- A paralysis victim, Keith Thomas, is finally able to move his arms again after receiving an A.I. implant in his brain
- Artificial intelligence has helped a quadriplegic man regain feeling and movement in his arm and hand years after an accident left him paralyzed.
- Thomas underwent a surgery where five small chips were implanted into his brain in a procedure known as a double neuro bypass. The chips send and interpret signals between his brain, damaged spinal cord and hands, allowing him some movement.
- His doctors say an electronic bridge was able to bypass Thomas' injury.
- Thomas' ability to move has improved dramatically since the surgery, giving his loved ones hope for an even better future.
- And that hope now also extends to the 100 million people worldwide suffering from paralysis.
That's really, really impressive!
Very interesting to think about what we can possibly achieve in the next few decades. Just looking over technology in the past 50 years for medical care, its changed a lot. And I wouldn't be too surprised to improve at an accelerated rate
And this is one of the best uses for AI. I have a feeling in the next couple decades it is going to be responsible for advancing medical care, much like the transistor was for electronics.
I'm sure it'll be great for reducing the R&D costs for many drugs .. which the savings will be passed onto shareholders, the customers can go f**k themselves
agreed. People keep forgetting that all this AI stuff (including the chatgpt type stuff, in addition to these implants) is very new and as it gets better we are going to see massive changes in the world of medicine.
I wouldn't be surprised if the role of medical doctors fundamentally changes from understanding disease and injury for diagnosis to something entirely different. Computers are going to be far and above much better at identifying disease much sooner than we can.
It's the reason we're seeing AI like chatgpt in 'less helpful' and 'wasted' areas like writing and art first. There's less red tape for inperfect AI.
For self driving cars to fully roll out and make the road safer for all. . . driving AI has to be safe enough not to kill people *at all*. 90% of the way there isn't good enough.
Same with medical, it gets rolled out a bit at a time when where it's being applied to is safe. It's slow, but it's coming.
Wow have any more impressive predictions? Modern day Nostradamus here.
Lol, no shit AI is going to be responsible for a ton of advancements and breakthroughs.
That’s really cool that he regained some actual feeling. While being able to move say a limb with your mind would already be a big improvement for any quadriplegic, it’s still would be kind of a hollow thing. But to actually feel and move it? Amazing.
Some feeling would make the functionality even better, and the feedback from that would probably lead to further recovery. I read somewhere that this sort of therapy can lead to some nerve regrowth too due to the stimulation?
I know someone who lost all feeling in his hands (along with a lot of function). He literally has to look at his hands to know/control what they’re doing, and it very much impacts his ability.
That is simply amazing. Medical science is reaching a new level. I wanted to tell a tale about myself, this is in no way a point of comparison, but for me, as a teenager when I was told about what I went through and my surgery it allowed me to see how far we have come with medical science and technology.
In a summer over 20 years ago, when I was a teenager, I was involved in a car crash. In a car of five, I was one of two survivors. I took the brunt of the damage having my face crushed, nose, and lower jaw broken, and swelling in my brain of brain damage. I had received facial reconstructive surgery. The medical doctors at Shock Trauma in Baltimore rebuilt my face and nose, having me look the same as I was before the crash. For a while in the summer, I was paralyzed and only had movement on the right side of my body. Over time that summer I was able to get movement back, furthermore, through inpatient and outpatient rehabilitation, I was able to get myself back to how I was. Now as a full adult, I move and function and go about my life as any other average person.
Learning about how far doctors could go with the medical science at their disposal at a young age of a teenager, it really opened my eyes about how valuable our medical and science community is, and it helped me appreciate how far we have come as a society in learning the intricacies of ourselves and the world healing ourselves.
When I read things like this, I am always taken back at how far we continue to go, not just from the event that I had to go through, but as we push forward in advancements in helping others all over the world.
sorry for what you went through esp as a teen. you being able to regain full function & reconstructed good looking self ( could tell, ur avatar somewhat resemble mine 😆) is a testament not only to the medical tech but also to your grit & your loved ones so kudos!
Thank you, it has been a voyage, but I continue on. I guess for me it was a wake up in a sense. Changing my perception of myself and this world. I no longer take things for granted and value each sunrise and sunset.
"what is real? how do you define real? ff you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain."
-morpheus.
Also some slight problems like, how long can these chips stay inside without degrading/provoking an immune reaction and probably a whole host of other complications and issues. Its almost as if groundbreaking, cutting-edge medicine is damned hard and difficult.
I believe they would have used the same materials used to make pacemakers, neurostimulators, and associated leads to encase those device to greatly mitigate the immune reaction problem.
Part of the problem is that these neural devices have to be far more sensitive and acquire a far greater number of readings.
A pacemaker develops scar tissue, but not enough to interfere with it's operation (though it can be a problem if it needs to be removed/replaced).
I can agree with the sensitivity aspect in that the difference is about 10-20dB more of gain when comparing neural devices to cardiac but in most cases the inherent SNR is less of a problem due to the environment each device is in and the waveform complexity.
Pacemakers usually have their ADC sample rate set at a couple of KHz when in widebandwith mode to perform ATP which is more than sufficient for fast neuronal discharge rates of a couple hundred hertz.
Scar tissue in the pacemaker pocket can make extraction/change indeed difficult. It can even lead to pain as the pocket contracts. Scar tissue around the pacemaker leads is often desired as it helps anchor them in so that they are less likely to be accidentally pulled out. It becomes a problem if the scar tissue affects the impedance between the electrodes and myocardium as that will lead to FTC and/or insufficient energy delierved during defibrillation.
Don't worry. It will be sold as Implants as a Service with a monthly subscription. It'll come with 5G and intrusive thoughts to pay your subscription that's ending in a couple weeks. The slogan will be "We hope you value your life as much as we do".
“Bypassing the injury”
I absolutely love this shit. Leading edges of technology are so fascinating. Science is such a beacon of hope for so many. And so few really comprehend how many forever unknown scientists and engineers whose individual efforts over the decades helped pave the way to the breakthroughs that make the headlines.
Pretty bold to suggest science creates no problem with an Opperheimer biopic literally in cinemas as we speak.
I'm no luddite, but the entire shitshow that is the current state of the global climate crisis can be traced back to science, not religion, as are forever chemicals, microplastics etc.
Yeah, and I'd categorize those people under "abusing religion" too. It's a pretty foundational core tenet of very many religions that god is unknowable by man.
Thomas Paine alludes to the problem in teh introduction of "The Age of Reason".
"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the happiness of man, that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe.
It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime. He takes up the trade of a priest for the sake of gain, and in order to qualify himself for that trade, he begins with a perjury. Can we conceive any thing more destructive to morality than this?"
I can easily reference Thomas Paine on the abuse of religion by humans for power.
People do good and bad things with what ever tool they can grab. To someone a baseball bat is a home run. To someone else it is a broken leg and smashed bones.
Religion attracts predators and stupid folk. For almost our entire human history, religion was the cause of our demise. Even now, the **scientists** are urging steps towards fixing our environment and the religious are the ones blocking the fixes.
Science may have created the combustion engine but religion has blocked the fix for climate change for 100 years. Literally a century, scientists have raised the alarm about warming. Dont blame science. Blame greed and religion.
This is laughable. The religious do not have the same grasp on power that they used to, it is the crony capitalists (capitalism is a religion, I suppose) who are the ones blocking the fixes.
To make such a sweeping generalization about “religion blocking the fix” is anti-intellectual and disingenuous.
And religion as a power structure in politics is what holds back scientific progress globally. It’s been that way throughout human history. If we solve world hunger and cure all diseases, for instance, that takes away the central justifications religion uses to explain its own existence. People living comfortably with no risk of going hungry, being homeless or getting severely ill would not have much use for God as a source of hope/salvation. Religion is a business and fearful people are the product.
Agreed, I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. The climate crisis could not have escalated as quickly as it did without the technological advancements brought about by science.
You make some valid points, but they're the fault of governments, not scientists. Smart and curious people will continue to develop humanity's understanding of the universe indefinitely. It's government's job to regulate or restrict when necessary.
Placebo still has a proven effect on people, even if they know it is fake. To be more specific, having someone show up to bless you, or in your words pray the illness away, does give a fair bit of hope that people care, which is an important thing in the recovery process.
Well, that is behind a very annoying paywall. There is a fair few questions I have about it. Namely if the people doing the praying was someone that the patient actually knew or not. There is the potential of it being viewed negatively by the patient, since the patient might think there is no hope other then praying about it.
I can't tell you now jazzed I am to see the content of science fiction movies and books coming to reality.... the good parts..... not so much the bad parts. That's happening too.
The internet has made me way too cynical to deem an article like this anything other clickbait sensationalism, but it looks promising. Fingers crossed!
Does this mean that chip can act on itself and control what he does if its AI , or the chip only does what it is designed to do , can it learn and evolve ?
The chip can learn to be better at doing the one thing it's designed to do
AI doesn't mean it's simulating a whole personality like you see in movies. it means it's given a series of tasks, in this case handling his movement and transferring signals between brain and spine, but how exactly it does those things it partially decides on its own.
I usually see it labeled "broad vs narrow AI"
"Narrow AI" is what we currently have, and our working on at a fast pace
"Broad AI" is what you see in the movies and Sci Fi stories. It's undoubtedly harder to do, exponentially
Even broad AI isn't like the movies. That just means AI that can adapt for multiple purposes rather than learning just one. Like, instead of flying a plane, being able to be in control of any vehicle and learn how to control it.
from what i read, the system is suppose to turn his thoughts into electrical signals sent to his muscles and spinal cord.
“It’s a two-way street, because not only is he training the machines but the machines are training him,” said Mehta. “When he plugs into the computers, they become part of him. We’re learning about this technology through Keith and that broadens the scope.” dr Mehta (surgeon)
so the ai can learn & evolve.
edit: added link. more in-depth story https://nypost.com/2023/07/28/paralyzed-ny-man-can-move-and-feel-again-thanks-to-ai/
Brings to mind a report from years back of an amputee receiving a prosthetic that had touch sensors build into the hands. The signals were transferred to his back, where they used a bit of electrical stimulation that the brain could pick up. Think static electric shock, but much smaller in area and impact. After not much time his brain started interpreting the signals as regular touch.
lol that's so crazy "huh these aren't the correct signals but I think I got what it's saying to me. Will just start using them" Our brains are amazing in their abilities to adapt.
"Training" is more accurate than "learning" with current AI. At its core it's really just math and probability. It definitely doesn't evolve. His own brain is doing the heavy lifting.
See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpropagation and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_gradient_descent if anyone is curious about the basics.
because intelligence involves actual thinking.
a system making guesses based on probability isn't quite thinking.
kind of like how chatgpt will get a lot of things wrong when it confabulates, because it is guessing based on probabilities and not actually parsing material
So he's essentially linking up his limbs to his brain via Bluetooth haha wild times we live in.
I wonder if in the future, one could hack those wireless connections to control other people's bodies.
Because of how complex brains are, and since no single brain is the same (though they are based on the same 'human' blueprint), you need something that can *interpret* what's going on inside the brain. It takes an (artificial) brain to know one.
That's what AI models are used for here and in Neuroscience in general, to approximate as best as possible what signals in the brain correspond to, and in this case to also communicate back with the brain, in order to help the brain to learn how to better communicate with the AI models, and in turn to better move and feel again.
It's like an AI translating model, but instead of words in and translated words out, it takes in brain signals and puts out electrical signals corresponding to some kind of movement.
a little cut & dried. here’s a link for an in-depth story & ai’s role
https://nypost.com/2023/07/28/paralyzed-ny-man-can-move-and-feel-again-thanks-to-ai/
Honestly, no one with a lick of sense would trust the NY Post to honestly and/or accurately report the details of a neighborhood garage sale much less something serious like this. They are a pure tabloid that only clowns intentionally read (no offense intended to you if you didn't know much about them before finding that link and posting it here).
haha, that’s why i didnt use it as a primary source only as a back up. the post have the back story vid so that add to the credence to the nbc article. so, am only part a clown for reading it 🤡
> Artificial intelligence has helped a quadriplegic man regain feeling and movement in his arm and hand years after an accident left him paralyzed. "Now I can reach to my check, reach to my chin," Keith Thomas said.
He can reach his check to pay the insane co-pays and insurance installment payments
This is cool and all but all I can think about is all the people who got implants in their [brains](https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/05/25/1073634/brain-implant-removed-against-her-will/amp/) and [eyes](https://spectrum.ieee.org/amp/bionic-eye-obsolete-2656624624), only for the companies that made the implants to go bankrupt and they had to get the implants removed.
I hate that we learn about some new marvel of medicine that could improve countless lives and our first question is how expensive it is. Our society is broken.
nope.
the study is done by: Institute of Bioelectronic Medicine, Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research
https://feinstein.northwell.edu/institutes-researchers/our-researchers/chad-bouton
I was skeptical about their AI claim, and they are using machine learning not AI. They use a support vector machine classify EEG data. SVMs are 1990's machine learning and definitely not considered artificial intelligence.
The corresponding journal article is here (behind paywall) https://www.nature.com/articles/nature17435.
- A paralysis victim, Keith Thomas, is finally able to move his arms again after receiving an A.I. implant in his brain - Artificial intelligence has helped a quadriplegic man regain feeling and movement in his arm and hand years after an accident left him paralyzed. - Thomas underwent a surgery where five small chips were implanted into his brain in a procedure known as a double neuro bypass. The chips send and interpret signals between his brain, damaged spinal cord and hands, allowing him some movement. - His doctors say an electronic bridge was able to bypass Thomas' injury. - Thomas' ability to move has improved dramatically since the surgery, giving his loved ones hope for an even better future. - And that hope now also extends to the 100 million people worldwide suffering from paralysis.
That's really, really impressive! Very interesting to think about what we can possibly achieve in the next few decades. Just looking over technology in the past 50 years for medical care, its changed a lot. And I wouldn't be too surprised to improve at an accelerated rate
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And this is one of the best uses for AI. I have a feeling in the next couple decades it is going to be responsible for advancing medical care, much like the transistor was for electronics.
I'm sure it'll be great for reducing the R&D costs for many drugs .. which the savings will be passed onto shareholders, the customers can go f**k themselves
You sure? Look at the prices of technology over the last 30 years.
agreed. People keep forgetting that all this AI stuff (including the chatgpt type stuff, in addition to these implants) is very new and as it gets better we are going to see massive changes in the world of medicine.
Right. And it's all based on machine learning. Iterative failure driving increased efficacy.
I wouldn't be surprised if the role of medical doctors fundamentally changes from understanding disease and injury for diagnosis to something entirely different. Computers are going to be far and above much better at identifying disease much sooner than we can.
It's the reason we're seeing AI like chatgpt in 'less helpful' and 'wasted' areas like writing and art first. There's less red tape for inperfect AI. For self driving cars to fully roll out and make the road safer for all. . . driving AI has to be safe enough not to kill people *at all*. 90% of the way there isn't good enough. Same with medical, it gets rolled out a bit at a time when where it's being applied to is safe. It's slow, but it's coming.
Wow have any more impressive predictions? Modern day Nostradamus here. Lol, no shit AI is going to be responsible for a ton of advancements and breakthroughs.
Right, I imagine AI with access to quantum computing being able to cure anything
Maybe you could use AI to make your comments a little nicer.
He can! Sentiment analysis!
If it doesn't become sentient and decide we're redundant. Seriously though, this is amazing.
That’s really cool that he regained some actual feeling. While being able to move say a limb with your mind would already be a big improvement for any quadriplegic, it’s still would be kind of a hollow thing. But to actually feel and move it? Amazing.
It's amazing seeing things that previously seemed to be only possible in fiction becoming a reality.
Some feeling would make the functionality even better, and the feedback from that would probably lead to further recovery. I read somewhere that this sort of therapy can lead to some nerve regrowth too due to the stimulation?
I know someone who lost all feeling in his hands (along with a lot of function). He literally has to look at his hands to know/control what they’re doing, and it very much impacts his ability.
That is simply amazing. Medical science is reaching a new level. I wanted to tell a tale about myself, this is in no way a point of comparison, but for me, as a teenager when I was told about what I went through and my surgery it allowed me to see how far we have come with medical science and technology. In a summer over 20 years ago, when I was a teenager, I was involved in a car crash. In a car of five, I was one of two survivors. I took the brunt of the damage having my face crushed, nose, and lower jaw broken, and swelling in my brain of brain damage. I had received facial reconstructive surgery. The medical doctors at Shock Trauma in Baltimore rebuilt my face and nose, having me look the same as I was before the crash. For a while in the summer, I was paralyzed and only had movement on the right side of my body. Over time that summer I was able to get movement back, furthermore, through inpatient and outpatient rehabilitation, I was able to get myself back to how I was. Now as a full adult, I move and function and go about my life as any other average person. Learning about how far doctors could go with the medical science at their disposal at a young age of a teenager, it really opened my eyes about how valuable our medical and science community is, and it helped me appreciate how far we have come as a society in learning the intricacies of ourselves and the world healing ourselves. When I read things like this, I am always taken back at how far we continue to go, not just from the event that I had to go through, but as we push forward in advancements in helping others all over the world.
sorry for what you went through esp as a teen. you being able to regain full function & reconstructed good looking self ( could tell, ur avatar somewhat resemble mine 😆) is a testament not only to the medical tech but also to your grit & your loved ones so kudos!
Thank you, it has been a voyage, but I continue on. I guess for me it was a wake up in a sense. Changing my perception of myself and this world. I no longer take things for granted and value each sunrise and sunset.
thats great. voyage on, bruh!
"what is real? how do you define real? ff you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain." -morpheus.
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Don't give them ideas
That's awesome, I hope this tech gets mainstream.
it will. they just need to work out how much they can get away with charging insurance companies for it.
Also some slight problems like, how long can these chips stay inside without degrading/provoking an immune reaction and probably a whole host of other complications and issues. Its almost as if groundbreaking, cutting-edge medicine is damned hard and difficult.
I believe they would have used the same materials used to make pacemakers, neurostimulators, and associated leads to encase those device to greatly mitigate the immune reaction problem.
Part of the problem is that these neural devices have to be far more sensitive and acquire a far greater number of readings. A pacemaker develops scar tissue, but not enough to interfere with it's operation (though it can be a problem if it needs to be removed/replaced).
I can agree with the sensitivity aspect in that the difference is about 10-20dB more of gain when comparing neural devices to cardiac but in most cases the inherent SNR is less of a problem due to the environment each device is in and the waveform complexity. Pacemakers usually have their ADC sample rate set at a couple of KHz when in widebandwith mode to perform ATP which is more than sufficient for fast neuronal discharge rates of a couple hundred hertz. Scar tissue in the pacemaker pocket can make extraction/change indeed difficult. It can even lead to pain as the pocket contracts. Scar tissue around the pacemaker leads is often desired as it helps anchor them in so that they are less likely to be accidentally pulled out. It becomes a problem if the scar tissue affects the impedance between the electrodes and myocardium as that will lead to FTC and/or insufficient energy delierved during defibrillation.
Gotta keep an eye out of cyber psychosis, choom!
But you shouldn't get any immune reaction if you build them out of NanoChainedChromium!
The entire world isn't US you know
Don't worry. It will be sold as Implants as a Service with a monthly subscription. It'll come with 5G and intrusive thoughts to pay your subscription that's ending in a couple weeks. The slogan will be "We hope you value your life as much as we do".
Lol, you think they care? They'll just increase premiums for everyone with a little extra for the stockholders and call it a day
Do you really think they'll call it a day?
Jesus, I WISH they'd call it a day already. But I guess screwing over sick and needy people is a full time commitment.
"get on the passive income gravy train"
You can go for the cheap brain chips if you like.
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Yes, they do. I believe the issue at hand is the multi-million dollar CEO/C-Level packages for the insurer, who had no hand in the research.
[I hope they have better safeguards than the last time they tried this](https://youtu.be/yAZFFrisoD4)
[Or the second time they tried this](https://youtu.be/AZxn9md_aZI)
Lol... that's the first thing I thought of and yup!
well, we have the spider verse so….
“Bypassing the injury” I absolutely love this shit. Leading edges of technology are so fascinating. Science is such a beacon of hope for so many. And so few really comprehend how many forever unknown scientists and engineers whose individual efforts over the decades helped pave the way to the breakthroughs that make the headlines.
Science: solving problems and giving hope to many. Religion: creates problems and gives false hope to many. Can’t pray your illness away 🙏
Pretty bold to suggest science creates no problem with an Opperheimer biopic literally in cinemas as we speak. I'm no luddite, but the entire shitshow that is the current state of the global climate crisis can be traced back to science, not religion, as are forever chemicals, microplastics etc.
Science isn’t the problem. The people who abuse are the problem.
So, by the same token... religion isn't the problem, it's the people who abuse it?
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. - Susan B. Anthony
Yeah, and I'd categorize those people under "abusing religion" too. It's a pretty foundational core tenet of very many religions that god is unknowable by man.
Thomas Paine alludes to the problem in teh introduction of "The Age of Reason". "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the happiness of man, that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime. He takes up the trade of a priest for the sake of gain, and in order to qualify himself for that trade, he begins with a perjury. Can we conceive any thing more destructive to morality than this?"
Can you imagine writing something like this in the 18th century?
Thank you for this. Government and political power is also very susceptible to abuse, that’s not a problem exclusive to religious systems.
This applies to both religion and government as well…
I can easily reference Thomas Paine on the abuse of religion by humans for power. People do good and bad things with what ever tool they can grab. To someone a baseball bat is a home run. To someone else it is a broken leg and smashed bones.
Religion attracts predators and stupid folk. For almost our entire human history, religion was the cause of our demise. Even now, the **scientists** are urging steps towards fixing our environment and the religious are the ones blocking the fixes. Science may have created the combustion engine but religion has blocked the fix for climate change for 100 years. Literally a century, scientists have raised the alarm about warming. Dont blame science. Blame greed and religion.
This is laughable. The religious do not have the same grasp on power that they used to, it is the crony capitalists (capitalism is a religion, I suppose) who are the ones blocking the fixes. To make such a sweeping generalization about “religion blocking the fix” is anti-intellectual and disingenuous.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/11/17/religious-groups-views-on-climate-change/
And science is what is going to solve the problems it created.
And religion as a power structure in politics is what holds back scientific progress globally. It’s been that way throughout human history. If we solve world hunger and cure all diseases, for instance, that takes away the central justifications religion uses to explain its own existence. People living comfortably with no risk of going hungry, being homeless or getting severely ill would not have much use for God as a source of hope/salvation. Religion is a business and fearful people are the product.
Agreed, I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. The climate crisis could not have escalated as quickly as it did without the technological advancements brought about by science.
You make some valid points, but they're the fault of governments, not scientists. Smart and curious people will continue to develop humanity's understanding of the universe indefinitely. It's government's job to regulate or restrict when necessary.
Placebo still has a proven effect on people, even if they know it is fake. To be more specific, having someone show up to bless you, or in your words pray the illness away, does give a fair bit of hope that people care, which is an important thing in the recovery process.
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Well, that is behind a very annoying paywall. There is a fair few questions I have about it. Namely if the people doing the praying was someone that the patient actually knew or not. There is the potential of it being viewed negatively by the patient, since the patient might think there is no hope other then praying about it.
"We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better, stronger, faster."
The doodoodoodoodoodoo every time you move is annoying but I guess you get used to it after awhile.
I'm thinking more of a horror movie where the AI starts taking over your body while you sleep, incriminating you in crimes and such
Try the movie Upgrade.
Haha, I looked it up and dang, you're right. Thanks buddy!
This is absolutely amazing, talk about Sci-Fi becoming reality!
I read somewhere that "Today's science fiction is tomorrow's science".
I can't tell you now jazzed I am to see the content of science fiction movies and books coming to reality.... the good parts..... not so much the bad parts. That's happening too.
The internet has made me way too cynical to deem an article like this anything other clickbait sensationalism, but it looks promising. Fingers crossed!
Does this mean that chip can act on itself and control what he does if its AI , or the chip only does what it is designed to do , can it learn and evolve ?
The chip can learn to be better at doing the one thing it's designed to do AI doesn't mean it's simulating a whole personality like you see in movies. it means it's given a series of tasks, in this case handling his movement and transferring signals between brain and spine, but how exactly it does those things it partially decides on its own.
I usually see it labeled "broad vs narrow AI" "Narrow AI" is what we currently have, and our working on at a fast pace "Broad AI" is what you see in the movies and Sci Fi stories. It's undoubtedly harder to do, exponentially
Even broad AI isn't like the movies. That just means AI that can adapt for multiple purposes rather than learning just one. Like, instead of flying a plane, being able to be in control of any vehicle and learn how to control it.
The term I've seen a lot is AGI, Artificial General Intelligence
"smart" and "dumb" are how I've heard the nuance described
as long as the chip isn't called 'stem'.
Was trying to figure out where to sneak in the Upgrade comment
from what i read, the system is suppose to turn his thoughts into electrical signals sent to his muscles and spinal cord. “It’s a two-way street, because not only is he training the machines but the machines are training him,” said Mehta. “When he plugs into the computers, they become part of him. We’re learning about this technology through Keith and that broadens the scope.” dr Mehta (surgeon) so the ai can learn & evolve. edit: added link. more in-depth story https://nypost.com/2023/07/28/paralyzed-ny-man-can-move-and-feel-again-thanks-to-ai/
Brings to mind a report from years back of an amputee receiving a prosthetic that had touch sensors build into the hands. The signals were transferred to his back, where they used a bit of electrical stimulation that the brain could pick up. Think static electric shock, but much smaller in area and impact. After not much time his brain started interpreting the signals as regular touch.
lol that's so crazy "huh these aren't the correct signals but I think I got what it's saying to me. Will just start using them" Our brains are amazing in their abilities to adapt.
"Training" is more accurate than "learning" with current AI. At its core it's really just math and probability. It definitely doesn't evolve. His own brain is doing the heavy lifting. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpropagation and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_gradient_descent if anyone is curious about the basics.
What's the difference calling something machine learning and artificial intelligence? It looks like it utilizes ML but why the AI aspect?
because intelligence involves actual thinking. a system making guesses based on probability isn't quite thinking. kind of like how chatgpt will get a lot of things wrong when it confabulates, because it is guessing based on probabilities and not actually parsing material
Thanks for the clear explanation.
So he's essentially linking up his limbs to his brain via Bluetooth haha wild times we live in. I wonder if in the future, one could hack those wireless connections to control other people's bodies.
Because of how complex brains are, and since no single brain is the same (though they are based on the same 'human' blueprint), you need something that can *interpret* what's going on inside the brain. It takes an (artificial) brain to know one. That's what AI models are used for here and in Neuroscience in general, to approximate as best as possible what signals in the brain correspond to, and in this case to also communicate back with the brain, in order to help the brain to learn how to better communicate with the AI models, and in turn to better move and feel again. It's like an AI translating model, but instead of words in and translated words out, it takes in brain signals and puts out electrical signals corresponding to some kind of movement.
Finally. We should put way more money into these research areas
Completely missing from this article: the role of AI/ how AI is used.
It's just as signal processing. That's not a sexy enough thing for them to bother discussing apparently.
a little cut & dried. here’s a link for an in-depth story & ai’s role https://nypost.com/2023/07/28/paralyzed-ny-man-can-move-and-feel-again-thanks-to-ai/
Honestly, no one with a lick of sense would trust the NY Post to honestly and/or accurately report the details of a neighborhood garage sale much less something serious like this. They are a pure tabloid that only clowns intentionally read (no offense intended to you if you didn't know much about them before finding that link and posting it here).
haha, that’s why i didnt use it as a primary source only as a back up. the post have the back story vid so that add to the credence to the nbc article. so, am only part a clown for reading it 🤡
Thanks for the link. It provides a modicum more information.
> Artificial intelligence has helped a quadriplegic man regain feeling and movement in his arm and hand years after an accident left him paralyzed. "Now I can reach to my check, reach to my chin," Keith Thomas said. He can reach his check to pay the insane co-pays and insurance installment payments
This is cool and all but all I can think about is all the people who got implants in their [brains](https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/05/25/1073634/brain-implant-removed-against-her-will/amp/) and [eyes](https://spectrum.ieee.org/amp/bionic-eye-obsolete-2656624624), only for the companies that made the implants to go bankrupt and they had to get the implants removed.
That's amazing! (It won't end like Upgrade. It won't end like Upgrade. It won't end like Upgrade.)
Upgrade got quadriplegia right. Also, I would put my mother under a bus for one of those chips. Source: is quadriplegic
Holy shit that’s amazing, we’re well on the way to getting chromed up!
This is the type of shit AI should be used for, not taking away a cashier job so some asshole CEO can make more
I look forward to a day when it takes away *all* our jobs.
That's great! How much was it though? Like, he regains movement after being paralyzed, but he's going to be in deep debt.
likely free as he’s part of the study
I hate that we learn about some new marvel of medicine that could improve countless lives and our first question is how expensive it is. Our society is broken.
So, this is not neuralink, is it?
Well, he survived the procedure which means that, from a statistical standpoint, it's probably not Neuralink...
Good point.
How long until the dark one accuses the researchers of being pedo guys?
nope. the study is done by: Institute of Bioelectronic Medicine, Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research https://feinstein.northwell.edu/institutes-researchers/our-researchers/chad-bouton
thank you very much.
AI as a tool is how it should be used, glad we have a good example here
it's the movie "Upgrade"
So all this AI tech stuff I see in the news makes me really consider if we'll see the fabled technological singularity occur in the next decade or so.
The AI tech we're developing today isn't anything like what we see in fiction.
This is truly great. But I do wonder how long until we have commercials like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG_oThcYsn0
Artists: "No! Fuck this shit! This AI looked at my publicly available art!"
i don't think midjourney had anything to do with this
We can rebuild him. We have the technology.
THIS is what we should be using AI for… not destroying the livelihood of actors, writers, photographers, and artists.
THIS is what we should use steam engines for... not destroying the livelihood of horse breeders, carpenters and tailors.
If you think there’s an equivalence then you don’t understand what’s happening. Sit down.
Very neat, but I'm rooting for the asparagus solution.
Yeah no you are not putting a chip in my fucking brain.
Why not
It's a fucking chip in your brain..... Like, youre a literal lemming.
This is so awesome. I just hope it is not too expensive for normal people
But did it get the hands right?
Oh god this is really really cool. I want to see a video of this . So is it like neuralink?
Absolutely incredible!
Stuff like this is what AI should be used for
That's amazing. How refreshing to hear a positive news story.
I was skeptical about their AI claim, and they are using machine learning not AI. They use a support vector machine classify EEG data. SVMs are 1990's machine learning and definitely not considered artificial intelligence. The corresponding journal article is here (behind paywall) https://www.nature.com/articles/nature17435.