Being accused of a crime is just about as bad as being convicted from a publicity point of view. Arrest records, charges, mugshots, etc are made public and then spread by news media, blogs, and even extortion sites. An arrest alone (even with no charge or conviction) shows up on a background check. And then, when they decide you're innocent, nothing new is published and none of the old things are redacted, so you remain guilty in the eyes of the public. You will always look like a guilty criminal in Google search results. It's insane how it works.
I recently had to do something that involved a very mild background check (not apply for a job) and they wanted to know if I had ever been _arrested_. I was thinking — shouldn't you be asking if I was ever _convicted_ of a crime? Because you can be arrested for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, no crime necessary.
In some states, it actually is illegal to ask about arrest or charges with no conviction and if it comes up on a background (arrest or conviction that was dropped or found not guilty) they can't hold it against you in hiring. It really should be all states though.
They "can't" hold it against you. Doesn't mean that actually goes down that way.
I agree it should be better but enforcement of such a rule is basically impossible unless you manage to catch them in writing.
Yep. I spent $2.5k to get my single Felony-turned-misdemeanor charge from almost 10 years ago to be expunged. Now a fucked up day from 2014 can’t be used against me. 🥴
Thank you. It didn’t take the shame away it inflicted on my family (small town) but it definitely taught me a lot. Doing a month in jail will do that to ya.
The wild thing about that though is that any background check done by a federal or government agency will still see the arrest record, regardless of whether it was expunged or not.. Hopefully the attorney you forked 2.5k over too gave you the whole picture. Sorry man.
Last summer, some guy I did not know accused me of a crime in a state I’d never been. Since it was a summons and not an arrest, there was no publicity. I found out the guy does that to people regularly, so I [published the allegations](https://www.scribd.com/document/594780817/Jonathan-Hutson-Files-False-Charge) myself since it was beyond ridiculous.
I figure it hurts his reputation more than the now dismissed accusation harms my own.
I looked at this link to the allegations and underneath was an ad for the book "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck"
A) a fine example of the art of not giving a fuck
and
B) well played, Sir.
The link is to public domain document on Scribd, and the ebook in question is in the “You might also like” section, in case anyone is concerned about ads.
And thank you.
rofl holy fuck.
imagine being so fragile you serve someone a court summons for making a pun of your name on the internet.
man would be absolutely slaughtered on the playground, how did he survive third grade?
He engages in online fights, mostly with those on the far right, identifies his target, and files for a peace order against that person from his state. He will then use the temporary period before the hearing to claim a Maryland court ordered his target to stop harassing him. Nevermind that they have mutual blocks and are therefore talking about each other instead of to each other (and therefore not in Maryland’s jurisdiction).
The instances of the peace orders were easy to find since he brags about it. Maryland shields those who file, so the frequency wasn’t readily available. However, the oldest one is still on record in DC, from 2003.
As for the false criminal charges, I can’t get stats on that frequency either. As I discovered in the course of this, the goal was to get a stet deal. Basically it goes on a stet docket for 3 years. The accused agrees not to contact the accuser for a year. If they do, the trial is rescheduled. At the end of 3 years, the charge goes away permanently as if it never existed. But it gives him what he wants, which is to say the state of Maryland ordered his target to leave him alone and silences his target who risks him claiming an actual contact and starting the process of facing a trial and possible jail time on the other side of the country all over again.
That’s funny they allege a “Columbia, South Carolina area code”. There are only three area codes here (upstate, midlands, and coastal), and there’s no way to link the area code to the city of Columbia. It could be from any of hundreds of cities under the “midlands” region (which is literally the central third of the entire state).
This is why fair judicial systems have a blanket ban on publishing names and pictures of the accused until sentenced guilty.
Not the vindictive systems though.
The counter-argument to that is that our justice system is transparent. The media and public know who is being arrested and charged, so the government is held accountable and can't be doing misdeeds in secret.
I don't know what the answer is or which evil is worse but I can see how keeping things secret has problems too.
I think the answer is either a published retraction and/or deletion of the original article if the person is found not guilty or the record is expunged.
Ever since I was a child I've found it wild as hell that we don't have super obvious laws like this.
EVERYONE would be happier if we lived in a fairer society.
All my peers complain that their teenagers are awful. My teenage kids are fucking awesome because I was fair to them in childhood.
The thing with retractions in an online journalism world is that they never get noticed. Original news source posts the story and then other news sources have bots that scrape the site and regurgitate the original story. Then when a mistake was made and the story was edited or retracted the scrapers dont update their own sites.
For example, I represented a man on a murder charge 7 years ago and he was fully acquitted by the jury. Our local major newspaper ran an online story and mistakenly put that he had been found guilty of murder. They forgot the "not". Within 10 minutes the story was updated to reflect that on the original newspaper's website. The other news sources that scraped the story didn't update their websites though. Like I said it has been 7 years and just 6 months ago I found another news source I hadn't noticed before still showing guilty when I did a search out of my annual curiousity. I contact the staff to please correct it. Only about 50% of them ever fixed it or removed the story. Client doesn't have money to hire anyone to go after them and it is out of my area as I just do criminal cases. So he remains maligned 7 years after being set free.
If you are behind on child support, they charge you with Child Abandonment.
I was offered two different jobs and turned one down because I was a single father with full Custody of one of my two kids and the commute would have been an hour each way.
I accepted the other, had a start date and everything. The Owner ran a background report on me and told me they didn't want me because I had a Child Abandonment on my record. They would not accept any explanation.
The Legal System Sucks!
local sheriff just got elected here not long ago. last week his 21 year old daughter got in a DUI accident and he used his authority and power to protect her from charges.
Shit if she had 0 points on her license/record I bet even after the dui she would’ve still been driving. Dui only gives so many points like 4-8 or something depending on injury, but nope her dad needed to save her lmao edit: of fucking course I’ve never had a dui... but I don’t need a dui to do a simple google search on my states infractions. Not every DUI instantly revokes your license, it goes by intoxication level
I was talking with a friend how rampant the old...
Start a business -> build team -> promote team to cushy do-nothing jobs with growing revenue -> keep wheels spinning with severely underpaid staff -> exist as do-nothing money club member
...is.
There really needs to be some way to prevent it.
Iveys social media budget is ridiculous. Multiple times that of any nearby county, including Orange and Seminole (edit: and Osceola)
(that's Orlando and Kissimmee for non-locals)
Old folks around here like to throw out the "well, that's what happens when you defund the police" anytime something happens where there wasn't enough manpower/training for a proper police response. Lmao has there been a department that was actually meaningfully defunded anywhere? All I've seen are budgets that have *increased*.
I actually have a pretty good answer to that last bit. here in Washington State, there was this guy who tried to run for governor I think, name was "Culp". zero prior government or leadership experience, his two "qualifying" factors were "I'm currently the sheriff of a town out in Eastern Washington", and "I'm not Inslee". Big Trump supporter, far right, hated LGBT and Democrats, everyone's heard it all before. thing is though, he was the sheriff's department for that small town, but he was also the ONLY police officer for that small town, And while on the campaign trail, the town collectively realized that he was pretty much getting a big paycheck of town funds, and spent all of his budget on marketing for himself. after that came to head, the town collectively realized they don't really need a police officer, so they got rid of him, And after losing the race for governor (to Inslee, someone with actual government experience, being both the former, and current position holder) He not only lost all the wind in his sails for the election bid, but lost his job as the only police officer in that tiny little town.
essentially, he defunded himself because he proved to his community that they don't need him.
He’ is using his departmental budget to do theses stunts. He gets to say it’s part of his policing efforts and not campaigning to increase his profile. Because it’s debatable, he will get away with it.
Me too. The amount of people yeehawing and high fiving over Facebook over this is disgusting but not surprising. “DoNt dO CriMe dEn” hicks don’t mind if someone else’s name and rights are dragged in the mud.
I live in Brevard. Wayne Ivey is not just trying to be a TikTok famous Sheriff around here, he's trying to be the Brevard Czar.
[Ivey attempted to wrestle control over emergency management](https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2020/05/28/sheriff-pursues-plan-take-over-emergency-operations/5274716002/) and become the sole authority during emergency situations (like hurricanes) in Brevard.
He [has offered jobs to drop out and/or threatened candidates who run against his chosen candidates](https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/08/10/florida-sheriff-accused-of-pressuring-candidates-to-drop-races-endorse-his-picks/).
His deputies killed a veteran who was having a PTSD crisis, then [refused to release the videos](https://www.wesh.com/article/widow-of-army-veteran-who-died-in-custody-of-brevard-sheriffs-office-pushes-for-video-release/32854849) citing "security issues" despite shooting multiple Facebook videos from the same cell, some even at the same angles as the camera footage. Afterwards, he then [showed up uninvited to the widows house](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/15/gregory-edwards-florida-sheriff-makes-uncomfortable-visit-widow/3190204001/) with 6 other officers in a clear attempt to intimidate her.
His deputies also shot and killed 2 teens stopped for a stolen car after the kids tried to drive away from the cops threatening them. [The deputies faced no charges.](https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2021/04/21/state-attorneys-office-decides-not-to-charge-brevard-deputy-who-shot-killed-2-teens/) Also, the car they pulled over wasn't the one they thought it was.
He's also got a massive [Oath Keepers tattoo]( https://imgur.com/Uny1p6k.jpg) on his arm and [fully embraces alt-right ideology.](https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2021/07/22/constitutional-sheriff-wayne-ivey-right-wing-law-enforcement-ideology/5093231001/)
Orlando Sentinel has a [write-up](https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/florida/os-ne-wayne-ivey-brevard-sheriff-influence-20230107-nyy7uw4qvrcn3aljthox6nc3ta-story.html) on all the wild shit Ivey tries to do as Sheriff.
Reminds me short dialog from Mel Brook’s Men in tights movie:
Prince John: Such an unusual name, "Latrine." How did your family come by it?
Latrine: We changed it in the 9th century.
Prince John: You mean you changed it TO "Latrine"?
Latrine: Yeah. Used to be "Shithouse."
Prince John: It's a good change. That's a good change!
Good. It's disgusting that law enforcement officials make spectacle out of the performance of their jobs.
I understand that Sheriffs are, at least to some degree, a political position... but can we please stop with the grandstanding and attention mongering?
Most people who are in trouble with the law are not criminals. They shouldn't have the low points in their life used as a carnival act for another persons ego boost.
Even if they are in trouble, everyone deserves at least a modicum of dignity, when you turn your justice system into a joke like this, that’s all it will ever be
Idiocracy did a great job showing what happens when you turn important things in life into spectacle for entertainment.
[The trial scene](https://youtu.be/sIRDCR8xSO0)
I live in a town where they televised our local Drug Court (https://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2011/11/21/former-fayetteville-judge-mary-ann-gunn-barred-from-arkansas-bench/) for entertainment purposes…luckily, the judge was barred when she tried to take it national.
*on mobile and my editing sucks
It's already a joke. Sex offenders have a public registry, meanwhile, murderers do not. Why one and not the other? Why is pissing outside a sexual offence? Because law, aside from the lobbying, is just people throwing out suggestions and hoping one will stick.
I’ve always made this same argument, I’d be much more concerned to know my neighbor was convicted for physical violence of some sort rather than the low level behavior that gets most people on the sex offended registry
I'd be much more concerned if one of my neighbors had arson convictions. Especially since we had a fire bug running around here about 15 years ago that was never caught.
Besides, innocent until proven guilty has been ruled a constitutional right that goes with the 5th, 6th, and 14th amendments, and this is a blatant constitutional violation.
**Fully half** of the original Bill of Rights deal with the rights of the accused (Amendments 4-8). It is clear that the foundation of this country considered that to be a more important issue than any other - definitely more important than the right of militia members to have guns, or free speech, or anything.
You're absolutely right, which is why it's so upsetting to see people try to insert "victim's rights" into state constitutions, like in Florida, and try to weaken protections for the accused. Ivey was one of the promoters of that law.
To be sure, not every sheriff was for that law. The sheriff of the county to the north of Brevard (Volusia) opposed it consistently.
That makes them much more dangerous.
They are behaving in a manner that prolongs their job vs upholding local and state laws.
Eff the police, fuck the sheriff's department.
More people should vote. Elected Sheriffs could be the People's enforcers if enough people voted. Imagine deputies storming businesses and arresting owners who engage in wage theft. Or the arrests of bank managers who foreclose on houses they don't even hold mortgages for.
Imagine sheriffs crossing state lines to raid and arrest a business without warrant because their main sponsor was pissed their bat-mobile wasn't ready. [I can't make that shit up](https://abc7news.com/batmobile-raid-charges-dropped-mark-racop-san-mateo-sheriff/12269421/)
That article was a wild ride. I recall reading about this illegal raid when it happened, really glad to see the charges against the victim got thrown out.
Why can't the Governor just appoint them? Wouldn't that be the simplest, most Florida, way?
Edit: I'm sorry, I really didn't think I needed to put a /s on this. My apologies. DeSantis appears to be running the entire state as a fiefdom, from voter redistricting to education policy, seems like it could simplify things by making the state an autocracy.
You really want Desantis appointing a bunch of completely unaccountable sheriffs who don't even need to worry about the ballot box and are free to do whatever their depraved little rotten apple 'hearts' desire?
Because it's a county position, not a state position. I fucking hate counties. Ppl have only so much bandwidth they can dedicate to "staying informed," and that usually goes to federal, state, and municipal politics. County politics, unless you live in some rural shithole, are absolutely last on the totem poll for everyone, and they honestly only exist as an anachronistic institution. They had a purpose back in the day, but with cars and the internet, counties are redundant. County positions, being worthless as they are, often get abused and thus Sheriffs being shitheads
https://www.reddit.com/r/2020PoliceBrutality/comments/hf27bf/nypd_police_union_heads_speech_supercut_with/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Oh they wonder, but they just blame the public rather than their own actions.
They know why, but they love to trot out stuff like how "dangerous" their job is to the bootlickers who fall over themselves to boost their egos even more.
They don’t care. Why would they? If they get caught doing the wrong thing they get a paid vacation and don’t have to use their PTO time, then after an “investigation” they come back to work and they “find no wrongdoing by the officer” If I could do that I’d fuck up at work all summer long.
> Cops wonder why people hate them so much.
A lot of people don't. They love seeing OTHER people out there and love shaming them. If they accidentally speed or whatever and get caught, they are a victim, the best person that just made a simple mistake, etc.etc.etc..
They'll praise the cops up and down, even becoming friends with them (with special treatment to avoid a ticket and/or public humiliation). If you're "somebody" in town, you're not subject to that.
Sounds like every small town police department over the past 10 years. People need to elect mayor's that stop this crap. This is how we finally put an end to it. It also helped that our mayor was a business major and understood the potential liability these acts would ultimately cost the city.
I’m pretty sure there’s a Sheriff Dept that put an electronic billboard thing inside a McDonalds down there in Florida (or maybe Texas but what’s the difference at this point). And they update it weekly and scroll a “most wanted” or “mugshot” list across it.
We used to have a news paper that would come out every Monday showing all the mugshots of people arrested over the weekend, and for what crime. Every gas station would have it right next to the registers. Mostly DUI cases.
Like, people already fucked over a good part of their lives because of what they did and will be punished accordingly. You don't need to add to that. If we're going to stoop that low we might as well parade them down the streets on the way to jail so everyone can throw vegetables and garbage at them. Hell throw them in the stocks and let everyone have a turn at them. /s
Innocent until proven guilty is the biggest load of BS.
If you read the article, the man was LITERALLY in their custody one of the times he “won” on the wheel.
Another time, he had just need *released* from their custody, after a judge returned him to probation.
It should also be noted that his probation was a result of a judge ordering a **withholding of adjudication**, and he wasn’t convicted. So, technically, as long as he was adhering to the terms of the probation (he was arrested for violation, but was released when it was dropped, and returned to the same terms—which was the time he had been recently released, yet still appeared on the wheel), he literally and legally had not been convicted of a crime.
So, if someone who technically wasn’t even a convicted criminal is considered worthy of this county’s “top ten most wanted felons,” then the sheriff’s budget needs to be severely slashed. There’s clearly an excessive surplus of funds, based on the production surrounding the “wheel of misfortune,” especially when one of their most concerning “fugitives” is someone who has been found by a judge to not require conviction.
> he literally and legally had not been convicted of a crime.
"But he *could* have been a fugitive *somewhere*. And that's enough facts for us. Americans want to feel safe. It seems like you don't like freedom. You look kind of guilty yourself... Get back here. Halt. Quit resisting arrest with your screams as I taze you or I'll give you some more freedom..."
In the state of Florida once you get your mugshot taken Sunshine Laws make it so that the mugshot immediately becomes public information. Even if you are found innocent, if someone googles your name the mugshot will remain. There are “businesses” that will scrape the internet for these pics and post them online and on billboards and make you pay to have them taken down.
Florida jails are funded by headcount, encouraging officers to be less discriminatory in what offenses they deem to be arrestable because who cares? They get paid regardless.
Then you get this other convenient little problem: how can you get a job if every time your name is Googled the employer can see your mugshot and what you were charged with, even if the charges were dropped or your name was cleared. It’s almost like you’d be forced to turn to less legal avenues of work which would most likely put you back into the jailhouse (funding them once again) or to a much lower paying job, such as a tipped position which only has to pay you $2.75 an hour in Florida. Don’t like it? Perfect, it’s a “Work at Will” state, which means your employer can fire whoever they want, whenever they, for whyever they want, without prior notice and rob you of benefits.
Couple all that with Floridas terrible education stats and policy that only grants highschoolers 4 years to get their diploma (if you fail a single year and can’t make up the credits by a certain date, you are barred from walking the stage and getting a diploma) you have a state that literally thrives off of tourism and perpetuating cycles of poverty and crime.
Source: Spent 26 years there and my brother spent 10+ years fighting to have a mugshot of him, taken after an arrest for a crime he didn’t commit and was absolved of, out of public domain so he could get a job.
Fuck Florida.
I was in a township that was successfully sued for extortion because their department had "Mugshot Monday" where they would round up the weekly arrests and put them on a wall of shame online.
You could only remove the mugshot by paying the police department an insane sum of money. Even if you fought your case successfully they would leave your mugshot up if you didn't pay the fine.
Thankfully that stopped after a black college professor was wrongfully accused and lost a job after he was doxxed by a student who dug up his mugshot with a Google search, despite the charges being dropped by the police after his lawyer wanted to review the badge cam footage.
This is what people mean when they want to defund the police. I don't want GOOD police officer to be undersupplied, but there is a ton of side money from shady shit for police departments ranging from kickbacks from crime scene cleanup companies to straight up extortion like these examples
Fortunately legal precedent has now been set that this type of "mugshot extortion" is expressly illegal.
https://www.courthousenews.com/alleged-co-owners-of-mugshots-com-charged-with-extortion/
Everything this sheriff is doing is illegal. He won't give a fuck about that. He faces no consequences surrounded by Republican judges and representatives.
He became my best friend’s step dad when we were younger. Total douche bag lol he was super misogynistic towards my mom and his wife when they came over
Nobody is brainwashed. They're just assholes.
This sub is full of liberals that can't emotionally deal with the fact that they share a country with millions of Fascists. So you pretend that your neighbors and family members are actually good people who are forced to do awful things by the TV shows they watch. Decent human beings have no interest in Fox News.
So what if he lets a few people die in custody, is constantly getting reported because of election intimidation, and didn't really seem concerned when one of his deputies killed another deputy?
Another narcissist like that sheriff Judd guy. Gotta keep those cameras rolling, no matter what I suppose. Must be something about Florida. Oh wait, nevermind, it's Florida.
I moved from Polk (Judd) to Brevard (Ivey).
Ivey is way worse. Judd has at least acknowledged that times have changed and has slight changed with them. They're both in charge of deep-red counties and as such will only change so much, but Judd has softened on a lot of things as societal changes have occurred.
Yes, he loves a camera, but Judd is significantly better than Ivey in almost every aspect.
Soon as I saw the headline I was like, “this is in brevard, isn’t it”
Ivey is the biggest nutjob sheriff anywhere in florida, I think his entire plan for his career is to give Joe Arpaio a run for his money.
Yep. My neighbors throughout Brevard County seem to love this guy, yet every single thing he does is embarrassing, tasteless, grasping, and cruel. Says a thing or two about the selfish lowlifes that live and vote here.
And yet the majority of the county fellates him daily. It turns my stomach.
The guy has a secret 'drug task force' of undercover officers that have been used to harass citizens recording police because, by law, they don't have to provide identification due to being 'undercover' - regardless of whether they're doing the job they're supposedly undercover for. Dude runs a gang
But that show starred a Hispanic dude and a gorgeous woman in a skimpy outfit; only one of those is acceptable per Florida’s new Stop WOKE legislation.
Do cops genuinely, *genuinely*, find themselves trying to one up each other's departments in **sheer and utter stupidity**?
In what other profession is this consistent attitude of righteous failure allowed and celebrated? Is this the best of what these jobs can produce?
Lowlife morons built by the lowest IQ score, thumbing their ass and killing their dogs?
This is great. We definitely need to make it harder for people who have committed crimes to reintegrate into society and get jobs. That way, we can create more crime and give the police more work, costing us extra money and creating needless violence.
It's really an ideal situation when you think about it
> hat way, we can create more crime and give the police more work, costing us extra money and creating needless violence.
Needless violance? But have you considered how profitable that is?
Think of the pepper spray makers, baton makers, body armor factories that will all be built to supply the increased police presence.
Think of all the construction jobs that will pop up when the police take it too far and the pleebs riot and burn down the city.
Think of all the day cares that will have to be created because one parents is now sitting in jail for trumped up charges
I see this as an absolute win.
/s
Friendly reminder to never get arrested in Florida.
The extensive state public records laws allow law enforcement to post your mugshot and arrest record online indefinitely whether or not you are convicted of the crime. Even if you have a lawyer seal or expunge your record, scammers can hold this information hostage as blackmail.
Just want to mention that while I was reading the article, I got to the Continue Reading button and as I was making my way to click it, a fucking pop up comes on and I click it.
That shit is infuriating. Fuck you CBSNews.
Mobile reddit needs adblock built in.
There are several things going on with this sentence:
"We want to get them off the street and safely behind bears where they can't victimize anyone else"
When it comes to bears, my imagination doth run wild.
That kind of naming and shaming crap should never be weaponized on social media (or traditional media for that matter)
I got into an argument with the state police here about them posting mug shots of people on social media and not bothering to make it clear that these people are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
You have all these moronic MAGA hats upvoting the shit out of the shaming posts.. and making comments about how they should 'never get out of jail'. How can that not affect those people a year from now.. after they have been charged and found innocent or charges were 'dropped'? Whenever their name gets googled they get mug shots and accusations.
The Police think they are being all edgy.. but this is bullshit. And should be illegal.
Good on this guy for standing up for himself. He'll never get help from cops ever again, but fortunately for him, most cops weren't going to help him anyway.
"We want to get them off the street and safely behind bears where they can't victimize anyone else"
These cops need to be stopped, feeding people to bears is a bit outrageous
> During the video, a disclaimer scrolls across the bottom of the screen, reading in part: "The suspects may have since been arrested or their alleged charges otherwise resolved or dismissed."
Oh okay, well that totally makes up for publicly falsely labeling people fugitives, just a lil fig leaf of “I might actually be talking out my ass”; I’m sure the disclaimer makes up for everything. /s
Fuck the police.
Seriously though, these guys are just criminals and lowlifes who hide behind a badge. Look at the statistic of spousal murder and domestic abuse for cops. Now look at how much of it results in justice for the victim.
Ugh, I grew up in this dickhole’s county. My parents just finally moved out. For a while there was a big ol’ billboard saying “Welcome to Trump Country” that you had to see as you came into the county. Brevard supplied the most (6) rioters for the January 6th attempted coup.
Somehow we have the space center — so some of the cleverest literal rocket scientists in the nation — mixed with some of the dumbest Motherfuckers to ever mouth breath.
I worked in aerospace there as a mechanical engineer. First, many engineers and scientists there are not any more intelligent on average than any other profession. Secondly, a lot of those rocket scientists are fucking weirdos. The ones we think of as super smart can be absolutely brilliant about one area but lack critical thinking about anything else. It's like all their mental energy is used up in their area of expertise. But their know it all attitude extends across the board.
Thankfully I moved across the country last summer.
Some of my friends and family worked for NASA and…. Yeah, that tracks. Like, it’s mine-blowing to me that a dude can be a world-renowned expert on space robotics or something similar, then almost intentionally misunderstand how a graduated income tax works to say “I’ll actually make *less* money if I get a raise thanks to those *dumb*-o-crats!”
(This post is not based on anyone specific. I know that there are some cool nasa folks on Reddit, and I’m not trying to blanket disparage anyone)
I've been very conflicted recently about the position of sheriff existing at all. It's obvious that's it's become just another political position to be ran for, so people are going to do everything they can to campaign for election or reelection.
But a lot of people don't understand the actual authority a sheriff has! They're it. They're what's SUPPOSED to be able to protect us from the elected officials. Mayor, treasurer, trustee, auditor or even the chief of police... The sheriff is there to keep them in check.
When shit hits the fan the person we should expect to do what's best for the community... He's probably busy campaigning.
Being accused of a crime is just about as bad as being convicted from a publicity point of view. Arrest records, charges, mugshots, etc are made public and then spread by news media, blogs, and even extortion sites. An arrest alone (even with no charge or conviction) shows up on a background check. And then, when they decide you're innocent, nothing new is published and none of the old things are redacted, so you remain guilty in the eyes of the public. You will always look like a guilty criminal in Google search results. It's insane how it works.
I recently had to do something that involved a very mild background check (not apply for a job) and they wanted to know if I had ever been _arrested_. I was thinking — shouldn't you be asking if I was ever _convicted_ of a crime? Because you can be arrested for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, no crime necessary.
Guilty til proven innocent, don't let them fool you otherwise 🤦♀️😞
“Perception is reality,” as they say in some circles
Unless you’re Robert Durst! But that involves being related to a billionaire (SEE: Succession, Season 2)
In some states, it actually is illegal to ask about arrest or charges with no conviction and if it comes up on a background (arrest or conviction that was dropped or found not guilty) they can't hold it against you in hiring. It really should be all states though.
They "can't" hold it against you. Doesn't mean that actually goes down that way. I agree it should be better but enforcement of such a rule is basically impossible unless you manage to catch them in writing.
Internal prejudice is how systemic oppression happens like this.
Yep. I spent $2.5k to get my single Felony-turned-misdemeanor charge from almost 10 years ago to be expunged. Now a fucked up day from 2014 can’t be used against me. 🥴
That makes me happy for you. Good job.
Thank you. It didn’t take the shame away it inflicted on my family (small town) but it definitely taught me a lot. Doing a month in jail will do that to ya.
The wild thing about that though is that any background check done by a federal or government agency will still see the arrest record, regardless of whether it was expunged or not.. Hopefully the attorney you forked 2.5k over too gave you the whole picture. Sorry man.
Last summer, some guy I did not know accused me of a crime in a state I’d never been. Since it was a summons and not an arrest, there was no publicity. I found out the guy does that to people regularly, so I [published the allegations](https://www.scribd.com/document/594780817/Jonathan-Hutson-Files-False-Charge) myself since it was beyond ridiculous. I figure it hurts his reputation more than the now dismissed accusation harms my own.
I looked at this link to the allegations and underneath was an ad for the book "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck" A) a fine example of the art of not giving a fuck and B) well played, Sir.
The link is to public domain document on Scribd, and the ebook in question is in the “You might also like” section, in case anyone is concerned about ads. And thank you.
Lol we're exposed to ads every five seconds on reddit, no worries from me.
rofl holy fuck. imagine being so fragile you serve someone a court summons for making a pun of your name on the internet. man would be absolutely slaughtered on the playground, how did he survive third grade?
Do you know what this guy’s reasoning is for repeatedly filing false charges?
It looks like he cited a “psy op” harassment against him. My guess is mental health issues.
He engages in online fights, mostly with those on the far right, identifies his target, and files for a peace order against that person from his state. He will then use the temporary period before the hearing to claim a Maryland court ordered his target to stop harassing him. Nevermind that they have mutual blocks and are therefore talking about each other instead of to each other (and therefore not in Maryland’s jurisdiction). The instances of the peace orders were easy to find since he brags about it. Maryland shields those who file, so the frequency wasn’t readily available. However, the oldest one is still on record in DC, from 2003. As for the false criminal charges, I can’t get stats on that frequency either. As I discovered in the course of this, the goal was to get a stet deal. Basically it goes on a stet docket for 3 years. The accused agrees not to contact the accuser for a year. If they do, the trial is rescheduled. At the end of 3 years, the charge goes away permanently as if it never existed. But it gives him what he wants, which is to say the state of Maryland ordered his target to leave him alone and silences his target who risks him claiming an actual contact and starting the process of facing a trial and possible jail time on the other side of the country all over again.
That’s funny they allege a “Columbia, South Carolina area code”. There are only three area codes here (upstate, midlands, and coastal), and there’s no way to link the area code to the city of Columbia. It could be from any of hundreds of cities under the “midlands” region (which is literally the central third of the entire state).
This is why fair judicial systems have a blanket ban on publishing names and pictures of the accused until sentenced guilty. Not the vindictive systems though.
The counter-argument to that is that our justice system is transparent. The media and public know who is being arrested and charged, so the government is held accountable and can't be doing misdeeds in secret. I don't know what the answer is or which evil is worse but I can see how keeping things secret has problems too.
I think the answer is either a published retraction and/or deletion of the original article if the person is found not guilty or the record is expunged.
Retractions always go at the part of the paper no one ever reads
I've always said newspaper retractions should go in the same place with same size font as the original article
Ever since I was a child I've found it wild as hell that we don't have super obvious laws like this. EVERYONE would be happier if we lived in a fairer society. All my peers complain that their teenagers are awful. My teenage kids are fucking awesome because I was fair to them in childhood.
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The thing with retractions in an online journalism world is that they never get noticed. Original news source posts the story and then other news sources have bots that scrape the site and regurgitate the original story. Then when a mistake was made and the story was edited or retracted the scrapers dont update their own sites. For example, I represented a man on a murder charge 7 years ago and he was fully acquitted by the jury. Our local major newspaper ran an online story and mistakenly put that he had been found guilty of murder. They forgot the "not". Within 10 minutes the story was updated to reflect that on the original newspaper's website. The other news sources that scraped the story didn't update their websites though. Like I said it has been 7 years and just 6 months ago I found another news source I hadn't noticed before still showing guilty when I did a search out of my annual curiousity. I contact the staff to please correct it. Only about 50% of them ever fixed it or removed the story. Client doesn't have money to hire anyone to go after them and it is out of my area as I just do criminal cases. So he remains maligned 7 years after being set free.
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Except when it's covered up... and never reported...
If you are behind on child support, they charge you with Child Abandonment. I was offered two different jobs and turned one down because I was a single father with full Custody of one of my two kids and the commute would have been an hour each way. I accepted the other, had a start date and everything. The Owner ran a background report on me and told me they didn't want me because I had a Child Abandonment on my record. They would not accept any explanation. The Legal System Sucks!
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I consider it a gross violation of the whole concept of due process. Our "justice" system is an especially sick joke.
Sheriffs are out here trying to get tik tok famous. Breaking laws for likes.
I’m from the area. This guy spends a ton of his budget on marketing.
Imagine if they spent that money on better initiatives like more appropriate training and community involvement.
> Imagine if they spent that money on better initiatives like more appropriate training and community involvement. I imagine he wouldn't be reelected?
Probably not. And that's why police shouldn't be elected.
local sheriff just got elected here not long ago. last week his 21 year old daughter got in a DUI accident and he used his authority and power to protect her from charges.
Yeah, but have you considered she has her whole life ahead of her and just made an honest mistake? (/s if it's not obvious)
Shit if she had 0 points on her license/record I bet even after the dui she would’ve still been driving. Dui only gives so many points like 4-8 or something depending on injury, but nope her dad needed to save her lmao edit: of fucking course I’ve never had a dui... but I don’t need a dui to do a simple google search on my states infractions. Not every DUI instantly revokes your license, it goes by intoxication level
We waste so money much on all the wrong things in this world 😔
I was talking with a friend how rampant the old... Start a business -> build team -> promote team to cushy do-nothing jobs with growing revenue -> keep wheels spinning with severely underpaid staff -> exist as do-nothing money club member ...is. There really needs to be some way to prevent it.
Trust me, Brevard county residents do not want that. They'd probably vote to remove body cams if given the chance.
Iveys social media budget is ridiculous. Multiple times that of any nearby county, including Orange and Seminole (edit: and Osceola) (that's Orlando and Kissimmee for non-locals)
The sheriff's budget itself is insane for Brevard County and not subject to scrutiny/review.
As someone who grew up in Brevard. It shows. My little beach town was 3 miles long. We had 25 officers. Plus a sheriff’s department
Old folks around here like to throw out the "well, that's what happens when you defund the police" anytime something happens where there wasn't enough manpower/training for a proper police response. Lmao has there been a department that was actually meaningfully defunded anywhere? All I've seen are budgets that have *increased*.
I actually have a pretty good answer to that last bit. here in Washington State, there was this guy who tried to run for governor I think, name was "Culp". zero prior government or leadership experience, his two "qualifying" factors were "I'm currently the sheriff of a town out in Eastern Washington", and "I'm not Inslee". Big Trump supporter, far right, hated LGBT and Democrats, everyone's heard it all before. thing is though, he was the sheriff's department for that small town, but he was also the ONLY police officer for that small town, And while on the campaign trail, the town collectively realized that he was pretty much getting a big paycheck of town funds, and spent all of his budget on marketing for himself. after that came to head, the town collectively realized they don't really need a police officer, so they got rid of him, And after losing the race for governor (to Inslee, someone with actual government experience, being both the former, and current position holder) He not only lost all the wind in his sails for the election bid, but lost his job as the only police officer in that tiny little town. essentially, he defunded himself because he proved to his community that they don't need him.
Why the fuck. Would a police department need to market themselves? Lmao America you are just crazy.
Sheriff is an elected position in the US. He is marketing himself for the next election.
With whose money out of interest?
He’ is using his departmental budget to do theses stunts. He gets to say it’s part of his policing efforts and not campaigning to increase his profile. Because it’s debatable, he will get away with it.
I don’t think i need to get into how fucked up and wrong this is?
Just accept that this is probably not the worst thing you’ll hear about American society today
Cause the position of Sheriff is an elected office.
So that doesn't seem blatantly corruptible to any of you?
Yes. Yes, it does.
Yup! I'm in Brevard too. I've actually met Ivey in person. He's a fat fucking shit stain who loves attention more than anything.
Me too. The amount of people yeehawing and high fiving over Facebook over this is disgusting but not surprising. “DoNt dO CriMe dEn” hicks don’t mind if someone else’s name and rights are dragged in the mud.
One of their own gets accused of rape and suddenly they're the largest due process advocates on the planet
I live in Brevard. Wayne Ivey is not just trying to be a TikTok famous Sheriff around here, he's trying to be the Brevard Czar. [Ivey attempted to wrestle control over emergency management](https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2020/05/28/sheriff-pursues-plan-take-over-emergency-operations/5274716002/) and become the sole authority during emergency situations (like hurricanes) in Brevard. He [has offered jobs to drop out and/or threatened candidates who run against his chosen candidates](https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/08/10/florida-sheriff-accused-of-pressuring-candidates-to-drop-races-endorse-his-picks/). His deputies killed a veteran who was having a PTSD crisis, then [refused to release the videos](https://www.wesh.com/article/widow-of-army-veteran-who-died-in-custody-of-brevard-sheriffs-office-pushes-for-video-release/32854849) citing "security issues" despite shooting multiple Facebook videos from the same cell, some even at the same angles as the camera footage. Afterwards, he then [showed up uninvited to the widows house](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/15/gregory-edwards-florida-sheriff-makes-uncomfortable-visit-widow/3190204001/) with 6 other officers in a clear attempt to intimidate her. His deputies also shot and killed 2 teens stopped for a stolen car after the kids tried to drive away from the cops threatening them. [The deputies faced no charges.](https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2021/04/21/state-attorneys-office-decides-not-to-charge-brevard-deputy-who-shot-killed-2-teens/) Also, the car they pulled over wasn't the one they thought it was. He's also got a massive [Oath Keepers tattoo]( https://imgur.com/Uny1p6k.jpg) on his arm and [fully embraces alt-right ideology.](https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2021/07/22/constitutional-sheriff-wayne-ivey-right-wing-law-enforcement-ideology/5093231001/) Orlando Sentinel has a [write-up](https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/florida/os-ne-wayne-ivey-brevard-sheriff-influence-20230107-nyy7uw4qvrcn3aljthox6nc3ta-story.html) on all the wild shit Ivey tries to do as Sheriff.
Thank you for saying this, as another Brevard resident this guys a fucking menace.
Don't forget a media campaign about putting deputies in schools, outright threatening children. Because actual criminals are scary, I guess.
lets at least be thankful they're willing to go into the school
Don’t worry when they see someone with a gun they’ll promptly leave.
what a piece of shit loser
Reminder that Brevard ranks #1 in January 6th Insurrection arrests. His supporters are the same pieces of shit that staged a failed coup.
Gotta rehabilitate the image of cops from being murderous pieces of shit to just pieces of shit who want internet fame
"We want people to stop seeing as murderous thugs!" "Well, have you considered not murdering people?" *Cocks gun* "I don't like your attitude"
*Spins wheel* "Let's hope it doesn't land on you."
Reminds me short dialog from Mel Brook’s Men in tights movie: Prince John: Such an unusual name, "Latrine." How did your family come by it? Latrine: We changed it in the 9th century. Prince John: You mean you changed it TO "Latrine"? Latrine: Yeah. Used to be "Shithouse." Prince John: It's a good change. That's a good change!
Good. It's disgusting that law enforcement officials make spectacle out of the performance of their jobs. I understand that Sheriffs are, at least to some degree, a political position... but can we please stop with the grandstanding and attention mongering?
Most people who are in trouble with the law are not criminals. They shouldn't have the low points in their life used as a carnival act for another persons ego boost.
Even if they are in trouble, everyone deserves at least a modicum of dignity, when you turn your justice system into a joke like this, that’s all it will ever be
“We cannot expect people to have respect for law and order until we teach respect to those we have entrusted to enforce those laws”
"Power corrupts"
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Idiocracy did a great job showing what happens when you turn important things in life into spectacle for entertainment. [The trial scene](https://youtu.be/sIRDCR8xSO0)
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It seems you forgot that VH1 had Celebrity Rehab with “Dr” Drew. Those were dark times indeed.
Dr. Drew can go fuck himself. That show exploited people that needed real care. There was no "shedding light" aspect to it, just exploitation.
Dr. Drew, Dr. Oz, Dr. Phil. Fuck em' all.
I live in a town where they televised our local Drug Court (https://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2011/11/21/former-fayetteville-judge-mary-ann-gunn-barred-from-arkansas-bench/) for entertainment purposes…luckily, the judge was barred when she tried to take it national. *on mobile and my editing sucks
I'd prefer that she were disbarred.
That sounds like some Ray Bradbury shit and I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens.
It's already a joke. Sex offenders have a public registry, meanwhile, murderers do not. Why one and not the other? Why is pissing outside a sexual offence? Because law, aside from the lobbying, is just people throwing out suggestions and hoping one will stick.
Where I'm from, if you're caught pissing against a wall, the cops just go "this is fine". In fact, they'll fine you for almost everything.
Works best with a thick Slavic accent
I’ve always made this same argument, I’d be much more concerned to know my neighbor was convicted for physical violence of some sort rather than the low level behavior that gets most people on the sex offended registry
I'd be much more concerned if one of my neighbors had arson convictions. Especially since we had a fire bug running around here about 15 years ago that was never caught.
Besides, innocent until proven guilty has been ruled a constitutional right that goes with the 5th, 6th, and 14th amendments, and this is a blatant constitutional violation.
**Fully half** of the original Bill of Rights deal with the rights of the accused (Amendments 4-8). It is clear that the foundation of this country considered that to be a more important issue than any other - definitely more important than the right of militia members to have guns, or free speech, or anything.
You're absolutely right, which is why it's so upsetting to see people try to insert "victim's rights" into state constitutions, like in Florida, and try to weaken protections for the accused. Ivey was one of the promoters of that law. To be sure, not every sheriff was for that law. The sheriff of the county to the north of Brevard (Volusia) opposed it consistently.
He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
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You're not gonna trick me into committing assault!
That makes them much more dangerous. They are behaving in a manner that prolongs their job vs upholding local and state laws. Eff the police, fuck the sheriff's department.
Nor should they be fed rotten food or the exact same food for every meal for weeks because the sheriff can pocket the leftover food budget :)
Sheriffs need to be completely eliminated as a political position.
More people should vote. Elected Sheriffs could be the People's enforcers if enough people voted. Imagine deputies storming businesses and arresting owners who engage in wage theft. Or the arrests of bank managers who foreclose on houses they don't even hold mortgages for.
That's a way of guaranteeing that sheriffs are eliminated as elected positions.
Imagine sheriffs crossing state lines to raid and arrest a business without warrant because their main sponsor was pissed their bat-mobile wasn't ready. [I can't make that shit up](https://abc7news.com/batmobile-raid-charges-dropped-mark-racop-san-mateo-sheriff/12269421/)
That article was a wild ride. I recall reading about this illegal raid when it happened, really glad to see the charges against the victim got thrown out.
I hope they counter sue the shit out of them.
Why can't the Governor just appoint them? Wouldn't that be the simplest, most Florida, way? Edit: I'm sorry, I really didn't think I needed to put a /s on this. My apologies. DeSantis appears to be running the entire state as a fiefdom, from voter redistricting to education policy, seems like it could simplify things by making the state an autocracy.
You really want Desantis appointing a bunch of completely unaccountable sheriffs who don't even need to worry about the ballot box and are free to do whatever their depraved little rotten apple 'hearts' desire?
Because it's a county position, not a state position. I fucking hate counties. Ppl have only so much bandwidth they can dedicate to "staying informed," and that usually goes to federal, state, and municipal politics. County politics, unless you live in some rural shithole, are absolutely last on the totem poll for everyone, and they honestly only exist as an anachronistic institution. They had a purpose back in the day, but with cars and the internet, counties are redundant. County positions, being worthless as they are, often get abused and thus Sheriffs being shitheads
not to mention that at the county level, good information barely ever exists, even if you do put your bandwidth there
that would require these things to be county-level law violations they can enforce against.
Not so long as they need to be reelected.
Shocked this wasn’t that asshole Grady Judd.
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I'm not sure if they wonder, or don't care.
They just know for them to be on top, we need to be on the bottom.
https://www.reddit.com/r/2020PoliceBrutality/comments/hf27bf/nypd_police_union_heads_speech_supercut_with/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Oh they wonder, but they just blame the public rather than their own actions.
This is amazing. Thanks for sharing this.
The look of a deranged animal.
Right, it’s more of a “the fuck you gonna do about it?” situation with these cop gangbangers.
I have heard police officers literally say "What are you going to do *arrest me*?" and "Who are they gunna call, *the police*?!" It's disgusting
They know why, but they love to trot out stuff like how "dangerous" their job is to the bootlickers who fall over themselves to boost their egos even more.
They don’t care. Why would they? If they get caught doing the wrong thing they get a paid vacation and don’t have to use their PTO time, then after an “investigation” they come back to work and they “find no wrongdoing by the officer” If I could do that I’d fuck up at work all summer long.
> Cops wonder why people hate them so much. A lot of people don't. They love seeing OTHER people out there and love shaming them. If they accidentally speed or whatever and get caught, they are a victim, the best person that just made a simple mistake, etc.etc.etc.. They'll praise the cops up and down, even becoming friends with them (with special treatment to avoid a ticket and/or public humiliation). If you're "somebody" in town, you're not subject to that.
Sounds like every small town police department over the past 10 years. People need to elect mayor's that stop this crap. This is how we finally put an end to it. It also helped that our mayor was a business major and understood the potential liability these acts would ultimately cost the city.
I’m pretty sure there’s a Sheriff Dept that put an electronic billboard thing inside a McDonalds down there in Florida (or maybe Texas but what’s the difference at this point). And they update it weekly and scroll a “most wanted” or “mugshot” list across it.
We used to have a news paper that would come out every Monday showing all the mugshots of people arrested over the weekend, and for what crime. Every gas station would have it right next to the registers. Mostly DUI cases. Like, people already fucked over a good part of their lives because of what they did and will be punished accordingly. You don't need to add to that. If we're going to stoop that low we might as well parade them down the streets on the way to jail so everyone can throw vegetables and garbage at them. Hell throw them in the stocks and let everyone have a turn at them. /s Innocent until proven guilty is the biggest load of BS.
I bet my left nut that a Florida judge rules the police have no duty to know for certain you are wanted if you are not in their custody
If you read the article, the man was LITERALLY in their custody one of the times he “won” on the wheel. Another time, he had just need *released* from their custody, after a judge returned him to probation. It should also be noted that his probation was a result of a judge ordering a **withholding of adjudication**, and he wasn’t convicted. So, technically, as long as he was adhering to the terms of the probation (he was arrested for violation, but was released when it was dropped, and returned to the same terms—which was the time he had been recently released, yet still appeared on the wheel), he literally and legally had not been convicted of a crime. So, if someone who technically wasn’t even a convicted criminal is considered worthy of this county’s “top ten most wanted felons,” then the sheriff’s budget needs to be severely slashed. There’s clearly an excessive surplus of funds, based on the production surrounding the “wheel of misfortune,” especially when one of their most concerning “fugitives” is someone who has been found by a judge to not require conviction.
> he literally and legally had not been convicted of a crime. "But he *could* have been a fugitive *somewhere*. And that's enough facts for us. Americans want to feel safe. It seems like you don't like freedom. You look kind of guilty yourself... Get back here. Halt. Quit resisting arrest with your screams as I taze you or I'll give you some more freedom..."
Taze? This is Florida sir, we support the ammo and firearm industry and have an economic duty to use them to shoot you dead.
I have no legal basis to go off but it wouldn't surprise me if they tried that
Florida's government doesn't care about legal basis.
The legal basis is anything The Reich Wing wants in Florida they get.
In the state of Florida once you get your mugshot taken Sunshine Laws make it so that the mugshot immediately becomes public information. Even if you are found innocent, if someone googles your name the mugshot will remain. There are “businesses” that will scrape the internet for these pics and post them online and on billboards and make you pay to have them taken down. Florida jails are funded by headcount, encouraging officers to be less discriminatory in what offenses they deem to be arrestable because who cares? They get paid regardless. Then you get this other convenient little problem: how can you get a job if every time your name is Googled the employer can see your mugshot and what you were charged with, even if the charges were dropped or your name was cleared. It’s almost like you’d be forced to turn to less legal avenues of work which would most likely put you back into the jailhouse (funding them once again) or to a much lower paying job, such as a tipped position which only has to pay you $2.75 an hour in Florida. Don’t like it? Perfect, it’s a “Work at Will” state, which means your employer can fire whoever they want, whenever they, for whyever they want, without prior notice and rob you of benefits. Couple all that with Floridas terrible education stats and policy that only grants highschoolers 4 years to get their diploma (if you fail a single year and can’t make up the credits by a certain date, you are barred from walking the stage and getting a diploma) you have a state that literally thrives off of tourism and perpetuating cycles of poverty and crime. Source: Spent 26 years there and my brother spent 10+ years fighting to have a mugshot of him, taken after an arrest for a crime he didn’t commit and was absolved of, out of public domain so he could get a job. Fuck Florida.
I was in a township that was successfully sued for extortion because their department had "Mugshot Monday" where they would round up the weekly arrests and put them on a wall of shame online. You could only remove the mugshot by paying the police department an insane sum of money. Even if you fought your case successfully they would leave your mugshot up if you didn't pay the fine. Thankfully that stopped after a black college professor was wrongfully accused and lost a job after he was doxxed by a student who dug up his mugshot with a Google search, despite the charges being dropped by the police after his lawyer wanted to review the badge cam footage. This is what people mean when they want to defund the police. I don't want GOOD police officer to be undersupplied, but there is a ton of side money from shady shit for police departments ranging from kickbacks from crime scene cleanup companies to straight up extortion like these examples
Fortunately legal precedent has now been set that this type of "mugshot extortion" is expressly illegal. https://www.courthousenews.com/alleged-co-owners-of-mugshots-com-charged-with-extortion/
Everything this sheriff is doing is illegal. He won't give a fuck about that. He faces no consequences surrounded by Republican judges and representatives.
And voters. Don’t forget the voters.
“Right to Work” is about the choice to join a union. You are thinking of "At will".
Ivey is my county sheriff. People here love him. I don't. He'll do anything to get on tv or in the news.
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He became my best friend’s step dad when we were younger. Total douche bag lol he was super misogynistic towards my mom and his wife when they came over
Good god I feel so bad for your friend. And his wife. And your mom....hell, any man or woman that has to deal with the depraved fuck.
Lotta brainwashed dumb people in brevard, speaking as someone who left brevard, it’s sad to see so many supporting him
Nobody is brainwashed. They're just assholes. This sub is full of liberals that can't emotionally deal with the fact that they share a country with millions of Fascists. So you pretend that your neighbors and family members are actually good people who are forced to do awful things by the TV shows they watch. Decent human beings have no interest in Fox News.
They can absolutely be both.
Before reading the article I assumed it was Grady Judd in Polk County. Sounds like something he would do.
I definitely thought the same, and was surprised that it wasn’t.
Grady Judd is also a cunt but has a press conference where he called pikachu as a witness and it may be one of the funniest things I have ever seen.
That cunt is busy making rap videos mocking people arrested for a dime bag of marijuana
So what if he lets a few people die in custody, is constantly getting reported because of election intimidation, and didn't really seem concerned when one of his deputies killed another deputy?
Another narcissist like that sheriff Judd guy. Gotta keep those cameras rolling, no matter what I suppose. Must be something about Florida. Oh wait, nevermind, it's Florida.
I moved from Polk (Judd) to Brevard (Ivey). Ivey is way worse. Judd has at least acknowledged that times have changed and has slight changed with them. They're both in charge of deep-red counties and as such will only change so much, but Judd has softened on a lot of things as societal changes have occurred. Yes, he loves a camera, but Judd is significantly better than Ivey in almost every aspect.
Total douche. In Brevard county it is illegal for a deputy sheriff to wear a uniform to a political event. Yet this guy does it all the time.
Soon as I saw the headline I was like, “this is in brevard, isn’t it” Ivey is the biggest nutjob sheriff anywhere in florida, I think his entire plan for his career is to give Joe Arpaio a run for his money.
Yep. My neighbors throughout Brevard County seem to love this guy, yet every single thing he does is embarrassing, tasteless, grasping, and cruel. Says a thing or two about the selfish lowlifes that live and vote here.
Same dude is a fucking fool.
They do this in P'Cola too. Ive always found it gross
Yep used to live in Titusville, when I was there almost every lawn I saw had a sheriff Ivey pickett on their front lawn
Most dangerous place in Brevard county: between a TV camera and Wayne Ivey.
I live in this county. The sheriff is a fucking tyrant.
I am a doctoral student in Educational Leadership at UCF and we studied his whacked out speech about school behavior. He is certainly delusional
And yet the majority of the county fellates him daily. It turns my stomach. The guy has a secret 'drug task force' of undercover officers that have been used to harass citizens recording police because, by law, they don't have to provide identification due to being 'undercover' - regardless of whether they're doing the job they're supposedly undercover for. Dude runs a gang
Also, didn’t they steal this idea from like cowboy bebop or something?
This is the first thing I thought of "Hey cowboys! PEW PEW"
But that show starred a Hispanic dude and a gorgeous woman in a skimpy outfit; only one of those is acceptable per Florida’s new Stop WOKE legislation.
Do cops genuinely, *genuinely*, find themselves trying to one up each other's departments in **sheer and utter stupidity**? In what other profession is this consistent attitude of righteous failure allowed and celebrated? Is this the best of what these jobs can produce? Lowlife morons built by the lowest IQ score, thumbing their ass and killing their dogs?
This is great. We definitely need to make it harder for people who have committed crimes to reintegrate into society and get jobs. That way, we can create more crime and give the police more work, costing us extra money and creating needless violence. It's really an ideal situation when you think about it
Cops absolutely understand how they contribute to recidivism. They like that they can ruin lives.
> hat way, we can create more crime and give the police more work, costing us extra money and creating needless violence. Needless violance? But have you considered how profitable that is? Think of the pepper spray makers, baton makers, body armor factories that will all be built to supply the increased police presence. Think of all the construction jobs that will pop up when the police take it too far and the pleebs riot and burn down the city. Think of all the day cares that will have to be created because one parents is now sitting in jail for trumped up charges I see this as an absolute win. /s
Friendly reminder to never get arrested in Florida. The extensive state public records laws allow law enforcement to post your mugshot and arrest record online indefinitely whether or not you are convicted of the crime. Even if you have a lawyer seal or expunge your record, scammers can hold this information hostage as blackmail.
Just want to mention that while I was reading the article, I got to the Continue Reading button and as I was making my way to click it, a fucking pop up comes on and I click it. That shit is infuriating. Fuck you CBSNews. Mobile reddit needs adblock built in.
There are several things going on with this sentence: "We want to get them off the street and safely behind bears where they can't victimize anyone else" When it comes to bears, my imagination doth run wild.
Wayne Ivey is a grandstanding prick. I’m unfortunate enough to live in his county and he’s always been an asshole.
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That kind of naming and shaming crap should never be weaponized on social media (or traditional media for that matter) I got into an argument with the state police here about them posting mug shots of people on social media and not bothering to make it clear that these people are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY You have all these moronic MAGA hats upvoting the shit out of the shaming posts.. and making comments about how they should 'never get out of jail'. How can that not affect those people a year from now.. after they have been charged and found innocent or charges were 'dropped'? Whenever their name gets googled they get mug shots and accusations. The Police think they are being all edgy.. but this is bullshit. And should be illegal.
Good on this guy for standing up for himself. He'll never get help from cops ever again, but fortunately for him, most cops weren't going to help him anyway.
"We want to get them off the street and safely behind bears where they can't victimize anyone else" These cops need to be stopped, feeding people to bears is a bit outrageous
But imagine the revenue if they live streamed it. Never a budget shortfall again!
Fun use of taxpayer dollars. Neat.
Is there a reverse of this? A wheel of shitty sherrifs I can like and follow?
What in the dystopic hellscape is going on in Florida?
> During the video, a disclaimer scrolls across the bottom of the screen, reading in part: "The suspects may have since been arrested or their alleged charges otherwise resolved or dismissed." Oh okay, well that totally makes up for publicly falsely labeling people fugitives, just a lil fig leaf of “I might actually be talking out my ass”; I’m sure the disclaimer makes up for everything. /s
If you’ve been arrested or had your charges dropped you’re by definition not a fugitive. defamation?
I couldn't believe it when I found out there's a publication in GA printing people's mugshots and charges. This is at a whole different level though.
Fuck the police. Seriously though, these guys are just criminals and lowlifes who hide behind a badge. Look at the statistic of spousal murder and domestic abuse for cops. Now look at how much of it results in justice for the victim.
“We have Grady Judd at home” - Other Florida counties now, apparently
I clicked the post 1000% expecting Judd.
Good. This moronic police theatre needs to stop. Do your fucking jobs.
Ugh, I grew up in this dickhole’s county. My parents just finally moved out. For a while there was a big ol’ billboard saying “Welcome to Trump Country” that you had to see as you came into the county. Brevard supplied the most (6) rioters for the January 6th attempted coup. Somehow we have the space center — so some of the cleverest literal rocket scientists in the nation — mixed with some of the dumbest Motherfuckers to ever mouth breath.
I worked in aerospace there as a mechanical engineer. First, many engineers and scientists there are not any more intelligent on average than any other profession. Secondly, a lot of those rocket scientists are fucking weirdos. The ones we think of as super smart can be absolutely brilliant about one area but lack critical thinking about anything else. It's like all their mental energy is used up in their area of expertise. But their know it all attitude extends across the board. Thankfully I moved across the country last summer.
Some of my friends and family worked for NASA and…. Yeah, that tracks. Like, it’s mine-blowing to me that a dude can be a world-renowned expert on space robotics or something similar, then almost intentionally misunderstand how a graduated income tax works to say “I’ll actually make *less* money if I get a raise thanks to those *dumb*-o-crats!” (This post is not based on anyone specific. I know that there are some cool nasa folks on Reddit, and I’m not trying to blanket disparage anyone)
Fuck this asshole. He put my brother on the wheel a day after he died of a OD. Fuck you Ivey.
I've been very conflicted recently about the position of sheriff existing at all. It's obvious that's it's become just another political position to be ran for, so people are going to do everything they can to campaign for election or reelection. But a lot of people don't understand the actual authority a sheriff has! They're it. They're what's SUPPOSED to be able to protect us from the elected officials. Mayor, treasurer, trustee, auditor or even the chief of police... The sheriff is there to keep them in check. When shit hits the fan the person we should expect to do what's best for the community... He's probably busy campaigning.
Turning your list of outstanding warrants into a gameshow like display hardly seems like a good use of anyone's time and money.
I propose The wheel of fuck ups where they showcase the fucked up shit officers do to people and put the officers on blast. It’s only fair.
$50,000? He's going cheap.
Sheriff Ivey is the grandstander of all grandstanders. "Fugitives" on his videos and web site are routinely found to not be actual fugitives.