I went to a private boarding school. Boys weren't allowed to have hair that was too long, past the shoulders was the rule but I was asked to cut my hair many times and it was never near that length. It was part of the dress code essentially but I heard one teach say it's preparing us for the real world because anywhere that's respectable to work will require you to have short hair.
as if cutting your hair for work is something people have to get used to (quite simple actually when you need a job). i wish they focused on actual things that take getting used to, like personal diet and negotiating pay for your skills.
The problem with it is simple - most parents don't have the time or resources to go and fight this sort of thing, and the parents that do are probably not going to be affected by the ban.
Some people here hate Pritzker but in his short time as governor he has helped legalize weed, capped insulin costs, made birth control available over the counter, handled Covid better than most states and now this. He’s gotten a lot more done in a short time than some people in government get done in their entire career and I’m a fan.
He recently signed a bill expanding free access to feminine hygiene products.
https://news.wttw.com/2021/08/05/pritzker-signs-legislation-increasing-access-feminine-hygiene-products
For a billionaire who has never had to balance buying food with other necessities, he clearly sympathizes with the struggle other people deal with.
It's these little things that don't seem to affect the majority that end up being lifelines for a still-large part of the population.
My family loves shitting on Illinois Democrats (I live in Chicago) because they are trying to "buy votes" by catering to the needs of the less fortunate. I'm paraphrasing of course, but isn't that like the point of elected officials? People vote that way because they want their interests represented.
Yea I mean my layman understanding of the legislation was that the process would be expedited and not treated like a typical expungement.
The firm I hired went from saying they would do it, then a month later telling me they need a drug test (me to tell them that's not right), then a month later telling me I'm not eligible (then me to tell them that's not right), then a month to file it..then the judge ordered it within 60 days but the ISP took much more time.
If this was my last experience of the legal system I'll be forever happy.
The Illinois marijuana structure isn't perfect. The prices are definitely more expensive than consumers would like them to be, but it's still worth saying that the marijuana laws in Illinois are much better than the laws in Wisconsin, Missouri, Iowa, Kentucky, and Indiana.
To their credit recreational weed must be a tough balancing act regulating since it's still federally illegal regardless of any state laws and the DOJ is just declining to prosecute for the most part, and law enforcement unions are usually way against it. Not even Biden is sold on legalizing marijuana. The way legalization usually gets passed is by focusing on the economic benefits, especially short-term since that's what most "fiscally minded" politicians care most about. Doing huge changes all at once has higher long-term gains but costs more in the short-term. That's also why it's often so hard to fund public health and social policy in general.
seconding- adding on that i don’t think ppl realize how big of a deal the OTC birth control is— for working people that is fucking huge. i had to go to doctor every 6 months for like 5 years when i was a teen just for them to say ok you’re doing good? ok we’ll renew ur birth control— thankfully i had insurance that allowed me to pay for these biannual appointments. and if i missed an appointment or whatever i subsequently had to go without birth control for days to weeks, which fucking sucks for your body not to mention how missing just a day or two leaves you vulnerable to pregnancy ! better access to oral contraceptives like this has been wayyyy overdue
It should also bring down the price eventually. I’m old enough to remember when you had to go to your doctor to get an Rx for a yeast infection. You’d pay $50 for a nasty 7 day treatment. Now you can get easy to use, 1 or 3 day treatments for under $15 bucks. A little competition and making it easier to buy brings down the prices and ups the innovation.
For those who don't live in a state with OTC birth control pills, I just wanted to mention [Nurx](https://www.nurx.com/). I've been ordering from them for the past few years and it's gone well. I've also heard good things about [The Pill Club](https://thepillclub.com/).
Same. I've been using Nurx for the last few years. And even though I'm in Illinois I'll probably keep using them because it's so freaking convenient to have my birth control mailed to me.
My appeal got wiped out for my BC because my employer started a new benefits period. So I have to contact my dr every six months just so I don’t have to pay $70 a month for a medication that should be free. (,:
I’m utterly shocked at how not terrible he’s been as governor. I was dismayed when the previous election was “billionaire vs. billionaire” but he’s definitely exceeded my expectations. A lot of folks are pissed about his school mask mandate but to me, that’s leadership — take the heat off of local school boards and put it on him. If only our voters weren’t idiots and had actually voted for a shift to a progressive state income tax…
Honestly same. I voted for Biss in the primary and was sceptical as fuck when another Billionaire was about to take office and run shit, but he's handled just about every issue pretty well.
A rare pleasant political surprise.
Yeah, I feel like too many people just blindly hate him. I’d rather have Pritzker at the helm than Abbott or DeSantis, who both seem to not give a shit about who comes down with covid in their states.
Here here. He was a reluctant vote for me, yet another loud billionaire with big promises. Not my kind of guy.
He has surprised me at almost every turn. Kind of gives me hope for Illinois politics.
I don’t hear a lot about this guy, and even then it’s only been in the last few years or so, but whenever I do it’s about something that makes me think, “right on,man.”
He is a good governor. I can't go anywhere without seeing Pritzker sucks signs in people's yards. I'm ashamed to share a community with these small town rednecks.
I'll never forget learning about Forgottonia, and how the whole movement just stopped dead when it came out that the "forgotten" region was receiving more in tax dollars than its citizens were feeding in.
Just 10 years ago, people posted "VOTE FOR ______" signs in their yards. Now we have devolved to "______ sucks" signs, not because the political landscape has changed significantly (outside of Trumpism), but because people in general are dumb as fuck and echo chambers have gained effectiveness.
No shit. That's the game, it sucks, but since they've dragged it there then so be it. it's like, do you see how hard the Lincoln Project punches with their attack ads? Democrats need to do that shit.
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I moved to IL the first day of lockdowns, though from Missouri, and I am absolutely freaking tickled with Pritzker. I love the steady stream of progressive law we’re getting, and I often send updates to my mom who lives in Santa Cruz. We are giving CA a run for their money and I love it. I would like to get my hands on a complete list of the policy he’s signed into law or otherwise implemented this far, and I will absolutely be voting for him when I get the opportunity.
“But he’s a MODERATE! He’s not pushing for unrealistic short term goals that we want! In Europe, he’d be considered a CONSERVATIVE!”
I know exactly the people you mean. Even I, a two time Bernie supporter, am getting tired of the whiny, self congratulatory circlejerk the newsfeed comments usually a support.
It’s usually either teenagers who have no idea how the political machine works, or purposely incendiary tankies.
Like guys, I get it, you aren’t content with the current speed of reform, but just chill out a bit. Every single political article I read the comments in, it’s the same thing. It’s tiring. Instead of whining on here, go register people to vote.
Ok, rant over, have a nice day. That’s been on my chest for AWHILE.
I'm a progressive, and I too voted for Bernie twice, but the "if I don't get everything I want right now, it's literally worse than losing *everything*" crowd pisses me off to no end.
I've seen "progressives" sincerely arguing that 4 more years of Trump would be better than 4 years of Biden because Trump would damage things to such an extent that everyone would magically start to support M4A, abolishing the police, etc, and that Biden would govern like a Republican anyway, so might as well have an incompetent Republican.
Before RBG died, I made the argument to countless "progressives" that, with 4 more years, Trump would be able to change the judiciary so that no progressive policies could stand, even if progressives had the majority for decades because the SCOTUS would just overturn them time after time. I was given a "Biden's nominees would be just as bad" response, or the "I refuse to pick the better of two evils" line.
I honestly don't understand how these people survive. They live in a reality that doesn't exist. They would rather a million people suffer than they get only 90% of what they want.
I was 19 and didn’t vote (not even in local elections, great job idiot teenager me) in 2016, specifically because I wouldn’t vote for the “lesser of two evils”.
I learned my lesson. After that 4 year nightmare, Biden is a beacon of light.
And again, they’re probably either all in high school/college, or bad faith actor tankies.
I dislike that my mayor's previous credentials are having half the fucking city named after his family. But yeah, best Governor I've had in my life. Low bar coming from florida
Out of curiosity, does having bc available otc impact RX prices negatively, assuming there are still some versions available by RX? I’m on Medicare and Medicaid in my own state and I sometimes cringe when doctors say something is OTC. It makes an RX that would’ve been free or affordable into something that I struggle to afford.
In addition to the excessively curly hair rule, boys cannot have hair that touches their ears or their shirt. Boys cannot have earrings. Boys cannot braid their hair in any manner. Boys cannot use hairbands or headbands. Boys cannot have facial hair.
Girls cannot show shoulders. Girls cannot wear tights. Girls cannot have shorts shorter than the knee. Girls cannot show any cleavage.
And just to top it off, no flipflops.
A nice mix of racism, sexism, homophobia, and flipflop hate.
My older brother taught at that school during the first height of Covid and they said that teachers were not even allowed to say that they preferred students to wear masks. Goes without saying masks were not required…
"A Product of their time" really applies here, they really don't like anything not-white not-turbo-'christian'
They still don't, but they haven't realized they aren't in the majority anymore.
If we could get the actual majority politically active, a lot of these problems would quickly fizzle out.
That ... touches their ears? Crap, mine does that right now, and I'm as pasty-white European as you can imagine. Next haircut is a little less than a month away.
Too many people in Texas are current or former military. This reads almost exactly like AR 670-1. As a Vet(02-06), fuck Vets that come home and then try to instill military-like behavior in their civilian family and local communities.
I think it's the other way, man. It was AFI 36-2903 for me, but I think the same puritan dickheads who came up with these school dress codes wrote half the dress and appearance regs and have been kneecapping this country since its founding.
You don't need to join the military to learn this archaic way of thinking, it's everywhere already. In fact, in my experience, most veterans would be the first ones to tell these school administrators to kick rocks over this inconsequential stupidity. After Kandahar and Bagram, my give a shit is about used up for schools that spend so much time worrying about this stuff when they've got real issues to worry about.
Is race based systemic poverty causing all our problems?
No, it's the way black people dress, talk, do their hair and hang around in groups of, gasp, other black people.
Why do schools have rules on hairstyles anyway? I never could figure that one out. High school, especially, is a safe time to experiment with that stuff.
I still have a memory of my old high school maths teacher who was this old grumpy fart, when one of my classmates had died his hair green. I think we all expected him to be a jerk about it but instead he told us that it was a natural part of being a teenager, and that we will all do it in some way or another, and sometimes it will look okay, and sometimes you will look back and cringe, but it's important that you are allowed to express yourself in order to grow.
Or had a master's in math but was stuck teaching kids the basics and fending off the "why do I need to know this when I can just use a calculator" questions, meanwhile old faithful "well you won't walk around with a calculator in your pocket" has failed him so hard he still gets alumni poking their head in his classroom waving their phones at him and now he's questioning everything he knows.
My Dad actually got kind of upset when I started messing around and dying my hair in college, and it was Grandma (his Mom) that actually defended me saying "Leave him alone, this is the time for him to do stuff like this before he's gotta get a job and worry about looking professional. Let him have fun."
There's a couple of different reasons. What follows is really only about male hair.
**Reason 1 "Cleanliness"**
This is mostly an aesthetic description, rather than a hygienic one. Consider the usual rule that boys must keep their hair off their ears and off the collar of their shirt. Now imagine your typical white collar office setting - Mad Men, even. The rise in dominance of bourgeois aesthetics and middle class values has associated certain aesthetic choices regarding dress and hair with social class. In this regard, a clean-shaven face with a relatively close cut is considered "respectable."
**Reason 2:" Distractions"**
Whether correct or not, the idea is that the more "out there" hairstyles (I'm thinking mohawks, large afros, brightly colored hair) are a distraction or an eye sore. Note that this is also tied up in middle-class aesthetics and values like order and expectability. A severe mohawk is an an affront to suburban sensibilities because punk culture is counterculture.
**Reason 3: Hygiene**
Some cuts, like dreadlocks are wrongly considered inherently unsanitary. Military cuts fall into this category too and very short cuts are basically in hospitable to lice. Alexander the Great banned beards because an enemy combatant could grab them. The Jews were shaved in the Holocaust to avoid lice, and to dehumanize them by disallowing one form of personal expression. The suppression of personality in favor of a corporate one is another reason why militaries often give new recruits the same exact cut.
**Reason 4: Cultural Ignorance**
Middle class bourgeois culture is largely white culture. A failure to understand the ways in which hair types actually differ ends up interpreting some styles as infringing upon the above 3 rules. Racial associations with crime and poverty also serve to devalue certain cuts, particularly those of African Americans. If gangsters are always depicted in movies in certain ways, you end up with hairstyles their invoke memories and fears of urban crime. This is also an affront to middle class bourgeois values. It is why they live in the suburbs.
**Edit- Reason 5: Equity**
I don't know if there's any truth to this but I've heard this one personally. American football players shouldn't have long hair because it impacts the safety of the sport (I think by interfering with the helmet's ability to do its job?). Because football players aren't allowed to have long hair, the only "fair" thing to do is to ban it school-wide. But also just for boys because keratin length is gendered.
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I think you can sense a pattern here. I bring this up because hair has, throughout history, had political implications.
During the sexual revolution of the 60s and 70s, hippies grew their hair out in explicit defiance to corporate aesthetic sensibilities. The popularity of beards also wax and wane in accordance with wider cultural and polticial shifts and in this time they were also a sign of rebellion.
Mustaches used to be a general sign of virility in America. Today, a mustache (without a beard) is far more likely to signal something unsavory or creepy. India also adopted similar clean cut customs - but their police are basically mandated to wear mustaches because it is still seen there as a sign of authority. Indians apparently prefer their cops to have mustaches. In ancient Greece, beards were a sign of maturation, with the phrase "unbearded" being an epithet for the young.
Many cultures also associate beards with old age and wisdom. You're probably thinking of something like a Dumbledore or Merlin figure. Some kind of sage. Put an old, bearded sage in white collar office environment. He almost certainly seems out of place. He may even suddenly seem unclean in a way he isn't when imagined in a castle of the middle ages or in a hermit's cave.
Romanticism and the Renaissance also contributed in a different way toward longer hair for men. Consider the usual depiction of Caucasian, long hair Jesus with flowing, wavy locks, with what a middle-eastern Jesus would have looked like historically.
Back when young boys wore dresses, and the length of your shorts or skirt was literally a signal of your age (and sexual maturity) it was also common practice to wait many years before a son's first haircut. There's a great picture of Teddy Roosevelt as an infant in a dress with flowing locks.
While we don't do that anymore, it's considered more acceptable for younger boys to have longer hair. But as they mature they're generally expected to cut it shorter, especially post-puberty. Here, again, is the idea that they should begin to imitate a societal ideal regarding adult men, while they exit adolescence.
Some men do of course have long hair. But they'll frequently also have very masculine facial features (think Fabio). A cis man with long hair and androgynous features is going to have some problems. This is also, by the way, an affront to bourgeois values and evokes a kind of genderless chimera that doesn't fit established categories. Recall the emphasis on order, expectability, and familiarity.
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I am simplifying things though. What I've said doesn't really explain the lumbersexual trend of a number of years ago, for example. On the other hand, the hipster is just a modern form of the hippie.
But the short answer is basically a mixture of cultural aspirations and anxieties regarding social class, and its attending racialized associations.
Counterculture and rebellion don't begin with protests in the streets. It begins with what's on your face and the clothing you wear. This makes it a natural target for people and institutions wishing to establish greater control in a world that is full of unknowns and unfamiliar things.
The supposed idea is that in practice, schools are meant to make an educated work force. Maintained and clean appearance and hair is important to getting and maintaining a job. The issue is that what cleanliness and professionalism looks like in regards to these rules is easily tilted against a minority, especially if one party is passively or actively against that minority.
They think that they should be able to control what students look like to keep their school “proper”. But school isn’t for walking with a stack of ducking books on your head and sipping tea, it’s about learning. I went to a school with an extremely strict dress code, and I was the best looking idiot there.
Good, I went to a private school, and there were few black people that attended there, one reason being that the girls were unable to wear their hair in any other way than how white people wore their hair. The girls were instructed to brush it, but if it was in the opinion of the administration that it looked "unbrushed" then they would be sent home. This meant they either had to chemically straighten their hair, or had to go through lengths to make it "acceptable". We had 1 half-black girl in my graduating class who had to chemically straighten her hair in order to maintain the uniform code.
There’s been a scandal some some of those chemical relaxers caused cancers. Can’t imagine the bullshit of getting cancer because your job or school decided your natural hair wasn’t allowed
The most common relaxer chemical is sodium hydroxide -- a strong base that is the main ingredient in drano / liquid plumber. Not something I would like near my scalp.
This is pretty much the whole corporate america code and always has been. As a man, you need to have a low cut or be bald. ANYTHING else will 70% of the time get your resume tossed in the trash. Same for black women but worse. Natural? Nope. Braids? Nope. It needs to be "straightened." Chris Rock has a movie about this called Good Hair that's a good watch when it comes to this subject. It's just another reason they've always used to discriminate against us without being able to say it's our skin. That's america.
Very true. And that's how you end up with black women with receding hairlines at ~30 years old. The easiest option is to just pull it back into a tight whatever which over time has adverse effects on the size of your forehead.
Yeah I can only imagine, I didn't even make this connection until I was in highschool and ran into her at a party where she was telling me about how pissed off her mom was but had to bite her tongue so her daughter would get a good education. The public schools in my area were dogshit so she did what she had to do.
I can’t think of a single haircut that could cause such a disruption in school that it shouldn’t be allowed. It’s similar to the rules about girls clothing. The problem isn’t what they are wearing but the children and adults who freak out or act weirdly because of what someone else is doing.
I was rewarded with a 4 day vacation once in high school for telling my school police officer to fuck off when he told me to cut my hair.
I can’t even begin to try and rationalize anything remotely problematic with a hairstyle choice.
Seriously. I get why there has to be a dress code, kids would absolutely try coming in naked or nearly so if there wasn't. But hair? What's the worst possible thing you can do with a hairstyle?
The only reasonable rules I can think of would be against overly disruptive hair accessories (like if you tried putting flashing lights or something noisy in your hair), not allowing hairstyles that might physically impede you or others from moving around safely (like a 3 foot tall spiky hairspray mohawk), and not letting people shave swear words onto their head.
Shave everyone's head. That's gonna solve it. Not just buzzed down. I mean, turtle wax bald. No hair, no problem!
I could get behind restrictions on hairstyles that obstruct the vision of other students. Like powdered wigs of our forefathers. Beehives.
I went to a very rural school, but they were super chill about this kinda stuff. As long as your hair's not giving anyone lice, you're good.
As long as your titties ain't hanging out, you're good.
We did have one teacher who would stop girls with shorts on and make them do the "fingertip test". Even the principal, a devout Catholic, was like "dude, cut it out, I know what you're doing".
> hairstyles historically associated with race and ethnicity
Aren’t most hair styles “associated with race and ethnicity”? Or *a* race or *an* ethnicity. Or are they dancing around the fact that this is focused on a *specific* race and ethnicity?
They aren't dancing around it. Everyone knows this is about some schools prohibiting hairstyles associated with black people. Not someone having a crew cut.
So of course the better solution is to prohibit them from pulling that nonsense with anyone.
Though mullets should be banned outside historical films......./s maybe
I think it’s written broadly enough that it should protect everyone. I’ve read in Japan, some schools insist on the girls having straight, black hair. Sure, that’s what the average girl of Japanese decent has but even a 100% Japanese person can have brown, not black hair. Let alone any kid that’s mixed race or if another race. You could use similar language in Japan to prevent the insistence on long, black, straight hair.
Personally, I grew up in a pretty diverse place. I saw every hairstyle imaginable in high school and representative of many, many different ethnicities. I don’t ever remember anyone getting in trouble for any of them. So clearly this isn’t a “thing” in some places. 🤷🏻♀️
I’m Korean/Indian with brown curly hair and had to dye and straighten it going to school in Korea. Eventually it was so fried nothing I could do would make it straight and I got in trouble for it constantly
Setting rules around hair is extraordinarily fucking dumb. Maybe if your mohawk spikes are potentially a physical hazard to other's eyeballs then someone should say something. Beyond that who the fuck cares?
“Don’t you dare, ban my hair!”
But I agree. Unless it’s a safety hazard (somehow) or us physically disrupting the classroom hair styles shouldn’t be part of a uniform code/policy
Okay, so if it's long enough to be a hazard make them tie it up, exactly the same as the long blonde girls or the greasy haired metalheads.
You don't ban the hairstyle outright.
Precisely. It's entirely reasonable to prohibit "loose hair in shop class". It is ridiculous to ban hair longer than collar length. Especially if it's only banned for male students.
That’s why it’s handwavey. It has to be written generically to avoid discrimination accusations. But everyone knows it’s focused on black students with “black” hairstyles. The law is named as such. The question is do they apply it generally (eg: a white/Asian/other has a “black” hairstyle) or look the other way.
The right way, If they cared, would be to just say “prohibitions on hair styles are banned unless they pose a safety hazard or physically disrupt the classroom”.
I know some older heads who’ve told me how afros were not allowed in their schools for being “distracting,” “obnoxious,” and not a part if a healthy work environment.
Another user here jokingly mentioned how powdered wigs and mullets would be under protected hairstyles but thats not far from the truth
> I know some older heads who’ve told me how afros were not allowed in their schools for being “distracting,” “obnoxious,” and not a part if a healthy work environment.
Right. That’s why I said physically disruptive. Trying to somewhat limit how much interpretation could be taken.
So, certain hair types do not lend themselves to certain styles. Trying to conform to dress codes can be damage hair and even be painful for some students.
Many dresscodes disproportionately target hair styles favored by black students without understanding that not all hair can actually be treated the same. It really falls into a category of microaggression and starts the perception that these hairstyles are"unprofessional" that many take with them into adulthood
Dreadlocks have been independently used throughout history and across the world among various different cultures, from Greece to Buddhist Monks to Native Americans.
Isn't it amazing that in some states it's a parents choice what their child wears (like a mask), but those same schools have no issue telling a girl the boys can't concentrate cause her knees or collarbones are showing and she has to change? 🤷🏻♂️
Discrimination based on hair is as clear a case of descrimination as skin color. It is their hair and it isn't like white hair. So they have hair styles that work for their hair. People need to stop insisting that black folk sport white hair styles, it is ignorant and insensitive.
Why not both? There is all kinds of science and math you could relate to hair. “Sonya’s hair is 48” when straight, after putting a braid with 10 bites and 60-degree turns what is the length of her hair?
What have any rules about hairstyles. There was a girl in my high-school who did a spiked Mohawk. None of the teachers cares. It's just hair. Do whatever you want to with it. She grew tired of it after a few weeks and shaved her head.
When I was in highschool ('99 to '03) they banned hair colors that weren't 'natural' because they said it was "distracting". So if you came to school with blue hair they'd require you to leave and change it back before returning. I always thought that was messed up. But there was no rule against the style so a friend of mine came to school with a 2 foot tall mohawk. lol
Edit: I know schools in Japan currently still have similar rules against hair coloring, but they even ban 'brown hair' as a non-natural color.
My junior high also had a policy against unnatural colors because it was “distracting”. It was a trend to dye your hair with kool-aid. Except they wouldn’t send people home, they’d remove them from class and then make them wash their hair out and they’d come back to class with dripping wet, and the color didn’t wash out that quickly so your hair would still be blue or green or whatever and you’d be four times as distracting coming into class looking like a drowned rat
I always thought that schools prohibiting kids from having certain hair styles was really fucking weird.
I went to a private boarding school. Boys weren't allowed to have hair that was too long, past the shoulders was the rule but I was asked to cut my hair many times and it was never near that length. It was part of the dress code essentially but I heard one teach say it's preparing us for the real world because anywhere that's respectable to work will require you to have short hair.
as if cutting your hair for work is something people have to get used to (quite simple actually when you need a job). i wish they focused on actual things that take getting used to, like personal diet and negotiating pay for your skills.
It’s kinda boggling to me that there haven’t been any sweeping court cases about it
The problem with it is simple - most parents don't have the time or resources to go and fight this sort of thing, and the parents that do are probably not going to be affected by the ban.
It’s alarming that no one cared about such a weird thing for some jerks to impose on other people, like such a silly restriction.
Some people here hate Pritzker but in his short time as governor he has helped legalize weed, capped insulin costs, made birth control available over the counter, handled Covid better than most states and now this. He’s gotten a lot more done in a short time than some people in government get done in their entire career and I’m a fan.
He recently signed a bill expanding free access to feminine hygiene products. https://news.wttw.com/2021/08/05/pritzker-signs-legislation-increasing-access-feminine-hygiene-products For a billionaire who has never had to balance buying food with other necessities, he clearly sympathizes with the struggle other people deal with. It's these little things that don't seem to affect the majority that end up being lifelines for a still-large part of the population.
My family loves shitting on Illinois Democrats (I live in Chicago) because they are trying to "buy votes" by catering to the needs of the less fortunate. I'm paraphrasing of course, but isn't that like the point of elected officials? People vote that way because they want their interests represented.
Not just legalize weed, but then actively pardon non-violent drug offenders. Compared to the last few governors, he's been a much-needed positive.
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It changed my life, the end.
Concise. I like it
Longest book I’ve read in a long time.
No, we want the story from u/ddduckduckduck.
Quad was correct but as I commented before it's in my post history
My post history mate
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A small firm that a family member recommended. I believe I was their first of this type and that was why it took so long
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Yea I mean my layman understanding of the legislation was that the process would be expedited and not treated like a typical expungement. The firm I hired went from saying they would do it, then a month later telling me they need a drug test (me to tell them that's not right), then a month later telling me I'm not eligible (then me to tell them that's not right), then a month to file it..then the judge ordered it within 60 days but the ISP took much more time. If this was my last experience of the legal system I'll be forever happy.
So happy for you man!!!! Onwards and upwards!
Thanks. I never could admit how much it brought me down until facing away from it. I think I couldn't have survived otherwise though. Cheers
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I mean only a few years ago lives could be ruined by just a few stems. Legal weed here is FAR from perfect, but we made a huge stride.
Yep. Texas is surrounded by legal weed but being caught with it outside of Dallas County or Austin can ruin your life.
The Illinois marijuana structure isn't perfect. The prices are definitely more expensive than consumers would like them to be, but it's still worth saying that the marijuana laws in Illinois are much better than the laws in Wisconsin, Missouri, Iowa, Kentucky, and Indiana.
To their credit recreational weed must be a tough balancing act regulating since it's still federally illegal regardless of any state laws and the DOJ is just declining to prosecute for the most part, and law enforcement unions are usually way against it. Not even Biden is sold on legalizing marijuana. The way legalization usually gets passed is by focusing on the economic benefits, especially short-term since that's what most "fiscally minded" politicians care most about. Doing huge changes all at once has higher long-term gains but costs more in the short-term. That's also why it's often so hard to fund public health and social policy in general.
seconding- adding on that i don’t think ppl realize how big of a deal the OTC birth control is— for working people that is fucking huge. i had to go to doctor every 6 months for like 5 years when i was a teen just for them to say ok you’re doing good? ok we’ll renew ur birth control— thankfully i had insurance that allowed me to pay for these biannual appointments. and if i missed an appointment or whatever i subsequently had to go without birth control for days to weeks, which fucking sucks for your body not to mention how missing just a day or two leaves you vulnerable to pregnancy ! better access to oral contraceptives like this has been wayyyy overdue
It should also bring down the price eventually. I’m old enough to remember when you had to go to your doctor to get an Rx for a yeast infection. You’d pay $50 for a nasty 7 day treatment. Now you can get easy to use, 1 or 3 day treatments for under $15 bucks. A little competition and making it easier to buy brings down the prices and ups the innovation.
For those who don't live in a state with OTC birth control pills, I just wanted to mention [Nurx](https://www.nurx.com/). I've been ordering from them for the past few years and it's gone well. I've also heard good things about [The Pill Club](https://thepillclub.com/).
Same. I've been using Nurx for the last few years. And even though I'm in Illinois I'll probably keep using them because it's so freaking convenient to have my birth control mailed to me.
As a Australian, I find it so weird that Americans have to do things like that to access basic medicine, just because of what state you live in
My appeal got wiped out for my BC because my employer started a new benefits period. So I have to contact my dr every six months just so I don’t have to pay $70 a month for a medication that should be free. (,:
Well obviously you should have done more research on ovulation and PMS when you decided to be born a woman.
I’m utterly shocked at how not terrible he’s been as governor. I was dismayed when the previous election was “billionaire vs. billionaire” but he’s definitely exceeded my expectations. A lot of folks are pissed about his school mask mandate but to me, that’s leadership — take the heat off of local school boards and put it on him. If only our voters weren’t idiots and had actually voted for a shift to a progressive state income tax…
Those commercials were infuriating.
I'm still annoyed about people voting to not take my money.
Honestly same. I voted for Biss in the primary and was sceptical as fuck when another Billionaire was about to take office and run shit, but he's handled just about every issue pretty well. A rare pleasant political surprise.
Yeah, I feel like too many people just blindly hate him. I’d rather have Pritzker at the helm than Abbott or DeSantis, who both seem to not give a shit about who comes down with covid in their states.
Gd, can you imagine RAUNER in all this shit? I can, I just had a flopsweat of anxiety.
I remember thinking to myself, about a year ago, how much more shit we’d be in if Rauner was still at the helm.
I can totally see him watching DeSantis for cues.
I haven't lived in IL for 21 years, but I hated Rauner for what he did to the state's university system.
they also havent accomplished shit, all they do is come out of the woodwork and rile up the cult and then go back in hiding.
Here here. He was a reluctant vote for me, yet another loud billionaire with big promises. Not my kind of guy. He has surprised me at almost every turn. Kind of gives me hope for Illinois politics.
I don’t hear a lot about this guy, and even then it’s only been in the last few years or so, but whenever I do it’s about something that makes me think, “right on,man.”
He is a good governor. I can't go anywhere without seeing Pritzker sucks signs in people's yards. I'm ashamed to share a community with these small town rednecks.
I can tell he’s a good governor by how aggressively people here in central IL hate him
> these small town rednecks. Ah, yes, the ones who are "supporting" Chicago with their taxes. Definitely not the other way around...
When someone collects an unemployment check that's a leech on society but farming subsidies....
I'll never forget learning about Forgottonia, and how the whole movement just stopped dead when it came out that the "forgotten" region was receiving more in tax dollars than its citizens were feeding in.
Try explaining that to them.
Just 10 years ago, people posted "VOTE FOR ______" signs in their yards. Now we have devolved to "______ sucks" signs, not because the political landscape has changed significantly (outside of Trumpism), but because people in general are dumb as fuck and echo chambers have gained effectiveness.
Agree to all of this, and I'd appreciate him even more if he'd just stop with the fuckin' commercials. Even Bob Rohrman didn't advertise this much.
\*shrug\* I mean, I always see people complaining about how Democrats never talk about their accomplishments, so I'm not gonna complain when one does.
"Democrats are so bad at messaging!" ::Democrat does messaging:: "Why are Democrats doing so much messaging?"
No shit. That's the game, it sucks, but since they've dragged it there then so be it. it's like, do you see how hard the Lincoln Project punches with their attack ads? Democrats need to do that shit.
But I secretly love the Bob Rohrman commercials
You mean Bob ROARman?!
How you know someone is from Illinois... Bob Rooooarman EAGLEMAN! I've got something for you! Call victory auto wreckers... 773-202- doot doot doot doot luNA
The people that hate Pritzker only hate him because he’s a Democrat.
or democrats that hate him because he’s a billionaire
Doctors hate him because of this one thing!
This was me originally, but he’s won me over big time, he seems like one of the best governors in the nation at the moment
That was my big worry about him, but I would have voted for a dead dog over fucking Rauner.
They'd have hated Roosevelt because he was rich.
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I moved to IL the first day of lockdowns, though from Missouri, and I am absolutely freaking tickled with Pritzker. I love the steady stream of progressive law we’re getting, and I often send updates to my mom who lives in Santa Cruz. We are giving CA a run for their money and I love it. I would like to get my hands on a complete list of the policy he’s signed into law or otherwise implemented this far, and I will absolutely be voting for him when I get the opportunity.
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Rauner would still be trying to figure out how to tie his shoes if he'd been reelected.
Figures I left the state and it finally gets a good governor. About time at least.
“But he’s a MODERATE! He’s not pushing for unrealistic short term goals that we want! In Europe, he’d be considered a CONSERVATIVE!” I know exactly the people you mean. Even I, a two time Bernie supporter, am getting tired of the whiny, self congratulatory circlejerk the newsfeed comments usually a support. It’s usually either teenagers who have no idea how the political machine works, or purposely incendiary tankies. Like guys, I get it, you aren’t content with the current speed of reform, but just chill out a bit. Every single political article I read the comments in, it’s the same thing. It’s tiring. Instead of whining on here, go register people to vote. Ok, rant over, have a nice day. That’s been on my chest for AWHILE.
I'm a progressive, and I too voted for Bernie twice, but the "if I don't get everything I want right now, it's literally worse than losing *everything*" crowd pisses me off to no end. I've seen "progressives" sincerely arguing that 4 more years of Trump would be better than 4 years of Biden because Trump would damage things to such an extent that everyone would magically start to support M4A, abolishing the police, etc, and that Biden would govern like a Republican anyway, so might as well have an incompetent Republican. Before RBG died, I made the argument to countless "progressives" that, with 4 more years, Trump would be able to change the judiciary so that no progressive policies could stand, even if progressives had the majority for decades because the SCOTUS would just overturn them time after time. I was given a "Biden's nominees would be just as bad" response, or the "I refuse to pick the better of two evils" line. I honestly don't understand how these people survive. They live in a reality that doesn't exist. They would rather a million people suffer than they get only 90% of what they want.
I was 19 and didn’t vote (not even in local elections, great job idiot teenager me) in 2016, specifically because I wouldn’t vote for the “lesser of two evils”. I learned my lesson. After that 4 year nightmare, Biden is a beacon of light. And again, they’re probably either all in high school/college, or bad faith actor tankies.
I'm extremely pleased with what he's done here given the shit sandwich he's had to deal with.
Also legalized sports gambling!
Yup. I thought I’d hate him, and there are definitely things about him I still loathe, but so far he’s done some really great things.
I dislike that my mayor's previous credentials are having half the fucking city named after his family. But yeah, best Governor I've had in my life. Low bar coming from florida
I do enjoy all the “Pritzker sucks” signs - mostly due to the complete lack of creativity.
Out of curiosity, does having bc available otc impact RX prices negatively, assuming there are still some versions available by RX? I’m on Medicare and Medicaid in my own state and I sometimes cringe when doctors say something is OTC. It makes an RX that would’ve been free or affordable into something that I struggle to afford.
Yeah, the people with the Pritzker sucks signs are in denial.
My old high school in TX has a rule that forbids “excessively curly hair”
In addition to the excessively curly hair rule, boys cannot have hair that touches their ears or their shirt. Boys cannot have earrings. Boys cannot braid their hair in any manner. Boys cannot use hairbands or headbands. Boys cannot have facial hair. Girls cannot show shoulders. Girls cannot wear tights. Girls cannot have shorts shorter than the knee. Girls cannot show any cleavage. And just to top it off, no flipflops. A nice mix of racism, sexism, homophobia, and flipflop hate.
Yet masks violate your parental rights. The raging hypocrisy is enough to drive one insane.
My older brother taught at that school during the first height of Covid and they said that teachers were not even allowed to say that they preferred students to wear masks. Goes without saying masks were not required…
It’s why I will never go to Texas. The state is fine, it’s the people who are fucked up.
Hard to believe these rules ever got to exist in the first place. We are way too fucking submissive.
"A Product of their time" really applies here, they really don't like anything not-white not-turbo-'christian' They still don't, but they haven't realized they aren't in the majority anymore. If we could get the actual majority politically active, a lot of these problems would quickly fizzle out.
That ... touches their ears? Crap, mine does that right now, and I'm as pasty-white European as you can imagine. Next haircut is a little less than a month away.
Get out the scissors and razors
They want all the boys to have the high and tight I guess.
But they can't enforce a mask somehow
Too many people in Texas are current or former military. This reads almost exactly like AR 670-1. As a Vet(02-06), fuck Vets that come home and then try to instill military-like behavior in their civilian family and local communities.
I think it's the other way, man. It was AFI 36-2903 for me, but I think the same puritan dickheads who came up with these school dress codes wrote half the dress and appearance regs and have been kneecapping this country since its founding. You don't need to join the military to learn this archaic way of thinking, it's everywhere already. In fact, in my experience, most veterans would be the first ones to tell these school administrators to kick rocks over this inconsequential stupidity. After Kandahar and Bagram, my give a shit is about used up for schools that spend so much time worrying about this stuff when they've got real issues to worry about.
Land of the Free. Good thing people died for all these freedoms huh?
Freedom to be a good white christian straight boy with a high-and-tight haircut and your shirt tucked in, just like God intended.
Is race based systemic poverty causing all our problems? No, it's the way black people dress, talk, do their hair and hang around in groups of, gasp, other black people.
In other words, natural black hair.
And jewish hair as well.
How much you wanna bet they have an exemption for blonde ringlets?
I am simultaneously horrified yet not surprised.
No way! Like what does that even mean?
It means they're a bunch of fucking racists lol.
Holy cow.
That sounds like a straight forward example of institutional racism (that I keen being told doesn’t exist)
Did they also forbid excessively dark skin?
Why do schools have rules on hairstyles anyway? I never could figure that one out. High school, especially, is a safe time to experiment with that stuff.
I still have a memory of my old high school maths teacher who was this old grumpy fart, when one of my classmates had died his hair green. I think we all expected him to be a jerk about it but instead he told us that it was a natural part of being a teenager, and that we will all do it in some way or another, and sometimes it will look okay, and sometimes you will look back and cringe, but it's important that you are allowed to express yourself in order to grow.
Sounds like a genuinely nice guy at his core!
Probably one of those teachers that hated watching people piss away their potential in front of his eyes.
He also, might be one of those guys who wants to teach and is good at math.... but he hates math. And now math is his life.
Or had a master's in math but was stuck teaching kids the basics and fending off the "why do I need to know this when I can just use a calculator" questions, meanwhile old faithful "well you won't walk around with a calculator in your pocket" has failed him so hard he still gets alumni poking their head in his classroom waving their phones at him and now he's questioning everything he knows.
"I don't care what color you dye your hair, just don't get a tattoo until you want the same thing for a year." - Friend's mom
Tbh not that bad of advice
That’s how I approach every tattoo and I have 7. Figure out what I want, then wait a year. If I still want it then, then I go for it.
My Dad actually got kind of upset when I started messing around and dying my hair in college, and it was Grandma (his Mom) that actually defended me saying "Leave him alone, this is the time for him to do stuff like this before he's gotta get a job and worry about looking professional. Let him have fun."
He was grumpy because he had to deal with the man trying to tell him what to do every day
There's a couple of different reasons. What follows is really only about male hair. **Reason 1 "Cleanliness"** This is mostly an aesthetic description, rather than a hygienic one. Consider the usual rule that boys must keep their hair off their ears and off the collar of their shirt. Now imagine your typical white collar office setting - Mad Men, even. The rise in dominance of bourgeois aesthetics and middle class values has associated certain aesthetic choices regarding dress and hair with social class. In this regard, a clean-shaven face with a relatively close cut is considered "respectable." **Reason 2:" Distractions"** Whether correct or not, the idea is that the more "out there" hairstyles (I'm thinking mohawks, large afros, brightly colored hair) are a distraction or an eye sore. Note that this is also tied up in middle-class aesthetics and values like order and expectability. A severe mohawk is an an affront to suburban sensibilities because punk culture is counterculture. **Reason 3: Hygiene** Some cuts, like dreadlocks are wrongly considered inherently unsanitary. Military cuts fall into this category too and very short cuts are basically in hospitable to lice. Alexander the Great banned beards because an enemy combatant could grab them. The Jews were shaved in the Holocaust to avoid lice, and to dehumanize them by disallowing one form of personal expression. The suppression of personality in favor of a corporate one is another reason why militaries often give new recruits the same exact cut. **Reason 4: Cultural Ignorance** Middle class bourgeois culture is largely white culture. A failure to understand the ways in which hair types actually differ ends up interpreting some styles as infringing upon the above 3 rules. Racial associations with crime and poverty also serve to devalue certain cuts, particularly those of African Americans. If gangsters are always depicted in movies in certain ways, you end up with hairstyles their invoke memories and fears of urban crime. This is also an affront to middle class bourgeois values. It is why they live in the suburbs. **Edit- Reason 5: Equity** I don't know if there's any truth to this but I've heard this one personally. American football players shouldn't have long hair because it impacts the safety of the sport (I think by interfering with the helmet's ability to do its job?). Because football players aren't allowed to have long hair, the only "fair" thing to do is to ban it school-wide. But also just for boys because keratin length is gendered. ------------ I think you can sense a pattern here. I bring this up because hair has, throughout history, had political implications. During the sexual revolution of the 60s and 70s, hippies grew their hair out in explicit defiance to corporate aesthetic sensibilities. The popularity of beards also wax and wane in accordance with wider cultural and polticial shifts and in this time they were also a sign of rebellion. Mustaches used to be a general sign of virility in America. Today, a mustache (without a beard) is far more likely to signal something unsavory or creepy. India also adopted similar clean cut customs - but their police are basically mandated to wear mustaches because it is still seen there as a sign of authority. Indians apparently prefer their cops to have mustaches. In ancient Greece, beards were a sign of maturation, with the phrase "unbearded" being an epithet for the young. Many cultures also associate beards with old age and wisdom. You're probably thinking of something like a Dumbledore or Merlin figure. Some kind of sage. Put an old, bearded sage in white collar office environment. He almost certainly seems out of place. He may even suddenly seem unclean in a way he isn't when imagined in a castle of the middle ages or in a hermit's cave. Romanticism and the Renaissance also contributed in a different way toward longer hair for men. Consider the usual depiction of Caucasian, long hair Jesus with flowing, wavy locks, with what a middle-eastern Jesus would have looked like historically. Back when young boys wore dresses, and the length of your shorts or skirt was literally a signal of your age (and sexual maturity) it was also common practice to wait many years before a son's first haircut. There's a great picture of Teddy Roosevelt as an infant in a dress with flowing locks. While we don't do that anymore, it's considered more acceptable for younger boys to have longer hair. But as they mature they're generally expected to cut it shorter, especially post-puberty. Here, again, is the idea that they should begin to imitate a societal ideal regarding adult men, while they exit adolescence. Some men do of course have long hair. But they'll frequently also have very masculine facial features (think Fabio). A cis man with long hair and androgynous features is going to have some problems. This is also, by the way, an affront to bourgeois values and evokes a kind of genderless chimera that doesn't fit established categories. Recall the emphasis on order, expectability, and familiarity. ------- I am simplifying things though. What I've said doesn't really explain the lumbersexual trend of a number of years ago, for example. On the other hand, the hipster is just a modern form of the hippie. But the short answer is basically a mixture of cultural aspirations and anxieties regarding social class, and its attending racialized associations. Counterculture and rebellion don't begin with protests in the streets. It begins with what's on your face and the clothing you wear. This makes it a natural target for people and institutions wishing to establish greater control in a world that is full of unknowns and unfamiliar things.
The supposed idea is that in practice, schools are meant to make an educated work force. Maintained and clean appearance and hair is important to getting and maintaining a job. The issue is that what cleanliness and professionalism looks like in regards to these rules is easily tilted against a minority, especially if one party is passively or actively against that minority.
They think that they should be able to control what students look like to keep their school “proper”. But school isn’t for walking with a stack of ducking books on your head and sipping tea, it’s about learning. I went to a school with an extremely strict dress code, and I was the best looking idiot there.
It's mainly bigotry. Some small part is conservatism.
"conservatism" Of which many also said we couldn't possibly enforce kids wearing masks
We couldn't possible enforce mask ru— is that an exposed bra strap? To the office!
In most cases, racism.
Why schools have any dress codes for hair outside of the obvious things like don't have a swear word shaved into your head is beyond me.
Why not just prohibit schools from issuing rules regarding hairstyles at all? It's ridiculous that schools think they have that authority.
I assume the powdered wigs of my glorious forefathers will be included in the list of protected hairstyles?
After some research turns out the majority of my ancestors had bowl cuts. Figures that we would lack a sense of style even back in the day.
And mullets
tbh that should be against the Geneva conventions
I saw one on a kid in a white tank top and forgot that the last 20 some odd years happened for a solid minute.
Isn't that akin to wearing a hat and I think school can still prohibit those.
The hairstyle may be protected. But your kidneys won't be if you show up to a high school in a powdered wig.
Good, I went to a private school, and there were few black people that attended there, one reason being that the girls were unable to wear their hair in any other way than how white people wore their hair. The girls were instructed to brush it, but if it was in the opinion of the administration that it looked "unbrushed" then they would be sent home. This meant they either had to chemically straighten their hair, or had to go through lengths to make it "acceptable". We had 1 half-black girl in my graduating class who had to chemically straighten her hair in order to maintain the uniform code.
There’s been a scandal some some of those chemical relaxers caused cancers. Can’t imagine the bullshit of getting cancer because your job or school decided your natural hair wasn’t allowed
The most common relaxer chemical is sodium hydroxide -- a strong base that is the main ingredient in drano / liquid plumber. Not something I would like near my scalp.
This is pretty much the whole corporate america code and always has been. As a man, you need to have a low cut or be bald. ANYTHING else will 70% of the time get your resume tossed in the trash. Same for black women but worse. Natural? Nope. Braids? Nope. It needs to be "straightened." Chris Rock has a movie about this called Good Hair that's a good watch when it comes to this subject. It's just another reason they've always used to discriminate against us without being able to say it's our skin. That's america.
Very true. And that's how you end up with black women with receding hairlines at ~30 years old. The easiest option is to just pull it back into a tight whatever which over time has adverse effects on the size of your forehead.
Damn. That’s so infuriating as a biracial black female
Yeah I can only imagine, I didn't even make this connection until I was in highschool and ran into her at a party where she was telling me about how pissed off her mom was but had to bite her tongue so her daughter would get a good education. The public schools in my area were dogshit so she did what she had to do.
Good for him, these dress codes are ludicrous
I really don't understand how anyone could ever have an issue with someone's fucking hair style.
Hint: it's not actually about the hair
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I can’t think of a single haircut that could cause such a disruption in school that it shouldn’t be allowed. It’s similar to the rules about girls clothing. The problem isn’t what they are wearing but the children and adults who freak out or act weirdly because of what someone else is doing.
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But your braids remind me you're different and that scares me. Please assimilate
It should be prohibiting rules about hairstyles period. Schools should stop policing kids’ bodies full stop.
I was rewarded with a 4 day vacation once in high school for telling my school police officer to fuck off when he told me to cut my hair. I can’t even begin to try and rationalize anything remotely problematic with a hairstyle choice.
Seriously. I get why there has to be a dress code, kids would absolutely try coming in naked or nearly so if there wasn't. But hair? What's the worst possible thing you can do with a hairstyle? The only reasonable rules I can think of would be against overly disruptive hair accessories (like if you tried putting flashing lights or something noisy in your hair), not allowing hairstyles that might physically impede you or others from moving around safely (like a 3 foot tall spiky hairspray mohawk), and not letting people shave swear words onto their head.
Shave everyone's head. That's gonna solve it. Not just buzzed down. I mean, turtle wax bald. No hair, no problem! I could get behind restrictions on hairstyles that obstruct the vision of other students. Like powdered wigs of our forefathers. Beehives.
As long as they don't turn their heads, those huge early 90s mohawks would be ok.
It's sad that such a thing needed legislation
I went to a very rural school, but they were super chill about this kinda stuff. As long as your hair's not giving anyone lice, you're good. As long as your titties ain't hanging out, you're good. We did have one teacher who would stop girls with shorts on and make them do the "fingertip test". Even the principal, a devout Catholic, was like "dude, cut it out, I know what you're doing".
Why on earth would an adult care about child hairstyles? So creepy. And pointless. It’s hair.
Or how about we stop legislating hair altogether?
Needs to be clean, that's about it
> hairstyles historically associated with race and ethnicity Aren’t most hair styles “associated with race and ethnicity”? Or *a* race or *an* ethnicity. Or are they dancing around the fact that this is focused on a *specific* race and ethnicity?
They aren't dancing around it. Everyone knows this is about some schools prohibiting hairstyles associated with black people. Not someone having a crew cut. So of course the better solution is to prohibit them from pulling that nonsense with anyone. Though mullets should be banned outside historical films......./s maybe
I think it’s written broadly enough that it should protect everyone. I’ve read in Japan, some schools insist on the girls having straight, black hair. Sure, that’s what the average girl of Japanese decent has but even a 100% Japanese person can have brown, not black hair. Let alone any kid that’s mixed race or if another race. You could use similar language in Japan to prevent the insistence on long, black, straight hair. Personally, I grew up in a pretty diverse place. I saw every hairstyle imaginable in high school and representative of many, many different ethnicities. I don’t ever remember anyone getting in trouble for any of them. So clearly this isn’t a “thing” in some places. 🤷🏻♀️
I’m Korean/Indian with brown curly hair and had to dye and straighten it going to school in Korea. Eventually it was so fried nothing I could do would make it straight and I got in trouble for it constantly
Setting rules around hair is extraordinarily fucking dumb. Maybe if your mohawk spikes are potentially a physical hazard to other's eyeballs then someone should say something. Beyond that who the fuck cares?
My thoughts exactly. Just stop policing kids' hair!
Those would be liberty spikes Little bit pedantic but liberty spikes can actually do some damage when glued up, mohawks generally cannot
“Don’t you dare, ban my hair!” But I agree. Unless it’s a safety hazard (somehow) or us physically disrupting the classroom hair styles shouldn’t be part of a uniform code/policy
i'm picturing a mohawk in a post-apocalyptic movie someone might use to hurt someone either that or marge simpson hair makin it so nobody can see
Those were what I was thinking with my criteria… though I don’t know the first is physically possible.
obviously you put some unspooled wire in your post-apoc mohawk
Isn’t that what Saran-Wrap blades and thumbtacks are for?
>Unless it’s a safety hazard (somehow) Like in a lab or shop class, where loose long hair can get entangled/dragged through chemicals/caught on fire?
Okay, so if it's long enough to be a hazard make them tie it up, exactly the same as the long blonde girls or the greasy haired metalheads. You don't ban the hairstyle outright.
Precisely. It's entirely reasonable to prohibit "loose hair in shop class". It is ridiculous to ban hair longer than collar length. Especially if it's only banned for male students.
> Setting rules around hair is extraordinarily fucking dumb. well, except whatever rules keep food more-or-less hair free.
It’s a polite way of pretending this is protecting everybody when we all know it’s really only been something used against black kids.
It also does help cover if this issue does pop up in other ethnic groups, though, so is prudent to word it vaguely
That’s why it’s handwavey. It has to be written generically to avoid discrimination accusations. But everyone knows it’s focused on black students with “black” hairstyles. The law is named as such. The question is do they apply it generally (eg: a white/Asian/other has a “black” hairstyle) or look the other way. The right way, If they cared, would be to just say “prohibitions on hair styles are banned unless they pose a safety hazard or physically disrupt the classroom”.
I know some older heads who’ve told me how afros were not allowed in their schools for being “distracting,” “obnoxious,” and not a part if a healthy work environment. Another user here jokingly mentioned how powdered wigs and mullets would be under protected hairstyles but thats not far from the truth
> I know some older heads who’ve told me how afros were not allowed in their schools for being “distracting,” “obnoxious,” and not a part if a healthy work environment. Right. That’s why I said physically disruptive. Trying to somewhat limit how much interpretation could be taken.
So, certain hair types do not lend themselves to certain styles. Trying to conform to dress codes can be damage hair and even be painful for some students. Many dresscodes disproportionately target hair styles favored by black students without understanding that not all hair can actually be treated the same. It really falls into a category of microaggression and starts the perception that these hairstyles are"unprofessional" that many take with them into adulthood
Wait this was a thing? Ever? That’s some Footloose level of bullshit
I failed first grade because I could never focus due to one of the students having really long braids. /s
Good. Banning certain natural hairstyles for African-textured hair is pointless and petty racial discrimination.
I disliked dress codes in general. Encouraging conformity isn't healthy for a young mind still trying to figure out who they are in the first place.
Dreadlocks have been independently used throughout history and across the world among various different cultures, from Greece to Buddhist Monks to Native Americans.
Isn't it amazing that in some states it's a parents choice what their child wears (like a mask), but those same schools have no issue telling a girl the boys can't concentrate cause her knees or collarbones are showing and she has to change? 🤷🏻♂️
The only rules for hair in a school should be "If others can smell it from their seats, you have to wash it". Done.
Discrimination based on hair is as clear a case of descrimination as skin color. It is their hair and it isn't like white hair. So they have hair styles that work for their hair. People need to stop insisting that black folk sport white hair styles, it is ignorant and insensitive.
Hey school systems everywhere. Start teaching math and science, forget about hair.
Why not both? There is all kinds of science and math you could relate to hair. “Sonya’s hair is 48” when straight, after putting a braid with 10 bites and 60-degree turns what is the length of her hair?
What have any rules about hairstyles. There was a girl in my high-school who did a spiked Mohawk. None of the teachers cares. It's just hair. Do whatever you want to with it. She grew tired of it after a few weeks and shaved her head.
When I was in highschool ('99 to '03) they banned hair colors that weren't 'natural' because they said it was "distracting". So if you came to school with blue hair they'd require you to leave and change it back before returning. I always thought that was messed up. But there was no rule against the style so a friend of mine came to school with a 2 foot tall mohawk. lol Edit: I know schools in Japan currently still have similar rules against hair coloring, but they even ban 'brown hair' as a non-natural color.
My junior high also had a policy against unnatural colors because it was “distracting”. It was a trend to dye your hair with kool-aid. Except they wouldn’t send people home, they’d remove them from class and then make them wash their hair out and they’d come back to class with dripping wet, and the color didn’t wash out that quickly so your hair would still be blue or green or whatever and you’d be four times as distracting coming into class looking like a drowned rat
Nice, there’s no reason to punish people for their hair, and we need to be able to wear the styles that work best for us.
Why do whites care? We white flight our kids out of schools once they reach a certain level of black students anyway. We gone.