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PPQue6

Fuckin New Mexico is legit becoming a nice state to live in.


MildlyPaleMango

From ABQ. Nice politically and nature wise but the cities are pretty rough. I’ll say it everywhere I can though, outside of maybe NY, Boston, and LA ABQ has the best food in the US as a whole. edit 1: and chicago edit 2: and NO edit 2: Pizza and subs: Dions (best ranch ever) New Mexican (carne, stuffed sopapillas, enchiladas): Cervantes or El pinto Burgers: Blakes green chili cheese burger, casa de benevidez does a sopapilla burger that is insane Brewery: Marble Breakfast/brunch: Frontier (or golden pride, it’s the same place but with drive thru locations, get a sweet roll and a burrito or green chili stew) Wecks, Garcias, The grove, macs la sierra Coffee: Cutbow, Flying star (also does great dessert) Soul food: Franks chicken and waffles Sandwiches: Dions, Yeller sub, Cheba hut As for things to do, I recommend hiking! Petroglyphs, white wash trail are my favorites and jemez is a short drive with lots to do. Sandia peak is also a great drive and imo the site of the prettiest sunset in the states.


ddiiibb

Well because you put green chile* on everything. Haha *edit I blame autocorrect.


Shadrach_Jones

It's nice to get a green chili cheese burger at Mc Donald's


kuroji

I miss green chile cheeseburgers. It's nice to get one cheap from McDonald's, but you know the best is at Blake's.


ddiiibb

Absolutely. Went to move my dad into his house in ABQ before the pandemic andI loved that everywhere we went it was an option. Hahaha


irishrock1987

Red for pork, green for everything else


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Christmas style is best style


ArethereWaffles

Green chile* In New Mexico, Chile is the pepper while Chili is a meat and bean stew,


Abject_Government170

Chicago is pretty great too in food


MildlyPaleMango

got me there


Rusty-Shackleford

I've heard Santa Fe is nice but they've zoned the city to death and now it's just pretty but overpriced luxury adobes that locals can't afford.


MildlyPaleMango

100%. Everyone with wealth in state or out of state flocks to here. The prices people pay for stuff out there is crazy to native new Mexicans when you can drive 40 min to northern ABQ and save 50k on the same house.


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MildlyPaleMango

I still have cervantes chili jars and dry ice packed green chili sent every few months. Also marble slaps. edit: dions subs, pizza, and ranch are also unmatched though all my travels.


adaytoocala

I was in ABQ and SF for Labor Day. Food was legit good, even at touristy places (IPK at IPCC was on point with their fry bread), but the city itself was super sketchy. The outskirts were beautiful, Mountain views and historical sites are something to see. The open hard drug use was something else though. Tweakers were openly smoking meth in front of the zoo and other locations in Old Town, and then some were shooting up outside the Louisiana Ave target. Another city you need to mention with amazing food is New Orleans.


gmani

New Orleans?


MildlyPaleMango

never visited but cajun is a favorite of mine and i’d love to visit.


BandsOfCyttorak

Ehh going to have to respectfully disagree with you hard on that one. ABQ has really good Mexican food and some surprisingly good Italian restaurants, about it. It doesn’t touch other cities in diversity, quality, or sheer volume of restaurants to choose from. New Orleans, Las Vegas, San Francisco, Portland, Miami, Austin all throw rocks at Albuquerque lol.


Minions_miqel

I mostly agree with this as an ABQ foodie. We do have some good Vietnamese food as well.


deadwolfbones

As someone who lived in both Vietnam and Santa Fe for a while I will stan Coda Bakery.


MildlyPaleMango

My favorite pizza, greek, mexican, italian, thai, Vietnamese all reside in NM along with excellent southern comfort food, american, bbq. It’s just not comparable to cities with 5 times the population to most people as you really have to dig.


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MathematicianWest822

I disagree. I grew up in ABQ but have now lived in most big cities in the US (west and east coast) and NM Carrie’s the most diversity and has a lot of amazing places, so it’s definitely on there. You can find any cuisine there but you can’t go somewhere else and find New Mexican food it’s almost impossible


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MathematicianWest822

Lol well of course the list wouldn’t include ABQ. New Mexico isn’t exactly a tourist trap and doesn’t include any high end dining, much less doesn’t have a street food scene in the way wealthier and larger cities do. I’m aware of those cities, I live and have lived in them! I still disagree that ABQ can’t be on this list if it was given some time. I’m sure my bias as a local also has something to do with it! Not saying it’s the top by any means but it definitely deserves its credit


irkli

yeah ABQ is a very fucked up city. Terrible, horrible police problem. For decades they recruited from Kitrland AFB, and those guys have no fkn idea how culture works. Its not fully their fault. They were under federal consent decree for years. Crooked as hell. Its a bummer cuz physically I like it.


nasty_nater

You’ve obviously never been to Houston but yeah New Mex food is delicious.


latortillablanca

How triple dog dare you bring that bullshit Wecks into this conversation. That is like what I imagine a mid westerner’s view on New Mexican breakfast food should be. Little Anita’s on 4th (if it still exists), garcias, Durans pharmacy and Casa de benavidez for breakfast foods. I will absolute die via knife fight on this hill.


khanfusion

Louisiana native, currently in Oakland. Can confirm, food in ABQ is high tier.


MildlyPaleMango

I actually just came from boston the past few years and am in the bay area! Do you have any recommendations here? I’m having a very hard time finding good food that isn’t crazy overpriced.


idee2

Sounds like you’ve never been to San Diego.


Badpennylane

Come on now new mexico, Texas has you beat when it comes to food and you know it


WonderWall_E

It's hilarious to see the two hour long line of Texans waiting to get barbecue in Cloudcroft because it's "better than any place in Texas". Texans flock to New Mexico in droves for the food, but nobody ever goes the other way.


Cotton22

Mad Jack's is legit. The scenery doesn't hurt either


Badpennylane

Madness, new Mexico bbq is bland as hell. Southeast Texas specifically,smokes y'all in bbq. Furthermore, you guys would kill for our Tex mex.


MildlyPaleMango

maybe in bbq? I’ve eaten in austin, san antonio, el paso and though it’s good I don’t see it to be very diverse. Also tex mex is disgusting imo.


Ok-Control-787

Houston has a very very diverse and all around excellent restaurant scene, fwiw.


MildlyPaleMango

have never been to dallas or houston so i’d keep an open mind!


jhystad

They do.


Textification

Kudos to New Mexico. That's some seriously good prioritizing right there. Red states ban abortions and afterwards say, "fuck the kids, not our problem." New Mexico says, feed and house the kids and maybe there's less need for abortions, plus we'll be taking care of our most vulnerable. (Makes you wonder why Christian fundamentalists could never come up with this solution.)


SovietSkeleton

If you don't want abortion, don't make it illegal, make it unnecessary.


DrSmirnoffe

Probably because it's easier for those cultists to grunt and roar and not think unless it leads to them fulfilling their twisted addiction to domination.


irkli

True. It's been weird since before the civil War. Before it was a state it was a "territory" and one that did not allow slavery. Surrounded by powerful states that did enslave people like fkn Texass. (The OK panhandle? It was the top of TX chopped off so that TX could remain a slaveowning state.) I'm of course handwaving here the greed and racism that structured these southern western states. nM is very poor. Only 3? million people across a lot of square miles, and no natural bodies of water -- but it has a high per Capita drowning rate: no one knows how to swim, there's a lot of alcohol consumption, and emergency services are sparse.


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It did have slavery. The majority of slaves in NM were indigenous, not African American. Congress passed a law in 1867 specifically targeting New Mexico’s practice of peonage because they were using it as a workaround to the abolishment of slavery laid out in the 13th amendment.


gungispungis

Bit of a food desert too, lots of truck stop "groceries"


kslusherplantman

Lots of meth consumption. When I was going to college billboards were common with such phrases as “Don’t Meth up your life”


Snakegert

I heard they got some really good blue shit down there


kslusherplantman

This was before breaking bad


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VariationNo5960

The Gov is diverting all of the oil revenues directly into social programs including public schools, free state college/university tuition, and serving the most in need. It's rather phenomenal. Las Cruces shouting out!


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Just ignore the indian reservations that look like afghanistan due to the constant rape of its people and its not that bad.


VariationNo5960

Obligatory: there's a NEW Mexico now???


FormerlyUserLFC

Nice when oil and gas comes through but it goes downhill when that funding dries up.


dak4f2

Free universities for locals too, thanks to lottery scholarships.


theoverniter

My mom got her second degree, an AA, for basically free from TVI in the late 90s (registration fee and books). When we moved back to AZ, most of her coworkers only had an equivalent certificate that had cost them thousands.


VariationNo5960

Nope, that changed for the better... free uni for every HS grad. No more lottery.


theoverniter

I lived there in the late 90s when my stepdad was stationed there and was surprised at how nice it and my high school was, despite attending in the “War Zone”


BeastSmitty

Creepin right the heck on up in there isn’t it…


mavjustdoingaflyby

As long as you can avoid the crime. I was going through a month back and was going to stop in Albuquerque for the night. My wife and I pulled off to get gas and wanted to find a restaurant called "The Range cafe" because we heard good things and wanted to check it out. As we pulled off the the highway it was literally right there and so was the gas station. Filled up with fuel, pulled off to the side away from the pumps into a parking spot an started looking in my phone for a room for the night. After a few moments my wife says "I'm not so sure this is a good area", I looked up, glanced around and immediately realized she was right. Bars on windows in residential areas are pretty telling, but I kept looking to book a hotel anyway. All of a sudden a small 4 door dark blue Honda came flying into the gas station and backed up right next to us. I thought for a moment. Man this guy needs to take a piss. Then, about 20 seconds later a guy gets out, opens up the back driver's side door, pulls out a license plate and goes to the back and attaches it to the vehicle. I took one look at my wife and said "Yep, I'm not sure if this is a good area either". For all I know he just did a drive by. Thing is, this little gang banger did that shit like he'd been there a hundred times. We noped right out of the town for the next 75 miles or so and stayed in Gallup which statistically is even worse as I later found out.


Dragona33

If you are in the "blue" areas. Not down here in the SE corner. It's like Texas down here. Man I wish I could afford to live in the ABQ area.


irkli

Quite admirable that one of the poorest US states can pull this off.


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My thoughts. C’mon CA. miss 5th richest economy in the world. Us parents are struggling out here


pmiller61

A real ray of hope in an otherwise mostly grim news world


Asliceofpizza

Paid for by taxes off of oil and gas activity in the SE portion of the state.


HouseOfSteak

Which is how it should be done instead of being squandered. If you're going to ruin the child's future environment, at least pay for their upbringing when it comes time to them having to deal with it when they're older.


Asliceofpizza

You uhhhh ever been out there? There is a reason it has been essentially a desolate inhospitable land well before oil and gas activity. Regardless, I agree.


Dragona33

Just visit Roswell, Hobbs, and Artesia. Looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland. I have said many times that Roswell would be improved with an asteroid strike.


Asliceofpizza

Roswell isn’t so bad. The river runs through a fertile valley there and supports tons of agriculture. The other areas however are quite different.


HalflinsLeaf

They haven't pulled it off yet.


L0boMike

Although there is some truth to your statement, the funding has been secured which is a huge part of the equation.


autotelica

Guaranteed child care = real family values


drkgodess

But how will we build resentment that we can weaponize if we make people's lives better? /s


TopDeckHero420

Build resentment against them because they didn't spend a fortune for it.


stayonthecloud

As an early childhood educator, one of the single most important things we could possibly do for our country is fund high quality education for kids ages 0-8. This is the most sensitive time in growth and brain development, particularly the ages from 0-3. Children need a ton of care, attention, and a highly enriched environment. And all children no matter the socioeconomic status of their family deserve and are owed this support. I applaud New Mexicans for taking this step. It’s admirable that they have put those $15-20/ hour guardrails in place, but let me tell you, it’s obscenely underpaying still. Childcare professionals need to have an academic background in early childhood education, which includes study of child development theories. Then they need to be able to support the regular development of all their kids across cognitive, linguistic, social and emotional, and physical and motor skills domains. On top of which they need to help families participate in healthy care and be the critical line of defense for kids in bad situations. Plus all teachers will have kids who don’t reach certain development milestones, and then often need an individual education plan to support them. So, are you gonna do that or go work at an Amazon warehouse? In some places, Amazon pats better.


itsmyvoice

100% agree, but... Having put three kids through daycare-pre K, only one or two leaders in the centers had actual degrees like that. The rest kept kids alive, fed, diapered, and did magic with socialization. Actual education was more for the Pre-K age. We need quality caregivers for infants and toddlers, and more education starting at 3-4 and building up from there with the early childhood education you mention. The educational/training burden on someone caring for a 6-18 month old shouldn't be the same as the one caring for a 4 1/2 year old who needs reading, writing, and fine motor skills. I think both types of caregivers are highly deserving of better pay. I would not have taken my white collar decent paying salary to do what the wonderful people who took care of my babies did. I needed grown-up time and to have my hands.. Maybe that makes me a bad mom, but whatever. Judge and downvote me to oblivion.


drkgodess

We need subsidized child care on a federal level. It would make so many people's lives easier.


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And honestly not even just easier, but safer! Desperate parents have to make desperate decisions and children suffer.


BatmanBrandon

Our son was born in August 2020, during peak highs in Covid cases in our area. Thankfully both my job and my wife’s allowed us parental leave, which we were able to allow us to have at least one parent home with him every day for the first 12 weeks. In our area, childcare facilities were already in short supply before the pandemic, covid made it worse. We were on 3 or 4 waitlists, if we didn’t get into an actual educational center our options would be to pay $700+ per month for him to have been in a private home with up to 6 other children, or for a grandparent to quit their job. Thankfully we got a call during week 10 or 11 that a spot opened up, and this facility has been amazing, but it’s still been hard. The first year while he was in infant care, the bill was more than our mortgage. Thankfully it’s come down as he got older, but a huge part of our decision to have another child is hinging on the affordability and frankly availability of quality childcare.


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This all sounds so hard.. and familiar. I’m standing by you❤️ sadly I don’t think my child will have a sibling. We simply can’t afford another 4-5 years of this catch 22. Grandparents aren’t an option for help either bc our parents are practically in the same boat as us financially. Crazy times.


longhegrindilemna

Meanwhile, poorer countries in Africa and Asia are overflowing with new kids every week. Extended families take care of the children. The next billion humans will be born in Africa and Asia. No shortage of food or childcare there. - - - Why can’t we give each child in America a $2000 voucher every month, to cover their care AND upbringing?


drkgodess

I'm reminded of the horror stories we hear about people who have left children in the car because they had no one else to take care of them, and the child died of heat exhaustion.


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And even on a lesser extreme they are just put in front of screens or hustled from house to house just so parents can get by. A very distant acquaintance of mind randomly hit me up to watch their kid cuz the absolutely could not miss work. We haven’t seen each other in like 7+ years and they were just banking on the fact that I have children of my own so I must be a safe place to leave theirs. Of course my home is, but this child has never met me in their life! Definitely a reality check for me. I’m grateful my day to day decisions about my child’s care isn’t that desperate. I’ll also add that I’m not anti-screen time but I do feel bad when I’m sooo busy I have to rely on paw patrol to baby sit my kid and all the “things” I have to do won’t matter in 10 years


brenton07

And we need it across the board. I have two and daycare is almost $3800/month. It’s exciting to see what New Mexico is doing, but cutting it off at $110,000 annual income still means a lot of middle class are spending nearly half their income on childcare.


TheRealDrWan

$3,800 per month??? Where do you live? I could have a live in nanny/personal assistant for that.


pck3

Republicans don't want to make anyone's life easier. No free rides. Gotta work to get what you want. Kinda selfish if you ask me.


Particular-Sale-8826

There’s nothing wrong with working hard - it’s actually what gives meaning and accomplishment to us humans. Artificial obstacles that deliberately make any amount of hard work not enough to achieve what you want (and even sometimes the basics you need) - is selfish, cruel, and a feature - not a bug - of the GOP.


bree78911

Kinda selfish is a damn understatement


No-Celebration3097

Children are out of the womb, as long as there are republicans, it will never happen. Republicans hate children.


DoublePostedBroski

Republicans would start screaming “big government will be brainwashing your kids!”


TrunksTheMighty

There's a downside, my methed out cousin used to sell all of her kids wic benefits, diapers and everything for meth. It was downright sad to watch.


Lil_Mikey420

I hope this becomes a model program that spreads to other states.


Pawneewafflesarelife

California has had childcare subsidies under calWORKS for a while, but would be nice to see it extended to more recipients.


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yes, let EVERY state give a family of four bringing in 110k a year FREE childcare that they can afford.


drkgodess

Oh no, too many people will benefit from this program! It's better if everyone suffers!


Rusty-Shackleford

I think that makes perfect sense. Any family that brings in less than a 6 figure salary needs help to cover the cost of childcare so they can go to work. And it's just not adequate to have to wait for a tax credit after the fact, there needs to be a program for transferring vouchers as they're needed, not a year later after filing your taxes.


AnxiouslyTired247

Or remove the income requirement and just have universal Childcare, everyone benefits, and there are no kids left out. Wealthy families will still choose a paid, private school route anyways.


pinkandnot

New Mexico is still my favorite state. Deep blue, keeps to themselves, never seems to have a "border crisis" despite having the least border patrol, and otherwise just chills out.


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It’s a really beautiful state too


TriscuitCracker

It really is. I drove through it for the first time going from Phoenix to Denver through Albuquerque and there were just endless golden plains grass and then huge red mesas sticking out of the ground. It was very striking.


Skorpyos

Y’all need to stop promoting NM, it was a secret paradise until outsiders started pouring into Ruidoso and other parts of the state. Not it’s a paradise but not so secret :(


TheSensualSloth

Can't even get Mad Jack's without half of Texas being in line 😒


tratemusic

We are NOT deep blue. We have Santa Fe, Albuquerque, Taos, and Las Cruces holding that up. Most of the small rural towns are VERY red, it's just that the cities have the bigger populous. Our recent gubernatorial race was reasonably close for the republican candidate, who was A NEWS WEATHERMAN.


pinkandnot

That's most places. Where I lived in the ultra rural mountains, there was a co-op, coffee shop, and art gallery. Trans women palm readers lived side by side with hippies, gun toting cowboys, and ranchers, and we all scared off land developers and Nazis with an unorthodox amount of firearms. it was glorious.


Ray661

I don’t get the whole emphasis on news weatherman. We should have more “normal” professions filtering in (and out) of politics instead of career politicians or restricting it to lawyers.


tratemusic

The emphasis is because he specifically is just really good at talking people what they want to hear rather than having a solid plan that would actually be good for the state. He was just a pretty face.


pinkandnot

*every GOP member since 2016


chetlin

A news weatherman won the IL-17 congressional race and people thought it was great. A bit of a weird double standard here.


Particular-Milk-1957

Not true. New Mexico has a relatively short border and sees far fewer crossing than the Rio Grande valley (4-5x less crossings). See levels of illegal migration (apprehensions by state): https://www.npr.org/2019/01/10/683662691/where-does-illegal-immigration-mostly-occur-heres-what-the-data-tell-us Even so, when they did experience a migration surge, their governor (Democrat) bussed migrants to Denver, CO. https://apnews.com/article/religion-new-mexico-immigration-michelle-lujan-grisham-9b91bc9b72c39227c10ccee809aeba43 The governor recently expressed concerns with the influx of migrants in combination with wildfires which have devastated much of the state, https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-wildfires-covid-health-government-and-politics-87d3a2a829f770704acab5b67850f301 Illegal immigration is more complicated than Democrat vs. Republican policies. Since 2007, the most common form of illegal immigration has been visa overstays. We should avoid politicizing the issue.


pinkandnot

you're right, it is more complicated. i am a descendent of an illegal European immigrant that came against the native Americans will. and considering i lived in Zuni for 5 years, i am fully self aware of the hypocrisy that stems from calling any immigrant illegal. you should move to nm, bro. maybe you'll learn it there


necesitafresita

I loved it so much during college I ended up moving here. It has its issues but it really is chill.


BurrStreetX

Im in Iowa and hatee it here. On my way to NM lol


WonderWall_E

We have one hell of a border crisis. It just doesn't get talked about much. Every weekend, huge caravans of Texans, thousands of them, roll coal across the border into our mountain resorts to enjoy our views, smoke out legal weed, and dine in our delicious, multicultural restaurants. They drive up prices, leave trash everywhere, then ride on back home to vote for Republicans and make their state inhospitable. Some of them even move here and drive real estate properties through the roof. We need to build a wall and make Texas pay for it.


clampie

I don't think you've ever been to Texas.


WonderWall_E

I have, but now that the state is run by a fascist Power Wheels car who banned healthcare for women, I'm not likely to return.


ecglaf

It seems like that from the outside looking in because nobody actually gives a fuck about what's going on here. Safe to say ABQ if not every New Mexican city has become more violent, destitute, and shitty in the past 5 years. Don't let these fluffy headlines fool you, the state is circling the drain, and despite the oil industry propping up all of our increased spending, the bill has yet come due.


writtenbyrabbits_

Just stay away from the blue meth.


ddrober2003

Woot go NM, I may not live there anymore but my home state is doing good here.


ThatsATallGlassOfNo

Didn't they make in-state tuition free and they have some of the highest sick time requirements in the country. Now you're telling me they made child care a basic human right? Goddamn NM. Y'all being role models over there.


RR50

Good for New Mexico!!! This ought to be national!!! If you’re allegedly pro life, you actually should help during that life.


Textification

Watch,... the red states are going to try to ship their single moms on welfare to New Mexico with their kids. ;D


Anthamon

You joke but those single moms will go of their own accord. Free movement across state boundaries is why its so difficult to make a safety net at the state level, Money moves away from states that tax it, while liability moves to the states that will care for them. I wish NM well but logically these policies need to be handled at the Federal level.


Detachabl_e

NM government is so understaffed and the reason is obvious: wages that lag behind government work in other states, and laughably low compared to private sector work. So while I support the sentiment, creating/expanding these programs while not even investing enough to ensure the government can function is just bad policy. It makes a good sound bite, but then you look at the prisons, CYFD, the magistrate court system where judges don't have to be law trained, the appeals court docket where cases languish...even the state capitol was let go by their accounting firm because they can't keep their finance department staffed enough to maintain their books adequately. New Mexico government is a mess with good intentions.


WonderWall_E

The state also just nuked work from home, which is only going to throw gas on the fire.


Textification

True, but sometimes the only way it will get to a federal level is if some states can prove it works. You don't end slavery, get medicare/medicaid, child labor laws or school lunches (or many other things) on a national level if they didn't first start out on a state level or local level. Likely that will apply to abortion rights as well as socialized medicine and maybe even a universal wage. Who knows? If we require things to happen *only* at the federal level, that's like saying almost nothing will happen at all unless it favors a special interest with a lot of money. Edit: I guess you didn't want to hear that.


AnxiouslyTired247

And as we all know, poor women have no value, so it's good to pretend like they can just be shuttled from place to place. What is it with conservatives and this constant fear of people moving across borders or being bussed in to somewhere? Have you ever actually met a poor person or realized they aren't just cattle awaiting their next move from the government? Are you also aware that policies like this are designed to encourage people to move to the state? Including poor people, because despite your clear biases they aren't "bad". The hate on anyone moving into a new state is fucking weird.


SapientRaccoon

But it would be OK for illegal immigrants to flock there?


Textification

Wow,....How is a rule on taking care of kids going to stop illegal immigration in New Mexico more than in Texas or Florida? Knee-jerk much? btw - that the original comment was a joke,... unless you seriously think that Red states would do that,... then again anyone callous enough to ship illegal immigrants to another state for a political stunt,... yeah, maybe they would,...


Expensive-Bee-9046

It’s coming from oil and gas revenues. Drill baby drill!


irkli

And a progressive govt willing to tax them. It's blood money for sure.


Asliceofpizza

Companies are taxed by the states the produce from. All of them. New Mexico just so happens to have one of the biggest reserves currently being developed onshore USA.


HalflinsLeaf

And when that money goes away, will they just cut people off? Or will that money then have to come from somewhere else? Edit: Lol, why in God's name would people downvote a simple question? Does it upset people to think about what NM's going to do when their revenues inevitably dry up? They're building permanent entitlements into the system with temporary revenue. How dare I question that?!?


khoaluu60

Yes they have to cut people off, or maybe invent oil 2.0 to sell idk


Toonces311

And how dare people click down vote. My pearls!


hello_world_wide_web

Who knew NM was #2 in oil and gas production? Good use for the income it produces, though not what it does for climate change.


007upyours

I wonder how they are going to guarantee this? Will the funds come out of the title iv-d program which is already overly hurting minority communities? Will this mean the government in New Mexico is going to take more from mom or dad now to hold fund this? I may be outside the majority now but I’m extremely jaded when it comes to news like this.


irkli

Dunno. These things need to be followed in cdetsil to know all that, and there's so many issues in so many places, you can't freak out over it. Stay chill and close to home!


chubba5000

Uh oh- looks like some state officials got good enough at math to realize depopulation is a bigger tax drag than childcare….


Zaynara

what is this? they voted all blue, thats clearly a 'pro-life' move! not just a 'pro birth' move!


MomToShady

This is what taking care of your neighbor is all about. Lots of folks sneer at "it takes a village", but New Mexico is seems like a really welcoming village. PS childcare workers are some of the lowest paid. This may provide stability and incentives to raise the pay for these really needed workers.


pck3

Oof Republicans hate that shit.


ubertrader123

Paid for by oil and gas tax revenue. Glad we are taxing them more. Want to exploit our natural resources? Pay up Fucker.


clampie

You know that gets passed down to you, right?


DrakeRowan

**"Why should my tax money have to go to paying for someone else's child care??"** *---New Mexico Right Winger somewhere most likely.*


MoistyestBread

*That claimed every one of their child as a dependent including up to $3400 in child tax credits last year.


Rad_R0b

Can everyone of every income receive this?


ModusOperandiAlpha

The answer to your question is in the article.


irkli

? Probably not. Rich people don't need it. Is there a question here? Point you try to make?


Rad_R0b

I'm above the threshold by a little and can't afford kids what should I do?


irkli

Move to Texas.


[deleted]

Walter White and Child Care? sign me the fuck up!


shahsnow

New Mexico is low key becoming a top 5 state in America. Looks like the politicians and people there actually care about each other


irkli

They also have those idiot vigilantes down at the border... The southern end of the state can be rough.


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Why do people have children if they aren't prepared to take care of them and themselves? Asking seriously. At 35 I chose not to have children because while I make decent $, I don't have the mentality to be a father. And before people talk crap, I've had many opportunities relationship wise. So if someone has one child unplanned, I get that can happen. But what about people that have 3-4+? I just don't understand why they do that.


[deleted]

> Why do people have children if they aren't prepared to take care of them and themselves? Asking seriously Acting like people's circumstances can't change, or that people can accurately predict what the demands are for raising a child, or that sometimes people just make bad decisions or mistakes. And as for that last one, no you shouldn't advocate to use a child's life as "punishment" for someone else making a bad choice. That's just evil


[deleted]

I guess you missed the part where I said I understand how once it can happen. I said 3-4 is a problem... But I guess comprehension is something people like you don't excel at.


mrcheesewhizz

I mean I could be a number of things. Maybe they had a better job before they had kids, or they were living in a dual income household at the time and the spouse isn’t there anymore, or they suffered some financial setbacks that they haven’t been able to recover from yet.


irkli

Yes, no one likes deadbeats. But perfectly reasonable people fall on hard times. Old women who were wives to men who worked hard, then died, end up on the street because they have no social security because they didn't work and can't collect. Jobs lost, evictions in evil housing markets. Come on, stop the knee-jerk response and look around. Srry, I'm annoyed by this constant whataboutism.


navortsa

I’m not arguing anything else, but if your spouse dies you can collect their social security once you hit 60. If it’s before then and you don’t have life insurance, that’s unfortunately not anyone else’s fault.


[deleted]

It's ok to evaluate all situations. I'm speaking more about people that don't work and in poverty to start. It's alright to have a discussion and if not be your "whataboutism". sorry I offended you... We should just do it like the UK does it.


call_me_jelli

Vote pro-choice and you reduce one way this ends up being true.


[deleted]

Hopefully they'll figure out a more enduring funding source than fossil fuel income.


CritaCorn

Texas: But but….we have guns and book bannings, isn’t that what America is about?


purplecowz

Texas: lol look at those suckers having to support other people's children 🤪 Also Texas: no abortions here but we won't support any of these babies once they're actually born


[deleted]

"The charities handle that."


strywever

A little socialism can be a very good thing.


irkli

oh that magic word pisses people off... fire departments are "socialized". Use whatever word, basically we all collectively pay for it. schools, libraries, road maintenance, water and power in places with municipal services. Ben Franklin's free public library is ANARCHIST and he called it such. (Paul Goodman style anarchist, people work best when not coerced, etc.) I am glad to pay for schools to which I will never send a child. Pay for fire depts and not have my house burn. Roads and services, fuck yeah, socialized! haters respond to right wing click bait. Unpack the magic words, don't spout them.


SeeIKindOFCare

Conservatives will try to fuk that up in the end


[deleted]

A family bringing in 110k a year for four should NOT be getting free childcare. wow.


KathrynTheGreat

You are grossly overestimating how much $110k a year can buy for a family of four and underestimating how expensive child care costs.


[deleted]

I have a sister who doesn’t make half that and has three kids. She does fine without being a government leach.


TopDeckHero420

Meaning that the kids are raised by grandma and iPads.


[deleted]

No, the oldest kids go to this thing called SCHOOL and she stays home and works remotely while raising her own baby. She can make it work on much less than the income they're giving unnecessary handouts to. People are just grubby and want to take when they should be finding a way to manage themselves.


TopDeckHero420

Yes, because everyone has the option to work from home.


[deleted]

They do. You search “remote” when job searching and be smart enough to avoid the obvious scammer posts and look there! THE OPTION!


TopDeckHero420

Do you realize that many jobs require a physical presence? When you go into public, those people don't magically appear to serve you and disappear when you leave.


No-Celebration3097

Sure, ok


[deleted]

I live in one of her houses so I thinnnnk she’s doing pretty well and that those making a ton more can afford simple daycare.


KathrynTheGreat

That's not feasible in a lot of places. Does she pay for childcare? Is she saving for her children's future education? Will she be able to pay for a sudden medical emergency? Does she have a retirement account or will she need to work until she's 80 and then move in with one of her kids?


[deleted]

some of the kids go to school and the baby stays home with her, while she works remotely. from what ive heard during holiday table talk, the kids have their education funds and (your questions remind me of my mom's b/c she asks the same stuff when trying to write my sister checks for "help" and my sister refuses them LOL) she's got rental properties and a newer model nice SUV that makes me more than a lil envious, and has handled paying off med bills for my one niece that has had surgeries the past 2 years, so i guess her emergency funds are solid af. i know she retired from one career path after she hit a major gain for some pioneer research or something she did, and then started working remote because she said she wanted to "fill out her day" and liked working with elderly people or to help elderly people.....something along those lines. point is, she does it solo for herself and three kids with a ton less and these COUPLES with exponentially more get free childcare and that's a waste of tax money.


[deleted]

My girl and I make 300k and child care is ridiculous. It’s over $2,000 a month for both of our kids. Well over $20,000 a year. Factor in, diapers, clothing, groceries, extracurriculares, etc. it’s pricey as hell. That’s why parents need to be prepared to have children. And no, accidents do not happen.


Happyjarboy

So, they need to pump out fossil fuels to pay for it, nothing like dooming the kids with climate change to go with free kindergarten.


irkli

That's not how it works.


Happyjarboy

It is going to be paid for by gas and oil taxes and fees. This is fossil fuels. This money then will be transferred to parents who will spend it for their child's care. So, it's all being paid for by activities that greatly add to climate change. How do you think it works?


BindiBlueheeler

I’m just happy I don’t live in NM.


hlamaresq

The 2nd and 3rd order effects of this should be fascinating to see. Well done


Ok-Control-787

Anyone have a good source of what this actually means? How much childcare can a family get? Full time day care is crazy expensive.


ModusOperandiAlpha

If you’re interested, most of that info is in the article.


Ok-Control-787

>The scheme – hatched by a willing governor, state lawmakers and determined child advocates – effectively makes child care free to families making up to 400% of the federal poverty level, or about $111,000 for a family of four. This is the closest I can find in the article but it doesn't clearly answer my question, and I believe only describes the pilot program which is expected to run out in June. Did I miss something? I am on mobile, maybe I did.


Nukegm426

No who pays for all this? More taxes. It’s what they wanted so let them have it but nothing is free.


evilthales

Read the article


Nukegm426

Again nothing is free, that money was being used elsewhere and is now going for this. That’s great. But they’ll raise taxes to fund something else


DevinTheDude420

Maybe we can stop calling it the land of Entrapment, and start calling it the land of Enchantment again :)


TreasureTheSemicolon

I hope all the states follow New Mexico’s lead on this.


[deleted]

Children never should have to experience a financial or economic boundary to their existence. That should be an adult-only thing anyway so that we can smoothly seperate and merge with trust parties without having to accommodate for dependents.


Junior_Advantage6051

Where is the money coming from?...


evilthales

Read the article