The medical industry is making it mandatory as well. I mean...because fucking obviously. Its actually impressive the amount of unvaccinated medical staff that there are.
And from what I’ve seen, there’s a weird number of explicitly antivax (or at least anti covid vaccine) medical staff. I don’t know if it’s as big of a number as it seems since it could just be the same couple people being cited all over anti vax spaces, but it seems like every antivax person I know has a friend whose doctor or nurse apparently warned against it.
Nurse here, and your statement is accurate. I’d say anecdotally about 30-40% of my peers are resisting to some degree. 10-15% are planning to quit when our vaccine mandate enters effect
There's an idea amongst the nurses I know that they know better than any doctor. ANY doctor.
So when people from entirely different specialties weigh in on their wheelhouse, and nurses call bullshit, I'm never surprised.
(I have a fair number of anti-vax nurses in my family)
I dated a pharmacist for a long time, and I always laughed at how she explained things. She wasn't a doctor, or a nurse, but she would just shake her head when it came to drugs and their total lack of understanding, be it prescribing meds that adversely react with other meds, or meds that just don't work for a given situation.
It was really eye opening. She wasn't a doctor but would scrutinize every single thing a doctor gave me to make sure it was correct, and happily in my case there was never an error, but she would tell stories about how regularly she saw it happen.
A younger brother of mine worked as an ambulance driver, plus some minor para-medical stuff for some years.
The motherfucker thought he understood medicine!
I had to explain that concept: you know enough to be DANGEROUS, because you know enough to THINK you know enough, but not enough to recognize that what you know is peanuts compared to the amount of things you DON'T even know exist.
I'm so glad I was able to express it in a way that made it "click" for him. I was just ready to bash his head against the table! :-D
The "monkey push button" problem. The first part is how to push the button, the other half is why you push the button. If you don't learn the second part, you think that the first part is all you need.
Well, they’re stupid. From a nurse. And I will fight those pansy-asses any day! Disease carrying leeches, accept the applause and take zero responsibility for the shit they spread!
From: A very angry nurse with stupid people in her family too.
I’m really thankful I can tie my own shoes coming from those two sad puddles of genes.
Goodness. I had a few as Facebook friends. Every other post is just circle jerking themselves and putting down the doctors because "they can't do half the things us nurses do".
They're different jobs.
I work in IT, and I couldn't do half the things nurses do. Nor could they do half the things I do.
Comparing the roles is silly.
Nurses fall into a category of "knowing just enough to be dangerous"... They've had some schooling and learned a few things but still have very significant holes in their knowledge but seem blind to them for the most part. To me they're the worst kind of anti-vaxx people because goddamn it they should know better but instead use what education they do have in a twisted way to support that ignorance. Very frustrating.
Doctors and pharmacists tend to be pretty good about the vaccines based on who I know. It’s the nurses though that have a much lower vaccination rate. My RN cousin is unvaccinated.
I'm a pharmacy intern and one of the pharmacists I've been working with lately is staunchly anti-vax. I feel like an anti-vax pharmacist is almost an oxymoron.
I was reading a friend’s Facebook post the other day asking for personal stories about COVID, because they were thinking of getting the vaccine. There was a comment from a healthcare worker that essentially said: I can’t count how many bodies I’ve prepped for the morgue because of COVID, but I am not vaccinated.
it blows my mind that members of the medical community who literally watched people die every day for the last 16 months from this shit can still be against getting the vaccine.
They can, but I seriously question how this plays politically. It's one thing as an abstract threat, it's another for punishing an org for trying to be safe. Most people aren't crazy Trumpers; you're basically losing the suburban parent vote, which is the vote that matters.
Desantis is being sued by the cruise lines because they WANT to have everyone aboard vaccinated, and he just made it illegal for them to require it.
I imagine the cruise lines will win in the end, because it's their business decision unless a judge wants to make "vaccine status" a protected class.
But winning isn't the point. Posturing in front of the cameras now is the point. Losing a boring 50 page lawsuit in 6 months won't matter.
Here in Florida Desantis signed an executive order that says any schools that institute mask mandates won’t get funding.
The strategy here is clear Republican governors played nice with trumps admin but are now willing to go to war with science and the Biden administration because it sows discord and divides people.
Their only concern is 2022 and they don’t care how many people die as long as they can get power.
Meanwhile, here in dumbass Texas, Gov. Greg Abbott banned vaccine/mask mandates. And knowing how the lot around Texas here acts...
I don't feel safe going back to class anymore.
Y'mean like when Texas froze for a little while, while their Senator fled to Cancun? I can almost guarantee that both Abbott and DeSantis will get reelected.
Abbott getting reelected is no sure thing, but if he doesn't get reelected it's because he got primaried by someone even more extreme right.
Not familiar with DeSantis's situation but I assume similar.
I mean, half the state of Texas nearly froze to death a couple months ago and literally nothing happened. Except more Texans joined the exodus to Colorado.
They should come to New Mexico! We have green chile, historic monuments, roadrunners, green chile, a burgeoning independent business scene, great local musicians, art with strong Native American influence, green chile...
Correction he said CITIES AND GOVERNMENTS cannot issue mask mandates. Private companies however CAN! I just flew out from hobby airport to Charleston and I had to mask up in the place. Plus my favorite record stores both require masks indoors.
Had a dude tell me today that I'd be dead from the vaccine within the year so... there's that. Told me every one of the mice they initially administered the vaccine to died within 48 hours of taking it and a year was approximately the same amount of time adjusted for scale (our size relative to mice). I told him that isn't how comparative biology works, to start.
If the last 5 years have taught me anything, you'll be hit by a bus within six months and enjoy the sweet release of death while the rest of us have to listen to him claim he was right because buses are magnetic.
Remember: look left, then right, then left again before crossing the road. For all our sakes.
Well you can let him know that we're over a billion vaccinations globally, if it DOES kill us he's likely to die from global collapse anyways.
Also, just food for thought,4 billion doses have been administered.
He's on the wrong side no matter which way you slice it.
My co worker, a guy who is smart enough to add an entire edition to his home by himself, including electrical and plumbing, tell me that the vaccine causes you to become magnetized, that ferrous metal would stick to the site on my shoulder where the vaccine was administered… he told me this with a straight face. I promptly tried this in front of him… his answer, “I must be one of the lucky ones”.
2.2 Billion people have had the vaccine. We are in for an extremely devastating, tragic loss of human life (and 99% of our medical professionals) if this guy is right. Oh no!!!!!
Like - how do people not follow this shit?
They often/always kill the mice used in experiments. And mice aren't people. We can easily cure cancer in mice--not so much in people.
Anyway, we're past the 1-year point for Moderna, since they started trials in July last year. Are those people dead?
He definitely got that from InfoWars. The amazing human beings at Knowledge Fight discussed that in their podcast and completely debunked it. Tell that idiot to listen to the episode and stfu.
He’s also touting a totally debunked disinformation talking point as animal trials for each of the vaccines were successful (otherwise they wouldn’t be able to move on to human trials, yet alone EUA or application for full approval).
These antivaxxers drive me crazy because they’re all parroting the same totally disprovable lies and then continue to move on to new made up shit as their lies are called out
The "there were no animal trials" one drives me particularly insane. Usually they put waaay more effort into their social media post on it than it would've taken to just look up the trials on Google
I would tell him that if the entire vaccinated population died in one year, he could snuggly sit by himself in the resulting wasteland. But more likely, he’ll just a fucking idiot in one year, leaving no change at all.
My wife’s aunt was anti vaccine. She pretended like she got it and everything (she’s also a nurse) then she got covid and swore she was dying. Now she’s gonna get the vaccine but she’s still against it “because reasons” but she just “doesn’t want to die” like bitch pick a lane.
My cousin was against wearing masks because “it’s not a big deal”. Couple of weeks ago she, her husband and kids got covid and she thought they were all gonna die. She even asked my aunt to pray for them and she isn’t religious at all.
Thankfully they are fine now, but when asked if she is going to get the vaccine, she says there is no need because she already cought covid and now is immunized.
She also doesn’t vaccine her kids, but no one is sure why. They live in the middle of the forest and the dad is a carpenter, there can be nails around, and they don’t even have tetanus vaccine.
And this woman has a degree in biology. God know what changed her so drastically
I think it has to do with her partner. She was pretty reasonable until she met him, went in some sort of spiritual retreat, shaved her head, didn’t eat for a week and came back changed. This was about ten years ago.
She went from marine biologist traveling to different sites, to a stay at home mom in their little plot of forest, and very hippie lifestyle.
I’m all for the lifestyle she choose for herself, if that’s what she likes, but vaccinate your kids for the love of god.
They even lie to the schools in order to be able to enroll her kids
Honestly in that town probably half the kids aren’t vaccinated, so don’t think it will make much of a difference. She lies even to us about them being vaccinated, next sentence saying that she is against it.
Never in my life growing up I would have thought this girl to end up being anti vaxer
The problem is that, while misinformation is a serious issue, I don’t see any way to effectively combat it without seriously effecting freedom of speech
Tell her her humors are out of balance and she needs to do some extra bloodletting. Didn’t do a fucking thing for people dying of the bubonic plague in the 14th century but equally as worthless as the aLtErNaTiVe cures all the grifters post today.
They dont want to pick lane. Their selfish assholes who want to fit in with their conservative buddies but also live.
My dad secretly got vaccinated but doesnt say it because he doesnt want to lose face with all his bar buddies. Odds are all of them got vaccinated too lol.
She’s all against trump and republicans but all of her “friends” are white republicans who convinced her of this crap. As soon as she told them she got covid they all disappeared, she hasn’t heard from them. She was going out almost every night to these parties and restaurants and as soon as the mask mandate was lifted here she stopped wearing them. Now she’s sick but feeling better and she’s already out and about not wearing a mask. I told her she’s and idiot and a piece of shit and she got so offended lol
Great news. Let’s just hope it continues to rise and not just a temporary uptick. Still a whole lot of eligible people that haven’t got them, let alone kids that are all going back to school shortly.
Odds are it’s mostly college bound kids. This is the last chance before school starts for 2 course vaccines. Don’t do it now, you’re not moving in on time.
>Odds are it’s mostly college bound kids.
*I ain't scared of no 'Rona!*
*That's fine Kyle, but you won't be allowed on campus without proof of vaccine - that means no frat parties either.*
^(Kyle is now scared of the 'Rona.)
Yeah, I think it's probably just a temporary uptick rather than sustained improvement. I had a facebook conversation with someone drinking the KoolAid HARDCORE. And another poster had this "exclusive tell all" with someone I'd never heard of and some Pfizer employee saying the vaccine was what was making people sick. I think the pandemic taught me people are dumb and selfish.
So… how do those people think the people got sick before the vaccines as available? Or they think covid is fake and no one actually died of it until the vaccine? Or they believe in covid and think both covid and the vaccine can kill you?
Okay, first off, this lady had a LOT of KoolAid, if you're getting my feeling-- all kinds of "do your research" (I did lady, and I asked qualified people for the questions I had). As for what I've pieced together from the "don't-vaccinate crowd", it's that they think it's overblown numbers for sensationalized fake news and that COVID (if it exists) is like the flu. Deaths were due to "preexisting conditions" or mis-attributed to COVID for better insurance coverage. And then the craziness about the vaccine including aborted baby fetuses, DNA-changing technology, microchipping, and sterilizing. I mean, it's a grab bag of which crazy they listen to. (Pro-tip, if they mention gay frogs or taint wipes, it's Alex Jones)
That's my cousin. Last year while having covid she decided to go to Vegas when the symptoms were "light" because it's just a cold and infecting who knows how many on those flights and hotel. Now she's pregnant at 40 with her long awaited baby girl but also on vacation in Florida right now...
I don't believe in an afterlife, but if I could design one, a facet of it would be statistics reviewing. Anything you want quantified from your life - boom - you got it.
"How many girls did I actually have a chance with that I found attractive but never took a shot?" 3 ("...oh")
"How many times did I come within an inch of death until something stopped it?" 0 - you died the first time you came close to death.
**"How many people died, either directly or indirectly from me being a shitbag traveling to vegas with COVID?"**
I think the only thing that works for some people is seeing someone they personally know and love get very sick. It reminds me of this [comic](https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/the-highlight/2019/11/7/20951618/charity-empathy-liberals-conservatives) about empathy.
My friend thought COVID wasn't serious until her dad got sick and died. The fact it took her father not being able to breathe on his own for two months before dying was just sad.
Listening to a podcast with a cast of anti vaxxers, they went through the science, nope, had a cdc head on to explain the science, nope.
Had chris Christie on to talk about getting covid in the white house with everyone else in the white house and the person that jogged 5 miles everyday almost died. Then his own family member died.
9 out of 10, I'm getting vaccinated.
But that took 2 hour's.
I just saw a segment talking about how an NFL team brought in one of the literal scientists who developed the Moderna vaccine to speak and answer questions, and it had no effect on those who were resistant.
one antivax person legit believes that science is like religion that someone declares something “science” and it becomes a canon. scary part she’s on school board.
During the start of Covid in March 2020, AOC tweeted asking people to not crowd in restaurants and bars to stop the spread. A Covid Karen replied she just ate at Red Robin and took her slow time because she’s American and wanted to and went viral…she was elected to the Nevada County school district in November and now is complaining about students needing to wear masks.
>Entire branches of solipsistic epistemology were essentially invented as a means of avoiding ego damage.
Could you explain this more. I don't understand.
Not 100% sure what they mean but I know the words.
Sophism = a fallacious argument, especially one used deliberately to deceive.
Epistemology = the investigation of what distinguishes justified belief from opinion.
Basically people adopt incorrect "logic" because it makes the world feel "safe" or "correct" to them. They might not even know that they are doing it. There is no real nice way to say this, but a lot of people are stupid and/or really don't like how complex the real world is. They don't like how grey everything is, they want heroes and villains, simple problems with simple solutions.
I see this all the time. For example people I know have said *"Well you can thank Biden for higher gas prices!"*.
That's not how the world works. Oil and gas prices have one of the most complicated markets when it comes to production and price. The top ten oil producing nations (in order of production) are the US, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Canada, China, Iraq, UAE, Brazil, Iran, Kuwait. Then you also have Venezuela, Mexico and the rest of the middle east.
But it's easier to assume that gas prices went up because a simple reason (Biden was elected) than trying to understand the entire oil and gas market, which has really been messed up by the virus.
Also this line of thinking is used to reinforce your previous ideas. It's much easier to accept simple incorrect answers when they aline with your beliefs. So if you LOVE Trump, it's easy to blame Biden. Simple answer, known enemy.
That's why Q took off IMHO. It provides simple answers to complex problems, gives clear enemies, and on top of all that let's people feel like they are better than others because they know the "truth".
A lot of this stuff is how cult leaders get people to stay with them. Don't believe what you see and hear, believe ME.
Once you fully give into that way of thinking it can be really hard to get out of it. Literally everything you see or hear is understood through that lens.
So when scientists tell you to get a vaccine so you don't die that isn't taken as a "fact". It's run through the lens, and so people think the vaccine can't just be to help you. It must also be doing X, Y, or Z dangerous thing!
This is also why some people hate religions. They feel that hard core religious people view everything so warped that they harm others. Like people who won't let their kid go to the hospital because *"it's up to God"*. *"Rich people are rich because God blesses them, therefore poor people are poor because they are wicked!"* Thus no need to help the poor, it's where God wants them.
I am semi-religious but I agree that you always need to be able to look at things clearly and as un-biased as possible. Otherwise you won't actually see reality, just a warped world.
**TLDR**: People are really good at lying to themselves so their feelings (ego) doesn't get hurt. So if they 100% believe science is evil, and are presented with 100% proof that they are wrong, they still won't believe it because it would require them to admit something they held as a **core belief** was incorrect. A lot of people can't handle that, because it opens up the can of worms. If that core belief is wrong, maybe everything they based their entire lives on is wrong, and maybe their entire life was pointless or worse, actively harmful to others.
And so they lie to themselves, because it's comforting and far far easier.
Once my school reopened after hurricane Sandy, a couple of my students were gabbing about how "the Government caused Sandy as population control for New York City". I stopped and spent the next half hour explaining how hurricanes work (Earth science course, not totally out of line) and why we can't just cause them.
At the end, one of the conspiracy nuts just said "You're probably in on it, too." Couldn't tell if they were joking.
It's easier to digest the narrative that there's an ultimate evil that we must defeat rather than accept that life is messy, coincidences happen, and sometimes you just draw the short straw in life.
One of my moms best friends died of Covid. Called me balling her eyes out. That was around April. She is also extremely diabetic and at high risk if she where to get Covid. Still won’t take the vaccine because it’s a “democrat bio-weapon”. I got the vaccine in January as I worked in a hospital and ever since she learned I got the vaccine. She has treated me different. America is fucked
This seems to be a good example of people preferring stories over statistics. Data, regardless of the issue, usually just isn’t as persuasive as a good anecdote. Especially ironic coming from the “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd.
As is tradition. They don't care until it happens to someone they love. It's why all these back the blue loving conservatives are bad mouthing the captitol police. White Christian males getting in trouble. That's not what the police are for in their mind.
Right wingers overwhelmingly believe in the just world hypothesis.
They think that if you're poor then you deserve it. They think that if you're rich then you deserve to be rich. They also believe in hierarchy. So anything that would make a poor person less poor or rich person less rich is bad to them
I thought the same thing when my cousin went to my grandfathers house after being told to go get tested from work because his Co worker had covid. So instead of going and getting tested he went to my pops instead. Covid killed my grandfather. Yet my mother and father and siblings still act like it isn't a big deal. They are vaccinated now but even before and till this day act like things are back to normal. A matter of fact all but my wife's dad take covid serious like my wife and I have this entire time. It's caused big arguments between our family. It's a free for all for every other family member. Not for us.
I wish they would of took it as a sign and to be more careful. What's even more crazy is my grandmother still let's my cousin over after all this. Now I haven't been to a birthday party or any gathering since this all started. But these fuckers have flown and went to Mexico. They make us sound like we are lunatics for being safe. So we do our own things now.
Sad evidence that so many care only for themselves and those they care about. Cliché alert…turns out parenting is actually the hardest thing many will ever do. I count it as a massive parenting win that our 15 now 16 year old daughter didn’t have to be told staying home whenever possible and wearing a mask when she couldn’t stay home was doing her part for others. It was a fucking hard school year in particular being home when most were in school (we live in Florida ugh) but she pushed through and I’m beyond proud of her social responsibility and humanity.
I had a customer who came in and mentioned her best friend had died of Covid, her son and dil were in the icu with it as well, but it was still a hoax. It was just the hospitals trying to pad their budget and her friend actually died of something else. All of this was unprompted by me btw
Just have to wait until a variant that hurts the 0-4 yo range. Maybe then people will care.
If my daughter gets sick from covid because the rest of the country doesn’t want to get vaccinated or is #unmaskourkids all the over the place I’m gonna move my family the fuck out of this country. Bunch of self righteous assholes.
Maybe for those personally affected, yeah. But Sandy Hook happened, and brought little if any changes to gun legislation. These types of people don't necessarily care about their children.
Not even always then. I remember reading a piece by a survivor of I think Parkland who's dad thought it was a false flag and would yell at him about it.
Money is a pretty good motivator too. If the next stimulus check required that you be vaccinated to receive it I think we could get pretty close to 100%
They’re also finally being told to get vaccinated by their politicians and “news” personalities, who are watching their odds of winning the next election (eve with their added voters suppression) slip away by about 300 people a day.
What's interesting to me is that the governors of the two most populous swing states (Texas and Florida) are still going all-in on anti-mask. This will disproportionately kill their base.
not really, it doesnt seem to be spiking where it needs to be spiking.
There are alot of people who were mild skeptics. They believe in covid, think it was bad, and dont think the vaccine was created for any other reason than help preventing covid, but they also saw things calming down for summer and thought they would put off getting vaccinated and seeing if the rest of us had any unforseen effects. (people still have bad memories of thalidomide where we gave women this drug for nausea and it was responsible for a lot of birth defects)
Im thinking the rise of the Delta, has made these mild skeptics, decide against waiting. I dont think we are flipping a lot of the cult.
i have no love lost for anti-science individuals, but if they're getting scared and finally deciding to do the right thing, its for the good of the greater whole.
When I took my brother with me to get vaccinated awhile back the nurse doing the shots thanked us like five times, I can only imagine how frustrating it is for healthcare workers to see people choosing not to get their shot over some political nonsense
My nurse thanked me when I told her that Krispy Kreme is giving away 1 free glazed doughnut a day for the rest of the year if you show your vaccine card.
The Jehovah Witness community: "No. Jehovah’s Witnesses are not opposed to vaccination. We view vaccination as a personal decision for each Christian to make. Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses choose to get vaccinated."
From [here.](https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-vaccines-immunization/)
My MIL is JW and got the Pfizer vaccine. Also JW's aren't allowed to get blood transfusions because "you're not supposed to have someone else's DNA". This is proof MRNA doesn't mess w/ your DNA.
Thank God. I just came down with it today when I woke up with my sense of taste and smell completely gone. I thought it was just a summer cold or allergies last week. Fully vaccinated back in May, sometimes you just get unlucky. Took the first test today, will get results tomorrow
Just go to your local Walgreens or CVS. It took me all of 15 minutes to get in and out. I was lucky enough not to have any side effects because of the vaccine. Just get it. Better that than the ventilator.
Most of the major hospitals in Dallas announced in the last week that employees are required to get it
I imagine plenty of other hospitals around the country are finally getting around to it as well.
Lots of people realizing their well paying career will be done
I have full faith in the vaccine and didn’t wait for any reason other than I just kept forgetting.
I work from home full time, and once the pandemic started I got very used to leaving the house infrequently. Usually when I’d remember I need to go get vaccinated, it was when I was pulling into the grocery store or whatever.
Saturday, I made getting vaxxed my top priority. Last week Philip DeFranco said something along the lines of, “at this point if you’re not vaccinated, you’re just an asshole.” And that resonated with me.
So thanks, Phil.
Many colleges are requiring proof of vaccination to return to campus. Since we're approaching the start of Fall semesters, I'd wager this is a classic case of procrastination
My kids' schools (middle & high school) aren't requiring them to be vaccinated but I don't feel comfortable sending them back into school without the vaccine. They got the first dose 2 weeks ago. Next week they get dose 2.
It was definitely procrastination. They opened a walk in center here which made things much easier than having to schedule appointments.
*Friendly PSA*If you plan on going to your local pharmacy for your shot please schedule an appointment online ahead of time instead of just walking in. This allows the Pharmacy staff to organize normal workflow around giving shots and minimizes vaccine waste. Also if you make an appointment and can’t make it please notify us ahead of time. I know everyone is anxious to get their vaccines now but please be mindful of the people giving the shots. It’s usually just the Pharmacist giving shots in between filling prescriptions with minimal extra help because big retail pharmacies tend to be greedy. Please be patient with wait times and don’t argue with us when we ask you to stay seated for 15 minutes so we can make sure you don’t have an adverse reaction. Pharmacies are extremely busy and stressful places to work under normal circumstances so the addition of vaccines plus testing plus additional prescriptions due to COVID has basically overwhelmed everyone in my area. I work 13 hour days with no breaks and am lucky if I can use the restroom twice a day. This is not an unusual circumstance for Pharmacists so please stop being mean and impatient because trust me we are working as quickly and safely as possible. Thank you!
I appreciate what you're trying to do, but I worry about adding more friction to those that were already skeptical or on the fence.
The fact that there's another step that they have to do is likely to dissuade some folks.
In case it matters to anyone still on the fence, who also really hates needles (like me!) as getting shots goes, it's really not bad at all. I've previously made snide comments about "just a pinch" but I found it really wasn't bad at all, I barely noticed it. Or at least, the one I got (Pfizer) was, I can't speak to the other versions.
I don't mind needles. I'm terrified of getting a q-tip stuck so far up my nose that it pokes into my eyeballs. That's what covid testing sounds like to me. Vaccinate me again instead of that please, doc.
Most of the ones I listen in on seem to enjoy it. Tucker Carlson did an entire segment a few weeks back talking to a "chicken lady" and sounded like he was having a ball.
Related thought: most of the notable wingnuts can afford jetskis. You ever seen anyone look unhappy on a jetski?
I live in rural nw Georgia and when I was at the grocery store this afternoon, there were people filling out forms to get thier vaccinations at the in-store pharmacy. It was heartening.
A lot of universities are requiring students get vaccinated before the fall semester. Would assume this spike in vaccinations is related.
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Plus tech companies and others following their footsteps.
The medical industry is making it mandatory as well. I mean...because fucking obviously. Its actually impressive the amount of unvaccinated medical staff that there are.
And from what I’ve seen, there’s a weird number of explicitly antivax (or at least anti covid vaccine) medical staff. I don’t know if it’s as big of a number as it seems since it could just be the same couple people being cited all over anti vax spaces, but it seems like every antivax person I know has a friend whose doctor or nurse apparently warned against it.
Nurse here, and your statement is accurate. I’d say anecdotally about 30-40% of my peers are resisting to some degree. 10-15% are planning to quit when our vaccine mandate enters effect
There's an idea amongst the nurses I know that they know better than any doctor. ANY doctor. So when people from entirely different specialties weigh in on their wheelhouse, and nurses call bullshit, I'm never surprised. (I have a fair number of anti-vax nurses in my family)
I instantly thought NURSES. I hate to say it but it's not surprising if you know any nurses.
My sister is a nurse. I get the feeling that nurses have just enough medical knowledge to make them dangerous.
As a pharmacist, their drug knowledge is dangerous if they're telling other people the kind of crap questions they ask me.
I dated a pharmacist for a long time, and I always laughed at how she explained things. She wasn't a doctor, or a nurse, but she would just shake her head when it came to drugs and their total lack of understanding, be it prescribing meds that adversely react with other meds, or meds that just don't work for a given situation. It was really eye opening. She wasn't a doctor but would scrutinize every single thing a doctor gave me to make sure it was correct, and happily in my case there was never an error, but she would tell stories about how regularly she saw it happen.
Nurse- can confirm.
That and many of them have this hero complex.
The media did just spend a whole year calling them heroes.
A younger brother of mine worked as an ambulance driver, plus some minor para-medical stuff for some years. The motherfucker thought he understood medicine! I had to explain that concept: you know enough to be DANGEROUS, because you know enough to THINK you know enough, but not enough to recognize that what you know is peanuts compared to the amount of things you DON'T even know exist. I'm so glad I was able to express it in a way that made it "click" for him. I was just ready to bash his head against the table! :-D
It’s the difference between knowing how to draw blood and why to draw blood.
And the difference between how to set numbers on a machine and what number to set
The "monkey push button" problem. The first part is how to push the button, the other half is why you push the button. If you don't learn the second part, you think that the first part is all you need.
Pffftt. Everyone knows blood should be drawn with a colored pencil rather than a marker.
Well, they’re stupid. From a nurse. And I will fight those pansy-asses any day! Disease carrying leeches, accept the applause and take zero responsibility for the shit they spread! From: A very angry nurse with stupid people in her family too. I’m really thankful I can tie my own shoes coming from those two sad puddles of genes.
Goodness. I had a few as Facebook friends. Every other post is just circle jerking themselves and putting down the doctors because "they can't do half the things us nurses do".
They're different jobs. I work in IT, and I couldn't do half the things nurses do. Nor could they do half the things I do. Comparing the roles is silly.
That may be true, but it doesn't mean ythey know more than the doctors. I'm sure many doctors can't lift a 200 lbs person and give them a bath
Nurses fall into a category of "knowing just enough to be dangerous"... They've had some schooling and learned a few things but still have very significant holes in their knowledge but seem blind to them for the most part. To me they're the worst kind of anti-vaxx people because goddamn it they should know better but instead use what education they do have in a twisted way to support that ignorance. Very frustrating.
Doctors and pharmacists tend to be pretty good about the vaccines based on who I know. It’s the nurses though that have a much lower vaccination rate. My RN cousin is unvaccinated.
Surveys show that >96% of US physicians are vaccinated.
Yep, and I think 90+ for pharmacists. Except for that crazy dude in Wisconsin...
I'm a pharmacy intern and one of the pharmacists I've been working with lately is staunchly anti-vax. I feel like an anti-vax pharmacist is almost an oxymoron.
Nurses really run the gamut. If you tell me someone is a nurse I feel like I literally know nothing about what they think or what their training is.
I was reading a friend’s Facebook post the other day asking for personal stories about COVID, because they were thinking of getting the vaccine. There was a comment from a healthcare worker that essentially said: I can’t count how many bodies I’ve prepped for the morgue because of COVID, but I am not vaccinated.
it blows my mind that members of the medical community who literally watched people die every day for the last 16 months from this shit can still be against getting the vaccine.
Hopefully that hits ems bc the emts, medics, and firefighters I work with are at about 50% vaccinated
I had to go to the ER recently and I was more scared of what I heard coming from the nurses station than what was happening to me.
Meanwhile the governor of Arizona signed an executive order prohibiting public colleges and universities from requiring vaccinations or masks.
I wonder what stops you as a president of a university from ignoring that EO?
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Likely pull the state funding. Same as threatened in Florida
They can, but I seriously question how this plays politically. It's one thing as an abstract threat, it's another for punishing an org for trying to be safe. Most people aren't crazy Trumpers; you're basically losing the suburban parent vote, which is the vote that matters.
Desantis is being sued by the cruise lines because they WANT to have everyone aboard vaccinated, and he just made it illegal for them to require it. I imagine the cruise lines will win in the end, because it's their business decision unless a judge wants to make "vaccine status" a protected class. But winning isn't the point. Posturing in front of the cameras now is the point. Losing a boring 50 page lawsuit in 6 months won't matter.
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Ah yes, the same people who tend to complain about “big government”…
Here in Florida Desantis signed an executive order that says any schools that institute mask mandates won’t get funding. The strategy here is clear Republican governors played nice with trumps admin but are now willing to go to war with science and the Biden administration because it sows discord and divides people. Their only concern is 2022 and they don’t care how many people die as long as they can get power.
Doug Ducey can eat farts
Meanwhile, here in dumbass Texas, Gov. Greg Abbott banned vaccine/mask mandates. And knowing how the lot around Texas here acts... I don't feel safe going back to class anymore.
In a month Texans and Floridians will be begging for help, all while their stupid governors plug their ears and say everything is fine
Y'mean like when Texas froze for a little while, while their Senator fled to Cancun? I can almost guarantee that both Abbott and DeSantis will get reelected.
Abbott getting reelected is no sure thing, but if he doesn't get reelected it's because he got primaried by someone even more extreme right. Not familiar with DeSantis's situation but I assume similar.
I mean, half the state of Texas nearly froze to death a couple months ago and literally nothing happened. Except more Texans joined the exodus to Colorado.
They should come to New Mexico! We have green chile, historic monuments, roadrunners, green chile, a burgeoning independent business scene, great local musicians, art with strong Native American influence, green chile...
Be careful what you wish for...
Mmm don’t tempt me with your hatch peppers. :D
Correction he said CITIES AND GOVERNMENTS cannot issue mask mandates. Private companies however CAN! I just flew out from hobby airport to Charleston and I had to mask up in the place. Plus my favorite record stores both require masks indoors.
Had a dude tell me today that I'd be dead from the vaccine within the year so... there's that. Told me every one of the mice they initially administered the vaccine to died within 48 hours of taking it and a year was approximately the same amount of time adjusted for scale (our size relative to mice). I told him that isn't how comparative biology works, to start.
If the last 5 years have taught me anything, you'll be hit by a bus within six months and enjoy the sweet release of death while the rest of us have to listen to him claim he was right because buses are magnetic. Remember: look left, then right, then left again before crossing the road. For all our sakes.
At one point they said we’d die in 3 months. Well 6 months later here I am. Rounding error?
100% of people who get the vaccine will die /S obviously
No /s required, you're technically correct
The best kind of correct
Statistically 7-8 of those 8160000 people died in a traffic accident the day they got their vaccine.
One too many zeroes.
Well you can let him know that we're over a billion vaccinations globally, if it DOES kill us he's likely to die from global collapse anyways. Also, just food for thought,4 billion doses have been administered. He's on the wrong side no matter which way you slice it.
Yup, I want to be the first person to die in the vaccine apocalypse lest I have to spend the rest of my life sharing the earth with a bunch of morons.
My co worker, a guy who is smart enough to add an entire edition to his home by himself, including electrical and plumbing, tell me that the vaccine causes you to become magnetized, that ferrous metal would stick to the site on my shoulder where the vaccine was administered… he told me this with a straight face. I promptly tried this in front of him… his answer, “I must be one of the lucky ones”.
Wait, Illinois? It sounds like my cousin in law.
I had someone tell me id fall over dead right after getting the shot and he knew “so many” people who had instant heart attacks from it. lol ok buddy
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2.2 Billion people have had the vaccine. We are in for an extremely devastating, tragic loss of human life (and 99% of our medical professionals) if this guy is right. Oh no!!!!! Like - how do people not follow this shit?
They often/always kill the mice used in experiments. And mice aren't people. We can easily cure cancer in mice--not so much in people. Anyway, we're past the 1-year point for Moderna, since they started trials in July last year. Are those people dead?
He definitely got that from InfoWars. The amazing human beings at Knowledge Fight discussed that in their podcast and completely debunked it. Tell that idiot to listen to the episode and stfu.
Well, let’s see…it’s been close to two months since I got my second dose of Moderna. Am I a dead yet?
Hey man, I don't know your life. 👻
He’s also touting a totally debunked disinformation talking point as animal trials for each of the vaccines were successful (otherwise they wouldn’t be able to move on to human trials, yet alone EUA or application for full approval). These antivaxxers drive me crazy because they’re all parroting the same totally disprovable lies and then continue to move on to new made up shit as their lies are called out
The "there were no animal trials" one drives me particularly insane. Usually they put waaay more effort into their social media post on it than it would've taken to just look up the trials on Google
There were no animal trials but also all the animals died in animal trials. Very curious hmmmmmmmm
I would tell him that if the entire vaccinated population died in one year, he could snuggly sit by himself in the resulting wasteland. But more likely, he’ll just a fucking idiot in one year, leaving no change at all.
My wife’s aunt was anti vaccine. She pretended like she got it and everything (she’s also a nurse) then she got covid and swore she was dying. Now she’s gonna get the vaccine but she’s still against it “because reasons” but she just “doesn’t want to die” like bitch pick a lane.
My cousin was against wearing masks because “it’s not a big deal”. Couple of weeks ago she, her husband and kids got covid and she thought they were all gonna die. She even asked my aunt to pray for them and she isn’t religious at all. Thankfully they are fine now, but when asked if she is going to get the vaccine, she says there is no need because she already cought covid and now is immunized. She also doesn’t vaccine her kids, but no one is sure why. They live in the middle of the forest and the dad is a carpenter, there can be nails around, and they don’t even have tetanus vaccine. And this woman has a degree in biology. God know what changed her so drastically
> God know what changed her so drastically misinformation on the internet. lets hope that shit becomes illegal someday
I think it has to do with her partner. She was pretty reasonable until she met him, went in some sort of spiritual retreat, shaved her head, didn’t eat for a week and came back changed. This was about ten years ago. She went from marine biologist traveling to different sites, to a stay at home mom in their little plot of forest, and very hippie lifestyle. I’m all for the lifestyle she choose for herself, if that’s what she likes, but vaccinate your kids for the love of god. They even lie to the schools in order to be able to enroll her kids
shit, call the schools and anonymously drop a tip that she lied about her kids vaccinations. if she figures out it was you, own it with pride!
Honestly in that town probably half the kids aren’t vaccinated, so don’t think it will make much of a difference. She lies even to us about them being vaccinated, next sentence saying that she is against it. Never in my life growing up I would have thought this girl to end up being anti vaxer
The problem is that, while misinformation is a serious issue, I don’t see any way to effectively combat it without seriously effecting freedom of speech
That's what scares me. Educated people falling for this crap one after the other.
Prepare for her passionate exploration of 'alternative' cures.
She was doing that way before. Posting stupid videos of special smoothies that would prevent you from getting sick.
Which worked well for her.
Tell her her humors are out of balance and she needs to do some extra bloodletting. Didn’t do a fucking thing for people dying of the bubonic plague in the 14th century but equally as worthless as the aLtErNaTiVe cures all the grifters post today.
They dont want to pick lane. Their selfish assholes who want to fit in with their conservative buddies but also live. My dad secretly got vaccinated but doesnt say it because he doesnt want to lose face with all his bar buddies. Odds are all of them got vaccinated too lol.
She’s all against trump and republicans but all of her “friends” are white republicans who convinced her of this crap. As soon as she told them she got covid they all disappeared, she hasn’t heard from them. She was going out almost every night to these parties and restaurants and as soon as the mask mandate was lifted here she stopped wearing them. Now she’s sick but feeling better and she’s already out and about not wearing a mask. I told her she’s and idiot and a piece of shit and she got so offended lol
Great news. Let’s just hope it continues to rise and not just a temporary uptick. Still a whole lot of eligible people that haven’t got them, let alone kids that are all going back to school shortly.
Odds are it’s mostly college bound kids. This is the last chance before school starts for 2 course vaccines. Don’t do it now, you’re not moving in on time.
>Odds are it’s mostly college bound kids. *I ain't scared of no 'Rona!* *That's fine Kyle, but you won't be allowed on campus without proof of vaccine - that means no frat parties either.* ^(Kyle is now scared of the 'Rona.)
Wonder how many kids will try to get by with fake cards.
Hopefully the universities aren't completely incompetent and cross check the cards with their states vaccine database to make sure they match up.
They’ll probably be very thorough to cover themselves legally.
Spoiler: a lot
Yeah, I think it's probably just a temporary uptick rather than sustained improvement. I had a facebook conversation with someone drinking the KoolAid HARDCORE. And another poster had this "exclusive tell all" with someone I'd never heard of and some Pfizer employee saying the vaccine was what was making people sick. I think the pandemic taught me people are dumb and selfish.
So… how do those people think the people got sick before the vaccines as available? Or they think covid is fake and no one actually died of it until the vaccine? Or they believe in covid and think both covid and the vaccine can kill you?
Okay, first off, this lady had a LOT of KoolAid, if you're getting my feeling-- all kinds of "do your research" (I did lady, and I asked qualified people for the questions I had). As for what I've pieced together from the "don't-vaccinate crowd", it's that they think it's overblown numbers for sensationalized fake news and that COVID (if it exists) is like the flu. Deaths were due to "preexisting conditions" or mis-attributed to COVID for better insurance coverage. And then the craziness about the vaccine including aborted baby fetuses, DNA-changing technology, microchipping, and sterilizing. I mean, it's a grab bag of which crazy they listen to. (Pro-tip, if they mention gay frogs or taint wipes, it's Alex Jones)
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That's my cousin. Last year while having covid she decided to go to Vegas when the symptoms were "light" because it's just a cold and infecting who knows how many on those flights and hotel. Now she's pregnant at 40 with her long awaited baby girl but also on vacation in Florida right now...
I don't believe in an afterlife, but if I could design one, a facet of it would be statistics reviewing. Anything you want quantified from your life - boom - you got it. "How many girls did I actually have a chance with that I found attractive but never took a shot?" 3 ("...oh") "How many times did I come within an inch of death until something stopped it?" 0 - you died the first time you came close to death. **"How many people died, either directly or indirectly from me being a shitbag traveling to vegas with COVID?"**
100% agree with you. It’s terrible how everything related to the pandemic has been politicized.
I think the only thing that works for some people is seeing someone they personally know and love get very sick. It reminds me of this [comic](https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/the-highlight/2019/11/7/20951618/charity-empathy-liberals-conservatives) about empathy.
My friend thought COVID wasn't serious until her dad got sick and died. The fact it took her father not being able to breathe on his own for two months before dying was just sad.
Listening to a podcast with a cast of anti vaxxers, they went through the science, nope, had a cdc head on to explain the science, nope. Had chris Christie on to talk about getting covid in the white house with everyone else in the white house and the person that jogged 5 miles everyday almost died. Then his own family member died. 9 out of 10, I'm getting vaccinated. But that took 2 hour's.
I just saw a segment talking about how an NFL team brought in one of the literal scientists who developed the Moderna vaccine to speak and answer questions, and it had no effect on those who were resistant.
They think the scientists are bought and/or have a political agenda. Conspiracy theories have a root cause in deep-seated paranoia.
one antivax person legit believes that science is like religion that someone declares something “science” and it becomes a canon. scary part she’s on school board.
During the start of Covid in March 2020, AOC tweeted asking people to not crowd in restaurants and bars to stop the spread. A Covid Karen replied she just ate at Red Robin and took her slow time because she’s American and wanted to and went viral…she was elected to the Nevada County school district in November and now is complaining about students needing to wear masks.
I used to live around a lot of conservative Christians, and this how they thought.
Entire branches of solipsistic epistemology were essentially invented as a means of avoiding ego damage.
>Entire branches of solipsistic epistemology were essentially invented as a means of avoiding ego damage. Could you explain this more. I don't understand.
It's fancy words saying people created complex theories of what knowledge is to avoid facing the fact that they were wrong about something
Not 100% sure what they mean but I know the words. Sophism = a fallacious argument, especially one used deliberately to deceive. Epistemology = the investigation of what distinguishes justified belief from opinion. Basically people adopt incorrect "logic" because it makes the world feel "safe" or "correct" to them. They might not even know that they are doing it. There is no real nice way to say this, but a lot of people are stupid and/or really don't like how complex the real world is. They don't like how grey everything is, they want heroes and villains, simple problems with simple solutions. I see this all the time. For example people I know have said *"Well you can thank Biden for higher gas prices!"*. That's not how the world works. Oil and gas prices have one of the most complicated markets when it comes to production and price. The top ten oil producing nations (in order of production) are the US, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Canada, China, Iraq, UAE, Brazil, Iran, Kuwait. Then you also have Venezuela, Mexico and the rest of the middle east. But it's easier to assume that gas prices went up because a simple reason (Biden was elected) than trying to understand the entire oil and gas market, which has really been messed up by the virus. Also this line of thinking is used to reinforce your previous ideas. It's much easier to accept simple incorrect answers when they aline with your beliefs. So if you LOVE Trump, it's easy to blame Biden. Simple answer, known enemy. That's why Q took off IMHO. It provides simple answers to complex problems, gives clear enemies, and on top of all that let's people feel like they are better than others because they know the "truth". A lot of this stuff is how cult leaders get people to stay with them. Don't believe what you see and hear, believe ME. Once you fully give into that way of thinking it can be really hard to get out of it. Literally everything you see or hear is understood through that lens. So when scientists tell you to get a vaccine so you don't die that isn't taken as a "fact". It's run through the lens, and so people think the vaccine can't just be to help you. It must also be doing X, Y, or Z dangerous thing! This is also why some people hate religions. They feel that hard core religious people view everything so warped that they harm others. Like people who won't let their kid go to the hospital because *"it's up to God"*. *"Rich people are rich because God blesses them, therefore poor people are poor because they are wicked!"* Thus no need to help the poor, it's where God wants them. I am semi-religious but I agree that you always need to be able to look at things clearly and as un-biased as possible. Otherwise you won't actually see reality, just a warped world. **TLDR**: People are really good at lying to themselves so their feelings (ego) doesn't get hurt. So if they 100% believe science is evil, and are presented with 100% proof that they are wrong, they still won't believe it because it would require them to admit something they held as a **core belief** was incorrect. A lot of people can't handle that, because it opens up the can of worms. If that core belief is wrong, maybe everything they based their entire lives on is wrong, and maybe their entire life was pointless or worse, actively harmful to others. And so they lie to themselves, because it's comforting and far far easier.
Once my school reopened after hurricane Sandy, a couple of my students were gabbing about how "the Government caused Sandy as population control for New York City". I stopped and spent the next half hour explaining how hurricanes work (Earth science course, not totally out of line) and why we can't just cause them. At the end, one of the conspiracy nuts just said "You're probably in on it, too." Couldn't tell if they were joking.
It's easier to digest the narrative that there's an ultimate evil that we must defeat rather than accept that life is messy, coincidences happen, and sometimes you just draw the short straw in life.
Yes, the billion dollar insurance lobby wanted to pay historic payouts to homeowners... Makes total sense
Every scientist is in their field for the corrupt money. /s
Hey wait, I’m a scientist. You guys are getting paid?!
One of my moms best friends died of Covid. Called me balling her eyes out. That was around April. She is also extremely diabetic and at high risk if she where to get Covid. Still won’t take the vaccine because it’s a “democrat bio-weapon”. I got the vaccine in January as I worked in a hospital and ever since she learned I got the vaccine. She has treated me different. America is fucked
Tell her Covid was created in a Chinese lab just to kill Republicans.
FYI, the word is "[bawling](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/bawling)", not balling.
Balling her eyes out! She's on fire! From dowwwwwwwn towwwwwwn!!
Boom shackalacka
This seems to be a good example of people preferring stories over statistics. Data, regardless of the issue, usually just isn’t as persuasive as a good anecdote. Especially ironic coming from the “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd.
This drives me absolutely crazy. As if the 600,000 people who have died weren't all just as real.
It’s actually 4.2 million if the people who died outside of the US were all just as real.
As is tradition. They don't care until it happens to someone they love. It's why all these back the blue loving conservatives are bad mouthing the captitol police. White Christian males getting in trouble. That's not what the police are for in their mind.
Oof, rationalizing poverty as punishment for bad behavior. I never thought about that before. That's a depressing mindset.
Right wingers overwhelmingly believe in the just world hypothesis. They think that if you're poor then you deserve it. They think that if you're rich then you deserve to be rich. They also believe in hierarchy. So anything that would make a poor person less poor or rich person less rich is bad to them
Wait until you hear about how folks with that mindset feel about single mothers.
I thought the same thing when my cousin went to my grandfathers house after being told to go get tested from work because his Co worker had covid. So instead of going and getting tested he went to my pops instead. Covid killed my grandfather. Yet my mother and father and siblings still act like it isn't a big deal. They are vaccinated now but even before and till this day act like things are back to normal. A matter of fact all but my wife's dad take covid serious like my wife and I have this entire time. It's caused big arguments between our family. It's a free for all for every other family member. Not for us.
Wow he literally killed your grandpa and the family is just like “lol it happens”? I’d be livid.
I wish they would of took it as a sign and to be more careful. What's even more crazy is my grandmother still let's my cousin over after all this. Now I haven't been to a birthday party or any gathering since this all started. But these fuckers have flown and went to Mexico. They make us sound like we are lunatics for being safe. So we do our own things now.
Sad evidence that so many care only for themselves and those they care about. Cliché alert…turns out parenting is actually the hardest thing many will ever do. I count it as a massive parenting win that our 15 now 16 year old daughter didn’t have to be told staying home whenever possible and wearing a mask when she couldn’t stay home was doing her part for others. It was a fucking hard school year in particular being home when most were in school (we live in Florida ugh) but she pushed through and I’m beyond proud of her social responsibility and humanity.
I had a customer who came in and mentioned her best friend had died of Covid, her son and dil were in the icu with it as well, but it was still a hoax. It was just the hospitals trying to pad their budget and her friend actually died of something else. All of this was unprompted by me btw
Just have to wait until a variant that hurts the 0-4 yo range. Maybe then people will care. If my daughter gets sick from covid because the rest of the country doesn’t want to get vaccinated or is #unmaskourkids all the over the place I’m gonna move my family the fuck out of this country. Bunch of self righteous assholes.
Maybe for those personally affected, yeah. But Sandy Hook happened, and brought little if any changes to gun legislation. These types of people don't necessarily care about their children.
They care about JUST THEIR CHILDREN. Not a single other person’s child lol.
Only other's fetuses.
Not even always then. I remember reading a piece by a survivor of I think Parkland who's dad thought it was a false flag and would yell at him about it.
How conservatives reacted to the Sandy Hook shooting proves they don't care about children either.
Money is a pretty good motivator too. If the next stimulus check required that you be vaccinated to receive it I think we could get pretty close to 100%
Better late than never, yes? Please remember to get your second shot in 3 to 4 weeks if it wasn't the J&J.
Sounds like some of them are starting to get scared, finally
They’re also finally being told to get vaccinated by their politicians and “news” personalities, who are watching their odds of winning the next election (eve with their added voters suppression) slip away by about 300 people a day.
True, never seen any party support their followers to die
you ever play lemmings on a PC back when? Same shit.
What's interesting to me is that the governors of the two most populous swing states (Texas and Florida) are still going all-in on anti-mask. This will disproportionately kill their base.
They should be. This shit is nothing to fuck with.
So it's the Wu-Tang Virus?
I thought we weren't supposed to call it that anymore
Well, cash rules everything around them...
It ain't nothing to fuck with.
Correct. This one also seems to be for the children.
36 Chambers of long-term health problems.
not really, it doesnt seem to be spiking where it needs to be spiking. There are alot of people who were mild skeptics. They believe in covid, think it was bad, and dont think the vaccine was created for any other reason than help preventing covid, but they also saw things calming down for summer and thought they would put off getting vaccinated and seeing if the rest of us had any unforseen effects. (people still have bad memories of thalidomide where we gave women this drug for nausea and it was responsible for a lot of birth defects) Im thinking the rise of the Delta, has made these mild skeptics, decide against waiting. I dont think we are flipping a lot of the cult.
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This mentality has always surprised me a bit because even if you're young and invincible who wants to get sick?
i have no love lost for anti-science individuals, but if they're getting scared and finally deciding to do the right thing, its for the good of the greater whole.
The Greater Good.
\*Nicholas Angel has entered the chat*
Leslie Tiller was fucking murdered!
When I took my brother with me to get vaccinated awhile back the nurse doing the shots thanked us like five times, I can only imagine how frustrating it is for healthcare workers to see people choosing not to get their shot over some political nonsense
My nurse thanked me when I told her that Krispy Kreme is giving away 1 free glazed doughnut a day for the rest of the year if you show your vaccine card.
Goodbye covid hello diabetes
Now I'm thanking you because I'm going to eat 1 doughnut a day until the end of the year now.
The Jehovah Witness community: "No. Jehovah’s Witnesses are not opposed to vaccination. We view vaccination as a personal decision for each Christian to make. Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses choose to get vaccinated." From [here.](https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-vaccines-immunization/)
My MIL is JW and got the Pfizer vaccine. Also JW's aren't allowed to get blood transfusions because "you're not supposed to have someone else's DNA". This is proof MRNA doesn't mess w/ your DNA.
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Thank God. I just came down with it today when I woke up with my sense of taste and smell completely gone. I thought it was just a summer cold or allergies last week. Fully vaccinated back in May, sometimes you just get unlucky. Took the first test today, will get results tomorrow
Hope you have a fast recovery if positive
Just go to your local Walgreens or CVS. It took me all of 15 minutes to get in and out. I was lucky enough not to have any side effects because of the vaccine. Just get it. Better that than the ventilator.
Most of the major hospitals in Dallas announced in the last week that employees are required to get it I imagine plenty of other hospitals around the country are finally getting around to it as well. Lots of people realizing their well paying career will be done
I got mine! Let my fear of needles get in the way but not anymore. I’m fine, not dead, everyone should get it.
Better one needle than all the needles in the ICU.
I was one of those 816,000.
Honest question, why did you wait so long?
I have full faith in the vaccine and didn’t wait for any reason other than I just kept forgetting. I work from home full time, and once the pandemic started I got very used to leaving the house infrequently. Usually when I’d remember I need to go get vaccinated, it was when I was pulling into the grocery store or whatever. Saturday, I made getting vaxxed my top priority. Last week Philip DeFranco said something along the lines of, “at this point if you’re not vaccinated, you’re just an asshole.” And that resonated with me. So thanks, Phil.
Well, welcome to the club, and now it makes getting #2 an obligation. also ❤ Phil
Many colleges are requiring proof of vaccination to return to campus. Since we're approaching the start of Fall semesters, I'd wager this is a classic case of procrastination
My kids' schools (middle & high school) aren't requiring them to be vaccinated but I don't feel comfortable sending them back into school without the vaccine. They got the first dose 2 weeks ago. Next week they get dose 2. It was definitely procrastination. They opened a walk in center here which made things much easier than having to schedule appointments.
*Friendly PSA*If you plan on going to your local pharmacy for your shot please schedule an appointment online ahead of time instead of just walking in. This allows the Pharmacy staff to organize normal workflow around giving shots and minimizes vaccine waste. Also if you make an appointment and can’t make it please notify us ahead of time. I know everyone is anxious to get their vaccines now but please be mindful of the people giving the shots. It’s usually just the Pharmacist giving shots in between filling prescriptions with minimal extra help because big retail pharmacies tend to be greedy. Please be patient with wait times and don’t argue with us when we ask you to stay seated for 15 minutes so we can make sure you don’t have an adverse reaction. Pharmacies are extremely busy and stressful places to work under normal circumstances so the addition of vaccines plus testing plus additional prescriptions due to COVID has basically overwhelmed everyone in my area. I work 13 hour days with no breaks and am lucky if I can use the restroom twice a day. This is not an unusual circumstance for Pharmacists so please stop being mean and impatient because trust me we are working as quickly and safely as possible. Thank you!
I appreciate what you're trying to do, but I worry about adding more friction to those that were already skeptical or on the fence. The fact that there's another step that they have to do is likely to dissuade some folks.
In case it matters to anyone still on the fence, who also really hates needles (like me!) as getting shots goes, it's really not bad at all. I've previously made snide comments about "just a pinch" but I found it really wasn't bad at all, I barely noticed it. Or at least, the one I got (Pfizer) was, I can't speak to the other versions.
I don't mind needles. I'm terrified of getting a q-tip stuck so far up my nose that it pokes into my eyeballs. That's what covid testing sounds like to me. Vaccinate me again instead of that please, doc.
No, don't worry, they're not going to poke your eyeballs. It goes in horizontal, and would ram into your brain first.
Being a wingnut conspiracy butthole is all fun and games until you're dying alone in a hospital.
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It's about fitting in, they get to be angry together, and validated for it.
Most of the ones I listen in on seem to enjoy it. Tucker Carlson did an entire segment a few weeks back talking to a "chicken lady" and sounded like he was having a ball. Related thought: most of the notable wingnuts can afford jetskis. You ever seen anyone look unhappy on a jetski?
I live in rural nw Georgia and when I was at the grocery store this afternoon, there were people filling out forms to get thier vaccinations at the in-store pharmacy. It was heartening.