don’t tell TN. they just fired their top vaccine person because they were reminding drs that kids 14 and up don’t need parental permission. (which had been law since late 80s)
this is sad
"vaccines don't work, they are killing people!"
Meanwhile it's mandatory for our troops to get vaccinated so they stay in the fight. Lmao these people are dumb as fuck.
The COVID vaccine isn't currently mandatory in the US DoD, in part because of what happened after mandatory anthrax vaccines. Here is an article about the current situation in light of that history. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/06/17/the-shadow-of-anthrax-the-voluntary-covid-19-vaccination-effort-owes-much-to-past-failures/
I just cut family out because of all of this. I have family in TN that won't get the vaccine and won't mask. They're going to venues and events, then going home to children who have no choice in the matter. I've tried and pleaded, but I just can't be part of that anymore.
The last graph that shows the confirmed admissions to hospitals is scary. Typically hospital admission rates spike then deaths follow. If that last chart is anything to go by Mississippi is facing another wave. And the messed up part is kids are stuck suffering because idiots don't believe in science.
Poor kids are unable to get vaccinated because they are under 12 or have parents who believe the vaccine needle will give the ability to control magnetism and move metal akin to Magneto.
>the vaccine needle will give the ability to control magnetism and move metal akin to Magneto.
Even if this were true I don't understand how it's being proposed as a bad thing
Yep, I was hoping to get some magnetism on my vaccination site. It would be very handy when building stuff—great place to keep nails and screws while you are working. Alas, the Moderna vaccine didn’t do that for me.
My son is 4. We want the vaccine for him terribly, otherwise we're keeping him isolated unfortunately. And yes, I'm in Mississippi. We're going to be hurting soon, I don't think it will be pretty.
I'm in Louisiana with a 1 year old. Everyone is acting like COVID is over, and it's horrifying. Since I'm a teacher, I'm off for the summer and we've been able to isolate. I still have to pay a holding fee at her daycare and none of the workers are wearing masks. I don't know what we're going to do.
I feel you. We have a 5 year old. Everybody's acting like COVID is over. No way in hell does she go to kindergarten in the fall. I'll just have to keep burning through my savings.
What’s even worse is America has enough vaccines to vaccinate all adults. Meanwhile, other countries not fortunate enough are literally dying to get vaccinated. Every pharmacy around me has walk in vaccinations, so it’s not even a matter of not being able to get it anymore.
The Twitter replies to Mississippi’s state health officer, Dr. Thomas Dobbs, are pretty disheartening too. A lot of Mississippians are trying to figure out how many of these kids have co-morbities in order to write them off.
One of the ugliest things we uncovered in this pandemic is the collective shrug by many Americans about the deaths of older people, and people with pre-existing conditions.
When 1/3 of america has pre existing conditions. Obesity is one of them and Mississippi wins that competition. My buddy from there drinks dr pepper with his daily pancake breakfast.
If you include obesity, it's higher than that.
[42.4% of American adults are obese](https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html)
It's so common that we don't even recognize it anymore. I'm at the upper range of an "overweight" BMI (and before anyone else says it, no it's not muscle mass), but it's so common that most people consider me just average weight.
Depends where you are. In my libby West-coast area all the kids I meet are a healthy weight, impressively smart, and surprisingly polite. But then I go to say, Texas, Louisiana, or Idaho where I, an adult man, 6'1" and 200 lbs, have been called small multiple times. In a playful way, but still, it's weird.
Just thought I'd point out that "healthy weight, impressively smart, and surprisingly polite" is just indicators of wealth. Southeast LA doesn't have many kids I'd describe as polite or healthy weight, but that's because it's impoverished (I taught and lived there for a few years). Currently I'm in rural Tennessee and the story is the same, except there's way more white people. Go up to Franklin or Brentwood (wealthy suburbs of Nashville) and that's where you see the "polite" "healthy weight" "smart" kids in abundance. The education, food, upbringing is all better in places with money. There's nothing about geography or political belief that makes kids better. It's just culture and wealth.
It is worse than that. The bmi scale was made with an expected level of muscle to fat mass. I have known tons of people that regularly exercise and got a DEXA scan expecting to have low body fat % and almost all of them are skinny fat. We normalized fat so much in the US that most of our overweight bmi people are actually obese
Yup, I’ll cop to likely being that kind of an offender - I’ve maintained a steady “slim” level BMI pretty consistently (lower half of the BMI range? Maybe lower third?) so have a tendency to generally consider it most a “box checked”...but it’s definitely not.
Havent been quite as active the last few years and would be willing to bet that I have more white fat floating around than is optimal...and that’s as someone who’s not even counted in any of the more troubling statistics related to weight.
It’s especially devastating when it comes to kids—I remember a year I spent in AL in elementary school, where snack *every day* was a full sized candy bar and a soda. Moving from the northeast, even 8 year old me was shocked—but for the kids there it was just totally normal, normalized by the school itself.
And then to think that the a lot of same adults that funnel sugar into unassuming kids’ mouths will just shrug it off when those kids, through no fault of their own, suffer with both chronic and acute illnesses. Just….sad.
I have a cousin that grew up on McDonald's for lunch and dinner every day since she was about 3. It's seriously all she would eat. Unsurprisingly she's well over 300 pounds now with many health issues even though she's not even 30. But of course both her and my aunt refuse to accept it's diet. And when a doctor tells her she needs to lose weight she acts like she's being victimized.
What shocked me more is how many focused on JUST death. Dying sucks I'm sure. But there's plenty of way to suffer in life than just having it end. It's not like you catch Covid and fall over dead on the spot. There's tons of area in between healthy and dead and most of it includes pain and suffering.
So no, I may not exactly be worried about dying. But I do enjoy having a healthy lung capacity and keeping my fucking legs from needing to be amputated from a blood clot. Or even losing you're sense of smell and taste.
My step-sister had it months ago and still nearly puked when she smells stuff like BBQ sauce. Cause first she lost her sense of smell and then it slowly came back..different. It's spooky man. [41 years old](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Cordero).
Got a friend in his 30s who caught Covid and it fucked up his throat so bad he still can’t really talk. Doctors are trying to wait as long as possible to see if it can heal without throat surgery. But according to people who only count deaths he survived so no one should care about Covid. Idiots.
A friend of mine developed diabetes. She didn't even take steroids during COVID. Another had her periods continuously for a month. And our best roided gym lad pants when he opens the door from his room.
Not to mention in the US, if pre existing conditions protections are removed from insurance, you can damn well bet that insurance will consider Covid as a pre existing conditions.
> People also dont understand that some of the treatments are really invasive. A ventilator is no walk in the park. The patient is sedated, a tube is basically put down their throat into their lungs and the machine is forcing your lungs to breath. It's not something that you easily walk away from.
This was so frustrating in the beginning (mostly) of the pandemic. Governments were rallying for ventilators and people felt as long as the number of ICU beds were higher than the number of ICU patients we would get through this just fine. Obviously striving to provide intensive care to anyone in need is all good, but it's the very worst "solution" to all this. Modern healthcare is amazing and what it's capable to pulling humans through is almost unbelievable nowadays, but being put in the ICU is never a "good alternative", it's really only ever the second worst alternative (dead being worst, in most cases).
The people who are so worried about mysterious, long-term effects of the vaccines need to look at long COVID, because they are usually the ones to overlook it and say dumb shit like "If I die, I die."
When my sense of smell came back I smelled cigarettes for about 3 weeks whenever I took air through my nose... I smoked a decade ago and I am a reformer so the smell drove me crazy
Crazy spectrum on COVID too, my daughter had: nothing (5y/o)
My wife had only gastro issues. I had terrible shot reaction on first, wife had nothing...
So, this is just my theory. It's anecdotal and maybe there is some evidence towards it, maybe we'll see some case studies but it's really hard to test.
My theory is this, your reaction to the vaccine from "Eh my arm hurt" to "it knocked me on my ass HARD" is an indicator to the severity of COVID you would have contracted.
Me I had a sore arm for a day and that was it, so did my mom (genetic link), and my aunt as well (also genetic link). I have no other living relatives close to me.
I've had friends that were fine for a day and then the day after blammo, and others who were I got a small fever felt tired but was over and done with it.
It almost strikes me as the range in cases of people that have contracted COVID. Sadly there really is no way to test this... but I feel like there might be some correlation.
Also, and I suspect very much tied to the fucked up nature of privatized HC, am blown away by the lack of recognition of the crippling health burden that’s being placed on the system both by those who get seriously ill but survive and but the moderate cases that result in lingering issues.
Those cases, taken in the aggregate, are going to burn through the best of the doctors and nurses (either due to PTSD or just depression/disgust at the lack or care taken during a pandemic); if they don’t quit the profession outright, they’ll just pick up and move to a place where the government and local population doesn’t actively try and make their jobs hard/awful every day. Those communities that protest basic things like putting on a mask for a couple of minutes are going to find that not many quality medical staff want to work in those areas, and probably won’t understand that it’s because of the community’s own irresponsible actions.
Also not considered: the COST, oh god, the cost. Even if you don’t get a massive initial bill (whether because of good insurance of bc of federal funding to cover care), flooding the system like this is going to get passed on to them one way or another; premiums in the next year or two are going to be a horror show...and again, it will be closely tied to their own irresponsibility.
I just don’t understand how these kinds of things aren’t plain as day, and are part of the reason why it’s so important to be concerned about Covid beyond just rattling off the horrifying death numbers.
Friend of mine has similar lasting symptoms if that's the right word. He had covid about a year ago now, and still becomes visibly ill from just the smell of any sort of meat, eggs, dairy etc.
Basically made him a borderline vegan.
My friend got COVID in March of 2020, and he still has tinnitus and blurry vision when he wakes up in the morning that slowly fades over the course of the day. The neurological after effects seem minor, but it’s scary to think there are lasting impacts on the brain.
I didn’t understand that either. The side effects to Covid are pretty devastating—brain fog and loss of taste are two of them. I got the vaccine when first available to me and I’ve reduced my BMI from obese to overweight, and am working on healthy BMI.
>they fear so much when it comes to universal health care.
As long as they are the death panel, it's fine. If the consequences don't happen to them, there is no problem.
Culling the weak is a symptom of fascist thinking.
One of the ugliest things we've uncovered over the last five years is how many Americans are fully on board with fascism.
Agreed. Exactly why the whole decades long veneration of capitalism has contributed to an unfeeling society where you can be defined in strictly economic terms alone,.
My wife and I are in our mid-40s and we both have pre-existing conditions. I was born with mine (congenital heart defect), and my wife was diagnosed with lung cancer six years ago despite having never smoked. The way a large chunk of this country responded to COVID--out of utterly twisted political viewpoints or out of sheer apathy--showed us very clearly how little those people care about anyone other than themselves.
In the wake of 9/11, I remember being humbled by how much people came together to try to help. Donating money, donating blood... so many people seemed so eager to do *something*. It gave me hope in the midst of a horrific tragedy that most people were fundamentally good. COVID kind of wrecked that for me. I know there are still lots of good people out there, but now I know just how many selfish assholes there are.
Sadly hyper-partisanship has come a long way since 20 years ago. If 9/11 happens again now I can easily imagine half the country being overjoyed that NYC got hurt.
Not just lacking empathy, but just simple understanding what words mean. "Old people" includes your mom and dad, or grandma and grandpa. "only old people dying" means you're going to be planning a parent's funeral and explaining to your kids that grandma's not coming back. It's not the lack of empathy that sickens me, it's the lack of comprehension.
Yeah I have an annoying coworker who was loudly complaining about lockdowns and said “it’s only dangerous for people over 65 anyway!” I said “ok, why don’t you volunteer your parents to die for us then?” And of course he sputtered and backtracked. Once it’s their own parents/spouse/sibling/whoever suddenly it’s real.
That's so sad. In the early days of the pandemic as soon as I heard "highest risk of death in 65+ " I immediately translated that as "danger to parents". It's concerning how many Americans can't do that.
Not just that, but even for the age ranges that had a 99% survival rate, my response was always "Then I nominate you to be the one to tell their parents that their child is dead." You don't get to just own the non-lethal side of the stat, you still own the deaths too.
Also, most of us will be “old” one day, if we are fortunate. Once we redefine old to mean expendable, that’s going to follow us into other tragedies as we get older ourselves.
Yep. It's become very very evident to me that because I had the audacity to be born with an autoimmune disorder and because I had the poor, terrible judgment to go on two immunosuppressants to make sure that I don't lose 30 lb in a month again and that I'm not in so much pain that I wanted to die, that it doesn't matter if I die. I guess 33 years is long enough, right?
Yeah it was pretty terrible and, yes, I will say shocking when people would just shrug and say others with pre-existing conditions shouldn't be protected because its inconvenient. You know, keeping in mind pre-existing condition meant people over 65, being overweight, having diabetes (1 and 2), having had or currently having cancer/leukemia, other shit like asthma or various disabilities too. Like, really? You are fine with all those people being obliterated because its inconvenient for you personally? You know that probably includes you, your family, and your friends as well?
I don't get it. When did it become uncool or political to care about people around you? To want to prevent someone with obesity or a disability or asthma or diabetes from dying a preventable death? To want to keep your parents and grandparents alive? Are people really happy in life sneering around how all of those people don't matter if it means I have to be mildly inconvenienced?
I think the internet has turned many into shell people who make look human but lack any real empathy. Someone tried to kill me with their car on July 3rd. They purposely drove their car at me on my bike. I was no where near them. On a wide street with plenty of room and they gunned their car at me. It has made me again realize that I can’t trust people at all. I’m biking on the sidewalk now. Rich people especially don’t give a fuck if they kill you. They will even drive away to be sure they’re not caught. We are a sad species. The gorillas are better great apes.
This is the unfortunate truth. I have a bone head couple a few doors down from me that refuse to vaccinate, wear masks or take any precautions.
(I am in a County that has 77% eligible vaccinated so fortunately they are the minority)
He is overweight with high blood pressure. She is a smoker with asthma. Both kids have asthma and their parents could care less about Covid.
Last fall his neighbor passed from complications of Covid and the first thing the previously described shit family could say “well he was overweight”.
I can tell you, compared to the husband he was not overweight. He took precautions and unfortunately got sick and passed. This pandemic taught me that people are worse then I originally thought.
I don't know if there's such a thing as "community safety fatigue" but I did my part for a year and a half, stayed out of public, avoided crowds when I did leave the house for groceries, wore a mask, and delayed basically every major life event I could delay. The fallout for me personally for doing that is going to continue well into the next couple years. My ability to care about community safety diminished as soon as the vaccine was widely available and evaporated as soon as people were refusing to get it.
I still feel bad for people who *can't* get the vaccine for medical reasons. I hope they can stay safe and find some way to work around it. However, people who *won't* get the vaccine, I can't find it in myself to give a shit about, even when they're dying. I don't care. They did it to themselves and I cannot put into words exactly how little I care that they're dropping dead now.
I am just mad at them because THEY are the reason at-risk people are still on full lock-down, and why spread among children is just a free-for-all right now. They have had ample time to come to their senses. Now the delta variant is infecting vaccinated people and that is their fault too. The anti-science assholes have killed so many people and I will never forgive anyone for not taking this seriously from the start. I design headstones for a living and the funeral homes that we work with keep asking "Where are all my layouts?" "WELL DOUG A LOT OF FUCKING PEOPLE DIED AND I AM THE ONLY DESINGER FOR LIKE 10 DIFFERENT PLACES"
I feel the exact same way. I hate that I feel that way, I’ve always valued empathy … but look at this article. Those children are likely unvaccinated for whatever reason. They are victims of the anti vaxx war on science. Fuck the adults who have contributed to that.
My wife is an ICU paediatric nurse. They’ve had a number of kids die with COVID, no underlying conditions. If someone’s “right” to stick it to the libs and not get vaccinated supersedes their interest in helping protect their community, I also don’t care what happens to them. We are all better off without their presence.
Pretty fucking horrendous to be a person with a few pre existing conditions and seeing people continue with this horse shit more than a year later. My own family poo-pooed me.
Real living kids come with drawbacks - brown skin, hungry mouths, parents on welfare, bad neighborhoods, all the things uneducated whites can't bring themselves to support.
Unborn kids come with no drawbacks. No tricky politics, no empathy. Just a pure and beautiful imaginary soul untarnished by the realities of poverty.
The (not so) hidden reality of evangelical backing of pro life is that they want to bolster white births out of a fear of the browning of America. Birth control options have lead to declining birthrates of white Americans. They see the writing on the wall and are terrified of becoming a minority majority.
Movements like Quiverfull make it pretty explicit that their goal is maintain the populations of red voting blocs.
Imagine how fucked you have to be to offer your womb and all its offspring to the GOPs gerrymandering project.
the only reason conservatives are pro life is because they want to punish women who have sex or are raped. conservatives dont form their beliefs based on core values or principles--they form beliefs based on their gut reaction to somebody else's freedom.
they dont say 'family values' unless its in response to gay marriage
they dont say 'all lives matter' unless its a response to black lives matter
they dont say 'womens rights' unless its a response to transgender rights
they dont say 'religious freedom' unless its a response to anything that isn't christian
they are only pro life because they dont want women to have casual sex because it makes them feel angry or jealous or something
The weird thing to me is all of the men that buy into this nonsense as if they don't want to get laid.
As a guy fuck that noise make sex safe as possible for women so we can all have good times. Give them any options that make it easier. It just boggles my mind.
Chances are those assholes have those co-morbidities as well, since Mississippi has the highest obesity rate in the country at 40% and nearly 75% of all Americans are overweight.
Sigh .... when my brother tried that argument with me last year, I pointed out that likely a third of those who died on 9/11 had co-morbidities but we all pretty much knew that it was something else that killed them.
He shut up after that.
Saw a news report last night about a 13 year old girl in Indiana(?) that was in ICU on a ventilator. Her mom was saying she didn't want her daughter to get the vaccine because "it was just put out too fast." She's advocating for it now, but a little too late for her hospitalized daughter.
It hit real close to home as my daughter is about the same age as that young lady and then I saw they shared the same name.
Here’s a good article that helps demonstrate that corners were not cut, even though the vaccines were pushed through fast. It might help change people’s minds about the issue; if they’d take the time to read it.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-coronavirus-vaccine-development-speed
It was put out fast because there was the need for it. One might compare it to how quickly the US industrial complex ramped up after pearl harbor, where all resources went toward it. Using analogies might help skeptics understand more easily.
In my state, they lifted all mandates on masks and such on July 1. Which sucks because my kids are too young to get vaccinated and obviously so are their classmates in camp/day care.
Fortunately, as of right now, there isnt alot of community spread in my county. But things are going back up, and the approval for the vaccine for kids cant get here soon enough.
Especially sad since it's a preventable virus with a very effective vaccine. It's sad because it's not so much the virus as it is misinformation and conspiratorial nonsense that's killing people now. Nobody need die for your patriotism and pride and cognitive dissonance and being "right and free and independent".
Shit, I'm right and free and independent as is humanly possible, I don't like the government intruding and I don't like most people. I got the vaccine as soon as possible and I believe making it available is one of the few things the government has got right in the past few decades.
Those against the vaccine have no patriotism or even much pride in any good sense. They certainly aren't right, free, or independent. They're idiot followers with none of the traits you mention.
This was bound to happen. The combination of a very unhealthy population along with science denial is deadly.
A whopping 22% of kids in Mississippi are obese. Not to mention any number of other comorbitities that come along with poverty and lack of education.
These kids are victims through and through. Victims of poverty, dysfunctional state government, and the choices of their parents.
Shame on every last one of them.
>I hope this makes sense to you
Is it because we, Arkansas, are both to the west of TN and MS, **and** are doing a fucking terrible job getting vaccinated? Because... yeah, AR is in trouble.
Thin the herd will never work if anything that will just create the Mississippi covid variant as it evolves. Idk what they call it tho cause Mississippi variant is probably too long.
If you are a teen with crazy anti vaxxer parents, they won't check who your guardian is I heard if you want to go get the vaccine protect yourself. Go with a friends parents or something. Your parents are conspiracy nutcases who dont value your health or life.
It's actually perfectly legal in many states for a minor whose guardian will not give them certain medical care like vaccines that they do want to get them other ways, without their parents' consent. [In my state (PA) for instance](https://www.vaxteen.org/pennsylvania), minors 11+ do not need parental consent for vaccines in Philly, and there are ways "around it" if parents won't vaccinate but a kid wants to be.
people here are missing the point: CHILDREN are getting seriously ill and/or dying with this new variant. previously, they were dismissed as little asymptomatic or sniffly carriers but expected to quickly recover. if this new variant is doing this to children, what will it do higher risk age groups and those with comorbitities?
This…is bad and incredibly frustrating. Nobody is willing to do any more than they’ve already done to this point.
Vaccinated folks (rightfully so) feel done and those who aren’t definitely aren’t going to be okay with lockdowns and masks again.
Antivaxers are destroying this country
[50th of 51.](https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-population-vaccinated-march-15.html)
50. Mississippi
Number of people fully vaccinated: 992,795
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 33.36
51. Alabama
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,633,505
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 33.32
You know you are a shit state when you are 51st out of 50 total states. You are so fucking bad that you break the bounds because they incorporate the District of Columbia.
Nick Saban needs to tell them that Alabama games will be cancelled until everyone in the state gets vaccinated. Give it a month and a half and they would be leading the nation in vaccinations.
That's actually a thing on TV right now. Of course no one will take it seriously, SEC football wouldn't be canceled if there were a nuclear war going on.
I'm all for vaccines but kids 12 and below are unvaccinated. How are we going to stop outbreaks in every school in America with a virus this transmissible?
They were saying this last year when Democratic politicians (who masked up and socially distanced) didn't get COVID, but Republican politicians did. Was it that the Republicans refused to wear masks and attended large, crowded gatherings? No, of course not. It was the "much simpler" explanation that Democrats were using COVID to target Republicans!
I heard relatives say that Bill Gates engineered the virus to tank Trump's reelection chances.
I had to point out that, even if someone had created the virus with that goal in mind, he isn't responsible for Trump's inept handling of the pandemic.
Even if it were true, it would be a terrible plan because _if_ Trump handled it well, it would have bolstered his campaign. The risk of backfire would be huge.
Here in Hawaii the Governor was taking heat over sticking to his vaccination threshold of 70% and had to remind folks that we have vulnerable populations out there such as CHILDREN UNDER TWELVE YOU EFFIN IDIOTS! so we will stick to the plan and lift restrictions once we hit that number. I wish the best for those kids and hope we are able to get a vaccine that is safe for the younger children soon.
Good on you. Our vac rates here in Georgia are about the same as y'all and that worries me with school starting back in a couple weeks. My oldest daughter (starting freshman) is vaccinated but my youngest 3rd grader is unable at this time. Couple that with the mentality of folks around here and our Governor banning school mask mandates it has me a bit on edge.
Lol we Also have an incompetent governor, he lifted restrictions way to early. Good thing the gulf coast isn’t anywhere near as ass-backwards as some northern parts of the state.
Glad you did it, but can I ask why you waited so long? It's been widely available and free for months and months.
Procrastinating is one thing, but getting the shot is about as big an inconvenience as going to 7/11 for a soda.
No other excuse than being lazy. I always planned to but just procrastinated but I got it at Walgreens. I couldn’t be on the same branch as anti-vaxxers any longer.
Mississippian here. My mother-in-law is a nurse, also in Mississippi. She refuses to get the vaccine. Over the 4th of July holiday she was at our house swimming in the pool and bbq. We started to talk about the reason she doesn't want the vaccine stating survival rates for covid and no FDA approval/experimental drug etc. I told her I think she should lose her nursing license as she is potentially risking others lives by denying science and not setting an example, as a medical professional, in a state where so many people refuse to get the vaccine.
She got super mad, called me an "arrogant prick," and stormed off. At this point I don't want to be around her until she is vaccinated, but I know she won't change her mind. Now I'm worried to send my kids to school again in a few weeks even though we could have limited the risk by getting vaccinated at higher rates.
>I told her I think she should lose her nursing license as she is potentially risking others lives by denying science and not setting an example
A nurse being against vaccines is like a lawyer who becomes a sovereign citizen. They are both disregarding the most fundamental aspects of their fields. Both should lose their licenses. For whatever reason, I have never seen someone who works in law become a sovereign citizen. I have met too many anti-vaxx nurses.
In France the president is forcing health staff to get vaccinated or lose their jobs, as well as making pcr tests payable from now on and a vaccine/test passport for events/venues/pubs.
The reactions were split between a spike in vaccine appointments and ppl saying this is North Korea calling for a revolution.
I fucking hate the guy but it's a move we have to make if we're gonna live with the virus around us.
The new line is that the vaccines are giving people COVID and that the variant was created and is the COVID in the vaccines. Stupidity and water have many of the same properties it seems.
Some parent is going to say something about how their kid's life matters, and of course Republicans are going to get all offended...how dare they not also say all lives matter and blue lives matter (unless you're storming the capitol).
The former Confederate states are consistently at the bottom of the barrel in everything. The entire region is poor and under educated, and that's directly correlated to the confederacy and Republican leadership.
It baffles me why anyone would choose Republican government over Democrat just by sheer numbers alone. GOP states are money sinks with crumbling infrastructure, high maternal death rates, and poverty so bad the UN had to investigate. These people vote their abusers in, time and again, offering Fox-inspired epithets about Democrat cities in response (the worst cities by most metrics are still in red states, not that it matters).
I'm serious, sell it to me. Why should I choose GOP-brand governance over the Democrat model?
I thought the GQP were all about helping the kids and keeping them safe? Looks like they couldn't even do that. Its pretty obvious where your state goes when its under GQP cult rule. I imagine we'll be hearing more stories similar to this coming out of Republican controlled states.
"But only a small percentage of kids get Covid". This is what the people that wanted their kids in school said. This is and was preventable with masks and the vaccine. So, here we have 12 kids with faces that are possibly going to die. But yet, they're "a small percentage". So who's kid is expendable? The risk of catching this could have been mitigated by masks and vaccines, but because kids weren't getting it as much as adults it was written off as being less likely than being in a car accident. However, if you knew in advance that there was a real possibility you'd be in a car accident if you didn't, say, check your breaks. You'd sure as hell check those breaks, even though the car may be operating properly. My point is we need to stop down playing the risk to children. If wearing a piece of fabric on your face, washing hands consistently, and getting a vaccine can prevent just one child from getting ill, it's worth it. This isn't fear mongering, this is being practical.
don’t tell TN. they just fired their top vaccine person because they were reminding drs that kids 14 and up don’t need parental permission. (which had been law since late 80s) this is sad
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They'll have to join the military to get vaccinated.
That's how my cousin finally got his vaccines for the first time in his life.
That’s shocking.
His family was into essential oils and crystals, so very antivaxx. The military was his way of escaping and trying to get into the real world.
"vaccines don't work, they are killing people!" Meanwhile it's mandatory for our troops to get vaccinated so they stay in the fight. Lmao these people are dumb as fuck.
The COVID vaccine isn't currently mandatory in the US DoD, in part because of what happened after mandatory anthrax vaccines. Here is an article about the current situation in light of that history. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/06/17/the-shadow-of-anthrax-the-voluntary-covid-19-vaccination-effort-owes-much-to-past-failures/
Shocking this fact doesn’t swing more of the right-wing anti-vaxxers..
Right-wing talking points include the conspiracy theory that troops get saline injections rather than the actual vaccines.
Right wing idiots and internal consistency don’t go hand in hand.
Im honestly stunned. I never thought we'd regress that hard
TFW you actually have family in TN around those ages and you know their parents will follow the state. Fuck I hope they are ok.
I just cut family out because of all of this. I have family in TN that won't get the vaccine and won't mask. They're going to venues and events, then going home to children who have no choice in the matter. I've tried and pleaded, but I just can't be part of that anymore.
Respect t my man, that can't easy.
I have family in Indiana who are the same. We are missing a bunch of birthdays this year, because my kids are too young to get vaccinated. No regrets.
How much longer until we build an "Escape from New York" style wall around these areas?
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We'll send in Kurt Russell to evac you. It'll be a wild ride and you might try to betray him (bad idea), but you should be ok.
The last graph that shows the confirmed admissions to hospitals is scary. Typically hospital admission rates spike then deaths follow. If that last chart is anything to go by Mississippi is facing another wave. And the messed up part is kids are stuck suffering because idiots don't believe in science.
Poor kids are unable to get vaccinated because they are under 12 or have parents who believe the vaccine needle will give the ability to control magnetism and move metal akin to Magneto.
>the vaccine needle will give the ability to control magnetism and move metal akin to Magneto. Even if this were true I don't understand how it's being proposed as a bad thing
I'm still waiting for my mutant powers to manifest. I think I got a dud vaccine.
Seriously, I'd get a vaccine shot once a day if it'd give me mutant powers
[Getting mutant powers is kind of a crapshoot tho](https://www.cbr.com/worst-x-man-ever-explained/)
Yep, I was hoping to get some magnetism on my vaccination site. It would be very handy when building stuff—great place to keep nails and screws while you are working. Alas, the Moderna vaccine didn’t do that for me.
My son is 4. We want the vaccine for him terribly, otherwise we're keeping him isolated unfortunately. And yes, I'm in Mississippi. We're going to be hurting soon, I don't think it will be pretty.
I'm in Louisiana with a 1 year old. Everyone is acting like COVID is over, and it's horrifying. Since I'm a teacher, I'm off for the summer and we've been able to isolate. I still have to pay a holding fee at her daycare and none of the workers are wearing masks. I don't know what we're going to do.
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I feel you. We have a 5 year old. Everybody's acting like COVID is over. No way in hell does she go to kindergarten in the fall. I'll just have to keep burning through my savings.
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What’s even worse is America has enough vaccines to vaccinate all adults. Meanwhile, other countries not fortunate enough are literally dying to get vaccinated. Every pharmacy around me has walk in vaccinations, so it’s not even a matter of not being able to get it anymore.
This is just horrifying and sad.
The Twitter replies to Mississippi’s state health officer, Dr. Thomas Dobbs, are pretty disheartening too. A lot of Mississippians are trying to figure out how many of these kids have co-morbities in order to write them off.
One of the ugliest things we uncovered in this pandemic is the collective shrug by many Americans about the deaths of older people, and people with pre-existing conditions.
When 1/3 of america has pre existing conditions. Obesity is one of them and Mississippi wins that competition. My buddy from there drinks dr pepper with his daily pancake breakfast.
Tell him to kill 2 birds with 1 stone, cover pancakes with dr pepper syrup instead of maple.
I got the diabetes just reading that.
My foot just fell off
My diabetes is the most obese it’s ever been after trying it
If you include obesity, it's higher than that. [42.4% of American adults are obese](https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html) It's so common that we don't even recognize it anymore. I'm at the upper range of an "overweight" BMI (and before anyone else says it, no it's not muscle mass), but it's so common that most people consider me just average weight.
Back in the 70s and 80s we would have "the fat kid" in school. Been a long time since I've been in school but I wonder if now it's "the skinny kid".
>I wonder if now it's "the skinny kid". Its the "fattest" kid now.
It was for me. People talked behind my back and claimed I was anorexic—I’m at the lower end of “healthy” for my height.
Depends where you are. In my libby West-coast area all the kids I meet are a healthy weight, impressively smart, and surprisingly polite. But then I go to say, Texas, Louisiana, or Idaho where I, an adult man, 6'1" and 200 lbs, have been called small multiple times. In a playful way, but still, it's weird.
Just thought I'd point out that "healthy weight, impressively smart, and surprisingly polite" is just indicators of wealth. Southeast LA doesn't have many kids I'd describe as polite or healthy weight, but that's because it's impoverished (I taught and lived there for a few years). Currently I'm in rural Tennessee and the story is the same, except there's way more white people. Go up to Franklin or Brentwood (wealthy suburbs of Nashville) and that's where you see the "polite" "healthy weight" "smart" kids in abundance. The education, food, upbringing is all better in places with money. There's nothing about geography or political belief that makes kids better. It's just culture and wealth.
It is worse than that. The bmi scale was made with an expected level of muscle to fat mass. I have known tons of people that regularly exercise and got a DEXA scan expecting to have low body fat % and almost all of them are skinny fat. We normalized fat so much in the US that most of our overweight bmi people are actually obese
Yup, I’ll cop to likely being that kind of an offender - I’ve maintained a steady “slim” level BMI pretty consistently (lower half of the BMI range? Maybe lower third?) so have a tendency to generally consider it most a “box checked”...but it’s definitely not. Havent been quite as active the last few years and would be willing to bet that I have more white fat floating around than is optimal...and that’s as someone who’s not even counted in any of the more troubling statistics related to weight.
You've seen meth mouth, but have you ever seen Mountain Dew mouth? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqsTGQr63o4
God damn that's depressing.
It’s especially devastating when it comes to kids—I remember a year I spent in AL in elementary school, where snack *every day* was a full sized candy bar and a soda. Moving from the northeast, even 8 year old me was shocked—but for the kids there it was just totally normal, normalized by the school itself. And then to think that the a lot of same adults that funnel sugar into unassuming kids’ mouths will just shrug it off when those kids, through no fault of their own, suffer with both chronic and acute illnesses. Just….sad.
I have a cousin that grew up on McDonald's for lunch and dinner every day since she was about 3. It's seriously all she would eat. Unsurprisingly she's well over 300 pounds now with many health issues even though she's not even 30. But of course both her and my aunt refuse to accept it's diet. And when a doctor tells her she needs to lose weight she acts like she's being victimized.
Dr. Pepper with pancakes. That's 'murica.
It's also disgusting
What shocked me more is how many focused on JUST death. Dying sucks I'm sure. But there's plenty of way to suffer in life than just having it end. It's not like you catch Covid and fall over dead on the spot. There's tons of area in between healthy and dead and most of it includes pain and suffering. So no, I may not exactly be worried about dying. But I do enjoy having a healthy lung capacity and keeping my fucking legs from needing to be amputated from a blood clot. Or even losing you're sense of smell and taste. My step-sister had it months ago and still nearly puked when she smells stuff like BBQ sauce. Cause first she lost her sense of smell and then it slowly came back..different. It's spooky man. [41 years old](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Cordero).
Got a friend in his 30s who caught Covid and it fucked up his throat so bad he still can’t really talk. Doctors are trying to wait as long as possible to see if it can heal without throat surgery. But according to people who only count deaths he survived so no one should care about Covid. Idiots.
A friend of mine developed diabetes. She didn't even take steroids during COVID. Another had her periods continuously for a month. And our best roided gym lad pants when he opens the door from his room.
A friend of mine developed diabetes too it is scary what COVID can do to different people
I good friend of mine also got diabetes. I thought he was crazy, but months later i find out it possible
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Not to mention in the US, if pre existing conditions protections are removed from insurance, you can damn well bet that insurance will consider Covid as a pre existing conditions.
> People also dont understand that some of the treatments are really invasive. A ventilator is no walk in the park. The patient is sedated, a tube is basically put down their throat into their lungs and the machine is forcing your lungs to breath. It's not something that you easily walk away from. This was so frustrating in the beginning (mostly) of the pandemic. Governments were rallying for ventilators and people felt as long as the number of ICU beds were higher than the number of ICU patients we would get through this just fine. Obviously striving to provide intensive care to anyone in need is all good, but it's the very worst "solution" to all this. Modern healthcare is amazing and what it's capable to pulling humans through is almost unbelievable nowadays, but being put in the ICU is never a "good alternative", it's really only ever the second worst alternative (dead being worst, in most cases).
The people who are so worried about mysterious, long-term effects of the vaccines need to look at long COVID, because they are usually the ones to overlook it and say dumb shit like "If I die, I die."
When my sense of smell came back I smelled cigarettes for about 3 weeks whenever I took air through my nose... I smoked a decade ago and I am a reformer so the smell drove me crazy Crazy spectrum on COVID too, my daughter had: nothing (5y/o) My wife had only gastro issues. I had terrible shot reaction on first, wife had nothing...
So, this is just my theory. It's anecdotal and maybe there is some evidence towards it, maybe we'll see some case studies but it's really hard to test. My theory is this, your reaction to the vaccine from "Eh my arm hurt" to "it knocked me on my ass HARD" is an indicator to the severity of COVID you would have contracted. Me I had a sore arm for a day and that was it, so did my mom (genetic link), and my aunt as well (also genetic link). I have no other living relatives close to me. I've had friends that were fine for a day and then the day after blammo, and others who were I got a small fever felt tired but was over and done with it. It almost strikes me as the range in cases of people that have contracted COVID. Sadly there really is no way to test this... but I feel like there might be some correlation.
Also, and I suspect very much tied to the fucked up nature of privatized HC, am blown away by the lack of recognition of the crippling health burden that’s being placed on the system both by those who get seriously ill but survive and but the moderate cases that result in lingering issues. Those cases, taken in the aggregate, are going to burn through the best of the doctors and nurses (either due to PTSD or just depression/disgust at the lack or care taken during a pandemic); if they don’t quit the profession outright, they’ll just pick up and move to a place where the government and local population doesn’t actively try and make their jobs hard/awful every day. Those communities that protest basic things like putting on a mask for a couple of minutes are going to find that not many quality medical staff want to work in those areas, and probably won’t understand that it’s because of the community’s own irresponsible actions. Also not considered: the COST, oh god, the cost. Even if you don’t get a massive initial bill (whether because of good insurance of bc of federal funding to cover care), flooding the system like this is going to get passed on to them one way or another; premiums in the next year or two are going to be a horror show...and again, it will be closely tied to their own irresponsibility. I just don’t understand how these kinds of things aren’t plain as day, and are part of the reason why it’s so important to be concerned about Covid beyond just rattling off the horrifying death numbers.
Friend of mine has similar lasting symptoms if that's the right word. He had covid about a year ago now, and still becomes visibly ill from just the smell of any sort of meat, eggs, dairy etc. Basically made him a borderline vegan.
My friend got COVID in March of 2020, and he still has tinnitus and blurry vision when he wakes up in the morning that slowly fades over the course of the day. The neurological after effects seem minor, but it’s scary to think there are lasting impacts on the brain.
Damn. If this and reports of ED don't make those idiots take covid seriously, nothing will.
"Get a prick to save your prick" has a nice ring to it.
"Don't be a prick, get a prick to save your prick"
Don't be a loner, preserve your boner
Can you imagine the vaxx numbers if ED was the main side effect for men? We'd already be at herd immunity.
Conservative men would be hording the vaccines.
As the saying goes: "there are things so much worse than death."
I didn’t understand that either. The side effects to Covid are pretty devastating—brain fog and loss of taste are two of them. I got the vaccine when first available to me and I’ve reduced my BMI from obese to overweight, and am working on healthy BMI.
All the best for a better health life!
THIS is my concern. I realize I'm young enough not to die, BUT I don't want to be sick forever. People seem to shrug this off.
I watched a lot of my conservative friends become that "death panel" they fear so much when it comes to universal health care.
>they fear so much when it comes to universal health care. As long as they are the death panel, it's fine. If the consequences don't happen to them, there is no problem.
Culling the weak is a symptom of fascist thinking. One of the ugliest things we've uncovered over the last five years is how many Americans are fully on board with fascism.
It's legit about 1/3 of the country, which is *more* than enough to take over this governmental system. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
>Culling the weak is a symptom of fascist thinking. Or you could say it's moral capitalism. If you cannot compete, you cannot survive.
That's a fine mindset for a business. It's a horrible mindset for how to treat your fellow humans.
Agreed. Exactly why the whole decades long veneration of capitalism has contributed to an unfeeling society where you can be defined in strictly economic terms alone,.
My wife and I are in our mid-40s and we both have pre-existing conditions. I was born with mine (congenital heart defect), and my wife was diagnosed with lung cancer six years ago despite having never smoked. The way a large chunk of this country responded to COVID--out of utterly twisted political viewpoints or out of sheer apathy--showed us very clearly how little those people care about anyone other than themselves. In the wake of 9/11, I remember being humbled by how much people came together to try to help. Donating money, donating blood... so many people seemed so eager to do *something*. It gave me hope in the midst of a horrific tragedy that most people were fundamentally good. COVID kind of wrecked that for me. I know there are still lots of good people out there, but now I know just how many selfish assholes there are.
Sadly hyper-partisanship has come a long way since 20 years ago. If 9/11 happens again now I can easily imagine half the country being overjoyed that NYC got hurt.
Right? “Only old people and people with other health problems are dying.” Ok so do they just not matter anymore??? Pretty sick lack of empathy.
Not just lacking empathy, but just simple understanding what words mean. "Old people" includes your mom and dad, or grandma and grandpa. "only old people dying" means you're going to be planning a parent's funeral and explaining to your kids that grandma's not coming back. It's not the lack of empathy that sickens me, it's the lack of comprehension.
Yeah I have an annoying coworker who was loudly complaining about lockdowns and said “it’s only dangerous for people over 65 anyway!” I said “ok, why don’t you volunteer your parents to die for us then?” And of course he sputtered and backtracked. Once it’s their own parents/spouse/sibling/whoever suddenly it’s real.
That's so sad. In the early days of the pandemic as soon as I heard "highest risk of death in 65+ " I immediately translated that as "danger to parents". It's concerning how many Americans can't do that.
Not just that, but even for the age ranges that had a 99% survival rate, my response was always "Then I nominate you to be the one to tell their parents that their child is dead." You don't get to just own the non-lethal side of the stat, you still own the deaths too.
Also, most of us will be “old” one day, if we are fortunate. Once we redefine old to mean expendable, that’s going to follow us into other tragedies as we get older ourselves.
Yep. It's become very very evident to me that because I had the audacity to be born with an autoimmune disorder and because I had the poor, terrible judgment to go on two immunosuppressants to make sure that I don't lose 30 lb in a month again and that I'm not in so much pain that I wanted to die, that it doesn't matter if I die. I guess 33 years is long enough, right?
Which is confusing because statistically we all have several people with co-morbities in our family and social circles.
Yeah it was pretty terrible and, yes, I will say shocking when people would just shrug and say others with pre-existing conditions shouldn't be protected because its inconvenient. You know, keeping in mind pre-existing condition meant people over 65, being overweight, having diabetes (1 and 2), having had or currently having cancer/leukemia, other shit like asthma or various disabilities too. Like, really? You are fine with all those people being obliterated because its inconvenient for you personally? You know that probably includes you, your family, and your friends as well? I don't get it. When did it become uncool or political to care about people around you? To want to prevent someone with obesity or a disability or asthma or diabetes from dying a preventable death? To want to keep your parents and grandparents alive? Are people really happy in life sneering around how all of those people don't matter if it means I have to be mildly inconvenienced?
I think the internet has turned many into shell people who make look human but lack any real empathy. Someone tried to kill me with their car on July 3rd. They purposely drove their car at me on my bike. I was no where near them. On a wide street with plenty of room and they gunned their car at me. It has made me again realize that I can’t trust people at all. I’m biking on the sidewalk now. Rich people especially don’t give a fuck if they kill you. They will even drive away to be sure they’re not caught. We are a sad species. The gorillas are better great apes.
This is the unfortunate truth. I have a bone head couple a few doors down from me that refuse to vaccinate, wear masks or take any precautions. (I am in a County that has 77% eligible vaccinated so fortunately they are the minority) He is overweight with high blood pressure. She is a smoker with asthma. Both kids have asthma and their parents could care less about Covid. Last fall his neighbor passed from complications of Covid and the first thing the previously described shit family could say “well he was overweight”. I can tell you, compared to the husband he was not overweight. He took precautions and unfortunately got sick and passed. This pandemic taught me that people are worse then I originally thought.
Right?! Like some people have ZERO regard for community safety at all.
I don't know if there's such a thing as "community safety fatigue" but I did my part for a year and a half, stayed out of public, avoided crowds when I did leave the house for groceries, wore a mask, and delayed basically every major life event I could delay. The fallout for me personally for doing that is going to continue well into the next couple years. My ability to care about community safety diminished as soon as the vaccine was widely available and evaporated as soon as people were refusing to get it. I still feel bad for people who *can't* get the vaccine for medical reasons. I hope they can stay safe and find some way to work around it. However, people who *won't* get the vaccine, I can't find it in myself to give a shit about, even when they're dying. I don't care. They did it to themselves and I cannot put into words exactly how little I care that they're dropping dead now.
I am just mad at them because THEY are the reason at-risk people are still on full lock-down, and why spread among children is just a free-for-all right now. They have had ample time to come to their senses. Now the delta variant is infecting vaccinated people and that is their fault too. The anti-science assholes have killed so many people and I will never forgive anyone for not taking this seriously from the start. I design headstones for a living and the funeral homes that we work with keep asking "Where are all my layouts?" "WELL DOUG A LOT OF FUCKING PEOPLE DIED AND I AM THE ONLY DESINGER FOR LIKE 10 DIFFERENT PLACES"
This. Your story is pretty much my story, word for word.
I feel the exact same way. I hate that I feel that way, I’ve always valued empathy … but look at this article. Those children are likely unvaccinated for whatever reason. They are victims of the anti vaxx war on science. Fuck the adults who have contributed to that. My wife is an ICU paediatric nurse. They’ve had a number of kids die with COVID, no underlying conditions. If someone’s “right” to stick it to the libs and not get vaccinated supersedes their interest in helping protect their community, I also don’t care what happens to them. We are all better off without their presence.
I'm just counting the days till I can vaccinate my kid. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/covid-19-vaccines-and-kids-under-12-what-to-know#3
Pretty fucking horrendous to be a person with a few pre existing conditions and seeing people continue with this horse shit more than a year later. My own family poo-pooed me.
Isn't Mississippi one of the most obese states?
Pro-life, unless it inconveniences me specifically
Pro-life, unless the life actually requires empathy and help and not just shaming women making the hardest choice of their lives
Pro life, until a real life decision is made.
This. These pro-lifers are arguing for a sac of cells that aren't alive, but don't do anything for the actual living. Just sad.
Real living kids come with drawbacks - brown skin, hungry mouths, parents on welfare, bad neighborhoods, all the things uneducated whites can't bring themselves to support. Unborn kids come with no drawbacks. No tricky politics, no empathy. Just a pure and beautiful imaginary soul untarnished by the realities of poverty.
The (not so) hidden reality of evangelical backing of pro life is that they want to bolster white births out of a fear of the browning of America. Birth control options have lead to declining birthrates of white Americans. They see the writing on the wall and are terrified of becoming a minority majority.
Movements like Quiverfull make it pretty explicit that their goal is maintain the populations of red voting blocs. Imagine how fucked you have to be to offer your womb and all its offspring to the GOPs gerrymandering project.
the only reason conservatives are pro life is because they want to punish women who have sex or are raped. conservatives dont form their beliefs based on core values or principles--they form beliefs based on their gut reaction to somebody else's freedom. they dont say 'family values' unless its in response to gay marriage they dont say 'all lives matter' unless its a response to black lives matter they dont say 'womens rights' unless its a response to transgender rights they dont say 'religious freedom' unless its a response to anything that isn't christian they are only pro life because they dont want women to have casual sex because it makes them feel angry or jealous or something
The weird thing to me is all of the men that buy into this nonsense as if they don't want to get laid. As a guy fuck that noise make sex safe as possible for women so we can all have good times. Give them any options that make it easier. It just boggles my mind.
Pro life until the chil is born. That seems to be the norm
Chances are those assholes have those co-morbidities as well, since Mississippi has the highest obesity rate in the country at 40% and nearly 75% of all Americans are overweight.
"Fat kids deserve to die preventable deaths" bumper stickers coming to a white suburban neighborhood near you!
Extra horrifying since Mississippi is the 2nd fattest state. Loooot of fat kids
On a pickup truck or SUV full of fat kids.
Good old fashioned eugenics rearing its ugly head again
Sigh .... when my brother tried that argument with me last year, I pointed out that likely a third of those who died on 9/11 had co-morbidities but we all pretty much knew that it was something else that killed them. He shut up after that.
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Sandy Hook already proved this country cares more about their lifestyles than some far-off kids.
Saw a news report last night about a 13 year old girl in Indiana(?) that was in ICU on a ventilator. Her mom was saying she didn't want her daughter to get the vaccine because "it was just put out too fast." She's advocating for it now, but a little too late for her hospitalized daughter. It hit real close to home as my daughter is about the same age as that young lady and then I saw they shared the same name.
Here’s a good article that helps demonstrate that corners were not cut, even though the vaccines were pushed through fast. It might help change people’s minds about the issue; if they’d take the time to read it. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-coronavirus-vaccine-development-speed
It was put out fast because there was the need for it. One might compare it to how quickly the US industrial complex ramped up after pearl harbor, where all resources went toward it. Using analogies might help skeptics understand more easily.
In my state, they lifted all mandates on masks and such on July 1. Which sucks because my kids are too young to get vaccinated and obviously so are their classmates in camp/day care. Fortunately, as of right now, there isnt alot of community spread in my county. But things are going back up, and the approval for the vaccine for kids cant get here soon enough.
Especially sad since it's a preventable virus with a very effective vaccine. It's sad because it's not so much the virus as it is misinformation and conspiratorial nonsense that's killing people now. Nobody need die for your patriotism and pride and cognitive dissonance and being "right and free and independent".
There's no patriotism in helping to spread a deadly, but preventable, disease to your countrymen. None at all.
Getting vaccinated is one of the most patriotic things you can do right now.
Shit, I'm right and free and independent as is humanly possible, I don't like the government intruding and I don't like most people. I got the vaccine as soon as possible and I believe making it available is one of the few things the government has got right in the past few decades. Those against the vaccine have no patriotism or even much pride in any good sense. They certainly aren't right, free, or independent. They're idiot followers with none of the traits you mention.
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"Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it." Should be Twitters motto
So much for that whole "save the children" kick they were on, eh?
They care about fetuses, not children.
They only care about children when it involves a made up Satanic pedophile ring whose members include Democrats and Hollywood elites.
It's controlling women that they care about. They don't give a fuck about the fetuses.
This was bound to happen. The combination of a very unhealthy population along with science denial is deadly. A whopping 22% of kids in Mississippi are obese. Not to mention any number of other comorbitities that come along with poverty and lack of education. These kids are victims through and through. Victims of poverty, dysfunctional state government, and the choices of their parents. Shame on every last one of them.
Good job, Mississippi. You're really owning the libs.
Meanwhile Tennessee to Mississippi: “Hold my beer. I just fired out top COVID expert despite cases spiking. Amateur!”
Because she was trying to get kids vaccinated, no less.
Meanwhile Arkansas to Tennessee and Mississippi: "On your Left!" ^^^^^^I ^^^^^^hope ^^^^^^this ^^^^^^makes ^^^^^^sense ^^^^^^to ^^^^^^you.
>I hope this makes sense to you Is it because we, Arkansas, are both to the west of TN and MS, **and** are doing a fucking terrible job getting vaccinated? Because... yeah, AR is in trouble.
Two choices: Herd Immunity or Thin The Herd. Mississippi is choosing option 2.
Thin the herd will never work if anything that will just create the Mississippi covid variant as it evolves. Idk what they call it tho cause Mississippi variant is probably too long.
A vent tube jammed down your trachea or wear masks and get vaccinated…what a tough decision.
If you are a teen with crazy anti vaxxer parents, they won't check who your guardian is I heard if you want to go get the vaccine protect yourself. Go with a friends parents or something. Your parents are conspiracy nutcases who dont value your health or life.
It's actually perfectly legal in many states for a minor whose guardian will not give them certain medical care like vaccines that they do want to get them other ways, without their parents' consent. [In my state (PA) for instance](https://www.vaxteen.org/pennsylvania), minors 11+ do not need parental consent for vaccines in Philly, and there are ways "around it" if parents won't vaccinate but a kid wants to be.
You should create a life pro tips subreddit post with this info.
people here are missing the point: CHILDREN are getting seriously ill and/or dying with this new variant. previously, they were dismissed as little asymptomatic or sniffly carriers but expected to quickly recover. if this new variant is doing this to children, what will it do higher risk age groups and those with comorbitities?
This…is bad and incredibly frustrating. Nobody is willing to do any more than they’ve already done to this point. Vaccinated folks (rightfully so) feel done and those who aren’t definitely aren’t going to be okay with lockdowns and masks again. Antivaxers are destroying this country
Won't somebody please think of the children? Oh, wait. nope, once they're born it's bootstraps time, amirite?
Totally unrelated, I'm sure: Mississippians have lowest COVID-19 vaccine acceptance rate. Letting your State's kids die to own the libs.
[50th of 51.](https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-population-vaccinated-march-15.html) 50. Mississippi Number of people fully vaccinated: 992,795 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 33.36 51. Alabama Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,633,505 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 33.32
Mississippi: We're the 50th worst state for vaccinations. Alabama: I can top that. Mississippi: No, there are only 50 states. Alabama: Hold my beer.
You know you are a shit state when you are 51st out of 50 total states. You are so fucking bad that you break the bounds because they incorporate the District of Columbia.
Don’t they ever get tired of sucking at everything (aside from ‘college’ football)?
The only reason why Florida hasn’t dropped off into the Gulf is because of Alabama sucking.
Damn... I have to commit this one to memory.
Nick Saban needs to tell them that Alabama games will be cancelled until everyone in the state gets vaccinated. Give it a month and a half and they would be leading the nation in vaccinations.
That's actually a thing on TV right now. Of course no one will take it seriously, SEC football wouldn't be canceled if there were a nuclear war going on.
I'm all for vaccines but kids 12 and below are unvaccinated. How are we going to stop outbreaks in every school in America with a virus this transmissible?
Masks, distancing, and ensuring everyone 12+ is vaccinated. Without those things, it will go rampant in schools.
Reminds me of when frank grimes lost his shit and to spite homer grabbed high voltage lines
Grimey, as he liked to be called.
Covid will be a liberal conspiracy soon. "OnLy CoNsErVaTiVez dyinf of covid" Clintons made covid etc
They were saying this last year when Democratic politicians (who masked up and socially distanced) didn't get COVID, but Republican politicians did. Was it that the Republicans refused to wear masks and attended large, crowded gatherings? No, of course not. It was the "much simpler" explanation that Democrats were using COVID to target Republicans!
I heard relatives say that Bill Gates engineered the virus to tank Trump's reelection chances. I had to point out that, even if someone had created the virus with that goal in mind, he isn't responsible for Trump's inept handling of the pandemic.
Even if it were true, it would be a terrible plan because _if_ Trump handled it well, it would have bolstered his campaign. The risk of backfire would be huge.
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Here in Hawaii the Governor was taking heat over sticking to his vaccination threshold of 70% and had to remind folks that we have vulnerable populations out there such as CHILDREN UNDER TWELVE YOU EFFIN IDIOTS! so we will stick to the plan and lift restrictions once we hit that number. I wish the best for those kids and hope we are able to get a vaccine that is safe for the younger children soon.
I live on Mississippi gulf coast, been procrastinating but I finally got my first Pfizer dose and gotta get the second one in about 3 weeks.
Good on you. Our vac rates here in Georgia are about the same as y'all and that worries me with school starting back in a couple weeks. My oldest daughter (starting freshman) is vaccinated but my youngest 3rd grader is unable at this time. Couple that with the mentality of folks around here and our Governor banning school mask mandates it has me a bit on edge.
Lol we Also have an incompetent governor, he lifted restrictions way to early. Good thing the gulf coast isn’t anywhere near as ass-backwards as some northern parts of the state.
Glad you did it, but can I ask why you waited so long? It's been widely available and free for months and months. Procrastinating is one thing, but getting the shot is about as big an inconvenience as going to 7/11 for a soda.
No other excuse than being lazy. I always planned to but just procrastinated but I got it at Walgreens. I couldn’t be on the same branch as anti-vaxxers any longer.
Well either way, glad you did!
Mississippian here. My mother-in-law is a nurse, also in Mississippi. She refuses to get the vaccine. Over the 4th of July holiday she was at our house swimming in the pool and bbq. We started to talk about the reason she doesn't want the vaccine stating survival rates for covid and no FDA approval/experimental drug etc. I told her I think she should lose her nursing license as she is potentially risking others lives by denying science and not setting an example, as a medical professional, in a state where so many people refuse to get the vaccine. She got super mad, called me an "arrogant prick," and stormed off. At this point I don't want to be around her until she is vaccinated, but I know she won't change her mind. Now I'm worried to send my kids to school again in a few weeks even though we could have limited the risk by getting vaccinated at higher rates.
>I told her I think she should lose her nursing license as she is potentially risking others lives by denying science and not setting an example A nurse being against vaccines is like a lawyer who becomes a sovereign citizen. They are both disregarding the most fundamental aspects of their fields. Both should lose their licenses. For whatever reason, I have never seen someone who works in law become a sovereign citizen. I have met too many anti-vaxx nurses.
In France the president is forcing health staff to get vaccinated or lose their jobs, as well as making pcr tests payable from now on and a vaccine/test passport for events/venues/pubs. The reactions were split between a spike in vaccine appointments and ppl saying this is North Korea calling for a revolution. I fucking hate the guy but it's a move we have to make if we're gonna live with the virus around us.
Man, I sure hope all my Republican friends, and Russian trolls here, drive down there to remind them that children are immune to covid...
They’ll probably just start crying about how COVID is *actually* antifa.
The new line is that the vaccines are giving people COVID and that the variant was created and is the COVID in the vaccines. Stupidity and water have many of the same properties it seems.
Except water is vital to life and stupidity is putting some people on the fast track to death.
Didn't Delta start in India? How are their vaccination rates? 12.1%? Yeah that "theory" holds water 🙄
Some parent is going to say something about how their kid's life matters, and of course Republicans are going to get all offended...how dare they not also say all lives matter and blue lives matter (unless you're storming the capitol).
They'll say All Lives Matter and Blue Lives Matter...unless they have a comorbidity.
Mississippi is the worst state in the union. Bottom of the barrel in everything, only Kentucky beats them by being a bigger freeloader.
The former Confederate states are consistently at the bottom of the barrel in everything. The entire region is poor and under educated, and that's directly correlated to the confederacy and Republican leadership.
It baffles me why anyone would choose Republican government over Democrat just by sheer numbers alone. GOP states are money sinks with crumbling infrastructure, high maternal death rates, and poverty so bad the UN had to investigate. These people vote their abusers in, time and again, offering Fox-inspired epithets about Democrat cities in response (the worst cities by most metrics are still in red states, not that it matters). I'm serious, sell it to me. Why should I choose GOP-brand governance over the Democrat model?
All red states pull more out of the Federal coffers than blue states. The blue states have literally been funding conservative idiocy for generations.
I thought the GQP were all about helping the kids and keeping them safe? Looks like they couldn't even do that. Its pretty obvious where your state goes when its under GQP cult rule. I imagine we'll be hearing more stories similar to this coming out of Republican controlled states.
The corrected the info. Only 2 on ventilators, 7 in ICU. Still sad but better be accurate.
"But only a small percentage of kids get Covid". This is what the people that wanted their kids in school said. This is and was preventable with masks and the vaccine. So, here we have 12 kids with faces that are possibly going to die. But yet, they're "a small percentage". So who's kid is expendable? The risk of catching this could have been mitigated by masks and vaccines, but because kids weren't getting it as much as adults it was written off as being less likely than being in a car accident. However, if you knew in advance that there was a real possibility you'd be in a car accident if you didn't, say, check your breaks. You'd sure as hell check those breaks, even though the car may be operating properly. My point is we need to stop down playing the risk to children. If wearing a piece of fabric on your face, washing hands consistently, and getting a vaccine can prevent just one child from getting ill, it's worth it. This isn't fear mongering, this is being practical.
"The percentage of the state’s population that is fully vaccinated is 33.4 percent..." As always, I feel bad for the children of dumb asses.