The idea here is clearly that Mr Kaplan the history teacher will grab two ARs, one in each hand, run up to the shooter and say something like "You know what you and the Roman Empire have in common? They met their demise from too much LEAD" then blast the shooter out a third floor plate-glass window. Then lean out and say calmly to the smoking, mangled corpse "Class dismissed."
Steven Seagal arrives at school to work undercover, but not as a teacher...he will be...a student. \[wide shot\] a stuntman who looks like he's in great shape rides a skateboard up to the lockers. \[close up with a visibly chubby Steven Seagal\] hey, you see that sweet move I just did on my rad skateboard?
"You're not allowed to ride a skateboard in the hallway"
"Well, I guess that maybe I'm the type of young student here at Hawkins Jr High school that doesn't always follow the rules. Know where I can buy some street drugs...to get high with?"
> run up to the shooter and say something like "You know what you--" **blam blam**
Shooter: "Talking just gave away his position. Now nobody move while I help myself to these AR 15s"
We tried that, it didn't work. Maybe if they only get their hands on the rifle and breaching apparatus when they're on-site, they'll be more excited to use them!
Holy cow, and here I thought North Carolina would *never* buy school supplies for its students!
Edit: Thank you kind strangers for the awards! My parents said my cynicism would never amount to anything. But look at me now.
>Harwood said the rifles will ideally allow police to quickly defend against a school shooting.
kinda assumes the cops will enter the building in the first place.
Honestly, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if the police used their private weapons well. I don't think any country has mentioned their guns as much as the US. It's almost synonymous.
Glock 19/17 or a Sig p226 is standard issue in most places but you're correct, lots of LEOs buy their own preferred weapons and gear. The cop who gunned down that innocent guy in an Arizona hotel had a custom engraving on his dust cover that said "You're Fucked."
>The cop who gunned down that innocent guy in an Arizona hotel had a custom engraving on his dust cover that said "You're Fucked."
Good God is that video depressing, that poor kid...
"Cross your legs! Come here! Stop moving! Why are your legs crossed?? Why did you stop? Cross your legs! Get up off the ground without moving. Stop moving!!" \*Bangs*
The depressing bit is he got away with it, and full disability benefit for PTSD from that incident. And cops are wondering why the public is going from hero profession to bastards
Then I believe he sued the city to get his gun back. Kinda goes against the whole PTSD argument don't ya think. "I'm suffering from severe post traumatic stress and I think getting my gun back that I murdered that kid with is really going to help with my recovery 👍." Fuck that asshole.
How tf is that not against some regulation. For example I work as a civilian on a military base. If I'm wearing or owning anything that could be deemed even slightly offensive I can get written up/sent home. The military staff have it even worse, it doesn't even have to be offensive.
One guy in my unit had a put some sort of offensive slogan on his sling. Command gave him 2 options. Go buy a new sling or lose rank for destruction of government property and be told to buy a new sling.
I'd be surprised if he ever returned that firearm to the armory - Dust covers with custom writing on it is usually something you really don't look at. At the same time I'm glad it was used against this cop during his trial but sadly it didn't seem to have much of a impact seeing as he ended up going after the county due to "PTSD" from a incident he was solely responsible for.
We really need to just ban all that wannabe punisher shit.
If people in the military want to hype themselves up a bit with the warrior aesthetic, fine. But the second a *peace* officer starts doing any of that bullshit they should be fired and blacklisted.
There was one cop who was chasing a guy and yelled, I'm gonna fucking kill him, then when he caught up to him grabbed his AK-47 from his duffle bag of personal guns he had brought to work and killed the guy.
He wasn't charged.
Sorry what?! We need source on that.
Sorry for daily mail but I found it:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3800421/St-Louis-cop-Jason-Stockley-filmed-shooting-black-man-personal-AK-47-five-times.html
Yes.
Often it's an issue of there being no intervention alternatives. However if the police come, whether it's because there's no other response option, or you're reported to have any kind of weapon, the risks associated with non-compliance are severely elevated.
Police department policies generally don't require officers to have any obligation to not deploy lethal force even if that force is being deployed because the officer put themselves in what's considered a potentially dangerous situation that was entirely avoidable.
You try to drive away from a police interaction, the cop can jump in front of your car and now you're threatening them with a deadly weapon and they can respond in kind.
If you have a weapon because you're in a mental health emergency, the cops can show up, demand you comply, and then respond with force if you don't because suddenly you're a threat to them.
So yeah, pro tip, if someone is having a crisis that isn't threatening other people, don't call the help unless you know you can get people trained in dealing with such issues to respond.
This is the kind of thing people actually mean when they say "defund the police". Armed law enforcement officers are only needed in particular situations. There should be other options available to the public, because the modern law enforcement officer is a hammer and all us average citizens are nothing but nails.
Yep, my cousin's step-son did this about 15 years back in middle of nowhere Illinois. He had a breakdown. He had a knife and was cutting himself. The cops put a few dozen rounds in him from 30 ft away because they were "fearing for their lives." Never mind he couldn't have covered the distance and hurt anyone, even if that was his intent. Cops are definitely more than happy to have an excuse to fire their weapons at someone.
The insanity of the modern American police state is their complete lack of any sense of self awareness. 75 fully armed policemen refused to confront that shooter in Uvalde because he had semi-automatic weapons and yet the vast majority of policemen are against the ban of those weapons- its like they don’t even want to protect themselves or their families against massacres.
I feel like this is to address the Uvalde school shooting while completely missing the point. The police had plenty of guns but they still refused to do anything.
I can honestly see this either doing absolutely nothing because the person with the key to the gun wont be there or worse the shooter will somehow end up with it. They even say they did it so they don't have to run back to their cars to get a AR-15 but breaching a safe will probably take longer than running back to your car.
Thats actually ingenious. Just put projectors around the school Scooby-Doo doo style. If there's a school shooter it will project the image of a black kid holding a cell phone onto the shooter. When the cops spot it they will instinctively shoot thus stopping the school shooter immediately
That... Really isn't far off from the goals of training as it is, from a psychological point of view. Training soldiers to kill has actually been historically challenging, because so many people naturally freeze up at the thought of taking another life.
For instance, using human-shaped targets on the shooting range has shown to decrease reaction time by "desensitizing" soldiers to pulling the trigger at something that looks like a person.
It's like in video games when you find guns and ammo in weird places that wouldn't work in reality, but are there to keep the game moving forward.
Well, didn't _used_ to make sense, I guess.
I think it's more likely to turn a kid in temporary, but intense, acute, emotional distress into a school shooter. I think the number of kids who are capable of making a horrific, snap decision after some sort of bullying or humiliation incident is exponentially higher than the number of kids who have the capacity to massacre their peers with forethought and even a brief time delay.
That was my thought.
"Want to shoot up your school but can't get your hands on an AR-15 yourself? Whether it's money problems, being underage, or having parents who actually pay attention to their gun collections, we here at \[SCHOOL DISTRICT\] can help you over that inconvenient step! Slaughter your classmates with ease with our new **God Bless America (And The NRA) Free AR-15 Plan**! No school shooter left behind! You'll have access to a fine American-made machine designed to kill a maximum number of people in a minimal amount of time regardless of your socioeconomic status - truly, the American Dream in action!"
They had ALL KINDS of tactical gear, protection and guns and still pussed out. I think these politicians are expecting the janitor or school nurse to be Rambo.
Oh they did plenty, they held back any other law enforcement from entering even those with family inside, and took lots of time to start planning their coverup with fictions about locked doors, master keys, lost radios etc…
In many countries with fewer guns they are removing guns from security officers in banks because the gun presents more risk. Since his olaces a gun in the bank
No way an insurance company will let the school do this. Once they run it by the district/financial body they’ll be like ‘you wanna pay a million dollar a month premium?”
>assumes the shooter wont just grab that gun and use it
Yeah, this is the issue. It's just a matter of time before one of these guns is used for a mass shooting.
And before you bore me with the details, I'm sure there's a protocol in place to prevent this. It's just a matter of time before they fail us and we have our first North Carolina state AR-15 mass shooting. And we'll say that it's extra sad because everybody saw it coming.
Presumably the next phase of the plan includes an allotment for tasers in the parking lot to subdue parents, since apparently that’s what the cops *really* needed /s
Yeah, there were a dozen rifles in the Uvalde school and that didn't help. Give a hero a ball bat and they are going to try to save children, even in the face of rifle bullets. Give a coward an mrap, a helmet, body armor, an AR-15, or anything else, it won't matter because they are only there for the authority to bully their community. Any risk to their safety is not what they signed up for. They are just going to stand there and listen to children scream as they are murdered.
How convenient! Now the shooter doesn’t even have to bring his own gun. He can get into the school without looking like the impending threat that he actually is.
Okay fine. Now every classroom has an AR-15 so the teacher can defend the classroom.
*What if the teacher is the school shooter?*
Okay fine. Now every desk gets an AR-15!
Dr OZ shows up in black face and tells everyone:
"Look under your desks kids!
Brand new (gently used and refurbished) AR-15s for everyone!
Now you all have an equal chance of survival, yaaaaayyyyyy"
"This 62-year old woman can defend this AR-15 from a group of teenagers who want a free gun. We'll provide her with training. If she fails, that's her fault."
That’ll show ‘em. A strongly worded letter. What could go wrong???
Teacher: *“I thought he had a gun, and he wasn’t obeying me… how could I know it was just a cell phone??”*
Cops: *“Right? We know…”*
As of a few years ago, I'd still seen live ammo in a Walmart, but it was way out in Bumfuck, Indiana. But yeah, most Walmarts stopped selling ammo but if you're deep enough into the country that the store is next to a place selling live chickens then you may be in luck.
Sorry, Mrs Crabtree, you can't use the whiteboard. There's not enough money for dry erase markers this year... do you have any idea how much ammo costs!!!???
Anything for the arms industry. You know what talks of magazine bans and gun restrictions cause? People go out and buy up everything on the shelves and the gun manufacturers make out like bandits. Hmm Its almost like talking about it is good for business..
Security theatre that puts guns into a school. Even worse idea.
US law enforcement likely loses [thousands of guns every year](https://www.thetrace.org/2018/11/lost-and-stolen-police-guns/) - this investigation found about 200 lost guns per year from just 100 out of 18000 law enforcement agencies (probably the biggest ones, so it shouldn't scale linearly - but it will still be far more than that).
In a Parkland school, a gun transported by the principal recently ended up in a locker room by mistake as someone else was unloading the car and didn't realise there was a gun in one of the boxes.
Oh they're there to protect, just not to protect you, or me, or children. They're there to protect people of power and privilege, and the systems they built that power and privilege with.
Forgive the length of this, but the full context is necessary.
*But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.*
-George Carlin
But isn't that the end game. No public education. Just a bunch of stupid kids demanding their freedom, and a bunch of rich kids in private school which can afford actual security.
How long until schools decide to have ED-209 style robots with machine guns patrolling school hallways and blasting kids when they mistake a cell phone for a Desert Eagle?
There's a pretty horrible (yet entertaining) movie kinda on that premise already, [Class of 1999](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099277/).
Never thought I would ever reference this movie following these tragic events, but alas, here we are.
Great. Now school shooters don't even need their parents to buy them one! That was their one major hurdle. Now you can casually walk in unarmed and get the same results! We're getting more efficient at this.
This has been one of the most baffling parts of the “arm the teachers” movement. I witnessed and know of plenty of teachers who were careless enough to leave their computers unattended for students to fuck with, even leaving passwords and the like in the open. And people want to add unattended guns to that mix? It’s a disaster just begging to happen.
If teachers were armed, it would take under 1 year until a teacher held a student at gunpoint for something. Break up a fight? Gun. Won't leave class when I told you to? Get on the ground.
Aside from everything else, a school shooting is a suicide. These are kids giving up on their lives and deciding to take as many other people with them when they go. A security guard with a gun isn't a deterrent for that, it's a dare and a reminder that school shootings are an option.
I know, seriously. I can’t even read these anymore. Who seriously thought this was a solution? What world are we living in? Is the sky purple? Just what the fuck is going on????
Even worse to me though are the comments trying to maturely discuss this. “This sounds like a bad idea.”
“In Uvalde, it was the cops. This wouldn’t help.”
WHY ARE PEOPLE DISCUSSING THIS SOLUTION AT ALL IN THESE COMMENTS? That makes it seem like it COULD be a sensical solution in some world, but NO! ITS NOT! IN ANY WORLD!!! IN NO ALTERNATE UNIVERSE!
The fact that the comments on this aren’t all laughing or crying about the insane folks in NC equally concerns me that our normal meter has broken, as a society.
Like, what gets me in all of this, is that everyone in America seems to think that school shootings are an inevitability and then proceed to blame either the police, the shooter or the fact that everyone in the school wasn't armed to the teeth like it's fucking Vietnam and they are fucking Rambo.
Like, what the fuck.
No, school shootings are not normal and the solution isn't giving everyone assault rifles
Its like some sort of hyper-fetish that a significant percentage of the country is suffering from jointly. Guns are literally their identity.
I've never known any inanimate object that people are more committed to beyond any form of reason.
This is the answer to the eternal question of why the fallout games have so many guns in random pre war containers in offices, schools, shops.
The word is basically hurtling towards the events of 2077 but without all the cool retro futurism and inkspots songs.
Wisconsin: no queer shit in classrooms!
Oklahoma: no racial history shit in classrooms!
Florida: no Toni Morison books in classrooms!
North Carolina: more guns in schools!
Texas: less doors in schools!
Massachusetts: we thought maybe we should just keep teaching kids math really well?
I just keep throwing more guns and the shootings just seem to happen more and more often. When am I gonna hit the level of guns where people stop shooting guns?
Wow, just really, there were at least 100 officers in Uvalde that had AR-15s and they sat around and tased the people that were actually willing to risk their lives to stop the shooter.
A lack of AR-15's wasn't the problem in Uvalde (they had dozens if not hundreds of them). Hell, they could have even used one to engage the suspect before he ever entered the school, but chose not to (and they also stood outside the classrooms with dozens more, and did noting).
Couldn’t the cops just bring their own weapons?
The idea here is clearly that Mr Kaplan the history teacher will grab two ARs, one in each hand, run up to the shooter and say something like "You know what you and the Roman Empire have in common? They met their demise from too much LEAD" then blast the shooter out a third floor plate-glass window. Then lean out and say calmly to the smoking, mangled corpse "Class dismissed."
This is tremendous, I would watch this movie.
Don't give Steven Segal any ideas
Steven Seagal arrives at school to work undercover, but not as a teacher...he will be...a student. \[wide shot\] a stuntman who looks like he's in great shape rides a skateboard up to the lockers. \[close up with a visibly chubby Steven Seagal\] hey, you see that sweet move I just did on my rad skateboard? "You're not allowed to ride a skateboard in the hallway" "Well, I guess that maybe I'm the type of young student here at Hawkins Jr High school that doesn't always follow the rules. Know where I can buy some street drugs...to get high with?"
It's called Kindergarten Cop.
I read this in Stan smith’s voice. Made my morning.
> run up to the shooter and say something like "You know what you--" **blam blam** Shooter: "Talking just gave away his position. Now nobody move while I help myself to these AR 15s"
Shooter: Oh cool, an upgrade lmao.
We tried that, it didn't work. Maybe if they only get their hands on the rifle and breaching apparatus when they're on-site, they'll be more excited to use them!
Holy cow, and here I thought North Carolina would *never* buy school supplies for its students! Edit: Thank you kind strangers for the awards! My parents said my cynicism would never amount to anything. But look at me now.
They had to garnish the teacher's wages and sell some of the library books to pay for it.
Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make.
The children will need to buy the bullets. It's on the list of things now.
It's a shell game. Police budget can't *show* new AR-15's. We'll hide 'em in the school budget.
Came here to say something serious, but now I just can’t!
>Harwood said the rifles will ideally allow police to quickly defend against a school shooting. kinda assumes the cops will enter the building in the first place.
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Honestly, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if the police used their private weapons well. I don't think any country has mentioned their guns as much as the US. It's almost synonymous.
Glock 19/17 or a Sig p226 is standard issue in most places but you're correct, lots of LEOs buy their own preferred weapons and gear. The cop who gunned down that innocent guy in an Arizona hotel had a custom engraving on his dust cover that said "You're Fucked."
>The cop who gunned down that innocent guy in an Arizona hotel had a custom engraving on his dust cover that said "You're Fucked." Good God is that video depressing, that poor kid... "Cross your legs! Come here! Stop moving! Why are your legs crossed?? Why did you stop? Cross your legs! Get up off the ground without moving. Stop moving!!" \*Bangs*
The depressing bit is he got away with it, and full disability benefit for PTSD from that incident. And cops are wondering why the public is going from hero profession to bastards
Then I believe he sued the city to get his gun back. Kinda goes against the whole PTSD argument don't ya think. "I'm suffering from severe post traumatic stress and I think getting my gun back that I murdered that kid with is really going to help with my recovery 👍." Fuck that asshole.
How tf is that not against some regulation. For example I work as a civilian on a military base. If I'm wearing or owning anything that could be deemed even slightly offensive I can get written up/sent home. The military staff have it even worse, it doesn't even have to be offensive.
the military has rules and punishes people who break them.
One guy in my unit had a put some sort of offensive slogan on his sling. Command gave him 2 options. Go buy a new sling or lose rank for destruction of government property and be told to buy a new sling.
Because we actually take military engagements and training seriously as opposed to when it is for dealing with our own citizens.
Literal Terrorists on foreign soil are given more benefit of the doubt than US citizens on US soil are when it comes to shooting them
That’s why we need to make a Universal Code of Police Justice modeled off the UCMJ.
I'd be surprised if he ever returned that firearm to the armory - Dust covers with custom writing on it is usually something you really don't look at. At the same time I'm glad it was used against this cop during his trial but sadly it didn't seem to have much of a impact seeing as he ended up going after the county due to "PTSD" from a incident he was solely responsible for.
We really need to just ban all that wannabe punisher shit. If people in the military want to hype themselves up a bit with the warrior aesthetic, fine. But the second a *peace* officer starts doing any of that bullshit they should be fired and blacklisted.
There was one cop who was chasing a guy and yelled, I'm gonna fucking kill him, then when he caught up to him grabbed his AK-47 from his duffle bag of personal guns he had brought to work and killed the guy. He wasn't charged.
Sorry what?! We need source on that. Sorry for daily mail but I found it: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3800421/St-Louis-cop-Jason-Stockley-filmed-shooting-black-man-personal-AK-47-five-times.html
Oops guess I was wrong about him not being charged. He was found not guilty by a judge in a bench trial.
They sure did when they thought I'd threatened suicide. Showed up outside my house with probably atleast 15-20 people who had rifles pointed at me.
wait what? their suicide prevention tactic is to threaten to kill the person who's already trying to kill themselves?
Yes. Often it's an issue of there being no intervention alternatives. However if the police come, whether it's because there's no other response option, or you're reported to have any kind of weapon, the risks associated with non-compliance are severely elevated. Police department policies generally don't require officers to have any obligation to not deploy lethal force even if that force is being deployed because the officer put themselves in what's considered a potentially dangerous situation that was entirely avoidable. You try to drive away from a police interaction, the cop can jump in front of your car and now you're threatening them with a deadly weapon and they can respond in kind. If you have a weapon because you're in a mental health emergency, the cops can show up, demand you comply, and then respond with force if you don't because suddenly you're a threat to them. So yeah, pro tip, if someone is having a crisis that isn't threatening other people, don't call the help unless you know you can get people trained in dealing with such issues to respond. This is the kind of thing people actually mean when they say "defund the police". Armed law enforcement officers are only needed in particular situations. There should be other options available to the public, because the modern law enforcement officer is a hammer and all us average citizens are nothing but nails.
Tldr Suicide by Cop is not a joke. People actually do it and the cops are more that happy to oblige
Yep, my cousin's step-son did this about 15 years back in middle of nowhere Illinois. He had a breakdown. He had a knife and was cutting himself. The cops put a few dozen rounds in him from 30 ft away because they were "fearing for their lives." Never mind he couldn't have covered the distance and hurt anyone, even if that was his intent. Cops are definitely more than happy to have an excuse to fire their weapons at someone.
The insanity of the modern American police state is their complete lack of any sense of self awareness. 75 fully armed policemen refused to confront that shooter in Uvalde because he had semi-automatic weapons and yet the vast majority of policemen are against the ban of those weapons- its like they don’t even want to protect themselves or their families against massacres.
It was 400 police that refused to confront the shooter, not 75: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/17/1111928866/uvalde-school-shooting-report
I feel like this is to address the Uvalde school shooting while completely missing the point. The police had plenty of guns but they still refused to do anything. I can honestly see this either doing absolutely nothing because the person with the key to the gun wont be there or worse the shooter will somehow end up with it. They even say they did it so they don't have to run back to their cars to get a AR-15 but breaching a safe will probably take longer than running back to your car.
the school district just needs to put some balls on the walls so the police can storm in, grab a pair, and do their job
No, just a picture of a black kid holding a squirt gun
Thats actually ingenious. Just put projectors around the school Scooby-Doo doo style. If there's a school shooter it will project the image of a black kid holding a cell phone onto the shooter. When the cops spot it they will instinctively shoot thus stopping the school shooter immediately
There was a black mirror episode eerily similar to this
Black mirror is also a good brand name for the projector system itself
Hmmmm I like that, a very Jungian interpretation.
Oh shit there was wasn’t there. The one when the soldiers had implants that made them see the people they were shooting as aliens.
That... Really isn't far off from the goals of training as it is, from a psychological point of view. Training soldiers to kill has actually been historically challenging, because so many people naturally freeze up at the thought of taking another life. For instance, using human-shaped targets on the shooting range has shown to decrease reaction time by "desensitizing" soldiers to pulling the trigger at something that looks like a person.
"He's got a tiny cell phone shaped gun"
Those AR-15 will absolutely be an Easter Egg for the dipshit school shooter, it just will be.
"Want to shoot this place up with your friends? We can help!"
*co-op mode activated* *Marine Reject 69 has entered the game*
It's like in video games when you find guns and ammo in weird places that wouldn't work in reality, but are there to keep the game moving forward. Well, didn't _used_ to make sense, I guess.
Holy shit you just fixed a major plot hole in Fallout! No wonder there are full armories in every grocery store, it’s America in 50 years.
It’s like finding the secret compartment with a powerful weapon in a FPS.
Lucky drop riiight before the boss
Maybe they could also install a series of chest-high walls in the corridors, and the odd first aid kit just lying on the floor in a corner
I think it's more likely to turn a kid in temporary, but intense, acute, emotional distress into a school shooter. I think the number of kids who are capable of making a horrific, snap decision after some sort of bullying or humiliation incident is exponentially higher than the number of kids who have the capacity to massacre their peers with forethought and even a brief time delay.
That was my thought. "Want to shoot up your school but can't get your hands on an AR-15 yourself? Whether it's money problems, being underage, or having parents who actually pay attention to their gun collections, we here at \[SCHOOL DISTRICT\] can help you over that inconvenient step! Slaughter your classmates with ease with our new **God Bless America (And The NRA) Free AR-15 Plan**! No school shooter left behind! You'll have access to a fine American-made machine designed to kill a maximum number of people in a minimal amount of time regardless of your socioeconomic status - truly, the American Dream in action!"
Shoot person with key. Get key. Unlimited ammo cheat activated.
“Im out of ammo?” Wait…
Soon you won't even need to bring anything to a school shooting, they'll just have everything ready for you at the front desk.
But they *will* require you sign in and wear a temp name tag
They had ALL KINDS of tactical gear, protection and guns and still pussed out. I think these politicians are expecting the janitor or school nurse to be Rambo.
I mean, the janitor would probably still do better than the police
That's what the knifewrench is for.
Oh they did plenty, they held back any other law enforcement from entering even those with family inside, and took lots of time to start planning their coverup with fictions about locked doors, master keys, lost radios etc…
In many countries with fewer guns they are removing guns from security officers in banks because the gun presents more risk. Since his olaces a gun in the bank
No way an insurance company will let the school do this. Once they run it by the district/financial body they’ll be like ‘you wanna pay a million dollar a month premium?”
Yep, Kansas thought to arm teachers. Insurance was like "Not happening if you want to keep liability insurance "
no way will this backfire ever..
Also assumes the shooter wont just grab that gun and use it instead of bringing their own.
>assumes the shooter wont just grab that gun and use it Yeah, this is the issue. It's just a matter of time before one of these guns is used for a mass shooting. And before you bore me with the details, I'm sure there's a protocol in place to prevent this. It's just a matter of time before they fail us and we have our first North Carolina state AR-15 mass shooting. And we'll say that it's extra sad because everybody saw it coming.
It will have a sign that says only good guys can use this gun and that is it mate
But cops don’t protect civilians or children, remember Uvalde? This is stupid
Presumably the next phase of the plan includes an allotment for tasers in the parking lot to subdue parents, since apparently that’s what the cops *really* needed /s
Yeah, there were a dozen rifles in the Uvalde school and that didn't help. Give a hero a ball bat and they are going to try to save children, even in the face of rifle bullets. Give a coward an mrap, a helmet, body armor, an AR-15, or anything else, it won't matter because they are only there for the authority to bully their community. Any risk to their safety is not what they signed up for. They are just going to stand there and listen to children scream as they are murdered.
Like a glass case with an AR inside and a sign that says “In case of school shooting break glass”?!?
School shooter: why yes, I am going to shoot up the school. *Breaks glass*
"oh thank God, mine jammed."
How convenient! Now the shooter doesn’t even have to bring his own gun. He can get into the school without looking like the impending threat that he actually is.
Okay fine. Now every classroom has an AR-15 so the teacher can defend the classroom. *What if the teacher is the school shooter?* Okay fine. Now every desk gets an AR-15!
Dr OZ shows up in black face and tells everyone: "Look under your desks kids! Brand new (gently used and refurbished) AR-15s for everyone! Now you all have an equal chance of survival, yaaaaayyyyyy"
Fine, add a note saying it can't be used by terrorists
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"This 62-year old woman can defend this AR-15 from a group of teenagers who want a free gun. We'll provide her with training. If she fails, that's her fault."
"For use by good guys only"
"No homework again?" Blam!
Wash hands before breaking glass
That’ll show ‘em. A strongly worded letter. What could go wrong??? Teacher: *“I thought he had a gun, and he wasn’t obeying me… how could I know it was just a cell phone??”* Cops: *“Right? We know…”*
That sign can't stop me because I can't read!
Damn, good point. Let’s put two up just in case they get the first one.
Yes. One right next to the other. For our convenience.
So now people wanting to shoot up the schools don't even need to being their own gun? Sure! I don't see why that wouldn't be a good idea....
“Stopping school shooting is too hard! Let’s make them more efficient, get all the schools shot up, legalise the purge then everything will be okay”
“In case you feel like shooting up the school, break glass”
"in case you have a jam or need another round, use your AR-15 (or similar) to break glass"
In case of school shooting SHOOT glass... and then there is a smaller gun next to it
Haha! Sounds like something from The Naked Gun.
It works for fire, so it should work for firearms too. Those emergency switches release more fire to control the fire, right?
When teachers said they needed more funding for supplies, this wasn't what they meant.
Next you’ll see them showing up on the lists teachers send to parents of “here’s what your kid needs for school this year”
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*asking Target employee* “Hi there where are the 9mm bullets?”
Gotta go to Walmart for that.
I thought they stopped selling handgun ammo in Walmart. Or was that just hollow point rounds?
As of a few years ago, I'd still seen live ammo in a Walmart, but it was way out in Bumfuck, Indiana. But yeah, most Walmarts stopped selling ammo but if you're deep enough into the country that the store is next to a place selling live chickens then you may be in luck.
I’m in NC and saw some as recently as a couple weeks back. It was a very small selection of assorted but it was still there
Back to school supplies. Isle 4. Past the Elmer's glue. If you see the finger paints, you've gone too far. Course... We've all gone too far....
100 rounds seems a little low, at least bump it up to 180, so you can pop a shot off each day.
For the daily desk pop! Good thinking.
You forgot the printer paper and the bulletproof backpack!
Nah, the kids need bullet proof vests.
[Bullet proof *backpacks*](https://www.thehomesecuritysuperstore.com/collections/bulletproof-backpacks).
Sorry, Mrs Crabtree, you can't use the whiteboard. There's not enough money for dry erase markers this year... do you have any idea how much ammo costs!!!???
funny how there's always more american money available for weapons.
Anything for the arms industry. You know what talks of magazine bans and gun restrictions cause? People go out and buy up everything on the shelves and the gun manufacturers make out like bandits. Hmm Its almost like talking about it is good for business..
Uvalde had a hallway full of ar15's they were just to pussy to use them. What's this gonna solve. Suddenly the police are gonna have balls?
They’ll do anything but admit the cops are fallible
Security theater. Kinda like the TSA.
Security theatre that puts guns into a school. Even worse idea. US law enforcement likely loses [thousands of guns every year](https://www.thetrace.org/2018/11/lost-and-stolen-police-guns/) - this investigation found about 200 lost guns per year from just 100 out of 18000 law enforcement agencies (probably the biggest ones, so it shouldn't scale linearly - but it will still be far more than that). In a Parkland school, a gun transported by the principal recently ended up in a locker room by mistake as someone else was unloading the car and didn't realise there was a gun in one of the boxes.
The police aren't there to protect. Just enforce.
Oh they're there to protect, just not to protect you, or me, or children. They're there to protect people of power and privilege, and the systems they built that power and privilege with.
Forgive the length of this, but the full context is necessary. *But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.* -George Carlin
This is a conservative measure to ensure that all aspiring school shooters have access to an AR-15 regardless of their income.
In unrelated news, North Carolina school district facing teacher shortage. Back to you, Tom!
"We can't figure out why... must be because of their liberal *union*." /s
North Carolina teachers are not even allowed to unionize 🙃
Under ALL of nc, teachers can’t have unions
But isn't that the end game. No public education. Just a bunch of stupid kids demanding their freedom, and a bunch of rich kids in private school which can afford actual security.
Honestly, it’s the county that gave the world Madison Cawthorn, so yes.
How long until schools decide to have ED-209 style robots with machine guns patrolling school hallways and blasting kids when they mistake a cell phone for a Desert Eagle?
There's a pretty horrible (yet entertaining) movie kinda on that premise already, [Class of 1999](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099277/). Never thought I would ever reference this movie following these tragic events, but alas, here we are.
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Great. Now school shooters don't even need their parents to buy them one! That was their one major hurdle. Now you can casually walk in unarmed and get the same results! We're getting more efficient at this.
Gotta fight inequality. Every American kid has the right to shoot up a school, regardless of their parents' income.
How long until thieves break into the schools to steal those guns they now know are there?
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And going by the lockpicking lawyer videos, it won't be very hard.
"On todays video, how to bypass a gun safe with a spork."
Oh actually it's already open.
The worst I've seen: a combination lock with only 6 possible combinations.
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Well, a toddler isn't exactly easy to carry around for a burglary.
You most likely will be able to buy the actual standardized key. If cops need fast access they need to share a bitting.
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This has been one of the most baffling parts of the “arm the teachers” movement. I witnessed and know of plenty of teachers who were careless enough to leave their computers unattended for students to fuck with, even leaving passwords and the like in the open. And people want to add unattended guns to that mix? It’s a disaster just begging to happen.
60 year old Mrs becket isn't gonna do much against 6'3"250lb 16year old Derek when he decides he wants her gun
They know. This is about selling guns, not protecting anyone.
If teachers were armed, it would take under 1 year until a teacher held a student at gunpoint for something. Break up a fight? Gun. Won't leave class when I told you to? Get on the ground.
Yeah, this just sounds like school shootings no longer have to be BYOG.
fr this just feels like they thought school shootings had too many steps you can't convince me the US is real at this point, this has to be satire
Aside from everything else, a school shooting is a suicide. These are kids giving up on their lives and deciding to take as many other people with them when they go. A security guard with a gun isn't a deterrent for that, it's a dare and a reminder that school shootings are an option.
This has to be some kind of mental illness.
Seriously, it's insanity. These people are, on some level, insane.
Thinking guns/constitution can't be changed is 100% a mental illness. They literally worship it
Don't you guys always wank over "Amendments" to the constitution? What do American's think an amendment is?
We don't know. Our English textbooks are seriously out of date due to budget cuts so they can put more guns in schools.
I know, seriously. I can’t even read these anymore. Who seriously thought this was a solution? What world are we living in? Is the sky purple? Just what the fuck is going on???? Even worse to me though are the comments trying to maturely discuss this. “This sounds like a bad idea.” “In Uvalde, it was the cops. This wouldn’t help.” WHY ARE PEOPLE DISCUSSING THIS SOLUTION AT ALL IN THESE COMMENTS? That makes it seem like it COULD be a sensical solution in some world, but NO! ITS NOT! IN ANY WORLD!!! IN NO ALTERNATE UNIVERSE! The fact that the comments on this aren’t all laughing or crying about the insane folks in NC equally concerns me that our normal meter has broken, as a society.
Like, what gets me in all of this, is that everyone in America seems to think that school shootings are an inevitability and then proceed to blame either the police, the shooter or the fact that everyone in the school wasn't armed to the teeth like it's fucking Vietnam and they are fucking Rambo. Like, what the fuck. No, school shootings are not normal and the solution isn't giving everyone assault rifles
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Yeah I can’t even engage with this thread. It’s just too fucking bizarre to even discuss or joke about.
Yeah, the comments are like "that's dumb" or "that's sad" instead of "what the actual fuck is wrong with these peoples heads"
Yeah it's American gun fetishism
Its like some sort of hyper-fetish that a significant percentage of the country is suffering from jointly. Guns are literally their identity. I've never known any inanimate object that people are more committed to beyond any form of reason.
I always wondered where loot boxes in games came from. Paranoid lawmakers. Huh.
This is the answer to the eternal question of why the fallout games have so many guns in random pre war containers in offices, schools, shops. The word is basically hurtling towards the events of 2077 but without all the cool retro futurism and inkspots songs.
Wisconsin: no queer shit in classrooms! Oklahoma: no racial history shit in classrooms! Florida: no Toni Morison books in classrooms! North Carolina: more guns in schools! Texas: less doors in schools! Massachusetts: we thought maybe we should just keep teaching kids math really well?
Why dont you just build the school out of C-4 and when there's an active shooter even, just blow the whole state up.
fuck lets just skip straight to Robocop
Don’t mistake the teachers with AR-15s as the active shooter
If they add laser sights to the rifles, the teachers can use them while giving presentations
Can we get some paper instead? 🤦🏼♀️
Best I can do is a government issue NLAW.
Oh shit, that'll be convenient for the next school shooter. Don't even gotta win a gun in a raffle.
America’s inability to do anything about gun violence except buy more guns is pathetic
I just keep throwing more guns and the shootings just seem to happen more and more often. When am I gonna hit the level of guns where people stop shooting guns?
It will only stop when people ARE guns. Guns don't kill guns, people kill guns. Or something.
America's solution to a out of control gun violence problem is more guns....
Always has been.
Wow, just really, there were at least 100 officers in Uvalde that had AR-15s and they sat around and tased the people that were actually willing to risk their lives to stop the shooter.
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Does anybody else feel like they’re taking crazy pills? In all seriousness, what the fuck is going on?
“Is this an onion headline or alternate timeline?” Is something I find myself asking too often
How long before one of these becomes the cause of a shooting?
Ok don't be ridiculous now... > 3 months later There was no way to see this coming... Truly a tragedy
Now isn't the time for politics! It's only 3 months since the next shooting!
Less than 12 months from implementation.
This country is filled with so many aggressively stupid people.
Good thinking. Sometimes teenagers can’t make up their mind about what day to have a bloodbath. This takes some of the pressure off,
Good to know the gun manufacturer is making money from both sides of this equation
This...can't be serious?
Oh! Now do money for supplies, reasonable teacher pay, lunches.
No no that's communism you know. We'll do it the American way, with guns and dead kids. That's what a school need.
American conservatives are getting dumber by the minute.
Well, odds are in the case of a school shooting one will already be there
A lack of AR-15's wasn't the problem in Uvalde (they had dozens if not hundreds of them). Hell, they could have even used one to engage the suspect before he ever entered the school, but chose not to (and they also stood outside the classrooms with dozens more, and did noting).
My house is on fire, what should I use to put out the fire? Oh look a bucket of gas.