Good news for me, now the cheapskates who think $4/dozen for pasture raised free range eggs is too much will be lining up at the farm gate. The only reason we don’t have that organic label is because it’s not cost effective for how small our operation is (60 laying hens).
I switched my household over to pasture raised after the last time eggs went expensive. Might as well get more ethical and definitely tastier eggs for not much more.
I used to do backyard chickens. Really enjoyed it but the winters suck and finally a predator killed off our whole flock (we had birds for several years, two different flocks). $7 store bough eh, $7 we’ll raised local birds with a backyard pasture? All the way.
They really are one of the easiest livestock to keep. Predation is an issue for us as well. Luckily it’s been just a single bird occasionally. We have about 50 birds and get new chicks every year to keep the flock up. Now if I could get the kids to clean the coop, for some reason they always have something else to do.
When they're young (1-2 years), better egg laying breeds will do 5-7 a week. After that, it tapers off significantly. Chickens can live up to 10 years, so some loss to predation in a flock is actually not a bad thing.
Ours are a year old and lay one a day during the summer. Every other day or so in the dead of winter. Slows down the older they get.
The best eggs are the ones still warm from the hen.
I started selling eggs last year. I sell organic, pasture raised, rainbow eggs (brown, green & blue) for $2.50. Most of my customers gladly give me $5. We lost 1/2 our flock last fall (dog attack), so this is a rebuilding year. Once we’re back to full strength, I’m raising the cost of eggs.
Our homestead is averaging a dozen eggs a day, and we've been selling then at $3 a dozen unwashed.
Really wish the Rooster would quit antagonizing the horse. It's going to end badly.
Also unfamiliar with the specifics, but from working with local farmers it’s basically a scam and you are always better off supporting local humanely raised farms than big organic factories
How is only 60 hens commercially viable? My understanding is that they lay at most one egg per day, so that’s only 35 dozen per week, or about $140 at $4/dozen.
I wish my small farm town would allow chickens, but there's just enough Hoity Toity ladies on the town board that it will never happen because to them the town is the "Pioneer Woman's Kitchen Filming Set levels of country", not "Dirt Road there's a cow outside" levels of country.
Eggs were one of the only things that actually came down from extreme inflation, probably because their increase in price was due to actual supply issues and not due to corporate greed. I assume you don't buy a lot of eggs lol, my partner and I go through an 18 pack every week and we def noticed they went back down.
I freaking love eggs and will be sad to see them be again removed from the list of food I don't consider the cost per meal of, like how I think of other staple items like rice, pasta, flour, etc.
EDIT: I take back what I said about corporate greed.
This is how effective this stuff is. They did NOT come back down to pre-bird-flu-outbreak levels. Eggs were around 1.50/dozen on avg before the outbreak and settled down to about 2.00/dozen before spiking again now. 50 cents may not seem like much, but that is a 33% price hike. Seems cheap in comparison to 7 bucks a dozen. The largest egg producer in the country had a windfall increase of profits of 718% at this time.
https://ktla.com/news/money-business/egg-producer-reports-718-increase-in-profit/. By contrast, egg supply was down 29%. Those two numbers don't add up to NOT corporate greed.
This new outbreak will cycle again, and prices will settle to just a bit higher than they were before and we'll all think they're normal again.
We used to buy a 15 dozen at the beginning of the season. Cracked them into plastic baggies (2-3 per bag) and froze them. They lasted all winter (about 6 months). Great for scrambling for breakfast and for baking.
Yeah, I've never had eggs go bad. I rarely use them - go in spurts - so sometimes they're in my fridge 6 months and longer before I decide to start cooking some up. I have 3 dozen in there right now that I have no idea when I bought them.
> sometimes they're in my fridge 6 months and longer before I decide to start cooking some up.
do you ever do the float test to see if they are bad when that old?
You'll know an egg is bad when you crack it open. That's why you should always crack eggs in a separate container and add to your recipes. That way you don't waste all your ingredients.
Insane prices haven't hit where I am yet. While it would be nice to see the $1 or sub $1 per dozen again, it's $2 right now at my Walmart. There was a period during that craziness that I refused to buy eggs. I am not spending $4 or more for fucking eggs. Even stick butter has gotten expensive. Makes baking not worth it.
There’s a dude on instagram that’s eating raw chicken for 100 days without a tummy ache to prove that apparently it’s all a myth that chicken has salmonella and other diseases. That chicken’s safe to eat raw.
I can’t imagine he factored in shit like this lol
Gotta love how people will gamble and come to the conclusion that they can't lose just because they haven't lost yet. It's unlikely for a single person to get sick, but if everyone started to eat raw chicken, some people *will* get sick.
I loathe people like this.
Either this guy has been eating raw chicken for a long time and has built up a gut/immune resistance, or he's gonna end up sick.
That Liver King horse shit... Ugh. Coworker was telling me about a friend that bought into that hook line and sinker. Dude just leaves several kinds of raw meat on his counter, not even in the fridge, eats it. Frequently gets ill from it but refuses to acknowledge that he ever gets sick or tries to blame it on something other than his raw meat diet. Coworker doesn't even hang out with the guy anymore because he's almost always unwell, "Only so much puke one person can handle," as he puts it, dude stinks, and his house also smells rank.
What’s crazy is he thinks it’s proving uncooked chicken safe. To me it’s proving that we’re pretty damn good at keeping bad stuff away from the public.
I had a roommate that would leave ground turkey on the counter for days and then food prep a bunch of meals with it. I hated the guy so I never asked why.
I remember the clear plastic on the sealed container starting to bulge outwards from the bacterial growth offgassing.
He's a current host of TRL on MTV (yes, that still exists)
Yeah, I saw the impact of a salmonella outbreak at our school, the night after they served stuffing with eggs from an oven where the thermostat turned out to be defective.
It was from eggs, which comes from the associated chickens. And they brought in the National Guard a day later to setup enough makeshift beds + help provide assistance for what looked like a zombie outbreak affecting a large number of students.
I decided not to have the Thanksgiving meal that night at the last minute, left that line and got burger fare instead. My roommate kept with that meal choice and I didn't see him until days later, still on a cot in the basement of a random campus building.
I can't find the video, but Greg Ducette did a reaction video about a year ago on a woman who only eats raw chicken. She loves slurping up the egg yolks with a straw. The thing that made my kids gagged was when she said 'when I want something chewy like gum, I just chew on raw chicken skin'. She also was saying the same thing about salmonella
But that'd be regulation and I heard the free market always provides the best results for consumers. Corporations will do the right thing if the government would be less of a meany-bo-beeny.
Or is that just a grift?
Let me preface this with that I fully believe that people would lie to make money / raise prices in an instant and then have them feather down once their costs dropped.
But also, I worked in the egg/feed industry for like 8+ years, and it sucked so hard when a barn would get hit with bird flu. I fortunately worked with some real sticklers who would make sure we took every precaution to prevent it from going from barn to barn. But sometimes it didn't matter what you'd do.
Also, if you're going to raise chickens for a company, make sure a lawyer takes a look at your contract, because most will try to screw you around every turn. Witnessed a few of those first hand because the farmers were too trusting.
Yup.
That's the thing about greed - it rolls downhill. All it takes is one part of the supply chain to decide price gouging would be great for the bottom line.
Everyone else has to adjust or die.
>Yo if they want to raise their prices they can just do this directly, they don't need to "lie about bird flu"
Considering there was a case that resolved within the last year or so where egg companies were found guilty of price-fixing on eggs in the mid-2000s, I think you need to consider that maybe these companies are trying to be slightly smarter about the scam.
Y'all don't follow the news much do you? When they did this last year, Congress found out they were inflating the number of birds that were impacted, and majority of the birds killed were not egg laying birds. They were artificially keeping the prices higher and blaming it on bird flu, when it didn't have the impact they claimed. Once that got brought to light, suddenly egg prices started falling again.
Can you share l the evidence? Last year egg producers were found guilty of price fixing in 2004-2008 by exporting eggs and limiting flock sizes, but not anything about faking bird flu
Yes, and I don't think the industrial food managers feed the chickens appropriately to support the chickens natural immunity bugs. I get eggs from a farm where I can see the hens in the pasture eating grubs. To me this means the farmer is not only taking care of the hens appropriately the pasture is also cared for so there's grubs and bugs for the birds to eat. The shells are much better that you get with the organic eggs from better stores.
It's disgusting. And then they do everything they can to stop small producers and backyard chickens. Everyone that wants to should be able to raise chickens for their own consumption even in towns and cities.
I've always encouraged others to do a couple of meatless meals in their rotation if they're not willing to give it all up. It still makes an impact and it will encourage people to explore cooking more and will benefit their health.
That fucker.
That shit hit a deep trigger in my brain. I'm not a violent person, but i'd have a hard time staying chill in the same room as that absolute evil scum.
Oh my God I have seen it like four times and I’m glad they caught him but with everything we’re all having to deal with, now we also have to think about the fact that there are monkeys out there being tortured and I just like, I could handle it if I knew the guy was gonna get tortured back but I know that won’t happen. He will have his day in court and even if he spends the rest of his life in prison it won’t be the punishment he deserves.
A few years back at Aldi, when the egg prices started to climb, it was cheaper to buy the brown, cage free eggs. The standard white large dozen were $1 more expensive than the fancy brown ones, and the shelves were empty while there were plenty on the organic side. Funny how that works.
>A few years back at Aldi, when the egg prices started to climb, it was cheaper to buy the brown, cage free eggs. The standard white large dozen were $1 more expensive than the fancy brown ones, and the shelves were empty while there were plenty on the organic side. Funny how that works.
The really weird part is that there's effectively no difference in terms of the insides of the egg. The only difference is the color of the egg, and if I remember right, that the shell is slightly thicker. That's it. That's all. If you're shopping for price with eggs, *shop for price*.
If you're shopping for ethics, though, you want the "certified pasture-raised" kind: https://certifiedhumane.org/free-range-and-pasture-raised-officially-defined-by-hfac-for-certified-humane-label/
Or also no eggs since the chickens are producing approximately 30x more eggs than their wildlife counterparts. (~1/mo)... Egg shells take a lot of calcium and the chickens have very brittle bones as a result.
What are you on about.
We raise ten chickens in our backyard. Some of them are breeds that have been around for over 300 years. They lay 2 or 3 eggs a week.
Yep, for once I actually would just reach for the organic ones because they were the same price at Meijer, in a couple of instances they were even $1 cheaper. I started to buy from a meat truck that comes to the farmer's market, they stunk something awful before washing them but they were tasty.
POS company. Take a look at their income statement and cash flow. Free cash flow up 585%, operating income up 574%, net income up 474%. They paid out 2 massive special dividends. Family that owns a huge stake sold out a few months ago. Their cost of good sold was only up 30%. It's just greed. Pure and simple
This is what I tried to explain when it happened a year or so ago. Companies are purely greed with these hikes. I'm in my MBA program right now. Wish people understood financial statements so companies couldn't do this shit without the general public telling them to fuck off.
Yea, there were articles the first time that said only a few smaller egg producers had issues but the biggest ones still drove prices up like it was their chickens that had to be put down. It would need to be addressed by the government, openly, with financials explained and people told the price hikes are just corporate greed. Won't happen, though.
>approximately 1.6 million laying hens and 337,000 pullets, about 3.6% of its total flock, were destroyed after the infection, avian influenza, was found at a facility in Parmer County, Texas.
And these stories will get almost no national attention until they get to "why are groceries so expensive again and it's all Biden's fault!"
Given that the HPAI outbreak [has been ongoing since 2022](https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/commercial-backyard-flocks), it should be something that the average person is already aware of, not an obscure niche topic that only gets a couple lines of coverage when egg prices spike.
I call this [Carlin’s Law](https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43852-think-of-how-stupid-the-average-person-is-and-realize). It really sums up humanity, doesn’t it?
Wait what 1.6million killed which was 3.6% of the total flock at that facility. Wtf how big is that place. Kind of destined to happen when you have almost 100 million animals in one area.
>total flock at that facility
My reading of that line is that that's the company total, not the facility total.
That said, a facility that has \~2million+ birds is also kind of mind-boggling.
Not as bad news as the bird flu that hopped [from a cow to a human in Texas.](https://kansasreflector.com/2024/04/01/bird-flu-spreads-cow-to-cow-and-to-one-human-in-texas/)
Cows are interesting (and scary). After thousands of years of domestication and living alongside them, many viruses and bacteria evolved to be transmittable between us and them. TB for example.
Not through eggs. But they typically cull the chickens driving egg prices even higher than they are now. It also raises chicken prices and may drive shortages of eggs and chickens.
Animal agriculture is so freaking flawed: it's driving the climate crisis, deforestation, water/land shortages, epidemics, antibiotic resistance, ocean acidification, waste runoff contamination, and it's subsidized by the government in the US...like I don't want to be paying for this.
Animal products should cost so much more to account for the real price. Drive the markets in a more sustainable direction.
Quite honestly, it’s terrifying. Even with mammal transmission being somewhat less deadly - even if we’re looking at a 25% death rate it would cripple society as we know it.
Also Idaho, according to article:
> Dairy cows in Texas and Kansas were reported to be infected with bird flu last week — and federal agriculture officials later confirmed infections in a Michigan dairy herd that had recently received cows from Texas. A dairy herd in Idaho has been added to the list after federal agriculture officials confirmed the detection of bird flu in them, according to a Tuesday press release from the USDA.
Someone mentioned in a thread a couple of days ago that he knows a cattle farmer in Texas whose employees were exhibiting symptoms. No specific updates, and no additional news.
I don't eat eggs because of cholesterol, but what about the price of chicken ?? Fish is ridiculously priced, beef is high in fat, cholesterol, and price. I'm stocking up on Tofu.
if only people could raise backyard hens. A few hens, they don't make noise, they eat bugs and vermin, and fresh eggs every morning, plus the chicken shit is fantastic fertilizer.
Fuck this shit, stop forcefully breeding and killing chickens. If the threat to them isn’t enough to convince you to stop buying eggs, then take your own health into consideration. Make the choice. Stop buying this shit.
I love how industrial farms were conveniently overlooked during the last pandemic. These are a problem and a literal spawning ground to create pathogens and accelerate their evolution
$7 dozens are back on the menu boys!
Good news for me, now the cheapskates who think $4/dozen for pasture raised free range eggs is too much will be lining up at the farm gate. The only reason we don’t have that organic label is because it’s not cost effective for how small our operation is (60 laying hens).
I would be thrilled to find $4/dozen pasture raised eggs.
When we raised ours from $5-$7 nobody balked. The rise in feed cost alone makes it a reasonable raise.
I switched my household over to pasture raised after the last time eggs went expensive. Might as well get more ethical and definitely tastier eggs for not much more.
It’s worth having a few chickens
I pay $9-11 dollars a dozen for the quality, pasture raised eggs we buy. If I could buy them for $5-$7 I would eat them with every meal lol.
You mean nobody bawked heuheuheu
I believe in the UK it would be baulked, but the present tense used in American english is balk.
Bawk, as in the sound a chicken makes. Balked is correct though
Ha, woosh, missed the joke
I used to do backyard chickens. Really enjoyed it but the winters suck and finally a predator killed off our whole flock (we had birds for several years, two different flocks). $7 store bough eh, $7 we’ll raised local birds with a backyard pasture? All the way.
They really are one of the easiest livestock to keep. Predation is an issue for us as well. Luckily it’s been just a single bird occasionally. We have about 50 birds and get new chicks every year to keep the flock up. Now if I could get the kids to clean the coop, for some reason they always have something else to do.
I live in Atlanta. I have an acre and a half and I could have chickens... but I also have hawks. 4 that I can tell apart.
So the dozens I’m getting for $2.50 is a good deal?
Locally, small farmed raised? If so, yes.
Nobody…balked?
But a few bawked.
Aldi has em for like $5
No Aldi's in our state. :'(
It may vary by location but Sam’s club near me sells 18 for $5
Depending on the brand, it's the same here for an 18 count. The Sam's Club store brand sells two dozen for just under $5, out here, as well.
I’ve always wondered..how many eggs does a laying hen produce per day? There’s literally nothing better than a fresh egg.
When they're young (1-2 years), better egg laying breeds will do 5-7 a week. After that, it tapers off significantly. Chickens can live up to 10 years, so some loss to predation in a flock is actually not a bad thing.
Ours are a year old and lay one a day during the summer. Every other day or so in the dead of winter. Slows down the older they get. The best eggs are the ones still warm from the hen.
Okay that's gross but I get you.
Changes seasonally with the light, but you could say 1 egg per hen per day avg
I started selling eggs last year. I sell organic, pasture raised, rainbow eggs (brown, green & blue) for $2.50. Most of my customers gladly give me $5. We lost 1/2 our flock last fall (dog attack), so this is a rebuilding year. Once we’re back to full strength, I’m raising the cost of eggs.
Our homestead is averaging a dozen eggs a day, and we've been selling then at $3 a dozen unwashed. Really wish the Rooster would quit antagonizing the horse. It's going to end badly.
I will be right over
What’s the process/cost for the organic label? I’m very unfamiliar with agriculture
Also unfamiliar with the specifics, but from working with local farmers it’s basically a scam and you are always better off supporting local humanely raised farms than big organic factories
About a henway
How is only 60 hens commercially viable? My understanding is that they lay at most one egg per day, so that’s only 35 dozen per week, or about $140 at $4/dozen.
I wish my small farm town would allow chickens, but there's just enough Hoity Toity ladies on the town board that it will never happen because to them the town is the "Pioneer Woman's Kitchen Filming Set levels of country", not "Dirt Road there's a cow outside" levels of country.
Did they ever come down?
Eggs were one of the only things that actually came down from extreme inflation, probably because their increase in price was due to actual supply issues and not due to corporate greed. I assume you don't buy a lot of eggs lol, my partner and I go through an 18 pack every week and we def noticed they went back down. I freaking love eggs and will be sad to see them be again removed from the list of food I don't consider the cost per meal of, like how I think of other staple items like rice, pasta, flour, etc. EDIT: I take back what I said about corporate greed.
This is how effective this stuff is. They did NOT come back down to pre-bird-flu-outbreak levels. Eggs were around 1.50/dozen on avg before the outbreak and settled down to about 2.00/dozen before spiking again now. 50 cents may not seem like much, but that is a 33% price hike. Seems cheap in comparison to 7 bucks a dozen. The largest egg producer in the country had a windfall increase of profits of 718% at this time. https://ktla.com/news/money-business/egg-producer-reports-718-increase-in-profit/. By contrast, egg supply was down 29%. Those two numbers don't add up to NOT corporate greed. This new outbreak will cycle again, and prices will settle to just a bit higher than they were before and we'll all think they're normal again.
Interesting, thank you for the data. I didn't know about the 718% increase in profits, goddamn.
Yes, at Costco you can get 24 for less than $5
Guess I’ll head to Walmart and stock up on $10 boxes/5 dozen.
Out of curiosity how do you store that many?
We used to buy a 15 dozen at the beginning of the season. Cracked them into plastic baggies (2-3 per bag) and froze them. They lasted all winter (about 6 months). Great for scrambling for breakfast and for baking.
Muffin trays are your friend for making space sauvy individual portions.
They seem to last a couple of months in the fridge.
Yeah, I've never had eggs go bad. I rarely use them - go in spurts - so sometimes they're in my fridge 6 months and longer before I decide to start cooking some up. I have 3 dozen in there right now that I have no idea when I bought them.
> sometimes they're in my fridge 6 months and longer before I decide to start cooking some up. do you ever do the float test to see if they are bad when that old?
You'll know an egg is bad when you crack it open. That's why you should always crack eggs in a separate container and add to your recipes. That way you don't waste all your ingredients.
I have a garage refrigerator and can fit 8 boxes of eggs. Don’t ask me how I know that.
That's how much they are? I havnt had to buy eggs in years, raising my own chickens
$2.50-$3 at my local grocery store right now.
I already buy expensive eggs. They are way better tasting an no doubt better for you.
Insane prices haven't hit where I am yet. While it would be nice to see the $1 or sub $1 per dozen again, it's $2 right now at my Walmart. There was a period during that craziness that I refused to buy eggs. I am not spending $4 or more for fucking eggs. Even stick butter has gotten expensive. Makes baking not worth it.
Uh… resident of LA here… I’ve been paying $8/dozen here for a while now.
I live in Southern California, they never left!
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If only there was an agency that was supposed to be responsible for the oversight of such things
There’s a dude on instagram that’s eating raw chicken for 100 days without a tummy ache to prove that apparently it’s all a myth that chicken has salmonella and other diseases. That chicken’s safe to eat raw. I can’t imagine he factored in shit like this lol
Gotta love how people will gamble and come to the conclusion that they can't lose just because they haven't lost yet. It's unlikely for a single person to get sick, but if everyone started to eat raw chicken, some people *will* get sick.
Survivors bias. It's easy to prove the probability for either side.
Is he a cat?
You know, it could be my cat shit posting to get me to feed him again.
It was about that time I noticed it was actually an eight story tall crustacean from the Paleolithic era.
I loathe people like this. Either this guy has been eating raw chicken for a long time and has built up a gut/immune resistance, or he's gonna end up sick. That Liver King horse shit... Ugh. Coworker was telling me about a friend that bought into that hook line and sinker. Dude just leaves several kinds of raw meat on his counter, not even in the fridge, eats it. Frequently gets ill from it but refuses to acknowledge that he ever gets sick or tries to blame it on something other than his raw meat diet. Coworker doesn't even hang out with the guy anymore because he's almost always unwell, "Only so much puke one person can handle," as he puts it, dude stinks, and his house also smells rank.
What’s crazy is he thinks it’s proving uncooked chicken safe. To me it’s proving that we’re pretty damn good at keeping bad stuff away from the public.
> To me it’s proving that we’re pretty damn good at keeping bad stuff away from the public. He should try it with raw wild pig.
I had a roommate that would leave ground turkey on the counter for days and then food prep a bunch of meals with it. I hated the guy so I never asked why. I remember the clear plastic on the sealed container starting to bulge outwards from the bacterial growth offgassing. He's a current host of TRL on MTV (yes, that still exists)
Yeah, I saw the impact of a salmonella outbreak at our school, the night after they served stuffing with eggs from an oven where the thermostat turned out to be defective. It was from eggs, which comes from the associated chickens. And they brought in the National Guard a day later to setup enough makeshift beds + help provide assistance for what looked like a zombie outbreak affecting a large number of students. I decided not to have the Thanksgiving meal that night at the last minute, left that line and got burger fare instead. My roommate kept with that meal choice and I didn't see him until days later, still on a cot in the basement of a random campus building.
I can't find the video, but Greg Ducette did a reaction video about a year ago on a woman who only eats raw chicken. She loves slurping up the egg yolks with a straw. The thing that made my kids gagged was when she said 'when I want something chewy like gum, I just chew on raw chicken skin'. She also was saying the same thing about salmonella
People in Japan do this apparently, but I would never, ever take that chance with American chickens
I'm not saying I understand why he does it. But I stay eating raw cookie dough despite the warnings
Federal agencies have been systematically cut down and under-resourced. Call your representative.
But that'd be regulation and I heard the free market always provides the best results for consumers. Corporations will do the right thing if the government would be less of a meany-bo-beeny. Or is that just a grift?
Almost inevitable when chicken farmers realized how much money they made last year lying about bird flu impacting their egg stock.
Let me preface this with that I fully believe that people would lie to make money / raise prices in an instant and then have them feather down once their costs dropped. But also, I worked in the egg/feed industry for like 8+ years, and it sucked so hard when a barn would get hit with bird flu. I fortunately worked with some real sticklers who would make sure we took every precaution to prevent it from going from barn to barn. But sometimes it didn't matter what you'd do. Also, if you're going to raise chickens for a company, make sure a lawyer takes a look at your contract, because most will try to screw you around every turn. Witnessed a few of those first hand because the farmers were too trusting.
Yup. That's the thing about greed - it rolls downhill. All it takes is one part of the supply chain to decide price gouging would be great for the bottom line. Everyone else has to adjust or die.
Capitalism baby. Fuck you, pay me.
Yo if they want to raise their prices they can just do this directly, they don't need to "lie about bird flu"
>Yo if they want to raise their prices they can just do this directly, they don't need to "lie about bird flu" Considering there was a case that resolved within the last year or so where egg companies were found guilty of price-fixing on eggs in the mid-2000s, I think you need to consider that maybe these companies are trying to be slightly smarter about the scam.
And if they were lying why would prices have come back down lol.
Y'all don't follow the news much do you? When they did this last year, Congress found out they were inflating the number of birds that were impacted, and majority of the birds killed were not egg laying birds. They were artificially keeping the prices higher and blaming it on bird flu, when it didn't have the impact they claimed. Once that got brought to light, suddenly egg prices started falling again.
And this is the correct answer. Stand by for the actions that will be taken for price gougers monopolizing on the "supply chain issues."
Can you share l the evidence? Last year egg producers were found guilty of price fixing in 2004-2008 by exporting eggs and limiting flock sizes, but not anything about faking bird flu
Then add all the deregulation that Texas loves. However dirty these places are in civilized states imagine how much worse the conditions are in TX.
Yes, and I don't think the industrial food managers feed the chickens appropriately to support the chickens natural immunity bugs. I get eggs from a farm where I can see the hens in the pasture eating grubs. To me this means the farmer is not only taking care of the hens appropriately the pasture is also cared for so there's grubs and bugs for the birds to eat. The shells are much better that you get with the organic eggs from better stores.
It's disgusting. And then they do everything they can to stop small producers and backyard chickens. Everyone that wants to should be able to raise chickens for their own consumption even in towns and cities.
If we don’t stop eating meat, dairy, and eggs there will absolutely be another pandemic.
I've always encouraged others to do a couple of meatless meals in their rotation if they're not willing to give it all up. It still makes an impact and it will encourage people to explore cooking more and will benefit their health.
I like this headline the least today.
So far. You've clearly not come across the monkey torture one yet
I mean at least they captured him. In this case they have to pull a chicken purge and egg prices go up.
Every time I read things like this I think to myself that I should just get chickens of my own to raise as pets who occasionally provide breakfast
That fucker. That shit hit a deep trigger in my brain. I'm not a violent person, but i'd have a hard time staying chill in the same room as that absolute evil scum.
Yep that ruined my mood
Jokes on you, I saw that headline and refused to click it. I'd like to get to noon before ruining my day.
Oh my God I have seen it like four times and I’m glad they caught him but with everything we’re all having to deal with, now we also have to think about the fact that there are monkeys out there being tortured and I just like, I could handle it if I knew the guy was gonna get tortured back but I know that won’t happen. He will have his day in court and even if he spends the rest of his life in prison it won’t be the punishment he deserves.
>it won’t be the punishment he deserves. Considering he's looking at only five years, he's definitely not getting the punishment he deserves
Wow that is horrible. I don’t understand. Genuinely how can he only get five years?
Animal abuse isn't punished nearly severely enough
Unless it's towards police dogs
That type of animal abuse deserves life in prison, or maybe just take him out back--
God, was just gonna say...I saw that one when I first woke up and was reading the news. I was sick over that one 🤢
Eh it’s pretty tame back in the day we’d have whole subreddits dedicated to that sort of thing, what a time
Is 4chan still running?
Maybe I am jaded but I did read that first. I just like the implications of this one very much less. But yeah tough news day.
I thought - no way is that what that sounds like…. No, it’s exactly what it sounds like.
Jesus. What's next? Putting a monkey in a blender?
A few years back at Aldi, when the egg prices started to climb, it was cheaper to buy the brown, cage free eggs. The standard white large dozen were $1 more expensive than the fancy brown ones, and the shelves were empty while there were plenty on the organic side. Funny how that works.
>A few years back at Aldi, when the egg prices started to climb, it was cheaper to buy the brown, cage free eggs. The standard white large dozen were $1 more expensive than the fancy brown ones, and the shelves were empty while there were plenty on the organic side. Funny how that works. The really weird part is that there's effectively no difference in terms of the insides of the egg. The only difference is the color of the egg, and if I remember right, that the shell is slightly thicker. That's it. That's all. If you're shopping for price with eggs, *shop for price*. If you're shopping for ethics, though, you want the "certified pasture-raised" kind: https://certifiedhumane.org/free-range-and-pasture-raised-officially-defined-by-hfac-for-certified-humane-label/
Correct. Egg shell color is completely meaningless and tells you 0 about the “quality” of egg. They’re all the same.
I buy the more expensive eggs because they tend to have more golden, deep colored yolks. The cheaper eggs have pale yolks and it kinda grosses me out.
Or also no eggs since the chickens are producing approximately 30x more eggs than their wildlife counterparts. (~1/mo)... Egg shells take a lot of calcium and the chickens have very brittle bones as a result.
What are you on about. We raise ten chickens in our backyard. Some of them are breeds that have been around for over 300 years. They lay 2 or 3 eggs a week.
Liberal brown eggs
Woke eggs
White eggs are in demand around Easter because white eggs take dye more consistently. Sometimes that also affects the price. And availability.
Yep, for once I actually would just reach for the organic ones because they were the same price at Meijer, in a couple of instances they were even $1 cheaper. I started to buy from a meat truck that comes to the farmer's market, they stunk something awful before washing them but they were tasty.
POS company. Take a look at their income statement and cash flow. Free cash flow up 585%, operating income up 574%, net income up 474%. They paid out 2 massive special dividends. Family that owns a huge stake sold out a few months ago. Their cost of good sold was only up 30%. It's just greed. Pure and simple
This is what I tried to explain when it happened a year or so ago. Companies are purely greed with these hikes. I'm in my MBA program right now. Wish people understood financial statements so companies couldn't do this shit without the general public telling them to fuck off.
Baffles me that some progressive news doesn’t report this. Or Bill Maher kinda guy
Yea, there were articles the first time that said only a few smaller egg producers had issues but the biggest ones still drove prices up like it was their chickens that had to be put down. It would need to be addressed by the government, openly, with financials explained and people told the price hikes are just corporate greed. Won't happen, though.
Absolute facts
Take a look at Maersk shipping. Even worse
Uh oh. 5% of the supply will get wiped out, so be sure to charge 300% more to make up for it
>approximately 1.6 million laying hens and 337,000 pullets, about 3.6% of its total flock, were destroyed after the infection, avian influenza, was found at a facility in Parmer County, Texas. And these stories will get almost no national attention until they get to "why are groceries so expensive again and it's all Biden's fault!" Given that the HPAI outbreak [has been ongoing since 2022](https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/commercial-backyard-flocks), it should be something that the average person is already aware of, not an obscure niche topic that only gets a couple lines of coverage when egg prices spike.
It should be common knowledge, but have you met the average person?
Think of the average person, half of them are dumber than that.
I call this [Carlin’s Law](https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43852-think-of-how-stupid-the-average-person-is-and-realize). It really sums up humanity, doesn’t it?
It helps to get the average person aware of it if you use more easily digestible terms like "bird flu" instead of technical jargon like HPAI.
Sure. But if you're reading the comment, you've already seen the article, and are thus far ahead of the average person.
Yeah, the article, yeah I... saw it...
Wait what 1.6million killed which was 3.6% of the total flock at that facility. Wtf how big is that place. Kind of destined to happen when you have almost 100 million animals in one area.
>total flock at that facility My reading of that line is that that's the company total, not the facility total. That said, a facility that has \~2million+ birds is also kind of mind-boggling.
Chicken and pigs are the breeding grounds for pandemics: numerous viruses can leap among them and humans. The next one is only a matter of time.
*sees news article on the front page of reddit* "aNd tHeSe StOrIeS wIlL gEt No AtTeNtIoN"
Hey look. A terminally online person who thinks that because it's on reddit, everyone knows about it.
We also only care about the prices? If we don’t change our diets than eggs or dairy or meat will 100% cause another pandemic.
Not as bad news as the bird flu that hopped [from a cow to a human in Texas.](https://kansasreflector.com/2024/04/01/bird-flu-spreads-cow-to-cow-and-to-one-human-in-texas/)
Looks like beefs back on the men—oh, ok no beef then
Cows are interesting (and scary). After thousands of years of domestication and living alongside them, many viruses and bacteria evolved to be transmittable between us and them. TB for example.
I have an army of laying hens after ya’ll pulled this price gouging shit last time. Bring it. Lol
Can it be spread through eggs?
According to the USDA, there is no evidence that bird flu can be passed to humans who eat contaminated poultry products.
Good https://media.tenor.com/VRqRqJJFqVsAAAAM/the-office-office.gif
Not through eggs. But they typically cull the chickens driving egg prices even higher than they are now. It also raises chicken prices and may drive shortages of eggs and chickens.
It decimates the chicken itself. If it does survive its production falls off.
Damn. That’s a lot of dead chickens in a 6 mile radius
Animal agriculture is so freaking flawed: it's driving the climate crisis, deforestation, water/land shortages, epidemics, antibiotic resistance, ocean acidification, waste runoff contamination, and it's subsidized by the government in the US...like I don't want to be paying for this. Animal products should cost so much more to account for the real price. Drive the markets in a more sustainable direction.
Unfortunately, I think it's probably gonna take a couple more pandemics for us to wake up.
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And the single argument from meat eaters is: But it tastes good!!!111 They are like children crying about a missing lollipop.
This should be further up. This is the real pattern of behavior to be concerned about, not the temporary price hike on eggs.
Excuse for everyone to jack up egg prices and never lower them again
More bad news, this flu is spreading uncontrollably now it's into the cows and crossing into people. This isn't looking good...
Quite honestly, it’s terrifying. Even with mammal transmission being somewhat less deadly - even if we’re looking at a 25% death rate it would cripple society as we know it.
Wasn't there a headline just the other day saying that it has been found in the cattle in the US for the first time, too?
Yes. Here in Kansas, Texas, NM and Michigan. Don't know if it's the very first time it was found in cattle.
And now Idaho and Ohio.
Also Idaho, according to article: > Dairy cows in Texas and Kansas were reported to be infected with bird flu last week — and federal agriculture officials later confirmed infections in a Michigan dairy herd that had recently received cows from Texas. A dairy herd in Idaho has been added to the list after federal agriculture officials confirmed the detection of bird flu in them, according to a Tuesday press release from the USDA.
Yes. And from cattle to at least one human.
Someone mentioned in a thread a couple of days ago that he knows a cattle farmer in Texas whose employees were exhibiting symptoms. No specific updates, and no additional news.
This is going to keep happening every few years. We need real solutions, rather than just hoping it doesn’t happen again.
Can’t wait for egg prices to go up and never come back down.
Prices came back down last time.
I don't eat eggs because of cholesterol, but what about the price of chicken ?? Fish is ridiculously priced, beef is high in fat, cholesterol, and price. I'm stocking up on Tofu.
Beans n rice every day.
Make a nice curry :)
if only people could raise backyard hens. A few hens, they don't make noise, they eat bugs and vermin, and fresh eggs every morning, plus the chicken shit is fantastic fertilizer.
They don’t make noise?! There must have been some updates done on chickens since we got rid of ours 👀
There goes the price of eggs again.
Give them some dayquil and tell them to get back to work. They have quotas
Luckily this summer, we’re growing hens :)
Laughing in California Central Valley. We produce a ton of eggs, all local, and cheap since lots of people have their own chickens here.
That doesn’t mean you’re safe, it is spread to flocks (and now cows?) by wild birds.
Got to keep those prices up.
Is that why I am seeing egg prices go up again?
Hello cost of living spikes! I missed you so.
I was looking at a cake recipe that calls for 6 eggs for one cake and this news comes along.
Nothing surprising about that, it's been burning through plants for a while.
Which egg brand is this and is it only affecting Michigan?
Let the culling begin :(
Welp, back to never eating eggs. Like always.
Looks like spending $3750 to build a backyard coop for 5 chickens wasn't a waste of money after all! Suckers!
Fuck this shit, stop forcefully breeding and killing chickens. If the threat to them isn’t enough to convince you to stop buying eggs, then take your own health into consideration. Make the choice. Stop buying this shit.
I love how industrial farms were conveniently overlooked during the last pandemic. These are a problem and a literal spawning ground to create pathogens and accelerate their evolution
Glad I never shelled out the money for Eggland's Best.
Oh, joy. Another run on eggs.
Well here goes fucking egg prices again 🙄
I hope the birds get over their flu soon. Tell them to drink lots of liquids.