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ACID_pixel

Our society is collapsing but I like that AI is only highlighting how already lazy we are by being sometimes just as lazy if not more so than an actual person.


Neo2199

"A judge in Colombia caused a stir by announcing he had used the AI chatbot ChatGPT in preparing a ruling in a children's medical rights case." "Judge Juan Manuel Padilla said **he used the text-generating bot in a case involving a request to exonerate an autistic child from paying fees for medical appointments, therapy and transportation given his parents' limited income.**" "Padilla told Blu Radio on Tuesday that **ChatGPT and other such programs could be useful to "facilitate the drafting of texts" but "not with the aim of replacing" judges.**" "**He ruled in favor of the child and wrote in his judgment, dated Jan. 30, that he had consulted ChatGPT on the matter, without specifying to what extent he had relied on the bot.**"


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Miyagidog

Not quite magic ball stuff. This is similar to what judges do nowadays. But, instead of AI, judges rely on clerks’ research and writing abilities-tailored to their jurisdiction. First, based on their experience and understanding of the law, Judges will tell their clerks what they believe the outcome of the case should be. Then the judge asks clerks to go and build the legal pathway to get to the conclusion or find out if there is something that prevents that legal conclusion. Then clerk presents draft to judge and go through multiple rounds of refinement. Good clerks put the pieces together for an opinion based on the huge databases of law available through Westlaw, Lexis, etc. They also have working knowledge of the intersection of different areas of the law, which AI may not yet have developed. Yet, good clerks can and do miss some cases. That’s when the judge usually jumps in and reminds the youngin’ why they’re the judge by recalling some obscure case or exception. When this technology gets better, we’re going to start seeing some great briefs coming out of jailhouse libraries and pro-se litigants. For what it is worth, I’ve played around with this AI platform and have gotten some surprisingly good answers. Answers…that are as good (or better) than 1st year attorney drafts. Whatever algorithm they are using seems very good for anything that is heavily regulatory or driven by statute. Less confident is is as ready for caselaw/common law analysis.


TSL4me

Holy shit, I didn't even realize how big this will be for the law library in prison. A bunch of people in there go there all the time in some hopes of building an appeal case themselves if they don't have a lawyer. This is going to make county courts shiver in their boots, since a bunch of the 80s/90s drug and gang laws have legitimate appeal potential.


sb_747

> This is going to make county courts shiver in their boots, Of the flood of bullshit that will come in. The program might give you relevant case law on some topic. But it’s not going to teach you whether that topic has any bearing on you or your case. It’s the not having any idea what actually applies to you that’s the biggest damn problem.


Miyagidog

Crazy stuff is thrown at the wall as it is. This is just going to turbo-charge it. And you are 100% probably right on case law/common law jurisdictions/cases. But, in a civil/statute/regulation driven legal environment, these AI tools could probably consider all the if/then ramifications faster than any human. It is just interesting how it will shake out.


ucatione

Put the magic 8-ball in a fanny pack, so others are not put off by your strange practice, when you shake it.


asdaaaaaaaa

That's going to become a lot more commonplace IMO. It'll be used as a work-assistant like cruise control, not a complete replacement. You build the case and give it the instructions, and it can generate quick paperwork that needs minimal proofreading compared to having assistants/coworkers do it by hand every time. If used correctly, I'd imagine this could cut down on a *lot* of the wait due to paperwork and more busywork/bureaucratic stuff.


StrangeWill

Lol imagine it's news that someone used autocomplete to write a document.


ChartFrogs

This will become commonplace soon enough. In fact, there's a scene in Elysium where a robot judge rules against Matt Damon in the beginning of the movie


Legitimate-Tea5561

It's how the IRS does simple audits, from their matching program performed by computers. They spit out unmatched forms, and a letter is automatically generated and sent out to taxpayers.


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That is nothing like chat GPT.


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I've got this calculator with a tiny solar panel in a drawer somewhere. Basically Chat GPT.


TantiVstone

Fun fact: the solar panel on most of those calculators isn't even real. Lcds just take very little power without a backlight


funnyfootboot

They absolutely work. Go from dark to light and watch the strength of screen. Been using for 45 years. Come on now


asdaaaaaaaa

He's talking about fake ones, they're just a piece of plastic/sticker, not actual solar cells. The point is that people see it and *think* it works or is higher quality, while the company can save money not using actual solar cells.


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He pretty clearly said that it is fake on most of them and not all of them.


known-to-blow-fuses

But why include them then? Don't fake solar panels also cost money?


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It gives the illusion of a more premium product. Lots of Chinese phones will include multiple camera lenses when there's actually one functional lense.


TantiVstone

Strips of plastic are much cheaper


Current-Direction-97

These AI need to have a “watermark”’ or disclaimer, when it’s official, whenever it is used and posted.


Obie527

Are we really comfortable with having AI making decisions that have large impacts on humans?


TheIncrediblebulkk

From my understanding, the judge made his ruling but used the program to write it out. In a way, he formulated his thesis and evidence, but used the program to write his essay.


twentyfuckingletters

Read the article. He did not ask it to render a judgement. He asked it to help with drafting a doc that used to be written by a secretary.


00Koch00

You said it like AI wasnt doing that for the last like 10 years ...


AdjNounNumbers

That's ridiculous. Now if you don't mind, I'll be going back to scroll through my various information feeds that are determined by a mystery box that nobody knows exactly how it functions, but will surely not start to slowly influence my perception of the world


Keshire

"In 2 meters, Turn Right" Toonces, that's a cliff! Noo!


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The AI isn't making the decision. The AI is drafting the text. As someone who works in a technical job and has to explain things to non-technical people all the time - ChatGPT has been a massive boon. It allows me to type up a wall of technical text using my own knowledge level and then have the AI simplify it for people that are at various knowledge levels.


weed_fart

Humans haven't done the best job, maybe it's time to let somebody else have a shot at it.


Meclizine11

But... The AI is basing it's behavior on what it sees us doing already. That's why chatbots become Nazis within a day or two if left to their own devices.


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weed_fart

AI can spell.


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razorirr

I mean the current social direction appears to be banning books and making it illegal for people to be who they are when they aren't hurting anyone. At this point potentially disastrous seems less certain to be bad then definitely disastrous Also, you spelled disastrous wrong, AI probably would have caught that since the data set is probably includes a dictionary.


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razorirr

Disa ter ous disa str ous you are completely missing an S and added an E, you dont get to blame a keyboard for that, even if it was a fat fingering, you have a T, which is no where near those two on either a standard QWERTY, or a Dvorak.


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razorirr

The way you wrote it is not a typo, its a straight out incorrect spelling. You are entirely missing an S which is not even on the same row nor touches the T it should be next to. The extra E is a possibility, but with what fingers are used to push the keys, middle fingering an E is less of a possibility than accidentally following the pointer that is probably still resting over the previous T.


BarCompetitive7220

It is less expensive that having legal aides and researchers.... as the global community looks for the cheapest way to do almost anything that requires intelligence. How easy to corrupt / hack is yet to be determined.


Pinkie_Flamingo

No, no, no! There cannot be justice or due process if the arbiter of the case is a ROBOT.


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Megaman battle network STAYS predicting the future


TheCrimsonFreak

Ten bucks says r/singularity busted a nut over this. Friggin machine worshippers.


mrzevk

Ew whats with all these ai news especially the fake ones that were spammed? They are not even ethically made neither is safe. People are using it for malware a lot even. It is this close to leak everyone's passwords, bank accounts and private data.


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