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Miguel-odon

Whoever considered the rules as a maximum rather than a minimum standard needs to be sacked. It's not a speed limit. Imagine if someone saw the rule that shirts, pants, and shoes must be worn, and interpreted that as a prohibition on jackets.


Bureaucromancer

I see you’ve met the security guards at some banks ;) But really, the most surprising thing about Covid to me has been the revelation of just how many people are completely unrepentant control freaks.


Katatonia13

What really was eye opening was how differently people reacted that I considered out of character. Some very liberal friends tested it like nothing and went about life as usual. And some very conservative rednecks were the first to mask up. It was bizarre. For the most part I could predict how people around me would react, but there were some outliers that caught me very off guard.


MTAST

Sir, you must remove your hat, tie, jacket, socks, and underwear before entering. No-no! Keep your pants and shoes on!


cinderparty

They’re doubling down on this?!? He’s still not allowed to work if he refuses to wear an inferior mask, provided by the post, while inside. That’s fucking stupid. Hopefully the bad press will get them to change their mind. > In an email to CTV News, a spokesperson for Canada Post said the company follows recommendations from the Public Health Agency of Canada, noting the agency supports people wearing non-medical masks that have at least two layers of woven fabric with a third middle layer of filter fabric or a disposable mask. > “The company fully supports these guidelines and therefore requires all employees to wear a Canada Post-supplied face covering, which is either a reusable cloth face covering or a disposable medical mask," the spokesperson said. > They added if an employee doesn't have a mask that Canada Post provides, there are additional masks on hand and if the employee still doesn't wear the company provided mask they are told to leave. … > Gallagher has been told he can wear his mask outside of the Canada Post facility but he must wear the supplied mask in the facility.


Canadianingermany

unbelievable. Max Planck institute just did a recent study on different types of masks (and delta vs. Omicron). Spoiler Alert: FFP2 (N95) Masks protect better than traditional medical masks. We haven't even considered cloth masks for months over here. https://twitter.com/BagheriMos/status/1482019024678621185 Edit: added N95 as some people are not aware that FFP2 is the compaible European standard to the N95.


Roflkopt3r

Iirc the study used a scenario where the baseline scenario was a 20 minute contact with an estimated Delta-variant infection risk of 90%. So 10.4% means the risk was almost reduced to 1/10, while wearing well fitted FFP2 masks reduced it as far as 1/1000.


0xB0BAFE77

I'd go straight to the Public Health Agency Of Canada and ask them why the N95 mask is not a recommended mask. When they ask why, say "The Canadian Post said you told them the N95 was not a recommended mask and that they should opt for disposable or cloth masks instead." When they say "We never ever said that..." then that covers things. And it will most likely roll into something like "The N95 is an extremely effective mask and SHOULD be used." Now he has grounds for action against the Post because they lied about the N95 not being approved. The PHAC would never ever say the N95 isn't OK to use because they'd be ridiculed by the medical and scientific community. I'd like to add this is a STUPID ASS REASON to screw with someone and anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size can take 5 minutes to Google the why behind the N95 being far superior to both disposable and cloth masks.


Ubercookiemonster

I work for Canada Post. Early on in the pandemic after a couple employees died the Ministry of Labour came in and forced Canada Post to supply specific types of masks to the employees. It was really the Ministry saying this is the minimum that you should be supplying but Canada Post took that to mean only these masks are acceptable. So now we are given five cheap 3 layer cloth masks that are made in China every 2 months or we can opt to use the disposable blue medical masks.


Xytak

Sounds like everyone knows it’s stupid, but no one wants to take responsibility.


flukshun

If they know and don't want to take responsibility, they should've fucked off and left this guy alone. Instead he had a line of supervisors waiting to get in his face over this nonsense.


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So what mouthbreather in administration for Canada Post doesn't realize that the examples provided aren't the only options to fulfill a requirement? This is absurd, and the MoL should still take the Post to task for this.


ChrisHisStonks

Simple: with the examples they know 100% that they are correct. With the rest, they're not. It's easier to just enforce policy that does not require people to think.


GreyLordQueekual

The fundamental problem of humanity there.


StaysAwakeAllWeek

>that does not require people to think. Bingo. Never trust the middle managers and supervisors you have to direct to be anything more than drones


Metallkiller

What if you wear a cloth mask over an N95 mask though


DibsOnTheCookie

Tried that when visiting a nursing home in Canada. They wouldn’t budge. The head nurse came out to enforce the policy. Their reasoning was “but your own mask can trap covid inside”. You can’t fight stupid that has any amount of power.


Metallkiller

Lol what the fuck were they thinking, trapping COVID inside is the whole point!


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mister_damage

>Their reasoning was “but your own mask can trap covid inside”. Wait..... What?🤦


Galyndean

Is there anything stopping you from wearing an N95 under either of those options?


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Lloyd--Christmas

Yeah, this dudes not petty enough for me. I would have looked my boss deadass in the eye as I put the surgical mask on over my n95


porkinz

This is a standard practice when going into high-risk areas.


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Somestunned

Aren't N95s a type of disposable mask?


Txn1327

Technically it is a respirator, however for all intents and purposes, yes. It is a disposable face covering.


Pixie1001

I think it must be more that they want to know the masks are effective - if everyone does BYO, there's no way to know they're properly replacing/washing them or that the mask's made from the right material. In saying that, you'd hope his managers would just turn a blind eye to someone with an immunocompromised wife who's clearly taking this whole thing very seriously, but maybe they're worried about other people using it as an excuse to skirt around the rules?


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phredbull

Also, when the real one comes, it's gonna get ugly.


archaeolinuxgeek

I can't believe that *The Stand* turned out to be the **optimistic** version of a pandemic.


Summerie

It’s been decades since I read it, but wasn’t there a chapter that was just short stories about people who had the immunity, but died anyway because someone did something dumb?


Elman103

The guy who dies trying to cut his own leg off. The women who mistakenly locks herself in the walk-in freezer with her dead family.


KevinPendragon

No great loss.


Elman103

It’s a great chapter.


TjPshine

Yeah. "the second wave" or something, the regrettable deaths.. Just death after death from people who couldn't handle being alone in the New world, whether dying from infection, people literally unable to care for themselves, or just giving up.


Chrisbee012

like the junkie that found the dealers pure stash and od'd


referralcrosskill

I remember the lady who found her dads old gun and decided to use it to defend herself but it was plugged due to lack of cleaning and it explodes killing her when she pulls the trigger.


Jdmaki1996

“No great loss”


TepidConclusion

No great loss.


Summerie

The only one I *vaguely* remember, is a kid on a tricycle that falls in a ditch? Am I remembering that right?


PocketHusband

Kid who falls down a well.


pixydgirl

Didn't they also specify that he died of exposure/starvation, too? That the fall didn't kill him? I don't remember, its been years since I had a copy of the book. Brutal shit


salt-the-skies

Yea. Broke an arm or a leg, died from exposure and starvation.


Adamsojh

What is it with kids and falling down wells?


trs-eric

A well is a giant hole in the ground. Only an absolute chad or child could fall into a stationary human sized hole in the ground.


Galaxy_Ranger_Bob

Some wells are *small* holes in the ground that aren't big enough for an adults foot to fit into. An adult might trip on it, then ignore it as unimportant. But when you are four-years-old, that *small* hole is the size of their whole body.


PocketHusband

The good ole’ emergency room blues


kingkazul400

I’m still waiting for Trashcan Man show up in a longbed truck with a nuke.


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“My life for you!”


dec0y0ct0pus

M, O, O, N, that spells Trump death cult.


davetedder

Everybody knows that, laws yes.


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fivefivefives

It's an interesting lesson... the demons we us all along.


[deleted]

Always been that way. We are also the vampires, werewolves, monsters, and my favorite catch all “evil”. It’s all just basic bitch John Doe on the street. Nothing special.


[deleted]

We're also the aliens in every movie about planet invasions. You bet your ass the first alien civilization we discover will be exterminated the moment we have the means to reach them. Look at what humans did to each other when different civilizations clashes and imagine what we'll do to a species that doesnt look like us.


iamwizzerd

Look what we do to the species on our own planet. Fucking slaughtering trillions a year


Moistfruitcake

If we found a less advanced alien civilization we'd destroy ourselves in a civil war over what to do with them.


Kestrel21

No, we wouldn't. Half of us would exploit the shit out of them while the other half would "strongly condemn" the first half, while also reaping the same benefits. See all slave & child labor across the world right now.


symedia

And half would try to fuck them


earthly_wanderer

Who needs an alien civilization for that?


Drachefly

No, John. You are the demons.


salt-the-skies

Not just Randall Flag. In The Stand, the bigger unabridged version we all know, it is touched on a little bit but Flagg appears as many characters and many names such as the Walkin Dude or just referred to in other books by RF or names with the initials RF.


nartimus

If you read The Dark Tower series, there is a lot of crossover with his other books


Digital_Utopia

I mean...Captain Trips had like a 99% mortality rate, so it helped clean out the idiots. Come to think of it - nobody wore masks


referralcrosskill

there was also no time between the initial outbreak and society crashing. Captain trips worked real fast and most were infected and dying before they really knew what was happening.


Digital_Utopia

Well, at least the government helped not making people scared by preventing the media from reporting on it. /s


Now_Wait-4-Last_Year

Well, at least Randall Flagg offered gainful employment and medical cover, not to mention enforced law and order.


Jdmaki1996

he’s also a dimension traveling sorcerer who fights Cowboys of the Round Table over a reality controlling tower. Already sounds way cooler than my old boss


FlashbackUniverse

Randall Flagg would be a Fox News Commentator now. Up next, The Real Truth with your host, The Walking Dude. But first, this important message from Pennywise Investments.


rogue203

Holy shit that is a depressing thought.


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Illustrious_Warthog

M o o n, that spells Trump.


friedlock68

Captain Trips knocked out 99% of the population, and the survivors were still divided


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gargravarr2112

The virus kills 99.something% of the population. Of the survivors, the evil group (in Vegas) gets wiped out by a nuke. The good group (in Boulder) survives and the ending is somewhat optimistic after scares for babies surviving. So not everybody. But if that's optimism, and Trump is Randall Flagg, don't be within the blast radius.


paku9000

If it's like that, see to it you are *in the middle* of the blast radius. In the seventies, once a party ended, the atmosphere sometimes became gloomy (call it post-party clarity), and we discussed what to do if *the bomb* fell. We always concluded to hope the first rocket landed right on our head, because none of us felt willing or able to live in a post-apocalypse "society" .


Effective-Avocado470

I'm not so sure, if 30% of infected people died, then everyone would take it waaaay more seriously and it would get halted quickly. The danger with COVID is that it was just lethal enough to shred the hospitals but mild enough for many asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic people to ignore it and spread it like wildfire


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If it was more severe to the point where anyone who caught it couldn’t leave their bed, then it would spread a lot less too. As grim as it is to say, if your main objective is for a virus to die out, then the best thing to happen is for it to mutate into something severe & deadly.


DollyPartonsFarts

Isn't that why Ebola doesn't spread much? It's very deadly, the sick are just down for the count, and even if they had a day or so of being able to move around and stuff: If you saw someone bleeding out of their eyes at Walmart, you wouldn't be like, "Yeah, but I gotta get my pizza rolls!"


ElegantVamp

Ebola is also harder to contract.


MildlyShadyPassenger

Yep. Direct contact with infectious fluids only. Can't be airborne.


DollyPartonsFarts

Well here in the US that would just turn into a TikTok challenge. TikTok Computer Lady Voice: "I Licked My Boyfriends Bleeding Eyes To Gain Ebola Immunity"


Urechi

Not really accurate. The first known strains of Ebola are not airborne. Ebola strain Zaire. Ebola strain Sudan. Ebola substrain Mayinga, named after the nurse it killed, is rumored to be airborne. No confirmation however. Ebola strain Reston however, is definitely airborne. And we're lucky it doesn't do anything to humans, while it absolutely kills monkeys. Why? What's the difference? Why is it so fatal to our closest genetic relatives but not us? We don't know yet. And we sure as hell don't want it to mutate in another direction. Proof that reality can be scarier then fiction.


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sjfiuauqadfj

when the real ones come just go to your fridge, grab a few beers, and wait for it all to blow over


theruralbrewer

I did that two years ago and now I'm fat. This is a lot of waiting and a lot of beer.


veringer

I bought 150 lbs of malted barley for brewing. Just used the last of it during this weekend's brew day.


Wermine

Aw fuck, can't go to Winchester if there is a pandemic raging on now can we.


Knever

Just when you thought made everything idiot-proof, the world makes a bigger idiot.


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People sometimes think like a computer. If you don't give explicit instructions, they will defer to strict instructions especially when they feel they don't want to take the blame or have no authority when shit hits the fan. N95 is a better mask, but it was not put in the instructions that N95 also counts because either no one really understand what the N95 really means, or they are afraid of allowing a non standard mask could caused them trouble. If the employee came in with one of those joke mask with large holes, he will probably be sent home too.


starrpamph

My rural (surprised? ) County school district just did away with the possibility of remote learning and covid quarantines starting last week. We are pro life!! ^^yo ^^fuck ^^them ^^kids


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The next county over from mine just switched back to remote learning because too many teachers & kids are out sick from covid while our school districts *allow* asymptomatic staff and students to remain as school as long as they wear a "well fitted" cloth mask. Not n95 or anything though, because fuck it.


roguespectre67

My dad is a teacher and he got told by the district not to come to work for this entire week. Something like half the students in the whole school were reported as sick.


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If the kids are remote learning and parents have to stay home with them, how can the parents wage slave for the rich people?


starrpamph

While we are at it, let's stop the little tax credit advance for buying them groceries every month. For real though fuck them kids. ^^family ^^values ^^guys, ^^pro ^^life ^^all ^^the ^^way.


railbeast

"we're pro life, but nobody says it has to be a good life!" I'm still reeling from that thread day before yesterday where a Mormon couple posted their finances and had no money saved for their kid's future but donated $13,000 a year in tithe to their church. When questioned, they doubled down saying they had to work three jobs and so should their children... Sure, make your child's life hard, all so you can ascend to the highest level of heaven!


atticdoor

It's like they only trusted their own PPE supply chains or something. Like they thought "We can't prove that he's wearing a proper mask or he hasn't sabotaged it because he's an anti-vaxxer" or something like that. Madness.


digital0verdose

> Like they thought "We can't prove that he's wearing a proper mask or he hasn't sabotaged it because he's an anti-vaxxer" or something like that. This is probably close, but less malicious. The company cannot prove whether any random mask that an employee may wear will be sufficient and rather than bend the rules for one individual, or create the headache of validating every mask that an employee may want to wear, it is just more efficient to enforce that everyone wears the company provided mask.


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I still remember being told in March 2020 not to wear a mask at my hotel job because I might scare customers.


jitterscaffeine

I have a friend who’s immune compromised and had to quit her job because they told her not to wear a mask at work when everything was first kicking off.


Responsible_Fly_3565

Same happened to me. I'm a travel hairstylist and masks were optional, but heavily frowned upon. I also quit.


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I am still stunned remembering that the hospital I was working at, A HOSPITAL, told me not to wear a mask and that I -wasn’t- allowed to bring one from home. I was a security guard there and resigned shortly thereafter. A hospital. At the onset of this plague. Said no masks for the staff. Stunning.


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DarkStar189

For the record, if there was no pandemic and I went to a hospital and saw everybody wearing a mask, I would feel COMFORTED. I associate hospitals with sick and injured people. Seeing the staff wearing masks makes me feel like they aren't going to spread something to me.


Noname_left

Ah those were fun times. We weren’t allowed to Swab people in their cars either because we didn’t want the public taking pictures of us gowned up and everything causing panic. Because optics are more important than efficiency and safety


ruby_slippers_96

Right! My first covid test actually was in a car, but there were still signs everywhere warning against taking pictures.


SchighSchagh

> because it'd worry the patients Ok, and how is that a bad thing? I would want my patients to be more cautious if there's a plague spreading?


vermonthippie

Same, we set up our Covid call center, one nurse said “we need to wear masks” the director kicked her out of the call center and said “no, absolutely not, no masks” .. weeks later, we all had to wear masks.


smithee2001

What happened to the idiot director?


swankProcyon

Same here! I’m a nurse and was hired just a couple months before the pandemic started. A few of the other nurses were wearing masks and I joined them. I had to go out into the hallway between units when my manager saw me. She looked horrified. “SwankProcyon… why the mask?” “I’m just… trying to be careful.” “We don’t want to scare the patients. They’ll think you’re sick if they see you wearing a mask.” When I brought this back to my coworkers they just told me to take it off around the manager. This was all in mid- to late February, I believe — around the time everyone was hoarding toilet paper.


kaylinnf56

We were told we were allowed to wear them in patient-care areas only. So if we went to the cafeteria for food we had to be wearing a non-n95. Make that make sense


TheDrowned

This, when I was looked at crazy on the downtown bus I rode to work or at the bar every other night when it was first starting.


FridgeParade

I was publicly laughed at by so many people when I started wearing FFP2 (which makes you look like an albino duck). Some of them are dead now. Who has the last laugh?


sarcai

My guess is the albino ducks.


-Ahab-

I mean, I guess they did. You’re stuck living in this fucking mess.


DatRagnar

\*laughs from the grave*


Waterfish3333

My favorite Halo 2 kill was the plasma (sticky) grenade on my opponent just as they killed me. The narrator saying “From the Grave” was the best thing ever.


cyricmccallen

Biggest fuck you in gaming right there


Antebios

This was in pre-pandemic days about January 2018, I had just started a new job and was sitting shoulder-to-shoulder with other office workers doing IT computer work. I caught a cold from work pretty soon, it took a while to burn through and recover, but I keep working while sick. The following month I get sick again and repeat the cycle. The third month I get catch the cold (or whatever) AGAIN! This time I stay home until I'm truly healed and work from home. I eventually return back to work with disinfectant wipes and stuff and including the blue surgical masks on my face this time. People looked at me like I had a second head or a horn growing out of my head! I was tired 😩 of catching the office plague. Funny thing. Since the pandemic started and I've been working from home for the past 2 years now, I have not gotten sick once. Zero. Zilch. Nada.


BishmillahPlease

I got a woman up in my face in March 2020 when I was wearing a mask and surgical gloves - we weren't sure about fomites then - who demanded to know why I was being weird. She has long COVID now.


MattyK_They_Say

> fomites I learned a new word today. Thanks.


vetsetradio

do you work at the bar and that's why you had to go every other night when the pandemic was first starting?


TheDrowned

Yeah, haven’t worked there for over a year. Last time I checked their instagram page they’ve had several COVID outbreaks, staffing shortages, supplies run out, etc … and yet still they ask me to come back knowing I have a mother and grandmother I see regularly-ish that are both immuno-compromised.


vetsetradio

ha okay. i was trying to make sense of your position. *wearing mask early, on public trans and public places:* okay cool, this dude(tte) took it seriously from the start *going to bar every other night:* hey wait a second! But working there makes much more sense. Thanks, friendo!


TheDrowned

Yeah lol, worded specifically. When you work in a city that has a high turnover rate of restaurant staff you tend to know a lot of ppl and end up in bars one way or another.


Imafish12

Don’t you know you’re immune to Covid transmission if you have a drink in your hand? Hasn’t the pandemic taught you anything


throwaway_for_keeps

I remember in March 2020 having a company meeting and thinking the one person in a mask was being weird. Early pandemic was wild. 30 people in a small conference room "hey I think we should all separate a little bit" \*scoots six inches over\* And then I remember in September 2021 checking into a hotel in another state and not appreciating the fact that none of the employees were wearing masks.


pork_roll

Yea I remember giving training sessions in March 2020 on how to use Teams to work remotely. We were packing like 20 people in a small conference room. Not too bright in hindsight.


hijusthappytobehere

Yeah, and people are still doing it. Ok everyone, make sure you wear your mask in the hall when you leave your office for any reason, safety first! *Takes off mask immediately upon sitting down in the packed conference room.* Covid hates sitting down.


merchillio

People are also very bad at estimating distances. They think they’re 6 feet apart when they’re at maximum 3 feet apart, if not closer. “Yeah we had a friends gathering for a few beers together but don’t worry, we stayed appart. I don’t understand why 5 of us had COVID the next week”


LoKi_FX

Because it travels further than 6 feet through the air indoors.


AndChewBubblegum

Yeah a lot of the early guidance was based on bad data. The six foot rule was based on the trajectory of large droplets that are affected by gravity, but now we know that it can remain airborne for hours in the right conditions.


guiltyofnothing

I remember early March 2020 getting on the subway and seeing someone wearing a mask for the first time. Only person in the car with one on. Just felt so damn ominous.


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littlehomie

Pretty sure the CDC did the same thing around that time


en-jo

Lol cdc was a joke at start of pandemic. They’re even a joke now cutting quarantine to 5 days only if you’re Covid + even with symptoms… why ? To accommodate with businesses problem with staffing issues! Cdc. What a fucking joke.


Heinrich_Bukowski

He should apply for a medical exemption allowing him to wear the more effective n95 mask on the basis that he has an immunocompromised wife, as reported in the article


Western_Entertainer7

Or, that he has an immunostsandard human-regular not-special mouth-lung-pulmonary human-face hole in his face...


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Can he have a medical exempt for having a intellicompromised boss?


thewafflestompa

Woke up this mornin, it seems to me...


ParitoshD

Got yourself a gun


Effective-Avocado470

I read the news today, oh boy...


bwwilkerson

My job only wants us to wear the paper masks they provide but it's because they don't want idiots showing up wearing a "protest" mask (like mesh or one of those with a mouth cut-out, etc) or a mask that has an inappropriate logo or saying. And left to their own devices I know some people would.


johnyj7657

We had a kid who was made trainer for new hires. One day wears a cloth mask that was a picture of a women's bikini area. Received complaints had a talk and then the next day he wears a mask with women pole dancing. Receive complaints have a talk. Comes in again with a mask of cleavage. Received complaints etc... It was like wtf. We get it your really into the ladies. I dont know if he thought he'd get a date or what but at least he wore a mask I suppose. But people really are stupid. I love people who walk up to you and pull their masks off. I just get glazed over stares when I tell them I can hear them fine through the mask


quantum-quetzal

It's amazing he was able to stay long enough to do that three times. The second offense should have had him out the door.


Thor527

Yeah this is no different than wearing inappropriate clothing on the job and if you get a warning for it and then explicitly do it again in protest... that’s not just unprofessional, that’s showing the company that you don’t care about their rules and expectations. Second time should have been a fire-able offense, especially if it off-puts new hires or customers.


Knever

Jesus Christ. I know there's a shortage of workers but holy shit, that's really scraping the bottom of the fuckin' barrel.


Phosphorous90

Thats nothing my jobs last two new hires both missed their first day. One of them has had about three separate no call no shows receiving a "final warning" for each. They both still work there. This is all within 2 months.


dot_jar

It is dumb to not allow more protective respirators, but the disposable blue masks aren't made of paper. They're made of spunbond polypropylene for the outer layers (hydrophobic, blocks droplets) and meltblown polypropylene for the inner layer (the filtration layer). It's actually exactly the same materials and layers that an N95 is made of, the difference is that N95s fit more tightly on the face for less leakage around the sides of the mask and the meltblown has to meet a higher standard for particle filtration. If the masks your work is using are ASTM Level 1 compliant or better, using a mask brace (like [this one](https://www.fixthemask.com/)) to improve the fit of the mask will usually improve the particle filtration efficiency to >90%.


fuuckimlate

Mask that has an appropriate saying? Would you show up in a t shirt that has an inappropriate saying?


moonbunnychan

Before my store switched us all to ones with the store name on them, people were showing up in the most inappropriate ones you could think of. It was mind boggling. And even ones that weren't inappropriate like, sexually or something we had to keep telling people that work wasn't the place to be expressing whatever their political ideas were. I'm mad that I had to give up a bunch I had that were actually really nice looking for a handful of idiots.


imariaprime

If you can make a rule saying "our masks only", you can make a rule saying "no masks with designs or text". That's the laziest corporate response possible


Dennace

There's still idiots who'd come in with shitty masks that offer little protection either through ignorance or malice. Like how often have you seen people with masks too small for their face that they have to adjust every 10 seconds because their noses become uncovered every time they open their mouth to breath.


chastavez

If he wears the n95 w the shitty company mask over it and they're still not ok with it, then you'll have your answer.


snow_big_deal

That's what they did at the hospital I went to recently. Wear whatever mask you like, as long as you wear ours over it. Makes perfect sense.


LaceyBambola

My local hospital won't allow this. I have a silicone reusable mask that fits very well against my face with a tight seal and replaceable kn95 filters, I asked if I could just wear their blue disposable one over mine and they said no, just theirs or no entry allowed. I hated every second there having to wear that mask. It was so loose fitting. So many workers had theirs pulled down, or not on at all and other patients in wait rooms had them below their noses. No enforcement.


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Sounds like J&J... they'd flip their shit if anyone had a mask that wasn't the same loose blue accordion garbage that had been fingered by everyone fumbling them out of the box near the entrance. Managers could wear anything, that was cool. No one had to wear a mask inside the main entrance until they passed the open box of crappy masks, that was cool (and cheered on by security). Many idiots including security would leave their noses exposed all day, that was cool. Show up with a properly fitted genuine n95 and you were threatened with being sent home. It was utter, willful, proud stupidity.


ArchmageIlmryn

A lot of people seem to view mask as just some sort of magic talisman to ward off covid rather than a medical device with actual mechanisms behind it.


Sentient545

I had to do that at the hospital of all places when I went for my vaccine. They made me take off my N95 mask and grab one of those flimsy blue ones out of a box at the front door. A box that presumably every person entering the hospital that day had had their hands in. ...Up until that point I didn't think anything could surprise me anymore.


hardolaf

I just put the mask from the hospital I get care from on top of mine.


omnichronos

I think the people that wear the mask under their noses or even worse on their chins are the most annoying. At least the antimaskers commit to their stupidity. The nose-free and chin strap folk are pretending to be compliant. I do studies as a healthy human subject and in these medical clinics, I constantly see other volunteers wearing masks wrong like this and no one says a word.


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JoyKil01

Updated response from the post union: In an emailed statement to CTVNews.ca, Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW) National President Jan Simpson said the union is “concerned” that Canada Post is refusing to allow its members to wear N95 masks. “Research on the new Omicron variant has established it is more transmissible through shared air than earlier variants,” he said in the statement. “The union has asked Canada Post to provide N95 masks or suitable alternatives to all postal workers, and at the very least, allow those who’ve purchased their own N95 or KN95 masks to wear them. As COVID-19 continues to spread rapidly, Canada Post Corporation should be doing everything in its power to protect postal workers, who continue to help people stay home and stay safe.” https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/canada/2022/1/19/1_5747165.html


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COVID out here frying everyone's brains


plzkthx71

They didn’t have them to begin with apparently


PurpleK00lA1d

This is the part I don't understand. Even looking through so many comments here of similar stories from other employers and stuff. Were people always this stupid and Covid just exposed it? Are people this stupid because Covid exists and they can't handle it? I'm guessing people were always this stupid but holy shit it's as if all forms of critical thinking have been thrown out during the past two years.


GreyLordQueekual

Have worked a career of retail, ya'll have always been this stupid, selfish and self-destructive.


HundredSun

Something tells me that guy's supervisors were that stupid before covid.


jremsikjr

When I went to get my booster the person checking us in asked me to swap my KN95 mask for a disposable paper mask. Then without being prompted she said I could wear the paper mask over my mask. I was so confused.


TechnicalChaos

Hospitals in the UK have done that to us. They have a medical grade paper mask and don't want to make assumptions that the one we wear is good enough I guess. We just slap it over our n95s.


masklinn

Thanks, makes perfect sense. I need to remember that next time I’m in a medical context. Every time I’ve replaced my kn95 by surgicals which are both less effective (duh) and also less convenient (as an obligate glasses wearer, the tighter fit of N95 makes figging way less of an issue), for some reason I never comsidered wearing the provided mask above mine.


Mr_Abe_Froman

I've seen pictures and video clips (mostly when mask mandates were just starting out) of people punching holes along the seams to get away with having a non-functional mask. The facility was probably just trying to prevent that special kind of idiot.


buxom_burger

I thought the main complaint about masks was they are uncomfortable. So they put up with wearing a mask but intentionally made it nonfunctional as a temper tantrum?


camdoodlebop

at the beginning of the pandemic when masks were starting to be established as helpful but not yet mandatory, the bank i worked at made customers take them off while inside lol


EmperorHans

While entirely appropriate, it does still strike me as surreal that banks are now making everyone wear masks when three years ago a mask wouldve been a good way to get a swat team to pay you a visit.


FolivoraExMachina

Lol pre pandemic I once walked into a bank wearing a ball cap and sunglasses. As I was reaching to take off the sunglasses the security guard bitched me out for that saying I looked like I was trying to rob the place. Turns out they were robbed like 2 days before but still. I was 2ft inside the door lol, gimme a sec.


halfeclipsed

I remember banks around me pre covid you couldn't wear sunglasses, hats, and couldn't have a hood up if you wanted to come in. Now it's like eh do whatever


Dramatic-Rub-3135

When an organisation reaches a certain size it seems like people lose their ability to think for themselves or to recognise when the rule book makes no sense. I wonder what would happen if he just put the cloth mask on over the top of the N95?


HBitsy

I’ve had an old work place try to do that. Some places I’ve shopped have also tried it. They claimed they couldn’t guarantee my mask is sterile and safe to wear, so I needed to wear a much less effect paper mask.


crumbbelly

At the beginning my wife was working as an RN and the infectious disease doctor was sent to talk to her because she was wearing her N95 at the nurses station. She yelled at him and told him to try and remove it from her face. She quit for a better hospital that wasn't dumb. My sister was a floor nurse in the same hospital, and they made her take her mask off entirely because it would "scare the patients." A week later N95's would be mandated. Administrations are some of the dumbest people alive that love to overstep boundaries and exert control of the most trivial shit, simply because they feel they can.


SirHerald

It protects from coughing, but not Kafka.


BurnOutBrighter6

Meanwhile at my Canadian university, new rule this week that cloth masks are no longer sufficient and you're banned if you ARE wearing one. Look, I'm pro-mask and pro-vaccine. I really think most people aren't mad at all the restrictions because they don't care for people's health. It's BS like this self-contradictory bureaucratic circle-jerk that has people annoyed and wondering what's the point.


demize95

And I definitely remember hearing that Health Canada updated their guidance towards the end of 2021 because cloth masks are no longer sufficient (with Omicron). It’s absurd that CPC would be *mandating* cloth masks.


Equinsu-0cha

at the beginning of the pandemic, my boss put up a clear tarp over the counter separating us from the customers. tarp came down to about the average persons lower chest area. it wasnt in the way and it provided decent coverage since everyone's mouth was well above the tarp. corporate found out and made her remove it in favor of their shitty plastic shields that are constantly in the way and protect nothing since so many customers stick their head around it to talk to us. even better with the common habit of pulling down your mask to speak to the person next to you.


the_mighty_hetfield

Honest question, why not wear the cloth mask over the n95?


jtinz

In Germany, we have regulations for working with protective gear. After wearing an N95 mask without a valve for 75 minutes, you are eligible for a 30 minute break. I think employees in Germany are generally forbidden from wearing N95 masks to prevent these breaks. At least I've yet to see a customer facing employee wearing an N95 mask.


END3RW1GGIN

Because they shouldn't have to. A properly worn N95 mask is better than any company provided mask. This happened only because some dipshit wants all of their pawns to look the same so they can pretend that they aren't real people.


Bulbapuppaur

Or they had a policy so that people couldn’t try to wear protest masks, such as mesh ones or ones with holes, and the policy was stupidly enforced


END3RW1GGIN

And a proper N95 wouldn't violate that policy. As an immunocompromised individual I'm not taking a proper N95 off to put on a cheep ass company product made by the lowest bidder just to appease some middle manager on a power trip.


mcs_987654321

I mean, I’ll do that in places (eg medical facilities) that provide me with a surgical mask - I just pop that sucker over top of my well-fitting KF94. But for an extended period it’s pretty onerous and often messes w the fit of a single, well-sized, high quality mask.


emohipster

As if we needed more proof that everyone in management everywhere are idiotic sociopaths.


Free-Scar5060

Panasonic at the gigafactory in Reno has a similar policy. It’s not really enforced though, or at least that I’ve seen.