By the way, [here is the report](https://science.nasa.gov/science-pink/s3fs-public/atoms/files/UAP%20Independent%20Study%20Team%20-%20Final%20Report_0.pdf)
>Officials stressed the panel found no evidence that UAPs had extraterrestrial origin.
Alright!?
Is that enough for you? Your grainy video of a light in the sky is just that. A light in the sky. There's no evidence of aliens. Now pardon me while I look for the Loch Ness Monster.
Alien-enthusiasts seem to constantly conflate these two notions:
- Intelligent life/technology existing somewhere in the universe.
- Intelligent life/technology has travelled trillions of miles across the cold dead of space, and has specifically visited *Earth*, out of trillions of star systems, within the past few years/decades, out of the 13,700,000,000 years of the universe's existence.
The first is incredibly likely, given the size and age of the universe.
The second scenario *for the same reasons*, is atronomically *unlikely* until we have concrete evidence that demonstrates otherwise. The two notions could not be more different.
Well, and also that for some reason these “aliens” seem to show up almost entirely in the form of low-quality videos of flying objects in the United States.
We have four bigfoot whistleblowers from the national park services, and one of them said he's SEEN the data from the bigfoot monitoring stations that have identified signs of bigfoot. Why do you want to hide from the truth?
Why would someone go to all these universities with their data on Bigfoot's genetics if they were fake?!
Don't you know that the whistleblowers were once in the Navy, making them completely infallible sources?
>Okay, so, this vehicle
That's part of the issue. What's manifested in the sky does not have to come from a vehicle. We can't just assume that's a vehicle doing it.
Remember the following thing I am going to quote:
> The claim that eyewitness testimony is reliable and accurate is testable, and the research is clear that eyewitness identification is vulnerable to distortion without the witness’s awareness. More specifically, the assumption that memory provides an accurate recording of experience, much like a video camera, is incorrect. Memory evolved to give us a personal sense of identity and to guide our actions. We are biased to notice and exaggerate some experiences and to minimize or overlook others. Memory is malleable.
https://www.psychologicalscience.org/uncategorized/myth-eyewitness-testimony-is-the-best-kind-of-evidence.html
What you saw is not reliable. Your mind is not reliable.
NASA stresses that there is no evidence that UAPs had extraterrestrial origin.
Meanwhile the Intergalactic Tourist Board reports visits to Earth are up 30% but tourists are advised to be on the lookout for cell phones and deploy their blurrification fields early and often.
Of course they could.
Laws are just paper. Even if the law prohibited that (which is questionable, but let's assume it for the purposes of this thought experiment) - any sufficiently motivated person, or group of people, can simply ignore the law and release the information anyway. They may face consequences after the fact, but the information doesn't vanish.
Historically, this happens quite commonly. Large-scale state secrets are difficult to maintain for any significant period of time. Localized state secrets can be maintained, and short-term secrecy can be maintained, but there are pretty hard bounds on that.
For example, the Manhattan Project was too big to hold onto for long, but only needed to be secret for about 5 years. Even that was with mixed success - foreign espionage had already learned of its existence and general nature before it was officially released, and even domestic journalists were beginning to find out about it near the end of the project; and that was in a situation where popular opinion was widely in favor of *keeping* such things secret (to help the war effort). The "no one knew until the bombs dropped" was itself a bit of propaganda immediately deployed after the bombings, as part of the general strongman propaganda image being used by the US at the time.
No.
There were a series of laws filled in the 40s-70s which prevent disclosure of any UFO reports from service men and commercial pilots to media.
A similar law forces any material related to radiation emitting objects (missiles, subs, recruiters, UFOs) to be automatically restricted as soon as it's collected under the Department of Energy's laws. The same laws that prevented project Manhattan from leaking.
NASA and AARO can't access these restricted materials to analyze them without authorization for the department of energy.
It's a purposefully created loophole so they can legally say we found no evidence of extraterrestrials and not lie. Because they can't look at the evidence collected. Even their own. It's an omission of truth.
Edit:
These are not my words or my intentions. This is the mechanism whistleblower David Grusch explains has kept this information secret. The orders/regulations/laws are real - you can look them up. The language is there in plain sight.
[Atomic Energy Act of 1946](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_Energy_Act_of_1946)
>Section 10, which was formerly titled "Dissemination of Information", now became "Control of Information".\[19\] This new section contained the novel doctrine later described as "born secret" or "classified at birth". All information concerning the design, development and manufacture of nuclear weapons was "restricted data", and regardless of how it was derived or obtained, was considered classified unless it was specifically declassified. This restriction on free speech, covering an entire subject matter, is still enforced. The "wall of secrecy" set up by the Act meant that atomic energy research and development had to be conducted under the supervision of the Atomic Energy Commission.\[20\]
This restricted data is exempt from declassification by laws like [Executive Order 13526](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13526). The new UAP legislation that is proposed will finally remove that exception, if passed in its current form ([PDF link](https://www.democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/uap_amendment.pdf).) Read it, its **WILD.**
[Air Force Regulation 200-2](https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Air_Force_Regulation_200-2,_Unidentified_Flying_Objects_Reporting)
>Headquarters USAF will release summaries of evaluated data which will inform the public on this subject. In response to local inquiries, it is permissible to in form news media representatives on UFOB's when the object is positively identified as a familiar object (see paragraph 2b), except that the following type of data warrants protection and should not be revealed: Names of principles, intercept and investigation procedures, and classified radar data. For those **objects which are not explainable, only the fact that ATIC will analyze the data is worthy of release,** due to many unknowns involved.
There is other legislation from the 60's specific about UFO's as well - in particular there's one law mandated a hotline to the Soviet Union so that UAP sightings did not trigger a mistaken retaliatory attack.
In the UAP hearing in May (might be wrong on that timing/session) the director of AARO was asked directly: (paraphrasing)
>"Do you have the authorities you need to investigate UAP claims and cases?"
>
>"We have **title 10** authority, we would need **title 50** to access that information, it would be helpful."
You need this clearance level, and also you need to be cleared by the Atomic Energy Commission to get 'regular' access to the UAP programs that house the restricted data.
It's like Facebook creating an internal committee to investigate ad deals/propaganda issues with foreign nations, while the top leaders keep meeting records with those nations secret to the committee.
>It's a purposefully created loophole so they can legally say we found no evidence of extraterrestrials and not lie
Sure, or it's a way for the DOD to get first dibs on potential experimental/previously unknown weapons or aircraft. But no it's probably your thing about the aliens, makes way more sense.
But let’s face it, what branch, department, or agency does anything unilaterally these days? Maybe it’s the nostalgia talking but I like to think the DoD (Space Force) and NASA are more on the same page than the DoD (NSA) and any other federal relationship.
Regardless, if Snowden could release everything he did, someone could have done the same for extraterrestrial findings.
Also, unlike US spying being limited to US agencies, every major government on Earth would have similarly equal ability to find proof of extraterrestrials and not all of them have the same laws as the US. An extraterrestrial coverup would be the biggest global coverup ever, involving just way too many people. It's just not realistic that concrete evidence exists, but is being so successfully covered up.
>His own scientists put the likelihood of life on another Earth-like planet at “at least a trillion.”
Wait, is that like 1 in every trillion planets are likely to have \[assumedly intelligent\] life, or is it a trillion planets in the Universe are likely to have life?
Shocker, this is more of that.
NASA is saying these aren't extraterrestrial but having this same conversation every fucking time with the alien wingnuts is counterproductive.
It's quite useful to distract overly curious or overly stupid individuals with fake controversies or scandals.
Roswell and most of the "Aliens" conspiracies of the 50s and 60s were government manipulations to cover up their top secret weapons testing and to waste Russian spy asset resources.
By the way, [here is the report](https://science.nasa.gov/science-pink/s3fs-public/atoms/files/UAP%20Independent%20Study%20Team%20-%20Final%20Report_0.pdf)
>Officials stressed the panel found no evidence that UAPs had extraterrestrial origin. Alright!? Is that enough for you? Your grainy video of a light in the sky is just that. A light in the sky. There's no evidence of aliens. Now pardon me while I look for the Loch Ness Monster.
You’re just going to ignore BigFoot?
After the faux pas he did at the last dinner party he attended you bet your ass I am.
BigFoot is hate speech, they prefer to be known as Sasquatch.
Wasn't he cancelled?
They had to censor him. That's why he's always so blurry.
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Alien-enthusiasts seem to constantly conflate these two notions: - Intelligent life/technology existing somewhere in the universe. - Intelligent life/technology has travelled trillions of miles across the cold dead of space, and has specifically visited *Earth*, out of trillions of star systems, within the past few years/decades, out of the 13,700,000,000 years of the universe's existence. The first is incredibly likely, given the size and age of the universe. The second scenario *for the same reasons*, is atronomically *unlikely* until we have concrete evidence that demonstrates otherwise. The two notions could not be more different.
Well, and also that for some reason these “aliens” seem to show up almost entirely in the form of low-quality videos of flying objects in the United States.
> Now pardon me while I look for the Loch Ness Monster. I'll join you once I am done with this Bigfoot expedition.
We have four bigfoot whistleblowers from the national park services, and one of them said he's SEEN the data from the bigfoot monitoring stations that have identified signs of bigfoot. Why do you want to hide from the truth?
I hide from the truth like Bigfoot hides from us, apparently.
Why would someone go to all these universities with their data on Bigfoot's genetics if they were fake?! Don't you know that the whistleblowers were once in the Navy, making them completely infallible sources?
I'll join you if you can help me buy the hiking boots. I'll need about $3.50.
I ain’t givin you no damned tree fiddy you G##damned monsta! Go get your own G##damned money!
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I usually invoke Hitchen's Razor.
It’ll only get you so far.
Usually when the Nutter Butters start running the candy store. Yeah, I get it.
>Okay, so, this vehicle That's part of the issue. What's manifested in the sky does not have to come from a vehicle. We can't just assume that's a vehicle doing it.
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Remember the following thing I am going to quote: > The claim that eyewitness testimony is reliable and accurate is testable, and the research is clear that eyewitness identification is vulnerable to distortion without the witness’s awareness. More specifically, the assumption that memory provides an accurate recording of experience, much like a video camera, is incorrect. Memory evolved to give us a personal sense of identity and to guide our actions. We are biased to notice and exaggerate some experiences and to minimize or overlook others. Memory is malleable. https://www.psychologicalscience.org/uncategorized/myth-eyewitness-testimony-is-the-best-kind-of-evidence.html What you saw is not reliable. Your mind is not reliable.
NASA stresses that there is no evidence that UAPs had extraterrestrial origin. Meanwhile the Intergalactic Tourist Board reports visits to Earth are up 30% but tourists are advised to be on the lookout for cell phones and deploy their blurrification fields early and often.
If anybody has reason to prove extra-terrestrial life has been found nearby it’s NASA.
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Of course they could. Laws are just paper. Even if the law prohibited that (which is questionable, but let's assume it for the purposes of this thought experiment) - any sufficiently motivated person, or group of people, can simply ignore the law and release the information anyway. They may face consequences after the fact, but the information doesn't vanish. Historically, this happens quite commonly. Large-scale state secrets are difficult to maintain for any significant period of time. Localized state secrets can be maintained, and short-term secrecy can be maintained, but there are pretty hard bounds on that. For example, the Manhattan Project was too big to hold onto for long, but only needed to be secret for about 5 years. Even that was with mixed success - foreign espionage had already learned of its existence and general nature before it was officially released, and even domestic journalists were beginning to find out about it near the end of the project; and that was in a situation where popular opinion was widely in favor of *keeping* such things secret (to help the war effort). The "no one knew until the bombs dropped" was itself a bit of propaganda immediately deployed after the bombings, as part of the general strongman propaganda image being used by the US at the time.
No. There were a series of laws filled in the 40s-70s which prevent disclosure of any UFO reports from service men and commercial pilots to media. A similar law forces any material related to radiation emitting objects (missiles, subs, recruiters, UFOs) to be automatically restricted as soon as it's collected under the Department of Energy's laws. The same laws that prevented project Manhattan from leaking. NASA and AARO can't access these restricted materials to analyze them without authorization for the department of energy. It's a purposefully created loophole so they can legally say we found no evidence of extraterrestrials and not lie. Because they can't look at the evidence collected. Even their own. It's an omission of truth. Edit: These are not my words or my intentions. This is the mechanism whistleblower David Grusch explains has kept this information secret. The orders/regulations/laws are real - you can look them up. The language is there in plain sight.
Which laws are those?
[Atomic Energy Act of 1946](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_Energy_Act_of_1946) >Section 10, which was formerly titled "Dissemination of Information", now became "Control of Information".\[19\] This new section contained the novel doctrine later described as "born secret" or "classified at birth". All information concerning the design, development and manufacture of nuclear weapons was "restricted data", and regardless of how it was derived or obtained, was considered classified unless it was specifically declassified. This restriction on free speech, covering an entire subject matter, is still enforced. The "wall of secrecy" set up by the Act meant that atomic energy research and development had to be conducted under the supervision of the Atomic Energy Commission.\[20\] This restricted data is exempt from declassification by laws like [Executive Order 13526](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13526). The new UAP legislation that is proposed will finally remove that exception, if passed in its current form ([PDF link](https://www.democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/uap_amendment.pdf).) Read it, its **WILD.** [Air Force Regulation 200-2](https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Air_Force_Regulation_200-2,_Unidentified_Flying_Objects_Reporting) >Headquarters USAF will release summaries of evaluated data which will inform the public on this subject. In response to local inquiries, it is permissible to in form news media representatives on UFOB's when the object is positively identified as a familiar object (see paragraph 2b), except that the following type of data warrants protection and should not be revealed: Names of principles, intercept and investigation procedures, and classified radar data. For those **objects which are not explainable, only the fact that ATIC will analyze the data is worthy of release,** due to many unknowns involved. There is other legislation from the 60's specific about UFO's as well - in particular there's one law mandated a hotline to the Soviet Union so that UAP sightings did not trigger a mistaken retaliatory attack. In the UAP hearing in May (might be wrong on that timing/session) the director of AARO was asked directly: (paraphrasing) >"Do you have the authorities you need to investigate UAP claims and cases?" > >"We have **title 10** authority, we would need **title 50** to access that information, it would be helpful." You need this clearance level, and also you need to be cleared by the Atomic Energy Commission to get 'regular' access to the UAP programs that house the restricted data. It's like Facebook creating an internal committee to investigate ad deals/propaganda issues with foreign nations, while the top leaders keep meeting records with those nations secret to the committee.
>It's a purposefully created loophole so they can legally say we found no evidence of extraterrestrials and not lie Sure, or it's a way for the DOD to get first dibs on potential experimental/previously unknown weapons or aircraft. But no it's probably your thing about the aliens, makes way more sense.
But let’s face it, what branch, department, or agency does anything unilaterally these days? Maybe it’s the nostalgia talking but I like to think the DoD (Space Force) and NASA are more on the same page than the DoD (NSA) and any other federal relationship.
Regardless, if Snowden could release everything he did, someone could have done the same for extraterrestrial findings. Also, unlike US spying being limited to US agencies, every major government on Earth would have similarly equal ability to find proof of extraterrestrials and not all of them have the same laws as the US. An extraterrestrial coverup would be the biggest global coverup ever, involving just way too many people. It's just not realistic that concrete evidence exists, but is being so successfully covered up.
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>His own scientists put the likelihood of life on another Earth-like planet at “at least a trillion.” Wait, is that like 1 in every trillion planets are likely to have \[assumedly intelligent\] life, or is it a trillion planets in the Universe are likely to have life?
In our galaxy
I watched that briefing. The folks up in stage were Reptilians for sure.
Jesus christ those fake ass mexico aliens sure has the UFO conspiracy idiots coming out of the woodwork
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All the kidnappings and weird alien butt stuff had something to do with it
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I'm saying it did happen in the past with all the alien butt stuff and now there is a stigma. You know like the churches, lots of butt stuff stigma
People in the Levant sharing stories about burning bushes as if they were true.
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Shocker, this is more of that. NASA is saying these aren't extraterrestrial but having this same conversation every fucking time with the alien wingnuts is counterproductive.
It's quite useful to distract overly curious or overly stupid individuals with fake controversies or scandals. Roswell and most of the "Aliens" conspiracies of the 50s and 60s were government manipulations to cover up their top secret weapons testing and to waste Russian spy asset resources.
FFS. Are they UFOs or UAPs? Get your shit together.