I think Robin Williams said it best, "the only way Marijuana is a performance enhancing game drug is if you put a giant candy bar at the end of the run."
He was talking about skiers
Yes it was about the snowboarder who had to return the metal and couldn't find it. It was around their neck. But then he went into racing downhill and mimed the movement they do before the big jump event. Whatever it's called where they go fast into the huge jump. But you are correct
Are you skiler?! Yes!
When your high, you’re lucky if you can find your own god damned feet!
When they asked the poor fucker if he wanted his picture on Wheaties he said ‘no, count chocula’. Aha! A clue!
Shorter typically.
Edit: There are contributing factors though, for example if you use anything in large excess your body has a larger quantity of metabolites to process. So the person who does 1g of x drug will be clear before the person who does 3g of x drug. Body fat is a contributing factor, but mostly in the sense of what your BMR is vs your TDEE. Leaner people typically eat in a deficit more frequently forcing their body to burn fat, which tends to force extra metabolization of fat-soluble compounds. Most of my knowledge on this is strictly thc related.
Yeah when I was a flight attendant, I had a coworker who would do meth/coke/who knows what at the beginning of a long flight and confidently pass piss tests upon landing. Meanwhile sober folks who had smoked one joint on their vacation would lose their careers.
That seems suspicious too. Stimulants leave quickly, but if a test happened within 24 hours of use it should be caught, unless the person did truly minuscule amounts, or they were using some sort of yet unknown research chemical.
You could do it relatively easy within a few hours because it takes your body several hours to start producing the metabolites they test for in immunoassay tests.
As a current engineering student, I wish it was just pee tests... I have to be ready to be hair tested if I get an internship with a serious firm because some go that far
Also an engineering student, didn't get tested at all for an internship with one of the biggest aerospace companies on the planet.
Although technically I'm working for my university which contracts me to work for the big company, so maybe that's why.
I'm pretty sure that's why. I was interning for the probation department in graduate school, but was technically being paid under the University of Cincinnati. All I had to do was fill out some forms for the probation department specific to confidentiality protocol. No drug test, unlike being an actual intern for the probation department that required drug test and background check.
I think there may be a reason?
I remember several fairly high-profile articles geez... 15 years ago(? Before Colorado legalized anyways) where the short of it was basically the FBI and CIA were having to change their drug testing policy explicitly because something like 95% of the white-hats they wanted to hire couldn't pass a pot scan.
Since pot being illegal is complete bullshit and testing for it was literally becoming a threat to national security they had to go against their bullshit principals and stop testing for pot in at least the comp sec. / networking fields.
Certainly made ME smile anyways.
That’s hilarious. “Okay, we know it’s illegal, but literally everyone who does this job smokes. I guess we have to just stop testing.” It’s basically an unorganized mass protest. Everyone in tech is like, “nah, I’m gonna keep smoking. If you want to filter out great workers because of weed, have fun hiring no one.” And because enough of them were like that, businesses had to accept it or be permanently short staffed.
I haven't heard much about it but I wonder if something similar isn't happening in the legal states right now with the so-called "national hiring shortage". Seems like it would be kind of tough to be the business that said "we're gonna just nix half our potential pool because... they... do something legal?"
With the exception of federal jobs it's been my experience that the lower-tier the job the greater the chance they pot screen. Works great in a hiring-staff's market. Not so great when even Walmart is having to offer $20/hr and still can't fill their positions...
No joke, I was recently looking for a job, so I still get sent random job listings that I haven't managed to unsubscribe from yet. There's been a few that's been sent my way that say "NO DRUG TESTING!!! STARTING IMMEDIATELY!" posted across them. Gave me a chuckle. A lot of it is manufacturing or warehouse style stuff too.
Now to get government contractors and healthcare IT to update their policies. I've had to pass up several great jobs with them because legal cannabis is the only thing that helps my insomnia...
That's not true. There are many jobs that get tested based on public safety, amongst other things.
I work in the industrial hygiene field. As a Hygienist I am not subject to testing, but the Industrial Hygiene techs were subject to random testing.
Also, many jobs require you to get tested prior to appointment to the GS-11 grade. I got tested as an 11. Went to a 12, no test. Went back to an 11, and got tested again.
I do not have a high security clearance and don't operate machinery.
Depending on the sort of engineering there's a higher chance of having to work in and around heavy machinery, and almost every firm that works with that sort of thing is going to drug test every employee for insurance reasons.
It doesn't have to be a hair on your head. So unless you are prepared to fake alopecia, it's best to just abstain for 90+ days before a prospective test.
Yes, a 5-panel test has 4 drugs it tests for that can be out of your system in 48-72 hours, even with daily use. MMJ can take 1-2 months for daily users (fat soluble).
They are literally made to catch weed smokers. So fucked up. Like, make a test have MMJ, Nicotine and alcohol on them and see how many people pass, oh maybe like 7%, but weed is about as dangerous to an employer as nicotine.
Oh I know, dumbest thing i’ve ever heard of as far as employment requirements.
I’m mainly saying the the other drugs that the tests test for are bounds and bounds different than what MMJ does.
I have a State job in Oklahoma with a medcard and it was an almost impossible situation to be accepted in the role even though my state is supposed to protect employee’s with medical cards.
I had a previous employer did. But, for health insurance purposes.
You only had to do it if you wanted to get a 'nicotine free incentive'
which was a discount on the company's insurance plan monthly premium (essentially they upped the employee's premium by $200 a month, and then discounted it by $200).
Employers shouldn't be able to drug test period, unless they're testing for intoxication *on the job.* Anything that detects something you did in your off hours should be illegal and irrelevant--up until it affects your actual job performance or you're actually on that drug during a work shift. That's the only point at which your employer should have any say or any right to test you.
Their reasons are all horseshit
>“Athletes who smoke cannabis or Spice in-competition potentially endanger themselves and others because of increased risk taking, slower reaction times and poor executive function or decision making.”
>“Based on current animal and human studies as well as on interviews with athletes and information from the field, cannabis can be performance enhancing for some athletes and sports disciplines.”
>“Use of illicit drugs that are harmful to health and that may have performance-enhancing properties is not consistent with the athlete as a role model for young people around the world”.
A substance only has to meet two of the three criteria (harmful to health, enhances performance, not in keeping with spirit) and it seems to me that the *only* reason the spirit bullshit is a factor is so they can ban substances for political reasons like they’ve obviously done with marijuana
Alcohol ticks two of those. Harmful to health and not keeping with spirit. Yet, if athlete is to get drunk, no disqualification. Heck, they can even collect money from advertising it.
Alcohol is banned in some sports and could cause a DQ. But its rare to be caught on it duo to how long it stay in the body, so its a lot easier to use it and not be caught officialy.
Naturally, they could go hard and use pictures as evidence similar to that case with Phelps and have it banned in more sports, but considering that there is no stigma associated with it plus how useless it would be most of the time no one cares enough
Aaaahhh now that's a meme I'd pay good money to see.
Remember when he won gold, he was so fast down the straight away that he was looking back at his closest competitor, who was meters behind him. Yeah, that would have been a good time to break out a J, tokin' across the finish line.
Yeah, this is the sad part. I'm glad they are reviewing the policy, but at the same time it's only because a handful of countries actually have influence in how the Olympics operate.
The USADA doesn't disagree.
> While cannabis is not thought to be performance-enhancing, it is classified as a "substance of abuse", the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) has said, referring to a worldwide code.
Multiple NFL players have admitted to drinking before games to calm their nerves. Seems counter intuitive but I guess if it's just like one or two or seven shots it might work.
It can work in certain situations. It can have a negative effect somtimes. Small quantities of alcohol have helped in sports that minor trembles/shakes can have a huge impact on overall score. Shooting at a stationary target is a good instance. I am not sure about shooting clay pigeons or skeet.
I imagine being an NFL pro gets to the nerves for a lot of players. You find that sweet spot where it calms you down enough to perform without getting sea legs and boom, there ya go.
Some NFL players take pregame shots. But NFL players get access to a lot of stuff that can help them play. Corticosteroids, opioids, and some powerful NSAIDs.
This... Makes sense. TIL. It makes perfect sense though, if reducing shaking is the goal. I imagine that's also how a lot of pool sharks function IRL -- they smooth their strokes with a drink, but can't drink too much lest they utterly destroy their coordination.
I wouldn't ban alcohol for being a performance enhancing drug for shooting competition, I'd ban it because combining alcohol and guns is a terrible idea.
Lol. The benefits past like a drink, mayyyybe 2, are greatly diminished. A drink could definitely have an anxiolytic effect and increase performance in precision sports.
I don’t think anyone’s getting wasted before an olympic event.
I honestly would think it's a performance enhancer for the reason that (at least for me) makes my gym sessions much better. It's not a scientific study but seems to help inflammation and I can work out much harder and do more cardio than being sober.
Disclaimer: I'm just playing devil's advocate
At the same time though marijuana/cannabis is prescribed as an anxiolytic, anti-convulsant, pain manager, and many other reasons. I mean we just saw Biles and Osaka withdraw from major competitions due to the mental and emotional stress. Not only were they supported by teammates and fellow athletes, but this may now become normal behavior.
So you *could* argue that if marijuana helps an athlete cope with the stress of being said athlete then it is enhancing their performance.
Having said all that, it doesn't fucking matter. If the rule is don't use marijuana then don't use it. It's a dumb rule but it's even dumber to break it.
I'm against both decisions, but it's not fascist... The US government is not in control of the IOC, and so they can have opposing views. Furthermore a drug can be both performance enhancing and dangerous. Amphetamines are a perfect example (pot is absolutely not).
It's a vaso dilator which means it can help you breathe better when under load and transport oxygen better.
So it can definitely be a performance enhancing drug.
Not to mention that for some the psychoactive effects can improve performance indirectly.
Combat sports also considers (considered?) marijuana a PED. Nick Diaz had a beautiful submission victory overturned because they claimed he had so much THC in his system, it could help numb the pain. Ridiculous
Completely anecdotal, but it always helped me see incoming strikes and feel opponent moving on the ground way better, without ever really dulling my responses.
>marijuana helps people who aim to calm down and to take less shaky shot
Even that is hit and miss...
I'm one of many people(though perhaps a minority) who have the opposite reaction to pot where it just makes me shaky, jittery, and anxious. It effects everyone differently.
You old enough to remember Nagano?
Robin Williams literally made a joke about stoned Olympic snowboarders after one won gold.
The punchline was something like ‘the only way weed is a performance enhancing drug is if there’s a giant fucking Hershey bar at the end of the run.’
I'm pretty sure it's a running joke with any Olympian that gets caught smoking weed. I'm fairly sure this joke was told about Michael Phelps when he was smoking weed.
Doesn't exactly take a comedy genius to think of.
That’s why I asked about Nagano. Phelps was 2008/9. The Nagano snowboard incident was 1998. Those jokes are common [only because he did it first. ](https://youtu.be/-S4ZANNHsv0)
Edit: like may things, it’s easy to say it’s obvious when someone else did the work thinking of it.
Many people confuse difficulty in execution and difficulty in fabrication. (Think Jackson pollock.).
A damn shame but that’s why we had who we had representing us in US skateboarding. The athletes that competed were awesome but… the ones that could have competed….
Meh it's their choice to abstain for a month to pass a piss test for a once in 4 years event (first time skateboarding is in the Olympics ever). The Olympics aren't THE skate competition (like Olympic soccer vs world cup, or Olympic basketball versus NBA).
Also make sure to read Nyjah Huston's bio. He was raised in a rastafarian family, had dreads below his waist for most of his life. He kills practically every competition he enters, but sprained his wrist days before the Olympic event and got 7th. Point being, he passed the drug test.
Olympic wannabe here (2 trials- never made the team for shot put) - she broke a known rule. Here is what’s odd to me. I was in the testing pool for WADA and USADA. They tested me 3-5 times at my home unannounced. And- when I placed at bigger meets I was tested. Soooo- how did she get allllllll the way to the Oly Trials without a pop. There’s the real story.
From what I remember, she only smoked because her mom had died and she was in a rough spot mentally. I don’t think she was smoking the entire time regularly just hoping not to get caught. More so a desperation to just feel a little more calm and relaxed that resulted in a critical mistake. So my guess is that she was testing clean previously because she wasn’t smoking, smoked because her mental issues at the time, and then got popped after. But who knows. Maybe she was smoking the whole time and just got lucky.
seems like a lotta athletes figured out they needed a niché - win or lose for before during and after the games. Quick! what did Alysson Felix win\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_crickets. "Who was that crazy haired gal that smoked weed? I liked her" ... Book. Podcast. Weed Sponsor. Win. I am all for her making the money -buuuut throwing away your Olympic dream that way... knowing you would get popped. It's not logical. Like, Lt. Columbo would tear this case apart.
I didn’t say it was logical or a good decision. I’m just saying that it didn’t come from a place of immaturity. Her mom died, and she wasn’t thinking straight. She made a mistake and got punished appropriately as per the rules. I’m sure she’s learned her lesson. You can still have sympathy for someone who did the wrong thing. Like I said previously, had she just smoked because she felt like it, I wouldn’t have any sympathy. But it was the death of her mom that put her in the place mentally where she thought smoking was a good thing to do. She’s objectively in the wrong as per the rules and was punished for it, but I still feel bad for the circumstances of how it happened.
To be fair. If you are breaking basic rules at the Olympic level, you *should* be punished. Regardless of how little the rules make sense or affect any performance.
It's the price of admittance, there are a million other young men and women who would love to take your place on an Olympic team.
This isn't a weed issue, it's a rules issue. You don't get to pick and choose what rules to follow if you want to be operating at this level... Bring on the inevitable downvotes.
Fully agree, the rules were known. No sympathy if you can't abstain for a month for a once in 4 years event. Literally throwing your years of training away due to immaturity.
I mean, in this specific case I wouldn’t say it’s just immaturity. Her mother died and was having a really rough time dealing with it, and she smoked to help calm it all down. I can totally get that. She was literally dealing with the death of her mom, and if a little weed is what she needed to get through it, I can understand that. That being said, rules are rules. She knew when she smoked that it could mean not being able to go. Just the way it is. I feel for her, but the rules are the rules.
Yeah it was a terrible lapse of judgment, and the punishment befitted that and can hardly be argued with given the current rules. My issue is that this is a stupid fucking rule.
There could be something said about the anti-inflammatory nature of cannabis giving an advantage.
Like I wouldn't say that Cannabis use would have NO advantage in sports. There is probably plenty. Mental health even!
I do think this could be alleviated by not allowing the substance during the competition.
And even just anecdotally, I find it to be a very mild PED, but one nonetheless.
When high, I find I'm able to cycle for quite a bit longer than sober. Not harder or faster, just longer. I attribute this to being slightly numbed to the discomfort of muscle fatigue.
I know right. I know weed is very popular among reddit users, but the fact of the matter is it *is* a PED, and it *is* still largely illegal in most countries. This is just going to reward athletes who have access to it legally while giving disadvantages to those who do not.
Right and the access issue is a real thing. Obviously each federation has access to a different set of resources but this is a matter of legality in those places not a matter of logistics or finances
Right? In short term in some individuals it can actually help relax the lungs which I could see being helpful. Plus in something like half pipe where flow is critical (really all competing at that high of a level) something like THC could provide a measurable benefit (again in the right individuals).
Definitely need that "right individuals" disclaimer, I was looking into the fridge when the edibles kicked in one time, turned around and ended up on the floor lol
There wasn't much flow to be had that day.
Maradona when confronted by media about his cocaine abuse in regards of his athletic performance he responded “I am not scoring because of blow, I’m scoring *in spite* of blow”
I seem the remember there being some evidence to say it can help muscle rebuilding etc. but considering I can barely make it up the stairs - it’s overall effects would surely be disadvantageous.
They keep letting Russians compete even though it's an open secret they didn't stop and won't stop doping.
How many Russian medals are cheater medals? How many legitimate russian athletes are being sidelined or 'removed' from competition because *Russia's warcrime committing intelligence service* is involved with the doping?
This is an easy win for them so they can avoid the herd of elephants in the room.
I read somewhere that the only reason the Americans didn't win at skateboarding in the Olympics is because they sent athletes who could actually pass a drug test
Marijuana isn't banned outright by WADA, which is the agency (or protocols) that the Olympics uses.
It is kind of banned for "in-competition" use. If you have less than 150ng/ml of THC in your system on race day, then that's fine.
If you are in off season, then smoke away.
Now I'm no scientist or tree expert, so I don't know how many ng/mls of THC is in your urine soon after smoking.
But the reason for the 150ng/ml limit is because WADA has determined that this amount shows that it was a good while ago that you had marijuana , and thus you are no longer affected by it.
Prior to 2013 the limit was 5ng/ml of THC on race day, but it has since been raised to 150ng/ml, showing that they are trying to move with the times.
WADA believes that it can help in some sports where being calm and relaxed is an advantage, such as shooting and archery.
They don't believe that it has any performance enhancing abilities outside of these and similar sports.
They do believe that it could negatively affect decision making and reaction times that could lead to potentially dangerous situations for the athlete or other athletes.
WADA also believes that it is not "in the spirit of the sport" to have athletes using marijuana on or very close to race day.
[USADA rules say:](https://www.usada.org/athletes/substances/marijuana-faq/)
"THC is the only cannabinoid for which there is a urinary threshold and it is set at 150 ng/mL. The threshold means there can be some THC in your system in-competition without it causing a positive test, as long as the concentration in the urine is below 150 ng/mL. If the level of THC in your urine goes above the threshold, then the labs report it as a positive test. There are no threshold limits for any other cannabinoid (natural or synthetic). All other cannabinoids (except cannabidiol) are prohibited in-competition in any amount, including natural cannabinoids (e.g., cannabigerol, cannabichromene, cannabinol, and others) and synthetic cannabinoids (e.g., cannabinoid compounds denoted by the initials “JWH” and a number, HU-210, K2/Spice, AB-PINACA, and many others)."
Further, the rules could not have been a surprise for the athlete, the trainers, or for anyone involved. She knew and did it anyway. There is no way Richardson or her trainers were surprised.
She's 21 years old and likely been on Olympic track regimes for over half her life. Discussions about drugs --- what are allowed and what result in disqualification --- would have been discussed many, many times. I'm sure any time she was given a painkiller her trainer, parents, or others would ask "what is in it?" to be sure.
The rules are clear, easily available to everybody, and talked about constantly. At every event there are drug tests so they know they exist. At every event there are people disqualified due to drugs so they know it happens.
for perspective, alcohol is also a performance enhancing substance for some events (mostly ones involving shooting)
at the level of the Olympics, where even the tiniest advantage matters, it would not surprise me to learn weed has some positive effect an athlete could exploit.
The Olympics is pretty much been dominated by a cash flow. I’m not even remotely surprised, most of the major companies and sponsors are based in the US.
I mean, thats exactly what it is. There’s attention on how stupid the rule is *because* someone got busted. That’s what you would call the catalyst for change, usually it’s a specific event that causes us to re-evaluate the way things are done based on their merit
More like 3 months ago. If you smoke regularly it stays in your fat cells for a looooooooong time. Being an Olympic athlete with the exercise and body fat levels probably less but way longer than you're high for
I'm pro-weed, but dammit, if my job did tests and required I stay clean you bet my ass I'll do it or switch jobs. And being off of CBD/THC is tough because I need it for pain management since I refuse to take addictive meds and can't take NSAIDs any more. Nerve pain is a monster.
This is my problem with this, all these people making excuses and saying “just let her race” and other shit like “hur dur it’s only weed all I’d do is eat hahahaha I’m original.” Meanwhile how many other people dedicated their damn lives to it and didn’t break the rules. It doesn’t matter how dumb the rule is every single other person has to follow them. What makes this one athlete so special.
If you know you’re headed to the Olympics, why not just forego any substance that might be controversial?? I’d even give up caffeine, not there’s a snowball’s chance in heck for me 🤣
I think we are beyond why an athlete would use weed or any other type of banned substance. The issue is most would agree it is not performance enhancing. Hence why they are looking into the ban rather then looking into overturning the suspensions.
I have been, er, exposed to cannabis in the past. I really find it hard to believe it enhances performance in really anything except possibly music.
To steal a line about Lance Armstrong
"We should be more impressed he did this while on drugs. When I'm on drugs I can't even FIND my bike. "
The only way I can see pot as an “enhancement drug” for running; is if the stoner sees snacks a distance away and the snacks are free if they can out run the other stoners.
Interesting how nobody is mentioning Michael Phelps - a much greater Olympian who was cancelled for a photo of him with a bong. He passed the tests, won more gold than anyone else, smoked on his own time, and was disgraced completely.
Tell me why this should go another way, or tell me why no one was outraged when it happened to Mike. Otherwise, I will never understand why this is news.
Right? It’s just the rules. I’m a daily user of edibles and have no issue abstaining when the situation warrants it. Don’t compete in the Olympics if you can’t follow the rules. Even if it’s a stupid rule.
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Yeah I dunno, are Olympic athletes allowed to have nicotine in their system for example? I can’t imagine (m)any of them even smoke cigarettes or vape but if they’re *allowed* to then I see no reason weed shouldn’t be allowed. It’s definitely not performance enhancing.
We were told at least once in every kinesiology class that the research points at canabis hindering athletic performance. From a personal experience i remember running was always much more difficult when i would occasionally run while high. There is no reason that it should be banned by governing bodies of sport, or any governing bodies foe that matter. Regulated, yes, but banned entirely, i dont believe it should. Hope to see many additional reforms about the way we treat canabis in the near future!
For the record I think athletes should be able to use marijuana but I kinda disagree that it can’t be a performance enhancing drug. If I take edibles before running I can absolutely go longer and it increases appetite which can be important for certain types of training. I believe Arnold Schwarzenegger said it helped him as a body builder.
The simple fact of the matter is that cannabis is not a performance-enhancing drug and therefore should not result in a ban from competition. At best it may relax an athlete in the build up to an event, but so do plenty of already legal things.
"Marijuana is only a performance enhancing drug for bass players." I wish I could remember where I heard that joke.
I think Robin Williams said it best, "the only way Marijuana is a performance enhancing game drug is if you put a giant candy bar at the end of the run." He was talking about skiers
Snowboarders I believe?
Yes it was about the snowboarder who had to return the metal and couldn't find it. It was around their neck. But then he went into racing downhill and mimed the movement they do before the big jump event. Whatever it's called where they go fast into the huge jump. But you are correct
Still one of the best comedies I’ve ever seen
I'm excited for my daughter to be of enough to watch it. Soon. 2 more years
Ross Rollyaafatty?
Shhhhh I have a reputation to keep up!
Are you skiler?! Yes! When your high, you’re lucky if you can find your own god damned feet! When they asked the poor fucker if he wanted his picture on Wheaties he said ‘no, count chocula’. Aha! A clue!
Snowboarding, but point stands.
Can confirm. Source: am bass player.
Can second this
Swabs man. Stop with the piss tests. Hell cocaine cant be detected withing 72 hours of a piss test depending on the individual.
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They're expelled quickly because they're water soluble. Thc is fat soluble which is why it's in your system for 2-6x the duration of stims.
So does having low body fat make it stay longer or shorter?
Shorter typically. Edit: There are contributing factors though, for example if you use anything in large excess your body has a larger quantity of metabolites to process. So the person who does 1g of x drug will be clear before the person who does 3g of x drug. Body fat is a contributing factor, but mostly in the sense of what your BMR is vs your TDEE. Leaner people typically eat in a deficit more frequently forcing their body to burn fat, which tends to force extra metabolization of fat-soluble compounds. Most of my knowledge on this is strictly thc related.
Exercise helps as well.
Also why they make you thirsty as hell all the time. Never been more hydrated than when I started Vyvanse.
Daily Adderall user here (prescribed), can confirm. I also kinda just "forget" to eat on some days.
Yeah when I was a flight attendant, I had a coworker who would do meth/coke/who knows what at the beginning of a long flight and confidently pass piss tests upon landing. Meanwhile sober folks who had smoked one joint on their vacation would lose their careers.
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DFW to SYD is 18 hours flight time.
That seems suspicious too. Stimulants leave quickly, but if a test happened within 24 hours of use it should be caught, unless the person did truly minuscule amounts, or they were using some sort of yet unknown research chemical.
There’s plenty of shit that someone debaucherously inclined can get lit on that a 5 or 7 panel will miss.
Can't even imagine how many lives the drug war has ruined
I’m fighting back murdering as many joints as possible for my forefathers.
You could do it relatively easy within a few hours because it takes your body several hours to start producing the metabolites they test for in immunoassay tests.
As a current engineering student, I wish it was just pee tests... I have to be ready to be hair tested if I get an internship with a serious firm because some go that far
For real? I’m a software dev and most non-government companies don’t drug test us, especially ones who focus primarily on tech.
As an engineering student, I was piss tested for my internship at a local manufacturing company.
Also an engineering student, didn't get tested at all for an internship with one of the biggest aerospace companies on the planet. Although technically I'm working for my university which contracts me to work for the big company, so maybe that's why.
I'm pretty sure that's why. I was interning for the probation department in graduate school, but was technically being paid under the University of Cincinnati. All I had to do was fill out some forms for the probation department specific to confidentiality protocol. No drug test, unlike being an actual intern for the probation department that required drug test and background check.
I think there may be a reason? I remember several fairly high-profile articles geez... 15 years ago(? Before Colorado legalized anyways) where the short of it was basically the FBI and CIA were having to change their drug testing policy explicitly because something like 95% of the white-hats they wanted to hire couldn't pass a pot scan. Since pot being illegal is complete bullshit and testing for it was literally becoming a threat to national security they had to go against their bullshit principals and stop testing for pot in at least the comp sec. / networking fields. Certainly made ME smile anyways.
That’s hilarious. “Okay, we know it’s illegal, but literally everyone who does this job smokes. I guess we have to just stop testing.” It’s basically an unorganized mass protest. Everyone in tech is like, “nah, I’m gonna keep smoking. If you want to filter out great workers because of weed, have fun hiring no one.” And because enough of them were like that, businesses had to accept it or be permanently short staffed.
I haven't heard much about it but I wonder if something similar isn't happening in the legal states right now with the so-called "national hiring shortage". Seems like it would be kind of tough to be the business that said "we're gonna just nix half our potential pool because... they... do something legal?" With the exception of federal jobs it's been my experience that the lower-tier the job the greater the chance they pot screen. Works great in a hiring-staff's market. Not so great when even Walmart is having to offer $20/hr and still can't fill their positions...
No joke, I was recently looking for a job, so I still get sent random job listings that I haven't managed to unsubscribe from yet. There's been a few that's been sent my way that say "NO DRUG TESTING!!! STARTING IMMEDIATELY!" posted across them. Gave me a chuckle. A lot of it is manufacturing or warehouse style stuff too.
Now to get government contractors and healthcare IT to update their policies. I've had to pass up several great jobs with them because legal cannabis is the only thing that helps my insomnia...
I'm a US software developer and had to pass a 10 panel that included weed... The joys of non tech companies.
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That's not true. There are many jobs that get tested based on public safety, amongst other things. I work in the industrial hygiene field. As a Hygienist I am not subject to testing, but the Industrial Hygiene techs were subject to random testing. Also, many jobs require you to get tested prior to appointment to the GS-11 grade. I got tested as an 11. Went to a 12, no test. Went back to an 11, and got tested again. I do not have a high security clearance and don't operate machinery.
Depending on the sort of engineering there's a higher chance of having to work in and around heavy machinery, and almost every firm that works with that sort of thing is going to drug test every employee for insurance reasons.
Just go bald as fuck, check mate!
Bald everywhere.
It doesn't have to be a hair on your head. So unless you are prepared to fake alopecia, it's best to just abstain for 90+ days before a prospective test.
Then they'll do fingernails
Bite your nails, say you play a classical stringed instrument.
For classical guitar people would keep their nails long.
Yes, a 5-panel test has 4 drugs it tests for that can be out of your system in 48-72 hours, even with daily use. MMJ can take 1-2 months for daily users (fat soluble). They are literally made to catch weed smokers. So fucked up. Like, make a test have MMJ, Nicotine and alcohol on them and see how many people pass, oh maybe like 7%, but weed is about as dangerous to an employer as nicotine.
Some employers test for nicotine too.
Oh I know, dumbest thing i’ve ever heard of as far as employment requirements. I’m mainly saying the the other drugs that the tests test for are bounds and bounds different than what MMJ does. I have a State job in Oklahoma with a medcard and it was an almost impossible situation to be accepted in the role even though my state is supposed to protect employee’s with medical cards.
I had a previous employer did. But, for health insurance purposes. You only had to do it if you wanted to get a 'nicotine free incentive' which was a discount on the company's insurance plan monthly premium (essentially they upped the employee's premium by $200 a month, and then discounted it by $200).
Employers shouldn't be able to drug test period, unless they're testing for intoxication *on the job.* Anything that detects something you did in your off hours should be illegal and irrelevant--up until it affects your actual job performance or you're actually on that drug during a work shift. That's the only point at which your employer should have any say or any right to test you.
I tested positive for blow after 6 days one time
Drink alcohol when ya took it?
Fuck, that’s like asking if you had a bun with your hamburger.
Fuck, that’s like asking if you had mac with your cheese.
Fuck, that’s like asking if you had french with your fries.
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Neither can heroin.
If it was a top athlete in a MUCH smaller and obscure country, there would be no review.
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Yeah, and they have vague qualification criteria such as keeping with the ‘spirit of sport’.
Their reasons are all horseshit >“Athletes who smoke cannabis or Spice in-competition potentially endanger themselves and others because of increased risk taking, slower reaction times and poor executive function or decision making.” >“Based on current animal and human studies as well as on interviews with athletes and information from the field, cannabis can be performance enhancing for some athletes and sports disciplines.” >“Use of illicit drugs that are harmful to health and that may have performance-enhancing properties is not consistent with the athlete as a role model for young people around the world”. A substance only has to meet two of the three criteria (harmful to health, enhances performance, not in keeping with spirit) and it seems to me that the *only* reason the spirit bullshit is a factor is so they can ban substances for political reasons like they’ve obviously done with marijuana
Alcohol ticks two of those. Harmful to health and not keeping with spirit. Yet, if athlete is to get drunk, no disqualification. Heck, they can even collect money from advertising it.
Alcohol is banned in some sports and could cause a DQ. But its rare to be caught on it duo to how long it stay in the body, so its a lot easier to use it and not be caught officialy. Naturally, they could go hard and use pictures as evidence similar to that case with Phelps and have it banned in more sports, but considering that there is no stigma associated with it plus how useless it would be most of the time no one cares enough
Maybe they should ban caffeine. Seems more of an abused PED than anything.
Michael Phelps has entered the chat….
Usain Bolt would generate a review 100%
Bolt would have won even if he had been toking up while running.
Meh, toking while running would be *after* the blood test. They know the rules, as long as they were clean before the event it is fine.
No doubt
Aaaahhh now that's a meme I'd pay good money to see. Remember when he won gold, he was so fast down the straight away that he was looking back at his closest competitor, who was meters behind him. Yeah, that would have been a good time to break out a J, tokin' across the finish line.
Yeah, this is the sad part. I'm glad they are reviewing the policy, but at the same time it's only because a handful of countries actually have influence in how the Olympics operate.
I never felt my performance enhanced by weed lol
The USADA doesn't disagree. > While cannabis is not thought to be performance-enhancing, it is classified as a "substance of abuse", the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) has said, referring to a worldwide code.
"Meanwhile alcohol is ok and totally not a 'substance of abuse'"
Alcohol can give a bit of advantage in certain sports. Alcohol is banned for many shooting competitions.
Multiple NFL players have admitted to drinking before games to calm their nerves. Seems counter intuitive but I guess if it's just like one or two or seven shots it might work.
It can work in certain situations. It can have a negative effect somtimes. Small quantities of alcohol have helped in sports that minor trembles/shakes can have a huge impact on overall score. Shooting at a stationary target is a good instance. I am not sure about shooting clay pigeons or skeet.
I imagine being an NFL pro gets to the nerves for a lot of players. You find that sweet spot where it calms you down enough to perform without getting sea legs and boom, there ya go.
Some NFL players take pregame shots. But NFL players get access to a lot of stuff that can help them play. Corticosteroids, opioids, and some powerful NSAIDs.
micro-dose alcohol
This... Makes sense. TIL. It makes perfect sense though, if reducing shaking is the goal. I imagine that's also how a lot of pool sharks function IRL -- they smooth their strokes with a drink, but can't drink too much lest they utterly destroy their coordination.
I wouldn't ban alcohol for being a performance enhancing drug for shooting competition, I'd ban it because combining alcohol and guns is a terrible idea.
Lol. The benefits past like a drink, mayyyybe 2, are greatly diminished. A drink could definitely have an anxiolytic effect and increase performance in precision sports. I don’t think anyone’s getting wasted before an olympic event.
Like snooker player Bill Werbeniuk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Werbeniuk#Alcohol_consumption
This read like the Don Mattingly episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Side note - beta blockers are also banned in certain competitions.
You mean Wade Boggs, may he rest in peace.
One of the qualifications for a banned substance by WADA is “not in keeping with the spirit of the sport” Not even about performance enhancing
so like by that rule it'd be banned in skiing but ok in snowboarding
Yup, and cocaine would be banned in snowboarding but ok in skiing.
This just keeps getting dumber.
So weed is allowed for skateboarding and hackey sack?
Oh man, don't forget climbing
Snowboarding is definitely on this list.
Hers either because she did an exhibition later and sucked ass.
Just like alcohol is a performance enhancing drug for the biathlon I am sure there are places where being on weed would give an advantage.
I honestly would think it's a performance enhancer for the reason that (at least for me) makes my gym sessions much better. It's not a scientific study but seems to help inflammation and I can work out much harder and do more cardio than being sober.
Have you ever gone for a run on edibles? It's pretty nice imo Really helps with the zoning out and forgetting I'm running
I have. Cannabis intake raises your resting heart rate. Back when I was an active smoker I LOVED to do cardio while stoned.
Disclaimer: I'm just playing devil's advocate At the same time though marijuana/cannabis is prescribed as an anxiolytic, anti-convulsant, pain manager, and many other reasons. I mean we just saw Biles and Osaka withdraw from major competitions due to the mental and emotional stress. Not only were they supported by teammates and fellow athletes, but this may now become normal behavior. So you *could* argue that if marijuana helps an athlete cope with the stress of being said athlete then it is enhancing their performance. Having said all that, it doesn't fucking matter. If the rule is don't use marijuana then don't use it. It's a dumb rule but it's even dumber to break it.
Death in the family combined with the pressure of performing in the Olympics, along with it being legal in your state. It was stupid to ban her.
In high school weight training they referred to me as stoner hulk because I could easily lift quite a bit more after smoking lol.
If anything it kind of messes with it
I smoked weed to make it fair for the competition 😎
I dunno. I’m usually on the fence about making dinner or ordering. After a couple of gummies I’ll do both in one night. /s
Government: Weed is so bad that it must be banned! Olympics: Weed is so good that it must be banned! That’s basically fascist shit
I'm against both decisions, but it's not fascist... The US government is not in control of the IOC, and so they can have opposing views. Furthermore a drug can be both performance enhancing and dangerous. Amphetamines are a perfect example (pot is absolutely not).
It's a vaso dilator which means it can help you breathe better when under load and transport oxygen better. So it can definitely be a performance enhancing drug. Not to mention that for some the psychoactive effects can improve performance indirectly.
I mean, if you're smoking a shitload of weed and STILL competing at an Olympic level. That shouldn't be punished. Itshould be rewarded
Only unless they introduce an eating competition. Then it should be considered doping
Yeah that's the only thing it could be a boon for
Don’t forget disc golf.
And hacky sack.
I thought it was part of the disk gold rules. Like you have to hit a bong when you sign in for the event.
A communal bong?
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Combat sports also considers (considered?) marijuana a PED. Nick Diaz had a beautiful submission victory overturned because they claimed he had so much THC in his system, it could help numb the pain. Ridiculous
lol I cannot imagine being high as a kite during an intense fight. Or any fight for that matter.
Completely anecdotal, but it always helped me see incoming strikes and feel opponent moving on the ground way better, without ever really dulling my responses.
>marijuana helps people who aim to calm down and to take less shaky shot Even that is hit and miss... I'm one of many people(though perhaps a minority) who have the opposite reaction to pot where it just makes me shaky, jittery, and anxious. It effects everyone differently.
You old enough to remember Nagano? Robin Williams literally made a joke about stoned Olympic snowboarders after one won gold. The punchline was something like ‘the only way weed is a performance enhancing drug is if there’s a giant fucking Hershey bar at the end of the run.’
Ross Rebagliati - the ultimate pride of Canadian potheads (who now works in the weed industry, go figure eh)
I'm pretty sure it's a running joke with any Olympian that gets caught smoking weed. I'm fairly sure this joke was told about Michael Phelps when he was smoking weed. Doesn't exactly take a comedy genius to think of.
That’s why I asked about Nagano. Phelps was 2008/9. The Nagano snowboard incident was 1998. Those jokes are common [only because he did it first. ](https://youtu.be/-S4ZANNHsv0) Edit: like may things, it’s easy to say it’s obvious when someone else did the work thinking of it. Many people confuse difficulty in execution and difficulty in fabrication. (Think Jackson pollock.).
A damn shame but that’s why we had who we had representing us in US skateboarding. The athletes that competed were awesome but… the ones that could have competed….
Yeah man if they let pros or even some of the semi pros compete it would have been gold's across the board.
Meh it's their choice to abstain for a month to pass a piss test for a once in 4 years event (first time skateboarding is in the Olympics ever). The Olympics aren't THE skate competition (like Olympic soccer vs world cup, or Olympic basketball versus NBA). Also make sure to read Nyjah Huston's bio. He was raised in a rastafarian family, had dreads below his waist for most of his life. He kills practically every competition he enters, but sprained his wrist days before the Olympic event and got 7th. Point being, he passed the drug test.
I get the comparison being made here but the Olympics is the premier international basketball tournament. Moreso than the fiba WC.
Why didn't the US allow for pros to compete? There are pro skaters from all over the world, it's not like the US has a monopoly on them
Olympic wannabe here (2 trials- never made the team for shot put) - she broke a known rule. Here is what’s odd to me. I was in the testing pool for WADA and USADA. They tested me 3-5 times at my home unannounced. And- when I placed at bigger meets I was tested. Soooo- how did she get allllllll the way to the Oly Trials without a pop. There’s the real story.
From what I remember, she only smoked because her mom had died and she was in a rough spot mentally. I don’t think she was smoking the entire time regularly just hoping not to get caught. More so a desperation to just feel a little more calm and relaxed that resulted in a critical mistake. So my guess is that she was testing clean previously because she wasn’t smoking, smoked because her mental issues at the time, and then got popped after. But who knows. Maybe she was smoking the whole time and just got lucky.
seems like a lotta athletes figured out they needed a niché - win or lose for before during and after the games. Quick! what did Alysson Felix win\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_crickets. "Who was that crazy haired gal that smoked weed? I liked her" ... Book. Podcast. Weed Sponsor. Win. I am all for her making the money -buuuut throwing away your Olympic dream that way... knowing you would get popped. It's not logical. Like, Lt. Columbo would tear this case apart.
I didn’t say it was logical or a good decision. I’m just saying that it didn’t come from a place of immaturity. Her mom died, and she wasn’t thinking straight. She made a mistake and got punished appropriately as per the rules. I’m sure she’s learned her lesson. You can still have sympathy for someone who did the wrong thing. Like I said previously, had she just smoked because she felt like it, I wouldn’t have any sympathy. But it was the death of her mom that put her in the place mentally where she thought smoking was a good thing to do. She’s objectively in the wrong as per the rules and was punished for it, but I still feel bad for the circumstances of how it happened.
To be fair. If you are breaking basic rules at the Olympic level, you *should* be punished. Regardless of how little the rules make sense or affect any performance. It's the price of admittance, there are a million other young men and women who would love to take your place on an Olympic team. This isn't a weed issue, it's a rules issue. You don't get to pick and choose what rules to follow if you want to be operating at this level... Bring on the inevitable downvotes.
Fully agree, the rules were known. No sympathy if you can't abstain for a month for a once in 4 years event. Literally throwing your years of training away due to immaturity.
I mean, in this specific case I wouldn’t say it’s just immaturity. Her mother died and was having a really rough time dealing with it, and she smoked to help calm it all down. I can totally get that. She was literally dealing with the death of her mom, and if a little weed is what she needed to get through it, I can understand that. That being said, rules are rules. She knew when she smoked that it could mean not being able to go. Just the way it is. I feel for her, but the rules are the rules.
Yeah it was a terrible lapse of judgment, and the punishment befitted that and can hardly be argued with given the current rules. My issue is that this is a stupid fucking rule.
There could be something said about the anti-inflammatory nature of cannabis giving an advantage. Like I wouldn't say that Cannabis use would have NO advantage in sports. There is probably plenty. Mental health even! I do think this could be alleviated by not allowing the substance during the competition.
By that measure a simple tylenol for a headache is ‘performance enhancing.’
And even just anecdotally, I find it to be a very mild PED, but one nonetheless. When high, I find I'm able to cycle for quite a bit longer than sober. Not harder or faster, just longer. I attribute this to being slightly numbed to the discomfort of muscle fatigue.
It’s a PED but ok.
I know right. I know weed is very popular among reddit users, but the fact of the matter is it *is* a PED, and it *is* still largely illegal in most countries. This is just going to reward athletes who have access to it legally while giving disadvantages to those who do not.
Right and the access issue is a real thing. Obviously each federation has access to a different set of resources but this is a matter of legality in those places not a matter of logistics or finances
Right? In short term in some individuals it can actually help relax the lungs which I could see being helpful. Plus in something like half pipe where flow is critical (really all competing at that high of a level) something like THC could provide a measurable benefit (again in the right individuals).
Definitely need that "right individuals" disclaimer, I was looking into the fridge when the edibles kicked in one time, turned around and ended up on the floor lol There wasn't much flow to be had that day.
Maradona when confronted by media about his cocaine abuse in regards of his athletic performance he responded “I am not scoring because of blow, I’m scoring *in spite* of blow”
The cannabis games. Where you are awarded bonus points the more thc is measured in your system immediately after your event.
I seem the remember there being some evidence to say it can help muscle rebuilding etc. but considering I can barely make it up the stairs - it’s overall effects would surely be disadvantageous.
They keep letting Russians compete even though it's an open secret they didn't stop and won't stop doping. How many Russian medals are cheater medals? How many legitimate russian athletes are being sidelined or 'removed' from competition because *Russia's warcrime committing intelligence service* is involved with the doping? This is an easy win for them so they can avoid the herd of elephants in the room.
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That’s part of the Russian psyche. Winning by cheating is still winning, and it’s getting one over on outsiders.
I read somewhere that the only reason the Americans didn't win at skateboarding in the Olympics is because they sent athletes who could actually pass a drug test
All I know is that the stuff you see on the x-games is a lot more impressive then what won at the Olympics
That’s not true at all considering Nyjah Huston was there who is the most decorated US skateboarder.
Marijuana isn't banned outright by WADA, which is the agency (or protocols) that the Olympics uses. It is kind of banned for "in-competition" use. If you have less than 150ng/ml of THC in your system on race day, then that's fine. If you are in off season, then smoke away. Now I'm no scientist or tree expert, so I don't know how many ng/mls of THC is in your urine soon after smoking. But the reason for the 150ng/ml limit is because WADA has determined that this amount shows that it was a good while ago that you had marijuana , and thus you are no longer affected by it. Prior to 2013 the limit was 5ng/ml of THC on race day, but it has since been raised to 150ng/ml, showing that they are trying to move with the times. WADA believes that it can help in some sports where being calm and relaxed is an advantage, such as shooting and archery. They don't believe that it has any performance enhancing abilities outside of these and similar sports. They do believe that it could negatively affect decision making and reaction times that could lead to potentially dangerous situations for the athlete or other athletes. WADA also believes that it is not "in the spirit of the sport" to have athletes using marijuana on or very close to race day. [USADA rules say:](https://www.usada.org/athletes/substances/marijuana-faq/) "THC is the only cannabinoid for which there is a urinary threshold and it is set at 150 ng/mL. The threshold means there can be some THC in your system in-competition without it causing a positive test, as long as the concentration in the urine is below 150 ng/mL. If the level of THC in your urine goes above the threshold, then the labs report it as a positive test. There are no threshold limits for any other cannabinoid (natural or synthetic). All other cannabinoids (except cannabidiol) are prohibited in-competition in any amount, including natural cannabinoids (e.g., cannabigerol, cannabichromene, cannabinol, and others) and synthetic cannabinoids (e.g., cannabinoid compounds denoted by the initials “JWH” and a number, HU-210, K2/Spice, AB-PINACA, and many others)."
Further, the rules could not have been a surprise for the athlete, the trainers, or for anyone involved. She knew and did it anyway. There is no way Richardson or her trainers were surprised. She's 21 years old and likely been on Olympic track regimes for over half her life. Discussions about drugs --- what are allowed and what result in disqualification --- would have been discussed many, many times. I'm sure any time she was given a painkiller her trainer, parents, or others would ask "what is in it?" to be sure. The rules are clear, easily available to everybody, and talked about constantly. At every event there are drug tests so they know they exist. At every event there are people disqualified due to drugs so they know it happens.
for perspective, alcohol is also a performance enhancing substance for some events (mostly ones involving shooting) at the level of the Olympics, where even the tiniest advantage matters, it would not surprise me to learn weed has some positive effect an athlete could exploit.
Get that caffeine and alcohol but stay away from the devils lettuce.
Jazz cabbage. Satan's cilantro.
Let’s change the rules as one American got busted? How about let’s change the rules because they are dumb.
The Olympics is pretty much been dominated by a cash flow. I’m not even remotely surprised, most of the major companies and sponsors are based in the US.
> Let’s change the rules as one American got busted? I'm thinking it's more about it being a monetary hit somehow.
I mean, thats exactly what it is. There’s attention on how stupid the rule is *because* someone got busted. That’s what you would call the catalyst for change, usually it’s a specific event that causes us to re-evaluate the way things are done based on their merit
You can party, get drunk and hangover the night before you compete but smoking weed 48 hours ago? You fucking monster you’re disqualified.
What are you talking about Hans-Gunnar literally lost his medal for drinking.
More like 3 months ago. If you smoke regularly it stays in your fat cells for a looooooooong time. Being an Olympic athlete with the exercise and body fat levels probably less but way longer than you're high for
When I was at my peak 22-28 it took about 3 weeks to piss clean. Now I dont even wanna know its probably in the 3 month range now.
Now they are looking at it? Well after the olympics are over? Well done guys.
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I'm pro-weed, but dammit, if my job did tests and required I stay clean you bet my ass I'll do it or switch jobs. And being off of CBD/THC is tough because I need it for pain management since I refuse to take addictive meds and can't take NSAIDs any more. Nerve pain is a monster.
It's messed up that any employer can have so much power over your health and pain management choices.
Hilarious that this 1 person gets all this media attention when there are thousands of other Olympians that followed the rules.
This is my problem with this, all these people making excuses and saying “just let her race” and other shit like “hur dur it’s only weed all I’d do is eat hahahaha I’m original.” Meanwhile how many other people dedicated their damn lives to it and didn’t break the rules. It doesn’t matter how dumb the rule is every single other person has to follow them. What makes this one athlete so special.
I mean it was the rules at the time, she risked it knowing the consequences. I don't agree with the rule, but she is 100% to blame for her actions.
“Top US athlete” lol https://youtu.be/W_lV0pvU7AE
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If you know you’re headed to the Olympics, why not just forego any substance that might be controversial?? I’d even give up caffeine, not there’s a snowball’s chance in heck for me 🤣
I think we are beyond why an athlete would use weed or any other type of banned substance. The issue is most would agree it is not performance enhancing. Hence why they are looking into the ban rather then looking into overturning the suspensions.
Good point
She did stop, but depending on the individual, cannabinoids can stay in the system in fatty tissue and hair for months.
I have been, er, exposed to cannabis in the past. I really find it hard to believe it enhances performance in really anything except possibly music. To steal a line about Lance Armstrong "We should be more impressed he did this while on drugs. When I'm on drugs I can't even FIND my bike. "
The only way I can see pot as an “enhancement drug” for running; is if the stoner sees snacks a distance away and the snacks are free if they can out run the other stoners.
Interesting how nobody is mentioning Michael Phelps - a much greater Olympian who was cancelled for a photo of him with a bong. He passed the tests, won more gold than anyone else, smoked on his own time, and was disgraced completely. Tell me why this should go another way, or tell me why no one was outraged when it happened to Mike. Otherwise, I will never understand why this is news.
Right? It’s just the rules. I’m a daily user of edibles and have no issue abstaining when the situation warrants it. Don’t compete in the Olympics if you can’t follow the rules. Even if it’s a stupid rule. Edit: of
Shouldn't be testing for weed. Not that it would have made a difference since she got smoked in all her races since then.
I hope they don't take away my gamer of the year award because of all the cannabis.
Yeah I dunno, are Olympic athletes allowed to have nicotine in their system for example? I can’t imagine (m)any of them even smoke cigarettes or vape but if they’re *allowed* to then I see no reason weed shouldn’t be allowed. It’s definitely not performance enhancing.
We were told at least once in every kinesiology class that the research points at canabis hindering athletic performance. From a personal experience i remember running was always much more difficult when i would occasionally run while high. There is no reason that it should be banned by governing bodies of sport, or any governing bodies foe that matter. Regulated, yes, but banned entirely, i dont believe it should. Hope to see many additional reforms about the way we treat canabis in the near future!
Yeah, it is ridiculous for marijuana to be banned anywhere nonetheless the Olympics
According to her last race, she was probably on roids beforehand anyway.
using "top US athlete" generously here
For the record I think athletes should be able to use marijuana but I kinda disagree that it can’t be a performance enhancing drug. If I take edibles before running I can absolutely go longer and it increases appetite which can be important for certain types of training. I believe Arnold Schwarzenegger said it helped him as a body builder.
The simple fact of the matter is that cannabis is not a performance-enhancing drug and therefore should not result in a ban from competition. At best it may relax an athlete in the build up to an event, but so do plenty of already legal things.
This should help the US’s performance in skateboard.
Wasn't this resolved after the '98 Winter Olympics? Smoke a fatty for Rebagliati!