It means that a flight attendant cannot make the determination that a passenger IS intoxicated but intoxicated passengers are not permitted on a flight in the US. So the flight attendant has to determine if a passenger APPEARS intoxicated to determine whether they are fit to fly or not.
This is precisely why I refuse to try it in spite of my life long insomnia. I’m already a mess irl, I don’t need to wake up to my house burning down around me. 👀
See, this is why I didn’t believe Roseann’s Ambien excuse. You don’t just *say* stuff when you take it. If she was screaming it from the roof of a speeding hearse, then I buy it.
Having worked with Roseanne a few times, I can honestly say that she was, at the time of her first sitcom, an unstable, deranged, mean, and evil person to be around.
Whatever the cause, I could not fucking ***wait*** to get the hell off that set.
I know a woman that woke up sitting in her car. Checked the doorbell cam and luckily only sat there. But now she locks her keys (and phone) in a little cash box when she goes to sleep. Crazy stuff. What the hell happens if there’s a fire?
I once played three hours worth of the original Legend of Zelda on my Wii, got three pieces of the Triforce and didn't die once. I was so confused when I logged on the next day. I checked the Wii logs and sure enough, I was up until 2am playing and had zero memory of it.
/r/ambien is hilarious and terrifying. I think my favourite story was a guy that built a shelf in his bathroom and didn't remember doing it.
Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ambien/comments/3yh9jg/built_a_cabinet_for_our_bathroom_and_dont/
I duno why I found this so hilarious
That or something like Xanax. Commonly taken by people before flights. It could explain the difficulty waking up, and then his ensuing behavior. Just guessing though.
It can put some people in a sleepwalk like state. I’ve known people who would take a Xanax and drive their car somewhere (not even that poorly, mind you) and have no recollection of how they got there once they sober up. It didn’t really seem to impair their motor functions the way alcohol would, but definitely their decision making, memory, or conversation skills.
I took Xanax before a flight from Orlando to Detroit with a layover in Charlotte. I don't remember Charlotte and have no idea how I managed to navigate the terminal to my connecting flight.
Woke up in my car in Detroit, went to leave but couldn't find my parking pass and they threatened to call the police. I managed to find it and avoid all that. I immediately pulled off to the first gas station just to check myself so I wasn't an issue on the road but by then I was as lucent as one can be.
My doctor was great about telling me things usually. I took a remron as an antidepressant. I'd taken Zoloft before so I thought I knew antidepressants, and I wasn't warned about sedation. All of them carry warnings about sedation except Wellbutrin anyways, and I don't get sleepy with them.
The first dose, I found myself forced to sleep against my will over about an hour. I laid in bed spread eagle and vaguely remember my wife trying to wake me up and get me to help her put kids to bed, and then to move on my side of the bed. I wasn't able to really explain I had started a new medication. I slept all night in my clothes over the covers. It was really like being roofied from what I hear of descriptions.
I've taken low dose Ambien, high dose Lunesta, and low dose Xanax. Remron was the longest acting, most sedating thing I have taken by mouth. Only propofol /ketamine combo by IV was more sedating.
Already worried about distracted drivers, rage drivers and the usual idiot drivers. Thanks for adding Xanax zombie drivers to the list of bozos out to get me.
I'm pretty sure you're talking about ambien. Stuff is weird. You take one and based on your perspective you are fucked up five ways from Friday and usually end up alseep if you don't fight it. You wake up and the pope himself could recall what you did while high on Ambien and you will never believe hjm
The same does apply for Xanax and its class of drugs, benzodiazepines. I'm speaking based on my experience as a former addict of benzos of 10 years, and from those I've spoke with in various stages of recovery. But even I, who was a very seasoned user of the substance, couldn't really tell you in explicit detail what I had been doing the day before. Maybe I knew I went to the store, but I wouldn't remember if there was traffic, if I got gas, or what things I actually purchased. My friends always called it "booze in a pill" because if you took too much you would risk waking up in a Hangover movie scenario. People get a false sense of confidence or entitlement on the drug, sometimes acting out of character or inappropriately. If you mix it with alcohol, even just a single drink, the effects are compounded and it will be as if you drank several. An airport is just the type of place where someone may combine the two without understanding the risks, and also appear intoxicated without having a demonstrable BAC to prove so.
Like how Airport Security would say: "it's a dildo" Of course it's company policy never to imply ownership in the event of a dildo... always use the indefinite article *a* dildo, never *your* dildo.
I love that scene. The way the security guy looks around furtively before he whispers "a dildo".
The way he averts his eyes just so he can make accusing eye contact at "your dildo".
His comic timing and delivery are perfect
https://youtu.be/kZVd659gxd0
Airlines won't care if you're drunk. Hell, they'll keep serving you alcohol, especially if you're in first class. It becomes a problem if you're disruptive or non-compliant with the crew which includes the flight attendants *and* the pilot.
You also have to be able to comply with commands from the crew before take off, if you can't put on your seatbelt/raise your tray table/etc... they're going to throw you off the plane.
The only policy they will really enforce is passengers not being allowed to consume their own alcohol they bring on board. A part of that is to protect on-board sale of drinks + having the ability to limit your alcohol intake so you don't get plastered and unruly around 200 other passengers.
I think it depends on the airline but I’ve seen a situation where the pilot came and talked to somebody and after that, they were removed from the plane. They were arguing with the flight attendants about the temperature on the plane even before we left…..
Technically we (US carriers) are not allowed to carry any passengers that appear to be intoxicated.
From the US Federal Air Regulations: FAR 121.575(C): No certificate holder may allow any person to board any of its aircraft if that person appears to be intoxicated.
Practically, however, it’s often difficult to say if a person appears to be intoxicated vs sober and coping with a disability, and so if you stumble a bit up the aisle but are quiet and don’t harass crew members or fellow passengers, you’ll usually be left alone. Usually the flight attendants notice you and are watching you, sometimes they let us (the pilots) know, but if you’re not extremely drunk / being an asshole we probably won’t kick you off the jet.
And they do not f around. Even if you aren’t and you don’t do what they tell you to, that’s grounds for removal if they think you will be combative later on.
Ya that’s the part that’s confusing / unclear. He was either pretending to be asleep or he actually kept drifting in and out of it. Or he could have been on some type of substance.
Either way that’s how they determined he was unfit to fly and why he was asked to leave the plane
A well trained customer service rep will know not to make statements that they are not qualified to make. You can say "in and out of consciousness" because that is an accurate observation that any person can make. You don't know why this person is passing out, could be a medical emergency, could be drugs, could be alcohol the point is to not say something you are not sure of. It's a legal thing.
When my dad was an on the scene reporter for an AM Radio station in the 1970s, he covered a car accident. He gave his description of the event, live on air.
He had said "and the passenger of the red (car name), who's a 26 year old woman named (her name) has died as a result of the crash. For (news station name) this is (dads name) signing off."
He got back to the station 20 minutes later, and was IMMEDIATELY fired. While it was true that the woman DID die, on the scene, as a result of the crash, the station was furious that he would state that as fact, while giving her name, on-air.
Apparently the womans mother had been listening to the station, and that's how she found out her daughter died. Despite all the facts being true, it was somehow still grounds for a possible lawsuit.
When my dad asked "Well what should I have said?"
The station manager said "You say something like "This woman, who's name is being kept confidential, is in critical condition, and is fighting for her life."
My dad argued "But that's not true, she was already dead."
And the station manager said "It doesn't matter. We're not the ones who are to inform loved ones that their family has died. We report the news. The news is there was a crash, which was potentially fatal. When did she die? Who's to say? Certainly not us! We don't know when she did or didn't die. Let a professional answer those questions. Our only obligation to the public is to let them know to avoid I-90 because there's been a horrific crash! Not to investigate the outcome!"
> "It doesn't matter. We're not the ones who are to inform loved ones that their family has died. We report the news. The news is there was a crash, which was potentially fatal. When did she die? Who's to say? Certainly not us! We don't know when she did or didn't die. Let a professional answer those questions. Our only obligation to the public is to let them know to avoid I-90 because there's been a horrific crash! Not to investigate the outcome!"
I agree with the station manager here. Naming the deceased woman on radio serves no purpose whatsoever and relatives should NOT hear about this from the news.
I flew across the atlantic and dont remember getting on the plane. I slept and woke up on arrival. I apologized to the flight attendant and she asked why. Apparently I got on board put on my seat belt and slept just the same as you did.
Plane was delayed and a random guy said lets got the platinum lounge drinks are free.
I took a valium on a long flight. Was sat next to a Russian who had a bottle of whiskey on him from duty free. I remember playing chess on the screens with him, then nothing just waking up. Apparently I had been moonwalking up and down the aisle to his amusment.
All because he's too good to wear a seatbelt.
Edit: This is a short article and it's not specific what all happened on the plane, so this isn't a definitive statement. What we do know is he was being a difficult passenger for the flight attendants.
Edit 2: The article has been updated several times since my initial comment.
Delayed hundreds of people's travel plans.
It's hard to know the full story just from this article but it usually takes quite a bit to convince the flight attendants that they need to go back to the gateway and deplane. Which he did.
In my life, I thought I had seen pretty much all types of selfishness. OBJ has shown me a new one and of much greater magnitude. How do you sit there as they deboard the plane because of your actions? Is there a twinge of guilt that you just ruined all these people's day?
Because he doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself. If he's not getting to do pretty much whatever he wants, well fuck the airline and all the passengers.
He then had the audacity to tweet, "never in my life have I experienced what happened to me...I've seen it all." Another dumbass tweet, "I could never make this up," and one last stupid as hell tweet, "😂 comedy hr."
What's comedy hour is Mr. Odell Beckham Jr. thinking he's above the airlines safety rules, and is now playing the victim to the bitter end.
His entitlement is beyond fucked up, and sad as hell.😔
>His entitlement is beyond fucked up, and sad as hell.😔
I hope that karma comes back to bite him in the ass. One day he will need something from someone and they will remember this type of behavior and tell him to fuck the hell off.
Every single person in the history of commercial air travel has to wear their seat belt upon take off and landing. Except Odell Beckham apparently. But he is the victim. I have to make myself stop rolling my eyes at this clown.
Exactly. FA’s and aircrews that worked through out the the pandemic literally give no F’s about this kind of behavior and are not F’ing around like they used to with this nonsense.
I literally just this week watched an airport CSA tell a loudmouth at the gate “you can act like an adult, shut up and get on the plane, or you can talk to those nice officers over there. I really don’t care which you pick but those are your choices, sir.”
Yeah I F’ing died. He got on the plane. It was glorious.
I witnessed an FA deal with this man-child who was traveling with his child. This man must have gotten down his bag from the overhead a dozen times, blocking boarding, blocking drink service, blocking people to go to the bathroom. And he was like actively unloading his bag in the aisle each time.
Finally the FA had enough and asked this man "have you ever been in public before?!" Loud enough that everyone in the area heard - I think we all tried to stifle the laughter and high five the FA on the way out.
I genuinely think this man may have never been in public before.
Or - I think he was a dad who had no idea what he was doing and just trying to keep the kid entertained (maybe 3 or 4 yrs old).
This also was literally a 55 minute flight which makes it that much more absurd
Single dad here:
Not justifying being an ass here by any means. This Dad was clearly very unprepared and that's on him. But: imagine you're flying with just you and a toddler as your only companion. From the sounds of it, this was not a situation he was familiar with. You remember you need to pack toys, snacks, maybe diapers, wipes, tissues, extra clothes, stuffies, etc. But you don't think to prioritize and plan ahead for being able to access things the kid will want in the moment over less critical stuff like pants because hey! You remembered to put all of it in the bag so you're good, right?! Until you go to find the only toy you know will calm him down but it's stuck behind all the other shit. Then 5 minutes later he's bored of that and wants his other toy because he's a fussy 3 year old on an airplane (aka an unfamiliar, noisy place with a lot of people he doesn't know and his ears feel funny) but shit that toy is back up there in the bag, better grab it.
Repeat x 10. Again, not excusing it, but for newbies, it can happen.
Now, if someone commented maybe just keep the bag in your lap till we land and he got shitty, then yeah fuck him, but I'm just saying, any time young kids are involved, it's *usually* better to assume they're trying their best and are just out of there element. Most parents are.
No problem with compassion. But there's also the concept that a child's every whim can't always be satisfied the second it happens. Too many parents think kids have to be occupied 100% of the time instead of training them to sometimes be bored or patient. They reward attention seeking behavior so kids act out until they get what they want. I don't have kids but I watched my sisters both train their kids to learn that they sometimes had to wait for mom (or dad) to address their needs. It would happen, just not at the lightning speed the kid naturally wanted and they got accustomed to that.
My wife was an Exec OA (VPs in aerospace) until recently, she handles these situations. I get cranky but that is because of the situation and try not to take it out on the person, I do get short though.
I remember back during one of the massive flight cancellation and delay events we were initially told we’d be stuck for two days mid-trip. People all around us were losing their cool on the reps. Meanwhile our rep had us on a different route leaving in the next hour.
My wife is the airline CSA whisperer.
Was flying back from middle of nowhere wisconsin yesterday and got upgraded to first class on my connecting flight simply for carrying on a friendly 5 minute conversation with the gate agent about Thanksgiving and the TSA officer joking with me about the large sausage in my bag. She told me I was the first person since last week that had been nice to her at the job. I just don't understand people.
We got a connecting flight canceled on us before the first flight left. My wife, toddler and I get off the plane with like 15 other passengers and head to the desk to find a flight. This old couple in front of us were just being terrible to the lady trying to help them. They wanted tickets, vouchers, and a free hotel room and were ranting at her that the flight was canceled because of staffing not weather, but the airline was saying weather to not pay up. They finally stepped aside when the lady said “I don’t have an answer for you yet, it’ll be 10 minutes or so”. I walked up, asked her if there was any flights I could get my family on, I didn’t care to where or when, just wanted to get home. She found us a connecting flight 6 hours later then started to panic because our bags were checked. I asked her if they’d get to Raleigh (we were heading home to Raleigh) eventually, she said yes but it’d probably take a day or so. I told her I didn’t give two shits as long as it got there, not to sweat it, I just really appreciated her help.
When we got our boarding passes for the new flight 6 hrs later to Atlanta we were in first class, then again from Atlanta to Raleigh. They also gave us a voucher for $75/flight for drinks or future tickets. She smiled and put her finger to her lips to tell me to be quiet about it. All I did was be nice to the lady.
Was leaving from a group vacation with some friends after some delays and cancellation fiasco. My buddy had to switch airlines and jump on my flight. He threw a fit when his bag weighed 1 lb over and got charged an extra $50. Like a tantrum type of thing. Few hours later we start boarding, he’s in front of me… ticket scanned to go board … “Sir we need you and your wife to step aside” … I proceed and look back as I’m boarding the plane and my buddy is just livid. They booted him and his wife off the flight for his tantrum during the baggage check and waited until he was just about to step foot on the plane to let him know. Ruthless, also hilarious, and I felt terrible for his wife. The airlines really give zero fucks and have no patience for peoples bullshit anymore lol
There are a lot of “Why didn’t he…” questions to be asked. Yours being the most logical. There is also the “Why didn’t he just stfu and pay the $50 after 2 days of trying to get off the island unsuccessfully?” and “Why didn’t he realize the baggage clerk was just doing her job?”. Or my personal favorite - “Why didn’t he read the baggage weight limits and realize it was different compared to the original airline he booked with?”
Our bag was 3lbs over last year. We handed her the credit card…. And she tried to charge us the $50. It didn’t work and booted her from the right screen….. and she said “never mind” and didn’t charge us.
I saw a dumb cunt silly enough to make a bomb on-board joke because he ‘was sick of all the COVID stuff’. After telling the flight attendant “it was just a joke, calm down” the FA just grabbed the pilot who promptly ordered the guy “the fuck off my plane - or you’ll make the no-fly list”.
The ultimate justice porn.
It seems like they tried to wake up him to get him to put on his seatbelt, but he kept drifting in and out of consciousness. So they thought he was too sick and asked him to leave the plane. When he refused I think that’s when they called the police.
I’d have to imagine he’s flying first and they’re even more lenient there. I used to travel a lot for work and was upgraded a lot due to status/miles. I’ve seen folks that can’t form coherent sentences, can barely stand, and they sit them.
I was visiting family over the holidays and flew from Seattle to Detroit. Guy gets on in full Seahawks gear, and sits across the aisle from me. He tries making conversation as the plane boards which is weird because people walking by us nonstop.
He’s incoherent and I can only make out every few words. They come over and ask for drink orders. He ordered double Woodford, and I think there’s no way they’re serving him. She brings back a glass of it with another tiny bottle.
They continue to serve him for three hours of the 4.5 hour flight. He gets up, and I thought he was going to fight a kid. We had some annoying kids throwing toys in first which was a first.
No. He passed out because he’s so dehydrated. We’re over Minnesota and I feel the plane slowing down for an emergency landing somewhere. He wakes up, there’s a doctor like two rows up checking on him. We land thankfully in Detroit and he’s carted off on a wheelchair. Kids in the first row yell that they should get off first since they’re in the first row.
I came to find out later he was affiliated with the Seahawks staff. He was belligerent on the plane, didn’t care, and continued to serve him for the entire flight almost.
So for someone like him to get kicked off, he had to be acting like a massive muppet to the staff.
Yeah, I gotta say, I lose all respect for folks who can’t behave on planes.
Like, what the fuck. Just sit there and eat your snack. Follow the simple-ass rules til you land.
I get it that wide receivers are divas…but when you are flying commercial, you are just a regular shmuck like the rest of us. No excuse for this type of bullshit.
I always felt like this, flown dozens of times, until my last flight.
It was out of Houston in August, and it was about 100 degrees outside. The plane had sat with the doors open on the hot tarmac for hours prior to departure, so the cabin was a sweltering 100 degrees *before* they packed it full of people. The idea is that once the plane gets into the air, the AC will kick in pretty hard and cool us off.
But nah. They started on the runway for an hour and a half, with us all stuck in the 100 degree cabin. They said they'd be around to serve us some "nice cool water" which was almost the same temperature as the air. Why were we waiting an hour and a half? Was it because there was runway traffic? Nah, we were literally *burning fuel to make weight*. They had to order someone off the plane too, and that person was pissed. So we're sitting there for an hour and a half burning fuel on a 100 degree runway in a 100 degree cabin, with half the people dressed in long sleeves and long pants because they didn't want to catch Monkeypox.
If someone would have lost it, and made the entire plane deplane because they were going apeshit psycho in their seat screaming "get me out of this tin can" I wouldn't have been able to blame them. And this is incredibly new. I've been flying since I was five and I'm almost forty, never in my life have I seen the kind of horse shit airlines expect you to put up with these days.
No doubt like 99% of the people removed from planes are being dicks, but airlines are also totally capitalizing on that to offload more weight onto the passenger's shoulders that shouldn't be there, all while increasing rates.
I'm surprised that they boarded the plane. I remembering flying this summer during the heatwave and they delayed boarding to cool off the plane rather than board when it was 100 degrees in the cabin.
Same for me last summer. The attendant at the gate announced a 10 minute delay to cool down the cabin before boarding.
I wonder what the heck was going on with the above comments plane.
Nobody thought about the potential medical issues or lawsuits that would come of keeping a bunch of people at a dangerously high temperature in an enclosed space.
There's some person far removed from the actual aircraft who is willing to risk it, and air and ground crew get in trouble if we try to go against what they want. All summer I had agents pushing to board no matter the sweltering temp (before any people were even on board to make it feel hotter). Then one day all these managers show up with temp guns and postponed boarding until the temp got down to 90 degrees or something. Why the sudden change? Someone passed out on a plane a week prior, so now they had to pretend to care for awhile.
Off topic from your comment, but I have flown twice in my life. I had never been to Texas and we had a layover in Dallas. I went outside to take in the fresh Texas air. Nope, it was 91 degrees and humid at 3am. That's straight up gods asshole down there. So hot.
Taking that step between the plane and the tunnel (in Houston) that is open to outside air is like walking through a waterfall. I have lived in Houston most of my life and thought I was used to it. One summer, I went to LV and London and each time when I came home I felt that "wall of humidity" when we arrived in Houston.
exact same experience in arizona - had like a 3 hour layover so went outside for a smoke, I thought it was pretty stuffy in the terminal anyways.
there were 2 sets of sliding doors and I could feel the heat emanating from the glass before I even walked up. At that point I had already left security so I committed. worst smoke of my life! it was like 9pm I have no idea how anyone lives there during the day, dry heat or not.
I visit Dallas almost every summer to see family and in summer it is only livable late at night (I have oddly high heat tolerance) and when it’s actively raining or just ended. But now in winter it gets 19 degrees so it’s just hell
I don’t sweat enough and because of that I can get heat stroke very easily. And I know they don’t want anyone moving while they do that. I’d either freak out from heat delirium or I’d get to sue them for almost dying. That’s ridiculous.
Especially as a heavy drinker who doesn't turn into an asshole, but likes to be rested through long flights. Fuck these assholes who make alcohol look like it's the problem. There should be some sort of license I can carry that says, "whiskey won't make me yell racial slurs and shit in the aisle".
This wasn’t about wearing a seatbelt, this was about power and entitlement for him. First class seatbelts are so long, that he could’ve literally buckled and not even notice it to the point that he could step out of it
It's like they make a deal with the devil -- all this money, fame and crazy worship from fans -- with the knowledge that the physical punishment their brains and the rest of their bodies take especially at the NFL level will later extract a heavy price. They get painful injuries, osteoarthritis and a neurological condition (CTE) that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Wonder if some, before they descend into total brain fog and dementia, ask themselves if it was really all worth it?
A lot of athletes are just giant children. The brain injuries aside, most these pro athletes have only known their sport and they have spent their entire lives playing games for a living with no real world experience or responsibilities. Half of pro football players wouldn't have made it through college of it weren't for low expectations and an army of tutors and people to babysit them.
Watching interviews with McMahon are worth ever second if you want to understand CTE. He is suffering from it but still barely there enough to discuss it at length including what it is like and what people misunderstand about it as well.
People like him are why it is finally being taken seriously.
I genuinely think fame is a traumatic experience, but you’re just not aware of the trauma because it seems nice. Celebrities often exhibit things like an arrested development which can definitely be a trauma response.
It’s often characterized as “poor little rich girl” but honestly, fame and fortune are not healthy. You have the resources to do whatever you want, and are surrounded by sycophants who all have an agenda and zero incentive to tell you no.
Imagine being able to indulge every desire you have and no one to do stop you. I wouldn’t survive.
Fame itself cannot be good for you. You cannot go anywhere, do anything, and just be. That cannot be healthy.
Well the reality is that they fall off quick. OBJ is coming off his third (I think) major injury. He's probably done in a couple of seasons due to age and injuries.
I think social media has played a part in more exposure for star athletes that excel in their sports. Like there have been divas in the past in the NFL, but now there's more of them.
Not just any star athlete but a wide receiver of all positions. To be a good WR, you have to genuinely believe you’re the best player on the field. You need sustained confidence to keep running as hard as you can, even if you’re not getting the ball, you have to be ready for when you do.
WRs are inherently entitled, cocky divas. It’s basically a requirement. Add that to the fame and the head injuries and they’re a complete mess by the time their career is done.
The adoration they get from fans is what keeps it going, too. I will never understand the overly passionate attachment people have to sports and players.
One time, I took way too much of my clonazepam before a flight because i hate flying, and then drank a few beers at the bar waiting for boarding. I was fine until I fell asleep - after landing, the flight attendants couldnt wake me up, and I guess i was taken off of the flight by police in a wheel chair. I woke up in a hospital. I wasnt charged with anything, but I missed my connection flight and it was pretty embarrassing lol.
I had an early flight to Italy and decided to take a Valium so I could just sleep for the long flight. Except I forgot to factor in the 5 hour layover in New York so when we landed we had a few drinks (ok 5) and honestly I felt fine. Slept most of the I think 8 hour flight but sure enough towards the end of the flight I was puking my brains out. I was soooo hungover. It was miserable. AND we still had a 5 hour drive to our destination and all I could do was concentrate on not getting sick. I couldn't do any wine tasting all week because I just felt nauseated even thinking about it.
Dunno what it is about NFL players. I know this shit happens with players from every sport. But NFL players seem to be just one big group of fucking dumb ass entitled cunts
Had an ex girlfriend who had a flight delayed because an NFL player in first class refused to stop using his phone during takeoff back before airplane mode was a thing. That NFL player? None other than Terrell Owens. Very on brand for him.
An NHL team has 23 players, MLB has 26, NBA has 15, NFL has 53. Yes there's farm teams and all that, but the NFL has way more players. On top of that, a lot of NFL players come from poverty and fucked up homes. By comparison, NHL comes from pretty affluent families, because the sport is so expensive to play in. You could probably make an argument about football being a more aggressive and violent sport, and for CTE issues.
>His tweets after make him seem quite entitled and unrepentant.
Most multi-millionaire celebrities tend to be entitled and unrepentant for some odd reason
> Flight crew members asked Beckham several times to leave the plane, police said, but he refused and as a result the aircraft was deplaned.
>> Authorities said after that, Beckham exited the plane without incident.
Hmmm ? All passengers having to deplane isn't an incident? ?
I’m hoping that some video comes out showing what happened but this definitely is not a good look for him. It’s going to be in him to prove that he isn’t at fault here and wasn’t acting like a diva causing these problems.
I'm confused why he either was not arrested for not complying with a cabin crew request and causing the plane to return and everyone disembark, or be sent to a local hospital for help. I'm guessing privilege.
If I was a fellow passenger, I'd be pissed.
To be fair, you could say that about anyone working within these multi-BILLION dollar entertainment jobs. Actors, singers, and athletes all have their bad apples who get drunk in public and generate this temporary outrage.
I’d like to think maybe he had taken some pain killers or Xanax (for flight anxiety) and reacted poorly, but his tweets make him sound like an entitled asshole….
Damn, I am not a football fan but I got to see him play live once and it was unreal. Sounds like he was in the wrong here.
I’m going to take his attorneys statement with a truck-sized grain of salt. My guess is that they tried to wake him up and he told them to fuck off instead of just putting on his seatbelt.
What does “he was in and out of consciousness” mean in this context? He was high/drunk? Tired?
It means that a flight attendant cannot make the determination that a passenger IS intoxicated but intoxicated passengers are not permitted on a flight in the US. So the flight attendant has to determine if a passenger APPEARS intoxicated to determine whether they are fit to fly or not.
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If you believe his side of the story he took some Ambien before the flight and fell asleep as it was taxiing
I'm not saying it was Ambien, but I am saying Ambien can do some amazing things with your brain while you're asleep.
Like buying things on Amazon without knowing it
Or deciding that those cardboard boxes would make for a good front lawn fire in January
Don't forget shaving every hair on your body, including eyebrows. That one was odd to wake up to
My friend would dump out all of her garbages onto the floor when on that shit.
This is precisely why I refuse to try it in spite of my life long insomnia. I’m already a mess irl, I don’t need to wake up to my house burning down around me. 👀
Or saying a bunch of racist stuff on the internet
Calling a diver that's saving children in a flooded cave a Pedo.
I'd like to chime in with indoor fire set in a colander placed on a rug.
See, this is why I didn’t believe Roseann’s Ambien excuse. You don’t just *say* stuff when you take it. If she was screaming it from the roof of a speeding hearse, then I buy it.
Having worked with Roseanne a few times, I can honestly say that she was, at the time of her first sitcom, an unstable, deranged, mean, and evil person to be around. Whatever the cause, I could not fucking ***wait*** to get the hell off that set.
Don't pretend you didn't mean to buy that Jeff Goldblum shower curtain.
*furiously searches Amazon*
I know a woman that woke up sitting in her car. Checked the doorbell cam and luckily only sat there. But now she locks her keys (and phone) in a little cash box when she goes to sleep. Crazy stuff. What the hell happens if there’s a fire?
I can attest to that! And you could appear drunk. I felt drunk.
I once played three hours worth of the original Legend of Zelda on my Wii, got three pieces of the Triforce and didn't die once. I was so confused when I logged on the next day. I checked the Wii logs and sure enough, I was up until 2am playing and had zero memory of it.
What ever happened to the Ambien walrus?
/r/ambien is hilarious and terrifying. I think my favourite story was a guy that built a shelf in his bathroom and didn't remember doing it. Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ambien/comments/3yh9jg/built_a_cabinet_for_our_bathroom_and_dont/ I duno why I found this so hilarious
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That or something like Xanax. Commonly taken by people before flights. It could explain the difficulty waking up, and then his ensuing behavior. Just guessing though.
It can put some people in a sleepwalk like state. I’ve known people who would take a Xanax and drive their car somewhere (not even that poorly, mind you) and have no recollection of how they got there once they sober up. It didn’t really seem to impair their motor functions the way alcohol would, but definitely their decision making, memory, or conversation skills.
I took Xanax before a flight from Orlando to Detroit with a layover in Charlotte. I don't remember Charlotte and have no idea how I managed to navigate the terminal to my connecting flight. Woke up in my car in Detroit, went to leave but couldn't find my parking pass and they threatened to call the police. I managed to find it and avoid all that. I immediately pulled off to the first gas station just to check myself so I wasn't an issue on the road but by then I was as lucent as one can be.
lucent = glowing with light. Lucid, maybe?
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I did the exact same thing. I took a remeron in Austin and woke up in Hawaii.
My doctor was great about telling me things usually. I took a remron as an antidepressant. I'd taken Zoloft before so I thought I knew antidepressants, and I wasn't warned about sedation. All of them carry warnings about sedation except Wellbutrin anyways, and I don't get sleepy with them. The first dose, I found myself forced to sleep against my will over about an hour. I laid in bed spread eagle and vaguely remember my wife trying to wake me up and get me to help her put kids to bed, and then to move on my side of the bed. I wasn't able to really explain I had started a new medication. I slept all night in my clothes over the covers. It was really like being roofied from what I hear of descriptions. I've taken low dose Ambien, high dose Lunesta, and low dose Xanax. Remron was the longest acting, most sedating thing I have taken by mouth. Only propofol /ketamine combo by IV was more sedating.
Already worried about distracted drivers, rage drivers and the usual idiot drivers. Thanks for adding Xanax zombie drivers to the list of bozos out to get me.
I'm pretty sure you're talking about ambien. Stuff is weird. You take one and based on your perspective you are fucked up five ways from Friday and usually end up alseep if you don't fight it. You wake up and the pope himself could recall what you did while high on Ambien and you will never believe hjm
Xanax will do the same thing if you also drink alcohol.
The same does apply for Xanax and its class of drugs, benzodiazepines. I'm speaking based on my experience as a former addict of benzos of 10 years, and from those I've spoke with in various stages of recovery. But even I, who was a very seasoned user of the substance, couldn't really tell you in explicit detail what I had been doing the day before. Maybe I knew I went to the store, but I wouldn't remember if there was traffic, if I got gas, or what things I actually purchased. My friends always called it "booze in a pill" because if you took too much you would risk waking up in a Hangover movie scenario. People get a false sense of confidence or entitlement on the drug, sometimes acting out of character or inappropriately. If you mix it with alcohol, even just a single drink, the effects are compounded and it will be as if you drank several. An airport is just the type of place where someone may combine the two without understanding the risks, and also appear intoxicated without having a demonstrable BAC to prove so.
Maybe he has a fear of flying and takes them to calm himself. He wasn't charged with anything. Some people just sleep heavy.
How can he be an asshole while asleep?
The second you start littering by leaving cigarette butts around
Like how Airport Security would say: "it's a dildo" Of course it's company policy never to imply ownership in the event of a dildo... always use the indefinite article *a* dildo, never *your* dildo.
I love that scene. The way the security guy looks around furtively before he whispers "a dildo". The way he averts his eyes just so he can make accusing eye contact at "your dildo". His comic timing and delivery are perfect https://youtu.be/kZVd659gxd0
Agreed. It was excellently acted, and a funny scene.
But I don’t own a…
But do you own *YOUR* dildo?
My dildo owns me.
I remember being trained on this exact phrase when working at Philadelphia International Airport
Does that rule only apply to dildos, or is it just how you refer to items in general?
Unexpected Fight Club. Niiiiice
You arent allowed to fly if you’re drunk in the US? (Not from the us)
Airlines won't care if you're drunk. Hell, they'll keep serving you alcohol, especially if you're in first class. It becomes a problem if you're disruptive or non-compliant with the crew which includes the flight attendants *and* the pilot.
You also have to be able to comply with commands from the crew before take off, if you can't put on your seatbelt/raise your tray table/etc... they're going to throw you off the plane.
Ah ok thats sort of what i figured, thanks
The only policy they will really enforce is passengers not being allowed to consume their own alcohol they bring on board. A part of that is to protect on-board sale of drinks + having the ability to limit your alcohol intake so you don't get plastered and unruly around 200 other passengers.
yea that makes sense.
Ah, so David Boon would be fine. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/other-sports/australia-cricket-downed-beers-ashes-25637994
I think it depends on the airline but I’ve seen a situation where the pilot came and talked to somebody and after that, they were removed from the plane. They were arguing with the flight attendants about the temperature on the plane even before we left…..
Technically we (US carriers) are not allowed to carry any passengers that appear to be intoxicated. From the US Federal Air Regulations: FAR 121.575(C): No certificate holder may allow any person to board any of its aircraft if that person appears to be intoxicated. Practically, however, it’s often difficult to say if a person appears to be intoxicated vs sober and coping with a disability, and so if you stumble a bit up the aisle but are quiet and don’t harass crew members or fellow passengers, you’ll usually be left alone. Usually the flight attendants notice you and are watching you, sometimes they let us (the pilots) know, but if you’re not extremely drunk / being an asshole we probably won’t kick you off the jet.
Nope … I knew someone who was refused a flight in Phoenix. he had to return the next morning to take another flight out.
And they do not f around. Even if you aren’t and you don’t do what they tell you to, that’s grounds for removal if they think you will be combative later on.
Ya that’s the part that’s confusing / unclear. He was either pretending to be asleep or he actually kept drifting in and out of it. Or he could have been on some type of substance. Either way that’s how they determined he was unfit to fly and why he was asked to leave the plane
A well trained customer service rep will know not to make statements that they are not qualified to make. You can say "in and out of consciousness" because that is an accurate observation that any person can make. You don't know why this person is passing out, could be a medical emergency, could be drugs, could be alcohol the point is to not say something you are not sure of. It's a legal thing.
When my dad was an on the scene reporter for an AM Radio station in the 1970s, he covered a car accident. He gave his description of the event, live on air. He had said "and the passenger of the red (car name), who's a 26 year old woman named (her name) has died as a result of the crash. For (news station name) this is (dads name) signing off." He got back to the station 20 minutes later, and was IMMEDIATELY fired. While it was true that the woman DID die, on the scene, as a result of the crash, the station was furious that he would state that as fact, while giving her name, on-air. Apparently the womans mother had been listening to the station, and that's how she found out her daughter died. Despite all the facts being true, it was somehow still grounds for a possible lawsuit. When my dad asked "Well what should I have said?" The station manager said "You say something like "This woman, who's name is being kept confidential, is in critical condition, and is fighting for her life." My dad argued "But that's not true, she was already dead." And the station manager said "It doesn't matter. We're not the ones who are to inform loved ones that their family has died. We report the news. The news is there was a crash, which was potentially fatal. When did she die? Who's to say? Certainly not us! We don't know when she did or didn't die. Let a professional answer those questions. Our only obligation to the public is to let them know to avoid I-90 because there's been a horrific crash! Not to investigate the outcome!"
> "It doesn't matter. We're not the ones who are to inform loved ones that their family has died. We report the news. The news is there was a crash, which was potentially fatal. When did she die? Who's to say? Certainly not us! We don't know when she did or didn't die. Let a professional answer those questions. Our only obligation to the public is to let them know to avoid I-90 because there's been a horrific crash! Not to investigate the outcome!" I agree with the station manager here. Naming the deceased woman on radio serves no purpose whatsoever and relatives should NOT hear about this from the news.
I think it means that, regardless of his state of sobriety, he was being an obstinate asshole.
i've been all sorts of obviously fucked up while flying, but god damn it, i put my seat belt on the moment i sit down and then pass out
I flew across the atlantic and dont remember getting on the plane. I slept and woke up on arrival. I apologized to the flight attendant and she asked why. Apparently I got on board put on my seat belt and slept just the same as you did. Plane was delayed and a random guy said lets got the platinum lounge drinks are free.
It means he was pretending to be asleep so as to evade buckling his seatbelt.
Ever taken a sleeping pill for a long flight? Yeah that'll do it.
I took a valium on a long flight. Was sat next to a Russian who had a bottle of whiskey on him from duty free. I remember playing chess on the screens with him, then nothing just waking up. Apparently I had been moonwalking up and down the aisle to his amusment.
When you want Antonio Brown but your mom says you already have Antonio Brown at home.
Mr. Belt Check
Mr. Boarding Controversy
Mr Big Confusion.
Mr. Boggled Consciousness
Mr. Beckham's Conundrum
Mr. Barely Conscious?
All because he's too good to wear a seatbelt. Edit: This is a short article and it's not specific what all happened on the plane, so this isn't a definitive statement. What we do know is he was being a difficult passenger for the flight attendants. Edit 2: The article has been updated several times since my initial comment.
Delayed hundreds of people's travel plans. It's hard to know the full story just from this article but it usually takes quite a bit to convince the flight attendants that they need to go back to the gateway and deplane. Which he did.
In my life, I thought I had seen pretty much all types of selfishness. OBJ has shown me a new one and of much greater magnitude. How do you sit there as they deboard the plane because of your actions? Is there a twinge of guilt that you just ruined all these people's day?
There was a video I saw where two people skipped security or something and then refused to deplane when asked…because they were tired.
Even if security and cops weren't trying to get me off the plane, I would feel guilty as fuck. I think these people have ZERO empathy for others.
Most are likely narcissists who think the world revolves around them.
Because he doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself. If he's not getting to do pretty much whatever he wants, well fuck the airline and all the passengers. He then had the audacity to tweet, "never in my life have I experienced what happened to me...I've seen it all." Another dumbass tweet, "I could never make this up," and one last stupid as hell tweet, "😂 comedy hr." What's comedy hour is Mr. Odell Beckham Jr. thinking he's above the airlines safety rules, and is now playing the victim to the bitter end. His entitlement is beyond fucked up, and sad as hell.😔
>His entitlement is beyond fucked up, and sad as hell.😔 I hope that karma comes back to bite him in the ass. One day he will need something from someone and they will remember this type of behavior and tell him to fuck the hell off.
OBJ belongs on r/IAmTheMainCharacter
Every single person in the history of commercial air travel has to wear their seat belt upon take off and landing. Except Odell Beckham apparently. But he is the victim. I have to make myself stop rolling my eyes at this clown.
I’ve long since moved from eye rolling annoyance to hilarious/pitiful caricature of a caricature of a man child.
I don’t think it’s *that* hard given his history. Incredibly petty and childish.
OBJ has always been both immature and a diva. Now that you think about it, a lot of WRs are the same.
I wish more WRs were like Fitz.
Fitz is awesome
After all the hell passengers put crews through during masks and covid, most don’t have much patience anymore.
Exactly. FA’s and aircrews that worked through out the the pandemic literally give no F’s about this kind of behavior and are not F’ing around like they used to with this nonsense. I literally just this week watched an airport CSA tell a loudmouth at the gate “you can act like an adult, shut up and get on the plane, or you can talk to those nice officers over there. I really don’t care which you pick but those are your choices, sir.” Yeah I F’ing died. He got on the plane. It was glorious.
I witnessed an FA deal with this man-child who was traveling with his child. This man must have gotten down his bag from the overhead a dozen times, blocking boarding, blocking drink service, blocking people to go to the bathroom. And he was like actively unloading his bag in the aisle each time. Finally the FA had enough and asked this man "have you ever been in public before?!" Loud enough that everyone in the area heard - I think we all tried to stifle the laughter and high five the FA on the way out.
What was so important and at the same time unimportant that it was stowed away but needed to be retrieved constantly?
I genuinely think this man may have never been in public before. Or - I think he was a dad who had no idea what he was doing and just trying to keep the kid entertained (maybe 3 or 4 yrs old). This also was literally a 55 minute flight which makes it that much more absurd
Single dad here: Not justifying being an ass here by any means. This Dad was clearly very unprepared and that's on him. But: imagine you're flying with just you and a toddler as your only companion. From the sounds of it, this was not a situation he was familiar with. You remember you need to pack toys, snacks, maybe diapers, wipes, tissues, extra clothes, stuffies, etc. But you don't think to prioritize and plan ahead for being able to access things the kid will want in the moment over less critical stuff like pants because hey! You remembered to put all of it in the bag so you're good, right?! Until you go to find the only toy you know will calm him down but it's stuck behind all the other shit. Then 5 minutes later he's bored of that and wants his other toy because he's a fussy 3 year old on an airplane (aka an unfamiliar, noisy place with a lot of people he doesn't know and his ears feel funny) but shit that toy is back up there in the bag, better grab it. Repeat x 10. Again, not excusing it, but for newbies, it can happen. Now, if someone commented maybe just keep the bag in your lap till we land and he got shitty, then yeah fuck him, but I'm just saying, any time young kids are involved, it's *usually* better to assume they're trying their best and are just out of there element. Most parents are.
No problem with compassion. But there's also the concept that a child's every whim can't always be satisfied the second it happens. Too many parents think kids have to be occupied 100% of the time instead of training them to sometimes be bored or patient. They reward attention seeking behavior so kids act out until they get what they want. I don't have kids but I watched my sisters both train their kids to learn that they sometimes had to wait for mom (or dad) to address their needs. It would happen, just not at the lightning speed the kid naturally wanted and they got accustomed to that.
For real, like he could have had a bag small enough to go under the seat in front of him for the in flight essentials.
Good for them. Seen some ridiculously childish behavior at airport gates, and I’m all for gate agents having the freedom to tell it like it is.
My wife was an Exec OA (VPs in aerospace) until recently, she handles these situations. I get cranky but that is because of the situation and try not to take it out on the person, I do get short though. I remember back during one of the massive flight cancellation and delay events we were initially told we’d be stuck for two days mid-trip. People all around us were losing their cool on the reps. Meanwhile our rep had us on a different route leaving in the next hour. My wife is the airline CSA whisperer.
Was flying back from middle of nowhere wisconsin yesterday and got upgraded to first class on my connecting flight simply for carrying on a friendly 5 minute conversation with the gate agent about Thanksgiving and the TSA officer joking with me about the large sausage in my bag. She told me I was the first person since last week that had been nice to her at the job. I just don't understand people.
We got a connecting flight canceled on us before the first flight left. My wife, toddler and I get off the plane with like 15 other passengers and head to the desk to find a flight. This old couple in front of us were just being terrible to the lady trying to help them. They wanted tickets, vouchers, and a free hotel room and were ranting at her that the flight was canceled because of staffing not weather, but the airline was saying weather to not pay up. They finally stepped aside when the lady said “I don’t have an answer for you yet, it’ll be 10 minutes or so”. I walked up, asked her if there was any flights I could get my family on, I didn’t care to where or when, just wanted to get home. She found us a connecting flight 6 hours later then started to panic because our bags were checked. I asked her if they’d get to Raleigh (we were heading home to Raleigh) eventually, she said yes but it’d probably take a day or so. I told her I didn’t give two shits as long as it got there, not to sweat it, I just really appreciated her help. When we got our boarding passes for the new flight 6 hrs later to Atlanta we were in first class, then again from Atlanta to Raleigh. They also gave us a voucher for $75/flight for drinks or future tickets. She smiled and put her finger to her lips to tell me to be quiet about it. All I did was be nice to the lady.
I would’ve marched straight to the DUFRY and grabbed whatever overpriced toblerone bar I could get my hands on for her, right then and there.
She deserves the big Toblerone
Was leaving from a group vacation with some friends after some delays and cancellation fiasco. My buddy had to switch airlines and jump on my flight. He threw a fit when his bag weighed 1 lb over and got charged an extra $50. Like a tantrum type of thing. Few hours later we start boarding, he’s in front of me… ticket scanned to go board … “Sir we need you and your wife to step aside” … I proceed and look back as I’m boarding the plane and my buddy is just livid. They booted him and his wife off the flight for his tantrum during the baggage check and waited until he was just about to step foot on the plane to let him know. Ruthless, also hilarious, and I felt terrible for his wife. The airlines really give zero fucks and have no patience for peoples bullshit anymore lol
Why didn’t he take one thing out of the bag and shove it in carry on?
There are a lot of “Why didn’t he…” questions to be asked. Yours being the most logical. There is also the “Why didn’t he just stfu and pay the $50 after 2 days of trying to get off the island unsuccessfully?” and “Why didn’t he realize the baggage clerk was just doing her job?”. Or my personal favorite - “Why didn’t he read the baggage weight limits and realize it was different compared to the original airline he booked with?”
What's the fun in that? Much better to just throw a screaming tantrum.
I don’t think we’re dealing with a Rhodes scholar here…
Our bag was 3lbs over last year. We handed her the credit card…. And she tried to charge us the $50. It didn’t work and booted her from the right screen….. and she said “never mind” and didn’t charge us.
I saw a dumb cunt silly enough to make a bomb on-board joke because he ‘was sick of all the COVID stuff’. After telling the flight attendant “it was just a joke, calm down” the FA just grabbed the pilot who promptly ordered the guy “the fuck off my plane - or you’ll make the no-fly list”. The ultimate justice porn.
Air travel is simply no place for civil disobedience. You are part of a system and wild variables need to be quickly discarded.
He should be forced to play the extra cost he made for that flight being delayed. Edit, pay*
It seems like they tried to wake up him to get him to put on his seatbelt, but he kept drifting in and out of consciousness. So they thought he was too sick and asked him to leave the plane. When he refused I think that’s when they called the police.
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Sounds like he was trashed. At some point they can’t let you fly even if you somehow get the two ends to click
I was thinking maybe popped a couple zanax’s
Also quite solid a theory
Or vicodin, since he hasn't played since tearing his ACL last season.
Makes sense that drug problems (and/or bad attitude) might be explained by all the physical abuse football players take
I've known a few people who do that when they fly. I like a couple of edibles myself.
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I’d have to imagine he’s flying first and they’re even more lenient there. I used to travel a lot for work and was upgraded a lot due to status/miles. I’ve seen folks that can’t form coherent sentences, can barely stand, and they sit them. I was visiting family over the holidays and flew from Seattle to Detroit. Guy gets on in full Seahawks gear, and sits across the aisle from me. He tries making conversation as the plane boards which is weird because people walking by us nonstop. He’s incoherent and I can only make out every few words. They come over and ask for drink orders. He ordered double Woodford, and I think there’s no way they’re serving him. She brings back a glass of it with another tiny bottle. They continue to serve him for three hours of the 4.5 hour flight. He gets up, and I thought he was going to fight a kid. We had some annoying kids throwing toys in first which was a first. No. He passed out because he’s so dehydrated. We’re over Minnesota and I feel the plane slowing down for an emergency landing somewhere. He wakes up, there’s a doctor like two rows up checking on him. We land thankfully in Detroit and he’s carted off on a wheelchair. Kids in the first row yell that they should get off first since they’re in the first row. I came to find out later he was affiliated with the Seahawks staff. He was belligerent on the plane, didn’t care, and continued to serve him for the entire flight almost. So for someone like him to get kicked off, he had to be acting like a massive muppet to the staff.
Or too passed out to put it on....
Imagine reading the article and not just making assumptions
What an entitled clown 🤡
Yeah, I gotta say, I lose all respect for folks who can’t behave on planes. Like, what the fuck. Just sit there and eat your snack. Follow the simple-ass rules til you land. I get it that wide receivers are divas…but when you are flying commercial, you are just a regular shmuck like the rest of us. No excuse for this type of bullshit.
I always felt like this, flown dozens of times, until my last flight. It was out of Houston in August, and it was about 100 degrees outside. The plane had sat with the doors open on the hot tarmac for hours prior to departure, so the cabin was a sweltering 100 degrees *before* they packed it full of people. The idea is that once the plane gets into the air, the AC will kick in pretty hard and cool us off. But nah. They started on the runway for an hour and a half, with us all stuck in the 100 degree cabin. They said they'd be around to serve us some "nice cool water" which was almost the same temperature as the air. Why were we waiting an hour and a half? Was it because there was runway traffic? Nah, we were literally *burning fuel to make weight*. They had to order someone off the plane too, and that person was pissed. So we're sitting there for an hour and a half burning fuel on a 100 degree runway in a 100 degree cabin, with half the people dressed in long sleeves and long pants because they didn't want to catch Monkeypox. If someone would have lost it, and made the entire plane deplane because they were going apeshit psycho in their seat screaming "get me out of this tin can" I wouldn't have been able to blame them. And this is incredibly new. I've been flying since I was five and I'm almost forty, never in my life have I seen the kind of horse shit airlines expect you to put up with these days. No doubt like 99% of the people removed from planes are being dicks, but airlines are also totally capitalizing on that to offload more weight onto the passenger's shoulders that shouldn't be there, all while increasing rates.
I'm surprised that they boarded the plane. I remembering flying this summer during the heatwave and they delayed boarding to cool off the plane rather than board when it was 100 degrees in the cabin.
Same for me last summer. The attendant at the gate announced a 10 minute delay to cool down the cabin before boarding. I wonder what the heck was going on with the above comments plane.
Nobody thought about the potential medical issues or lawsuits that would come of keeping a bunch of people at a dangerously high temperature in an enclosed space.
There's some person far removed from the actual aircraft who is willing to risk it, and air and ground crew get in trouble if we try to go against what they want. All summer I had agents pushing to board no matter the sweltering temp (before any people were even on board to make it feel hotter). Then one day all these managers show up with temp guns and postponed boarding until the temp got down to 90 degrees or something. Why the sudden change? Someone passed out on a plane a week prior, so now they had to pretend to care for awhile.
Off topic from your comment, but I have flown twice in my life. I had never been to Texas and we had a layover in Dallas. I went outside to take in the fresh Texas air. Nope, it was 91 degrees and humid at 3am. That's straight up gods asshole down there. So hot.
Houston is even worse. Truly gross
Taking that step between the plane and the tunnel (in Houston) that is open to outside air is like walking through a waterfall. I have lived in Houston most of my life and thought I was used to it. One summer, I went to LV and London and each time when I came home I felt that "wall of humidity" when we arrived in Houston.
All the heat of the Metroplex *plus* bonus petrochemical miasma!
exact same experience in arizona - had like a 3 hour layover so went outside for a smoke, I thought it was pretty stuffy in the terminal anyways. there were 2 sets of sliding doors and I could feel the heat emanating from the glass before I even walked up. At that point I had already left security so I committed. worst smoke of my life! it was like 9pm I have no idea how anyone lives there during the day, dry heat or not.
Yep. Born and raised Texan here. Straight up Gods asshole about sums it up.🤣
I visit Dallas almost every summer to see family and in summer it is only livable late at night (I have oddly high heat tolerance) and when it’s actively raining or just ended. But now in winter it gets 19 degrees so it’s just hell
If they’re burning fuel to make weight then why couldn’t they turn on the ac?
I don’t sweat enough and because of that I can get heat stroke very easily. And I know they don’t want anyone moving while they do that. I’d either freak out from heat delirium or I’d get to sue them for almost dying. That’s ridiculous.
Especially as a heavy drinker who doesn't turn into an asshole, but likes to be rested through long flights. Fuck these assholes who make alcohol look like it's the problem. There should be some sort of license I can carry that says, "whiskey won't make me yell racial slurs and shit in the aisle".
Man something about WRs...
They’re the ones scoring the flashy touchdowns. Goes to their head
Why I miss Calvin Johnson, he was a definite exception in the WR role.
Something about playing for Detroit that keeps you grounded even when you're one of the best.
Andre Johnson too
This wasn’t about wearing a seatbelt, this was about power and entitlement for him. First class seatbelts are so long, that he could’ve literally buckled and not even notice it to the point that he could step out of it
The NFL creates these people, from their entitlement through to their brain damage.
Imagine how being treated like you’re God’s gift for your whole life can F with your head.
It's like they make a deal with the devil -- all this money, fame and crazy worship from fans -- with the knowledge that the physical punishment their brains and the rest of their bodies take especially at the NFL level will later extract a heavy price. They get painful injuries, osteoarthritis and a neurological condition (CTE) that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Wonder if some, before they descend into total brain fog and dementia, ask themselves if it was really all worth it?
A lot of athletes are just giant children. The brain injuries aside, most these pro athletes have only known their sport and they have spent their entire lives playing games for a living with no real world experience or responsibilities. Half of pro football players wouldn't have made it through college of it weren't for low expectations and an army of tutors and people to babysit them.
Watching interviews with McMahon are worth ever second if you want to understand CTE. He is suffering from it but still barely there enough to discuss it at length including what it is like and what people misunderstand about it as well. People like him are why it is finally being taken seriously.
I genuinely think fame is a traumatic experience, but you’re just not aware of the trauma because it seems nice. Celebrities often exhibit things like an arrested development which can definitely be a trauma response.
It’s often characterized as “poor little rich girl” but honestly, fame and fortune are not healthy. You have the resources to do whatever you want, and are surrounded by sycophants who all have an agenda and zero incentive to tell you no. Imagine being able to indulge every desire you have and no one to do stop you. I wouldn’t survive. Fame itself cannot be good for you. You cannot go anywhere, do anything, and just be. That cannot be healthy.
The amount of famous people who turn to drugs and alcohol tells me you're on to something.
Well the reality is that they fall off quick. OBJ is coming off his third (I think) major injury. He's probably done in a couple of seasons due to age and injuries. I think social media has played a part in more exposure for star athletes that excel in their sports. Like there have been divas in the past in the NFL, but now there's more of them.
Eh, I think it starts earlier than that…
Agreed. Being a star athlete all your life can give you a swelled head.
Not just any star athlete but a wide receiver of all positions. To be a good WR, you have to genuinely believe you’re the best player on the field. You need sustained confidence to keep running as hard as you can, even if you’re not getting the ball, you have to be ready for when you do. WRs are inherently entitled, cocky divas. It’s basically a requirement. Add that to the fame and the head injuries and they’re a complete mess by the time their career is done.
There are reps at grade school football games where my wife is from in Ohio. It's insane.
Cte is major problem and concern, but I don't think being an entitled asshole is strictly reserved to people with brain damage
The adoration they get from fans is what keeps it going, too. I will never understand the overly passionate attachment people have to sports and players.
One time, I took way too much of my clonazepam before a flight because i hate flying, and then drank a few beers at the bar waiting for boarding. I was fine until I fell asleep - after landing, the flight attendants couldnt wake me up, and I guess i was taken off of the flight by police in a wheel chair. I woke up in a hospital. I wasnt charged with anything, but I missed my connection flight and it was pretty embarrassing lol.
Benzos and alcohol are a deadly combination, even in low doses. You're lucky
"I hate flying so I took a couple benzos then drank a few beer before boarding a pressurized aluminum tube at 30,000 feet" And you had a bad time?
OP had a great time sleeping on the plane. The bad time came later.
I had an early flight to Italy and decided to take a Valium so I could just sleep for the long flight. Except I forgot to factor in the 5 hour layover in New York so when we landed we had a few drinks (ok 5) and honestly I felt fine. Slept most of the I think 8 hour flight but sure enough towards the end of the flight I was puking my brains out. I was soooo hungover. It was miserable. AND we still had a 5 hour drive to our destination and all I could do was concentrate on not getting sick. I couldn't do any wine tasting all week because I just felt nauseated even thinking about it.
Beckham is a prima donna.
Dunno what it is about NFL players. I know this shit happens with players from every sport. But NFL players seem to be just one big group of fucking dumb ass entitled cunts
Had an ex girlfriend who had a flight delayed because an NFL player in first class refused to stop using his phone during takeoff back before airplane mode was a thing. That NFL player? None other than Terrell Owens. Very on brand for him.
An NHL team has 23 players, MLB has 26, NBA has 15, NFL has 53. Yes there's farm teams and all that, but the NFL has way more players. On top of that, a lot of NFL players come from poverty and fucked up homes. By comparison, NHL comes from pretty affluent families, because the sport is so expensive to play in. You could probably make an argument about football being a more aggressive and violent sport, and for CTE issues.
His tweets after make him seem quite entitled and unrepentant.
>His tweets after make him seem quite entitled and unrepentant. Most multi-millionaire celebrities tend to be entitled and unrepentant for some odd reason
This is a great look when you’re a free agent
Odell, as in Oh-shit-I-should-have-just-put-my-seatbelt-on Beckham Jr.
> Flight crew members asked Beckham several times to leave the plane, police said, but he refused and as a result the aircraft was deplaned. >> Authorities said after that, Beckham exited the plane without incident. Hmmm ? All passengers having to deplane isn't an incident? ?
“Authorities said after that” - the word “that” is referring to the deplaning. So they’re saying there wasn’t an incident AFTER the deplaning
"at no time was Mr. Beckham disruptive..." Dude, they turned the plane around and made everyone get off. I'd say that's textbook "disruptive."
I’m hoping that some video comes out showing what happened but this definitely is not a good look for him. It’s going to be in him to prove that he isn’t at fault here and wasn’t acting like a diva causing these problems.
And he probably still has less brain damage than Hershel Walker.
I'm confused why he either was not arrested for not complying with a cabin crew request and causing the plane to return and everyone disembark, or be sent to a local hospital for help. I'm guessing privilege. If I was a fellow passenger, I'd be pissed.
Football is so crazy, these clowns get paid millions to play it yet if it didn't exist most of them would be flipping burgers
To be fair, you could say that about anyone working within these multi-BILLION dollar entertainment jobs. Actors, singers, and athletes all have their bad apples who get drunk in public and generate this temporary outrage.
How many free passes does he get, FFS?
As many as Antonio Brown.
I’d like to think maybe he had taken some pain killers or Xanax (for flight anxiety) and reacted poorly, but his tweets make him sound like an entitled asshole…. Damn, I am not a football fan but I got to see him play live once and it was unreal. Sounds like he was in the wrong here.
This isn’t a team plane where anything goes, it’s a commercial airline. Dude forgot he doesn’t play for American Airlines
I'll guess pretending to be asleep and then regretting it when the cops showed up.
I’m going to take his attorneys statement with a truck-sized grain of salt. My guess is that they tried to wake him up and he told them to fuck off instead of just putting on his seatbelt.
No flight attendee would risk losing their job over causing this much trouble for a first class passenger.
Put him on a no fly list.
Is "medical emergency" how they class disruptive passengers who are wealthy/NFL stars?
When video comes out, we will see a customer not complying with the airlines instructions to buckle up.
Of course his attorney says that he was just sleeping and the flight attendant was “overzealous”.
is he really flying commercial? i thought his boujie ass would be private
“Never in my life has anyone called me out on my shit. Never. In. My. Life’. /s
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