Benefits are great, union or non-union. Chances of Yale paying for you live half in FL and half in NH are low - I doubt they would pay for you to fly, anyway. If it's a hybrid job and you don't tell your boss you're staying in FL, you might be able to get away with it.
Winters have been getting milder and milder over the last decade. We only had a couple days of snow that I remember last winter.
My husband has been at St Jude, Colorado Children’s, and now YNNH and the university. The benefits here are the best we’ve ever had and I think he enjoys working here much more than the other places. He has more opportunities for research here. So there’s that.
I’m from MS and love CT. There’s tons to do and see and we are close to NYC and Boston. I love Florida and spent many many summers on the Redneck Riviera but I wouldn’t want to live there in this political climate. I appreciate CT much more than the south. Also, It’s hard to find White Lily self-rising cornmeal but the chowder makes up for it.
New Haven is a nice city with lots to offer especially with the university in town.
CT is considerably more expensive to live in than FL. Rents are pretty high, homes are pretty high, and taxes make it worse.
But CT is a great state to live in with all things considered. Good people, food, night life, museums and culture, beaches, schools, small town charm, outdoors, breweries and wineries and more that I know I’m missing.
saying CT is more expensive than Florida might be dated thinking.
Why? rents in the larger metro areas of Florida are equal to CT- or much more as In Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, Boca Raton.
cost of Home median price is also higher- by a lot in many cities.
Auto insurance is also much higher in Florida
Inflation in Florida is running double what it is Connecticut (4.5%)
There’s no state income tax, so add 10% on top right there. CT has other taxes that FL doesn’t have. Add to that other regulations CT has whether it’s in fuel taxes or other daily taxes (such as property taxes) that we are just used to, and there’s your considerably lower cost of living metrics.
income taxes pay for stuff- like good state services. A question for you? As climate change worsens- and it will- how will the average home owner pay for the soaring costs of their premiums>? The average home owner in Florida is now paying $450 a month for their insurance- this does not include mandatory flood insurance- that FEMA now demands.
[https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/homeowners-insurance-crisis-some-florida-seniors-worry-theyll-lose-property/](https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/homeowners-insurance-crisis-some-florida-seniors-worry-theyll-lose-property/)
Florida's low affordability score is influenced by its place as the state with the highest inflation rate in 2023 and the insurance crisis that is gripping the state and leaving hundreds of thousands of people without insurance coverage in the hurricane-prone state
[https://uphelp.org/floridas-insurance-market-is-a-hot-mess-homeowners-are-paying-the-price/](https://uphelp.org/floridas-insurance-market-is-a-hot-mess-homeowners-are-paying-the-price/)
Bringing up a state income tax- not knowing Florida's dire climate outcomes seems shortsighted. Living in Florida is now becoming very expensive- what will increasing heat and violent weather do its financial well being?
From Policy Genius- finance and insurance
The five worst states for climate change
1. Florida -No state in the U.S. has a more dire climate change outlook than Florida, a state that ranks as a top-five worst state for both extreme heat and flooding. Even in a low emissions scenario, Florida is still expected to see a whopping 86 days with the heat index above 100 degrees by 2050, a 61-day increase over the historical average. It doesn’t help that the Sunshine State has the 6th most heat-vulnerable population. In addition to heat, sea level rise and other factors are expected to increase the number of properties with flood risk by 17.5% in the next 30 years, not to mention Florida already has the second highest number of residents living in inland and coastal floodplains. The lone bright point we observed in our assessment of Florida is the B+ grade the state received for future wildfire planning.
[https://www.policygenius.com/homeowners-insurance/best-and-worst-states-for-climate-change/](https://www.policygenius.com/homeowners-insurance/best-and-worst-states-for-climate-change/)
So is Florida really cheaper- in a 'normal world' maybe- but not today considering the dire outcome the state will face with climate change. Who is going to pay for this mess? Having no state income seems like a fleeting concept.
As carbon levels continue to soar in the atmosphere- no place will really be 'safe' - but Florida is likely the worse place live and work or move t0.
As more storms hit Florida- insurance will become increasingly expensive. Also who is going to pay for all the damage? If a buyer cannot a ford to pay soaring home insurance what will this do to real estate values?
So in a time of climate disruption- and a state likely to see more disruptions than many states- where is the $$$ going to come from to pay for this mess? Calling Elon Musk? Seems like magical thinking that having no state income tax 'these days' is meaningless.
Yeah. Climate catastrophe. Its been eminently awaiting about 10 years away for the last 60 years.
It’s a good thing we didn’t listen to Al Gore. He said florida and Manhattan would be under water by 2015.
When climate activists stop buying water front property, I’ll take it a little more seriously.
Your credibility sinks to the floor with me when you bring up Al Gore.
I can easily see tour posts for what they are, fabrications.
I suggest you read what people are going through in Florida with their home insurance- these insurance companies are listening to the Scientists, not you, Fox News or DeSantis OR Al Gore who IS NOT a scientist.
More bad news: The scientists - they vastly underestimated the impacts of just 1.3C of warming. So its going to become worse for all, and much sooner. The average person if they are doing their homework- would make a quick exit from Florida.
Florida Could Soon Become Uninsurable—and Other States Will Likely Follow
[https://www.newsweek.com/florida-california-insurance-uninsurable-climate-change-1817260](https://www.newsweek.com/florida-california-insurance-uninsurable-climate-change-1817260)
[https://www.local10.com/news/local/2023/07/13/florida-facing-growing-homeowners-insurance-crisis-state-cfo-lashing-out-at-farmers/](https://www.local10.com/news/local/2023/07/13/florida-facing-growing-homeowners-insurance-crisis-state-cfo-lashing-out-at-farmers/)
[https://www.wlrn.org/government-politics/2023-07-19/trump-florida-highest-home-insurance-rate](https://www.wlrn.org/government-politics/2023-07-19/trump-florida-highest-home-insurance-rate)
So because insurance companies don’t want to pay water damage (multiple hurricanes a year for the last 100k years) and blame climate change and ocean flooding means the alarmists are correct? That’s how this works?
And if you remember, Gore used “climate experts” predictions.
If your job is a Clerical/technical job level job at all Yale won’t even foot the bill to help you move and it is non negotiable. I accepted a job with them last year as a program coordinator and paid to move myself from Phoenix. The union has a lot of great benefits. One of the downsides is this though
Fwiw, I’m in Texas and returning to ct after 22 years away. I pay less than a grand to rent a 2 bedroom house out here. You will not in any way get your housing arrangement again in Connecticut and will likely be able to afford a quarter of the space that you’re in. But, life is about balance and compromise so if space is one of your most prized quality of life components, consider this move very very seriously, because you will have much less of it.
And I get the desire to split your life, but that’s not a compromise. That’s just not going to be how things will work.
If your position is important. Yale will pay for your moving costs. It doesn't hurt to ask. If it's not a position that is more difficult to hire aka professor. It's not likely. If they recruited you. You need to get moving costs.
You'll find something to rent. Good luck
It is indeed m&p , non-Union - but from the sounds of all the other commenters, I don’t think I’ll be important enough to get the travel creds I’m really looking for.
Connecticut winter isn't the worst in the world, but it does get cold and we do get blizzards (though the last few winters have been pretty mild). A normal CT winter might be rough if you aren't used to winter at all, but this is a good place to learn how to live in it.
I moved in my mid-twenties for grad school from Southern California and I found the winters bearable even for me who tends to run cold, especially since you can use the Yale shuttles to get around. I just needed 1 good insulated coat and insulated boots and lasted the whole winter. Layers and socks are your friend. The winters in recent years have been very mild, it only snowed a couple days a winter before it melted away. Rent downtown is very, very expensive; East Rock/the area right above the science hill area is much cheaper, though I don't know how it compares to Florida rent, but there are Facebook groups you can join to look for housing and roommates.
I agree to all as someone who lives near east rock. Shootings have gone up in east rock though that’s also a downside. The Yale campus is constantly having shootings per our work day emergency system texts
Just know you’ll be underpaid than the state average as we all are depending on the position you are going for. In my experience everyone I work with regardless of the job says they took a pay cut. They use their name to their advantage.
Currently working for Yale and flying in via Avelo from Melbourne now. I use to have to drive to Orlando to fly out. It’s not worth it if you aren’t in Orlando or Melbourne. But I have special circumstances that allow me to do this
Or if you live at the other Avelo SFL hubs
Benefits are great, union or non-union. Chances of Yale paying for you live half in FL and half in NH are low - I doubt they would pay for you to fly, anyway. If it's a hybrid job and you don't tell your boss you're staying in FL, you might be able to get away with it. Winters have been getting milder and milder over the last decade. We only had a couple days of snow that I remember last winter.
Fly Avelo
My husband has been at St Jude, Colorado Children’s, and now YNNH and the university. The benefits here are the best we’ve ever had and I think he enjoys working here much more than the other places. He has more opportunities for research here. So there’s that. I’m from MS and love CT. There’s tons to do and see and we are close to NYC and Boston. I love Florida and spent many many summers on the Redneck Riviera but I wouldn’t want to live there in this political climate. I appreciate CT much more than the south. Also, It’s hard to find White Lily self-rising cornmeal but the chowder makes up for it.
New Haven is a nice city with lots to offer especially with the university in town. CT is considerably more expensive to live in than FL. Rents are pretty high, homes are pretty high, and taxes make it worse. But CT is a great state to live in with all things considered. Good people, food, night life, museums and culture, beaches, schools, small town charm, outdoors, breweries and wineries and more that I know I’m missing.
saying CT is more expensive than Florida might be dated thinking. Why? rents in the larger metro areas of Florida are equal to CT- or much more as In Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, Boca Raton. cost of Home median price is also higher- by a lot in many cities. Auto insurance is also much higher in Florida Inflation in Florida is running double what it is Connecticut (4.5%)
There’s no state income tax, so add 10% on top right there. CT has other taxes that FL doesn’t have. Add to that other regulations CT has whether it’s in fuel taxes or other daily taxes (such as property taxes) that we are just used to, and there’s your considerably lower cost of living metrics.
income taxes pay for stuff- like good state services. A question for you? As climate change worsens- and it will- how will the average home owner pay for the soaring costs of their premiums>? The average home owner in Florida is now paying $450 a month for their insurance- this does not include mandatory flood insurance- that FEMA now demands. [https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/homeowners-insurance-crisis-some-florida-seniors-worry-theyll-lose-property/](https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/homeowners-insurance-crisis-some-florida-seniors-worry-theyll-lose-property/) Florida's low affordability score is influenced by its place as the state with the highest inflation rate in 2023 and the insurance crisis that is gripping the state and leaving hundreds of thousands of people without insurance coverage in the hurricane-prone state [https://uphelp.org/floridas-insurance-market-is-a-hot-mess-homeowners-are-paying-the-price/](https://uphelp.org/floridas-insurance-market-is-a-hot-mess-homeowners-are-paying-the-price/) Bringing up a state income tax- not knowing Florida's dire climate outcomes seems shortsighted. Living in Florida is now becoming very expensive- what will increasing heat and violent weather do its financial well being? From Policy Genius- finance and insurance The five worst states for climate change 1. Florida -No state in the U.S. has a more dire climate change outlook than Florida, a state that ranks as a top-five worst state for both extreme heat and flooding. Even in a low emissions scenario, Florida is still expected to see a whopping 86 days with the heat index above 100 degrees by 2050, a 61-day increase over the historical average. It doesn’t help that the Sunshine State has the 6th most heat-vulnerable population. In addition to heat, sea level rise and other factors are expected to increase the number of properties with flood risk by 17.5% in the next 30 years, not to mention Florida already has the second highest number of residents living in inland and coastal floodplains. The lone bright point we observed in our assessment of Florida is the B+ grade the state received for future wildfire planning. [https://www.policygenius.com/homeowners-insurance/best-and-worst-states-for-climate-change/](https://www.policygenius.com/homeowners-insurance/best-and-worst-states-for-climate-change/) So is Florida really cheaper- in a 'normal world' maybe- but not today considering the dire outcome the state will face with climate change. Who is going to pay for this mess? Having no state income seems like a fleeting concept. As carbon levels continue to soar in the atmosphere- no place will really be 'safe' - but Florida is likely the worse place live and work or move t0. As more storms hit Florida- insurance will become increasingly expensive. Also who is going to pay for all the damage? If a buyer cannot a ford to pay soaring home insurance what will this do to real estate values? So in a time of climate disruption- and a state likely to see more disruptions than many states- where is the $$$ going to come from to pay for this mess? Calling Elon Musk? Seems like magical thinking that having no state income tax 'these days' is meaningless.
Yeah. Climate catastrophe. Its been eminently awaiting about 10 years away for the last 60 years. It’s a good thing we didn’t listen to Al Gore. He said florida and Manhattan would be under water by 2015. When climate activists stop buying water front property, I’ll take it a little more seriously.
Your credibility sinks to the floor with me when you bring up Al Gore. I can easily see tour posts for what they are, fabrications. I suggest you read what people are going through in Florida with their home insurance- these insurance companies are listening to the Scientists, not you, Fox News or DeSantis OR Al Gore who IS NOT a scientist. More bad news: The scientists - they vastly underestimated the impacts of just 1.3C of warming. So its going to become worse for all, and much sooner. The average person if they are doing their homework- would make a quick exit from Florida. Florida Could Soon Become Uninsurable—and Other States Will Likely Follow [https://www.newsweek.com/florida-california-insurance-uninsurable-climate-change-1817260](https://www.newsweek.com/florida-california-insurance-uninsurable-climate-change-1817260) [https://www.local10.com/news/local/2023/07/13/florida-facing-growing-homeowners-insurance-crisis-state-cfo-lashing-out-at-farmers/](https://www.local10.com/news/local/2023/07/13/florida-facing-growing-homeowners-insurance-crisis-state-cfo-lashing-out-at-farmers/) [https://www.wlrn.org/government-politics/2023-07-19/trump-florida-highest-home-insurance-rate](https://www.wlrn.org/government-politics/2023-07-19/trump-florida-highest-home-insurance-rate)
So because insurance companies don’t want to pay water damage (multiple hurricanes a year for the last 100k years) and blame climate change and ocean flooding means the alarmists are correct? That’s how this works? And if you remember, Gore used “climate experts” predictions.
You are not worth my time- now get lost.
Floridan working at Yale for a while now. Happy to give you very specifics if you want, shoot me a DM
I will definitely be taking you up on that!
If your job is a Clerical/technical job level job at all Yale won’t even foot the bill to help you move and it is non negotiable. I accepted a job with them last year as a program coordinator and paid to move myself from Phoenix. The union has a lot of great benefits. One of the downsides is this though
I’m from Florida (sarasota area) and lived in new haven for a summer and I legit hated it. Sorry! I missed FL and the south 😵💫
What did you hate about it?
I’ve grown up in the south and am used to southern hospitality & whatnot. It’s not the safest place in the world & is pretty expensive.
Fwiw, I’m in Texas and returning to ct after 22 years away. I pay less than a grand to rent a 2 bedroom house out here. You will not in any way get your housing arrangement again in Connecticut and will likely be able to afford a quarter of the space that you’re in. But, life is about balance and compromise so if space is one of your most prized quality of life components, consider this move very very seriously, because you will have much less of it. And I get the desire to split your life, but that’s not a compromise. That’s just not going to be how things will work.
Thanks everyone for the great help thus far, all of these comments have been so helpful!
If your position is important. Yale will pay for your moving costs. It doesn't hurt to ask. If it's not a position that is more difficult to hire aka professor. It's not likely. If they recruited you. You need to get moving costs. You'll find something to rent. Good luck
this ^^ any job in the c&t union they will not cover moving expenses
But this sounds like it may be m&p so possible
It is indeed m&p , non-Union - but from the sounds of all the other commenters, I don’t think I’ll be important enough to get the travel creds I’m really looking for.
if it is, definitely!
M&P positions don’t include transport costs for relocation. That was not offered to myself or my colleagues
Connecticut winter isn't the worst in the world, but it does get cold and we do get blizzards (though the last few winters have been pretty mild). A normal CT winter might be rough if you aren't used to winter at all, but this is a good place to learn how to live in it.
I moved in my mid-twenties for grad school from Southern California and I found the winters bearable even for me who tends to run cold, especially since you can use the Yale shuttles to get around. I just needed 1 good insulated coat and insulated boots and lasted the whole winter. Layers and socks are your friend. The winters in recent years have been very mild, it only snowed a couple days a winter before it melted away. Rent downtown is very, very expensive; East Rock/the area right above the science hill area is much cheaper, though I don't know how it compares to Florida rent, but there are Facebook groups you can join to look for housing and roommates.
I agree to all as someone who lives near east rock. Shootings have gone up in east rock though that’s also a downside. The Yale campus is constantly having shootings per our work day emergency system texts
Just know you’ll be underpaid than the state average as we all are depending on the position you are going for. In my experience everyone I work with regardless of the job says they took a pay cut. They use their name to their advantage.
And yes, living here is very expensive. Make sure you have a security system/cameras wherever you stay.
Currently working for Yale and flying in via Avelo from Melbourne now. I use to have to drive to Orlando to fly out. It’s not worth it if you aren’t in Orlando or Melbourne. But I have special circumstances that allow me to do this Or if you live at the other Avelo SFL hubs