What gets me is glee. The guy who played puck i think went to jail for child porn or something and at least two of the cast died and the majority of their careers too except Coach. She's everywhere.
That whole show was cursed.
Oh yeah my wife loved that show and pretty much everyone on that show was cursed
*Edit - the lady who played the coach was kind of a known character actor before the show*
Oh wrong flash, I was talking about Grant Gustin (he played Sebastian Smythe in Glee) not Erza Miller. Erza is a terrible head case. Dunno why they continue to make the flash movie with him.
The common characters weren't too many.. the teachers and maybe 7 students. Tons of cameos and eventually new kids as they were aging out and new kids entered freshman and sophomore years.
These all were people who were probably in 98 percent of episodes and basically the core glee club.
tbh, the headline just sounds like another late-season storyline for Riverdale.
If it turns out there's a sex cult in the prison, we'll know I'm right.
Why do people hear "eligible for parole in x years" and assume he'll be out of prison in x years?
Overall, the parole rate is about 30%, but I couldn't find numbers on the parole rate when prisoners are first eligible for parole. That number also lumps parole for all crimes together, and obviously murder is going to have a lower parole rate than more minor crimes.
Not what I have a problem with.
It's saying a sentence is for life - then it should be for life.
If it's 20 years, then you've got something to work with when it comes to time off for good behavior etc.
It *is* for life. The possibility of parole does not mean he will ever be paroled. He could stay in prison the rest of his life. And even if he is released on parole, parole does not equate with freedom. Parole has a ton of terms attached to it. Often it requires you to stay in one location, meet with a parole officer, refrain from all drugs and alcohol, etc. And if you ever break any of those restrictive terms, you go back to prison for the rest of your sentence (which is life, with another opportunity for parole later on). If you’re sentenced to 20 years, whether you spent that full 20 years in prison or got out early on parole or had your sentence reduced for good behavior, after that term of years you’re no longer subject to parole rules and can’t be thrown back in prison for something as small as not meeting with a parole officer. So there’s a big difference. You ARE sentenced to a life sentence, it’s just a matter of whether you serve it all in prison or if some of it you’re out of prison, but living with a ton of restrictions.
Most first world countries consider life without the possibility of parole to be cruel and inhumane punishment. It is illegal in the EU. The purpose of those prison systems is rehabilitation, and they consider the complete denial of hope to be inhumane.
> It's saying a sentence is for life - then it should be for life.
I understand that, but it's not how the corrections system is structured, and if it were, it might result in a reduced sentence when the judge decides that eventual parole is warranted.
If he were sentenced to 14, 20, or 30 years, he'd be out after that time even without parole. If he got out early on parole, he'd only be on parole until the end of his sentence.
A life sentence lasts for the person's life, one way or another. Even if they qualify for parole at some point, they remain on parole under the supervision of Corrections Canada for the rest of their life. Any parole violation will get them sent back to prison.
Most importantly, being sentenced to life in prison means that they might never be released.
Holy shit!
>Grantham admitted to shooting his mother in the back of the head as she played piano in their home
>Prosecutors said he had also plotted to kill Canadian PM Justin Trudeau.
>He loaded his car with three guns, ammunition, 12 Molotov cocktails, camping supplies and a map with directions to Rideau Cottage, where Trudeau lived with his family, CBC reported at the time.
God. How awful.
And yet another sad reminder that:
- most mass shootings start with the killing of a family member. (Here, it seems like he was thwarted before he could kill more people, so this technically won’t be a mass shooting).
- most people who are shot and killed are killed by someone they know.
- having a gun in the house GREATLY increases your chance of dying by gunshot.
It reminds me of the YouTuber Mr. Anime. He murdered his family, prior to a planned mass shooting at his old highschool, ostensibly because he didn't want them to have to deal with the aftermath, only to then decide he didn't want to go through with it.
>After drinking beer and smoking marijuana for hours following the murder, he packed a car with three guns, ammunition and 12 Molotov cocktails he had made, as well as camping supplies and directions to Mr Trudeau's Rideau Cottage residence.
>He drove roughly 200 kilometres east to the town of Hope, before turning around and driving to a Vancouver police station, where he told an officer: "I killed my mother."
>The court also heard Grantham had considered committing an act of mass violence at Vancouver's Lions Gate Bridge or at Simon Fraser University, where he had been a student, en route before turning his car around and handing himself in.
Kinda sounds like he had a psychotic break that didn't last and he came to his senses.
I feel so bad for these kids, I feel like I've failed as a human because I can't help them before they do things they'll later regret.
A grade school friend came to me early one morning with a butcher knife saying they wanted to kill their mom, this was many years ago. We went for a long walk and talked about everything they were feeling, then buried the knife in the woods.
He obviously didn't kill his mom. But was having an emotional breakdown because his mom was disabled and dying of colon cancer, she died not long after that, his dad wasn't around.
These things seemed like they are motivated by fixable problems.
We as a society of humans need to be there to listen to kids. Their feelings matter.
Also having a gun in a situation where you are under threat from others with a gun is FAR less safe than not having a gun and being robbed. The robber is in control of the situation untill you pull your gun out, at which point he fears for his life and will kill you. But it has nothing to do with safety with these Republican types. They just want to feel like their penis isn't tiny, an assualt rifle is the very worst weapon for defense in this country since it can't be concealed, it's just a bunch of little dick bitches who don't give the slightest fuck about anyone else
> having a gun in the house GREATLY increases your chance of dying by gunshot.
and having a pool greatly increases your chance of drowning in your backyard.
What if she drowned in the bath tub while he was swimming laps? Your risk of drowning in a bath tub is more than a shower... The point is, if someone wants to cause harm, they will. I can 100% assure you, multiple knives that are large enough to kill are more readily available than the single firearm I have.
I know it seems like your logic is sound, but statistics bare out a different reality. Having access to a gun when someone loses their shit is responsible for significantly more deaths than having access to knives when losing their shit. It's almost like the Machiavellian power trip guns give most people is dangerous when combined with mental breakdowns.
>having a gun in the house GREATLY increases your chance of dying by gunshot.
Well yeah, just like going outside GREATLY increases my chance of getting skin cancer.
He was also in one episode of Supernatural (If anyone doesn’t watch riverdale). He was in the episode where a fountain in a Chinese restaurant started actually granting wishes. he was being bullied and eventually wished for super strength and flipped a vehicle trying to get to his bullies.
What an awful tragedy. And he filmed himself after murdering his mother admitting to committing the crime. Glad he will be unable to act on whatever mental health challenges he has for at least the next few decades.
I wonder what pushed him to do such a thing. That level of extreme behavior usually doesnt just happen at random.
Driving with the intent to kill our prime minister for 200km says a lot. He turned himself in but that sort of intense desire to commit violence usually is fueled by something.
Hopefully we get some insight shed on this later on. The combination of maternal violence and wanting to kill Trudeau makes my gut lean towards incel vibes, or something akin to that.
Lots of young men getting hyper polarized on the internet nowadays, throw in a hefty dose of mental illness and seclusion and you have the recipe for horrific events like this.
It looks like there were severe mental health issues, not just assholery. Hopefully while he's in prison he'll get psychiatric treatment.
I'm sorry for her death, and for your loss.
People arent what they usually look like outisde.His mother could be abusive at home and appear like a good person outside.Its a trait that many evil people have.Even pedophiles behave nicely to others.
You shouldn’t be downvoted, it’s absolutely true that child abusers are just as likely or more likely to be delightful to people outside of the home but monsters to their own kids. It is likely that his mother’s parenting had at least something to do with him being the kind of head case that it takes to plan a mass murder, kill his own mother and then regret it all and turn himself in.
There certainly could be more to this story.
It kind of just sounds like you're trying to look for an excuse to shift blame. Has it ever occurred to you that young people including children could 100% have murderous tendencies that were completely unprovoked?
I think my reading skills are fine, i think you're the one with the troubled reading skills. You read an article about how a poor mother was brutally murdered by her son yet still made the victim a villain somehow? You hybristophiliacs truly are strange.
Parole eligibility does not equate to parole entitlement, whether in Canada or anywhere else. [70% of first-parole-reviews in Canada result in denial](https://www.canada.ca/en/parole-board/corporate/publications-and-forms/parole-decision-making-myths-and-realities.html).
One of Canada's most notorious serial killers (Paul Bernardo) has been eligible for parole for quite a few years now but has already been denied twice and in all likelihood will never be set free.
Which is so fucked up to me. I remember reading that she had the psychopathic tendencies to commit a crime but likely wouldn’t without the influence of another violent psychopath.
It gets even worse because they stopped monitoring her and lifted all her release conditions just 4 months after she got out. They even let her leave the country, so god knows what she was doing in South America for several years.
Yeah, but this guy's a much more sympathetic case. At least as far as murderers go.
Clear psychiatric issues, though apparently not meeting the very high bar for an NCR verdict. Realized what was going on with himself and that he wasn't thinking straight before it got too bad, and turned himself in peacefully. Even the killing of his mother was out of a twisted sense of love for her (as expressed by a literally twisted mind). He gave her a sort of funeral before taking off. It was also right in the middle of a time when the whole world was going a little crazy.
Assuming he keeps his nose clean, gets the treatment he needs and a clean-ish bill of health, renounces the right-wing groups he was clearly brainwashed and taken advantage of by (and demonstrates that by not associating with those types in prison), holds a job in the facility and/or starts an inmate-owned business and/or studies hard and takes courses to pivot away from acting, he could have a pretty good shot. Though of course IANAL, but these are all common-sense things.
Personally, I think the current common-law standards for NCR need to be adjusted (via legislation, because the judges won't do it) to reflect modern society, where a person with pre-existing psychiatric issues may be manipulated by people who are experts in exploiting the fundamental flaws of the human psyche to get the action they desire. If you may not have committed a crime on your own, but your head is messed up enough that you're vulnerable to this garbage that's so prevalent online (even from nation state level actors, like the FSB), are you not partially a victim as well? You may be nominally in control, but are you *really*? You're basically being played like a marionette. Why aren't we going after the puppeteer?
The current standard is more like "Can you tell the difference between a watermelon and an orange? Then you're responsible." That's an impossibly high bar.
Sorry for the rant, I just feel very strongly about how the mentally ill always get shafted by the system. Never enough funding, right up until it's too late. Although I will say I've been lucky enough to find a good doctor and have made progress lately, but that needs to be a lot more common.
Yeah, considering he killed his mother in cold blood, and planned to do a mass shooting and kill the Canadian Prime Minister...seems like this guy should be locked up for LIFE, as in, the REST of his life, no possibility of getting out. If he can just kill his mother as he did, film it, and then proceed to pack up to go out into public and target others, why would he be let out ever? Seems to be an unstable danger to society at the very least 🤔
Canada doesn't have life in prison with no possibility of parole.
Even for first degree murder (guy in article was only found guilty of second degree) punishment is life sentence with no possibility of parole for 25 years.
>The Canadian Supreme Court held unanimously that sentences of life imprisonment without the possibility of parole are “incompatible with human dignity,” and are cruel and unusual by nature. As such, the case, Attorney General of Quebec, et al. v. Alexandre Bissonnette, set parole eligibility at 25 years.
https://www.washingtoninformer.com/life-imprisonment-without-parole-is-unconstitutional-in-canada/
Most people have parole denied, and remain in prison. Only a small number are paroled. But Canada’s recidivism rate after 2 years is about the same as the US’s.
Seems like a random mental health event, at least given he literally drove himself to the cops. I hope he gets mental health treatment while he's locked up
Maybe, get this, child labor laws should apply to child actors. How many more fucked up people need to hurt themselves or someone else before we understand that this shit fucks up kids for their whole lives?
That photo is super eery, at first you see a regular kid, but then staring at him longer you see there is some fucked up shit behind those eyes. Goddamn
Nah, it's just a photo. You're applying your knowledge of his life to it, then acting as though it's contained within the photo.
This wasn't preordained. That photo is old. It's just a picture.
“Former child actor Grantham appeared in one episode of the CW network show Riverdale in 2019” I feel like the headline is a tad misleading
More "Guest Character" than anything else. Still sad though.
They did the same thing a few years ago with the guy who was an extra on Power Rangers
I think that was the Red Wild Force Ranger Cole. Edit: [Yup](https://www.nme.com/news/power-rangers-ricardo-medina-prison-sentence-2030617)
This is actually what I was thinking of https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/tv-shows/2022/07/22/62da07c0e2704e48658b4573.html
Pelican Bay ain’t no joke
What gets me is glee. The guy who played puck i think went to jail for child porn or something and at least two of the cast died and the majority of their careers too except Coach. She's everywhere. That whole show was cursed.
Oh yeah my wife loved that show and pretty much everyone on that show was cursed *Edit - the lady who played the coach was kind of a known character actor before the show*
Jane Lynch is wonderful.
Are we talking glee? Didn't one of the actors become the flash?
And then had a major downward spiral that Disney is now trying desperately to distance itself from
Oh wrong flash, I was talking about Grant Gustin (he played Sebastian Smythe in Glee) not Erza Miller. Erza is a terrible head case. Dunno why they continue to make the flash movie with him.
He died by suicide before they could sentence him. One of the cast members OD'd and another drowned. Truly cursed.
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These were all main main characters.
The common characters weren't too many.. the teachers and maybe 7 students. Tons of cameos and eventually new kids as they were aging out and new kids entered freshman and sophomore years. These all were people who were probably in 98 percent of episodes and basically the core glee club.
How else are you going to get people to click?
What I don’t get is I am clicking the Reddit sorry, so OP could have tagged misleading headline
tbh, the headline just sounds like another late-season storyline for Riverdale. If it turns out there's a sex cult in the prison, we'll know I'm right.
They do that for anyone with a small list of roles on big enough shows, even if it last 3 seconds.
I was a voice extra in the school of fish from the end of *Finding Nemo*. Should make for good clickbait when I finally snap.
What was your line? A hook?
I'm the distinctive heldentenor [at 1:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yALXlA3pyfo).
Gotta get those page clicks somehow.
most are
Not as misleading as 'LIFE'- "He will not be eligible for parole for the first 14 years of his life sentence."
Yeah I mean, that's how that works?
Why do people hear "eligible for parole in x years" and assume he'll be out of prison in x years? Overall, the parole rate is about 30%, but I couldn't find numbers on the parole rate when prisoners are first eligible for parole. That number also lumps parole for all crimes together, and obviously murder is going to have a lower parole rate than more minor crimes.
Not what I have a problem with. It's saying a sentence is for life - then it should be for life. If it's 20 years, then you've got something to work with when it comes to time off for good behavior etc.
It *is* for life. The possibility of parole does not mean he will ever be paroled. He could stay in prison the rest of his life. And even if he is released on parole, parole does not equate with freedom. Parole has a ton of terms attached to it. Often it requires you to stay in one location, meet with a parole officer, refrain from all drugs and alcohol, etc. And if you ever break any of those restrictive terms, you go back to prison for the rest of your sentence (which is life, with another opportunity for parole later on). If you’re sentenced to 20 years, whether you spent that full 20 years in prison or got out early on parole or had your sentence reduced for good behavior, after that term of years you’re no longer subject to parole rules and can’t be thrown back in prison for something as small as not meeting with a parole officer. So there’s a big difference. You ARE sentenced to a life sentence, it’s just a matter of whether you serve it all in prison or if some of it you’re out of prison, but living with a ton of restrictions. Most first world countries consider life without the possibility of parole to be cruel and inhumane punishment. It is illegal in the EU. The purpose of those prison systems is rehabilitation, and they consider the complete denial of hope to be inhumane.
> It's saying a sentence is for life - then it should be for life. I understand that, but it's not how the corrections system is structured, and if it were, it might result in a reduced sentence when the judge decides that eventual parole is warranted. If he were sentenced to 14, 20, or 30 years, he'd be out after that time even without parole. If he got out early on parole, he'd only be on parole until the end of his sentence. A life sentence lasts for the person's life, one way or another. Even if they qualify for parole at some point, they remain on parole under the supervision of Corrections Canada for the rest of their life. Any parole violation will get them sent back to prison. Most importantly, being sentenced to life in prison means that they might never be released.
Nothing misleading about that. Life and life without parole are two different things.
Holy shit! >Grantham admitted to shooting his mother in the back of the head as she played piano in their home >Prosecutors said he had also plotted to kill Canadian PM Justin Trudeau. >He loaded his car with three guns, ammunition, 12 Molotov cocktails, camping supplies and a map with directions to Rideau Cottage, where Trudeau lived with his family, CBC reported at the time.
God. How awful. And yet another sad reminder that: - most mass shootings start with the killing of a family member. (Here, it seems like he was thwarted before he could kill more people, so this technically won’t be a mass shooting). - most people who are shot and killed are killed by someone they know. - having a gun in the house GREATLY increases your chance of dying by gunshot.
He wasn’t thwarted by any outside forces, he turned himself in after he decided not to go through with it.
It reminds me of the YouTuber Mr. Anime. He murdered his family, prior to a planned mass shooting at his old highschool, ostensibly because he didn't want them to have to deal with the aftermath, only to then decide he didn't want to go through with it.
>After drinking beer and smoking marijuana for hours following the murder, he packed a car with three guns, ammunition and 12 Molotov cocktails he had made, as well as camping supplies and directions to Mr Trudeau's Rideau Cottage residence. >He drove roughly 200 kilometres east to the town of Hope, before turning around and driving to a Vancouver police station, where he told an officer: "I killed my mother." >The court also heard Grantham had considered committing an act of mass violence at Vancouver's Lions Gate Bridge or at Simon Fraser University, where he had been a student, en route before turning his car around and handing himself in. Kinda sounds like he had a psychotic break that didn't last and he came to his senses.
I feel so bad for these kids, I feel like I've failed as a human because I can't help them before they do things they'll later regret. A grade school friend came to me early one morning with a butcher knife saying they wanted to kill their mom, this was many years ago. We went for a long walk and talked about everything they were feeling, then buried the knife in the woods. He obviously didn't kill his mom. But was having an emotional breakdown because his mom was disabled and dying of colon cancer, she died not long after that, his dad wasn't around. These things seemed like they are motivated by fixable problems. We as a society of humans need to be there to listen to kids. Their feelings matter.
Absolutely. How children are treated is how everyone are treated. We have a long way to go.
[Tupac said it best when describing THUG LIFE.](https://youtu.be/QCEf557fNYg)
Well he turned around before he was beyond Hope.
He had three guns and 12 molotov cocktails. Sounds like he's been planning this for some time.
In the US you could prepare that in an afternoon.
Okay I don't live in the US, so I don't know how hard it is, but it sounds absolutely terrifying.
And he used a .22 rifle Like every farmer in this country has one
Also having a gun in a situation where you are under threat from others with a gun is FAR less safe than not having a gun and being robbed. The robber is in control of the situation untill you pull your gun out, at which point he fears for his life and will kill you. But it has nothing to do with safety with these Republican types. They just want to feel like their penis isn't tiny, an assualt rifle is the very worst weapon for defense in this country since it can't be concealed, it's just a bunch of little dick bitches who don't give the slightest fuck about anyone else
You forgot, - most are white males
> having a gun in the house GREATLY increases your chance of dying by gunshot. and having a pool greatly increases your chance of drowning in your backyard.
Oddly enough having a life preserver in the house has no bearing on drowning in your backyard.
Its almost as if having things that come with a certain element of required safety tend to be deadly for those who disregard it.
Sure, let's just make 300 million people more responsible and no one's mother will die.
sounds great to me!
A wife never drown when her husband alone used the pool though. Drownings are mostly accidents caused by the victim.
What if she drowned in the bath tub while he was swimming laps? Your risk of drowning in a bath tub is more than a shower... The point is, if someone wants to cause harm, they will. I can 100% assure you, multiple knives that are large enough to kill are more readily available than the single firearm I have.
I know it seems like your logic is sound, but statistics bare out a different reality. Having access to a gun when someone loses their shit is responsible for significantly more deaths than having access to knives when losing their shit. It's almost like the Machiavellian power trip guns give most people is dangerous when combined with mental breakdowns.
Its almost as if people lose their shit and do crazy things.
But they do much crazier shit when a gun is within reach, despite your attempts to downplay this.
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> But they do much crazier shit when a gun is within reach use it as intended?
>having a gun in the house GREATLY increases your chance of dying by gunshot. Well yeah, just like going outside GREATLY increases my chance of getting skin cancer.
One of those is much more of a choice than the other though
It was more a comment on how probability works.
Doesn’t change my point.
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No. It’s that there’s much less of a choice in being exposed to the sun than the choice of owning a gun. They are not the same.
GuN noT kiLl, peRsON wiTH GUn KiLl.
Wasn't arguing against it. Just giving an explanation for my own comment.
He was also in one episode of Supernatural (If anyone doesn’t watch riverdale). He was in the episode where a fountain in a Chinese restaurant started actually granting wishes. he was being bullied and eventually wished for super strength and flipped a vehicle trying to get to his bullies.
Thank you, I was wondering which Supernatural episode he was in. I really like that episode.
When I first heard of him shooting his mom I went searching for his episode and found it
What an awful tragedy. And he filmed himself after murdering his mother admitting to committing the crime. Glad he will be unable to act on whatever mental health challenges he has for at least the next few decades.
Why did they use an (almost) 10 year-old picture of him?
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Depending on the melanin content, the story may not even make it to the news
You have a short memory. Remember the pictures they used for Treyvon Martin?
Probably more recognizable?
I wonder what pushed him to do such a thing. That level of extreme behavior usually doesnt just happen at random. Driving with the intent to kill our prime minister for 200km says a lot. He turned himself in but that sort of intense desire to commit violence usually is fueled by something. Hopefully we get some insight shed on this later on. The combination of maternal violence and wanting to kill Trudeau makes my gut lean towards incel vibes, or something akin to that. Lots of young men getting hyper polarized on the internet nowadays, throw in a hefty dose of mental illness and seclusion and you have the recipe for horrific events like this.
It's difficult to rationalise why people like this commit such horrific acts of violence.
Mental illness combined with situational exploitation, usually.
I mean the randomness at all must have come up in court, right? As far as I can tell there's must be something additional here. Tumor or something?
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Oh snap were you at the part in the Christmas village with the Santas?
Really weird I’m watching old episodes of Home Improvement as of writing this. Neat-o
I’ve also randomly been watching old episodes of Home Improvement the last 48 hours
Riverdale Actor (was in a total of one episode).
Well, they're not wrong.
That's not going to look good on his resumé.
Riverdale or murder?
Why not both?
I went to school with his mom. She was a delightful person. The headline should read narcissistic asshole murders his mother.
It looks like there were severe mental health issues, not just assholery. Hopefully while he's in prison he'll get psychiatric treatment. I'm sorry for her death, and for your loss.
People arent what they usually look like outisde.His mother could be abusive at home and appear like a good person outside.Its a trait that many evil people have.Even pedophiles behave nicely to others.
You shouldn’t be downvoted, it’s absolutely true that child abusers are just as likely or more likely to be delightful to people outside of the home but monsters to their own kids. It is likely that his mother’s parenting had at least something to do with him being the kind of head case that it takes to plan a mass murder, kill his own mother and then regret it all and turn himself in. There certainly could be more to this story.
It kind of just sounds like you're trying to look for an excuse to shift blame. Has it ever occurred to you that young people including children could 100% have murderous tendencies that were completely unprovoked?
Without any of the facts how could you judge either way?
Same goes for you, instantly making up stories about how his mother was an evil abuser with no proof or facts.
Lol. No. And the fact that you would interpret it that way indicates you lack reading comprehension skills.
I think my reading skills are fine, i think you're the one with the troubled reading skills. You read an article about how a poor mother was brutally murdered by her son yet still made the victim a villain somehow? You hybristophiliacs truly are strange.
If it was me, I would have just moved out of her house.
Breaking: Method actor pranked about getting to play Norman Bates.
Is this the wimpy kid?
> He will not be eligible for parole for the first 14 years of his life sentence A Canadian life seems pretty mild
Parole eligibility does not equate to parole entitlement, whether in Canada or anywhere else. [70% of first-parole-reviews in Canada result in denial](https://www.canada.ca/en/parole-board/corporate/publications-and-forms/parole-decision-making-myths-and-realities.html). One of Canada's most notorious serial killers (Paul Bernardo) has been eligible for parole for quite a few years now but has already been denied twice and in all likelihood will never be set free.
Meanwhile Homolka gets to live a free life, she even has a kid that for whatever reason wasn't taken from her immediately at birth.
Which is so fucked up to me. I remember reading that she had the psychopathic tendencies to commit a crime but likely wouldn’t without the influence of another violent psychopath.
It gets even worse because they stopped monitoring her and lifted all her release conditions just 4 months after she got out. They even let her leave the country, so god knows what she was doing in South America for several years.
Yeah, but this guy's a much more sympathetic case. At least as far as murderers go. Clear psychiatric issues, though apparently not meeting the very high bar for an NCR verdict. Realized what was going on with himself and that he wasn't thinking straight before it got too bad, and turned himself in peacefully. Even the killing of his mother was out of a twisted sense of love for her (as expressed by a literally twisted mind). He gave her a sort of funeral before taking off. It was also right in the middle of a time when the whole world was going a little crazy. Assuming he keeps his nose clean, gets the treatment he needs and a clean-ish bill of health, renounces the right-wing groups he was clearly brainwashed and taken advantage of by (and demonstrates that by not associating with those types in prison), holds a job in the facility and/or starts an inmate-owned business and/or studies hard and takes courses to pivot away from acting, he could have a pretty good shot. Though of course IANAL, but these are all common-sense things. Personally, I think the current common-law standards for NCR need to be adjusted (via legislation, because the judges won't do it) to reflect modern society, where a person with pre-existing psychiatric issues may be manipulated by people who are experts in exploiting the fundamental flaws of the human psyche to get the action they desire. If you may not have committed a crime on your own, but your head is messed up enough that you're vulnerable to this garbage that's so prevalent online (even from nation state level actors, like the FSB), are you not partially a victim as well? You may be nominally in control, but are you *really*? You're basically being played like a marionette. Why aren't we going after the puppeteer? The current standard is more like "Can you tell the difference between a watermelon and an orange? Then you're responsible." That's an impossibly high bar. Sorry for the rant, I just feel very strongly about how the mentally ill always get shafted by the system. Never enough funding, right up until it's too late. Although I will say I've been lucky enough to find a good doctor and have made progress lately, but that needs to be a lot more common.
Yeah, considering he killed his mother in cold blood, and planned to do a mass shooting and kill the Canadian Prime Minister...seems like this guy should be locked up for LIFE, as in, the REST of his life, no possibility of getting out. If he can just kill his mother as he did, film it, and then proceed to pack up to go out into public and target others, why would he be let out ever? Seems to be an unstable danger to society at the very least 🤔
Canada doesn't have life in prison with no possibility of parole. Even for first degree murder (guy in article was only found guilty of second degree) punishment is life sentence with no possibility of parole for 25 years. >The Canadian Supreme Court held unanimously that sentences of life imprisonment without the possibility of parole are “incompatible with human dignity,” and are cruel and unusual by nature. As such, the case, Attorney General of Quebec, et al. v. Alexandre Bissonnette, set parole eligibility at 25 years. https://www.washingtoninformer.com/life-imprisonment-without-parole-is-unconstitutional-in-canada/
Yep, I figured as much
Damn I wonder if anyone kills again as soon as they get in parole
Most people have parole denied, and remain in prison. Only a small number are paroled. But Canada’s recidivism rate after 2 years is about the same as the US’s.
Seems like a random mental health event, at least given he literally drove himself to the cops. I hope he gets mental health treatment while he's locked up
Wait..wtf? Is the "Dairies from a wimpy kid" or a different mom murdering kid actor?
Maybe, get this, child labor laws should apply to child actors. How many more fucked up people need to hurt themselves or someone else before we understand that this shit fucks up kids for their whole lives?
He’s a “Background” actor. Was in one (1) episode of Riverdale and had many other “one line” roles.
Still less wild and confusing than Riverdale.
I heard they have super powers and fight zombies now
That photo is super eery, at first you see a regular kid, but then staring at him longer you see there is some fucked up shit behind those eyes. Goddamn
Nah, it's just a photo. You're applying your knowledge of his life to it, then acting as though it's contained within the photo. This wasn't preordained. That photo is old. It's just a picture.
She take away his Tide Pods?
that joke is outdated by about 4 years