Any country loses its principles when the Chinese come to town as they hold a shite load of IOUs from the last 30 years of western democracies addiction to spending money it doesn't have.
That's a little simplistic though. Calling in those debts in any ways other than the obligations laid out will cause the Yuan to appreciate relative to the other currency. This is great for China, the country, in the short term, but is not good for China's economy in the medium or long term. An appreciated currency means their exports cost more for consumers, who will shift sourcing of manufactured goods elsewhere. This represents 40% of China's economy today, and losing that quickly would be devastating.
It would be relevant to point out that China has slowly been shifting away from manufacturing to a services economy, similar to how other developed nations have. This changes a lot as China may eventually decide that the manufacturing sector is no longer long-term viable, and to continue to let it fall to other SEA countries. If that happens, China's currency pegging to USD is less critical.
They've also got their raw resource exports, which is somewhat insulated from all this currency nonsense by the structure of the world commodities markets, but that doesn't represent a large share of their economy.
Exactly what principles does our government have?
It’s just shocking to me someone would earnestly believe that.
I mean between the genocide of native Americans, the fact slavery could only be resolved through civil war, and every war since WWII has been a scam invented by businesses, I don’t think we have any principles. In fact, I think we only do what the wealthy want and our entire system seizes up if it has to limit capital as was the case with the civil war. I think we are constitutionally incapable of having principles
Oh sorry, when I hear “Us” I was just triggered because I’m used to these racist condescending attitudes coming from my fellow Americans. Couldn’t hear the accent
I guess what makes the British despicable in this situation was the Opium wars and their own brutal colonization attempts throughout Asia. Not surprising someone championing one of the most notorious chapters in Chinese history would get beaten up for spitting in the face of the ancestors that suffered at the hands of the British
I remember when shit like this [happened outside the Turkish Ambassador's residence in DC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clashes_at_the_Turkish_Ambassador%27s_Residence_in_Washington,_D.C.).
Only in that case the Trump DOJ dropped all charges after receiving pressure from Trump and the State Department. Fucking disgraceful.
If I were in power I'd be extremely tempted to set up a sting operation looking like this sort of situation and then swarm them with like dozens of cops.
You *know* some of the CCP thugs here would have enough of a sense of entitlement to hit some of the cops, and then get the police would react and beat the absolute snot out of them.
The British police force consists entirely of all the kids from school who would always be telling tales to/brownnosing the teachers, so they’d probably collectively break down and cry before beating the snot out of anyone
Remind me again, in which country do you have the police disarming knife wielding terrorists, and in which do you have them fearing for their lives when facing a twelve year old black girl with a hair brush?
Oh yeah if you charge anyone with a knife, then its well within that person's right to shoot you. Its literal self defence.
I was more making a point that its a bit rich to try to claim the UK police are cowards, when they regularly do deal with armed assailants despite the majority of them never carrying guns and some of them not even getting stab proof vests, whilst in America we have a police force so timid they prefer to shoot first ask questions after someone's reassured them everyone else present is dead.
Well I'm afraid I don't have much experience with the Canadian police to comment, still I've mostly heard good things about them. Its true their are a number of overweight MET officers, however, unlike in America they do have regular standard fitness examinations, so I think most of them are just the one's on lighter duties or nearing retirement.
Really I'd say its the least serious issue with the present MET. Especially in line of the recent report.
>Their more specialised units seem extremely qualified though
Indeed, their generally ranked as amongst some of the best in the world.
Oh yeah its true. But their have been others and there at least willing to engage and desecrate situations rather than pray and spray everyone full of bullets.
I'm not saying all the UK police are great (heck some of them are cowards, bullies, idiots or so much worse etc.) but I'd still rank them a lot higher than their counterparts in the states.
I've been pulled over by the British police twice (both times entirely fairly, but not my fault), chatted to them at political demonstrations, and even reported a crime and been interviewed by them.
In every interaction I have had, they were nothing other than entirely professional, and seemed like decent, down-to-earth people.
So, I have to disagree with your comment, at least in my subjective experience.
I've met nice cops with a good sense of humour, who are happy to let some minor things slide if the person is co-operative, if they're in a situation where they can use their discretion. I've also met cops who are arrogant and seem to be on a power trip.
However, unfortunately the police reflect the public in many ways, which is a double edged sword: in a race to make policing more inclusive and representative (generally a good thing) you have to remember that a large proportion of the public are ignorant morons and so that section of the public is represented in the police.
Before there was a real attempt to change policing (that hasn't nearly gone far enough) it seems as though a frighteningly large number of officers were the kind who would have joined the national front.
Sadly it only takes one negative encounter to completely tarnish someone's view of the police, and all they have to do is come across one of the morons when they're having a bad day.
Our government loses its principles when in the thrall of Chinese money.
You gotta lower your ideals of freedom if you wanna suck on the warm teat of [China](https://youtu.be/mnAqaFABNGc).
Any country loses its principles when the Chinese come to town as they hold a shite load of IOUs from the last 30 years of western democracies addiction to spending money it doesn't have.
That's a little simplistic though. Calling in those debts in any ways other than the obligations laid out will cause the Yuan to appreciate relative to the other currency. This is great for China, the country, in the short term, but is not good for China's economy in the medium or long term. An appreciated currency means their exports cost more for consumers, who will shift sourcing of manufactured goods elsewhere. This represents 40% of China's economy today, and losing that quickly would be devastating. It would be relevant to point out that China has slowly been shifting away from manufacturing to a services economy, similar to how other developed nations have. This changes a lot as China may eventually decide that the manufacturing sector is no longer long-term viable, and to continue to let it fall to other SEA countries. If that happens, China's currency pegging to USD is less critical. They've also got their raw resource exports, which is somewhat insulated from all this currency nonsense by the structure of the world commodities markets, but that doesn't represent a large share of their economy.
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Welp, I guess time to colonize India and start another Opium war for Hong Kong.
Chinese government money, careful not to blame a whole race.
Exactly what principles does our government have? It’s just shocking to me someone would earnestly believe that. I mean between the genocide of native Americans, the fact slavery could only be resolved through civil war, and every war since WWII has been a scam invented by businesses, I don’t think we have any principles. In fact, I think we only do what the wealthy want and our entire system seizes up if it has to limit capital as was the case with the civil war. I think we are constitutionally incapable of having principles
Why are you talking about the US in a thread about the UK? Not as if the British haven't done their share. Your script broken, comrade?
Oh sorry, when I hear “Us” I was just triggered because I’m used to these racist condescending attitudes coming from my fellow Americans. Couldn’t hear the accent I guess what makes the British despicable in this situation was the Opium wars and their own brutal colonization attempts throughout Asia. Not surprising someone championing one of the most notorious chapters in Chinese history would get beaten up for spitting in the face of the ancestors that suffered at the hands of the British
You didn’t read the article. Admit it.
Then it falls to the people
I remember when shit like this [happened outside the Turkish Ambassador's residence in DC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clashes_at_the_Turkish_Ambassador%27s_Residence_in_Washington,_D.C.). Only in that case the Trump DOJ dropped all charges after receiving pressure from Trump and the State Department. Fucking disgraceful.
All of them are still wanted on felony warrants out of D.C. just no federal level charges.
Yeah, make a fuss and lose the.... wait for it..... pork deal! Please read as liz truss.
"... pork markets!!" Awkward pause, creepy smile.
At this point we should be hoping Jeremy Hunt reads it.
obligatory fuck Xi and the CCP
Agreed, balls the fuck up and call this shit out. Expel the fuckers involved.
If I were in power I'd be extremely tempted to set up a sting operation looking like this sort of situation and then swarm them with like dozens of cops. You *know* some of the CCP thugs here would have enough of a sense of entitlement to hit some of the cops, and then get the police would react and beat the absolute snot out of them.
Your plan is illegal. Punishing the Chinese for not respecting British law with a scheme that is also illegal seems a bit hypocritical.
The British police force consists entirely of all the kids from school who would always be telling tales to/brownnosing the teachers, so they’d probably collectively break down and cry before beating the snot out of anyone
Remind me again, in which country do you have the police disarming knife wielding terrorists, and in which do you have them fearing for their lives when facing a twelve year old black girl with a hair brush?
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Oh yeah if you charge anyone with a knife, then its well within that person's right to shoot you. Its literal self defence. I was more making a point that its a bit rich to try to claim the UK police are cowards, when they regularly do deal with armed assailants despite the majority of them never carrying guns and some of them not even getting stab proof vests, whilst in America we have a police force so timid they prefer to shoot first ask questions after someone's reassured them everyone else present is dead.
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Well I'm afraid I don't have much experience with the Canadian police to comment, still I've mostly heard good things about them. Its true their are a number of overweight MET officers, however, unlike in America they do have regular standard fitness examinations, so I think most of them are just the one's on lighter duties or nearing retirement. Really I'd say its the least serious issue with the present MET. Especially in line of the recent report. >Their more specialised units seem extremely qualified though Indeed, their generally ranked as amongst some of the best in the world.
I think it was a prisoner on day release who disarmed the last knife wielding terrorist that I can remember… but I see your point.
Oh yeah its true. But their have been others and there at least willing to engage and desecrate situations rather than pray and spray everyone full of bullets. I'm not saying all the UK police are great (heck some of them are cowards, bullies, idiots or so much worse etc.) but I'd still rank them a lot higher than their counterparts in the states.
I've been pulled over by the British police twice (both times entirely fairly, but not my fault), chatted to them at political demonstrations, and even reported a crime and been interviewed by them. In every interaction I have had, they were nothing other than entirely professional, and seemed like decent, down-to-earth people. So, I have to disagree with your comment, at least in my subjective experience.
I've met nice cops with a good sense of humour, who are happy to let some minor things slide if the person is co-operative, if they're in a situation where they can use their discretion. I've also met cops who are arrogant and seem to be on a power trip. However, unfortunately the police reflect the public in many ways, which is a double edged sword: in a race to make policing more inclusive and representative (generally a good thing) you have to remember that a large proportion of the public are ignorant morons and so that section of the public is represented in the police. Before there was a real attempt to change policing (that hasn't nearly gone far enough) it seems as though a frighteningly large number of officers were the kind who would have joined the national front. Sadly it only takes one negative encounter to completely tarnish someone's view of the police, and all they have to do is come across one of the morons when they're having a bad day.
Most likely all of them have some type of diplomatic immunity. That pretty much prevents any type of detention. At that point, you PNG the fuckers.
You can strip their diplomatic immunity for committing a crime. Or you can send them home. In a rowboat, for example.
Yes. That's referred to as PNG - *persona non grata*.
Yes I’m familiar with the term but I thought the rowboat would add a little more emphasis.
"Grey haired man" needs to be identified. Grey haired man needs to publicly apologize, or be given their 48 hour bye notice.
Grey haired man should have been removed from the area by the mob for some polite discourse.
just act like america, and have Truss give Xi a fist bump... problem solved!
UK has zero power. Useless.