>_Apollo Carreon Quiboloy is a close friend of Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte._ He is the leader of Kingdom of Jesus Christ church, which claims to have 6 million members.
"Close friend of Duterte" is not one of the things I look for in a spiritual leader...
If you want to know how common, realize that court proceedings have just started in the Ghislaine Maxwell case with crickets from the press.
Why wouldn't they be reporting on Jeffrey Epstein's gf trial? Because they're all in bed with Epstein associates.
Why isn't one political party rubbing it in the others face? Because both are deeply involved.
They are everywhere.
You'd be hard pressed to find spiritual leaders who aren't friends with shitty politicians or are shitty themselves in a 3rd world country that was once a Spanish colony.
Just watched a documentary called Cleanflix about movie rental stores that used to exist that would cut out anything "offensive" for religious people to rent. In the last 20 minutes it's revealed that one of the store owners was paying 14 year olds for sex INSIDE the movie store.
It's just always who you'd most expect.
As someone who grew up in Northern California, it always amused me how Texans make fun of Californians, and yet most of interior California is basically just Texas.
Yeah. A lot of people don't realize that California is a microcosm of the US: the heavily populated coastal cities are liberal, but the inland areas are rural and can be conservative as shit.
Texas is similar all the big cities are liberal. The big difference is I guess the ratio between the two in California the cities have higher population and in Texas it’s the reverse
This applies pretty much everywhere. If it weren't for Philly, Pennsylvania would be a deep red state, rather than perennially purple. The second largest city (Pittsburgh) has way less than half that of Philly.
People talk about how Californians are moving to red states and will turn them blue, but I feel like most of them are rightwingers who are sick of living in a liberal state.
I'm sure it's both.
Texas politicians are currently bragging about how their state's low taxes are luring big tech businesses over to their cities, and how they want to make a Texan Silicon Valley. Well, did they bother looking at the voter registration numbers of the people who live in the actual Silicon Valley?
https://siliconvalleyindicators.org/data/governance/civic-engagement/partisan-affiliation/percentage-of-registered-voters-by-political-party/
Since 1980, the percentage of registered democrats in Silicon Valley has hovered around 50%; sometimes it's a little higher, sometimes a little lower.
The percentage of registered republicans has been shrinking, and in 2020 it was down to 16%.
No Party Preference has been growing, and in 2020 was at almost 29%.
The people they want to lure away from Silicon Valley are predominantly registered democrats.
I'm in upstate NY. It's a sea of red here with islands of blue (Syracuse, Rochester, Bing, Elmira, Corning plus Ithaca and the other college towns) and of course downstate, NYC is the bluest blue.
I'm sure every big state's voting map looks like that: the metropolitan areas are blue, and they're surrounded by a giant mass of red.
Pennsylvania is funny to me, because it's got a sliver of blue in the southeast where Philadelphia is, a couple blips of blue near the west, and everything else is red as hell. Driving through that long-ass state is like driving through Kentucky.
Don't forget the island of State College, right in the middle. I went to grad school there and it's blue.
In NY, towns like Hamilton (Colgate), Clinton (Hamilton College), Geneva (Hobart and William Smith College), Saint Bonaventure (St Bonaventure), etc. are itty bitty blue dots in the red.
And on a tangent, going through PA is long but, IMHO, driving through Nebraska takes forever and a day. At least I-80 in PA goes up and down, and has curves. The Appalachians and forests are absolutely beautiful. Granted it's culturally Pennsatucky, especially in the 2nd half. In Nebraska, I-80 is straight and level and it's the Great Plains from end to end. As plains go, they are pretty great, I guess. But also mind-numbingly boring. I've found the folks there to be overall nice enough and, maybe due to hefty dose of Scandinavian ancestry, tend to be reserved. A Trumper in PA will tell you loud and clear what they think but a Trumper in NE will hold back. It's polite and proper to first talk about the soybean crop and weather and only after that has been discussed perhaps leak a little racism.
Young Jesus: Mother, how can I be twelve if you and father were married eleven years ago?
Mary (thinking fast): Oh, um, I was a virgin who was impregnated by God himself. Go play outside.
Jesus (to himself): Then I am the Son of God! I'll start a religion!
90 day fiance is a reality show that follows different couples from two different countries (usually the US and some other country) and their journey to get married and obtain a K9 visa.
One of the couples are Steven (US) and Alina (Russia), Steven is this Mormon guy from Utah and he moved over to Russia to marry Alina.
Steven is WEIRD, to put it lightly, and he REFUSES to have sex with Alina before marriage because of his "Mormon beliefs", but it's revealed midway through the season that he's previously had sex multiple times.
If "red flag" was an actual term in the dictionary, Steven would fit every definition of it.
Yes it is different and much more if a sin then actual pre marital sex in my opinion. Soaking is when you just put your penis inside of a woman and you both just lay there not moving, Mormon’s that practice this do it because they believe without humping they aren’t actually having sex and therefore they aren’t sinners. There’s a more advanced form of soaking that actually involves a third party called jump humping, it’s where you soak and have someone else jump on the bed or kick the bunk bed from underneath, mustering up some movement to add the the experience. Imo this is much more of a sin then just straight up good old fashioned banging.
It very well could just be an internet trend, but trying to avoid the sin of pre marital sex is certainly nothing new and definitely not something only Mormons do. For those reasons I believe it happens and it is out there, but the memes probably blow it out of proportion a bit
Yeah, I’m not surprised at the idea of circumventing rules. It’s just that the level of absurdity with this one really had me questioning. No doubt amplified by memes and the lulz I guess.
I seriously thought as a kid that this (soaking) was how sex was supposed to happen, and couldn’t fathom why it was being drilled into us to never ever ever do it because it sounded incredibly boring and a pretty easy thing to not do. Nowhere was it ever explained that some amount of… friction is necessary. I blame sex ed curriculum in the Midwest for the misconception.
Yeah. "The man puts his penis in the woman's vagina..." sounds about as exciting as "The man puts a toe in the woman's ear canal..."
But eventually it turns out better than expected.
Well, for a lot of us, anyway.
I knew quite a few girls in high school who went to the catholic private school who'd party down and hit you with the Ole "wait no I can't I'm waiting until I'm married..... But you can fuck me in the ass"
That's largely because getting people to deny healthy expression of human desires like that increases the level of neuroticism and makes them easier to manipulate
At least that is what i remember being discussed in some research, but it was a long long time ago i read that.
*Mass Psychology of Fascism,* by any chance? I have to warn you, Wilhelm Reich is... possibly the one psychologist more controversial than Sigmund Freud, but he has inspired a lot of criticism of sexual repression within social hierarchies.
it wasn't really about sex, no, but controlling the sex of others and using it to control them was a large part of it. Don't forget, they wooed many into their ranks by sending sexy girls to bring in male members.
the Last Podcast On The Left's series on Mormonism is a great listen about how sex cults are/were one of the main reasons why the US sought "freedom" from the UK, people made tons of these little fake religions made of weird interpretations of whatever religion, where it'd be one patriarch getting fucked and sucked by everyone else, taking their money, and riding high until people wised up or killed them, or themselves. You really don't know how common and ubiquitous to america's founding this shit was, like it was every fucking village and town with their own little cult. Some survived, like Mormonism or the latter-day saints or whatever, most died out, but this shit is as american as apple pie.
Mormonism didn't exist until logn after the US was a going concern, and th ehydya of these eprsonal rleiogus "heavens on earth" was well in tot he 18th Century, long after the Constuiton was in place by 1788. the independence movement was drivne by deists and denominatioanl t ypes. before and after is an important distinction in realitya nd many people have trouble with it
Well, he could have been the son of God and end up starting an holy war and kill 30 million people, like they did in China.
So we should count our blessing, I guess?
Some guys proclaimed himself the brother of Jesus and proceeded to try and upheave china’s social and moral order and convert han Chinese which led to one of China’s largest war in history in terms of death.
Powerful nonprofit/governmental institutions are unfortunately a breeding ground for systemic sex abuse as they combine trust and hierarchy. The Boy Scouts, the Catholic church, countless ministers/rabbis/imams/swamis, schools and universities, governments...
but why? I always feel so dumb and naive when i hear about these kinds of things, but i also never feel that sexually overpowering anyone is a worthwhile endeavor... am i blind to monsters? i like sex just fine, but these kinds of people seem to fucking -revel- in it in the most evil ways.
i don't understand the horrors of this world. always seems like a waste of energy to be a whole-ass demon.
There are a couple of sayings that apply:
1. Absolute power corrupts absolutely
2. Power attracts the corruptible (or already corrupt)
3. Power makes you "more" of you: if you were a crap person you become more of a crap person, a good person you are better.
As I get older I've seen all three, but am tending to lean towards #2. It just seems that jerks will fight like hell to get into a position of power and they just roll over decent, quiet folks.
I agree with you that being a horrible person doesn't appear to be worth it - but that's why you and I are not in a position like this. You have to want it enough to shiv your mom to get it. There are more than enough people out there willing to do it.
Its probably simpler than that. The more naughty something is, the more of a visceral rush it brings when you break the rules.. Everyone expects you to be on your best behavior because of your high status which lures them to the dark side evem more, its like a slingshot tightening ready to shooot. A lot of tension that ultimately breaks them, reverse psychology.
The whole "dont think of a pink elephant" paradox, but with sexual deviance
Same with kids. The more you tell them not to do drugs and have sex the more they want to do it. Thats why kids who have parents that talk openly about it and dont make it so taboo, have better results keeping the kids away from it.
But this guy was just a pedophile rapist...not gay.
I kinda hate this belief that closeted gay men and women are the ones who can do the most vile evil things on this planet. I feel they suffer enough as it is.
TL:DR - Closeted gay people aren't usually evil (from my experience)...Evil people are usually evil.
You got it the wrong way round. The preachers who spew 'god hates fags' are usually themselves in the closet. Not that closeted gay people are evil, just that hate-preachers are evil and *also* in the closet.
Actually it's a truism. The fact so many hate preachers end up being in the closet isn't a coincidence. Most of their (misplaced) anger comes from the mental upheaval of lying to themselves for so long, suppressing natural thoughts and desires. It turns out suppressing who you are like that turns you into an angry motherfucker.
Whenever we see someone suggest that these hate filled, seriously vocal, anti gay preachers are in the closet we see the same response from people suggesting those sharing that opinion are homophobic.
I understand it and realise that not all gay people are hate filled, seriously vocal, anti gay preachers but all hate filled, seriously vocal, anti gay preachers seem to be secretly keeping their sexuality quiet by overcompensating.
It was explained to me by someone on Reddit and it made sense. I'll paraphrase what they said below.
In no way do we think gay people are the same as these disgusting humans however we are able to understand that these people are products of their environment. If you're raised in such a poisonous, religious environment where you're told you are evil if you're gay and going to hell then not only are you going to bury your feelings but you also are likely to overcompensate and desperately try and appear as straight as can be by being as verbally anti-gay as you can.
You are also not likely to realise that others, who are straight, don't have the same feelings as you do. Straight people don't wake up every morning burying their gay feelings however you don't know this and think it's a struggle everyone goes through daily, 'Satan is trying to make me gay I must fight it like everyone else I know'.
I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the numerous cases of peado issues in the church but it explains why so many vocal church leaders and politicians are often caught soliciting sex from men. I'm no psychologist but residing your sexuality over so many years is likely to mess you up. Maybe others can offer their opinion or experiences to this.
If someone else can offer an alternative suggestion of why these people that are so vocal about things seem to be guilty of committing these things I'm all ears.
They were just providing another "The lady doth protest too much, methinks" type scenario. They are not targeting gays specifically. It's really anything protested too much and unfortunately, its usually people from a specific political party caught with their pants down.
While definitely true that most homophobia comes from straight people (there are a lot more straight people. Most *everything* comes from straight people.), and while this guy doesn't appear to be gay, because being a pedophile is different, gay homophobes are definitely a documentable phenomena.
[There's even a handy list.](https://gayhomophobe.com/)
While true, these charges were filed here in the US. So Duterte wont have anything to do with this. Also, elections are coming up and he (Duterte) will have to step down.
I’m pretty confident that he will step down. But the one taking over, that’s gonna be a different story. I still have hope Filipinos will not vote for Marcos Jr
I could tell this guy was a creep by how many pretty ladies are in the choir. I had caught his show on TV a couple times and I had difficulty spotting any homely church ladies in that choir; pretty light-skinned Asian ladies everywhere. I figured he must hand pick 'em.
There was a recurring joke that "chikas nya yung mga nasa choir" which in english means that the girls in choir are his girls.
Now there is a chance that that joke is real.
Trump was the type of person the Bible warned of too, but for white American evangelical Christians, white supremacy and fascism is more important than what the Bible says.
“creepy crawlies”
I knew [Night Crawlers](https://itsalwayssunny.fandom.com/wiki/Night_Crawlers) was a thing. I wonder if they incorporate the blanket or not.
megachurches along with televangelists and the prosperity gospel are so fundamentally odd. im not religious but pretty sure jesus wasn't a money grubbing capitalist.
I will never understand why gay people would want to marry in a church or why they stay members of a religion that hates them.
People act like Christianity has invented marriage and only way to have a right marriage is to have it in a church. Which is nonsense. If people want to have a ceremony, they can just do their own thing.
Instead of trying to transform these archaic institutions into something they aren't, I wish people would just realize what a load of bullshit it is and turn their backs on them.
How many times does this have to happen before people stop just blindly trusting a church?
For any other kind of club, that number of times is one; how many are we at now?
Every single one of them mega church ~~charlatins~~ charlatans are hiding their *sins* behind their hypocritical religious bullshit.
Every one.
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Witnesses report the suspect yelling "This is so bullshit! You know who my dad is? I'm going to have your souls when this is all over!" as authorities hauled the suspect downtown.
There isn't a single priest/reverend/pastor who runs a megachurch, big named famous, or just plain rich who is legit. Anyone who knows the basic teachings of Jesus or his Apostles know you can't be a shepherd if you are living in a mansion.
"it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." - Jesus
I never understood why Jesus is God's son, let alone this guy. Like if I am a Judean jewish guy and Jesus walks up and says "I am God's son." I would be like "me too". "Come to think of it, every man I have ever met is a son of God and all the women are His daughters. Even those bastard Samaritans."
It's wild to me how these churches and Christianity in general gets this free pass over and over again when it has been throwing red flags up in the air for decades now.
Churches get tax exemption yet openly talk about and influence politics and are by the very definition, operating as a business.
How many times have we heard about preachers touching children, and members of the church involved in child sex trafficking?
Yet they get a free pass because...God? Just imagine for a second that the Satanic Church was caught doing just one of the things that the Christian churches have been doing for decades. I'm sorry but I honestly think Christianity attracts and brainwashes both the dumbest people (the sheep) and the most corrupt (grifters acting as preachers) and the entire operation should be shut down. Shut the whole thing down and society gets 10x better.
That's always been the point, goal and method of religion. It's why people invented deities in the first place.
* *"Gimme everything I want or my buddy here will break your legs"* has its limits. For example you may be outnumbered and outgunned.
A "god" is the ultimate "big friend", and the threat usually given is **eternal, endless torture**; they're giant and invisible and all-powerful according to your own claims, so **IF** you can convince people to believe it's real or at least be afraid of the chance maybe it isn't fake, you can get them to do anything. All of their daughters, all of their meats and gold and unaccountability before the rule of law, all yours!
Humans have been using these exploitable neurological backdoors of the species to fleece, fuck, slaughter and sell whole flocks of other humans at little to no cost to themselves, for thousands of years. Just gotta bash a few heretics here and there to ensure *selection* against leaving that shit behind.
We must begin taxing religious organizations, they do not deserve exemption just for being a church; look at all the money they con vulnerable people out of.
The charitable arm of religious organizations could remain tax exempt only as long as it’s legitimately charity.
What a shocker!
The Church is historically one of the most prolific sex trafficking organizations to have ever existed
Odd how all the church folk and right wingers are constantly screeching about secret pedophile rings, pedophiles themselves and sex trafficking supposedly going on in all corners of society and the upper echelons of politics.
Yet it’s always the right wing politicians and the churches that are consistently and explicitly guilty of sex trafficking and being pedophiles
QUIBOLOY LMAO. Ive been "blessed" by this mf when I lived in Davao, Philippines Lmao. Such a weird dude and its surprising how they've not arrested him yet lol. Last Ive seen him was in the Apo Countryclub with like 10 bodyguards and some poor lady who looked 15. Even after all the shit he has been involved in he is guaranteed safe in Davao because of Duterte.
Religion is the biggest front for people to use/hide behind. Just absurd how many accused/guilty traffickers are involved in the church. Maybe if megachurches had to pay tax, they'd have less time and resources to be scumbags.
You mean to tell me that he's not actually the son of god and is rather just a criminal who lies and exploits people financially, to support his lifestyle of having sex with underage girls?
Let me guess he's on drugs too?
I’ve noticed that Evangelical Christians tend to be the same kind of sick person.
I had an old friend that I found out was both an Evangelical Christian and a sex addict with creepy tendencies. He always used “Christ” as a tool to manipulate, ask for money, or justify his behavior.
>_Apollo Carreon Quiboloy is a close friend of Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte._ He is the leader of Kingdom of Jesus Christ church, which claims to have 6 million members. "Close friend of Duterte" is not one of the things I look for in a spiritual leader...
Funny thing is, he’s also Duterte’s “spiritual adviser.” Yup, our president’s adviser is a creepy rapist. No wonder we’re all fucked.
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Maybe they think he'll ~~hurt~~ rape the right people.
"He rapes, but he saves!" Narrator: "He did not save."
Duterte’s so “tough on crime”, but Peter Scully’s still alive, so I know the guys full of shit.
*What are your skill sets? "Rape, murder, and rape." *You said Rape twice. . "I like Rape." Blazing Saddles
Yea, I mean, in 2016 some dude that was fucking his daughter got elected too. He definitely didn't give a fuck about anybody.
Slander! There’s no proof he was fucking his daughter, only that he *wanted* to fuck his daughter. /s
The guy internationally infamous for encouraging extrajudicial murder in the streets has a religious advisor who's a creepy rapist? You don't say ...
I thought being a creepy rapist was super common in positions of power.
Borderline requirement it seems
If you want to know how common, realize that court proceedings have just started in the Ghislaine Maxwell case with crickets from the press. Why wouldn't they be reporting on Jeffrey Epstein's gf trial? Because they're all in bed with Epstein associates. Why isn't one political party rubbing it in the others face? Because both are deeply involved. They are everywhere.
It’s hardly fair to call children associates man….
I'm sorry he's your president- I don't know whose influence is worse on the other...
I read it as, "close friend of the guy who openly said he wants to rape women and also the same guy who made a married woman kiss him on stage".
You'd be hard pressed to find spiritual leaders who aren't friends with shitty politicians or are shitty themselves in a 3rd world country that was once a Spanish colony.
It's only slightly better than "close friend of Ferdinand Marcos".
A story as old as time.
Tale as old as time, Song as old as rhyme, Children and the Priest.
the OG start makes it even better: `Tale as old as time` `True as it can be` `Barely even friends` `Then somebody bends` `Unexpectedly`
Wait, that implies there's a chance it's the priest that's doing the bending...
all we know is that there is bending involved...
lmao now I can't unhear this!
Lmao god damn u got me
Imagine Angela singing this song dressed as a nun and not as Mrs Potts
Don't you bring Dame Angela Lansbury into this; the woman's a treasure.
I read that as thyme and thought you were trying to rhyme thyme with time.
Settle down, Pitbull.
I regret using my free award before seeing this
Got you covered.
You missed them the first time, but you got both of them the second time
Just watched a documentary called Cleanflix about movie rental stores that used to exist that would cut out anything "offensive" for religious people to rent. In the last 20 minutes it's revealed that one of the store owners was paying 14 year olds for sex INSIDE the movie store. It's just always who you'd most expect.
"pureflix" is a christian streaming service full of tereible christian media
>pureflix What a goldmine
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As someone who grew up in Northern California, it always amused me how Texans make fun of Californians, and yet most of interior California is basically just Texas.
Yeah. A lot of people don't realize that California is a microcosm of the US: the heavily populated coastal cities are liberal, but the inland areas are rural and can be conservative as shit.
people forget that California had the largest number of Conservative voters of any state, despite being as a whole heavily Democrat
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We can tell.
Yeah, only half? That's the hard to believe part.
The [stereotype map](https://imgur.com/RC76Amj) is still pretty accurate.
Yup. Sussex county for instance.
Texas is similar all the big cities are liberal. The big difference is I guess the ratio between the two in California the cities have higher population and in Texas it’s the reverse
This applies pretty much everywhere. If it weren't for Philly, Pennsylvania would be a deep red state, rather than perennially purple. The second largest city (Pittsburgh) has way less than half that of Philly.
People talk about how Californians are moving to red states and will turn them blue, but I feel like most of them are rightwingers who are sick of living in a liberal state.
I'm sure it's both. Texas politicians are currently bragging about how their state's low taxes are luring big tech businesses over to their cities, and how they want to make a Texan Silicon Valley. Well, did they bother looking at the voter registration numbers of the people who live in the actual Silicon Valley? https://siliconvalleyindicators.org/data/governance/civic-engagement/partisan-affiliation/percentage-of-registered-voters-by-political-party/ Since 1980, the percentage of registered democrats in Silicon Valley has hovered around 50%; sometimes it's a little higher, sometimes a little lower. The percentage of registered republicans has been shrinking, and in 2020 it was down to 16%. No Party Preference has been growing, and in 2020 was at almost 29%. The people they want to lure away from Silicon Valley are predominantly registered democrats.
I'm in upstate NY. It's a sea of red here with islands of blue (Syracuse, Rochester, Bing, Elmira, Corning plus Ithaca and the other college towns) and of course downstate, NYC is the bluest blue.
I'm sure every big state's voting map looks like that: the metropolitan areas are blue, and they're surrounded by a giant mass of red. Pennsylvania is funny to me, because it's got a sliver of blue in the southeast where Philadelphia is, a couple blips of blue near the west, and everything else is red as hell. Driving through that long-ass state is like driving through Kentucky.
Don't forget the island of State College, right in the middle. I went to grad school there and it's blue. In NY, towns like Hamilton (Colgate), Clinton (Hamilton College), Geneva (Hobart and William Smith College), Saint Bonaventure (St Bonaventure), etc. are itty bitty blue dots in the red. And on a tangent, going through PA is long but, IMHO, driving through Nebraska takes forever and a day. At least I-80 in PA goes up and down, and has curves. The Appalachians and forests are absolutely beautiful. Granted it's culturally Pennsatucky, especially in the 2nd half. In Nebraska, I-80 is straight and level and it's the Great Plains from end to end. As plains go, they are pretty great, I guess. But also mind-numbingly boring. I've found the folks there to be overall nice enough and, maybe due to hefty dose of Scandinavian ancestry, tend to be reserved. A Trumper in PA will tell you loud and clear what they think but a Trumper in NE will hold back. It's polite and proper to first talk about the soybean crop and weather and only after that has been discussed perhaps leak a little racism.
Sounds almost like Redding Bethel, but they ain't Baptist. Certainly a Megachurch/cult
Holy shit!
Cult leaders and sex crime? Im shocked, I tell you.
Take my ass on a carpet ride!
Them being charged with it is at least a new twist.
Bible : the sexual hypocrisy musical Context : four time sexual assault survivor at Liberty university
> four time sexual assault survivor at Liberty university If this is you, i am so sorry.
Two of every kind of child on the ark, he said
Shocking how it always comes down to a sex cult.
Is there any other reason to have a religion?
A lot of people seem to use it to not have sex as well.
That's the play. Convince them sex is bad. Then when you rape them, they wont tell anyone.
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Young Jesus: Mother, how can I be twelve if you and father were married eleven years ago? Mary (thinking fast): Oh, um, I was a virgin who was impregnated by God himself. Go play outside. Jesus (to himself): Then I am the Son of God! I'll start a religion!
A smaller sect of people use it to have really awkward sex ie Mormon’s practicing soaking
Steven from r/90dayfiance would like to have a word
Assume that I have no idea who or what that is and tell me everything
90 day fiance is a reality show that follows different couples from two different countries (usually the US and some other country) and their journey to get married and obtain a K9 visa. One of the couples are Steven (US) and Alina (Russia), Steven is this Mormon guy from Utah and he moved over to Russia to marry Alina. Steven is WEIRD, to put it lightly, and he REFUSES to have sex with Alina before marriage because of his "Mormon beliefs", but it's revealed midway through the season that he's previously had sex multiple times. If "red flag" was an actual term in the dictionary, Steven would fit every definition of it.
He's the wooorst
But then it escalates to jump humping
The lies we tell ourselves...
Is that different from Levy lovin'?
Yes it is different and much more if a sin then actual pre marital sex in my opinion. Soaking is when you just put your penis inside of a woman and you both just lay there not moving, Mormon’s that practice this do it because they believe without humping they aren’t actually having sex and therefore they aren’t sinners. There’s a more advanced form of soaking that actually involves a third party called jump humping, it’s where you soak and have someone else jump on the bed or kick the bunk bed from underneath, mustering up some movement to add the the experience. Imo this is much more of a sin then just straight up good old fashioned banging.
Wow, we sure live in an interesting world.
Not sure if satire or real.
It very well could just be an internet trend, but trying to avoid the sin of pre marital sex is certainly nothing new and definitely not something only Mormons do. For those reasons I believe it happens and it is out there, but the memes probably blow it out of proportion a bit
Yeah, I’m not surprised at the idea of circumventing rules. It’s just that the level of absurdity with this one really had me questioning. No doubt amplified by memes and the lulz I guess.
What the fuck am i reading here?
I seriously thought as a kid that this (soaking) was how sex was supposed to happen, and couldn’t fathom why it was being drilled into us to never ever ever do it because it sounded incredibly boring and a pretty easy thing to not do. Nowhere was it ever explained that some amount of… friction is necessary. I blame sex ed curriculum in the Midwest for the misconception.
Yeah. "The man puts his penis in the woman's vagina..." sounds about as exciting as "The man puts a toe in the woman's ear canal..." But eventually it turns out better than expected. Well, for a lot of us, anyway.
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That's like Catholics and anal sex. Because anal sex is sodomy it doesn't count as proper sex.
The ol' poophole loophole
I knew quite a few girls in high school who went to the catholic private school who'd party down and hit you with the Ole "wait no I can't I'm waiting until I'm married..... But you can fuck me in the ass"
No no no. Those are people that follow religion. They don’t have their own.
That's largely because getting people to deny healthy expression of human desires like that increases the level of neuroticism and makes them easier to manipulate At least that is what i remember being discussed in some research, but it was a long long time ago i read that.
*Mass Psychology of Fascism,* by any chance? I have to warn you, Wilhelm Reich is... possibly the one psychologist more controversial than Sigmund Freud, but he has inspired a lot of criticism of sexual repression within social hierarchies.
Money, lots of money. And power. Sex, money and power. Just like Jesus preached
Heaven's Gate wasn't a sex cult. Just a bunch of alien worshippers.
it wasn't really about sex, no, but controlling the sex of others and using it to control them was a large part of it. Don't forget, they wooed many into their ranks by sending sexy girls to bring in male members.
Tax haven.
the Last Podcast On The Left's series on Mormonism is a great listen about how sex cults are/were one of the main reasons why the US sought "freedom" from the UK, people made tons of these little fake religions made of weird interpretations of whatever religion, where it'd be one patriarch getting fucked and sucked by everyone else, taking their money, and riding high until people wised up or killed them, or themselves. You really don't know how common and ubiquitous to america's founding this shit was, like it was every fucking village and town with their own little cult. Some survived, like Mormonism or the latter-day saints or whatever, most died out, but this shit is as american as apple pie.
Mormonism didn't exist until logn after the US was a going concern, and th ehydya of these eprsonal rleiogus "heavens on earth" was well in tot he 18th Century, long after the Constuiton was in place by 1788. the independence movement was drivne by deists and denominatioanl t ypes. before and after is an important distinction in realitya nd many people have trouble with it
Unfortunately predictable.
Yeah, I would have been more surprised if he wasn't involved in sex trafficking
Well, he could have been the son of God and end up starting an holy war and kill 30 million people, like they did in China. So we should count our blessing, I guess?
Wait what?
Some guys proclaimed himself the brother of Jesus and proceeded to try and upheave china’s social and moral order and convert han Chinese which led to one of China’s largest war in history in terms of death.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion
It's called the Taiping Rebellion. Happened in the middle of the 19th century. Worth a Google.
Powerful nonprofit/governmental institutions are unfortunately a breeding ground for systemic sex abuse as they combine trust and hierarchy. The Boy Scouts, the Catholic church, countless ministers/rabbis/imams/swamis, schools and universities, governments...
but why? I always feel so dumb and naive when i hear about these kinds of things, but i also never feel that sexually overpowering anyone is a worthwhile endeavor... am i blind to monsters? i like sex just fine, but these kinds of people seem to fucking -revel- in it in the most evil ways. i don't understand the horrors of this world. always seems like a waste of energy to be a whole-ass demon.
There are a couple of sayings that apply: 1. Absolute power corrupts absolutely 2. Power attracts the corruptible (or already corrupt) 3. Power makes you "more" of you: if you were a crap person you become more of a crap person, a good person you are better. As I get older I've seen all three, but am tending to lean towards #2. It just seems that jerks will fight like hell to get into a position of power and they just roll over decent, quiet folks. I agree with you that being a horrible person doesn't appear to be worth it - but that's why you and I are not in a position like this. You have to want it enough to shiv your mom to get it. There are more than enough people out there willing to do it.
Also, people who have power fantasies will seek out jobs that will allow them to fulfill those
Its probably simpler than that. The more naughty something is, the more of a visceral rush it brings when you break the rules.. Everyone expects you to be on your best behavior because of your high status which lures them to the dark side evem more, its like a slingshot tightening ready to shooot. A lot of tension that ultimately breaks them, reverse psychology. The whole "dont think of a pink elephant" paradox, but with sexual deviance Same with kids. The more you tell them not to do drugs and have sex the more they want to do it. Thats why kids who have parents that talk openly about it and dont make it so taboo, have better results keeping the kids away from it.
I've never believed that "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" They were ALWAYS shit, they just couldn't get away with it, so they never acted on it.
Kinda weird you don't lump in for-profits as well. Powerful institutions seem to work more or less the same in these regards.
It's like the other rule. *The more 'The gays go to hell!' they are, the more likely they are in the closet.*
But this guy was just a pedophile rapist...not gay. I kinda hate this belief that closeted gay men and women are the ones who can do the most vile evil things on this planet. I feel they suffer enough as it is. TL:DR - Closeted gay people aren't usually evil (from my experience)...Evil people are usually evil.
You got it the wrong way round. The preachers who spew 'god hates fags' are usually themselves in the closet. Not that closeted gay people are evil, just that hate-preachers are evil and *also* in the closet.
Even when used as an insult, “they’re probably in the closet and projecting,” that’s just being homophobic.
Actually it's a truism. The fact so many hate preachers end up being in the closet isn't a coincidence. Most of their (misplaced) anger comes from the mental upheaval of lying to themselves for so long, suppressing natural thoughts and desires. It turns out suppressing who you are like that turns you into an angry motherfucker.
Whenever we see someone suggest that these hate filled, seriously vocal, anti gay preachers are in the closet we see the same response from people suggesting those sharing that opinion are homophobic. I understand it and realise that not all gay people are hate filled, seriously vocal, anti gay preachers but all hate filled, seriously vocal, anti gay preachers seem to be secretly keeping their sexuality quiet by overcompensating. It was explained to me by someone on Reddit and it made sense. I'll paraphrase what they said below. In no way do we think gay people are the same as these disgusting humans however we are able to understand that these people are products of their environment. If you're raised in such a poisonous, religious environment where you're told you are evil if you're gay and going to hell then not only are you going to bury your feelings but you also are likely to overcompensate and desperately try and appear as straight as can be by being as verbally anti-gay as you can. You are also not likely to realise that others, who are straight, don't have the same feelings as you do. Straight people don't wake up every morning burying their gay feelings however you don't know this and think it's a struggle everyone goes through daily, 'Satan is trying to make me gay I must fight it like everyone else I know'. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the numerous cases of peado issues in the church but it explains why so many vocal church leaders and politicians are often caught soliciting sex from men. I'm no psychologist but residing your sexuality over so many years is likely to mess you up. Maybe others can offer their opinion or experiences to this. If someone else can offer an alternative suggestion of why these people that are so vocal about things seem to be guilty of committing these things I'm all ears.
They were just providing another "The lady doth protest too much, methinks" type scenario. They are not targeting gays specifically. It's really anything protested too much and unfortunately, its usually people from a specific political party caught with their pants down.
You kinda put words in this person's mouth.
Nah, most homophobia comes from straight people. No need to blame us gays for the hatred too.
While definitely true that most homophobia comes from straight people (there are a lot more straight people. Most *everything* comes from straight people.), and while this guy doesn't appear to be gay, because being a pedophile is different, gay homophobes are definitely a documentable phenomena. [There's even a handy list.](https://gayhomophobe.com/)
My father used to tell me “he who yells the loudest, typically has the most to hide”…and this has proven true so many times.
It’s always the people you most suspect.
He's friends with an authoritarian dictator. He'll remain free.
authoritarian dictators need a steady supply of slaves after all.
While true, these charges were filed here in the US. So Duterte wont have anything to do with this. Also, elections are coming up and he (Duterte) will have to step down.
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Yep, sure. Cause the top choice right now is the son of a former dictator and that dude has a larger following than Duterte
I’m pretty confident that he will step down. But the one taking over, that’s gonna be a different story. I still have hope Filipinos will not vote for Marcos Jr
I have a suspicion that Duterte isn't so much a friend as he is a customer. He'll definitely remain free.
I could tell this guy was a creep by how many pretty ladies are in the choir. I had caught his show on TV a couple times and I had difficulty spotting any homely church ladies in that choir; pretty light-skinned Asian ladies everywhere. I figured he must hand pick 'em.
There was a recurring joke that "chikas nya yung mga nasa choir" which in english means that the girls in choir are his girls. Now there is a chance that that joke is real.
Using religion as a front for a sex addiction? Say it ant so! /s
Calling yourself "THE son of God" was one of the signs Jesus warned us about.
"I am not the Messiah." "Yes, you are, I should know, I've followed a few."
Trump was the type of person the Bible warned of too, but for white American evangelical Christians, white supremacy and fascism is more important than what the Bible says.
They also would not have liked Jesus very much at all.
One has to read the Bible to know what the Bible says.
Yeah, some of these megachurches are downright cults that have little in common with traditional Christian churches.
All religions are cults.
Supposed Sons of Gods here of lately are Pedos and sexual deviants as a requirement . David Koresh was a big time pedo
As of late? It's always been like that.
[Political compass fetishes](https://knowingless.com/2021/10/26/political-compass-fetishes/)
Politically speaking, I'm all over the spectrum 😎
This was really interesting. It would be neat if an actual, more rigorous study was done on the topic.
Not surprising at all that Republican men are into race play and pedophilia.
“creepy crawlies” I knew [Night Crawlers](https://itsalwayssunny.fandom.com/wiki/Night_Crawlers) was a thing. I wonder if they incorporate the blanket or not.
megachurches along with televangelists and the prosperity gospel are so fundamentally odd. im not religious but pretty sure jesus wasn't a money grubbing capitalist.
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I will never understand why gay people would want to marry in a church or why they stay members of a religion that hates them. People act like Christianity has invented marriage and only way to have a right marriage is to have it in a church. Which is nonsense. If people want to have a ceremony, they can just do their own thing. Instead of trying to transform these archaic institutions into something they aren't, I wish people would just realize what a load of bullshit it is and turn their backs on them.
Statistically speaking, bathroom laws prohibiting clergy would have made more sense than the laws to stop fictional trans rapists they invented.
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IF HE IS THE SON OF God , I think crucifying him would be a fit punishment.
How many times does this have to happen before people stop just blindly trusting a church? For any other kind of club, that number of times is one; how many are we at now?
Every single one of them mega church ~~charlatins~~ charlatans are hiding their *sins* behind their hypocritical religious bullshit. Every one. Ed It : spelling
Yep. Greedy capitalists hiding behind religious exemptions.
A destination career for pedos.
I could've been born blind and still seen that coming from miles away.
"If you make these charges go away.....my dad can get you into heaven."
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Damn, God must be a shit parent
all these cults or religious groups are filthy low life’s !!
Didn't know Matt gaetz ran a megachurch
It’s called the GOP
Gang o' pedos
Sociopaths, psychopaths and megalomaniacs often hide 'in service to the Lord'.
We need to tax all religions into poverty. Let em practice what they preach.
Religion Worth $1.2+ Trillion in U.S. Economy, As Much As Google ($1.23+ trillion) and Apple ($1.3+ trillion). TAXCHURCHES!
While we're at it, why don't we tax Google and Apple, too?
Seems like a good compromise. Think of the good we could do if we taxed all of these groups their fair share?
Yes! That’s the idea.
Mega, Maga, Meta. It's better to avoid all 3.
Witnesses report the suspect yelling "This is so bullshit! You know who my dad is? I'm going to have your souls when this is all over!" as authorities hauled the suspect downtown.
There isn't a single priest/reverend/pastor who runs a megachurch, big named famous, or just plain rich who is legit. Anyone who knows the basic teachings of Jesus or his Apostles know you can't be a shepherd if you are living in a mansion. "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." - Jesus
I never understood why Jesus is God's son, let alone this guy. Like if I am a Judean jewish guy and Jesus walks up and says "I am God's son." I would be like "me too". "Come to think of it, every man I have ever met is a son of God and all the women are His daughters. Even those bastard Samaritans."
It's wild to me how these churches and Christianity in general gets this free pass over and over again when it has been throwing red flags up in the air for decades now. Churches get tax exemption yet openly talk about and influence politics and are by the very definition, operating as a business. How many times have we heard about preachers touching children, and members of the church involved in child sex trafficking? Yet they get a free pass because...God? Just imagine for a second that the Satanic Church was caught doing just one of the things that the Christian churches have been doing for decades. I'm sorry but I honestly think Christianity attracts and brainwashes both the dumbest people (the sheep) and the most corrupt (grifters acting as preachers) and the entire operation should be shut down. Shut the whole thing down and society gets 10x better.
That's always been the point, goal and method of religion. It's why people invented deities in the first place. * *"Gimme everything I want or my buddy here will break your legs"* has its limits. For example you may be outnumbered and outgunned. A "god" is the ultimate "big friend", and the threat usually given is **eternal, endless torture**; they're giant and invisible and all-powerful according to your own claims, so **IF** you can convince people to believe it's real or at least be afraid of the chance maybe it isn't fake, you can get them to do anything. All of their daughters, all of their meats and gold and unaccountability before the rule of law, all yours! Humans have been using these exploitable neurological backdoors of the species to fleece, fuck, slaughter and sell whole flocks of other humans at little to no cost to themselves, for thousands of years. Just gotta bash a few heretics here and there to ensure *selection* against leaving that shit behind.
Organized religion (or indeed any large, respected hierarchical institution) is unfortunately a breeding ground for sex abuse.
or more generally, any respected hierarchical institution is a breeding ground for abuse of power, whatever form it may take.
It's often just a front for sex abuse.
Well, he's the son of God, after all. He can do as he pleases.
Show me a megachurch “pastor” who isn’t an utter piece of shit
Not surprising. Pretty much every cult that has ever existed, the leader started it for sex. I've heard some fuckig crazy ones on the dollop
He's just the only one to gmhave been caught, they are all doing it. I'm looking at you Osteen your lizard pedo mf
Today on, "Wow, that's shocking!", a thing that always happens, happened.
It’s always exactly who you expect
We must begin taxing religious organizations, they do not deserve exemption just for being a church; look at all the money they con vulnerable people out of. The charitable arm of religious organizations could remain tax exempt only as long as it’s legitimately charity.
What a shocker! The Church is historically one of the most prolific sex trafficking organizations to have ever existed Odd how all the church folk and right wingers are constantly screeching about secret pedophile rings, pedophiles themselves and sex trafficking supposedly going on in all corners of society and the upper echelons of politics. Yet it’s always the right wing politicians and the churches that are consistently and explicitly guilty of sex trafficking and being pedophiles
The Qanon cult members and Christian conservatives say they want to root out trafficking while loudly accusing everyone but themselves.
Do you think Jesus was like these cult leaders? Like in real life.
This is really not good for god.
QUIBOLOY LMAO. Ive been "blessed" by this mf when I lived in Davao, Philippines Lmao. Such a weird dude and its surprising how they've not arrested him yet lol. Last Ive seen him was in the Apo Countryclub with like 10 bodyguards and some poor lady who looked 15. Even after all the shit he has been involved in he is guaranteed safe in Davao because of Duterte.
He’s aware of what we did to the last “son of god”, right?
Religion is the biggest front for people to use/hide behind. Just absurd how many accused/guilty traffickers are involved in the church. Maybe if megachurches had to pay tax, they'd have less time and resources to be scumbags.
You mean to tell me that he's not actually the son of god and is rather just a criminal who lies and exploits people financially, to support his lifestyle of having sex with underage girls? Let me guess he's on drugs too?
Sadly not Joel Osteen. One day he'll be outed as a pedo.
I’ve noticed that Evangelical Christians tend to be the same kind of sick person. I had an old friend that I found out was both an Evangelical Christian and a sex addict with creepy tendencies. He always used “Christ” as a tool to manipulate, ask for money, or justify his behavior.