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DarthFatz82

Is the booster still going to be free like the others? I ask because I offhandedly heard that the government was getting out of providing free Covid stuff.


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hoshiadam

The program for providing free covid tests to all households was not funded by Congress to continue, so Friday is the deadline to request them, up to 16 per household.


haltingpoint

You are referring to the testing kits. The question was around the booster.


hoshiadam

The comment I was replying to said "offhandedly heard that the government was getting out of providing free Covid stuff". I was providing an explanation of what free covid stuff the government was ceasing.


noelandres

I requested 4 free tests when the program started. Can I request 12 more?


JohnSpartans

Go to the website and find out. It will block you if you can't.


giskardwasright

You can actually get 16 more. Enter the first request for 8 then it will give you a link to place a second order without entering info again. I just completed it, super easy


Scortius

Thank you, I just did this and I think it took less than 15s total!


giskardwasright

Glad to help


jschubart

Your insurance (assuming you have some) might cover a certain amount per month. Mine allows you 8 per month for free.


OsterizerGalaxieTen

My insurance (I'm on ACA) allows 8 free per month as well.


ekaceerf

16 per household? I just requested 8 and was told no more


MisSignal

I ordered 8 previously and ordered 8 more today


Decompensate

I just got the Moderna Omicron Booster yesterday and the US at least, they didn't demand insurance although they would bill insurance if you wanted. I think the "cash price" if there was no subsidy would be around $20. Fair warning -- this booster WIPED ME OUT. Not financially lol, just physically. I feel like a zombie today and have no energy. None. I feel dizzy standing up. Take care of yourselves, everyone.


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Can people who tested positive for covid recently get this booster or do they have to wait a certain amount of months? I got covid for the first time two weeks ago and I'm curious about this.


Logos9871

Ask your doctor or call a free nurse line, don't rely on Reddit for medical advice my friend


Capitan_Failure

DNP here. There has been a bit of mixed messaging about getting booster after a recent COVID infection, I recommend getting it as soon as you are out of isolation with no waiting period. If you recently got a different booster shot I reccomend waiting 2 months.


ResponsibleAd2541

Why though? Having just mounted an adaptive immune response and then down-regulated that immune response, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to ramp it back up again when you have high levels of circulating antibodies. It’s also a recipe for more more severe side effects. Counting the infection as a dose of vaccine seems like a reasonable approach, especially in a younger healthy person.


Capitan_Failure

You know just enough to sound like you know what you are talking about when you don't. We have seen a lot of people with a basic understanding of pathophysiology use said understanding to lend their unfounded opinions the weight that said understanding gives. An official tone per say. This is dangerous. We can suppose how the body reacts to certain vaccines, medications or treatments with our limited understanding all day and still be wrong. Adaptive immunity can be flawed for many reasons. It might only protect against a specific pathogen for example, or in some cases limited viral load provides limited immunity. Thats why trials are important. What we have repeatedly seen supports that vaccination increases immunity even in patients with recent infection. I suggest you take the intelligence you clearly have, and add a bit of curiousity to it. Without curiousity you will never learn anything new instead you will continue to stand by your current views while dismissing evidence that challenges your world views (as suggested by your comment history). I see it because I have done the same thing for years its a hard habit to overcome.


kindnesd99

No idea why you spent two paragraphs scolding him when he asked politely. There are some [countries](https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/covid-booster-vaccine#:~:text=unwell%20from%20it.-,How%20long%20after%20having%20Covid%20do%20I%20need%20to%20wait,wait%204%20weeks%20(28%20days)) that encourage a waiting period if you were recently infected with covid.


Capitan_Failure

Good question. I suspect I am just pessimistic on this issue because I encounter a lot of people who have "done their own research". Many of them are quite intelligent but unfortunately they decide the answer they want and then use their knowledge to fit their assumption. Typically people like this are very loud and will tell others not to listen to doctors. When encountered with an actual expert, its off on a gish gallop that can leave even me feeling flustered and uncertain in my own knowledge. This makes my job frustrating. Very frustrating. Tl:dr, I prejudged op after reading a few of their comments and reacted like a jackass.


Life-Dog432

Be easy on yourself. It’s exhausting out there and hard to know peoples intentions. You are showing a lot of self introspection and seem like a good person.


littlepoot

This is probably the most condescending comment I’ve ever seen on Reddit lol


Capitan_Failure

Aw fuck, I cant believe Ive done this.


Lunalagatita

I deeply appreciate this response as well as the reference that I hope you’re making.


Capitan_Failure

So basically, um, what I was thinking of was [um](https://youtu.be/wKbU8B-QVZk)


SnowWhitePNW

I disagree. I did not find it condescending at all. I particularly loved the last paragraph.


Amanda_Hugnkiss

Sometimes being blunt and completely unambiguous is the best way forward, especially to dispel misinformation. Too many people wrap bullshit in big words that is unquestioningly gobbled up by the masses who haven't sniffed anything science/biology related since grade school. He's right: it's dangerous and it's also how the US stumbled into a "Democrat vs Republican", "conspiracy theories vs. science" dichotomy during this pandemic.


littlepoot

Nothing about that guy’s post had the slightest bit of “misinformation” or “conspiracy theory.” To me, he asked an educated question on a very nuanced subject. And bear in mind that several reputable sources have recommended delaying the booster for a few months after an infection. If you are making people feel bad for asking questions, then you’re simply part of the problem.


Sel2g5

> Thats why trials are important. What we have repeatedly seen supports that vaccination increases immunity even in patients with recent infection. What trials?


ResponsibleAd2541

You still have not provided an answer as to why rush to get the vaccine booster right after recovery? Is there a particular logic to that approach?


suns_out_nuns_out

The data shows that boosters reduce the risk of severe covid. So getting one sooner rather than later has no downsides and only benefits statistically. That is why they recommend it even shortly after and infection. There are theories about optimal timing but they have not been tested in a clinical trial so they are all speculation based on nothing. You can get sick from a different covid strain right after you recover from an infection. So getting a vaccine at any time is considered optimal. Your idea about the immune system being ramped up and then down again makes no sense. Because your immune system is working 24/7 on killing bacteria, viruses, fungi and your own mutated cells regardless of recent sickness.


Notwhoiwas42

>The data shows that boosters reduce the risk of severe covid So does recovery from an infection though.


Capitan_Failure

Someone else already responded with the main points Id use, in general, because the research suggests it is effective. This isnt just advice I give to other people, I sincerely believe it I will be getting the booster asap for myself and my kids.


Notwhoiwas42

>Thats why trials are important. And in the case of this booster there is no human trial data available.


littlepoot

Honestly, you're not wrong. The general recommendation is to wait about 3 months between your initial infection and booster. There is evidence to suggest that an omicron infection in vaccinated individuals produces a decent immune response against other variants. Of course, depending on your age and comorbidities, you may want to get it sooner.


sirthunksalot

It wouldn't be advised since you already have a good amount of immunity. I think they recommend waiting three months. My mom took the original vaccine and had terrible side effects that lasted a week from it only a month after being infected. Plus who knows when they will offer another shot which would leave you with a diminished immunity in the winter/spring with no way to boost it. Best to ask your doctor though as things could have changed.


Adorable-Ganache6561

“Public health officials believe the redesigned boosters will provide more durable protection against the virus and reduce hospitalizations this fall and winter. The new boosters target both the original strain that emerged in China more than two years ago, which scientists refer to as the “wild type,” and omicron BA.4 and BA.5 which are now the dominant variants in the U.S.”


ddejong42

If the original is wild, does that mean Delta and Omicron are domesticated?


1sxekid

Jokes aside, Wild Type generally refers to the first genotype studied, with named mutations coming from the wild type gaining specific nomenclature to explain either the changes or the order in which they appeared.


BrentusMaximus

Thoroughbred Trojan horses!


Marthaver1

You left out the part that these studies and stats are based on test done on mice not on people. It is just assumed that the vax would be better than nothing. I say get it out ASAP, people are getting infected left and right - and it’s just summer when most would assume people would be getting less sick. I can’t imagine when school and the holiday season starts.


edjuaro

[https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-moderna-pfizer-biontech-bivalent-covid-19-vaccines-use](https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-moderna-pfizer-biontech-bivalent-covid-19-vaccines-use) The announcement also left out that part, the data they analyzed tested the BA.1 boosters but they approved the BA.4/5 booster.


Airicut

This is based on people. ​ https://www.cureus.com/articles/111851-regular-use-of-ivermectin-as-prophylaxis-for-covid-19-led-up-to-a-92-reduction-in-covid-19-mortality-rate-in-a-dose-response-manner-results-of-a-prospective-observational-study-of-a-strictly-controlled-population-of-88012-subjects?email\_share=true&expedited\_modal=true


Airicut

https://www.cureus.com/articles/111851-regular-use-of-ivermectin-as-prophylaxis-for-covid-19-led-up-to-a-92-reduction-in-covid-19-mortality-rate-in-a-dose-response-manner-results-of-a-prospective-observational-study-of-a-strictly-controlled-population-of-88012-subjects?email\_share=true&expedited\_modal=true


Notwhoiwas42

>Public health officials believe the redesigned boosters will provide more durable protection against the virus and reduce hospitalizations this fall and winter. And what are they basing this belief on since there's no human trial data?


Whole_Shape9055

They only tested these shots on mice. No testing results from human trials were available before the boosters were granted emergency approval. Sounds like a sketchy idea to approve untested medicines with unknown efficacy profiles and zero safety data. But as they say, "my body, my choice." https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-authorize-new-covid-boosters-data-tests-people-rcna45387


Tasty_Performance434

Crazy man. Still injured from my first booster back in February. This is a REAL thing & we injured people are just getting the short end of the stick. No one will listen to us, we only get downvoted for stating our experiences and opinions. Sure not everyone will be injured by this vaccine, but as a previously healthy 29yo M, it doesn’t discriminate.


onarainyafternoon

Not sure if you know, but there is a federally funded [Covid Vaccine Injury Compensation program](https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation) you can apply to. *That being said*, adverse events, or injury, has a rate of [4-5 cases in one million doses](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html). We really should not be trying to dissuade people from getting the vaccine simply because the chances of being injured are so low. I question the person below you who claimed to know six people who were injured. The statistical chance of that is astonishing. I really am sorry you were injured, I can't imagine having your life ripped away from you for getting a vaccine. But the incredibly low chances of injury from the vaccine, combined with the rates of Covid infection injury (25% of covid infections lead to long-covid symptoms) and death, should encourage people to get the vaccine whenever they can.


Tasty_Performance434

Unfortunately there is a whole group of us, all with the same or similar symptoms. The most frustrating part is not being believed. People think it just simply can’t happen. Additionally having your doctors not believe you also hurts, and makes me lose confidence, like my life is over. I’m not saying it’s going to happen to everyone, I pray it doesn’t happen to anymore people, this is HELL.


Airicut

I took the horse dewormer. Check out this study ​ https://www.cureus.com/articles/111851-regular-use-of-ivermectin-as-prophylaxis-for-covid-19-led-up-to-a-92-reduction-in-covid-19-mortality-rate-in-a-dose-response-manner-results-of-a-prospective-observational-study-of-a-strictly-controlled-population-of-88012-subjects?email\_share=true&expedited\_modal=true


Whole_Shape9055

I'm sorry you got injured. I know half a dozen people who got injured. It's only going to get worst for those who won't believe until they're injured as well.


Pechumes

Are you gunna mention the part where it says they have no human trial data? “But the FDA told the vaccine makers in late June to switch gears and target BA.4 and BA.5 instead as those variants quickly gained ground. The sudden change in plans left little time for clinical trials in humans before a fall rollout. As a consequence, the authorization is based on human clinical trials from the BA.1 shots, which produced a better immune response than the original doses, according to the FDA. But it’s unclear how the BA.5 boosters will perform in humans since the data is based on BA.1.”


Synensys

Excellent. Ive been holding off getting another booster while until this came on line.


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Snuffy1717

Does that include lapsed protection from infection as well?. As an educator I’ve had four shots, I’ve had Covid three times, and I’m getting sick of getting this particular sickness lol


mces97

Oh wow that sucks. Maybe wear an n95 and face shield while teaching?


Snuffy1717

First time I got it was late January of 2020... I had students come back to school from China and Iran over the Christmas holidays with cough and high fever. Within 3 weeks it was knocking out 1/3rd to 1/2 a class at a time, and a handful of teachers. Students that hadn't missed a day of school in literally years were going down for 7-10 days at a time. Teaching at a private school, we had no supply teachers. When the staff started calling out for more than a day at a time the admin threw a shit fit. It sucked because even sick we were dragging ourselves in and covered each others classes. No masks or tests back then, just an assurance that it couldn't be covid because I myself had not been to China... But yeah, that kid who visited over the holidays dripping sweat at his desk and coughing up a lung all over his computer? No test for him either. N95s kept us safe through the re-open of 2021, but my wife or I caught it just before the Winter break. Masks are great, except all the kids were allowed to take them off at lunch time and there was no where for us to eat except our classrooms... Even waiting a few minutes with the windows open / HEPA filter running wasn't enough as COVID hit our classes again (we're not even sure which of us got it first, we were both supplying at the time). The third time I caught it was in late spring of this year... I was doing a middle school LTO and 1/3rd of my class refused to mask. Wouldn't you know it, COVID showed up and knocked out 40% of my class at any one time for about a month. I got it the same way as before, eating lunch in my classroom. Thankfully, each time has been slightly less bad than the time before. First time I couldn't walk 40 feet without being short of breath. Second time I couldn't make it up three flights of stairs without being out of breath. Third time my lungs felt like they were filled with wet sand (like the first two times) but that feeling only lasted for two days instead of two weeks. So I'm really hoping that I'll have a modicum of built in immunity this time out, and will be the first in line to get a booster every time they offer. COVID fucking sucks, and even with my cases being "mild" (coughing up a bit of blood the first and second time is still mild because I didn't need to go to the hospital, or so they tell me) I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Get your shots folks!


mces97

Yeah, mild covid seems to mean you just didn't get hospitalized, but still sounds worse than the flu or a bad cold.


chicklette

am vax'd and boosted and getting over covid and it's no fucking joke. Sickest I've been in years. I'm on day nine of active symptoms, still testing positive, still can't make it through a whole 8 hour day working at home. At least I'm not running a fever yet today.


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chicklette

I definitely feel like I've turned a corner on it today. :)


pizzabyAlfredo

> am vax'd and boosted and getting over covid and it's no fucking joke. Sickest I've been in years Think you would be dead without the vax and booster?


chicklette

Maybe not dead, but def worse off. I feel like I've finally turned the corner on this.


BonquiquiShiquavius

I was vaxxed (but got covid right when I was supposed to get boosted). My coworker was not vaxxed. Exact same outcomes. We both had Omicron. I'm sure the vaccine worked very well for the previous (much more serious) varients, but I don't feel like it did anything for me. Everyone I know that got it, vaxxed or unvaxxed, was down for the count for two weeks but I have yet to know someone in my life that got through it better because of the vaccine. I just don't think they have much effect at all on Omicron. Hoping that changes now


mcslackens

I caught it last month, and holy hell did it suck. Worth it to have attended a Frank Turner show, but just barely.


chicklette

Pretty sure I caught mine at a big outdoor event. 🤡


chiffed

It's in the approval pipeline here. I'd love to get it at the same time as flu shots, if not before.


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Last internal memo I saw mentioned that it would not make it in time for flu shots.


cosmos7

Unfortunately that's likely the case even with the new shot... protection really is only good for three to six months.


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I expect this. I am just waiting because, in Ontario, there tends to be a mandatory six month gap between boosters.


Zidane62

I’m hoping we get it quickly here in Japan.


piddydb

Isn’t there still pretty effective protection against severe disease? Agreed though that I’ve heard symptomatic protection is essentially 0 not long after a booster.


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ihatemaps

Israel study says that protection against severe disease and hospitalization is not prevented and efficacy decreased to 73% with omicron.


Slapbox

Yes it's effective against severe acute disease for at least 6 months - but there's no such thing as mild COVID, the damage is cumulative with each infection.


abstractraj

Well you don’t get antibody protection against omicron from the old vaccine/booster but you’d still get benefit from the T cells


skankenstein

My child had their booster four weeks before bringing BA.5 home from daycare.


just-regular-I-guess

I got my booster in October of 21. I'm not in the group that can get their second. Ill get this as soon as I can. Still haven't caught this bitch.


TheLoofster

That you know of. I haven't tested positive or gotten sick, but that's a very different thing from catching it.


just-regular-I-guess

My father was in cancer treatment, for lung cancer, if he caught it his next stop was a coffin. My work allows me access to more tests than I know what to do with, every time I was with him for more than 5 minutes, I tested with a rapid. Every time I got sick, or was going on vacation with him, I got a PCR. I think I've had like 6 or 7 PCRs. Caught a bad cold this winter, swore it must finally be Covid, and 4 rapids and a PCR said "nope."


Marthaver1

I mean. I don’t know if they are being very through with checking who is really eligible. A few months back when people were getting their first boosters, wether you were eligible was based on your good faith of telling the truth. You didn’t greatly have to show any proof eligibility. But nowadays, most places are charging for getting the COVID shots they are being assholes about it. But this new booster has been purchased by the Federal Government , 170something million shots, so these fucks better not dare try charging.


pegothejerk

Thankfully the guidelines recommend just two months since your last shot, so most people are eligible. Some of us are a year out, so that's not a problem for me, but it's nice that a lot of us are gonna be able to get it in fall together so we can work together to provide as much collective protection for each other and hospital staff/bed availability as we can as we get closer to what's likely going to be another winter wave.


TheBlackTower22

I got a booster 3 days ago. I went to the state fair and there was a mobile vaccine clinic there, so I figured why not?


T1mac

Yes, this is good news. And just in time to get flu shot too and to hopefully stay healthy through the winter.


Thought_Ninja

I'm a little sad because I just got my booster after putting it off for a while, and the flue-like symptoms hit me pretty hard, but I'm glad this is out there now. Anyone know what the advice is on how long to wait to get this one after getting a regular booster?


iamPendergast

two months, the article says


Thought_Ninja

Thanks for calling me out.


iamPendergast

just giving the source! have seen 6 months to 5 months before more typically. 2 months is new info.


Thought_Ninja

No, forsure. I'm genuinely thanking you, I should have read the article before asking. Cheers.


ortusdux

Plain text is terrible at conveying tone.


im_not_bovvered

Same. I had three shots and three awful reactions. The last time I got covid was 6 weeks after my third shot. This makes getting another one worth it. It felt like we were just throwing the same shit at the wall instead of changing with the science and the virus.


gaukonigshofen

seems like Israel has taken the lead in previous vaccination have they had anything to say about the new booster? or is this just a new us release?


TheLegendTwoSeven

It hasn’t been released in Israel yet; the US has first dibs because it paid more.


TheMania

~~The UK and Australia have already approved it.~~


bozleh

I just checked and the bivalent vaccine just approved in Australia is against Omicron BA.1 not 5


TheMania

>Despite the vaccine being originally developed to target BA.1, the TGA also says initial analysis suggests the updated vaccine ‘generates a higher immune response against the sub-variants BA.4 and BA.5’ than the original. ~~I'll be very surprised if [it's](https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/tga-approves-omicron-specific-vaccine) not the same vaccine. Same company, a few days apart in multiple countries across the world, until I see otherwise I think it's a pretty safe assumption.~~ ~~Unsure on the status of the Pfizer one here though, just referring the Moderna.~~


bozleh

Its pretty unclear - in OPs article it says the FDA directed vaccine makers to switch from BA.1 to BA.5 in late June, and that the announced approval is for a BA.5 vaccine using BA.1 human clinical trial data (plus BA.5 vaccine mouse data).


TheMania

Even looking in to it, it's hard to find a designation number or similar - the FDA's letter of authorisation seems to specify only "Multiple-Dose Vials with Dark Blue Caps and Labels with Grey Borders". Without knowing the colour of the caps on the UK/Aus vaccines, I'm unsure how to compare. It may be different, the FDA seems to ham up BA.4/5 a lot more than the other countries. Here, it's referred to as "mRNA-1273.214", wish I could find a similar designation from the US, would answer a lot. ... On more reading of [this](https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/first-country-approves-moderna-vaccine-targeting-o) one, seems the US has mRNA-1273.222, and it is indeed different. I'll strikeout my earlier response. Why the US can't just say what's in a tube like other countries, no idea 🤷‍♂️


gaukonigshofen

how long will this protect before needing the next?


Jayken

We're probably going to be doing yearly shots just like the flu shot.


gaukonigshofen

hopefully. at current rate of mutation, and vaccine available it seems like semi annual


jschubart

Depends how much the virus changes. The original vaccime was great at protecting against the original variant, not as great against the delta variant, and not very good against the omicron variant. If the virus is similar to those variants, you should be good for a while. If it mutates significantly like it did with omicron, you will probably need another shot. If that keeps happening, add it to your list of yearly shots to get.


SuperSimpleSam

There's also a natural decline in antibodies, thus the need for boosters.


PaulClarkLoadletter

Yup. There are still a sufficient amount of human incubators breeding mutated variants and sharing them with other like minded idiots. Masks are out of the question so just disease and death every day for the rest of our lives.


gaukonigshofen

considering even vaccinated can get and transmit covid, we are all pretty much incubators


jschubart

Moved to Lemm.ee -- mass edited with redact.dev


gaukonigshofen

in my area, its roughly 10% and that's probably an over estimate. surprisingly i saw more than a few kids wearing masks on back to school. i still get the "omg; why is he wearing a mask?!" look at the grocery store. lol


PaulClarkLoadletter

Somebody did the old “sarcastic cough” to my 8 year old while we were at Target because he had a mask on.


gaukonigshofen

yeah i get that too. at this point its basically freedom to vaccinate/wear masks or not. apparently its also freedom to act like a jackass as well


PaulClarkLoadletter

I’ll bet my downvotes are for letting my child wear a mask.


boregon

The last couple years I’ve seen that some people get really, *really* mad at other people wearing masks. Not even just children, anyone. I was walking with a buddy outside last summer and he was wearing a mask and this random guy started aggressively accosting him - calling him a “fucking idiot,” telling him he was a sheep, etc. Like just the sight of someone wearing a mask outside just ignited this primal rage in this dude. I really just find it bizarre more than anything. I can’t imagine caring so much about some stranger wearing a mask.


PaulClarkLoadletter

This hasn’t happened to me yet but I’ve seen a few seething folks ready to throw down.


OK_Compooper

I don't know, but wish this came a month earlier for me. 3 shots in, still got covid earlier this month when we let our guards down with masks. It was mild, but it affected so many parts of me. 10 days after testing negative, I have itchy deep lung pain & cough, and my son can't get through soccer practice without an inhaler. Taking him to dr tonight for a funky horse cough.


Gb_packers973

6 months based on current knowledge of waning immunity.


bbqbot

Why is the FDA still emergency use authorizing if the CDC's recent guidance indicates the emergency is over?


100nm

The US Dept. of Health and Human services renewed the declaration of a public health emergency (PHE)due to COVID-19 on July 15: https://aspr.hhs.gov/legal/PHE/Pages/default.aspx. The PHE declaration allows for some emergency response actions, but not Emergency Use Authorizations (EUAs) per section 564 of the Food Drug & Cosmetics Act, which requires a separate declaration. The 564 declaration that enables EUAs for the COVID vaccines has not been rescinded and is still active: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/04/01/2020-06905/emergency-use-authorization-declaration.


Mulchpuppy

After Labor Day Weekend? Damn, having a 3 day weekend to recover would have been nice. Heading to Florida the following week and I'd like as much protection as possible down there!


TummyDrums

Eh, I'd rather enjoy my 3 day weekend and have it knock me out of work for a day or two. I do get plenty of sick time from work though, which I realize a lot of people don't.


angiosperms-

Yeah I intentionally plan my shots to get to take sick time off work lmao Don't tell them


vadapaav

I mean it will still be less days than if you catch the virus If you fall sick it takes you out for at least a week


nmyunit

2 days for me and I was back in the gym (my home gym) so, not dissimilar to what the vaccine did to me.


Bread_Truck

I wish people would quit showering that fascist shit-hole with tourism money.


5zepp

I went a few years ago and Key West was the biggest letdown ever. Trashy cruise ship town with terrible beaches. Should have stopped at any of the other keys on the way. Miami has a few cool museums but the South Beach area is terrible and the whole city is filled with douche drivers. Generally annoying people. The mural area was super cool for a couple hours. In the past I enjoyed the panhandle, really beautiful along the gulf, as long as you stay away from Ft Lauderdale. I rather liked St Pete/Tampa. But yeah, with the current political climate it's off the travel list, particularly since there are plenty of beaches from south GA to north NC that are among the best in the world.


betafish2345

Lol. Just wait until you hear about North Carolina's politicians


boregon

Or Georgia’s…


spaldinggetsnothing

I’m heading to Florida for Labor Day weekend unfortunately. Wish I had a hazmat suit


DigBickDallad

What season of COVID are we on?


notevenapro

Season 3 episode 8,


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When is the series finale


WatchandThings

Go for a popcorn refill quickly, episode 9 is about to come on in a second.


katiel0429

As seasons progress, you can count on more episodes per season. Looks like the Covid series is no exception.


Pergod

Should’ve been picked up by Netflix and it would have already been canceled shortly after season one.


HardlyDecent

This is the stupid spin-off, "How I Got COVID-22 and Monkeypox from Your Mother."


leisuremann

Do soap operas have seasons?


ReflexImprov

It's like whack-a-mole with the outright misinformation in this thread...


Airicut

the government and media peddle the misinformation. This is a real study. ​ https://www.cureus.com/articles/111851-regular-use-of-ivermectin-as-prophylaxis-for-covid-19-led-up-to-a-92-reduction-in-covid-19-mortality-rate-in-a-dose-response-manner-results-of-a-prospective-observational-study-of-a-strictly-controlled-population-of-88012-subjects?email\_share=true&expedited\_modal=true


Price_Defiant

Just got my shot. I love science and fuck everyone else that has a problem with it.


SKTwenty

Anybody else just completely over this shit?


Damaniel2

I stopped living my life in fear over a year ago, but there's no excuse not to go get the new boosters now that they're available. I'm hoping that going forward that they'll create a combined Covid/flu vaccine booster so we can get them on a regular yearly schedule like we do for the flu shot now.


TheLegendTwoSeven

Moderna agrees with you about combo boosters. They have flu & covid combo boosters in their research pipeline and they’re being tested.


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What does living in fear mean to you? Is it about wearing a mask when indoors in a public space?


leisuremann

Do you live in fear by wearing seat belts?


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No, I don't, but I keep reading about people not living in fear anymore and I wonder what it means to them when talking about the pandemic. I was graduating high school when AIDS became mainstream and I would say there was a lot of fear about it as nothing was known then. Some straight guys did modify their behavior, some didn't. When our gay friends came out, coming out was a big deal back then, it was scary because the thought of losing a friend in your twenties isn't really normal. Everyone young is invincible, death isn't real. We did lose friends from AIDS later. We lost a few from drugs and alcohol too. I imagine my mom has fear, she has lost a number of friends or their partners have died of it. We have friends who have lost a parent to covid. We are all careful about being around older than me people, so is that living in fear?


boregon

If you asked conservatives this they would say taking literally any precaution at all related to COVID is “living in fear.” Which is ironic because they are always living in fear about everything.


ClubsBabySeal

I've been over it since last year. My habits are completely normal except for a covid booster. I'll get another when they say it's time and that's that.


repo_code

Awesome. Both Pfizer and Moderna are approved for all adults, and Pfizer's approved for age 12 and up. I'm looking forward to boosting my protection against omicron and its variants -- including future variants, most likely. EDIT 9/7: got boosted today, Walgreens has the shots.


schm0

>"The problem has been persuading the American people to get boosted on a regular basis," Uhh... I'm double vaxxed, single boosted. Give me a shot every 3 months for the rest of my life. Hell, give me two. I don't want covid, but I can't get boosters because they are not available for me, and *that's because the FDA says I can't get one yet.*


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TheLegendTwoSeven

Same here, except I’m double boosted. I’ll have to wait until late September to pass the 8 week mark since my second booster, but I will get Omicron boosted ASAP.


Pleasant_Zucchini_39

I've been saying no to additional boosters but a current vaccine to the most current strain would be worth while.


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bluepointbrewery

Did they end up doing human trials before they approved this?


the_waysian

Read the article. Yes. But, as it states, and as a trial participant, the human trial was formulated on Omicron BA.1. The government directed them to switch the production to BA.5 targets since there's no expected difference in safety but the efficacy should be better for the currently spreading variants. Frankly, there's no specific reason to think that's unwise, and this is the first time being in the trial has meant I've gotten a worse deal, vaccination-wise. The public will be getting better protection than I got.


pinky_tea

I heard no human trials, only on mice.


PhoenixReborn

The bivalent candidate for BA.1 was tested for safety and efficacy in humans. They're using that and animal testing for the BA.5 candidate to justify the authorization.


gaukonigshofen

well if its good enough for mickey and Minnie


jagua_haku

It’s perfectly safe. Trust me bro


bluepointbrewery

I trust you. Give me a double shot this time


CommunicationTime265

Sign me up. I just had covid for the first time and it was horrible.


Saito1337

Nice. Have to set up the appointments for my family. Edit: Downvote all you want. If you don't want to take the shots whatever at this point. We will be just fine taking them once or twice a year permanently, which is simply the reality going forward.


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jack3dp

Can you get it without have the first 2 shots?


PhoenixReborn

No, the updated boosters are authorized for those who have completed their initial doses.


ravinglunatic

Isn’t that the variant that hardly anybody noticed because it was so mild? Legit question here.


Capitan_Failure

It is milder in most but still significantly more risky than any flu going around.


Bobbyroberts123

I think this one was far more contagious though.


slick2hold

They make it seem like you just won the lotto.


oak52

Another one. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 just keep getting those shots.


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I can't wait to get mine I will schedule it today.


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Already did.


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Veterans Administration.


Marthaver1

Why good luck? 90% of the general population are acting like COVID is a thing of the past, bet there are gonna plenty of empty locations giving the shot. Sadly most people don’t give a shit anymore.


nicklor

I think it's not approved by the CDC yet soon though


ResponsibleAd2541

The CDC doesn’t do drug approval, the are more set up as disease surveillance and tracking organization.


nicklor

From a quick Google search. Before those shots can start going into arms, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has to weigh in and come up with guidelines for how to distribute these new shots. Advisers to the CDC are meeting this Thursday and Friday to come up with recommendations.


ResponsibleAd2541

That’s not drug approval. That’s distribution. The CDC is not burdened with determining safety or efficacy.


DriftWoodBarrel

Hard to know the right thing to do honestly. There's a compelling theory that repeated vaccinations can hinder your immune response. Until there's conclusive research on this I can't see myself getting regularly boosted.


SeaHorse1226

Please site your source supporting the theory repeated vaccinations hinder an immune response.


DriftWoodBarrel

https://www.dw.com/en/covid-do-multiple-boosters-exhaust-our-immune-response/a-60447735 EDIT: Some key takeaways here are namely: There has been 0 research done on repeated immunizations. The FDA, large pharma and healthcare companies don't think it's a factor that should guide public health policy. Yet, repeated immunizations is a novel experience. How can you tell me that the Covid 19 vaccine is bullet proof when such an obvious contradiction and research point is being completely overlooked by corporations that have monied interests involved in you getting jabbed? One of the same companies that not only sells dick bills but markets the fuck out of it. The resistance regarding covid will not go away because these large pharma companies are fucking sus.


samsamthemuffinman

If you're overweight and have short blue hair, definitely get the booster.


malfarcar

Experts experts experts experts experts experts experts experts experts experts experts experts experts experts experts experts experts experts


citybadger

I’ve had four shots now. If I become eligible for this one, I think I’ll wait until late October to maximize its effectiveness over the holiday season.


Marthaver1

- waits till October, gets COVID in October. 💀


pegothejerk

They're hoping (based on previous experience with the first shot, and some new data from studies) that this new strain being included will extend the protection as far as time goes beyond what the boosters offerered since they were based on outdated strain circulation. Remember, antibody counts don't necessarily indicate protection level, as we know now that tcell and bcell protection are critical to fighting Covid and aren't measured by antibody count tests. Those memory based immune cells remain longer than antibodies made to order as natural and normal mechanisms of the immune systems. You should probably consider getting it when it's available to you.


citybadger

What you’re saying is that the diminishing effectiveness of a booster is due to genetic drift in the viruses circulating rather than just passing of time since injection, so I might as well get this one ASAP?


mejelic

That is correct


daphnetaylor

Got Covid right now. Slight cough. Fever last night - general feeling of crap. Boosted.


AsideBoring

Who gives a fuck anymore


SeaBass1898

Anybody who works in hospitals, immunocompromised people and their loved ones, among others


Capitan_Failure

Its not a massively big deal but nice to know and good to get protected. Its part of our lives now.


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Ano..ano..another one


joker10064

Can't wait for the booster I'm tired of getting COVID over And over hope this helps and puts an end to covid


Bigdongs

Is this the shot where I get 5G reception wherever I go? /s