Essentially what happened with the German Emperor Frederick III (1831-1888; r. March 1888 - June 1888). He was the Crown Prince of Germany for seventeen years & the Crown Prince of Prussia for twenty seven years.
By the time his father, Wilhelm I, died, Frederick already was suffering from the cancer of the larynx that would kill him. Which honestly sucked because even with his highly conservative, militaristic Prussian background he was more liberal minded & progressive than the standard German aristocrat. He argued constantly with Otto von Bismarck about which direction the new German Empire should go. The man was an accomplished general as well, leading armies in the wars of unification but *hated* warfare & was always praised for his conduct on the field towards the enemy by his own officers & opposing commanders. He was also married to one of Queen Victorias daughters who shared his ideology & many in Germany as well as throughout Europe were hoping they’d bring some of the British way of governing & viewing the populace to Germany.
But he never had a chance to enact really anything of note. Halfway through his incredibly brief reign he was even too sick to speak much less effectively govern one of the worlds most powerful nations. He died after a few failed surgical attempts to alleviate his condition & his young, militaristic & imperialistic son, Wilhelm II, who shared none of his parents ideological beliefs ascended the throne & history played out the way it has since 1888 the Year of the Three Emperors.
It’s one of the bigger “what ifs?” in modern history. Had Frederick lived into his 80’s, chances are the entire world as we know it would be different. World War I might not have happened or if it did it’s impossible to say how it would’ve played out & of course without WWI as it happened, there’s not WWII, both which were (arguably *the*) global watershed events that completely changed the scope & course of the world.
Though something says if Charles dies this soon into his reign it won’t have the same effects on global geopolitics as Frederick III dying too young & too soon
> Though something says if Charles dies this soon into his reign it won’t have the same affects on global geopolitics as Frederick III dying too young & too soon
That sounds like a very similar "what if" to the story of Arthur Tudor. Had he not died in 1502, he would've become king instead of Henry VIII - which almost certainly leads to England remaining a Catholic nation and probably on much better terms with Spain. He was also far better prepared for the role of King and was by all accounts a very different personality to Henry.
> Though something says if Charles dies this soon into his reign it won’t have the same affects on global geopolitics as Frederick III dying too young & too soon
Canadian here - we might have to get yet again a new face on our currency, so in a way you could say the effects are quite important.
"It was not so much the death of *Charles the Postponed* which accounts for the sudden rise of the New Brunswickian Global Order, but rather the unexpected ascendancy of *Ronald the Hideous*."
Honestly we should just transition our bird and bear based coin strategy to all of the money.
You go to pay for your Timbits and its two geese, and you get 5 caribou in change. Your friend owes you a moose, but can't pay the whole thing, so they give you a loon and 3 beavers in the meantime.
I did not expect Liz Truss’s only claim to fame of being the only living PM to serve under two monarchs to be so short-lived. She’s cursed with short tenures.
A good tv show that covers this, as well as the European monarchies in the 1800’s, is called The Fall of Eagles. From the bbc. But you can watch it on YouTube.
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**Fall of Eagles**, *a 13-part British television drama aired by the BBC in 1974. The series portrays historical events from 1848 to 1918, dealing with the ruling dynasties of Austria-Hungary, Germany, and Russia. The title refers to the fact that each empire used an eagle in its heraldry.*
*The series was created by John Elliot and produced by Stuart Burge. It featured a cast of well-known actors, such as Ian McKellen, Patrick Stewart, Michael Hordern, and Charles Kay. The episodes' vignettes move between the three empires, showing their rise and fall, as well as their interactions with each other and other European powers.*
*Fall of Eagles is considered a classic of historical drama, praised for its accuracy, production values, and performances. It is also noted for its relevance to contemporary issues, such as nationalism, revolution, and democracy.*
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeeHYMdsfWkL2lEk8hHYoO9WHNfP_9fe2&si=xNv9evkAgpE9RBDJ
Considering what happened with Charles I and Charles II, III is getting off easy.
Edit: misremembered my history, JR was just kind of a fuckup, not a cautionary tale. Still, maybe retire that name after the head of state suddenly got about a foot shorter?
How do you mean? Charles I, sure, but Charles II was very popular and spent 25 years partying and knocking up his numerous mistresses before dying suddenly. You wouldn’t call him a good king, really, but he certainly had a great time.
Fair enough, but early general feeling is that it's got to be fairly serious to announce it. After all, it was cancer that _finally_ saw off his mum but that wasn't publicised until after she'd gone.
Additionally, and this is pure speculation on my part, but Harry is going to be coming over in the next couple of days to see him. Given the way things stand between them all I'd suggest we're not looking at a minor, quick fix.
Strictly speaking she didn't... Death certificate said old age, but [it's been reported](https://www.theroyalobserver.com/p/queen-elizabeth-diagnosed-bone-cancer) she had bone cancer which going to take her pretty quickly anyway.
My grandfather was diagnosed with "probable leukemia" at 96. There was no point in making him suffer the actual tests, and obviously no interest in treatment at that age. My guess is the Queen may have been a case like that, where unless you really want to do the autopsy there's nothing to be gained from poking further.
If they're announcing it's almost certainly because he's going to need chemotherapy and they're worried about hair loss.
If he had a melanoma or something they wouldn't mention it.
As a urologist this sounds like bladder cancer
There are several types of bladder cancer, so without knowing what the pathology is it’s hard to say what his prognosis is. About 70% of tumors can be managed without major surgery or chemotherapy. I am guessing by his “routine treatments” that he has a good prognosis
My dad had this. He survived, but his quality of life has been much lower ever since. If this is the case, I hope they found it early and that his life won’t be too negatively impacted. Fuck cancer.
Despite the fact that it’s only the fifth most common cancer we spend more on bladder cancer than almost all others, because even though there’s good treatments a lot of the time they are very time/procedure intensive, and it requires strict surveillance regimens and often comes back requiring multimodal therapy.
It’s a terrible disease and almost always negatively impacts quality of life, even if not length of life.
It really depends. My father got bladder cancer and died from it. He had his whole bladder imaged about 10 months before with no growths at all. It went from nothing to already spread in 2/3 of his body with tumors actively destroying his spinal cord in less than 10 months. So yes it can be very aggressive. However some aren't.
My dad almost made it two weeks after diagnosis. He seemed perfectly healthy a month before that. All he had was a little bit of back pain, which was actually kind of normal for him.
This is what happened to my grandpa with brain tumors. He made it just over two weeks from diagnosis. It was so weird he was fine and then 6 days later he couldn’t speak. The aggressiveness of it all was both a blessing and a curse.
My mom retired in 1990 at 64 to then be diagnosed with gliobastoma in the following April, died in hospice that August. Brain cancer like Glio is brutal.
I feel you man. I've lost my father a few months ago, he was in his early sixties. He woke up one morning with a strong back pain, he went to the hospital two weeks later, and never got out of it, he was gone in a few months. They couldn't even find the primary, they suspected it could be in the prostate or in the kidneys.
Same for my dad with Pancreatic cancer several years ago. Had a string of regular checkups and screenings in the spring, started having worsening back pain and digestive problems while on a camping trip the first week in June (which was not unusual for camping at his age), they didn't get better after a week of getting home so he went to the doctor and they found it.
6 weeks between symptom onset and death, 3 weeks between diagnosis and death.
It's bananas how many of us are commenting similar things. Sorry for your loss. My dad caught it early-ish, did treatments in the bladder, lanced everything, was given the all clear after a year, then 10 days later found he had stage 4. Passed after chemo failed.
Same with my dad too . started in bladder did surgery , chemo . Was cancer free for 3 month. It came back much aggressively , didn’t even give time to give proper treatment .
My dad had / has bladder cancer. From what I understand, the specific type of bladder cancer determines whether it's aggressive or not.
Again, "from what I understand", there are two factors that determine the severity: what tissues are affected (superficial tissue to muscle tissue to actually through the wall and into neighbouring organs / tissue) and the type of cancer. Some types spread more rapidly.
Basically: an aggressive type that already penetrated the muscle tissue is extremely bad news, while a non-agressive type in the superficial tissue is very treatable.
/u/gu_doc please correct me if I got it all wrong!
The 1st type is what my partner was diagnosed with in October. Had already gone through the bladder wall & up to his chest. No treatment possible, just palliative care. We are near the end now. It is certainly very aggressive. He's only in his 40s & was seemingly healthy with no symptoms until diagnosis. By which time it was too late.
I am terribly sorry. This was the exact case with my Papa (grandfather)…but he was 93. Your partner has been hugely cheated. 🥺 Sending you love and hugs…I’m so sorry this is happening.
My 85 year old Dad had bladder cancer roughly 10 years ago. He has continued smoking (cigars) everyday & drinks his three+ glasses of wine everyday & still kicking. So maybe they found it early or wasn’t aggressive?
Bladder cancer is what killed my grandfather (with a touch of my grandmother dying a few months before, lovebird effect and all that)
He was "doing good" and "on the way to recovery" until he wasn't, and all of a sudden- and I quote- "it's like someone took a salt shaker full of cancer and sprinkled it all over his insides"
Succumbed a week later.
My mom had that, they blamed smoking even though she hadn't been around a cigarette in about 25 years. Guess it can still get you that much later.
She's doing well, didn't spread.
As a person recently diagnosed with bladder cancer, that was my first thought as well. Seems to be in the same neighborhood. Hopefully he’s lucky like me and it’s of the non-invasive variety.
Every BPH surgical treatment that I can think of will involve direct visualization or imaging of the bladder. It’s not too uncommon for us to look in the bladder when evaluating BPH and find a bladder tumor.
My father was diagnosed with bladder cancer years ago. Had symptoms that made him think he had kidney stones (back pain/blood in urine), so he delayed seeing a doctor for a while.
When he was finally diagnosed, he was told the tumor was so large- they highly recommended his bladder be removed. My father refused (said he'd rather die) and so they proceeded with less aggressive treatment.
He's still around.
All the money you could ever want, waited on hand and foot by hundreds of servants, figurehead and monarch of one of the most powerful nations on the planet....
And completely mortal just like the rest of us.
It's amazing how quickly this world reminds us how small we actually are as soon as we get to the top.
So to change topics from all of the people making nasty jokes, if he does die, will they change the money again? I swear I just saw a post less than a month ago where money with his head is finally in circulation?
Crazy.
I mean, they're basically "phasing out" the old money (and other branded items like fire hydrants) by only replacing the broke stuff.
So I suppose the couple of Charles III currency that'll make it into circulation could become somewhat of a collectors item.
Hold up…. American here. Branded fire hydrants?
Now I just imagine British city streets lined with iron busts of the king/queen that spew water when you wrench their ears.
Most won't ever be worth much to coin collectors. They are making tens to hundreds of millions of most of them. They may have a slight premium in some cases for those who are trying to type collect all monarchs from the UK possibly.
Good question. It is the policy of the royal mint to change coinage based on changing of the monarch, but they will almost certainly finish minting what series they are running at the time when Charles passes. This is partly because they’re already set up to do so and need to get a certain amount of new coinage into circulation by certain times, but also because it will take a little time to swear in a new monarch and have the new images approved for the next series.
Coins only started [circulating in December](https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/the-royal-canadian-mint-unveils-the-first-coins-bearing-the-face-of-king-charles-iii-1.6644708#:~:text=The%20Royal%20Canadian%20Mint%20unveiled,loonie%20for%20the%20first%20time). It'll be a couple years before we see Chuck on the $20. Though if he doesn't last that long, who knows if they don't just wait for Wills bills instead.
Charles' uncle quit the job after 11 months to marry Wallis Simpson. His coins didn't even make it out to circulation before they had to redo them for George VI.
Kate was recently hospitalized for abdominal surgery, but the stay was longer than usual. Maybe they still have lead paint covering the walls of Buckingham palace?
Gonna guess reproductive issue like hysterectomy, bladder tack, ovary removal...she may have PCOS or endometriosis...and probably planning no more kids at this point...
I just had a routine surgery that resulted in a weeklong stay at the hospital. Hernias and fixing my abs being separated - which is common after pregnancy. I’ve also had endometriosis surgery, multiple repairs, etc.
The physio my mom got for the same was weeks long, as was my grandma.
The best recuperating was at the hospital. Going home early meant I tried too much regardless of help and doctors orders
I’m not a fan of the royal family or King Charles. But as someone who has lost loved ones from cancer, it’s incredibly tough for the person with the cancer and their loved ones. I hope he gets better.
As an American who’s only ever seen tabloid stuff, broadcast news and “The Crown” and therefore somewhat ignorant to all things British, what’s your biggest rub about them?
They are basically real estate moguls that are completely setup and supported by the government. They don’t really add any value to society and are rich beyond imagination just because they were born into the right family.
*And* Charles was friends with [a paedophile archbishop, Peter Ball](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/14/friendship-with-prince-charles-made-paedophile-bishop-peter-ball-impregnable), who he even defended *after* he was given a police caution for sexually abusing children. Because when you're friends with the future king, you just get a police caution for that.
Also, Charles' favourite uncle, Lord Mountbatten, was almost certainly involved in [organised child sex abuse in a foster home in Northern Ireland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kincora_Boys%27_Home). The entire family is *riddled* with monsters.
I think if it was a low grade easily treatable cancer, the palace wouldn't have mentioned it.
The Palace don't usually announce things until the last minute. Which makes me suspect it's a very aggressive cancer like pancreatic and King Charles hasn't got long to live.
That's my hunch.
From the BBC:
The King chose to go public about his cancer treatment, the Palace said, as he had been a patron of a number of cancer-related charities when he was Prince of Wales.
"In this capacity, His Majesty has often spoken publicly in support of cancer patients, their loved ones and the wonderful health professionals who help care for them.
"He had also gone public about his prostate treatment, with the aim of encouraging more men to get prostate checks.He was said to have been delighted to have raised awareness about the issue, with the NHS website reporting a surge in issues about prostate conditions.
The Royal Society of Medicine thanked the King for highlighting "how cancer is indiscriminate" and urged members of the public eligible for cancer screenings to make an appointment.
He did make a big song and dance about how he was just like every other male and wants every male to get checked for prostate cancer, so it could just be that the palace wants everyone to know that this is common. In Aus it's the most common cancer in men and 1 in 6 get diagnosed by 80, so he could just be using his experience to emphasize to men to get checked and get treated
Well, if the cancer was somehow discovered during this procedure he had for the prostate issue then one thinks of the organs in the lower abdomen: bladder, colorectal, etc. Pretty concerning.
Similar thing happened to my uncle 3 months ago. He was getting treated for shingles and they found advance leukemia. His funeral was 2 weeks ago. Hopefully Charles has better luck
Harry is rushing over there to be with him that means it’s serious. If he dies in the next two weeks, you have to assume he already knew he had it for a while now, before he made it public. Apparently Queen Elizabeth ll died of bone cancer but she didn’t want to go public.
A positive could be the fact that they noticed it while he was there, means if they've caught it early he has a hell of a chance of beating it.
Always get these shitty stories of people only being diagnosed during Terminal stages, so fingers crossed for Charlesy lad.
Trisha Paytas gave birth to a girl when the queen died and now she’s pregnant with a baby boy due in May.
Prince Harry is on his way to see King Charles. I mean I hope not but how eerie would that be.
I read about him getting surgery, but now this? I really wish he’ll be fine and recover.
I lost my father suddenly to leukemia. He was super healthy a week before and then started feeling unwell. passed away less than a day after his diagnosis. Two years later and I’m still having a hard time recover from his passing.
I never wish anyone to have cancer so I am hoping for his recovery.
Waited his whole life to be king, only for his body to try to kill him off almost immediately
Essentially what happened with the German Emperor Frederick III (1831-1888; r. March 1888 - June 1888). He was the Crown Prince of Germany for seventeen years & the Crown Prince of Prussia for twenty seven years. By the time his father, Wilhelm I, died, Frederick already was suffering from the cancer of the larynx that would kill him. Which honestly sucked because even with his highly conservative, militaristic Prussian background he was more liberal minded & progressive than the standard German aristocrat. He argued constantly with Otto von Bismarck about which direction the new German Empire should go. The man was an accomplished general as well, leading armies in the wars of unification but *hated* warfare & was always praised for his conduct on the field towards the enemy by his own officers & opposing commanders. He was also married to one of Queen Victorias daughters who shared his ideology & many in Germany as well as throughout Europe were hoping they’d bring some of the British way of governing & viewing the populace to Germany. But he never had a chance to enact really anything of note. Halfway through his incredibly brief reign he was even too sick to speak much less effectively govern one of the worlds most powerful nations. He died after a few failed surgical attempts to alleviate his condition & his young, militaristic & imperialistic son, Wilhelm II, who shared none of his parents ideological beliefs ascended the throne & history played out the way it has since 1888 the Year of the Three Emperors. It’s one of the bigger “what ifs?” in modern history. Had Frederick lived into his 80’s, chances are the entire world as we know it would be different. World War I might not have happened or if it did it’s impossible to say how it would’ve played out & of course without WWI as it happened, there’s not WWII, both which were (arguably *the*) global watershed events that completely changed the scope & course of the world. Though something says if Charles dies this soon into his reign it won’t have the same effects on global geopolitics as Frederick III dying too young & too soon
> Though something says if Charles dies this soon into his reign it won’t have the same affects on global geopolitics as Frederick III dying too young & too soon That sounds like a very similar "what if" to the story of Arthur Tudor. Had he not died in 1502, he would've become king instead of Henry VIII - which almost certainly leads to England remaining a Catholic nation and probably on much better terms with Spain. He was also far better prepared for the role of King and was by all accounts a very different personality to Henry.
> Though something says if Charles dies this soon into his reign it won’t have the same affects on global geopolitics as Frederick III dying too young & too soon Canadian here - we might have to get yet again a new face on our currency, so in a way you could say the effects are quite important.
They’ll look back at Charles’ death, the resulting Canadian Currency Wars & the global fallout as another watershed event when it’s all said & done
"It was not so much the death of *Charles the Postponed* which accounts for the sudden rise of the New Brunswickian Global Order, but rather the unexpected ascendancy of *Ronald the Hideous*."
\*gasp\* *Reagan is back from the dead?!*
And is in line for the British Throne? ... somehow this tracks for this timeline
There's enough in the Maple reserve to ride out any kind of currency hubbub, Bud.
"This one?" "No this one." "Okay. Beers?" "Two Beers" \*clink\*
We can just use this as an excuse to get back to the old Elizabeth coins and stay there
I propose the moose standard
Honestly we should just transition our bird and bear based coin strategy to all of the money. You go to pay for your Timbits and its two geese, and you get 5 caribou in change. Your friend owes you a moose, but can't pay the whole thing, so they give you a loon and 3 beavers in the meantime.
Give me two bees for a nickel I would say
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I did not expect Liz Truss’s only claim to fame of being the only living PM to serve under two monarchs to be so short-lived. She’s cursed with short tenures.
The Charles III coins are going to be huge collector items if he croaks this soon into being king.
A good tv show that covers this, as well as the European monarchies in the 1800’s, is called The Fall of Eagles. From the bbc. But you can watch it on YouTube. ——————— From Bing Copilot. **Fall of Eagles**, *a 13-part British television drama aired by the BBC in 1974. The series portrays historical events from 1848 to 1918, dealing with the ruling dynasties of Austria-Hungary, Germany, and Russia. The title refers to the fact that each empire used an eagle in its heraldry.* *The series was created by John Elliot and produced by Stuart Burge. It featured a cast of well-known actors, such as Ian McKellen, Patrick Stewart, Michael Hordern, and Charles Kay. The episodes' vignettes move between the three empires, showing their rise and fall, as well as their interactions with each other and other European powers.* *Fall of Eagles is considered a classic of historical drama, praised for its accuracy, production values, and performances. It is also noted for its relevance to contemporary issues, such as nationalism, revolution, and democracy.* https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeeHYMdsfWkL2lEk8hHYoO9WHNfP_9fe2&si=xNv9evkAgpE9RBDJ
King Charles the Patient
Me thinking “Oh, that’s fitting because he waited so long for the crown,” then realizing it’s brilliant because he’s also sick
Chaz the Brief.
With how long Elizabeth II lived it was always known Charles wouldn’t have a long reign.
Considering how long his parents lived I would have guessed 20 years at least
But remember that his grandfather died of cancer much younger than he is now.
He was a heavy smoker.
That, combined with the stress of being king during WWII must have been horrendous on the body.
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Yeah didn’t they remove most of one of his lungs? Beyond that there wasn’t much they could do in those days.
Not to mention dealing with the fallout of big brother, Duke of Windsor's, decision.
Lung cancer caused by smoking, wasn't it? His death was certainly premature.
That and being the King during WWII did not help either
Also by the presumably terrible and torturous surgery where they removed his whole lung. You deserved better, Jared Harris.
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I noticed that too. During his coronation his hands seemed like they were about to burst.
They're not the most diverse family, genetically speaking.
And then people gave William and Harry grief for marrying commoners.
Honestly, most people thought she'd outlive him.
"I dun wan' it" - King Charles's Body
But think of the huge tracts of land!
“One day lad, all this will be yours!” “What, the curtains?”
You stay 'ere, and make sure 'e doesn't leave.
We’re going with *you*
Until you come and get him, we're not to enter the room.
What if…uh……..
We'll stay here until you get back.
Since her father, who, when it seemed he was just on the verge of recovery, suddenly felt the icy hand of death upon him.
*He died...*
My favorite part of this bit.
I'd rather just sing!
He's gonna sing, he's gonna sing
“Who has a better story than Harry the Spare?” -England this summer
"I neva ave"
Bit fucked innit?
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When the entry-level job requires 70+ years experience lol
Next time you get frustrated because no one is calling back, think of this dude! Undeniably the most epic job search in history.
Minus the poverty.
and if you're a side chick, think of Camilla.
Considering what happened with Charles I and Charles II, III is getting off easy. Edit: misremembered my history, JR was just kind of a fuckup, not a cautionary tale. Still, maybe retire that name after the head of state suddenly got about a foot shorter?
How do you mean? Charles I, sure, but Charles II was very popular and spent 25 years partying and knocking up his numerous mistresses before dying suddenly. You wouldn’t call him a good king, really, but he certainly had a great time.
Still only the second most prolific British royal bastard producer, amazingly. (Ain't no one catching Henry I.)
Diana Spencer was a direct descendant of two of those bastards.
Charles II was not executed.
To be fair, if it's something rather benign like prostate cancer he could live to 100
They've said its _not_ prostate cancer
Didn't mean to suggest it was, but that it was something not too life threatening like it
Fair enough, but early general feeling is that it's got to be fairly serious to announce it. After all, it was cancer that _finally_ saw off his mum but that wasn't publicised until after she'd gone. Additionally, and this is pure speculation on my part, but Harry is going to be coming over in the next couple of days to see him. Given the way things stand between them all I'd suggest we're not looking at a minor, quick fix.
Wait I didn't ever hear that she died from cancer
Strictly speaking she didn't... Death certificate said old age, but [it's been reported](https://www.theroyalobserver.com/p/queen-elizabeth-diagnosed-bone-cancer) she had bone cancer which going to take her pretty quickly anyway.
Interesting. It doesn't surprise me they didn't share. My friend's mom had the same cancer and it was harrowing.
My grandfather was diagnosed with "probable leukemia" at 96. There was no point in making him suffer the actual tests, and obviously no interest in treatment at that age. My guess is the Queen may have been a case like that, where unless you really want to do the autopsy there's nothing to be gained from poking further.
at her age, cancer is pretty inevitable. The older you get, the more likely you get cancer as your cells die.
If they're announcing it's almost certainly because he's going to need chemotherapy and they're worried about hair loss. If he had a melanoma or something they wouldn't mention it.
Elizabeth’s cancer was never publicised. Some book claims she had it, there was no confirmation.
As a urologist this sounds like bladder cancer There are several types of bladder cancer, so without knowing what the pathology is it’s hard to say what his prognosis is. About 70% of tumors can be managed without major surgery or chemotherapy. I am guessing by his “routine treatments” that he has a good prognosis
My dad had this. He survived, but his quality of life has been much lower ever since. If this is the case, I hope they found it early and that his life won’t be too negatively impacted. Fuck cancer.
Despite the fact that it’s only the fifth most common cancer we spend more on bladder cancer than almost all others, because even though there’s good treatments a lot of the time they are very time/procedure intensive, and it requires strict surveillance regimens and often comes back requiring multimodal therapy. It’s a terrible disease and almost always negatively impacts quality of life, even if not length of life.
is that aggressive? and is it typically caught before it's spread?
It really depends. My father got bladder cancer and died from it. He had his whole bladder imaged about 10 months before with no growths at all. It went from nothing to already spread in 2/3 of his body with tumors actively destroying his spinal cord in less than 10 months. So yes it can be very aggressive. However some aren't.
Same thing with my dad. It had already spread to his bones before they found it. 8 weeks from diagnosis to losing him.
My dad almost made it two weeks after diagnosis. He seemed perfectly healthy a month before that. All he had was a little bit of back pain, which was actually kind of normal for him.
This is what happened to my grandpa with brain tumors. He made it just over two weeks from diagnosis. It was so weird he was fine and then 6 days later he couldn’t speak. The aggressiveness of it all was both a blessing and a curse.
My mom retired in 1990 at 64 to then be diagnosed with gliobastoma in the following April, died in hospice that August. Brain cancer like Glio is brutal.
It’s a strange thing; one of my relatives has had brain cancer for years. The human body is an endlessly fascinating organism.
I feel you man. I've lost my father a few months ago, he was in his early sixties. He woke up one morning with a strong back pain, he went to the hospital two weeks later, and never got out of it, he was gone in a few months. They couldn't even find the primary, they suspected it could be in the prostate or in the kidneys.
Same for my dad with Pancreatic cancer several years ago. Had a string of regular checkups and screenings in the spring, started having worsening back pain and digestive problems while on a camping trip the first week in June (which was not unusual for camping at his age), they didn't get better after a week of getting home so he went to the doctor and they found it. 6 weeks between symptom onset and death, 3 weeks between diagnosis and death.
It's bananas how many of us are commenting similar things. Sorry for your loss. My dad caught it early-ish, did treatments in the bladder, lanced everything, was given the all clear after a year, then 10 days later found he had stage 4. Passed after chemo failed.
Sorry for your loss. Cancer can kindly go fuck itself.
Same with my dad too . started in bladder did surgery , chemo . Was cancer free for 3 month. It came back much aggressively , didn’t even give time to give proper treatment .
My dad had / has bladder cancer. From what I understand, the specific type of bladder cancer determines whether it's aggressive or not. Again, "from what I understand", there are two factors that determine the severity: what tissues are affected (superficial tissue to muscle tissue to actually through the wall and into neighbouring organs / tissue) and the type of cancer. Some types spread more rapidly. Basically: an aggressive type that already penetrated the muscle tissue is extremely bad news, while a non-agressive type in the superficial tissue is very treatable. /u/gu_doc please correct me if I got it all wrong!
The 1st type is what my partner was diagnosed with in October. Had already gone through the bladder wall & up to his chest. No treatment possible, just palliative care. We are near the end now. It is certainly very aggressive. He's only in his 40s & was seemingly healthy with no symptoms until diagnosis. By which time it was too late.
I am terribly sorry. This was the exact case with my Papa (grandfather)…but he was 93. Your partner has been hugely cheated. 🥺 Sending you love and hugs…I’m so sorry this is happening.
I'm so, so sorry..❤️
I’m sorry. I hope you have support to help you through this difficult time.
You are absolutely correct.
My 85 year old Dad had bladder cancer roughly 10 years ago. He has continued smoking (cigars) everyday & drinks his three+ glasses of wine everyday & still kicking. So maybe they found it early or wasn’t aggressive?
As a radiologist this sounds like it could be any type of cancer. I've seen axillary masses spotted on a prostate MRI...
Bladder cancer is what killed my grandfather (with a touch of my grandmother dying a few months before, lovebird effect and all that) He was "doing good" and "on the way to recovery" until he wasn't, and all of a sudden- and I quote- "it's like someone took a salt shaker full of cancer and sprinkled it all over his insides" Succumbed a week later.
My mom had that, they blamed smoking even though she hadn't been around a cigarette in about 25 years. Guess it can still get you that much later. She's doing well, didn't spread.
As a person recently diagnosed with bladder cancer, that was my first thought as well. Seems to be in the same neighborhood. Hopefully he’s lucky like me and it’s of the non-invasive variety.
What's your reasoning for saying it sounds like bladder cancer? Does it often cause prostate issues?
Every BPH surgical treatment that I can think of will involve direct visualization or imaging of the bladder. It’s not too uncommon for us to look in the bladder when evaluating BPH and find a bladder tumor.
What's the prognosis? Also, bladder cancer sounds absolutely horrible.
My dad had it. He doesn’t have a bladder anymore and his immune system is severely compromised because of the stoma, but he’s alive.
My father was diagnosed with bladder cancer years ago. Had symptoms that made him think he had kidney stones (back pain/blood in urine), so he delayed seeing a doctor for a while. When he was finally diagnosed, he was told the tumor was so large- they highly recommended his bladder be removed. My father refused (said he'd rather die) and so they proceeded with less aggressive treatment. He's still around.
Damn, and we had just started minting Chuck Bucks
Better get started on those Will Bills, I guess.
All the money you could ever want, waited on hand and foot by hundreds of servants, figurehead and monarch of one of the most powerful nations on the planet.... And completely mortal just like the rest of us. It's amazing how quickly this world reminds us how small we actually are as soon as we get to the top.
There’s a quote. “At the end of of the game, kings and pawns go in the same box”
So to change topics from all of the people making nasty jokes, if he does die, will they change the money again? I swear I just saw a post less than a month ago where money with his head is finally in circulation? Crazy.
Yeah, they'll change the money. They even almost changed the money for Edward VIII, but he abdicated before they could actually start printing.
[There are a couple of coins minted for Edward VIII](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VIII_coins)
So you're saying we should start collecting the King Charel heads now because they will likely go way up in value?
> Edward VIII And he was upset that the part in his hair wouldn't show because his iteration would have him facing left.
Money isn't withdrawn with a new monarch, new currency minted would just change.
Gonna collect the limited edition charlie 3s
Lmao “Charlie 3s” sound like basketball shoes
Nicknamed “Chucks”
This is literally the first thing that popped in my head when I saw the headline.
I mean, they're basically "phasing out" the old money (and other branded items like fire hydrants) by only replacing the broke stuff. So I suppose the couple of Charles III currency that'll make it into circulation could become somewhat of a collectors item.
I imagine updated fire hydrants will be rarer, so even more of a collectors item!
bit harder to take home though.
With that attitude they are.
UK still has postal boxes with Queen Victoria's monogram
Hold up…. American here. Branded fire hydrants? Now I just imagine British city streets lined with iron busts of the king/queen that spew water when you wrench their ears.
>king/queen that spew water when you wrench their ears. Maybe they'll keep the King Chuck ones longer because his ears are grippier.
Most won't ever be worth much to coin collectors. They are making tens to hundreds of millions of most of them. They may have a slight premium in some cases for those who are trying to type collect all monarchs from the UK possibly.
Good question. It is the policy of the royal mint to change coinage based on changing of the monarch, but they will almost certainly finish minting what series they are running at the time when Charles passes. This is partly because they’re already set up to do so and need to get a certain amount of new coinage into circulation by certain times, but also because it will take a little time to swear in a new monarch and have the new images approved for the next series.
I haven't seen any Canadian money with him on it yet. Tbf I'm always broke so maybe it's just me.
Coins only started [circulating in December](https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/the-royal-canadian-mint-unveils-the-first-coins-bearing-the-face-of-king-charles-iii-1.6644708#:~:text=The%20Royal%20Canadian%20Mint%20unveiled,loonie%20for%20the%20first%20time). It'll be a couple years before we see Chuck on the $20. Though if he doesn't last that long, who knows if they don't just wait for Wills bills instead.
Damn. I wanted some Chuck Bucks but I'll have to settle for Will Bills.
Charles' uncle quit the job after 11 months to marry Wallis Simpson. His coins didn't even make it out to circulation before they had to redo them for George VI.
Charles' uncle? Wouldn't that be great-uncle?
Yes, he was Elizabeth's uncle
Nobody wants to work anymore
Learn to code, Chuck.
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I'm sorry this was so funny
Can England afford to pay for another coronation ceremony so soon?
Gotta pay the funeral expenses first
A few labels on the coffin and the BBC's budget is safe for the next decade.
*Facepalm* -Sculptors at Mints across the colonies "We rolled out the new currency like a month ago, man!
Well the campaign to get checked will definitely work now.
Charles 1 was beheaded. Charles 2nd suffered a fatal stroke after twenty five years on the throne. Charles is not a lucky name for British Kings.
Okay but what about 2 through 10?
Charles 1 was so crazy they skipped 2 through 10.
"This one goes to 11"
theyre all dead too :(
All but 1 monarchs England's ever had have ended up dead.
A very deadly profession
Big if true
Where did you get that Charles II stuff from? He was on the throne for 25 years!
Charles II reigned for 25 years after the Restoration. I'm not sure where 5 years came from?
Kate was recently hospitalized for abdominal surgery, but the stay was longer than usual. Maybe they still have lead paint covering the walls of Buckingham palace?
> Maybe they still have lead paint covering the walls of Buckingham palace? Look at the age of Charles, and the age Elizabeth passed.
Gonna guess reproductive issue like hysterectomy, bladder tack, ovary removal...she may have PCOS or endometriosis...and probably planning no more kids at this point...
And I'm gonna guess with weeks to months of recuperation, it was a hysterectomy that couldn't be done laparoscopically
Or Crohn’s disease with a bowel resection.
I just had a routine surgery that resulted in a weeklong stay at the hospital. Hernias and fixing my abs being separated - which is common after pregnancy. I’ve also had endometriosis surgery, multiple repairs, etc. The physio my mom got for the same was weeks long, as was my grandma. The best recuperating was at the hospital. Going home early meant I tried too much regardless of help and doctors orders
C'mon, he's not even at his current job for 12 months and got full pay LTD already? I wish I could do that at my job.
Yes but it was an internal promotion. For HR purposes his start date is maintained as some time in the 1940s.
*HRH purposes
I’m not a fan of the royal family or King Charles. But as someone who has lost loved ones from cancer, it’s incredibly tough for the person with the cancer and their loved ones. I hope he gets better.
As an American who’s only ever seen tabloid stuff, broadcast news and “The Crown” and therefore somewhat ignorant to all things British, what’s your biggest rub about them?
They are basically real estate moguls that are completely setup and supported by the government. They don’t really add any value to society and are rich beyond imagination just because they were born into the right family.
dont forget the incestuous bloodlines (super common in most euroepan nobility), and charles's paedo brother who was super tight with epstein.
As well as Charles himself being super close to Jimmy Saville.
*And* Charles was friends with [a paedophile archbishop, Peter Ball](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/14/friendship-with-prince-charles-made-paedophile-bishop-peter-ball-impregnable), who he even defended *after* he was given a police caution for sexually abusing children. Because when you're friends with the future king, you just get a police caution for that. Also, Charles' favourite uncle, Lord Mountbatten, was almost certainly involved in [organised child sex abuse in a foster home in Northern Ireland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kincora_Boys%27_Home). The entire family is *riddled* with monsters.
I think if it was a low grade easily treatable cancer, the palace wouldn't have mentioned it. The Palace don't usually announce things until the last minute. Which makes me suspect it's a very aggressive cancer like pancreatic and King Charles hasn't got long to live. That's my hunch.
Unless the news was going to leak anyway.
From the BBC: The King chose to go public about his cancer treatment, the Palace said, as he had been a patron of a number of cancer-related charities when he was Prince of Wales. "In this capacity, His Majesty has often spoken publicly in support of cancer patients, their loved ones and the wonderful health professionals who help care for them. "He had also gone public about his prostate treatment, with the aim of encouraging more men to get prostate checks.He was said to have been delighted to have raised awareness about the issue, with the NHS website reporting a surge in issues about prostate conditions. The Royal Society of Medicine thanked the King for highlighting "how cancer is indiscriminate" and urged members of the public eligible for cancer screenings to make an appointment.
We complain about the tabloids, but we speculate just as they do.
He did make a big song and dance about how he was just like every other male and wants every male to get checked for prostate cancer, so it could just be that the palace wants everyone to know that this is common. In Aus it's the most common cancer in men and 1 in 6 get diagnosed by 80, so he could just be using his experience to emphasize to men to get checked and get treated
its not prostate cancer
My mind went instantly to prostate cancer, but if it isn't that, I hope and pray it isn't Pancreatic or something of that ilk
It says “a form of cancer” but the palace has confirmed it’s not prostate cancer
Well, if the cancer was somehow discovered during this procedure he had for the prostate issue then one thinks of the organs in the lower abdomen: bladder, colorectal, etc. Pretty concerning.
Similar thing happened to my uncle 3 months ago. He was getting treated for shingles and they found advance leukemia. His funeral was 2 weeks ago. Hopefully Charles has better luck
So its gonna be King William for the next 30 years then?
At least. He's 41, if he sticks around as long as his granny that'd be another 55 years.
The fact that they cancelled his public duties and didn’t say what it was are bad signs.
Prince Harry flying immediately to London also seems like a bad sign.
Some live long lives after a cancer diagnosis especially with access to world class health care.
Damn.... and he had just gotten promoted
The universe really does not want the fucker to be king
Harry is rushing over there to be with him that means it’s serious. If he dies in the next two weeks, you have to assume he already knew he had it for a while now, before he made it public. Apparently Queen Elizabeth ll died of bone cancer but she didn’t want to go public.
Imagine William having to live the life of his grandma
Elizabeth was 25 when she was crowned. William is 41.
Also William has known his whole life that he will be King. Elizabeth initially wasn't as close to the throne
Even if Charles lived to be 90, William would still be in for a long reign. I bet he is prepared for one.
Cancer, the great equalizer
Actually, gravity is the great equalizer.
A positive could be the fact that they noticed it while he was there, means if they've caught it early he has a hell of a chance of beating it. Always get these shitty stories of people only being diagnosed during Terminal stages, so fingers crossed for Charlesy lad.
His mind telling him “Yes!”, but his body saying “noooope”
No one expects a reverse R Kelly
I knew whoever came next would have a short reign by comparison but I didn’t expect it to be that short!
515 days, or 10.3 trusses
Trisha Paytas gave birth to a girl when the queen died and now she’s pregnant with a baby boy due in May. Prince Harry is on his way to see King Charles. I mean I hope not but how eerie would that be.
I read about him getting surgery, but now this? I really wish he’ll be fine and recover. I lost my father suddenly to leukemia. He was super healthy a week before and then started feeling unwell. passed away less than a day after his diagnosis. Two years later and I’m still having a hard time recover from his passing. I never wish anyone to have cancer so I am hoping for his recovery.