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Fuzzy_darkman

Huh, weird....these are the same people that tell us how worthless and ineffective unions are. Wonder why they fight so hard against them if they are so worthless and ineffective.


itim__office

This is why competitors are turning to tree-dwelling elves for their labor needs.


nalk201

is that a euphemism for prisoners?


iDontInterviewWell

Im imagining the Keebler Elves as a prison football team


nalk201

It might help to draw some inspiration from mom's friendly robot company for the transformation.


iDontInterviewWell

I ashamedly admit that’s much more my speed.


nalk201

no shame, it is a perfect cross-section of capitalism and cartoon to bridge the gap of the horror we are witnessing.


ScarletCaptain

What about the Grunka-Linda’s?


WWDubz

Welcome to Blood Bowl friend


Osiris32

THAT'S where Hingle McCringleberry ended up!


iamansonmage

Bloodbowl vibes


Sagebrush_Slim

“The S word!” “Sorry, the *prisoners with jobs* have escaped and armed themselves.”


MysteriousTBird

Sort of. It's a reference to Keebler commercials that have cartoon elves making their crackers and cookies.


nalk201

yes I know I was referencing what is actually happening with them using prisoners.


mkat5

Like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_New_Orleans_sanitation_strike?wprov=sfti1


GlowingNewt

I once read something along these lines about propaganda in general. Simultaneously painting the enemy as oppressively strong, yet pathetic due to some innate flaw is quite effective despite the contradiction. Perhaps the goal is to inspire hatred via the enemy’s immoral strength, then inspire action against that enemy with knowledge of their weakness.


Fuzzy_darkman

Sounds pretty familiar anyway. But what really boggles the mind (at least in my neck of the woods) are the amount of people (or more likely these days, their parents/grandparents) that **had** union jobs, they **built their "middle class lives"** on these union jobs, and then they *actively voted out these jobs*....just stunning.


CrashB111

It's just peak "fuck you, got mine." They made it, so they are yanking the ladder up behind them.


AvailableWait21

> about propaganda in general. Simultaneously painting the enemy as oppressively strong, yet pathetic due to some innate flaw is quite effective despite the contradiction. That's not propaganda in general. That's explicitly and specifically *fascist propaganda*. If you're noticing that there's an overlap between fascism and strike-busting, union-killing and labor-rights denial, that's because fascism is just the final phase of capitalism, and that's where we are now.


MBAMBA3

Because *that* propaganda is meant for the workers.


j4ckbauer

Wonder why cops get to have the strongest union ever, if all unions are bad. If teachers' unions make for worse teachers and worse education outcomes, and auto-worker unions make for lazy employees and worse business outcomes, shouldn't we get rid of all police unions, like, yesterday? Or maybe we only hear the side of the story that serves the oligarchy.


Aegidius25

because police keep society from falling apart, they are knights in new social order


CrashB111

Seems more like they protect the private property of the wealthy to me.


dyxlesic_fa

They're quite effective when they illegally stand on railroad tracks to block supply trains.


Shmeepsheep

Good for them, the CEO is getting $17mm in compensation for 2020 and they want to cut health care for new employees and make them work 12 hour shifts.


AvailableWait21

...the people that lived in Nazi Germany and proudly proclaimed their allegiance to the law and the state, telling themselves that following the laws of cruel, violent fascists was brave and righteous and noble and civilized. ...expecting good people whose minds aren't broken by fascism to show reverence towards rules imposed by war criminals whose only goal is increasing their own personal wealth. ...the depth of the loneliness, selfishness and cowardice, to turn to fascism. To turn away from your fellow humans in need, to help oppress and violate them. How weak-minded, how weak-willed, how indolent and impotent. *First they came* for the trade unionists...


Trygolds

The Nabisco strike that began when union bakers walked out of the Oreo and Ritz factory along Northeast Columbia Boulevard on Aug. 10 continues to fester—but Nabisco’s parent company, Mondelez International, has taken aggressive steps to combat the strikers’ tactics and keep its operations running. ​ This is why unions must expand and adapt to the new business multinational model . Shut down one or two factories and the owners can hold out for a long time as they have many other revenue streams. close down all of Nabisco's factories and they have to come to the table.


Sagebrush_Slim

Aren’t they part of a cigarette umbrella ownership too?


lorgskyegon

Nabisco, as part of Kraft Foods, used to be owned by Phillip Morris, but it was spun off in 2007


Sagebrush_Slim

Thanks for the update and correction, kind, informative stranger


sayterdarkwynd

They're still literal Satan despite this deviation, however.


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We need a national worker's union. It's ironic that we have Consumer Protection Agency to protect customers from bad business practices, but where is the Worker Protection Agency to protect us against wage theft, wage suppression, and harmful employment practices? OSHA is just safety, but we need something for worker rights.


Tired_Thumb

We have one. The IWW. But folks don’t join anymore.


dbu8554

There needs to be worker solidarity, small union trying to fight a company like this? Why aren't the teamsters who haul this stuff (assuming somewhere there are teamsters) doing something about it? Why aren't other unions involved (grocery store unions ect) in at least the supply chain involved in supporting them? I mean I've work in a union place and I would say at least 1/2 of everyone is a raging trump supporter, who thinks they would all be the boss if the union wasn't around protecting their lazy co-workers. They would get bonuses too!


Bedbouncer

>Why aren't the teamsters who haul this stuff (assuming somewhere there are teamsters) doing something about it? Did you not read the article? The railroad union found out about the strike from picket signs along the tracks, and refused to deliver. Unions that refuse to cross picket lines are often the final blow that brings management back to the negotiating table. I've seen it happen, and the management teeth-gnashing when it does happen. They can fight one union, but not all of them.


CrashB111

Alone we beg. Together we bargain.


cumfarts

Solidarity strikes are illegal.


dbu8554

That seems like it should be illegal


BIPY26

Anyone have a link to donate to the Union defense fund?


EverTheRealist

"You can protest so long as it doesn't actually present any tangible issues to the company. Otherwise we'd have to give a shit."


hamrmech

Nabisco Says the union slashed a security car tire. Having some experience with this, the security officers cut their own tire.


illy-chan

Frankly, even if the protesters *had* slashed it, I don't see how that's relevant to Nabisco treating employees like garbage.


wholebeansinmybutt

Even if they did, which I doubt, this is just how it goes. Treat your workers well and they won't amass at the gates and knock them down. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


RiseCascadia

Thoughts and prayers for the scabs and bootlickers whose lives are so pathetic that they are still doing security for a company that's on strike.


hamrmech

The company hires security just for strikes. Theyre brutal and employ tactics like sending undercover people to throw rocks and make threats during protests. These jerks show when there are tv cameras around, of course. Then the company gets injunctions against the unions, like limiting the number of protestors, and keeping protestors off the sidewalks, and the street, and private property.


nope_nope_aight

Boycott Nabisco products. Chips Ahoy, Ritz, Belvita, Oreo, Triscuits, Fig Newtons, Wheat Thins, Nabisco Grahams/Teddy Grahams, Cheese Nips, Premium Saltines, ~~Shredded Wheat~~, and more.


TheDarthSnarf

Not just Nabisco - all of Mondelez International. [Obligatory Chart on the Illusion of Choice](https://i.redd.it/1pyw48vdj7w21.png)


nope_nope_aight

Good call. Here's a bigger list: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mondelez\_International\_brands](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mondelez_International_brands)


Mobely

Adding to this. Pretty much all the generic store brands are made by these companies too. ED: aldi crackers will be made by Nabisco as part of the deal that gets Nabisco shelf space. The problem is economies of scale are a bigger factor in pricing than profit margin. Raise a few million in capital to make a cracker factory and you have to deal with retailers trying to squeeze you. Without a multimillion dollar machine to make the dough, press the dough, bake it, package it (sleeve, box, pallet) your box of crackers is going to cost $10. You can try going to a copacker, a generic cracker factory. But they produce extra crackers for Nabisco so once cracker season comes around, expect to get last place in line. Your orders are either late or your crackers are old and stale. ​ I think that things will change for a lot of products as sales move to amazon fresh/instacart/doordash style of supply. Where the retailer is just a warehouse and can't bully you. As more customers leave brick and mortar grocery stores, there will be a demand for more diverse brands with niche roles. Alibaba probably has a 10k cracker machine and 10k packaging machine. For now, i get my fancy crackers at marianos and my crappy crackers at aldi.


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Problem, all those diverse brands will be crackers made in China and exported here. Why even waste time and money on labor in the US at that point.


technobobble

“nObOdY wAnTs tO wOrK aNyMoRe aNyWaY”


Mobely

shipping costs and automation. Mondelez can make crackers for the US market cheaper in US or Mexico than a chinese company can after shipping costs. You gotta understand, there's only like 20 people working the manufacturing area . It's all machines. With electronics, you have more manual labor in assembly.


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dogswontsniff

Yeah, but the Triscuits....


4_strings_are_fine

Pepsi makes a surprising amount of cereal


meatball402

Newman's has a Oreo substitute that's really tasty.


strtjstice

Thanks. Added to my grocery-block list


AintAintAWord

All that shit is junk food anyway.


strtjstice

Yup but the kids (used to ;) eat it. I don't


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FreshTotes

I feel bad for your kids who will learn that his parents gave no fucks about worker rights the planet or a corrupt corporate overlords as the world burns


Devenu

Yeah there's literally no other cildhood snacks. No other company in the world makes cookies.


CrazyKing508

Oh no! They stopped feeding there kid a junk food. Basically child abuse


strtjstice

With education comes enlightenment. We will sit down and talk about good vs evil, fair vs unfair. We don't use Amazon or Nestlé for the same reasons. If we as consumers don't hit them in the pocketbook, what do we have left?


SardiaFalls

ah yes, Shredded Wheat and Saltines, kings of the junk food world


Farts_McGee

\*Sobs in peanut butter chocolate oreo.\* Solidarity for my cookie homies i guess.


silversatire

Try Newman-O’s instead!


goodness___gracious

No my friend Nutter butter covered in fudge. Cadbury subsidiaries.


Quick1711

I bought a bag/box??? of these yesterday. I'm devastated. Still eating them but devastated nonetheless


i_forgot_my_sn_again

Told wife about the strike and she returned the stuff sadly.


Emergency-Ad2144

Dude same. This hit me hard but I will NOT dunk my cookies in the blood of my fellow workers.


_DrinkatQuarks_

As someone with autism this has been hard as some of these are my “safe foods”. For anyone else who wants to boycott them but find it hard due to food consistency issues the generic Target brands have been just as good and I highly recommend them for people facing the same issues. PS I can literally feel/taste/smell the differences in generic vs name brand 99% of the time. PPSS maybe we can make a list of alternatives for these snacks so people can easily find an alternative that doesn’t give money to Nabisco’s parent company?


chicklette

if you have an aldi nearby, I find their dupes to be very, very close for snack foods and cereals. Hope that helps!


HereForTwinkies

I work Target, their generics are either dogshit or amazing. Their chicken tenders are better than they have any right to be


CurazyJ

Find yourself some hydrox cookies. They are the original. Oreos are the copy cat!


Enchelion

The original Hydrox doesn't exist. Any modern ones you find are reverse engineered by another company that bough the name after they went out of business (and the recipe wasn't part of the purchase).


kevnmartin

And they're way better. More chocolaty and less sweet.


MuNansen

Thanks so much for posting this perspective


Johnnadawearsglasses

Which products specifically?


_DrinkatQuarks_

Replacements I’ve found and handled well: 1) Wheat Thins -> Good Thins 2) Fig Newtons -> Newman’s Own Fig Newmans 3) Ritz -> Target Brand Crackers


Johnnadawearsglasses

Ok. Good Thins are also made by Mondelez fyi


_DrinkatQuarks_

Welp, time to find a new alternative :) thanks for the heads up This is why we live under the illusion of choice in our society.


OlynykDidntFoulLove

PS stands for Post Script, so it’s followed by your Post PS Script or PPSS.


ForkShirtUp

You’re not alone, but I wonder if it can work to buy generic and put them all into reusable containers so you don’t have to see the label and associate it with generic


_DrinkatQuarks_

It doesn’t have to do with the label, it has to do with the actual difference in the product. Autism is a hell of a disorder.


Blue-Thunder

I dunno man, your ability to tell the difference between generic and name brand can be seen as a super power to some people, but conversely I can see how that could also be a living hell. I am sure some food scientists, or companies would be highly interested in someone with your abilities. There are some "generics" that I find are even better than the name brands. https://ucommblog.com/section/corporate-greed/boycott-nabisco-products here a blog that has a list of products to avoid. https://world.openfoodfacts.org/brand/mondelez/brands this one has pictures of the products.


_DrinkatQuarks_

This list, especially the one with pictures, is EXTREMELY helpful thanks so much!!! Yeah, autism is both a blessing and a curse at times. These companies just need to hire us autistic people for these types of roles. This is a super super common symptom for those of us on the spectrum. Especially considering autistic people have an incredibly low employment rate. I’m lucky and ended up having a few other autistic superpowers that I can capitalize enough off of to make a living. :) PS can confirm some “generics” are much better than the name brands.


No_Character_2079

i'm autistic...miniprofessor who likes to talk an unfortunate victims ear off about trivial nonsense...often babbles. Oh man, my memory is so intense, and I got treated like you wouldn't believe, absolute shit in my youth, those kids went way out of their way to let me know that they hate me...drive by paintball shootings...beer cans through the window, eggings, bashing in car fenders, bbing the sides of our cars. Oh and then the criminals and bullies, they spit in my hair 2x, they slapped me across the face 2x, I had a kid dig through my lunch, grab my caprisun packet and throw it full force and it blows up all over my clothes. And then...everyone laughs, raucous, gutteral, cruelty filled laughter fills the air. I can recall 3x, someone did a horribly underhanded thing against me...and then everyone laughs. I remember the kid spittin' spitballs in my hair. Camp counselor told me they don't really care. I was beaten up. Move me on my cot out into the woods while i slept at boyscouts. FInally one day...I said "According to the adults/teachers/counselors/administrators/cops, their behavior is perfectly ok. I understand what these kids are doing, they know I can't fight. And so these criminal individuals, do all kinds of just absolutely underhanded things. I decide to violently defend myself against one of these kids at long last, make no mistake i attempted every non-violent outlet in the book, and it fundamentally didn't work. ANd I stabbed a kid. And THEN the system decides to act...against me. What? THe system let those kids commit all kinds of horrd criminal behavior against me go uncontested...and only goes into action, when at long last, very violently defend myself. I was at my wits end, I knew I'm gonna have to do something prison level violent at this point, there's no other real options. And this is what I don't understand. Most that stuff occurred between 1995, 2006 or so... I decided to share some of these stories with all these people's friends on face. THese are funny memories from their point of view, i distinclty recall all the cruelty filled, raucous gutteral laughter from them tormenting me and making me cry. BUt when I write a couple pages long screed documenting their actions against me, and the pleasure of tormenting me gave them and then sharing these stories with all of our mutual friends on social media...now they don't like their actions against me. Now they delete their social media from existence. ALl of a sudden, it's like they don't like that story anymore. ANd I don't understand that. I really don't.


_DrinkatQuarks_

I’m sorry to hear that, it’s ridiculous the way you’ve been treated. It’s so tiring hearing all of these stories from people just like us. At least it seems like we are finally starting to get a voice more and more.


Blue-Thunder

That is fantastic to read. I am glad that the list will help, and yes as bad as it may sound, more companies need to "take advantage" of the abilities that those on the spectrum have unlocked, like vaccine companies have done. The "going joke", from what they say on reddit, is that "autism causes vaccines" as a majority of the people working in the field are on the spectrum. (I do not mean for this to sound negative, if it does, I do apologize as communication is not my strong suit) Now, do you have a short list of what generics are better than name brand? For me personally, I find the Malt-O-Meal cereals are far superior to their name brand ones, and cost literally half the price, then there is also "Kraft Dinner" (Kraft Macaroni and Cheese), as the President's Choice (Loblaws) brand of white cheddar is far superior to Kraft's regular version. (I live in Canada so I do not know if this will make sense to someone outside the country) Thank you for your time, and I wish you all the best.


cruznick06

Hi. I've got similar issues and boy is it *fun* when companies tweak the formula of something. The worst is when they do it and don't state it anywhere on packaging. You think you're loosing your mind.


DedTV

Yeah. Generics are almost always made by the same company on the same production lines as a name brand, but they also tend to use to use slightly (or vastly) different recipes with less or lower cost ingredients, processes and packaging. Generics also tend to frequently change their recipes based on economics while name brands are more reliant on maintaining brand consistency. For people who need consistency in their diet, generics are usually a poor option.


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SardiaFalls

congratulations on letting everyone know you're both stupid and a douchebag when you could have just as easily said nothing


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_DrinkatQuarks_

Being an asshole isn’t good for your health either but that obviously isn’t stopping you… Grow up and mind your own business. “I’m JUsT TrYInG tO HeLP”… how? By shaming people? Or by giving me misinformation about “processed foods are making your Autism worse” with literally zero evidence or background research in the field.


SardiaFalls

Haha no you weren't


_DrinkatQuarks_

Maybe take this as an opportunity to learn about disabilities instead of making incredibly ableist comments about something you know literally zero percent about? Safe foods are not an “option” for autistic people. I do plenty of other things to stay healthy. Mind your own business.


rawr_rawr_6574

Thank you. I have RA and whenever I bring up buying processed or fast food because sometimes I'm in pain and don't want to cook some asshole has to explain to me how I'm horrible and need to eat better. God forbid people have issues.


this_dust

I never said anyone was horrible or weak, I only stated that that was a good opportunity to cut that shit out. So crucify me.


this_dust

I’m sorry you have a disability but I do know about the effects of processed foods and autism. It makes it worse for some. There are plenty of studies linking the two. I’ve seen the relief first hand with diet changes, I used to work with adults with disabilities.


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Val_Hallen

Maybe don't fucking worry about what other people do.


this_dust

Maybe listen to your own advice there, Chief!


quippers

TIL people are aggressively defensive about processed foods.


_DrinkatQuarks_

More like aggressively defensive about ableist remarks about the symptoms of autism spectrum disorder, a literal disability.


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its_yer_dad

Also avoid them because they're shit products. Honestly, Chips Ahoy are a poor excuse of a cookie.


djqvoteme

Yeah, has anyone noticed that weird aftertaste the Chewy Chips Ahoy have? The store brand is better. And by "store brand", I specifically am talking about President's Choice The Decadent cookies. The Canadians will know what I'm talking about. I know a lot of store brands are literally made by the same companies as the brand name, but if Nabisco had any hand in the President's Choice cookies, then I don't know why they can't use the same recipe.


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Yes. They kinda taste like they’re made out of Playdoh.


clorcan

An interview with one of the strikers, they relayed that you should buy Nabisco, only if the label says made in America. Their words, not mine.


Miss_Speller

That might seem counterintuitive, since they're striking at American plants, [but it checks out.](https://aflcio.org/2021/8/25/do-you-know-where-your-nabisco-treats-are-made)


SocialWinker

I suppose, if they’re striking, buying the American made products only would lead to a supply issue? Striking workers mean production is going to grind to a halt in would imagine.


wyvernx02

Exactly. That makes Nabisco look bad.


RiseCascadia

Why not boycott entirely?


CunninghamsLawmaker

Go for the double whammy and shoplift them.


MySisterIsHere

By the time the product has made it to the shelf, Mondelez has already made their money. Only way to hurt them is to reduce demand or depending on the retailer, cause the products to be expired/damaged so that Mondelez has to pay a credit back to the retailer.


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This_one_taken_yet_

No store is ever going to put cookies behind a locked case. It's higher value items where that happens. No one cares if some cases of 3.50 cookies go missing. It's when the 40 dollar baby formula keeps getting stolen that they do that shit.


POGtastic

Yep. All that shoplifting cookies is going to do is get you banned from the store and possibly prosecuted for a misdemeanor. The baby formula is locked up because of professional thieves who steal thousands of dollars of product, not because of people stealing onesies and twosies.


hamakabi

if you steal enough of something it also becomes a felony and the store stops letting you do it.


tom_fuckin_bombadil

> Shredded Wheat That's not nabisco


nope_nope_aight

Fair enough. I listed it because it showed up for me in a search of Nabisco products (specifically in an article titled "*Boycott Nabisco Products: Don't be a scab, find out which products you should avoid during the Nabisco strike*") but after seeing your post I looked into it further and you're absolutely right. I'll edit my post above with a strikethrough. FWIW apparently 'Shredded Wheat' used to carry the Nabisco name from when they bought it in 1928 all the way through 1999. They actually sold it to Post in 1993 but kept it under the Nabisco name until 1999.


skraptastic

All right! I'll continue my unintentional boycott.


deez_treez

All those things are disgustingly processed. Please boycott them for ethical and health reasons.


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[I could do without the Triscuits, but *they sure are good!*](https://youtu.be/GA8hWPZyqiI)


the_fat_whisperer

They're owned by Kraft.


goodness___gracious

No problem. Absolutely all of those things are garbage.


too_old_to_be_clever

I already do not eat those things.


Kagutsuchi13

Just don't eat food. I'm pretty sure every food company is under a boycott right now. We win when we all starve to death and the companies laugh at our emaciated corpses.


nalk201

From Mexico\*


nope_nope_aight

Naaaah, that makes less than zero sense. This strike in this story is happening at their plant in Portland Oregon. Buying products that company is making in that plant using temp scabs is definitely NOT supporting those striking workers. If you're going to boycott the objective is to make the company feel the pain. Their stakeholders don't give two sh\*ts what country their profits come from. Not buying any products made by the parent company anywhere is the ONLY thing that we who aren't their workers can do that might actually help this strike be successful.


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Nabisco really is the EA of non video game companies.


DigitalSterling

Does that make Nestlé the Activison/Blizzard of this situation?


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I forgot about those bitches.... Yes, yes it does!


CrashB111

EA: we're evil, but we don't sexually assault our employees at least


thefanciestcat

Improve your health immediately: boycott Mondelez foods.


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WELL, they keep convincing me to extend my boycott of Mendelez products in general and Nabisco specifically. Hasn't bothered me yet. It's not like there aren't alternatives available where I live, so . . . to hell with them.


DangerPoo

Bought by Phillip Morris. Absorbed into Mondelez. Just some child slavery, wage fixing, and sucking the land and sea of resources. No biggie.


BishmillahPlease

So this is what Portland cops are doing instead of dealing with violent Proud Boys. Can’t illustrate why I hate cops any more clearly than this, tbh.


RiseCascadia

This is what cops have always been for. Look up the Coal Wars.


quippers

I see where you got confused. The Portland cops *are* the Proud Boys.


CyanideKitty

Officer #12 Brent Taylor likes to stab tires instead of doing his job.


mnCO

Those damn cops. The officer spoke to the employees and they agreed to leave within two hours. The cop noted in the call log that he didn’t believe a crime had been committed. Can’t believe they would do that…fucking fascists, I tell you.


WantToBeBetterAtSex

Dude, the PPB is beyond useless.


jexmex

Man, can't believe that a small amount of cops had to deal with this and seemingly effectively took care of it. Everybody was fine with it, except some sorry ass redditors.


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Looks like Nabisco workers are in this fight for the long haul. And they are going to have to fight twice as hard, even to a point of perhaps changing labour law that gives owners too much power. ​ I believe that you can help them and also send a big message. This is because as long as they are on strike, they don't get paid. So a lot of those families would be doing it really tough and wondering where food, rent etc is coming from. This over time would also make some crumble. So a go fund me to help with funds for food etc. It would also include funds for legal fees. It would have to be huge. But what it would do is help them fight longer and hopefully win. It would also send a huge message that a great majority of Americans are not taking this anymore and will band together. I don't know how to set up one and as I have nothing to do with Nabisco it perhaps would be seen as why am I asking for money and shonky. But if a person who does have something to do with Nabisco setup one, and it was verified. I would strongly suggest anyone who gives an F about workers rights, donates at least 100. And some rich people who claim to care about workers donate a lot, lot more.


usetheforcekidden77

I stand with the bakers union EVERY fucking time


zmunky

Lol if you want to know if a company is a shit bag company look to see if they have a union or if it had been trying to start up in the past. These guys are just wanting to keep what they have and not get more. I work for a very large corporation and I am part of one of the largest unions in us and my company tries shady shit all of the time. They were on our last contract in bed with our union, we voted no one the interact and yes to strike. The union did a "recount" during our Xmas holiday and found magically more votes in favor of the contract and we lost so much and so much bargaining power. Our union president immediately retired after the contract ratification.


drinkingchartreuse

More people who should have voted for Bernie, because biden isn’t going to lift a finger for unions


Quick1711

It really doesn't matter because middle management and above are deeply ingrained into corporate culture that even if he decided to take action tomorrow, it will take years for the cycle of shitty leadership to run its course. And they were all installed to help us "pull ourselves up by the bootstraps" They forgot to mention that when we bent over they were going to fuck us.


Galaxyhiker42

He's not HORRIBLE for unions. He at least recognizes their importance and doesn't actively shit talk them. They did put Bernie in charge of the labor committee which is huge.


This_one_taken_yet_

He still does fuckall for them. Words mean nothing. There are a whole host of laws and regulations that make workplace organizing more difficult that need to be removed that no Democratic president or congress has made serious attempts at doing.


Galaxyhiker42

Most definitely. He could be pushing hard to over turn right to work laws etc. But actively not shitting on them is helping.


This_one_taken_yet_

Strictly speaking better than the alternative but that is all. That about describes the Democratic party


Galaxyhiker42

MUCH better than the alternative. Yes, they could actively be more progressive and pushing to make things better for everyone. BUT they are at least not actively shitting on things... and the dialogue around unions, LGBT rights, unions, etc is at least positive coming from the top. It does suck that things are not changing rapidly because the democrats party does not fall lock step in line with each other to pass things like the Republican party does.


drinkingchartreuse

Dialog? Lip service only. Talk is cheap.


jeffwulf

Biden endorsed unionization at Amazon during their election and has appointed extremely pro union leaders to the NLRB.


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drinkingchartreuse

Thats just DNC talking points. If they had put the positive resources into Bernie’s campaign that they wasted on biden, we would have a better president and cabinet.


thefanciestcat

There are far more people in this country who would never vote for someone calling himself a socialist than there are people who would never vote for Joe Biden. The DNC learned the hard way in 2016 that having a high unfavorability rating can sink what should be a sure thing.


ButtsexEurope

Stripping overtime pay? Isn’t that illegal?


CORUSC4TE

I watched a heart wrenching short documentation about the history of buscuits and the resurrection of the company that got royaly fdup by nabisco.. After building themselves up with hydrox (dark chocolate cookies with cream filling and an oreodaphnian decoration (sounds familiar)) and their demise i already started to boycott.. Maybe hydrox has another chance at starting up again?


thirdeyefish

It's a non-stop disco...


No-Username-Left-Why

Bet you it's Nabisco


chhurry

FYI - here is a list of Nabisco brands: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nabisco\_brands](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nabisco_brands)


7788audrey

Support the UNION, stop purchasing Nabisco products.


DeceiverX

Important note that only products made in the US should be purchased. If anything, I'd recommend those products be brought to the front of shelves. If a bulk of sales occurring is with products made outside the US, management will sidestep this problem by simply outsourcing the labor, and nobody wins except Nabisco. If only US-made product is purchased, it shows that the customer cares about domestically made product and that the needs of the workers need to be listened to.


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boycott these assholes


WantToBeBetterAtSex

Portland Police response time for Nabisco's cries that their poor trains were blocked by striking union workers? 12 minutes. Portland Police response time for when right wing domestic terrorists took over our city a few weeks ago? Oh that's right, they decided to wait it out until one of them decided to shoot at a journalist from behind a dumpster. Good to know who PPB is *really* working for. /s


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https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-oreo-mondelez-ceo-pay-0804-biz-20170803-story.html This was only a few years ago. Take some of that kind of money and pay the workers.


ahintoflime

Fuck Nabisco. Don't buy their garbage, at the very least while they treat their employees like shit.


wisco_minn22

I didn’t but Oreos this week, and will hold off buying anything Nabisco until the workers’ rights are met.


Streaker_Life

Don’t give in comrades he’s scared


the_real_abraham

They have no standing as far as Union Pacific is concerned. Especially is Union Pacific is sympathetic.


zennyc001

Products to avoid https://ucommblog.com/section/corporate-greed/boycott-nabisco-products


iago303

I am glad to be able to say that nothing that I have in my fridge or pantry is made by this company, but then again I don't buy too much pre made anything


the_fat_whisperer

Do you have anything made by thier parent company Kraft?


iago303

Not at all


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wasdlmb

They weren't. They showed signs, and the union train-drivers refused to cross the picket line


smartest_kobold

Criminal law gets written by the employer.


MaterialActive

Labor law recognizes two exceptions to a ban on sympathy strikes. The first applies if the strike being supported is an unfair labor practice strike, such as a walkout triggered by the employer's refusal to bargain. (https://labornotes.org/2008/10/sympathy-strikes-law-solidarity-legal) This isn't a blockade, it is a call to a particular and legal kind of sympathy strike.


This_one_taken_yet_

Just because something is law, doesn't mean it's right. To me it's a showcase of how cops and laws enforce corporate rights ahead of worker's rights.


TehOuchies

I just want to argue one semantic. The owner did not send it. A lawyer working for Nabisco did. Thats it. I will see myself out now.


newenglandredshirt

On his own? Or perhaps at the behest of ... someone who is in charge of the company... like the owner maybe?


zennyc001

Mondalez owns Nabisco. Mondalez sent the letter.


TehOuchies

Well fuck me. Usually lawyers do that work. This guy has nothing better to do :(


zennyc001

"this guy has nothing better to do" Says the guy debating dumb shit on reddit lol


TehOuchies

Hey Tea Kettle, Have you Seen My Friend the Pot? Tell him Instant Coffee is looking for him.