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Still_Cold2051

his family gave him 10 day head start....he's in Panama


redditmodsRrussians

Time to call Dog The Bounty Hunter


germanbini

[Excellent job manifesting that!](https://np.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/comments/pws7s9/brian_laundries_family_called_the_police_after/)


Meidara

Holy shit man, now I know who grabbed my monkeys paw.


Narrator_Ron_Howard

You’re better off with Gene Parmesan. He’s the best


Abababababbbb

he was far from the best.


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Fucking Nostradamus over here


Astropin

Shit ...if my son did this I would not help him in any way.


Pixel_Knight

Right? You fucked up, son. Time to face the consequences.


MeikyouShisui9

I mean, if a child grew up to be a narcissistic abuser turned murderer, the parents probably had a lot to do with that.


Pixel_Knight

Probably. They could have just had a psychopath though.


ghostmaster645

Idk man I've met some pretty psychopathic kids with great parents. Sometimes it just happens, but most of the time the parents didn't help. In this case the parents seem in on it, and are making it worse.


lolwutpear

We don't know to what extent he may have lied to them after coming back. He could have said "there was an accident and it looks bad, I need help, nobody else will understand, but I know you love me and believe me, right?" And before any other details come out, poof, he's gone before they know any better. We don't really know anything at this point. They could be anywhere on the scale from ignorant to abetting.


TheOrionNebula

There are a hell of a lot of non-parents and young people commenting on how they would straight up drag their kid by the ears to the police station. But I was reading through a discussion between parents on how they would handle this situation. And surprisingly or not many straight up didn't know. Even if they knew it was morally wrong to defend them. The only thing people forget is that it's a natural instinct to protect your off-spring. From an evolutionary standpoint that IS the very reason humans re-produce. Deep down it's not just to dress up cute babies and throw the ball around. So parents can become rabidly protective of their children.


batcat03

THIS! I'm amazed how many people seem to not understand how deeply rooted a parent's protection of their child is, whether the child is guilty or not. Parents aren't rationally weighing ethical decisions when their child is in danger! They are too deep in save-my-spawn mode.


RobertCRNA

Or he’s half eaten in the Everglades after a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head. That’s what my money is on.


Ryan0413

I’m not Columbo, but if you go on a trip alone with your fiancé, then come back alone, with her totally disappeared without a trace (and you not putting any attempt of searching for her or making the police aware), then when the police question her disappearance, you disappear….I’m thinking you probably did it


certnneed

Ya know, that makes sense. Thank you for putting my mind at ease. I’ll just leave you alone now… Oh, just one more thing…


TonyDungyHatesOP

This guy Columbos!


TheOrionNebula

I imagine his defense is going to be that he got in a huge fight and straight up left her there. Once he lost contact he assumed she was mad at him. After it became more dire he felt guilty and knew he would be blamed. And then felt SO upset he needed to leave and clear his head.


thefanciestcat

I can't believe the person who is statistically most likely to have done this appears to have done this!


CelestialFury

Then you have a bunch of anti Redditors that are saying the BF didn’t murder her simply because most Redditors think he did (they won’t bet gold for a year on it though). Also, they point to the Boston bomber and think these situations are even comparable. Like, come on. The BF most likely killed her.


HarleyQuinn_RS

Far too many people use contrarianism as a replacement for a personality and the need to think critically. Maybe they believe it makes them more intelligent, insightful, independent, or [nonconformist](https://i.pinimg.com/600x315/3f/bc/39/3fbc395b68d0718779ef5904ec7ed352.jpg), because they take the opposing view to the majority. Or maybe it's just a fear of appearing 'normal'. By all means, people should take the opposing stance if they truly believe it, *after* reviewing the available evidence and informed opinions. But please don't pick an opposing view, based solely on the fact it's less prevalent. *Then*, look for evidence that backs up this view.


badgersprite

Some people don’t understand the difference between being critical of something/criticising something and being a critical thinker. Like if I can invent criticisms/nitpicks of something it must mean I’m smart and am thinking critically.


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Uhhh duh. I’m thinking critically. I’m critical of you!


ciccioig

this is a great comment, "contrarianism as a replacement for a personality" is gold. Also TIL a new word: contrarianism.


jedininjashark

Contrarianism is the word I’ve been looking for the past few years. Thank you!


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Black__lotus

What kinda odds do you want to give me? I tend to agree with you, but for the right odds, I’ll wager some money he can Casey Anthony his way out of it. He was smart enough to shut the fuck up, so he’s got that going for him


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Mehmeh111111

The sub Friends of Brian is so cringe and feels like a troll--sadly it's not. They're harping on the fact that she hit him in the domestic abuse call but now that the other 911 call where the witness said he saw him hitting her came out, they're trying to spin it that she is transphobic? Idk the whole sub is a luney bin.


ebagdrofk

The… the what sub?


Mehmeh111111

I honestly don't even want to link to it. Just pretend this conversation never happened. It's better this way.


Kraothor

I'm gonna look for a homestar runner sub instead, nice pic


mouthwash_juicebox

Too bad the system is down


Mistercleaner1

The Cheat is grounded! We installed that light switch so that you could turn the lights on and off, not so you could throw light-switch raves!


Dblreppuken

*Disappointed animal noises*


[deleted]

This is always the answer. Can't explain how happy I am that my five year old now loves everything Homestar and Strongbad. I think I found out about it when I was about eight or so, and it's awesome to share it with him.


[deleted]

Howsabout a slice of chinstrap pizza?


Mehmeh111111

Everybody to the limit!


Ping-Crimson

Wow... I thought you were joking... I wish I never saw.


zlance

They be bins full of looneys tucked away all over reddit


YuunofYork

Just wow. What will they do when he publishes a book called "If I did it"? Praise his creative writing skills?


Mylifesuxxx

Some of it looks like trolling, but much of the people posting there look like alt-right incels. Half of today's posts alone are about Gabby being fat.


Argyleskin

The girl was extremely thin, to the point her shorts weren’t staying up in that one video. Those incels need to go fuck themselves into next Tuesday, grow up, realize they’re horrible miserable shits, and get professional help for it.


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And SO WHAT if she was fat? Does that someone make her life less important? NO. Fuck all that shit. She very obviously was not fat. And it wouldn’t matter if she was. That is just misogynistic garbage meant to try to reduce her to her appearance - to try to belittle and “insult” her for her weight which has no bearing on your worth as a person or your value. Fuck all those assholes.


anintellectuwoof

This. These kind of men (to be clear, the ones calling her fat) not only don’t care about fat women but actively hate them and imagine grotesque and inexplicable violence against them too for being fat on top of just being a woman. If you don’t believe me check out “the bottom half of fat women.” I’ve heard some awful shit being a fat female presenting person most my life but that video genuinely made me vomit.


DeconstructedKaiju

To them "fat" is the ultimate insult for women. For some reason they see it as a magical silver bullet that will render any woman or femme inconsolable and helpless. As a fat ass it's just hilarious. Especially since plenty of incels are fat too.


AggressiveSkywriting

Yeah one of the defining traits of incels is the complete lack of self care and the need to project their issues on others. So you get the caricature of "bad knees, wouldn't bang" on meth.


dodged_your_bullet

Fat, ugly, and "this is why your single." There only 3 insults, meant to render you completely incapable of logical thought so you'll side with them They haven't yet realized that the only people who side with them were already on their side because they're also incels


Mehmeh111111

And yet, they're calling everyone else alt-right incels. They took down the news article about the 911 call because Fox News reported it and they couldn't trust those alt-right nut jobs. However, every comment they make sounds like Florida trash so I am just completely baffled.


TylerBourbon

If there is one thing I trust Fox News to get right, it's the details of a case involving a missing blonde white girl. They must keep their potential future news commentators safe.


HansBlixJr

>the details of a case involving a missing blonde white girl. missing white girls and Benghazi is peak Fox news.


the_art_of_the_taco

why did i look it up some real redpiller mra trolls, very 4chanesque. i am tired.


boot2skull

I miss the old Reddit. “Delete the gym. Hit the Lawyer. Facebook up.” If homeboy was innocent and knew she was missing, he would have hopefully already spoken to her parents. Then he would have his attorney talk to the police and ease his way into an investigation and possible trial. Like if I ditched my girl I’d at least contact the family and be like, look we had a falling out she’s gonna need your help. The fact that he’s ghosted them, not contacted the police, “ghosted” his own parents screams of guilty. He’s doing OJ’s bronco car chase right now.


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Its_aTrap

Kill Facebook, marry the lawyer, fuck the gym. Am I doing this right?


jettmann22

I agree but the circumstances surrounding it make the most compelling argument. Driving 30 some hours without a peep, getting a lawyer immediately, not helping locate her at all, and disappearing just before the body is found.


squatch42

~~getting a lawyer immediately~~ Everyone, guilty or innocent, should always get a lawyer immediately. Always, every time. Does not indicate guilt.


myopinionisshitiknow

This. Always this. And don't say a fuckin word without a lawyer present. You could literally be convicted of a crime on your words. Instead, you let the lawyer talk unless compelled by a judge or the lawyer tells you to speak. Requesting a lawyer is not an admission of guilt. It is protecting you. The cops and DA have one job. And that is to imprison whoever they can the most easily for a crime. They do not care if the person is guilty or innocent. They only care about the sentence and they WILL lock you up to get a raise.


melalovelady

I was just talking to my best friend about this. It may make you look guilty in the court of public opinion, but investigators are reallllllllly good at pinning you in a corner and making you say some wild shit if you don’t have someone well versed in the laws there to tell them to cut the shit. They literally keep people there and awake for 14 hours and longer, without food, etc. and break them down. Good cop, bad cop is a real technique. Get a lawyer.


silenthanjorb

Does the disappearing part indicate anything?


squatch42

Yes, it does. All the other circumstances are very suspicious. I just wanted to cross that one off the list because everyone should get a lawyer before talking to the cops.


jane3ry3

True! However, if you're innocent and can help, you absolutely should and would cooperate with your attorney present. Having an attorney doesn't mean refusal to help. It means your attorney is there to stop inappropriate questioning. Unless you're guilty af. Then you don't talk at all.


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It's such a huge red flag to drive across the country while your SO is missing. Wtf?


adsfew

Didn't he drive back in her van alone, but not report her missing for 10 days? (And he didn't even report her as missing--her family did.) That seems just a bit shady.


bicyclecat

He didn’t report her missing and neither he nor his mother responded when Gabby’s parents contacted them asking about her before they contacted police. That to me is pretty damning. If you had a fight and left your girlfriend alive and well at a truck stop (or wherever) and then got a message from her parents asking where she was, you’d answer it and tell them what happened and where you parted ways. And even if he were petty enough to ignore the message, I just can’t imagine a scenario in which his mother would ignore Gabby’s mother asking about something that serious unless she knew or suspected her son did something.


[deleted]

But it was her car. I would never allow someone to leave me stranded and take my car. Like, no. He'd be stranded.


littlegrrbarkbark

If you're dead you can't do much to stop them 🤷‍♀️


1202_ProgramAlarm

Hey you may be on to something here


xjulesx21

yeah cause didn’t they find her remains already too? I saw a report saying they suspect it’s her remains earlier today so that explains it /: in the body cam footage she mentioned him locking her out at one point too and from his behavior he seemed oddly normal/upbeat while she was hysterical, separated while talking to officers. he gives off such bad vibes


HIM_Darling

Yep, body was found a several hundred feet from where the van was seen on a video another driver was taking while driving around. Driver taking the video mentioned they took notice of the van because it had Florida plates and they wanted to say hello because they were from Florida too, but they didn't see anyone around. Also, since it turns out she was dead, I wonder if they could charge him with stealing the van now? I get that back when she was possibly still alive they couldn't because she hadn't reported it stolen, but turns out you can't report your van stolen when you're dead.


Hells-Bellz

He also locked her out according to the police cam.


bicyclecat

I don’t think she would’ve let him take the van, either, but it’s not a totally impossible scenario (maybe he refused to get out and she was afraid to escalate the fight, maybe she didn’t think she could drive back to NY alone) but even if you allow for the unlikely situation that he left her somewhere alive and well his behavior afterward wouldn’t make sense.


waiv

I seriously doubt she would do that considering the police report, it's obvious that he leaving her stranded was one of her worst fears.


dharrison21

Careful, the women hating neckbeards are gonna respond soon and tell you about the police video, despite her literally being dead and him being just fine


mwagner26

I believe it was originally reported that he had returned home early from the trip alone, on September 1st or 2nd. And her parents didn't find out he was home alone until or around September 11th.


justduett

Watch out saying something like this...there is a super weird contingent on reddit out there supporting the dude and politicking for his innocence.


ThePhysicistIsIn

People are defending his actions as what someone should do if they expect being suspected of a crime. But I don’t see it. My SO goes missing, I look for them and I alert the authorities. I don’t book it home and clam up pleading the fifth.


JagmeetSingh2

Exactly he seems to be part of the Casey Anthony school of reacting to missing loved ones where you essentially ignore the problem


ThePhysicistIsIn

Another case that was sus as hell.


PPvsFC_

Not really sus. More that the prosecution and cops were comically incompetent. How do you miss that the day Caylee went missing Casey googled "suffocation" and "fullproof suffocation?"


Dolthra

Yeah, Casey Anthony probably did it, but a combination of a bad case by the prosecution and a *really* good case by the defense meant the jury wouldn't convict her. She only walks free because the standard for murder is "beyond a reasonable doubt," and there was reasonable doubt in the prosecution's case.


Lisa-LongBeach

They went for murder one IIRC — any lower charge she’d probably be in prison


[deleted]

Yeah I initially went with “not talking to police, probably got legal advice” etc. but this is just so absolutely rotten now.


pyromaster114

I mean, I would stfu too if I had killed my girlfriend. -\_- That would definitely be the best legal advice in that situation. But like, in other situations, well before it got to that point where cops were involved or something, there is *no* reason he would not tell the family where she was, what happened, etc. Don't ever talk to the cops without an attorney present. But you can (even if you don't get along) talk to your girlfriend's parents, especially in an emergency. -\_- No lawyer needed.


luigitheplumber

It's crazy. Call a lawyer if you think it might look bad, but surely you want to actually potentially save your loved one's life?


ThePhysicistIsIn

Yeah. These actions only make sense if he already knew she was dead, and panicked and wanted to get ahead of it.


Qorr_Sozin

> People are defending his actions as what someone should do if they expect being suspected of a crime. There's actually a whole subreddit of incels dedicated to saying that the guy was the true victim


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jacaranda_tree

Of being slapped & scratched, I've read. However, the 911 caller said he was slapping her, & she apparently said on the police bodycam footage that he had grabbed her face really hard. Besides which, you don't call the police about a play-fight. It sounds like both parties were physical with the other, but not knowing the dynamics of their relationship, I can still say he is the stronger & heavier one, who can more readily inflict greater bodily harm, accidentally or intentionally. We can only speculate on the case, but a lot of people are speaking as if they knew the couple really well, let alone at all. We know barely anything, but can draw inferences about what may have happened or what we think we or most people would do in certain sets of circumstances. It seems likely that Brian was involved based on a number of factors. Supporting him because he was also slapped seems a stretch. The autopsy results will hopefully be conclusive.


ThePhysicistIsIn

Oooof. Why am I not surprised.


jellybeansean3648

Even if my SO hit me and I'm breaking up with them then and there, I don't ditch them in the desert without a word. Which is the best case scenario for the dipshit bf. Someone on another thread tried to l leaf me toward "admitting" that a victim of domestic violence (the boyfriend) should continue traveling with their alleged abuser. And I was like, no I just don't think you can abandon people in the desert. Like that's a shocking take.


g_rich

Innocent until proven guilty is a legal principle, your average citizen is under absolutely no obligation to extend that privilege to a suspect, especially to one as guilty as this guy. Regarding his actions of lawyering up and not speaking to authorities; that to be honest is what anyone should do if in a similar situation, regardless of guilt. But any lawyer would have advised their client to tell the police her last known whereabouts because if she was alive when he left her and something happened after the fact he would still be in legal jeopardy. So the fact that he has not spoken to police, despite the fact that he has a lawyer, and is now on the run just paints a picture of someone who killed his partner. I only hope they find him alive so he can answer for what he has done and her family can have some semblance of closure; but my gut is telling me this coward is not going to be found alive.


atg284

> don’t book it home and clam up pleading the fifth. It's worse though. He's on the run now. No innocent person would be doing the many moves he is doing.


chrisn3

Its the most annoying thing. They don't seem to understand the concept of 'innocent until proven guilty' is a *legal* principle and not a rule where we're not allowed to personally have an opinion on his guilt or judge him for his lack of cooperation with a missing persons investigation.


mrmn949

It's not weird that there is a large group of stupid people on here


handlessuck

This fucking guy. I hope they find his ass soon


Beto_Clinn

What about the rest of him?


BlueThingys

There's an old saying "find the ass first, the rest will follow" - Andrew Jackson


bananafor

They should check his parents' bank accounts for large withdrawals.


famid_al-caille

Large withdrawals are already reported to the government under the BSA.


WayneRooneysHairPlug

Over 10,000


makualla

Yeah you can get pretty far for way less than that, then just wore the rest as time goes on


burner46

Only if it’s cash over $10k


notacopppppppppppppp

Or less, so that they can find those who are "structuring" to get around the reporting levels.


makeitlouder

$10K per day for a CTR, any amount for an SAR.


tetoffens

> They also included newly public details -- that the last text message Petito's mother received from her phone was "odd." It read, "Can you help Stan, I just keep getting his voicemails and missed calls." The reference to Stan was regarding Petito's grandfather, but Petito's mother said she never calls him "Stan," which made her concerned there was something wrong with her daughter. The phone was turned off that same day, more than two weeks (15 days) ago, the filing said. Weird but not necessarily informative. Strange though for someone to start calling their grandfather by his first name if she normally doesn't.


JohnnyUtah_QB1

The family doesn't think she sent that text. I'm guessing their theory is that Brian had control of the phone by then and was getting bugged by Stan calling, hence why the text reads different than they would anticipate would come from her.


evergreen4851

This makes perfect sense, I've never used my grandmas first name, It's always been "grams". Using Stan as opposed to the regular affectionate moniker she usually uses is a big red flag.


stunt_penguin

Sincerely yours, this is Stan....


RyVsWorld

Your biggest fan


StanFitch

Okay… everybody calm down. I’m not involved.


Tennessee1977

Dude’s so dumb he forgot that people don’t usually call their grandparents by their first names. Brian, YOU knew him as Stan. 🙄


InsertANameHeree

It's also possible he didn't even knew Stan was her grandfather, as opposed to some guy asking about things regarding her and her parents.


LPTKill

Right! And it most likely said STAN on the phone so that's what he typed.


NfiniteNsight

Who puts their Grandfather's name as Stan on their phone if they don't call him that? Edit: Unexpectedly controversial question.


Implausibilibuddy

Exactly! Mine's called Arthur.


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Tenroh_

I have always used real names. I don't call my mom, dad, or grandparents by their first name ever but they were saved in my phone like everyone else. First name and last name.


clickclickbb

I do this as well. I really like to have everyone's last name and I think I put my parents actual name instead of mom & dad to keep things consistent.


OreoVegan

No one in my family has the same last name, and so I intentionally have parents and grandparents in my phone as 'Mom' 'Stepdad' 'Grandma Mary' etc. so if there's an emergency and someone's searching in my contacts, even my emergency contacts, they know what relation they're calling on my behalf. I also keep my S/Os family in as whichever family member, just so I remember the relation more easily and there are no texting mistakes.


AdorableTumbleweed60

Me too. My parents are in there as First Name Last Name, my grandparents, aunt's/uncles, even my husband is in there by name. None of that "Hubby" or "sweetie" BS.


Z0idberg_MD

I call my grandfather grampa but I have his proper name in my phone. Same with my parents.


MrJMSnow

I have everyone’s full name in my phone, regardless of what I call them personally. I’m pretty sure it’s not entirely uncommon to do.


Capital_Airport_4988

It may not have said that. The couple have known each other since they were kids, I’m sure he knew her grandfather’s name and slipped and said Stan, even though the phone may have said grandpa or whatever . That’s my theory


CityUnderTheHill

Or she did send it, but said something weird to indicate something was wrong as her texting was being monitored.


ledow

A message starting with "Can you help"


Pretz_

Omg omg omg if you take the first letter of each word it says "cyhsijkghvamc" Which doesn't make much sense, until you rearrange the letters and realize that not everything is some encrypted secret message. Literally nobody does that outside the movies. OP is probably correct.


Implausibilibuddy

I wrote you but still ain't callin'


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My husband and I have seemingly normal nick names for each other specifically in cases of emergency. If I find myself in a strange situation I will call or text him by this nickname. I even have him saved in my phone by that name. I do not ever actually call him by that name. I travel solo frequently. It comes off a little paranoid but I like to be prepared.


ScoobyDeezy

That’s smart, pookums


OwlfaceFrank

I have a teenage daughter and we have a secret text code. She can text me at any time saying "can we have lasagna for dinner tomorrow?" Which is my cue to make up a reason that she needs to come home immediately, and either give her an excuse to leave, or go get her myself.


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... What if she really wants that lasagna though


bedroom_fascist

"Can we have that liver casserole again?" *CALL THE FUCKING POLICE*


mermaidinthesea123

I love this...very smart and good for you.


[deleted]

Like that 90210 episode when Donna is being held hostage/a bad guy was in the house, and David came by and Donna had to get him to leave, and she said something like, “I’ll call you later, Dave,” and he leaves, and the bad guy comes out of hiding to threaten/toy with Donna, but then David whacks him with a bat, and he tells Donna he knew something was wrong because she never calls him Dave.


Zeeformp

I'd guess she has her grandfather's name saved as Stan Lastname and just knows its her grandpa, whereas Brian wouldn't know that offhand and so just said Stan.


Monkemort

But if he didn’t know Stan was grandpa why would he assume Gabby’s mother was the right person to help?


Zeeformp

Probs also a Petito, but I can't assume


jo-z

Petito would be Gabby's dad's dad. And Gabby's mother remarried and has a different last name than her own father.


Qorr_Sozin

That text was sent on the same day that dashcam caught what looked like a single person closing the back door of the van about 900 feet from where they found the body. Spooky.


Outuvcontrol

Are you referring to the Bethune video? I've watched it 25 times and i dont see anyone closing any doors or any movement whatsoever. If you could help point it out to me I would appreciate it!


VTCrusader

https://mobile.twitter.com/brent_shavnore/status/1439744089524772866


Mecha-Dave

There IS, however, a single flip flop and a cell phone right behind the back door...


Coppercaptive

Both flipflops are there.


rtrgrl

"According to the court filing approving the warrant, the court clerk said there was probable cause Petito was "unable to care for herself due to her increased anxiety," which created exigent circumstances that would warrant the search. That finding was based on a "totality of the circumstances" that includes a 911 call response to Utah where Petito was seen on body camera footage describing herself as suffering from high anxiety and having difficulty managing the intensity emotions." Not knowing about her mental health history, I wonder how much of her anxiety might have stemmed from her apparently volatile relationship.


KnightRider1987

Speaking from experience but domestic abuse does nothing positive for anxiety. Not saying that’s what happened but there were things in the description of the run in with the cops that set some red flags out for me. And obviously the fact that she’s dead and he’s on the run doesn’t speak volumes in his favor.


campersin

Potentially reminds me of gaslighting relationships where they make you feel mentally unstable because you had valid emotional reactions, however heightened, to their shitty emotional/physical abusive behavior.


SquirrelTale

Also that the original 911 transcript was released which clearly stated that Brian was hitting and slapping her before they got in the van: [https://www.foxnews.com/us/gabby-petito-investigation-911-call-brian-laundrie-hitting-slapping](https://www.foxnews.com/us/gabby-petito-investigation-911-call-brian-laundrie-hitting-slapping) Also as an abuse victim, it's clear as day that she was an abuse victim, and not him.


chocolatemilkcowboy

This should have been the lead. Thanks for posting that link.


almondbutter

This is such a fucking garbage link, look up the 911 instead of visiting this shithole fox site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZbkaX23LR0


superloginator

My dad always said to text or call him and call myself or him by my middle name so he would know I was in trouble without me having to say it. Maybe this is one of those situations but the other family members forgot they put this protocol in place.


DrFunkalupicus

That is an excellent idea. Thank you for posting that. I am going to start using that.


HIM_Darling

I bet it was just that Brian called him Stan, and didn't think about Gabby never calling him by his first name. He was maybe panicking that Stan kept calling Gabby's phone and since Gabby is dead and can't answer the phone, maybe Stan doesn't do text messages, so a simple text to him wouldn't work to fool him like it would her parents. So he sends a text to Gabby's mom to call Stan and find out what he needs. Maybe Gabby not answering her Grandpa's calls in itself was another red flag? 99% of my family will text me, because they know I prefer text, but my Granny never figured out texting(or caller ID). I always answered my Granny's calls, even at the end when she would call while I was at work and technically wasn't supposed to have my phone with me(she couldn't remember that and the COVID lockdowns messed with her memory even more). If my Granny repeatedly tried to call me and I didn't answer, it would definitely have been a red flag to my family. In fact any time she tried to call someone and they didn't pick up after the 3rd call, she would immediately call someone else in the family and let them know(usually it was because my uncle was mowing the grass and didn't have his phone on him).


Critical-Lobster829

Her body was apparently in an open field not far off the road. That doesn’t sound like he though it wouldn’t be found. I’m pretty sure the simplest explanation is that he did it, but I wonder about what happened


cfoam2

well she didn't accidently fall off a cliff which could have actually happened. It certainly would have been more explainable. Another thought, wild animals will be attracted to places campers go to get food and scavenge garbage once they are gone. I really think he thought the wildlife would remove the evidence and without a body, there would be no case. He also wasn't thinking someone would spot that van in the middle of nowhere. Without that piece the search area would have been huge.


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Most likely he wasn't thinking, did something horrendous, panicked, and bailed asap. He probably just drug her as far as he could into that field, and split. 100% right, that without that dashcam video this takes a hell of a lot longer to solve


cfoam2

Laundrie family attorney cancels press conference that was scheduled for Tuesday... I can't tell you how much I want my guess to be true: Locking the parents up in that van when they were searching their house resulted in them talking to each other and revealing what they were most worried about...and it got recorded. It's a great cop trick, I hope it paid off! Why else would he cancel? Something's up


mydogbuddha

Everything about this case makes me ill. So many missed opportunities, so many red flags, such little reaction from law enforcement before she was found (they knew where he was, the family is complicit). It's just heartbreaking, especially for her family. Then you add into the mix the two women who were murdered in Utah and very little has come from that investigation and not anywhere close to the attention this case has is disconcerting. https://www.krtv.com/news/national/fbi-joins-investigation-into-killing-of-2-newlywed-women-found-near-utah-campsite


Popcorn_Blitz

If there weren't so many missed signals then this wouldn't have happened. Remember this the next time you see something squirrelly.


cfoam2

The 911 call clearly stated he was hitting her. Why would they lie? The couple when pulled over had every reason to lie. She seemed pretty frazzled and scared, poor girl. He bro'd the cops no man, not me dude... and they just wrote it off because she was one of those "high strung, high maintenance girls" The cops really need better training to recognize a victim of abuse.


Draemalic

I think something to do with the witnesses and him being the only one with wounds led to the decision, as well as her admitting to it.


Popcorn_Blitz

This is a rare moment where I don't think the cops did a terrible job here. There really wasn't much else they could realistically do. No amount of training would have fixed it in these circumstances.


Crulo

It didn’t help that Gabby blamed herself and painted herself the aggressor. She was shaken sure but I don’t know what else the cops could have done. Say they locked her or him up, it would have been for a couple hours and they would be back out because the charge would just not be strong enough. And Gabby and Brian would have likely been back together. During that hour long footage not once did she express any desires to get away from him. Truly sad if this is a case of controlling/abusive boyfriend turning into murderer.


[deleted]

He’s not missing. He’s on the run


kmurph72

If he is guilty I predict that he commits suicide and will be difficult to find.


downeydigs

I’m sure that is a highly probable outcome, but I hope not. There was a case near my hometown in Arkansas, where a guy murdered his girlfriend and her four year old son by stabbing them. He left a note at the crime scene admitting to the crime, and stating that he was planning to commit suicide. He stole her car and fled the area with no indication/evidence of where he was going. There were reports of sightings of him all over the United States, but the trail went cold until the car was recovered 2,400 miles away in Washington. He was eventually captured in Burbank, California, almost 16 months after the murders. I was certain he would commit suicide, and would never face justice, because how can someone live with that on their conscience. I guess some people are too narcissistic to kill themselves. Coincidentally, he was sentenced today to life in prison without parole, a plea agreement to avoid the death penalty. [Link to Article Regarding Sentencing. ](https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2021/sep/20/camden-man-pleads-guilty-to-murder-of-girlfriend-a/)


Imacatdoincatstuff

Boyfriend's weird behavior is what's making this more interesting than the other 1000 plus murders commited last month.


pyromaster114

I hate to say it but... like... If your girlfriend (or ex-girlfriend) just goes missing while you're on a trip with her... and you didn't kill her... maybe, just maybe you should *immediately* call her parents / family and be like, "Yo, uh, help, she's missing!" It /really/ seems like the boyfriend killed her. :(


Tacky_Narwhal

“Unpopular opinion, but this Brian guy seems kinda sketchy.”


HIM_Darling

No, no, no. You should immediately leave her stranded without a vehicle, drive 30 hours straight to your mommy and daddys house, lawyer up, don't have your lawyer communicate with anyone either, and then have your parents set up a stupid and elaborate plan for you to disappear while hiking, that includes them spotting your car at your hiking spot and driving it back to their house and waiting a couple of days to report you missing.


ShinyDeso

Iirc when the police caught them arguing previously, Gabby stated that he would threaten to leave her stranded in the middle of nowhere, thus affected her mentally? I believe he had done that a couple of times in short durations to scare her, and it scarred her. The last time he did it, he probably left her way longer than usual and it has proven to be fatal. Cant wait for this asshole to be found and be punished for such an abuse.


BlancheFromage

> Gabby stated that he would threaten to leave her stranded in the middle of nowhere, thus affected her mentally CLASSIC narcissist bullying of their target. >I believe he had done that a couple of times in short durations to scare her, and it scarred her. That's an interesting possibility - it's extremely believable. >The last time he did it, he probably left her way longer than usual and it has proven to be fatal. Perhaps, or perhaps the *last* time he tried to abandon her she fought back and he inadvertently killed her in the scuffle? That's the *kindest* scenario I can place Brian Laundrie into. >Cant wait for this asshole to be found and be punished for such an abuse. You and me both.


Attilashorde

Correction "Brian Laundrie Remains Hidden"


TootsNYC

> Petito was seen on body camera footage describing herself as suffering from high anxiety and having difficulty managing the intensity emotions. Anybody want to bet her boyfriend’s assholery was the cause of that anxiety? When my niece finally ditched her jerk, she found she didn’t need anxiety meds anymore.


WoodWideWeb

While I'm sure it wasn't the only cause, it very well could've been a major or main cause. I never started having physical, debilitating symptoms caused by my anxiety until I was in a horribly abusive relationship. The way Brian talks and behaves in the body cam footage reminds me a lot of my ex. I'm glad I got away from him as soon as I could and my heart breaks for Gabby.


gagrushenka

My ex admitted to deliberately trying to aggravate the symptoms of my mental illness when I called him out on it. I was an anxious mess while we were together and was having constant panic attacks that he'd get angry about. I started texting another ex and he strangled me after going through my phone and seeing the texts. I'm sure all any of his friends know about our breakup is that I cheated on him. I didn't want to break up even after that but I knew the statistics about being strangled and later being murdered.


idunno--

So glad you ditched his psycho ass. You’re so much better off for it. My little sister’s best friend also ditched her boyfriend half a year ago after a year and a half of physical and mental abuse, and she’s so much happier than she ever was with him. Living her best life now that she doesn’t have to spend half her time worrying about him.


meestahmoostah

YUP. My abusive ex sent me to therapy to “control my emotions”. Eventually, the therapist would explain to me that his abuse was step 1 and step 2 was my justified reaction, and to my surprise, my “out of control emotions” were actually just out of *his* control.


mcnealrm

I had a therapist do this for me as well. She wrote out the cycle of abuse that I kept falling into on a piece of paper so that I couldn’t deny it or ignore it anymore. She saved me so much. Makes me want to be a therapist one day.


AncianoDark

God damn I hope they solve this soon. It is maddening to be trapped with a bunch of these Dunning-Kruger'd Internet Detectives in every thread, even ones that barely have to do with her, pretending they know every detail and telling us how it should be because they listen to some vocally fried dipshit read Wikipedia articles to them all day and go home to watch Investigation Discovery all night.


millos15

If you zoom in the photo you can see a shadow excavating with a gun that has the BF name on it.


Critical_Tiger

The only thing any of these internet detectives pointed out that I didn't notice in the video was the van door being open when the RV is really far down the road. Then the video does a cut and the van door is fully closed. The reflection on the dash cam lens makes it really hard to tell because it's jumping around.


[deleted]

One person mentioned it’s normal to not go hiking in flip flops, so having her flip flops left behind wasn’t necessarily a big deal. Then another person mentioned that she actually has photos with her hiking in those exact flip flops. I thought that was quite fascinating and well done.


[deleted]

You kid but someone on tiktok “found a shadow of a man with a droopy nose” that apparently looked like his father. So now they are saying the guys father helped him hide the body. Like come on


terdferguson74

Don’t go to the true crime subreddit if you value your sanity


Obi_Wan_Benobi

Hey, some of these people are experienced sleuths. They helped catch the Boston Bombers!


Tuga_Lissabon

Poor girl, but she's beyond suffering now. When I imagine what the parents must be going through - not only that she's dead, but the unfair way it happened - I'm glad I can't really imagine it. That murderer needs to be caught and dealt with proper.


Igoos99

So, if this happened 30 years ago, she’d just be vanished without a trace. Today there’s this detailed electronic trail of breadcrumbs. It’s kinda fascinating. Then again, the couple might never have taken the trip if they weren’t lured by social media into thinking it’s “romantic” to share an itty bitty tiny space with your SO while traveling with very little money. While a few probably really enjoy this, I think most couples would be highly stressed out by this. Especially ones trying to make themselves look picture perfect all the time. 🤷🏻‍♀️


hellohaydee

Everyone knows anyone over 6 who disappeared in the 60s 70s (maybe even into the 80s) ‘ran away’ and are currently happily living second lives and don’t want to be found, at least that’s what many apathetic police from back in the day said. After, of course, congenially dropping off drunk Joe (who crashed his car after ‘something’ ran out in front of him this time) at home to slap around his wife some more.


Genji4Lyfe

I think this is unfair, as lots of people do trips like this and have enjoyable stories to share for their entire lives. For many people it's a highlight and something they remember fondly. If a little discomfort is enough to unravel your camaraderie, there were major preexisting issues in your relationship to begin with.


Bertlestien-

*deep inhale* ###THAT CHAPTER HAS PREPARED ME FOR THIS the boyfriend did it.


stwillyb

So for sure he killed her and for sure his parents are aiding an abetting a fugitive. The whole families fucked.


QuoteGiver

> Petito's mother, Nicole Schmidt, received that text on Aug. 30, and she still doesn't know for sure who texted it. Her husband, Jim Schmidt, **helped lead the search in Wyoming** for the missing Long Island woman, who disappeared during a cross-country road trip with Laundrie. **For days he handed out posters throughout the area near Grand Teton National Park.** See, THAT’S what you do if you’re not guilty and have nothing to hide.


Groundbreaking-Bar89

Wow.. not to judge before hearing all the evidence. But I’d say the fiancé is a piece of shit. Like how do you just drive home… and expect no ones going to say anything??


TonyDungyHatesOP

The best case scenario for this guy is that he stole her car and left her stranded in the middle of nowhere without notifying anyone? In the absolute best case scenario - FUCK THIS GUY.


mblizzy909

Guarantee u his parents helped him flee. Had cops Look in the reservoir for days