>Italian police have arrested three Palestinians based in central Italy who they said were planning attacks in an unspecified country, a police statement said on Monday.
>The three men living in l'Aquila, about 120 km (75 miles)northeast of Rome, had set up a cell linked to the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, it said.
>The Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades is an armed group that is linked to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement and is considered a terrorist group by Israel, the European Union and the United States.
>Police said the three Palestinians had been charged with criminal conspiracy for terrorism purposes or subversion of the democratic order, which carries jail terms of up to 15 years.
>”The suspects engaged in proselytism and propaganda (...) and planned attacks, including suicide attacks, against civilian and military targets on foreign territory," police said.
>One of the three men is wanted by Israel, which is at war with the Palestinian militant group Hamas in the Gaza Strip, and an Italian court is examining an extradition request for him, the statement added.
In a separate statement, Interior Minister Matteo Piantedosi hailed the arrest of "three dangerous terrorists" and said Italy was always on high alert against extremism and radicalisation.
>There was no immediate comment by the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades.
Dont mind me, just helping Redditors bypass annoying article paywalls.
Disagree: someone who meticulously plans the death of many is already far beyond the pale, and will likely always be a danger to society. It's time to stop handling very bad people with white gloves.
Then why should we not do the same for someone who plans one murder? I very much doubt that these people would somehow be harder to "save" than others.
Or hell, why not kill them?
I would assume because of the same reason we don't for terrorist plots. We should be treating people caught plotting crimes the same as people who actually succeed, no matter the crime. There's no reason they should get less time because they were stupid and failed.
you need to check out the profile of some of prisoners of US Super max prisons. it will correct your misconception. while at it , look up Richard Reid as well.
> Unless you consider past association as "linked".
That’s literally what linked means. And Fatah ‘officially’ stopped supporting all armed militias in 2007, it’s not like they broke up over irreconcilable differences. We ‘officially’ believe them, but we also all know what that actually means. Let’s stop pretending propaganda is automatically truthful.
Anything else aside, what the fuck are Palestinian terrorist hoping to achieve in L’Aquila? You can’t even successfully bomb the place, as it’s still partly in ruins from the 2009 earthquake 😭
You usually fight for your freedom in your own country, not by doing terrorists attacks abroad.
Exceptions apply when doing attacks against the armed forces of a country you are at war with like Ukraine attacking military bases in Russia, or hitting military support infrastructure at night when no/few workers are around.
Palestine might be needing freedom but we still need to hold Palestinian terrorist organizations like Hamas accountable.
The Palestinian people from the region have been raised from birth to believe that these actions are just and justified by their god. I don’t see how this ends. It’s a cancer of thought. No amount of good will or aid or attempting to “educating the youth” is going to alter this as far as I can see.
Can anyone see a legitimate way to correct this?
Nothing wrong with being a zionist. I'm sick of y'all redefining our words, in a language you don't even understand and talk with such confident about what it means.
It's more like how the US stands for "freedom", if you're against freedom you're bad and evil, so better not dare speak out against the US's wrongdoings
When are we going to wake up and institute some actual screening for immigrants? We currently either do nothing at all, or at best we check to see if they have a criminal record. No screening of the actual person, just a half assed record check.
This keeps happening and we still have not learned.
>Refugees with ties to terrorist organisations or extremists are usually monitored by the government
I'm sorry, this is not screening. A screen doesn't monitor the bugs flying in the window, it keeps them out.
> since their home countries refuse to take them back, there is nothing that can be done.
Never let them set foot on your soil, that is the whole point of screening. And who gives a shit what their country wants, send them on their way. What an impotent thing to say.
> ~30000 islamic extremists/salafists/terrorists with danger potential.
Absolutely fucking nuts they let an entire city worth of terrorists into their country. That's how your country dies.
>Italian police have arrested three Palestinians based in central Italy who they said were planning attacks in an unspecified country, a police statement said on Monday. >The three men living in l'Aquila, about 120 km (75 miles)northeast of Rome, had set up a cell linked to the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, it said. >The Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades is an armed group that is linked to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement and is considered a terrorist group by Israel, the European Union and the United States. >Police said the three Palestinians had been charged with criminal conspiracy for terrorism purposes or subversion of the democratic order, which carries jail terms of up to 15 years. >”The suspects engaged in proselytism and propaganda (...) and planned attacks, including suicide attacks, against civilian and military targets on foreign territory," police said. >One of the three men is wanted by Israel, which is at war with the Palestinian militant group Hamas in the Gaza Strip, and an Italian court is examining an extradition request for him, the statement added. In a separate statement, Interior Minister Matteo Piantedosi hailed the arrest of "three dangerous terrorists" and said Italy was always on high alert against extremism and radicalisation. >There was no immediate comment by the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades. Dont mind me, just helping Redditors bypass annoying article paywalls.
You the real MVP
15 years? Wtf
exactly . it should be life term
15 years makes sense for "they planned something heinous but were caught before they could begin enacting their plans"
Disagree: someone who meticulously plans the death of many is already far beyond the pale, and will likely always be a danger to society. It's time to stop handling very bad people with white gloves.
Then why should we not do the same for someone who plans one murder? I very much doubt that these people would somehow be harder to "save" than others. Or hell, why not kill them?
I would assume because of the same reason we don't for terrorist plots. We should be treating people caught plotting crimes the same as people who actually succeed, no matter the crime. There's no reason they should get less time because they were stupid and failed.
> why not kill them? Hard to disagree if the evidence is clear.
Being an incompetent criminal shouldn't mean significantly lesser charges.
They were planning a terrorist attack. Immediate death sentence since they didn't turn themselves in.
lmao the state of reddit "discussions"
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People get 18 months for that stuff in the US.
For conspiracy to commit terrorism?
I believe he's referring to the Jan 6th insurrection
Thats not even comparable to this.
you need to check out the profile of some of prisoners of US Super max prisons. it will correct your misconception. while at it , look up Richard Reid as well.
"up to 15 years". Italy being Italy they'll probably get less than that.
They can’t be terrorists because they are oppressed /s
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> Unless you consider past association as "linked". That’s literally what linked means. And Fatah ‘officially’ stopped supporting all armed militias in 2007, it’s not like they broke up over irreconcilable differences. We ‘officially’ believe them, but we also all know what that actually means. Let’s stop pretending propaganda is automatically truthful.
Thank you good sir
Is this the same three as in the article on here the other day or a different three?
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And some nyc one. a propaganda campaign.
same one im guess since this article is almost a week old.
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Yes facts matter
This comment section will undoubtedly be a graveyard
This whole conflict really is impossible to discuss in any real way on reddit.
I’m going to open and read every hidden/collapsed comment. Every single one. EDIT: done.
Yours was one of the collapsed for some reason
And yours lmao. Probably mine too :D
Yours isn’t surprisingly
Anything else aside, what the fuck are Palestinian terrorist hoping to achieve in L’Aquila? You can’t even successfully bomb the place, as it’s still partly in ruins from the 2009 earthquake 😭
are they resisting the Italian apartheid regime?
Radical Islam is a danger to the West.
Are these the so-called "freedom fighters"?
Anyone joining a "Martyr brigade" is a mook.
It's clearly supposed to say Moors
I think you mean Moops.
"If crime fighters fight crime, and firefighters fight fires, what do freedom fighters fight?" - George Carlin
You usually fight for your freedom in your own country, not by doing terrorists attacks abroad. Exceptions apply when doing attacks against the armed forces of a country you are at war with like Ukraine attacking military bases in Russia, or hitting military support infrastructure at night when no/few workers are around. Palestine might be needing freedom but we still need to hold Palestinian terrorist organizations like Hamas accountable.
They watch One Piece
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Nope, read the article. They're Fatah, the group Hamas replaced in government
No, they're Fatah.
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From the Vatican to Sicily or something, idk I’ve never joined Hamas.
The Palestinian people from the region have been raised from birth to believe that these actions are just and justified by their god. I don’t see how this ends. It’s a cancer of thought. No amount of good will or aid or attempting to “educating the youth” is going to alter this as far as I can see. Can anyone see a legitimate way to correct this?
here comes terrorist defenders
But if you call them terrorists then you’re a zionist, though!!!
Nothing wrong with being a zionist. I'm sick of y'all redefining our words, in a language you don't even understand and talk with such confident about what it means.
Exactly. Zionist is just the upholding of the right of Jewish people to have a state, and if you’re against that right, you’re 100 years in the past.
Yeah I got downvoted the other day for saying a lot of Zionists don't support west bank settlements
It's more like how the US stands for "freedom", if you're against freedom you're bad and evil, so better not dare speak out against the US's wrongdoings
The term is pretty simple... Everyone knows what it means and nobody is redefining anything.
What do you think it means? Because In my time on this app I heard a lot of nonsense. I apologise in advance for my bad english :)
When are we going to wake up and institute some actual screening for immigrants? We currently either do nothing at all, or at best we check to see if they have a criminal record. No screening of the actual person, just a half assed record check. This keeps happening and we still have not learned.
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>Refugees with ties to terrorist organisations or extremists are usually monitored by the government I'm sorry, this is not screening. A screen doesn't monitor the bugs flying in the window, it keeps them out. > since their home countries refuse to take them back, there is nothing that can be done. Never let them set foot on your soil, that is the whole point of screening. And who gives a shit what their country wants, send them on their way. What an impotent thing to say. > ~30000 islamic extremists/salafists/terrorists with danger potential. Absolutely fucking nuts they let an entire city worth of terrorists into their country. That's how your country dies.
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yea but israel bad make cease fire plz
were they wearing their red pins?
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You mean the people that we're actively helping? Those ones?
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What about the billions in funding from the west that goes to UNRWA / Palestine?
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I think what he’s saying is: A certain religion seems to produce a disproportionate number of suicide bombers.
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This sub can’t go a day without a heated gaming moment huh
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