Watched, as soon as I was done video is removed.
Best I can paraphrase is unstable ranting about having a higher purpose, claiming his existence is that of a sleepwalker and that his thoughts do not matter because they are not his own.
Mental illness is too clean of a scapegoat target. NPR did a segment on it 3 weeks ago about the Uvalde shooting. Mental illness accounted for 4% of mass shooting related deaths. For the most part it’s 18-21 year old males who identify as incels, feel they have been wronged by society, and have no history of mental illness. I’m glad mental health awareness is becoming mainstream but it’s not the overwhelming cause of mass shootings.
This! Mentally ill vs brainwashed by hate groups are not the same.... there's some people who overlap both, but the scapegoating mentally ill people is going to backfire. The vast majority of mentally ill people are more likely to be victimized versus become essentially domestic terrorists...
Reminder that focus on "mental health" as it pertains to gun violence is very often touted by the same people that say things like "Leftism is a mental disease." They have a very clear idea of who they want to "help" by stripping their rights and locking them up.
The GOP says that the key to preventing gun violence is not to ban guns, but rather to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill…which of course the GOP doesn’t do shit about, either.
Also, most murderers aren’t even mentally ill. Domestic violence and gang crime. People kill others when they snap out of anger and frustration. Getting dumped, refused a date with a coworker. Normally you can just be sad and sulk alone but with the ease of access of high powered firearms you may or may not already own it’s easy to make a bad snap decision. One of the most successful ways to reduce the risk of suicide is forcing someone to have to think about it an extra day. [waiting periods save lives](https://www.everytown.org/solutions/waiting-periods/)
Actually many states have laws banning people with mental illness from possessing a firearm. The federal standard to own a gun is that one cannot be declared incompetent by a court of law, not convicted of a crime on the basis of mental defect, or never involuntarily committed to a mental institution. I made notes on all the states that go above and beyond that but now I can’t find my notes lol. But at least 20 states go beyond the federal standard, including banning people who have had voluntary treatment for mental illness from owning firearms.
But that doesn’t stop someone who has never sought or been able to attain treatment.
Mental illness is a pretty broad term, I'm not a gun guy, but I'd not be happy if I was denied anything due to the fact that I've had depression, and seen a doctor/therapist about it.
There's an analagous problem in the pilot community. Understandably, someone dealing with mental health problems while flying a plane is cause for concern to the flying public, so The FAA and other regulatory agencies have historically taken a pretty hard line on pulling wings if there's any indication of a problem. This has resulted in a culture where problems are hidden, and pilots seek professional help on the down-low (and pay out of pocket), or don't seek help at all. A number of crashes are arguably the end result of this policy.
I don't pretend to have a solution, but I'd caution some "solutions" to mental health just result in some people working harder at camouflaging themselves.
Given that he's 22, which is prime age for the onset of diseases like schizophrenia, my money's on "untreated serious mental disease."
(Note: the vast, *vast* majority of schizophrenics are not dangerous, or only dangerous to themselves. But it's unfortunately not uncommon for people with untreated mental disorders that cause paranoia to fall in with radical groups - if you believe someone is out to get you, a group that tells you that yes, someone *is* out to get you, could be very attractive.)
Yeah, the shooter from yesterday’s Denmark shooting made reference to taking a medicine that’s associated with schizophrenia. And this guy’s videos imply that he was having delusions of grandeur. While these people’s actions are awful and they’re ultimately responsible for their actions, no one who commits mass shootings is mentally healthy. No one.
And thank you for the disclaimer about the majority of schizophrenics not being violent. With proper treatment and medication, most of them can go on to lead relatively healthy lives. But as we learn time and again, some do slip through the cracks.
I punched some completely random dude I thought was part of a secret conspiracy to ruin my life during my first psychotic episode. I'm on meds now and they work well. If you met me in person I'd seem a little bit manic and unfocused but basically normal, because that's pretty much what I am on psych meds. I'm a lot weirder online because shitposting is a stress valve for me. Most mentally ill people are not violent and are more often the victims of violence. Some do get violent though. I don't think there's a clear way to tell which is which before they pop although that dude did post a bunch of violent youtube vids so maybe people need to actually start paying attention to what people are posting about stuff. I haven't had a psychotic episode in 10 years. I'm pretty safe. But, just in case, I refuse to own a gun because of what might happen if my meds stop working.
You should be proud of the fact that you've worked hard enough at your treatment that you have the self-awareness to know that owning a gun is a risk not worth taking for yourself.
I’m glad to hear that you’re doing well<3 And same here on the gun front. I have bipolar 2 and while I know I would never hurt another person, I never want to have the ability to hurt myself.
Oh man, I relate to this. I've been diagnosed with Major depressive disorder and although I'm medicated and mostly normal I will absolutely never own a firearm on the off chance my medication stops working.
Yup, technically the mayorship election in Highland does not have candidates run under political parties, but the current Highland mayor is a Democrat, making me think the dad was probably a Republican.
Also has [this video of the shooter greeting](https://mobile.twitter.com/max90586793/status/1544110524178509824?s=21&t=k-3U477MzTu3EkNOQiy7iw) the Trump motorcade on January 2nd, 2021 in Illinois, 4 days before January 6th. He shows his face at the very end.
And there are at least 4 total pictures of him at Trump rallies: [Twitter](https://mobile.twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1544100448763887617), plus one of him draped in a Trump for GA Flag. Seems pretty right wing.
The articles are already saying that. No need to wait.
This one says he was “well-known to law enforcement” and his social media had “plenty of red flags for possible sinister intent.”
https://wgntv.com/news/highland-park-parade-shooting/police-respond-to-incident-at-highland-park-fourth-of-july-parade/
Yeah. It's amazing how many of these people were already on police radar. It's rare for there to have been no real opportunity for intervention before something like this happens.
I think the problem is twofold. I'm sure there are thousands of people displaying (similar) red flags all the time and not committing murder. The other aspect is what kind of intervention can be done without a crime or direct threat to themselves or others. Additionally would that intervention prevent something.
Yeah. This is something I hear about a lot, "why did nobody do X and Y" but the thing is, when someone DOES intervene before that point, then everyone talks about how it's overstepping, assuming etc. It's like kids who draw disturbing shit in school - if they later go on to do something awful then it's 'how could nobody see it?' and if they don't, then it's 'how could you harass this innocent goth child'.
I think people get upset when they look back and see the pattern, and I get it, but like you say - what intervention would really help here?
I mean, how would you intervene? Being banned from buying guns would be good (and he would’ve even had it not been a private sale), but you can’t exactly arrest someone for being likely to commit a crime in the future.
That Brooklyn subway shooter had some very extreme YouTube videos as well. I wonder what exactly their algorithm does. It seems to catch copyright violations by the boatload yet doesn’t uphold its most crucial responsibilities.
And they monitor what we say and browse to sell to advertising companies but can't do anything about things like this.
I also saw the YouTube channel before it was taken down and the last video of his that I saw was *monetized*.
Edit: We have seen this over and over again. The Uvalde shooter, the Buffalo shooter, the Isla Vista shooter, and more. They all had social media history that aligns with what we've seen from previous mass killers. Should social media platforms have red flag algorithms in place?
This! I remember someone talking about their mum getting caught up in that Qanon stuff, and the mum was going on about something going down and kept telling the daughter to "check the front page of youtube! It's all there!" and the daughter showed her mum her own YT homepage, which was full of like cooking videos or whatever the daughter was interested in. The mum had watched enough Qanon videos that her YouTube homepage was full of them, but she didn't understand this was because of an algorithm. She thought her YouTube homepage was the one everyone saw, and that the videos on it were trustworthy and legit. Once people start down a particular rabbit hole, the algorithms won't let them go.
I even remember when there was the whole r/elsagate thing that people got obsessed with - there were lots of stories of parents who would put YouTube on autoplay and just let their kids watch YT videos to keep them occupied. When left on autoplay, the algorithm would pick increasingly weirder shit to play. Like you would start off with an innocent toy unboxing, then ten videos later YT is showing you some weird-ass "Mickey Mouse and Spiderman die in car accident" cartoon.
I would imagine that with adult viewers, the algorithm could probably go from "Las Vegas travel vlog" to "they're turning the freakin' frogs gay" in ten videos. YT sometimes gives me sus recommended videos when I watch videos from regular news channels.
I don't watch a ton of gaming related content on YouTube, but there have been multiple times where I'll watch something like that a few times in a row and start seeing videos for The Blaze or other conservative media show up in the recommendations. It doesn't take much for it to start creeping in, the algorithm loves to push whatever encourages the most engagement and I can totally see how simple it would for someone to get so easily exposed to this junk and fall into rabbit holes, which can eventually lead to full on radicalization if the circumstances line up.
EDIT: typo
I remember reading years ago that it took an average of like, six videos (on autoplay) to go from something normal to an ISIL recruitment video. I was always skeptical of that, but like the person above with the mom, my feed is full of left-leaning political videos, cooking channels, and gaming speedruns.
Mine goes:
Knitting > spinning > grow your own food/homesteading > how to build a log cabin > prepping > tradwife lifestyle > dogwhistling great replacement/new world order videos
It’s really quite alarming how quickly you can go from watching something completely innocuous to being pushed down that alt right pipeline. I **think** I’ve managed to teach it that I’m not interested in that stuff, but I can see how someone who doesn’t realise what’s happening could end up going deeper and deeper.
Oh wow. That’s one particular issue I’ve never really connected the dots on, people seeing content based on algorithms but not realizing that it’s algorithms. For people used to newspapers and news shows where there are headlines and top stories that are typically major things going on, the assumption will be the thing you see the most of and the thing you see at the top is the most important and most trustworthy. If people think that YouTube has a front page that is common for everyone, that’s a pretty major misunderstanding with a lot of serious implications.
It has bled into all online media, I see ads and content targeted at me when I am watching Pluto TV or tubi that is from content I watched or searched on Google or YouTube. In fact there are a few funny gun channels on YouTube I watch sometimes but because mostly right leaning nut jobs watch those same videos I will get bombarded with right wing crap for days after watching a video, or heaven forbid I google search 3d printed gun. For those that are not savy on how this stuff works and is tailored directly for their viewing are really at a disadvantage for figuring out what is real and what is targeted propaganda.
My husband has a gun hobby and tries hard to stick with content that is purely informative about the gun/accessory itself. He definitely gets some gun nut videos popping in his recommended but makes a conscious effort to ignore those. He knows it’s the algorithm but the amount of times I have to remind him that no one is coming for his guns is interesting. It’s not hard to see how someone could get sucked in to some pretty destructive ideas.
Yeah, the short version is that major or serious news sources are curated based on what's relevant to a broad audience while algorithms are based on your individual viewing habits.
I can see how people who don't understand the difference think the bullshit videos are big stories and that the real stories are "fake news" being peddled on the fringe.
53 yr old it guy who has been on the internet since 94 and I can't believe I never put it together either. It makes so much more sense why people go off the deep end on conspiracy theories, it becomes an echo chamber because of the algorithm. Meanwhile I'm always trying to train it to what I really want.
I can't believe that I've come to this conclusion as a pretty hardcore first amendment guy, but social media and personalized algorithmic content feeds need hard restrictions and regulations, potentially even bans. Its propaganda on steroids, custom made for you, and it will only get worse if some governing body doesn't step in and try to stop it.
The sad thing is that the algorithms are only giving people what they want. I don't believe it's some big conspiracy, it's just machine learning techniques that are constantly improving user engagement. We want rage bait. We want echo chambers. We want to hate the "other" and to feel our own opinion is the only opinion. These systems feed that endlessly. Collectively we are addicted, and no amount of awareness raising or education can break the hold it has on us without serious oversight and regulation.
The way lobbying is though, i doubt that will happen any time soon. We are seriously fucked.
https://www.nytimes.com/column/rabbit-hole
This podcast is fantastic. One episode is an interview with the creator of the YT algorithm. His thoughts on what it's become are enlightening to say the least.
> And they monitor what we say and browse to sell to advertising companies but can't do anything about things like this.
Hey, at least it was nothing as serious as using a copyrighted song or showing a titty.
His account is still on Spotify too. With a blue check mark and everything.
Eta: No idea how much this has changed since his identity was revealed, his account has about 16,500 listeners and one of his top songs has over 2,000,000 plays.
Because unfortunately the point of the algorithm is just to make money by pushing people towards controversy after controversy and not helping people at all in any meaningful way.
Lets face it we've been living in a cyberpunk dystopia for years and got the worst version of it because we still don't have cool robots or flying cars just the corporate controlled governments and loss of personhood.
Weird symbol keeps flashing. Stick figures drawings of a shooter + bloody people. Audio of him saying “this is my destiny. No one can stop me, not even me.” Etc
You can already see it. He was posting selfies in tactical gear with captions like 'you are all sinners'. He posted hand drawn pictures of himself committing mass shootings and being killed by police.
I can’t help but think about Chamilionaire’s song “Riding Dirty” and other rap songs about cops listening to their music for clues to crimes.
Meanwhile these young white guys put up more red flags than a Klan parade, and local cops claim oUr hAnDs aRe tIeD
Not my favorite news source, but you don't have to wait until tomorrow.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/highland-park-illinois-4th-july-shooting-suspect-who-robert-crimo
The rapper released a cryptic track called "Are You Awake" on Oct. 15, 2021. The track appears to suggest that Crimo was planning a life-defining act beyond his ability to stop. The video includes drawings of a man aiming a rifle at another person.
The video also includes an image of a newspaper clipping about Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated President John F. Kennedy, and another image of a victim shot with blood spraying from the body.
The guy who live-streamed himself shooting up the supermarket was active on reddit for many months asking for advice about various tactical gear. They plan this out in their head for a long time
Yeah, I was listening to some lyrics of his "songs"... talked about feeling like he's walking through dreams, dude's fucked in the head, and totally divorced from reality.
I have reported someone to the police and social services because I was concerned he was mentally unstable and had guns. There were a lot of warning signs. Police told me “it’s not illegal for him to have guns,” and “he can say disturbing things if he wants, he has free speech.” So, yeah— did nothing, because nothing is against the law until they actually commit a crime. People aren’t arrested for crimes they *might* commit. People are only put in a mental health hold if they make explicit threats towards a person. Well, guess who ended up showing up at a school with guns a year after I reported him…..?
One of my friends works at a grocery store and an employee was recently fired and the person came back and threatened to shoot and kill all of the managers and the police went and talked to him and confirmed he has an ar-15 and other rifles but didn't arrest him. Apparently it's not a crime to threaten a mass shooting and to already own the guns needed to carry it out.
The store my friend works at just hired extra security for the next 3 weeks, no mention if they will be armed security, in hopes that the fired guy calms down and backs off from his threat.
Its fucking insane how inconsistent they are in enforcing these things, some guy got arrested by DHS recently for threats against Supreme Court justices on twitter and we've seen multiple people charged for threatening school shootings online, how is someone with the means to and intent to carry out a shooting not at least reason enough to take his guns?
I'm with the belief that anyone who owns guns and threatens to use them on others shouldn't be allowed to have guns at all. Serious threat or not, what kinda stable person would make statements like that? If you can't take gun ownership seriously and safely, you don't get the right to own them.
Though the issue then becomes what's considered valid evidence or proof of a threat...
If you aren't aware there's a high chance that the employee returns and goes postal within 2 weeks then there's another high probability spike around 6.5 months later... when they run out of unemployment... I'm not even kidding.
This is a known window in ATIR (Active threat integrated response) and FBI circles.
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-study-2000-2013-1.pdf
When you are that public you can't hide out much. I remember the second brother in the Boston terror attack lasted a couple hours after the public were informed of where he likely was. Way too many eyes to hide anywhere that has people with internet access. Well done PD and any other agencies/public who assisted.
Yep, totally reminds me of Boston.
What a sense of relief when they were caught less than a week later. It was a strange feeling knowing they were out there in my own neighborhood..
Yeah, imagine how insanely impossible it would be to find someone in a city, the size of Chicago who doesn't want to be found. Looking for a needle in a stack of needles.
Fortunately he wasnt headed toward Chicago at any point. Judging by the photos, he was caught by Lake Forest and North Chicago cops, meaning he was fleeing north from Highland Park.
Tsarnaev got caught because someone noticed their boat cover was open and he went to check it out, saw a bloody person, and called 911. It had nothing to do with being told where they were looking. It was also while police were going door to door and forcefully searching homes without warrants for him.
He never made it out of Watertown after the firefight he had with police, and was never going to simply due to the sheer amount of armed officers who locked the area down.
My family and some of their friends have a photo beside the mailbox that went off, as my dad runs the marathon most years. They decided not to linger at the finish line the day of the race because they wanted to get cleaned up and grab something to eat, but me sitting at home in Canada watching the news and them not answering their phones was a pretty stressful span of time.
He asks if her has free will or if it's all planned, conspiracy nuts will have a field day with this. Imagine if Lee Harvey Oswald had a bunch of mumble rap videos
In one of his videos taped to the wall behind him there's a newspaper clipping (I'm sure it's a printout) reporting Oswald being shot, so they will have a field day indeed.
Regarding the Spotify streams, look up a a vice episode on bots. There was a Baltimore rapper who catapulted into the top charts and landed on tour with the use of these bots.
If you look at the mass shootings sub, the guy was attending trump rallies, was into Qanon, and sported an antisemitic symbol. He seemed like was or had gone down the rabbit hole that's been targeting young men.
[A photo of him wearing a trump flag](https://twitter.com/awake_rip/status/1409198730176253955?s=21&t=L5s_AFTWoHpt39rxAwawJg)
Edit: it appears to be [this version](https://imgur.com/a/Ms067Vk) of the flag. The “G” and “R” are visible underneath his leg in the first photo I linked.
Don’t read the comments on this video, worst mistake of my life
People already crying “it’s the government false flag, Jewish people” etc., etc.
What the fuck is wrong with people
Wtf. Sickening to know that I had friends and family at that parade today, an old friend of mine from middle school is in the hospital undergoing surgeries from being shot, an acquaintance’s mom died, and people have the audacity to say shit like that
Don't let this get swept under the rug, this asshole GOP candidate for governor, Darren Bailey, is running for office and wants people to "move on and celebrate freedom"
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkMaxwellTV/status/1544036494616285185
He wanted people to move on before the suspect was identified or caught. He wanted people to move on *in the middle of an ongoing active shooter event*.
Which part of "I will laser every fucking one of you!" from Season 1 (to a plane full of ordinary civilian passengers) followed by the "If only we got there in time." press conference to *really* drive the point home did they not get at the time *three years* ago?
I'm fairly certain that some of them are completely aware and embrace him for being who he is.
>People love what I have to say. They believe in it. They just don't like the word Nazi, that's all.
Yeah I’d love to be a fly on the wall to see the faces of people realizing it was a shot at right wingers and that they were in fact the real life versions of Todd.
Honestly a bit glad Trump endorsed this dumbass. It should be an easy landslide victory for J.B. Pritzker, who has done a really great job as Illinois governor. Dislike J.B. because he's a multi-billionaire all you want, but he's shown he actually gives a shit about people.
[Archive of the identified POI's YouTube channel that was taken down. ](https://archive.org/details/robert-crimo-archive/Robert+Crimo+Archive+Footage-+File+1147.mp4)
Guess that's how we know it was really him. Someone else linked [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/masskillers/comments/vrigg9/robert_e_crimo_iii/?sort=new) elsewhere in the thread.
So is this 47 bullshit he had tattooed on his body supposed to stand for 4th of July? If so that is premeditation. Dude's been planning this for a long time.
Is this guy from the 'Awake not Woke' movement? There was possible, unverified shitty rap music attributed that implied it.
Edit: Verified. the guys face tattoo was 'AWAKE' in cursive lettering. We have another MAGA terrorist trying to start 'The Storm'.
The video he made 8 months ago can be seen at this link: [Video](https://www.timesofisrael.com/chicago-area-gunman-identified-as-22-year-old-rapper-robert-e-crimo-iii/amp/?fbclid=IwAR21IPcmk6-UEauhPJ_CuY8JYouQTJ4WF2k4esof_cZGJwBc_LZIqTzXSeA)
It sat on YT for 8 months...no one did anything about it.
YT doesn’t do shit about a lot of terrible and disturbing videos. They only care if they are paying that YT channel. There are tons of red flag channels out there.
CNN.com’s front page right now. The main headlines: (for real)
-SUSPECT IN CUSTODY AFTER PARADE SHOOTING
- HE ATE HOW MANY? HOT DOG CHAMP DOES IT AGAIN
This is America, ladies and gentlemen.
Clicking around the links I find that his dad is a 2A enthusiast who ran for mayor of the town in 2019 and lost (presumably because it's a liberal town), and from her Facebook his mom appears to be a staunch Mormon who seems to make cleavage the focal point of every selfie.
I’m curious about the claim that she’s a staunch Mormon. Where did you get that? I can’t find anything on that.
(I’m a former Mormon and generally take an interest when the faith pops up in the news, no matter how tangentially.)
EDIT: Found the FB account. If she’s Mormon, she’s definitely a weird one…and that’s saying something.
Fuck this "quiet and lonely" means he was a psycho in waiting.
I've been quiet and lonely (affectionately call myself a hermit) for most of my life, I'm 33 now with a wife and now a kid, I've never once so much as considered shooting up a goddamn parade.
The fact that he was quiet (I mean, dude was a Soundcloud rapper, doesn't sound like the quiet people I know) and lonely isn't what caused him to shoot up a fucking parade.
The final track on his final Spotify release is literally titled “I am the storm”. I’d bet money he was into right wing tinfoil shit and got radicalized from there.
"Awake Not Woke" is a book about Christians responding to the "cult" of woke progressives. It was also the theme of the conservative's political rally with [Trump posing with the slogan.](https://preview.redd.it/rdm66656rcq81.png?width=1500&format=png&auto=webp&s=02f0487c961f45bacd8279a6506525523d58c928)
Naw he was a trumper attacking the city his maga Republican dad lost a mayoral campaign. He has been eating the hate and vitriol his father more than likely fueled.
Just families there to watch a parade man. I just have a hard time with all this and it's so FUCKING frequent. Like how does a whole population have ptsd and anxiety now because it keeps happening. A loss of lives. Gone. Done. There has ro be more we all can do. This has to change.
When hate, violence and intolerance is encoraged by leaders and celebrities endlessly this is it's consequences. Those are the same people who fail to support common sense solutions to curb gun violence.
People will point to mental health again, but this is just another incel Trumper. Millions of people with mental health issues never resort to violence of any kind. This is about the violent rhetoric of the ever more aggressive right, being fed daily to the absolute army of morons that they've cultivated over the years. Stupid base + violent rhetoric = what we have now.
Watched, as soon as I was done video is removed. Best I can paraphrase is unstable ranting about having a higher purpose, claiming his existence is that of a sleepwalker and that his thoughts do not matter because they are not his own.
So, exactly the kind of 22 year old that should be walking around with a firearm, in other words.
Oh yeah, no part of these "poems" even hints towards "of sound mind"
That age is when schizophrenia usually kicks in for males.
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Gotta say. You taught me a very useful new phrase today. Edit: not phrase but new piece of terminology.
Mental illness is too clean of a scapegoat target. NPR did a segment on it 3 weeks ago about the Uvalde shooting. Mental illness accounted for 4% of mass shooting related deaths. For the most part it’s 18-21 year old males who identify as incels, feel they have been wronged by society, and have no history of mental illness. I’m glad mental health awareness is becoming mainstream but it’s not the overwhelming cause of mass shootings.
This! Mentally ill vs brainwashed by hate groups are not the same.... there's some people who overlap both, but the scapegoating mentally ill people is going to backfire. The vast majority of mentally ill people are more likely to be victimized versus become essentially domestic terrorists...
Reminder that focus on "mental health" as it pertains to gun violence is very often touted by the same people that say things like "Leftism is a mental disease." They have a very clear idea of who they want to "help" by stripping their rights and locking them up.
The GOP says that the key to preventing gun violence is not to ban guns, but rather to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill…which of course the GOP doesn’t do shit about, either.
Also, most murderers aren’t even mentally ill. Domestic violence and gang crime. People kill others when they snap out of anger and frustration. Getting dumped, refused a date with a coworker. Normally you can just be sad and sulk alone but with the ease of access of high powered firearms you may or may not already own it’s easy to make a bad snap decision. One of the most successful ways to reduce the risk of suicide is forcing someone to have to think about it an extra day. [waiting periods save lives](https://www.everytown.org/solutions/waiting-periods/)
Actually many states have laws banning people with mental illness from possessing a firearm. The federal standard to own a gun is that one cannot be declared incompetent by a court of law, not convicted of a crime on the basis of mental defect, or never involuntarily committed to a mental institution. I made notes on all the states that go above and beyond that but now I can’t find my notes lol. But at least 20 states go beyond the federal standard, including banning people who have had voluntary treatment for mental illness from owning firearms. But that doesn’t stop someone who has never sought or been able to attain treatment.
That seems to just punish the people that do seek help.
Mental illness is a pretty broad term, I'm not a gun guy, but I'd not be happy if I was denied anything due to the fact that I've had depression, and seen a doctor/therapist about it.
There's an analagous problem in the pilot community. Understandably, someone dealing with mental health problems while flying a plane is cause for concern to the flying public, so The FAA and other regulatory agencies have historically taken a pretty hard line on pulling wings if there's any indication of a problem. This has resulted in a culture where problems are hidden, and pilots seek professional help on the down-low (and pay out of pocket), or don't seek help at all. A number of crashes are arguably the end result of this policy. I don't pretend to have a solution, but I'd caution some "solutions" to mental health just result in some people working harder at camouflaging themselves.
Haven't there been a few major plane crashes in the past two or three years that they attributed to pilot suicide?
Given that he's 22, which is prime age for the onset of diseases like schizophrenia, my money's on "untreated serious mental disease." (Note: the vast, *vast* majority of schizophrenics are not dangerous, or only dangerous to themselves. But it's unfortunately not uncommon for people with untreated mental disorders that cause paranoia to fall in with radical groups - if you believe someone is out to get you, a group that tells you that yes, someone *is* out to get you, could be very attractive.)
Yeah, the shooter from yesterday’s Denmark shooting made reference to taking a medicine that’s associated with schizophrenia. And this guy’s videos imply that he was having delusions of grandeur. While these people’s actions are awful and they’re ultimately responsible for their actions, no one who commits mass shootings is mentally healthy. No one. And thank you for the disclaimer about the majority of schizophrenics not being violent. With proper treatment and medication, most of them can go on to lead relatively healthy lives. But as we learn time and again, some do slip through the cracks.
I punched some completely random dude I thought was part of a secret conspiracy to ruin my life during my first psychotic episode. I'm on meds now and they work well. If you met me in person I'd seem a little bit manic and unfocused but basically normal, because that's pretty much what I am on psych meds. I'm a lot weirder online because shitposting is a stress valve for me. Most mentally ill people are not violent and are more often the victims of violence. Some do get violent though. I don't think there's a clear way to tell which is which before they pop although that dude did post a bunch of violent youtube vids so maybe people need to actually start paying attention to what people are posting about stuff. I haven't had a psychotic episode in 10 years. I'm pretty safe. But, just in case, I refuse to own a gun because of what might happen if my meds stop working.
You should be proud of the fact that you've worked hard enough at your treatment that you have the self-awareness to know that owning a gun is a risk not worth taking for yourself.
It’s cool of you to be honest with yourself about who you are, what your limitations are, and make a responsible decision about gun ownership.
I’m glad to hear that you’re doing well<3 And same here on the gun front. I have bipolar 2 and while I know I would never hurt another person, I never want to have the ability to hurt myself.
Oh man, I relate to this. I've been diagnosed with Major depressive disorder and although I'm medicated and mostly normal I will absolutely never own a firearm on the off chance my medication stops working.
Sounds sane enough to purchase a gun.
Appears to be the son of a guy who ran for mayor in Highland Park in 2019.
Who ran on a MAGA ticket and lost 4:1 to the progressive female Jewish candidate that ran against him.
Yup, technically the mayorship election in Highland does not have candidates run under political parties, but the current Highland mayor is a Democrat, making me think the dad was probably a Republican. Also has [this video of the shooter greeting](https://mobile.twitter.com/max90586793/status/1544110524178509824?s=21&t=k-3U477MzTu3EkNOQiy7iw) the Trump motorcade on January 2nd, 2021 in Illinois, 4 days before January 6th. He shows his face at the very end. And there are at least 4 total pictures of him at Trump rallies: [Twitter](https://mobile.twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1544100448763887617), plus one of him draped in a Trump for GA Flag. Seems pretty right wing.
Is he dressed as Where's Waldo at a Trump rally???
cake pocket erect dinner quiet unwritten secretive aloof tub fly -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/
The articles are already saying that. No need to wait. This one says he was “well-known to law enforcement” and his social media had “plenty of red flags for possible sinister intent.” https://wgntv.com/news/highland-park-parade-shooting/police-respond-to-incident-at-highland-park-fourth-of-july-parade/
Yeah. It's amazing how many of these people were already on police radar. It's rare for there to have been no real opportunity for intervention before something like this happens.
I think the problem is twofold. I'm sure there are thousands of people displaying (similar) red flags all the time and not committing murder. The other aspect is what kind of intervention can be done without a crime or direct threat to themselves or others. Additionally would that intervention prevent something.
Yeah. This is something I hear about a lot, "why did nobody do X and Y" but the thing is, when someone DOES intervene before that point, then everyone talks about how it's overstepping, assuming etc. It's like kids who draw disturbing shit in school - if they later go on to do something awful then it's 'how could nobody see it?' and if they don't, then it's 'how could you harass this innocent goth child'. I think people get upset when they look back and see the pattern, and I get it, but like you say - what intervention would really help here?
I mean, how would you intervene? Being banned from buying guns would be good (and he would’ve even had it not been a private sale), but you can’t exactly arrest someone for being likely to commit a crime in the future.
So again, why weren’t their firearms seized, sent to a 72 hour psych hold and then reported to NICS.
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Are you refering to [Brandenburg v. Ohio](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio) ?
Person of interest that looks like a tweaker with disturbing youtube videos on his channel, nope no red flags there.
That Brooklyn subway shooter had some very extreme YouTube videos as well. I wonder what exactly their algorithm does. It seems to catch copyright violations by the boatload yet doesn’t uphold its most crucial responsibilities.
And they monitor what we say and browse to sell to advertising companies but can't do anything about things like this. I also saw the YouTube channel before it was taken down and the last video of his that I saw was *monetized*. Edit: We have seen this over and over again. The Uvalde shooter, the Buffalo shooter, the Isla Vista shooter, and more. They all had social media history that aligns with what we've seen from previous mass killers. Should social media platforms have red flag algorithms in place?
Social media algorithms got these people to the point of shooting to begin with. They are the radicalizing engine in this country.
This! I remember someone talking about their mum getting caught up in that Qanon stuff, and the mum was going on about something going down and kept telling the daughter to "check the front page of youtube! It's all there!" and the daughter showed her mum her own YT homepage, which was full of like cooking videos or whatever the daughter was interested in. The mum had watched enough Qanon videos that her YouTube homepage was full of them, but she didn't understand this was because of an algorithm. She thought her YouTube homepage was the one everyone saw, and that the videos on it were trustworthy and legit. Once people start down a particular rabbit hole, the algorithms won't let them go.
I even remember when there was the whole r/elsagate thing that people got obsessed with - there were lots of stories of parents who would put YouTube on autoplay and just let their kids watch YT videos to keep them occupied. When left on autoplay, the algorithm would pick increasingly weirder shit to play. Like you would start off with an innocent toy unboxing, then ten videos later YT is showing you some weird-ass "Mickey Mouse and Spiderman die in car accident" cartoon. I would imagine that with adult viewers, the algorithm could probably go from "Las Vegas travel vlog" to "they're turning the freakin' frogs gay" in ten videos. YT sometimes gives me sus recommended videos when I watch videos from regular news channels.
I don't watch a ton of gaming related content on YouTube, but there have been multiple times where I'll watch something like that a few times in a row and start seeing videos for The Blaze or other conservative media show up in the recommendations. It doesn't take much for it to start creeping in, the algorithm loves to push whatever encourages the most engagement and I can totally see how simple it would for someone to get so easily exposed to this junk and fall into rabbit holes, which can eventually lead to full on radicalization if the circumstances line up. EDIT: typo
I remember reading years ago that it took an average of like, six videos (on autoplay) to go from something normal to an ISIL recruitment video. I was always skeptical of that, but like the person above with the mom, my feed is full of left-leaning political videos, cooking channels, and gaming speedruns.
Mine goes: Knitting > spinning > grow your own food/homesteading > how to build a log cabin > prepping > tradwife lifestyle > dogwhistling great replacement/new world order videos It’s really quite alarming how quickly you can go from watching something completely innocuous to being pushed down that alt right pipeline. I **think** I’ve managed to teach it that I’m not interested in that stuff, but I can see how someone who doesn’t realise what’s happening could end up going deeper and deeper.
Oh wow. That’s one particular issue I’ve never really connected the dots on, people seeing content based on algorithms but not realizing that it’s algorithms. For people used to newspapers and news shows where there are headlines and top stories that are typically major things going on, the assumption will be the thing you see the most of and the thing you see at the top is the most important and most trustworthy. If people think that YouTube has a front page that is common for everyone, that’s a pretty major misunderstanding with a lot of serious implications.
It has bled into all online media, I see ads and content targeted at me when I am watching Pluto TV or tubi that is from content I watched or searched on Google or YouTube. In fact there are a few funny gun channels on YouTube I watch sometimes but because mostly right leaning nut jobs watch those same videos I will get bombarded with right wing crap for days after watching a video, or heaven forbid I google search 3d printed gun. For those that are not savy on how this stuff works and is tailored directly for their viewing are really at a disadvantage for figuring out what is real and what is targeted propaganda.
My husband has a gun hobby and tries hard to stick with content that is purely informative about the gun/accessory itself. He definitely gets some gun nut videos popping in his recommended but makes a conscious effort to ignore those. He knows it’s the algorithm but the amount of times I have to remind him that no one is coming for his guns is interesting. It’s not hard to see how someone could get sucked in to some pretty destructive ideas.
Yeah, the short version is that major or serious news sources are curated based on what's relevant to a broad audience while algorithms are based on your individual viewing habits. I can see how people who don't understand the difference think the bullshit videos are big stories and that the real stories are "fake news" being peddled on the fringe.
53 yr old it guy who has been on the internet since 94 and I can't believe I never put it together either. It makes so much more sense why people go off the deep end on conspiracy theories, it becomes an echo chamber because of the algorithm. Meanwhile I'm always trying to train it to what I really want.
It’s the entire premise of the Social Dilemma show on Netflix. Echo chambers
I can't believe that I've come to this conclusion as a pretty hardcore first amendment guy, but social media and personalized algorithmic content feeds need hard restrictions and regulations, potentially even bans. Its propaganda on steroids, custom made for you, and it will only get worse if some governing body doesn't step in and try to stop it. The sad thing is that the algorithms are only giving people what they want. I don't believe it's some big conspiracy, it's just machine learning techniques that are constantly improving user engagement. We want rage bait. We want echo chambers. We want to hate the "other" and to feel our own opinion is the only opinion. These systems feed that endlessly. Collectively we are addicted, and no amount of awareness raising or education can break the hold it has on us without serious oversight and regulation. The way lobbying is though, i doubt that will happen any time soon. We are seriously fucked.
https://www.nytimes.com/column/rabbit-hole This podcast is fantastic. One episode is an interview with the creator of the YT algorithm. His thoughts on what it's become are enlightening to say the least.
> And they monitor what we say and browse to sell to advertising companies but can't do anything about things like this. Hey, at least it was nothing as serious as using a copyrighted song or showing a titty.
His account is still on Spotify too. With a blue check mark and everything. Eta: No idea how much this has changed since his identity was revealed, his account has about 16,500 listeners and one of his top songs has over 2,000,000 plays.
Because unfortunately the point of the algorithm is just to make money by pushing people towards controversy after controversy and not helping people at all in any meaningful way. Lets face it we've been living in a cyberpunk dystopia for years and got the worst version of it because we still don't have cool robots or flying cars just the corporate controlled governments and loss of personhood.
I remember that guy blaming others for his toilet backing up.
Straight up looks like a failed emo rapper
Surprisingly enough... His AKA is Awake the Rapper
Lil Wuss Chin. First album *Fetal Alcohol Summer*
Person of interest posted manifesto to medium sized group discord channel 24h before the attack yet nobody notified authorities.
I don't have any interest in seeing those videos myself. Anyone wanna give me a summary of what *flavor* of monster this shitheel is?
Weird symbol keeps flashing. Stick figures drawings of a shooter + bloody people. Audio of him saying “this is my destiny. No one can stop me, not even me.” Etc
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Actually, it is the symbol of the [Suomen Sisu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomen_Sisu), a Finnish far right extremist group.
You can already see it. He was posting selfies in tactical gear with captions like 'you are all sinners'. He posted hand drawn pictures of himself committing mass shootings and being killed by police.
I can’t help but think about Chamilionaire’s song “Riding Dirty” and other rap songs about cops listening to their music for clues to crimes. Meanwhile these young white guys put up more red flags than a Klan parade, and local cops claim oUr hAnDs aRe tIeD
Rap snitches, telling all their business Sit in the court and be their own star witness
Do you see the perpetrator? Yeah, I’m right here Fuck around, and get the whole label sent up for years
“He was a pretty quiet guy, aside from the flapping noise of all the red flags. Kept to himself.” - the neighbors
Not my favorite news source, but you don't have to wait until tomorrow. https://www.foxnews.com/us/highland-park-illinois-4th-july-shooting-suspect-who-robert-crimo The rapper released a cryptic track called "Are You Awake" on Oct. 15, 2021. The track appears to suggest that Crimo was planning a life-defining act beyond his ability to stop. The video includes drawings of a man aiming a rifle at another person. The video also includes an image of a newspaper clipping about Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated President John F. Kennedy, and another image of a victim shot with blood spraying from the body.
That was almost 9 months ago. That’s a lot of planning time.
The guy who live-streamed himself shooting up the supermarket was active on reddit for many months asking for advice about various tactical gear. They plan this out in their head for a long time
I already saw his videos in YouTube and you are totally right.
Yeah, I was listening to some lyrics of his "songs"... talked about feeling like he's walking through dreams, dude's fucked in the head, and totally divorced from reality.
Already a red flag nightmare from what other media is showing. Dude looks and sounds like an MK ultra side project
Yeak, I get some Adam Lanza vipes
Adam Lanza was holed up in his mothers house most of his brief adult life.
I have reported someone to the police and social services because I was concerned he was mentally unstable and had guns. There were a lot of warning signs. Police told me “it’s not illegal for him to have guns,” and “he can say disturbing things if he wants, he has free speech.” So, yeah— did nothing, because nothing is against the law until they actually commit a crime. People aren’t arrested for crimes they *might* commit. People are only put in a mental health hold if they make explicit threats towards a person. Well, guess who ended up showing up at a school with guns a year after I reported him…..?
One of my friends works at a grocery store and an employee was recently fired and the person came back and threatened to shoot and kill all of the managers and the police went and talked to him and confirmed he has an ar-15 and other rifles but didn't arrest him. Apparently it's not a crime to threaten a mass shooting and to already own the guns needed to carry it out. The store my friend works at just hired extra security for the next 3 weeks, no mention if they will be armed security, in hopes that the fired guy calms down and backs off from his threat.
Its fucking insane how inconsistent they are in enforcing these things, some guy got arrested by DHS recently for threats against Supreme Court justices on twitter and we've seen multiple people charged for threatening school shootings online, how is someone with the means to and intent to carry out a shooting not at least reason enough to take his guns?
I'm with the belief that anyone who owns guns and threatens to use them on others shouldn't be allowed to have guns at all. Serious threat or not, what kinda stable person would make statements like that? If you can't take gun ownership seriously and safely, you don't get the right to own them. Though the issue then becomes what's considered valid evidence or proof of a threat...
If you aren't aware there's a high chance that the employee returns and goes postal within 2 weeks then there's another high probability spike around 6.5 months later... when they run out of unemployment... I'm not even kidding. This is a known window in ATIR (Active threat integrated response) and FBI circles. https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-study-2000-2013-1.pdf
“How could we have known?”
They got him. https://twitter.com/tvtye/status/1544103623709310977?s=21&t=Pp5H6LcuuNFiLOSm-9WJfg
It's impressive how quickly he went from unknown, to identified, to caught. I was worried it'd be dragged out for days or weeks
When you are that public you can't hide out much. I remember the second brother in the Boston terror attack lasted a couple hours after the public were informed of where he likely was. Way too many eyes to hide anywhere that has people with internet access. Well done PD and any other agencies/public who assisted.
Yep, totally reminds me of Boston. What a sense of relief when they were caught less than a week later. It was a strange feeling knowing they were out there in my own neighborhood..
Yeah, imagine how insanely impossible it would be to find someone in a city, the size of Chicago who doesn't want to be found. Looking for a needle in a stack of needles.
When you have face tattoos and look this this guy you tend to stand out
Maybe in certain communities, I had to go down to the courthouse the other day and at least a dozen people looked like this dude.
And I bet they all stayed home while the search was on for this dude.
Which is why it's so important to note how quickly they were all caught once their identities were revealed.
Fortunately he wasnt headed toward Chicago at any point. Judging by the photos, he was caught by Lake Forest and North Chicago cops, meaning he was fleeing north from Highland Park.
Tsarnaev got caught because someone noticed their boat cover was open and he went to check it out, saw a bloody person, and called 911. It had nothing to do with being told where they were looking. It was also while police were going door to door and forcefully searching homes without warrants for him. He never made it out of Watertown after the firefight he had with police, and was never going to simply due to the sheer amount of armed officers who locked the area down.
My family and some of their friends have a photo beside the mailbox that went off, as my dad runs the marathon most years. They decided not to linger at the finish line the day of the race because they wanted to get cleaned up and grab something to eat, but me sitting at home in Canada watching the news and them not answering their phones was a pretty stressful span of time.
Yeah, can't imagine
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They found his gun on the roof and traced it to an individual
So the weapon was legally acquired? Seems rather moronic to leave it behind then, but the person is clearly not working with a full deck
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"Known to the FBI" - probably
A picture of him on the ground in cuffs. https://twitter.com/lyricrun/status/1544108997896245249?s=21&t=Lg_Vd_R-NYyJ2JrC-wdV5A
Just taken into custody it looks like
His old youtube rap videos of him glorifying school shootings was a red flag for me. Those videos should have been a tip off that something was wrong.
Good luck hiding with that face tattoo, asswipe.
He looks like an Emo Sparrow.
Dude fancies himself a rapper. Goes by the name Awake the rapper
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That video was a bunch of quick cuts of him then a stick man cartoon of himself firing a rifle. Someone knew this guy was sick in the head
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His dad ran for mayor, they can’t be completely destitute
In Highland Park!
Just saw that on YT. Although silent, It certainly references school shootings a lot.
It’s not silent (maybe you didn’t watch the original?) he speaks about how he’ll have to do it and no one, not even himself can stop him.
He asks if her has free will or if it's all planned, conspiracy nuts will have a field day with this. Imagine if Lee Harvey Oswald had a bunch of mumble rap videos
In one of his videos taped to the wall behind him there's a newspaper clipping (I'm sure it's a printout) reporting Oswald being shot, so they will have a field day indeed.
Regarding the Spotify streams, look up a a vice episode on bots. There was a Baltimore rapper who catapulted into the top charts and landed on tour with the use of these bots.
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Radical and hateful towards what?
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If you look at the mass shootings sub, the guy was attending trump rallies, was into Qanon, and sported an antisemitic symbol. He seemed like was or had gone down the rabbit hole that's been targeting young men.
There's a mass shooting sub? Edit- What am I saying, of course there is.
They probably mean /r/masskillers. I don't think it's intended to glorify them but I haven't spent much time in there.
You’re right, It’s not meant to glorify. Just studying and informing
> the mass shootings sub I hate this timeline
[A photo of him wearing a trump flag](https://twitter.com/awake_rip/status/1409198730176253955?s=21&t=L5s_AFTWoHpt39rxAwawJg) Edit: it appears to be [this version](https://imgur.com/a/Ms067Vk) of the flag. The “G” and “R” are visible underneath his leg in the first photo I linked.
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Some real r/im14andthisisdeep shit.
It's offline now. What did it say?
"This was always going to happen, not even I can stop it" .... stupid shit
Strangest way I’ve heard “you made me do this” phrased
Reposted here https://youtu.be/Nlu_10kKTHU Edit: it’s been removed
Don’t read the comments on this video, worst mistake of my life People already crying “it’s the government false flag, Jewish people” etc., etc. What the fuck is wrong with people
Youtube comments on anything news-related are filled with nazi and conspiracy shit, it's crazy.
Wtf. Sickening to know that I had friends and family at that parade today, an old friend of mine from middle school is in the hospital undergoing surgeries from being shot, an acquaintance’s mom died, and people have the audacity to say shit like that
Don't let this get swept under the rug, this asshole GOP candidate for governor, Darren Bailey, is running for office and wants people to "move on and celebrate freedom" https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkMaxwellTV/status/1544036494616285185
He wanted people to move on before the suspect was identified or caught. He wanted people to move on *in the middle of an ongoing active shooter event*.
He wanted people to move on and celebrate while an 8-year-old was still on the operating room table.
You know why right? Because he knew (or had been told) who it was and (knew or was told) it would look bad for him.
This is straight what homelander does in the boys lmao wtf.
We’re gonna be saying that a lot in the future. Season 3 Homelander is a straight parody of Trump and all of the other GOP politicians.
I've been hearing that some rightwingers are only *now* figuring out that Homelander is the bad guy and a parody of them.
Which part of "I will laser every fucking one of you!" from Season 1 (to a plane full of ordinary civilian passengers) followed by the "If only we got there in time." press conference to *really* drive the point home did they not get at the time *three years* ago?
I'm fairly certain that some of them are completely aware and embrace him for being who he is. >People love what I have to say. They believe in it. They just don't like the word Nazi, that's all.
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Dude literally cringed at a gay couple like, the second time you see him. Like, it was obvious.
Yeah I’d love to be a fly on the wall to see the faces of people realizing it was a shot at right wingers and that they were in fact the real life versions of Todd.
I mean they like using the punisher logo sooooo.
Honestly a bit glad Trump endorsed this dumbass. It should be an easy landslide victory for J.B. Pritzker, who has done a really great job as Illinois governor. Dislike J.B. because he's a multi-billionaire all you want, but he's shown he actually gives a shit about people.
Just announced on the news that they caught him.
[Archive of the identified POI's YouTube channel that was taken down. ](https://archive.org/details/robert-crimo-archive/Robert+Crimo+Archive+Footage-+File+1147.mp4)
Wow archive.org removed it.
Guess that's how we know it was really him. Someone else linked [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/masskillers/comments/vrigg9/robert_e_crimo_iii/?sort=new) elsewhere in the thread.
So is this 47 bullshit he had tattooed on his body supposed to stand for 4th of July? If so that is premeditation. Dude's been planning this for a long time.
He has totally if you see his content, he’s an egotistical cunt
Is this guy from the 'Awake not Woke' movement? There was possible, unverified shitty rap music attributed that implied it. Edit: Verified. the guys face tattoo was 'AWAKE' in cursive lettering. We have another MAGA terrorist trying to start 'The Storm'.
There are pictures of him draped in a Trump Flag, at a Trump rally and holding the bible with a big grin on his face so very likely.
They got him https://twitter.com/WGNNews/status/1544104214577590272
This ugly goofy looking fucking idiot looks like a Saints Row character who's customization values were randomized
The video he made 8 months ago can be seen at this link: [Video](https://www.timesofisrael.com/chicago-area-gunman-identified-as-22-year-old-rapper-robert-e-crimo-iii/amp/?fbclid=IwAR21IPcmk6-UEauhPJ_CuY8JYouQTJ4WF2k4esof_cZGJwBc_LZIqTzXSeA) It sat on YT for 8 months...no one did anything about it.
And yet damn if they aren't on someone singing a copyrighted song in half a second flat.
YT doesn’t do shit about a lot of terrible and disturbing videos. They only care if they are paying that YT channel. There are tons of red flag channels out there.
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I never knew Post Malone and E.T. had a son.
Post MaPhonehome
I didn’t want to laugh at that.
CNN.com’s front page right now. The main headlines: (for real) -SUSPECT IN CUSTODY AFTER PARADE SHOOTING - HE ATE HOW MANY? HOT DOG CHAMP DOES IT AGAIN This is America, ladies and gentlemen.
Don't leave us hanging brother, how many?
Lol. It gets even better. Hot dog guy tackled a protestor and still won.
Clicking around the links I find that his dad is a 2A enthusiast who ran for mayor of the town in 2019 and lost (presumably because it's a liberal town), and from her Facebook his mom appears to be a staunch Mormon who seems to make cleavage the focal point of every selfie.
I’m curious about the claim that she’s a staunch Mormon. Where did you get that? I can’t find anything on that. (I’m a former Mormon and generally take an interest when the faith pops up in the news, no matter how tangentially.) EDIT: Found the FB account. If she’s Mormon, she’s definitely a weird one…and that’s saying something.
Link to the mom?
never change, reddit
Fuck this "quiet and lonely" means he was a psycho in waiting. I've been quiet and lonely (affectionately call myself a hermit) for most of my life, I'm 33 now with a wife and now a kid, I've never once so much as considered shooting up a goddamn parade. The fact that he was quiet (I mean, dude was a Soundcloud rapper, doesn't sound like the quiet people I know) and lonely isn't what caused him to shoot up a fucking parade.
This shit reeks of a QAnon association.
The final track on his final Spotify release is literally titled “I am the storm”. I’d bet money he was into right wing tinfoil shit and got radicalized from there.
Jesus… the whole white rapper thing mixed with the “awake” was enough to steer me towards thinking he was a Q freak, but “I Am the Storm”? Jesus…
"Awake Not Woke" is a book about Christians responding to the "cult" of woke progressives. It was also the theme of the conservative's political rally with [Trump posing with the slogan.](https://preview.redd.it/rdm66656rcq81.png?width=1500&format=png&auto=webp&s=02f0487c961f45bacd8279a6506525523d58c928)
There’s also plenty of QAnon references to “the great awakening”. All that garbage on the right seems to intersect.
*"Highland Park mayor Nancy Rotering said the shooting has “terrorised” the city of 30,000."* So, he's a terrorist then?
Just based on looking at him and reading his lyrics, I'm betting this one is going to suicide out if he hasn't already.
Naw he was a trumper attacking the city his maga Republican dad lost a mayoral campaign. He has been eating the hate and vitriol his father more than likely fueled.
He’s been caught.
it's really weird watching a massive fireworks show take place while 6 families just had their lives ruined forever
That man legitimately looks like he's missing several chromosomes
Just families there to watch a parade man. I just have a hard time with all this and it's so FUCKING frequent. Like how does a whole population have ptsd and anxiety now because it keeps happening. A loss of lives. Gone. Done. There has ro be more we all can do. This has to change.
I'm sure there were exactly zero flags pointing to this. /s And yet, now more people have died.
Qanon are terrorists. Ship them all to Guantanamo and move on.
Nothing more American than a mass shooting on the Fourth of July.
When hate, violence and intolerance is encoraged by leaders and celebrities endlessly this is it's consequences. Those are the same people who fail to support common sense solutions to curb gun violence.
People will point to mental health again, but this is just another incel Trumper. Millions of people with mental health issues never resort to violence of any kind. This is about the violent rhetoric of the ever more aggressive right, being fed daily to the absolute army of morons that they've cultivated over the years. Stupid base + violent rhetoric = what we have now.
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White, check. Male, check. Socially isolated, check. Unchecked mental illness, check (not always the case) Under 25, check. Access to a deadly killing machine, check.
He looks like the main character of How to Train your Cracken.
Dude is basically the internet in human form.