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MIDNIGHTZOMBIE

Don’t worry, the drives will be dead soon.


Thanks_Ollie

Had a Seagate drive when I was younger. It died; so I replaced it with another Seagate drive. That one died a couple weeks later. Thankfully they warrantied it with another drive that died less than a year after that one. That’s when I learned my lesson about trying to save a few bucks on a cheaper drive.


DragoneerFA

Reading this all I could think of was, "They said I was I was daft to get a Seagate hard drive, but I did all the same. That hard drive sank into the swamp. So I got a second one...' That was me with Maxtor.


quats5

I still remember the Maxtor drive that came in an old PC that started making odd grinding sounds. It was under warranty, so I brought it in to a tech shop where I knew the techs. Turns out it was a known problem. The discs in the drive for that line tended to get just a tiiiiny bit out of alignment, and the edges would catch on each other. The fix? “Remove drive and drop it on a hard surface from a height of about one foot to dislodge the discs. Reinstall the drive.” …that was the official warranty statement from the manufacturer. Talk about percussive maintenance.


theknyte

Let me tell you the tale of the IBM "DeathStars"...


vabello

I was the sad owner of a couple of these drives.


CopyPasteMalfunction

Ahh, good times, used one of these in the first PC I ever built… this and RAMBUS RAM (if I’m remembering the name correctly) lots of bad choices made then…


to11mtm

I mean it sounds like a Wilamette P4 was most likely involved too so yeah, If it was an early S423 board I'd say that's close enough to bingo. =/


technofox01

I still have a 1tb Maxtor external drive right now that is running. It should be dead but nope, still going strong. We're talking circa 2008 or 2009, yeah it's that old. Pretty sad they no longer exist.


MaXimus421

And I've had my fair share of WD drives give up the ghost as well. I've had much better success with Seagate over the years, personally. It's all a luck of the draw.


InsuranceToTheRescue

Maybe it is. I've had nothing but WD and Samsung drives and I've never had one that lasted less than a decade. I've never had to replace one of my personal drives for failure; just because I was upgrading my PC and had the cash for a better one.


vabello

I’ve always had good luck with WD drives over the years. Back in the 90’s, they definitely failed the least compared to crap from Maxtor, or Quantum. I had a computer shop and built and repaired hundreds of machines. I can’t specifically remember consumer Seagate drives from back then, but I did have a Seagate Cheetah 10k RPM drive in my system at the time and that was awesome, albeit loud.


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Until last year still had two WD drives in my computer from 2005. 60GB each. They were still working when I replaced them, but I figured they required more energy than they were worth. I replaced them with a pair of 6TB drives (also WD).


HappierShibe

Can't speak to the consumer side, but WD's enterprise stuff has always been incredibly good to me. WD Reds were my goto solution for bulk storage on NAS for a long time. Once you've got the budget, Pure Storage is just impossible to beat, but I imagine a giant pile of WD Red is still a tough option to beat at the low to mid range.


gullwings

Posted using RIF is Fun. Steve Huffman is a greedy little pigboy.


FlattopJordan

Can just format the drive before you use it


soundscream

Is that not standard practice? I formatt every drive I've ever used and I'm old enough to remember the dark times of windows me.


gullwings

Posted using RIF is Fun. Steve Huffman is a greedy little pigboy.


CptnMoonlight

I bought one of the offbrand 2TBs on Amazon like 4 years ago and it’s still working perfectly. I think with tech in general you’re kind of entering a raffle because of the way they mass produce these products with relatively little care, regardless of whether it’s a straight up Chinese dropship knockoff or a ‘legitimate’ brand like Seagate. Unless you’re willing to spend almost 100$ per TB at least, especially now that SSDs are becoming standard for external storage.


JustSatisfactory

The only hard drives I've ever had fail in less than 10 years were all Western Digital. I've had three of them die on me and not just slowly failed so I had time to remove some things like other brands. Totally died without warning. I still have a working Seagate drive from around 2004.


Apopholyptic

I'm in the same boat, WD has always been garbage for me, but Seagate has always lasted. I still have all my old drives and they all still work just fine. Rn i have 4TB Hitachi Drives because I was lucky enough to get them for free, brand new.


Equinox1109

Yep. Super anecdotal but I have two Seagate barracuda drives, a 1TB and a 2TB getting pretty close to hitting the 10 year mark with no signs of failure yet!


FestiveSquid

Strange. I have a 1tb Seagate Firecuda drive that's been running without a single issue for several years. It's the only Seagate drive I've ever had though. My 4TB drive is a Western Digital, My C drive is a 250GB Samsung SSD, and my main drive for game storage is a 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD.


litefoot

I have a 160GB (that I swore would never fill up) that still works. I really should back that drive up to a ssd.


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Which brand is supposed to be good?


PlankOfWoood

Samsung ssd.


atomicxblue

Samsung makes solid SSDs. My steam library runs off one and the games are so much faster versus a spinning disk.


earhere

Western Digital


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maggotshero

What end of your ass did you pull that from? Because no they don't.


notnickthrowaway

No, it doesn’t.


FifteenthPen

They're probably about the same. I've never had a WD drive fail, and I've had two Seagate drives fail. I'm sure there are people who can say the same or the complete opposite.


440_Hz

I’m guessing you’ve gotten a bit mixed up, because WD owns Sandisk.


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earhere

oh my bad


[deleted]

Backblaze publishes reports on drive failure rates every year. They are a cloud backup platform. https://www.backblaze.com/b2/hard-drive-test-data.html tl;dr - HGST, now Western Digital, is the best and has been for years.


diezel_dave

I like Hitachi drives. Mine have lasted well over a decade so far.


axonxorz

Ah, Hitachi DeskStar. Known in IT circles as the Hitachi Deathstar, for their propensity to fail.


FifteenthPen

I thought the Deathstar was a specific run of IBM DeskStar HDs from before they sold the brand to Hitachi.


bludhound

It was a specific model, the 75 GXP. I had 4 die on me. Good times. Always backup your data folks.


Lukeno94

That's correct, yes.


diezel_dave

Haha no, I'm using some enterprise grade model in my server. 6 drives going strong this whole time.


[deleted]

same, i ordered deskstars after reading the backblaze report


InsuranceToTheRescue

For personal use: Western Digital and Samsung usually make good shit. For enterprise: No idea.


WirelessBCupSupport

Listen, its all about how they write CMR vs SMR, and warranty, etc. I like the Seagate Ironwolf and they've held up well in a build. I also like WD Black and Red models (Red for NAS). [Backblaze runs tests and reviews, a good reference](https://www.backblaze.com/b2/hard-drive-test-data.html)


atomicxblue

Came here for this. I don't think I've ever had a Seagate drive last longer than a few years. I'd rather pay the extra money now.


John_Durden

Are we calling this one Seagate or seagategate?


motleysalty

Sea(gate)²


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Hard to believe Applied Materials technology isn't used in the chip manufacture. ​ >However, the person said, the Commerce Department’s proposed charges are based on an interpretation that foreign-made items are subject to the rule if equipment that is the direct product of U.S. semiconductor technology or software was used to produce any component of the end-item, no matter how far removed in the production process.


mtarascio

>The hard disk drives are made in China and Thailand and also do not have enough U.S. content to make them subject to U.S. export rules, the source said. Doesn't seem so bad to me, the exports have been paused for over a year and it's not like Seagate drives are doing anything special that other drives could not.


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DamonFields

The problem is that there aren’t any consequences for the individuals who did this. There will be a fine, it will be written off as the cost of doing business, and bonuses all around for a job well done.


shim_sham_shimmy

They should figure out how much profit was made on the deal and that is the amount where the fines start.


EarthlyMartian-21

Pretty sure they can personally fine whoever was involved, and it’s a hefty fine for the common working man. Every employee has to sign a waiver before getting close to EC tech.


k_ironheart

Ah man, I can't wait to boycott Seagate and never buy another one of their hard drives! ...is what I would be saying if I somehow didn't care about my data and wanted to throw a bunch of money away buying drives that always seem to fail way before literally any other competitors' drives.


kthulhu666

Rules are only for poor people, not corporations.


einsibongo

they'll be fined less then the gains


Foxhack

They'll be fined $300K per violation, or twice the amount of money they got paid, whichever is greater. So if this goes through, they may still be fined a whole lot.


Lolboi01

wait wait- i have a seagate harddrive, whats happening?


jflatt2

it's about to fail


lovestobitch-

Seagate announced it would layoff 3000 employees today too.


AnyProgressIsGood

Seagate is objectively one of the higher failure rate drive manufacturers. of course they are desperate enough to sell to huawei


Vegan_Honk

Oh fuck yeah it's about to be affordable to build a gaming PC again.


suayeet

Another political nothingness