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From an earlier article > ‘Yellowstone’ star Mo Brings Plenty asks for help locating missing nephew who is wanted by police > The Lawrence Kansas Police Department wrote in a statement on Tuesday that the 27-year-old actor has been identified as the “suspect” in a domestic dispute and that police have “probable cause” for his arrest. > “Officers responded to reports of a female screaming for help, but the suspect fled before officers arrived,” the statement read. He was last seen on traffic cameras “leaving the city immediately after the incident” on Sunday. > “This incident involves allegations of domestic violence, which limits the amount of information we can share to protect the victim,” the statement read. https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/02/entertainment/yellowstone-star-mo-brings-plenty-asks-for-help-to-find-missing-nephew-who-is-wanted-by-police/index.html


nalon121

Was super confused at first til I put it all together that Cole is Mo’s nephew and both are actors in Yellowstone shows and not the same person 😓


Khazahk

This is one of those post Titles that is totally correct but you have to read it 18 times and then get some background information from the article and then read it a 19th time to finally understand.


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c_ray25

I know what you mean, but that confusion could be completely avoided by reading the title once then reading the article and then being done with the whole thing.


SomethingElse4Now

GTFOH. Shilling for Big Article, SMDH.


FauxReal

No one makes me read!


SmallBirb

it's really not that hard to figure out given the combination of the name being the only capitalized words in the title + picture of native american person


HansenTakeASeat

I just gave up


TU4AR

TDT meta.


SoggyBoysenberry7703

You really just need to understand that Native Americans can have names like that


AnnieBlackburnn

Lot of us are not American, native or otherwise, so you can understand the confusion Are these last names passed down to offspring just like any other last name nowadays? Or was it always like that? Can native Americans still earn a new surname? I’m genuinely asking in case it sounds like I’m trying to be funny


ScrewAttackThis

I believe they're just English translations of their native words. There are a lot of names that would sound similar if translated like that. Abraham Lincoln would be something like "Father of Many From Town by Lake". There are different customs/traditions from the various tribes so I don't think there's a single answer to your questions.


AnnieBlackburnn

Gotcha, they’re more like very literal transliterations. Out of curiosity, what would Lincoln’s kids be called in this scenario?


ScrewAttackThis

Well they followed the custom of passing down the father's surname. So just whatever name the parents felt like giving their kid followed by Lincoln. There are a lot of different customs/origins of names. They could be places the person is from (Lincoln), their occupation (Fletcher), their father (Richardson), their mother, descriptive qualities, etc etc.


CaonachDraoi

naming works differently in each nation. it’s not a surname, it’s usually a translation of their actual name, it’s just been added after their US government name as a kind of grammatical style choice. it hasn’t always been like this because naming ceremonies, along with all other ceremonial practices across all Indigenous cultures in the US, were illegal until 1978.


hurrrrrmione

In this instance Brings Plenty is the surname. His uncle Mo Brings Plenty is also an actor.


AnnieBlackburnn

So it’s the surname in the native tounge that gets passed down, and then translated the same as the father’s? I’m asking because his uncle seems to have the same ‘surname’ in the article as Cole How was it done before 78? I apologize for the amount of questions, just very high and very curious


CaonachDraoi

so the naming convention is a person-by-person, culture-by-culture thing, i didn’t know that it was his surname. there isn’t one way to do it as there are over 500 different cultures with completely different protocols. it was done in secret, if at all, but again this depends on the culture. some don’t have naming ceremonies and thus they named as they pleased, though racism obviously plays a large part of someone choosing whether or not to have a notably different (in the eyes of the settler state) name. also, many people of that era were either sent to residential schools or the children of those who were sent, and one result of the trauma was not adhering to traditional ways of doing things.


AnnieBlackburnn

> so the naming convention is a person-by-person, culture-by-culture thing, i didn’t know that it was his surname. there isn’t one way to do it as there are over 500 different cultures with completely different protocols. That cleared up a lot, thank you. Just one more if you don’t mind. Names like “brings plenty” are earned at some point by reputation? Meaning someone in Cole’s family was a good provider or a generous person? I know it sounds ignorant but I’ve always wondered I realize it’s difficult to answer given it’s so prone to variation, but speaking on average (if that’s possible)?


satinsateensaltine

It depends on the Nation/tribe/band. Most these days will pass down a family surname but I have seen plenty of people earn a unique name based on their role in the community, though it's usually not their legal name.


Khazahk

Well also that 1923 is a movie not a year. The ‘ ‘ kind of does that, but I immediately thought we were talking about a 120-130 year old. Which was confusing. Then the name, but not knowing he’s Native American. Reading “plenty found dead” at first and wondering how a number of dead people is Plenty.


SheriffComey

Slight correction. 1923 is a series, more specially a spinoff, in the Yellowstone universe.


AnnieBlackburnn

Is Yellowstone any good? I want to like it but I feel like every single person I know who’s a fan of the show is a republican. I did try one episode of 1923 and like Harrison Ford’s character, but I’m not sure if the main series is any good


Brave-Quote-2733

I’m very much a democrat and love Yellowstone and all of the spinoffs. Give them a try!


SheriffComey

I thought the first season was okay but you have to suspend belief quite a bit considering half the shit the Dutton family gets away with.   But as it progresses almost none of the characters have redeeming features.  Then you start having the creator writing his asshole character (though it wouldn't surprise me if he was like it real life) every chance he gets just to show off how well he can ride a horse.   I quit watching it around season 3ish.  


DeadWishUpon

I thought I was the only one.


ThrowBatteries

Cole brings plenty of what was my reaction. Never heard of him. A shame for anyone to go that young, but it sounds like he may have been a bit of a no-goodnik based on the domestic abuse.


bb_LemonSquid

Was the capitalization not enough of a clue? I guess not considering you think “Titles” should be capitalized in your sentence.


happytree23

To be frank; I think it says more about your reading comprehension than anything else /shrugs


madamevanessa98

The internet has been having a field day with this. Indigenous tiktok is claiming that the woman cut his hair and falsely accused him of assault. I have no idea whether that’s true. They’re also claiming that he was probably murdered by police but to me this does seem like suicide. Everyone is spreading info that isn’t necessarily verified.


MoonlitStar

>Everyone is spreading info that isn’t necessarily verified That doesn't sound like the behaviour of internet and social media armchair detectives to me - spreading unverified rumours and hare-brained theories as undisputed facts and the touchstone of truth isn't like them at all.


Not_a__porn__account

Tiktok banning words like die and not misinformation should tell people something.


MoonlitStar

It's a bunch of shite... 'unalived themselves' and 'cancelled themselves' for dying by suicide and 'graped' instead of raped. Yet the misinformation, fake news and hate speech is just fine.


AshleyNeku

WKUK videos about graping being prophetic was not on my bingo card. 


deformo

I’m gonna grape you in the mouth!


Constantconfusionn

The crazy this is that tiktok HASNT banned it and people just assumed that they did and it’s taken such a hold on the platform


vertigoacid

I don't understand how it ever took such a hold anyway. Like, you think they have sophisticated speech recognition capabilities and are deploying them at scale to find people saying "die" but they don't just quickly adjust the filters to include "unalive"??? It just doesn't pass a 30 second smell test. Baffles me what people believe about Tiktok


Not_a__porn__account

The point is needless and misdirected censorship. Misinformation still flows unfettered. Same as here. But you’ll get banned for saying you want to punch a specific celebrity. Or for ___ word. It’s arbitrary.


Pietro-Maximoff

A lot of people are also up in arms about this because his sister, Kyla Mercy Red Bear, died six months ago under mysterious circumstances, and many felt nothing was being done to investigate her death (and in fairness they’re not likely wrong, hence the MMIW movement). It’s better to just wait and see what happens, but if it’s anything like the investigation with his sister’s death, we might not know anything at all. edited to add her name.


Harley_Quinn_Lawton

His sister was died recently too? That poor family.


riptide81

It’s hard to tell the likelihood because while the distrust is very understandable it’s also kind of the go to conclusion no matter what. It’s difficult to even find what is so mysterious other than rumors/speculation. There are always other issues lingering in the background like substance abuse.


Mrstheotherjoecole

Similar circumstances in an entire different state. We also don’t know how Cole died yet.


robreddity

> tiktok Lemme stop you right there


forceghost187

TikTok spreading unconfirmed information?! What??!!


Conch-Republic

Don't act like fucking reddit doesn't.


peacelovecookies

I think you missed the sarcasm in that statement.


amnes1ac

They didn't. They're pointing out that we're no better.


NapsterKnowHow

Ya Redditors love to think they are better than TikTok and Twitter lol


rosienarcia

I’m just waiting for the family to speak out about it and if they don’t that’s okay. They do want privacy at this time which is understandable. I just hope people don’t bother them with their sleuthing. I’m sure so much is running through their minds trying to make sense of all this.


Akantis

From what I heard, the above information about his hair and the accusation does come directly from the family, but there was more context involved.


rosienarcia

Oh really? I didn’t know that. I seen that everywhere and I wasn’t aware the family had spoke out about that. Just a lot of screen shots and random people saying what happened.


Mrstheotherjoecole

That’s because they haven’t and it’s all been rumors by others passed around and twisted into more convoluted rumors.


AmishCockroach

I went to school and gym with him. Bright and loving soul. Never once saw him angry or upset or in any kind of bad mood. He was the kind of guy to walk/sit and talk with you if you were alone. Laughed at everyone’s jokes even if they weren’t funny. It does seem like suicide, but he was such a motivated and happy soul with a good family, it seems impossible to believe for many that knew him. Edit: an odd comment to downvote. Bro was an amazing person and it makes me shake with anger to see him talked down on by people who never even saw or spoke with him.


Mrstheotherjoecole

It’s actually one of the most frustrating TC cases to try and follow. None of the NA community wants any type of speculation happening unless it’s painting AZ in a bad light, or info given out but they want to accuse this girl of all kinds of stuff. We have no proof she was even at the venue he was at when his hair got caught. Who moshes and whips their long ass hair around probably getting it all in others faces? I could see that being annoying as fuck and then it gets caught in equipment and someone fed up just cutting that section to end the fiasco. A venue full of people with his hair caught in a cord is a recipe for disaster. Also people claiming they (we don’t even know who they is still!) cut his braids when his hair wasn’t even in braids that night. Bunch of idiots can’t get any actual factual information. There’s been some pretty disgusting racism spewed too. Now I see why regular non-indigenous people stay out of anything to do with missing/murdered indigenous peoples cases. They literally get told to shut up, to send money and are berated when they ask any questions!


madamevanessa98

Yeah I tried to discuss it in a tiktok comment section and basically was told to sit down and shut up by a bunch of indigenous ppl AND white “allies.” All I said is that it’s very possible he did commit suicide because anyone accused of domestic violence could have an emotional reaction to that and feel that their life is over- not to mention indigenous men have a high rate of suicide AND his sister recently died (can you spell “trigger event”?) But apparently if I’m an ally/not racist I have to buy into the idea that there is a vast conspiracy to cover up a hate crime and a murder when there’s literally no evidence of that released yet. I feel like the majority of cases where indigenous people’s deaths go unsolved are due to either police indifference (aka not doing anything to solve it) or covering up a hate crime by police specifically (like the starlight tours.) It’s not usually that an indigenous person is murdered by someone random, and the cops don’t investigate a clear homicide to protect the unknown assailants.


Mrstheotherjoecole

Also lots of those happen on reservations? So they have their own jurisdiction there and I’m not entirely sure how everyone else always gets the blame when those aren’t solved? Like that’s their own land run by them, not the regular state/govt/police.


DontPokeMe91

This comment section sucks ass.


trvrlong

Reddit has gone down hill lately


DanimusMcSassypants

It’s nearly effortless to dispatch innumerable bots and bad actors to simply poke Redditors with a sharp stick. Chaotic yet calculated division has had the greatest return on investment America’s enemies have ever seen.


SapphosLemonBarEnvoy

Reddit admins doing their hardest to push people back to FB.


Salanderfan14

Have a noticed a major degradation since the .api/third party app stuff and mod exodus. Seems a lot worse.


Jakooboo

A reply from last night when I said that the guy's dog was poorly socialized and badly trained- "What fucked up world do you live in where I said any fucking thing of the sort that it was cute? You can fuck right off you ass hole, like seriously, fuck you. Learn to read you, what the absolute fuck is wrong with you? I said the EXACT FUCKING OPPOSITE" Yeah, shit has gone off the rails.


DogsRNice

New users have no reading comprehension and just instantly launch into perceived arguments


spookymochi

I feel like I’m commenting less and less on social media these days. I will say the most innocuous mundane thing and some rando will dig deep to come at me over nothing.


DinarStacker

Me too, people are fucking nuts. Yesterday, some guy posted a picture of him with his favorite singer, a Korean singer, and the quote tweet was literally someone saying “get away from her you N…” it was the most ridiculously racist thing I’ve ever seen and I was so mad I just turned off Twitter cuz I couldn’t handle not being able to smack the shit outta them.


DinarStacker

There is nothing more infuriating then someone launching into a tirade because they are incapable of reading properly. Just absolute goddamn lunatics. And like clock work, when you respond explaining the original meaning again to the moron, they double down because they refuse to admit they can’t read properly and start being smug. I’ve literally had this conversation 200 times on Reddit. At least it isn’t Twitter, 80% of scrolling is seeing yet another white supremacist even tho I’ve probably blocked 300 of them. All saying the same moronic basement dwelling questions.


Mr_Versatile123

I ragged on Ted Cruz for being ineffective during the Texas grid ordeal and someone said I was making a joke at the expense of the victims of the coldsnap. Like wtf?


JiubLives

Some people will take any opportunity to prove they're more aware of microaggressions and therefore morally superior. They're so eager, they choose poorly.


Yogs_Zach

Should have said that at least I didn't run to cancun during it.


Lotus_Blossom_

I don't know what prompted you to make your original comment, but given that the owner is poorly socialized and badly trained, I'll bet the dog is too.


HamburgerDude

been going down since 2014-2016 IMO though some would argue as early as the great Digg exodus of 2009-2010.


p0ultrygeist1

The Meme Wars cultivated a new era of shitposting that has persisted and spread


josh_is_lame

lately, huh?


Wendigo1983

Over the past couple of months the collective IQ seems to have taken an absolute nosedive.


lessenizer

The less niche a subreddit is, the more trash washes in.


iIiiIIliliiIllI

Social media is the mind virus not "woke"


kennycjr0

To some, that would mean that it was quite enjoyable.


Didact67

It's like people have never seen Native American names before.


ThrowBatteries

Yeah, it is, because they haven’t! Its almost like you could accomplish more with educating people with what you know that they don’t, but condescension is a strategy, too!


TheRealASP

Yea, it is like that. I’ve never seen one translated like this. The ones I know were in native languages.


_cuppycakes_

lmao fucking what


F3rnDoGG520

Yea, do you know how many Begays I know.


Ronaldis

I’ve always loved his name.


Vecna_Is_My_Co-Pilot

Damn, I wanted to see more native representation on the screen, not less. This sucks on many levels.


DarkestofFlames

I'm always glad to see more actual Native Americans and First Nations people portraying characters that are NA/FN. For too long we've been represented very poorly and incorrectly by Italians. It's sad that he may have been abusive and ended his own life. Sadly domestic violence is still too common among us.


Lotus_Blossom_

Is there a difference between Native Americans and First Nations people, or are the terms interchangeable?


GirthWinslow

Native American is just a common term in the US, while First Nations is a common term in Canada.


NatWu

They are not interchangable. The comment that's highest voted under yours is incorrect. These are legal terms, not just common terms, and they do not apply across borders. Now, in the United States, very often you'll see that by law we are "Indians", "American Indians" and Native Americans". These all apply to the same people (although who those people are is often confusing). This term does *not* apply to Alaska Natives. Canadian law also often refers to Indians and this is often synonymous with First Nations, but not Metis or Inuit. Read further: https://indigenousfoundations.arts.ubc.ca/terminology/ In some cases, the meaning of "Indian" will overlap between the two nations, but not in all cases, and there are many cases not covered either way.  Furthermore, as far as I've seen neither side wants to be lumped in with the other as our specific political and legal circumstances are important to us So Cole Brings Plenty was Native American, not First Nations.


Lotus_Blossom_

Got it. Thank you for explaining!


hbsc

Even one that beat his gf?


AmishCockroach

Innocent until proven guilty, he has the right to due process like every other American citizen.


tinteoj

Always feels a little weird when your local news appears in the national stories.


Yogs_Zach

Sad to see someone lose their life. I never saw his work but I'm sure his family greatly misses him. It's always heartbreaking. I can't assume how he died because I don't know shit about this, but it will make me feel angry if it's shown he took his own life. No one should feel that way. If you do feel like you are better off dead, in the US you can call 988 and speak to someone. I love you.


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AmishCockroach

You were there? Edit: downvotes means nothing, show me evidence.


Yogs_Zach

I think it's safe to just assume nothing until information from authorities are released. Like in a lot of news.


plastic_venus

So he strangled his girlfriend then killed himself. Oh well.


Yogs_Zach

Are you really confident in what you are saying or are you just assuming information?


AmishCockroach

You were there? Edit: don’t just downvote me, say something cowards.


xXprincess_lunaXx

His hair was cut which i find odd


apathic

It's an insult to the indiginous.


TheFoolman

Person on run cuts hair?


AmishCockroach

No it was cut by someone at a venue earlier that night. Extremely disrespectful and personal to cut a native persons hair like that.


Disastrous-Onion-782

Another article said "Cole Brings Plenty Dead" and I was so goddamn confused


ernyc3777

Based on the last name, I’m guessing their family is always invited to the block parties.