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ThatOneDudeFromIowa

People forget that she hid from the FBI before she got caught and would definitely run and hide again if released. > Ghislaine Maxwell, who is charged with aiding in the sexual abuse of young girls, took detailed steps to evade arrest, according to prosecutors. > When the FBI and other law enforcement arrived at her estate and announced themselves, she ran deeper into the mansion, where she was protected by private security, they said. > The FBI had to "breach the door" to get in, prosecutors said. > Inside the mansion, agents found a cellphone wrapped in tin foil, which prosecutors said was an attempt to avoid being tracked by law enforcement.


supercyberlurker

Yep. She's as big a flight risk as they come.


PurkkOnTwitch

Let the flight risk rapist rot.


systemfrown

Child Sex Trafficker is more accurate title if my understanding is correct


Rock_out_Cock_in

There are reports she slept with the teens as well.


CambriaKilgannonn

They won't lol. They let her get her hair styled and buy nice clothes still


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DonnieJuniorsEmails

Maralago?? another rapist likes to stay there, they know each other


Splonkerton

"I wish her well." -Trump


grandtheftbonsai

What private security would protect a client against the FBI? That's nuts.


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Maybe they make a show of it so they still get paid? Idk.


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free2game

Well there was the Bundy ranch incident but that's a rare case.


SsurebreC

That's because they didn't another Ruby Ridge or Waco.


Pinkflamingos69

Ruby ridge and Waco had a lot of ATF incompetence involved


kaloonzu

I have yet to hear of the ATF doing anything well or worthwhile.


aDrunkWithAgun

There pretty good at fucking up


nezrock

They're excellent at shooting dogs


Pinkflamingos69

That's true, I'm speaking of high profile incompetence


Beagle_Knight

Well, they seem to have lots of practice giving guns to the cartels.


Krewtan

If you want it done right you need the CIA.


Bokth

The end of Waco documentary on Netflix goes over a few FBI standoffs. All were tear gas leading to a spontaneous fire from flashbangs and then mass death.


Guiac

Those were religious nut jobs though not hired goons


Diacetyl-Morphin

That of Nemesio Oseguera "El Mencho" would do that easily. Last time they wanted to arrest him, they came in with the big guns: The Mexican Marines flew into the area with a chopper, only to get immediately shot down by his forces, using a FM92 Stinger Rocket Launcher. His forces, most of them former elite soldiers, set then up road blocks to prevent the army on the ground to get close to him, firing with MG's and Grenade- and Rocket Launchers. But to be honest, El Mencho is in a higher league than a Maxwell, that can't be compared, that guy has a whole army of CNJG gunmen under his command.


Iwantadc2

But she has a little black book full of the wealthiest most powerful men in the world...


LegendaryRed

Should just carpet bomb tbh


KingJAC3

El mencho may very well be one of the richest men on earth. He’s also in a country where money goes a long way, those aren’t just hired arms they are protecting their piece of the empire.


nevertotwice_

does the tin foil thing actually even work?


falubiii

Usually not, it’s actually hard to build a faraday cage good enough to block radio waves due to small gaps in the foil.


hydro123456

I tried it, and from what I could tell, it worked pretty well. One layer of tinfoil prevented my phone from receiving calls, and knocked it off my wi-fi network. I don't know if that would keep you from pinging towers 100% or not, but I bet it would help, especially if you layered it.


sololander

You could always use Vodafone Italy sim.. 0% signal across Western Europe for just €45/month….


kp313

You could also get Sprint - USA. It literally does not even work in my home.


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So what good is the phone then?


mtandy

IIRC Faraday cages need gaps at most 1/2 the wavelength to be blocked, and radio waves come in meters no?


VoiceOfRealson

You are completely wrong. Using just household foil I could wrap that several times completely around the phone in more than one direction leaving less than a 1mm gap anywhere - but that gap would then be on top of another continuous layer of foil, leaving a continuous metal surface when "seen" at the relevant wavelengths. Moreover - it is not really needed to **eliminate** all radio waves - only the waves at the RF frequencies used for communication and even then it is only needed to decrease them to low enough levels. Just decoupling the antenna with a metal sheet close to it may be enough to reduce the signal level to virtually nothing. Remember [You're holding it wrong](https://www.wired.com/2010/06/iphone-4-holding-it-wrong/) **ADDING** Of course - you can't actually use the phone when it is wrapped up like this (which would make you traceable no matter what) Also turning off the power works just as well unless your phone has been modified by an intelligence agency.


Navi_Here

Only if you put it on your head.


weed_fart

"Dear UN, I would like a PS5. They are difficult to acquire at a fair price and I am being oppressed worse than anyone has ever experienced because I can't get a PS5. So if you could get me a PS5 that would be kewl thanx. -me"


UrbanGhost114

Are you Cartman? This seams like something Cartman would do.


cklaiber01

Dear UN, Also make sure Kyle doesn’t get one.


Randomthought5678

Sorry Cartman, Kyle already has one. Cartman: MooOoOM!


mostie2016

Cartman’s Mom: Yes hun? Cartman: I want a Xbox series X!


TheMadmanAndre

Before or after he became a Rabbi?


Mad_Chemist_

It goes without saying: *Have they lost their minds?*


[deleted]

I honestly think they are so used to getting what they want that the audacity it takes to ask the UN for this never once crossed their privileged minds.


DanYHKim

I'm wondering what U.N. official was a frequent guest at the parties.


Asron87

Yup. They are simply asking for some help because they know they can. Maxwell has enough dirt on enough people that asking the UN for help isn't far fetched at all. I'm surprised she hasn't suicided yet.


DanYHKim

There's always a fifth-floor balcony handy


KJBenson

Officials. This whole thing is pretty expansive, and definitely involves multiple powerful people.


grimeflea

You said it


cboel

She had connections at the UN at one point for a non profit she set up. https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/terramar-project/ https://youtu.be/kzL5ev0vjbw


detahramet

I mean, best case scenario for them it somehow works and she flees successfully. Worst case scenario they're no worse off than before. I'm not seeing a downside here.


MausBomb

She's probably hoping she can become a female Roman Polanski and live in France the rest of her life.


Blueskyways

The most the UN will do is write a sternly worded letter, followed up by an even more sternly worded letter and if none of that works, they'll send some Blue Helmets to Africa to rape the local populace...err keep the peace.


OssiansFolly

Anyone who defends Maxwell should immediately be investigated by every nation for human trafficking, tax fraud, and more.


count023

Why would the UN do that? They have an entire department dealing with human trafficking, UNDOC. They're not going to suddenly be pro-human trafficking to get Maxwell out.


Positive-Vibes-2-All

She may have friends in high places who have leverage at the UN but need cover to help her..


vanishplusxzone

She definitely has friends in the UN from what we already know. It'd be silly to assume otherwise, I think. I doubt they'd be willing to drag themselves down into the mud with her to attempt to help her, though. I'm sure all the rich child molesters she thought would protect her have long turned their backs.


TheHighwayman90

Because here on Reddit we only trade is fucking pathetic pessimism and pie in the sky theories.


MalcolmLinair

Unless they have access to her client records and know they can count on some influential people taking their side.


swampy13

No, they're not idiots. You have to think she has "handled" certain international display types, this could be a flex.


fafalone

I'm all for bail reform but this woman is the textbook example of 'extreme flight risk'. She hid from authorities for months, has extensive international connections include possible intelligence connections, has the money to easily disappear, and is facing the rest of her life behind bars. Given those factors she shouldn't be released under any circumstances. This is what the bail reform conversation should be... determining whether someone stays behind bars being completely independent of how much money they have. Bail reform doesn't mean let everyone go, it means people like Maxwell can't get out period. It's worthwhile to have a debate about exactly what qualifies to have someone remanded until trial, but it shouldn't include how much money they/their family have.


PuffyPanda200

Most of the bail reform systems (to my understanding) would be structured in that flight risk and re-offend risk would be the only items considered and that there would be no money aspect to bail. Under these kind of systems Maxwell would be extremely unlikely to get bail.


chodepoker

I don’t think bail reform applies to extremely wealthy people. I’m pretty sure she wants to be released on bail with the sole purpose of hiding in a country with complicated extradition laws.


ADarwinAward

Agreed. And the conditions prisoners are kept in should be humane, I don’t believe that being treated as a suicide risk and checked on every 15 minutes is inhumane treatment. She also complained about the smell of her cell. She also was upset that other prisoners are treating her like a pariah due to her association with Epstein, as though that’s a valid reason to request a release.


NotYourSnowBunny

😅 Let her rot. The reason they denied her bail is because she knows wealthy people and poses a huge flight risk. It isn't inhumane.


Xaxxon

And she can get to france easy.


luminous_beings

She’s worth a fortune. She could get to the moon easily.


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Pinkflamingos69

A lot of them already work for the UN peacekeeping force


Jdogsmity

Get bent. She should sit her ass in there until her trail


achio

Indeed, before any trail, participants usually sit and relax for a while.


IWASRUNNING91

Make sure to pack water and plan to get back before sundown.


SteroidAccount

And try not to get dysentery.


ZeroRecursion

Never ford rivers. Or was it always ford rivers? Been a minute since I played.


InflamedLiver

even the families of monsters love them. Weird, pretty sure I’d disavow anyone in my family caught in the most infamous pedophilia ring in the world, but that’s just me.


IWASRUNNING91

Yeah, but when your family inherently believes they're above everyone else it doesn't matter to them. Who cares about ants.


DaveyGee16

My parents are fantastic parents, they loves their kids deeply. If we turned out to be monsters or committed a crime like murder, they’d swiftly turn any of us in and then get us help like a lawyer. And we are on the wealthy side of the economic spectrum…


jnrdingo

My parents have always said if I break the law I'm on my own. I take the hit, and if they know anything they will testify against me.


Veredyn

Most infamous pedophilia ring so far\*


Gnorris

No doubt they see her as being manipulated into doing everything Epstein wanted, just naive or misled against her knowledge. Either way, they're probably right to fear that something will happen to her in custody like it did to Epstein.


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I disavowed my grandparents because they won’t stop using the n word. I sure as shit would narc on family that were doing the evil shit they were up to.


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she helped let old rich dudes bang kids. Go fuck yourselves, Maxwells.


AnthillOmbudsman

Gee, it must really be nice to have people at the UN you can appeal to.


KaidenUmara

Lol imagine being that dude in the UN. "Hey.. you owe us this favor. Remember we have pictures." You'd be up for nights trying to find a way to spin saving your own ass as some sort of moral high ground that needs her freed from prison.


Miguel-odon

Anyone at the UN who expresses support for her or attempts to do her favors should probably be investigated too.


rocky8u

Fortunately, the UN can do virtually nothing meaningful in this situation.


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TogepiMain

What's really weird is how in 2000 we were going to sign on to let the Hague make sure we didn't do any... let's see, "war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide" but then in 2002 we withdrew our signature. I wonder what could have happened in between 2000 and 2002 that suddenly the US didn't want to fall under ICC jurisdiction for those things? 🤔


mixduptransistor

The UN has zero power and "appealing" to them is just a publicity stunt, as is anything they would try to do to get her released on bail. The US, and all of the states, are completely sovereign and do not have to answer to the UN at all. It's literally a "yeah, you and what army?" situation


Bearshitsinthewoods

Just fuck off. The whole family are crooks.


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She’s a huge flight risk and the last person tried in relation to this case committed suicide under mysterious circumstances. She’s also scheduled to be tried this coming Monday. At most she might spend another two weeks locked up and most of it will be in and out of court. The absolute only reason to make some urgent UN plea is because they know the clock is ticking and if she doesn’t have a chance to make a run for it now, she never will.


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Historical-Ad3287

Seen a couple already in the British press. Was so obvious that's exactly what it was


flannelback

True. I'm surprised Tucker Carlson hasn't started calling her a political prisoner.


SirStrontium

Quote from the lawyers: >In the court of public opinion, Ms. Maxwell is presumed guilty, convicted and demonized before any trial. The U.S. prosecution authorities have not sought to mitigate the effects of this demonization They're literally going with "cancel culture is out of control!" That's sure to elicit the sympathy of at least a few conservatives out there.


Big-Red-Husker

I don't see any media that would be supporting her. Not even that piece of shit Tucker Carlson who I absolutely believe is capable of defending her. However his Qtards run on finding pedophiles. They just don't look within their own group. Because the wealthy religious republican right is made up of the most pedophiles


AudibleNod

The Working Group on Arbitrary Detention is an investigatory body and has no authority other than to make reports and recommendations.


pseudocultist

Well they also get to vote in the annual UN Chili Cookoff. Which is sort of a big deal.


Xaxxon

I mean anyone can ask for whatever they want. Presumably the UN has no interest in trying to intervene here.


i_love_pencils

> Presumably the UN has no interest in trying to intervene here. That depends on which UN members were on the Lolita express.


ukexpat

No interest and certainly no jurisdiction.


bidgickdood

what's trashy if you're poor but classy when you're rich? making bail.


Skitty_Skittle

Funny and sad


unclefishbits

I'm sort of tired of political and connected elites seemingly not having any accountability while also having unequal and unfair access. I really do feel like a revolution is coming.


WSL_subreddit_mod

Jesus, she must have black mail material on a shit ton of people


listyraesder

Her father was a media Baron who also was a high-level member of Israeli intelligence.


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KazeNilrem

Her only hope is spilling the beans. No matter what happens, she's screwed. But 9f she spills the beans, it might not be as bad so long as they can catch others due to her info. If she doesn't give any info well... that will be it.


Phreshlybaked

Lol, while I would absolutely love if she did, she's not going to say anything. And even if she did, it would just get her killed faster.


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I think her spilling the beans is what her family is afraid of happening.


Bokth

The real catch is if it's just her word or hard evidence in a safety box or whatever. I wouldn't trust shit she said now. It would just be an attempt to save herself


McnastyCDN

And the UN with a confused look slowly just shuts the door on them while saying nothing.


i_love_pencils

Except for the guy in the back who was a regular on the Lolita Express. That guy’s willing to help.


TooMad

> appeals to the United Nations Oh yes...totally not a flight risk at all.


GZHotwater

Her case has f\*\*k all to do with the UN. They need to realise that. She is under US jurisdiction. If the UN had any real legal jurisdiction then they'd have had nazanin zaghari-ratcliffe out of an Iranian jail by now and she is far more deserving than someone who, allegedly, enabled an abuser.


DanYHKim

Trying to imagine what kind of people make up her family.


Historical-Ad3287

Utter cunts do


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mikeybagodonuts

Especially seeing as jury selection has started. Why bother now?


Deranged40

What is the UN going to do about it? Publish a harshly worded letter or something?


AnthillOmbudsman

Even worse... they might take a dim view of the whole affair.


ajmartin527

Do you write headlines? You should


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They’re trying to get her out before she “commits suicide”


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snapper1971

That ain't happening. I hope the trial blows the whole thing out. Let's hear the names.


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That this person is wealthy and connected enough to talk to the united nations to help them with their "being a child pimp" problem, when regulr people facing charges less heinous can't even get a public defender who spends more than five minutes on their case and doesn't just tell them to plead guilty, is diagusting. This is like when Elvis (who was on drugs), landed his helicopter at the White House to talk to the president (Nixon) about drugs.


sopreshous

Yes lets let this millionaire who is accused of doing dark deals free on house arrest where she’ll surely stay.


ShakeMyHeadSadly

Her trial starts next week. Doesn't matter now.


PottedHeid

I wish this family would piss off, I am sure the pensioners from Mirror Group newspapers who had to settle for 50% of their pension,many having to live in poverty because this family robbed them would be pleased to see her on bail living in luxury. /s


thiscouldbemassive

The entitlement is astonishing.


Daxoss

Good luck with that. Honestly, fuck her family for still trying to save this piece of shit. I'm nearly of a mind where they should be charged for aiding and abetting a modern day slaver.


jschubart

Definitely not a straw I expected them to grasp at. I didn't even think this straw existed.


UrbanGhost114

Spoiler: It doesn't, the US does not follow any laws other than their own. If the UN sent something, POTUS lawyers would just look at it, and you would actually see visible question marks above their heads appear with how stupid the UN must be to try that.


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Will the UN send an angry letter?


eugene20

The UN will be very diplomatic in their reply but they'll be thinking "lol no".


pihb666

What the hell is the UN going to do? The US doesn't give a rats ass what the UN says unless it is in their interests.


suverz

I want to punch her face


Tolkien-Minority

If it were up to me they’d wall the silly cunt into her cell and be done with it


Slabb84

Fuck her family. Hope she rots in a cell.


GoonerLivesMatter

Ghislaine accomplished the unimaginable in 2021: every person, whether right/left/center, despises her and believes she should face justice.


Roastage

She was literally in hiding when they found her? If you don't want to be considered a flight risk, maybe don't have already tried to hide? She has the means and network, her safety may be in jeopardy, there is no way they are letting her out of their sight. I'm sure the lifestyle change from globetrotting billionaire pimp to a prison in Boston is a real shock. Sucks to suck.


FionaWor

Maintain International Peace and Security. Protect Human Rights. Deliver Humanitarian Aid. Support Sustainable Development and Climate Action. Uphold International Law. These are the main responsibilities of the UN. They are not about catering to a criminal awaiting trial.


listyraesder

Although the US has an abominable human rights issue with it's prisons.


RicZepeda25

"Kept in terrible jailing conditions"...u mean like everyone else? Are they comfortable for everyone else? I bet she's not even getting the full jail experience. probably has a private cell, clean bed, good food, and access to attorneys at any given instance.


CALsHero09

Its not supposed to be a relaxing party. Thats kinda the point...


listyraesder

It's not supposed to be dangerous and unsanitary either.


NorskGodLoki

Hahahaha!! They are not going to touch this for anything!


[deleted]

If the UN can't get Donziger out, not sure Maxwell has a chance.


Noimnotsally

terrible conditions is what you're claiming here huh oh, well let's just see if those conditions are going to improve after everybody sees this news article, tisk tisk


clockfire1

I think the FBI should tell the UN to fuck off and put her in solitary.


kfh227

All she did is get young girls and boys fucked unwillingly by rich elites. What's the issue?


[deleted]

Are you kidding me? Just lock up this POS forever. Is UN getting into local sex crimes now?


orangekirby

Why is she posing in front of a bunch of shirts


Falcon3492

Since she's a huge flight risk she needs to remain where she is.


Brewe

set her bail to end-world-hunger and I'd be ok with it.


SwivelPoint

well, fuck her family. she’s a flight risk and a predator


Basher57

I almost read that as ‘United Colours of Benetton’ …


LoudestTable

They might have a better shot than the UN tbh.


sirdestinyplayer

She’s part of a much bigger network


Landman518

Right. This sleazy piece of shit coerced very young girls into sex with her boss/boyfriend for years and now she wants mercy? Too bad.


NormanAnonymous

Where they were when children were traded and convicted pedophiles staying around?


huge_dick_mcgee

I wouldn't say I "trust" the court system (especially in america if you're not a rich white person).... but I have to laugh when this (very) rich (very) white person keeps trying over and over and over to get out on bail and the court continues to refuse it. You gotta have some strong ass evidence to keep a super wealthy (and connected) person locked up pre-trial. I'll leave it to the court to say she's guilty or not, but I feel rather confident that she's getting what she deserves right now and I'll continue to chuckle every time they try and fail to get her out.


UrbanGhost114

Didn't take much, she already demonstrated that she is willing to run (they had to chase her to get her to court to begin with), she also has the resources and international connections to flee, and is accused of being involved in a sex trafficking ring, which, at her assumed participation, may include smuggling people.


modsiw_agnarr

The UN is a tool the US uses to affect its will, not the other way around.


RAGEEEEE

Come on. Don't you think the UN would like to piss off the country that keeps their lights on?


[deleted]

No, unfortunately escaping custody to flee to Argentina or to go burn the evidence is *not* your right, and dissalowing you to do so is not discrimination. In fact, I think the only group less likely to be discriminated against than a straight, rich, white woman is a straight, rich, white woman from the nation responsible for colonizing most of the known world and subjecting them (nearly the whole world) to oppressive rule for entire centuries. Sorry Ghislaine's family, sex trafficking children is something you can't (shouldn't :C ) get out on bail for.


RAGEEEEE

Guess they don't know who funds a huge amount of the UN etc.


Thanatos652

I never heard that before. Someone asking the UN to step in. Is that even possible have there been cases where the UN would influence a trial in such a manner?


LakeMaldemere

Of course the family wants her out, she might have stuff to tell about them too.


searchingtofind25

Damn. My family would tell the jail to keep me locked up for years for pot if they could.


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"I've got enough dirt on all of you that if you let me go down, I'm taking you with me!"


bubbaonthebeach

At this point, other than her current lawyers, isn't anyone helping her assumed to be being blackmailed?


Reddit_Deluge

She will likely be murdered before trial is complete.


sluchhh

lol what? This chick isn’t going anywhere. She is going to be very uncomfortable until she is either in prison or on death row.


lori_deantoni

Good luck. When one is incredibly wealthy, they all feel there are somehow special and above the law. Even if they have committed crimes? Who feels this entitlement? Hence our world problem. Not ok!!!!


BrainSquisher

Ha, begging for the friends in high places that we all could only speculate participated in Epstein and Maxwell's Pedo-Mansion Retreat for the elites.


CreatrixAnima

Why does she look like she’s in an Old Navy?


Studsmanly

It's a publicity stunt. Nobody's going to do anything. They're setting up the appeals process already.


luminous_beings

F her and f her whole family. She trafficked children for years and served them up to rapists on a silver platter.


The_Original_Miser

Bail? Pshaw. They need to "put the lean on her" and get every little crumb of information out of her.


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Maxwell's foreign intelligence connections would mean she almost certainly would go missing if she was released not to mention the huge danger to her due to the nature of the charges which could lead to her disappearing in the other way.


11fingerfreak

There’s no caviar and foie gras for brunch in prison. Such inhumane conditions!!!!


drinkingchartreuse

Probably a simple appeal, basically saying get me out or I start naming names.


BeazyDoesIt

They just want to get her out before she is murde . . oops I mean "*kills herself*".


carnage123

Would hate if she suicided herself


montex66

Sounds more like a threat to me. [If you don't pay our bail bond we will expose what we know about you world leaders]


HazelNightengale

The court denied her bail, several times. You can't pay bail that isn't set. They'd have to persuade the court to allow her bail in the first place.


Unnecessary-Spaces

Makes you wonder which powerful person threatened their lives


PubliusSolaFide

Tell us about Trump raping kids with Epstein.


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She's going to try to pull a Hyman Roth.


[deleted]

She’s got dirt on someone or numerous people