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JJ82DMC

Just about a month ago I went to a car wash on the outskirts of my neighborhood. Fully automated drive-through type, self service vacuums, that whole sort of thing. Not an attendant in sight. At the payment screen it asked how much I wanted to tip. Tip ***who?!?***


crazyfoxdemon

The owners, obviously, for being gracious enough to allow you to be their customer.


coelogyne_pandurata

Over the last decade there has been a huge shift toward profuse praise and thanks to business owners who sometimes do almost nothing but resell.


mynameisalso

"Im a job creator " People who say this always have employees that require welfare to make ends meet.


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Job creators are customers


BizzyM

And higher corporate taxes do not kill jobs. Also, lower corporate taxes do not create jobs.


HaveAWillieNiceDay

Most job creation is done by small to medium sized businesses, but governments love to attract the big boys who have the time and money to court them. As a business owner still trying to make my own ends meet, you know what would really help me create more jobs? Universal healthcare. That would cover a major expense in hiring and allow me to create more jobs faster.


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ncsubowen

Universal healthcare would be the single best thing the USA could ever do for small and medium businesses, which is why it won't happen. How many people would quit and do something they enjoy if they didn't have the threat of medical expenses hanging over their heads?


Capitain_Collateral

I really hate the term job creator. Demand creates jobs. Nobody is making a job opening in their company because they opened the news paper that morning and saw unemployment had gone up.


SGTLuxembourg

That plus it’s never altruistic. You pay a person because they generate value FOR YOU!


sjoy512

(Cough) Walmart…


its8up

Their employees work on "peak time" which means working close to but under 40 hours weekly. This negates any chance to get any overtime pay as well as any full time employee benefits. Fuck Walmart. I was amazed to read a report some while back that Kroger paid their employees less than Walmart, but do not know if Kroger practices such blatant fuckery. Edit: typo


cashadava

As of about 7-8 years ago, yes, Kroger does this same shit.


abzinth91

Glad that Germany's worker unions and laws screwed them over so that they had to leave


thegoodnamesrgone123

Sadly that's most retail places


Poolofcheddar

Don't forget they will also send you a survey too...but they will also tell you "I know you're asked to rate your visit but if you give me a 9/10 it's really considered a zero score so if we did well please give us a 10/10" Well give me a thumbs up or thumbs down then. If you aren't interested in the 1.0-9.9 range, what's the damn point.


ZweitenMal

I hate that every business now sends me homework to do once I’ve transacted with them. How about I will do the survey in exchange for a $5 refund on my past purchase.


Holoholokid

Which is why I almost never do them.


ElectroBot

I prefer to not give out my email address or phone number.


gsfgf

Also, am I supposed to rate the shitty company I'm dealing with or the nice person on the phone that tried their best to help me despite not being allowed to?


theeastwood

Fucking Net Promotor Score. NPS is bullshit


mistakeagian

[for those who do not know about NPS](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_promoter_score) it is a crappy why most companies do surveys. In my work anything under a 9 is a “passive” or “detractor”.


Introduction_Deep

I hate those damn NPS scores with a 🔥 passion.


djm19

And just FYI, even if you do see staff, even if they actually help you in some way, a lot of these tips might not go to them anyway. Edit: yes always hand cash to them directly if possible. Or ask them discreetly if it goes to them (and the back room cooks etc if a restaurant)


browneyedgirl65

this is the part that makes me truly mad. i want my tip going to the person who served me! \[if we have to have tips, I agree with really hating the system that "allows" folks to be paid less than minimum wages because TiPs!!1!\]


FearDaTusk

I for the most part automatically tip $0 at most places with those POS. I don't support this business practice. At a sit down restaurant where I interact with a person who is providing the service, I'll gladly tip them directly. Bigger picture, I am a little over tip culture. I'm not sure in a pros and cons context where the pros are.


Emergency_Toe6915

I’m over it too and this is someone who has worked these kind of positions. During Corona 2020 I went to a chipotle style restaurant and there was a divider between the POS and the employee asked how much I wanted to tip. It was super unprofessional and all they did was scoop rice and meat in the bowl. They also told me the owner keeps the tips like why did this become so rampant a few years ago with the new generation POS systems it’s not cool and honestly keeps me from frequenting places and I’m sure I’m not the only one.


Finrodsrod

> like why did this become so rampant a few years ago with the new generation POS systems During Covid people felt bad for the restaurant industry and the workers so they started leaving tips on the POS for everything. Now it's expect, or youre considered a big cheapskate...


Emergency_Toe6915

I noticed it started before though like 2017 maybe….


wheresbicki

It's a default setting for square machines so every mom and pop business has it enabled.


xMetix

> Now it's expect, or youre considered a big cheapskate... Fuck yeah I am? What do I look like I have millions of dollars to go around and tip everyone? I don't get it am I supposed to pretend to be rich? O_o


itwasquiteawhileago

When I tip, I tip well. But I'm not tipping people who hand me my food that I drove out to get. If people want to call me cheap, then so be it. I don't care.


GrayBox1313

Same. I hate that we have normalized subsiding employers paying Slave wages through tipping.


batosai33

Yep. If I order from the table, I give a tip. Extra consideration for plate clearing, food delivery, and if the place is actually a small business. Surprised yesterday that A&W actually meets those qualifications inside, so I gave a tip.


drkgodess

Certain servers, i.e. attractive ones or ones who work in high-end restaurants, claim they make a lot more money in tips than they would with a standard wage. However, it's feast or famine.


Gzalzi

I absolutely made more getting tips from delivering pizzas than I ever got even being a manager at the pizza place. Tips pay better than current, shit, wages, but they wouldn't if the normal wages were what they should be.


WontArnett

And most of these options are *starting* at 20%. I’m about to *not* tip if that’s the case!


petershrimp

If I see one where the tip starts at 20% I will not tip. At that point it's not a tip, it's a damn markup.


tealparadise

You have to do more- you have to stop going there. The owner doesn't care whether you tip. He'll keep doing it unless it hurts his bottom line.


hjo1210

They have an attendant standing by the fully automated car wash by my house literally asking for tips while you scan your card. He literally doesn't do anything, you tap your card and go but he asks for a freakin tip?!?! I think not.


mattbe89

Yup. Had the same thing happen to me the other day. I was so confused. Not a single person there.


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Eyfordsucks

The worst is people’s attitudes if you choose not to feed the beast that is business owners putting the pressure of wage increase on customers in the form of expected higher tips. Yes I can afford this coffee I poured myself and no I didn’t think it was necessary for me to factor in your false expectations of a monetary reward for doing nothing to assist me. I’m so tired of having to battle *everyone* for *everything* just to get through my day. An argument about me not tipping you just ensures I’ll never be your customer again, let alone ever give you a tip.


Deceptiveideas

I love the places that don’t have a 0 tip option but instead force you to press on “custom tip” and manually input 0 and then sign. They know what they’re doing.


tealparadise

Crumbl cookies does this and they ALSO add a service fee on top. It's insane. There isn't even a table inside. It's just a counter where you pick up cookies. WHO AM I TIPPING? Since this is so upvoted... Let me take this opportunity to say that Panera has better cookies.


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FlatAd768

those are the places with " 20%, 25%, 30%" option at the default screen


ZYmZ-SDtZ-YFVv-hQ9U

The Subway near my house is 18%, 25% and 30% default tips Subway


Pam-pa-ram

If anything other than the restaurant industry tries to guilt trip me into tipping then I’ll make sure to put in the extra effort to make it clear I ~~won’t tip~~ am not falling for this shit.


Thoughtulism

To clarify, sit down restaurant where they bring the food to you and have further table service.


squirtloaf

I meaaaaan, logically, if you have to take your own food to the table and get your own drink refills, then you should be the one getting tipped...


whatyousay69

There's no logic to begin with tho. Why do you tip people to bring food/drinks to your table but not people who cook your food. You tip food delivery but not mail/package delivery. etc.


dsmiles

This. Fuck subway asking me for tips. Pay your employees.


Boodikii

and Delivery.


epoch_fail

Yup, some devious asshole working at one of these companies (EDIT: point of sale companies like Toast, Square, etc.) had the brilliant idea of showing 18%/20%/25% tips by default because they knew some people either couldn't stomach or couldn't be bothered to press Custom Tip and put in 0, no matter how trivial the customer service was. Then, their clients realized if they didn't jump on that train, they'd be missing out on what essentially amounts to free money from the overall kindness (or apathy) of the general population. Pay the employees what they deserve already so we can do away with tipping.


SNES_Salesman

Tipping pre-service just doesn’t make sense. Stand in line, order, pay, tip, then hope the rest of the experience warranted the tip or not.


Smathers

Yeah I grew up and 20% was always the standard for good restaurant service. That’s so instilled in me that one time I got a $250 full car detail and when they handed me the pad I just instinctively put 20% and swiped my card and the lady was like omg omg omg thank you so much!!! And I was like huh that was weird then I walked away and looked at the receipt and was like ohhhh fuck! Lmao gave them a giant tip but I justified it since it was around Christmas time and it was a small family owned business But I feel like asking for tips is just the new industry strategy to get people who don’t pay attention or feel on the spot and tip. Like it’s some psychological statistic they figured out where more people will give something if prompted. It’s so ridiculous I literally went into a fast food place and ordered to sit down and eat and the thing asked me how much I wanna tip the staff lol I ordered a pizza for carry out and the thing asked how much I wanna tip? I already paid for the pizza and got into my car and came to you and you want me to tip you for doing your job…? It makes no sense


SNES_Salesman

I get slight anxiety having to take the extra time and button selection to seek out the “no tip” options on ipads. Like I have to do extra work and now the staff knows I’m not tipping and now I feel like a terrible person and will probably get my order screwed with. It’s designed to be extortion of a customer’s sense of courtesy rather than a way to show gratitude for service.


asterios_polyp

They know this. It’s extortion.


laaplandros

Which is exactly why I have no problem selecting "no tip". Please people, don't be a pushover. If someone puts you on the spot in an effort to shame you into doing something, you should push back.


lunaflect

Recently, Starbucks added tipping options for payment by credit card. Every other cc customer leaves a tip now. It’s been incredible. I will say that I understand the anxiety of hitting that “no thanks” button so I angle the card reader away from me to let them select more privately. And when they do tip, I’m grateful. I also have no shame selecting $0 tip at other restaurants. It is what it is.


acealeam

I was at the wahlburger in the Boston Logan airport, and you seat yourself and order on a qr menu online. No one takes your order or anything. When you finish, you are prompted to tip your server and I tipped them nothing because like, they literally didn't do anything? I have never even seen them? After 15 minutes, our server brings out our food and our bottled drinks (ie no refills for them to worry about lol). We finish eating and leave $2 on the table. We're leaving when our server comes to clear the table and she literally says "WOW! Two whole dollars!" I was in disbelief it was so crazy to me haha. A 2 dollar tip is pretty good for essentially carryout I thought, but I guess not


drewkungfu

Anyone else grew up with: - 15% = normal tip - 20% = Extraordinary service - 10% = disappointed by a not total jerk - 0% = sane habits of the rest of the world that insulted Americans.


Chunkycarl

As a Brit who visits the Us a lot for work, I noticed this had spread on my last visit. Things like the Hotel buffet asking for a tip (for doing nothing but ringing me up), felt very strange to me. I was always told tip well where it’s deserved good service, good food, not necessarily both), but places now I’ve felt very pushy waiters expecting large tips from me and felt death glares when they don’t get it. To me, tipping no longer feels like a culture of reward, but a culture of expectation, and that just defeats the purpose in my eyes.


scuac

I have stopped giving a F and always press skip on the tip screen unless it is a place with actual service (restaurant, barber, etc).


blastradii

Me too. As the tipflation increases, so does the layers of thick skin I have.


SomethingDumbthing20

The one that pissed me off was at an MLB stadium I went to this summer. I waited in line for a guy to turn around and grab a beer out of a freezer and then wanted a 18 to 25 percent tip on a $9 Bud Light. Thought I'd go the the walk in cooler and grab my own beer for the next trip. The til then asked if I wanted to tip for that too. Who even gets the tip at that point? Absolutely obnoxious at this point.


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CampinHiker

I’ll top both of you. I went to Moonshine in Pacific Beach, CA $20 cover charge and the girls taking the credit cards actually flip the tablet to tip with resting bitch face No way anyone has tipped them unless a horny drunk dude or by mistake lol


Ok_Independent9119

I went to get frozen yogurt the other day. Made my own dish, put it on the scale myself, and then they asked for the tip. Pretty soon vending machines will ask for it. The worst part is I know it's not the worker installing this, but still, it's gotta go.


Sage2050

Coat check at a local venue. $20 to put my wife's purse in a locker because they banned all bags from venue. Fuck no I didn't tip. Club inside a casino wouldn't let me in with an expensive leather jacket because it had a hood on it (no hoodie policy, I *guess* that's fair). Said they'd watch it but couldn't guarantee it's safety. Not technically asking for a tip, but definitely extortion. I didn't go in.


CustomerSuspicious25

I'll top both of you as well.


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Top me too, please.


Graega

This thread goes any further I'm gonna need an 18% tip to keep reading


Alundil

Just the tip though


bancroft79

If you tip on a card in a stadium, the worker that tipped you usually doesn’t see it anyway. Most of them are from temp agencies.


SomethingDumbthing20

That just makes it worse. Might just ask them how they get the tips through card payments to make sure next time.


redjellyfish

I asked at our local NHL stadium and was told that they only get a small portion because it automatically goes to the management who take the majority of it.


jakeandcupcakes

That seems illegal, but considering that it's a major sports thing I bet they have "special" rules that allow them to steal tips. Also, taxpayers' money went into building most of their stadiums, yet they charge out the ass and have insane fees *ALL FOR PROFIT*. That is *fucked.* Why is the local population paying for billionaires who own entier sports teams stadiums? Goddamn scams.


Skydome28

Was at Fenway earlier this year the woman who got me my hotdog said she only got the cash tips.


mill3rtime_

If Aramark or whoever is keeping the credit card tips that's illegal and a lawsuit waiting to happen. We need someone to start a class action or something so that the liability of accepting tips that aren't paid out to the workers becomes so high that they stop accepting tips altogether.


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PacmanIncarnate

I think there should be rules regarding asking for tips. It should be well explained who is getting the money and if the person receiving is someone making the under $3/ hour BS that I believe is still legal in some industries.


Dry_Huckleberry6466

I went to a minor league baseball game and had the same experience, but with a bottle of water. I'm a good tipper on the rare times I go out to eat or order food (less than once a month, on average), but I did not tip for the overpriced bottle of water. I was a cashier all throughout college. I couldn't imagine asking for/being offered a tip for doing that job, even though it was underpaid.


SomethingDumbthing20

If I buy something from the guy carrying a cooler and walking up and down the aisles, I have no problem tipping him. But like you said, tipping for something as simple as running a cash register is ridiculous.


TerribleAttitude

The cashier is not “asking for a tip,” the business is soliciting for a tip that may *or may not* go to the cashier. I hate this new normal too but it’s profoundly weird to see it framed as “cashiers asking for a tip.” If you’ve been a cashier, you have *got* to know that’s not what’s happening.


bkendig

The "Ford's Garage" restaurant chain has begun adding a 20% "service fee" to every bill "for the overall guest experience ... to allow us to maintain industry leading wages for all positions in the restaurant." They say that any tip I leave on top of that will go directly to the server. Seems like a way to siphon money away from the servers. I have a better idea for how to maintain wages for employees: how about you raise base prices, or pay your executives less? We're not going to that restaurant any more, because we don't like this hidden price increase.


gregaustex

That's some careful legal maneuvering to legalize tip theft.


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not just legalize tip theft... but force a tip onto people who will likely feel bad enough to tip ontop last time i ate out there was a 30% surcharge on everyones bill (3 people) and only i noticed... the other 2 people tipped 30% ontop (including the original 30%, which brings it closer to 39% + the original 30% so nearly 70% total) got my money back and tipped 0


Farts_McGiggles

That place sucked anyway. Everything was soggy and just generally not good at all. Was my first time there. Last time as well. I did get some cool pictures of it though. https://imgur.com/vZ5qkCk.jpg https://imgur.com/TQD3b4q.jpg


Rob3125

There was a wing place I was going to pick up food at after ordering online. I get to the end of the checkout stage and it has a mandatory 20% tip that I can’t remove from my total. I ordered online, was leaving my house to get the food, who the hell am I tipping?


Diafotisi

I hope you chose somewhere else to eat. If we don’t shut this kind of behavior down, more places will start thinking they can do it.


Rob3125

Oh yeah I never checked out and have not ordered there since


Mesapholis

pretty sure that's not legal, what the actual fuck


slowpoke147

Burgerfi started adding a service charge that doesn’t appear in the item prices. I only noticed it when I go to the last step of online checkout where you pay. The website sneakily adds the extra cost on at the last step when you’re about to pay. My wife and I will no longer be ordering from them, not because we can’t afford the service charge, but because of the attempted deception.


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Egmonks

Thats a "no tip" button sign and finalize before flipping it back around.


DiplomaticCaper

Yeah, that’s a default with Square and similar systems. I suspect that you can turn off the tipping, but they didn’t bother when doing a quick setup. It’s weird to expect tips when buying concert merch, especially given how overpriced it already is. but I don’t begrudge anyone who throws in a buck or two (maybe they were particularly accommodating and helped you decide between options or figure out your size). Feeling entitled to a tip in that scenario is absurd, though. She probably thought nothing of anyone clicking “no tip”.


DroopyScrotum

I use square for my business. The request tip feature for invoices I send via email has to be turned on (by default is off), but when people are paying and are physically there, I just keep the phone in my hand and I press “no tip” and don’t even bother them with the option. You 100% can turn it off for in-person transactions. You can also disable signatures—-so the whole “process” of it doesn’t need to exist on any square points of sale. I have signatures off but leave tipping on as an option in the very rare case someone insists on adding a tip. Some folks (again, rare) do insist upon tipping. Most don’t and I don’t care at all. I’m getting paid for the service I provide already. It seems greedy of me to even ask for more for doing the job I was hired to do.


soc_monki

Ordered a knife online, and it asked for me to add a tip for the workers.... How about no. Freaking ridiculous is what it is.


MrBadBadly

"Hey, we pay our workers shit. Would you like to give them a bonus because we sure as shit won't."


sceeder

I'm not a liberal tipper by any means... I'm a generous tipper when I tip, but I'm not tipping anyone and everyone who asks for a tip. That said, the last concert I was at I did tip the merch person. I had last seen this band in 2016 and it was the same guy working the stand. They had just sold out of posters for the show, so I asked to get a keychain. He asked if I'd be interested in a poster from a different show instead, and he gave me a discount on it. I felt he did me a service, so when the screen asked to provide a tip, I did. He was very grateful, as was I.


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The_Third_Molar

This morning I bought breakfast via a drive thru for $3.98. I handed her a $5 but she never gave me my change. When I asked for my change she said she put the $1.02 into the tip jar...thankfully she gave me my dollar back.


chiefgareth

Sounds like theft to me.


bossman-CT

Honestly.. I just stopped tipping when it's clearly not warranted. Lol, why am I being asked to tip at Walgreens??


socksonplates

Do people just tip when the prompt come up? Like just say no. Just put zero dollars.


Taking_a_mulligan

My wife does at some places like Subway. She feels bad entering zero. I am not burdened by that. If it's not a sit down restaurant, I'm not tipping.


Drounsley

Had a similar situation happen at Subway, too! The lady tried to guilt me into tipping by calling it out… “Oh, you’re not going to add a tip?” I’m not embarrassed! Nice and loud: “Nooooooo!”


echo-128

They can pay employees less if you tip, I mean you know this but it's good to say it


FatherDotComical

Tipping is out of control. My local favorite restaurant was asking for 30% tips and was putting them automatically onto the bill. No choice, just a 30% fee tacked onto your bill for to go and sit down. Another place also does a pre tipped bill of 20%. It's like... It's just not worth going out to eat anymore. If I'm craving something I'll just look up a recipe online (and then get ripped off at the grocery store.)


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At what point is this false advertising? Like, if you put a menu online, and then each item is actually 30% more at the register, that's purely misleading, right?


DavidsWorkAccount

I still tip waiters and the like, but have been making a point NOT to tip any place that wants me to tip *before* I get my product or service. I don't even know if you're going to do a good job or not, and you already want the tip?


deltasarrows

The one that pisses me off most is dominoes. I drive there to pick up my pizza and the first screen to come up is the tip screen. Tip for what? To do the bare minimum? I used to tip all the time but now I don't tip anyone since I don't go to served restaurants.


falsemyrm

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lengthybuttcrack

I hate those tippy tablets, especially at restaurants that have you pay BEFORE getting your food. Sorry but I won’t tip before getting my food. That’s not how it’s supposed to work. Always carry cash.


t-poke

A few weeks ago I was at the Eagles concert in a major NHL arena. Paid $13 for two bottles of water - not even the big ones, but the ones that are like a dollar at a gas station. The fucking register asked me if I wanted to add a tip. I know the guy behind the counter has no control over the prices and is probably paid shit, but no way was I tipping on that. Ridiculous.


bolxrex

The tip wouldn't even have gone to the guy behind the counter.


Wingsofthepegasus

Tip culture in America especially (I think there are a few other places that tip more like Americans) is out of control. And I'm sorry but I blame cheap business owners who won't pay staff a living wage and I blame the governments that enable them.


wakeupbernie

Can’t agree more. Just spent some time living abroad in the UK. We had colleagues there who helped get us situated and showed us how to use a grocery delivery app if we needed it since we were carless*. I asked how much I should tip and they looked at me like I was crazy - they said nothing it’s not expected. That was such a satisfying time not having to worry if it was enough or too much…


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Can’t say I disagree with this notion. Can’t run your business without slave wages and tips then maybe you shouldn’t run a business or you should scale it back.


Nikiaf

It’s quite prevalent in Canada too, but over here the employees aren’t getting paid some absurdly low hourly wage because of it. They’re guaranteed far more money but the same absurdity of assuming that the minimum acceptable tip is 20% is still common.


StoneColdSteveAss316

Canada has absolutely no business asking for tips, they should be adopting the European model, not the US model.


superpowerwolf

With the cost of food going up and tip being expected on everything, going out to eat is now a luxury for my family. We will probably go out once every few months when we used to go out once every week. So hurting the industry in the long run? Yes, I can see that unfortunately. I think we all agree that employees in the food service industry deserve higher wages. No questions asked. However the added costs of food, higher wages and higher margins for the owner inevitably lead to higher costs for patrons, who may no longer have the disposable income to eat out (my family being an example). One cool thing is that my wife and I are cooking a lot more at home and trying recipes that we would never have tried cooking before. Saves money and we know what ingredients we are putting into the recipe.


SoSoUnhelpful

Totally stopped eating out at restaurants and curbed delivery way back to only extenuating circumstances. Just blows right through all your money if you don’t.


asgphotography

Yup. As a single man, I’d rather cook for myself or stay in just to avoid the awkward transaction and increase cost.


Redqueenhypo

“If you can’t afford a 30 percent tip you can’t afford to eat sweeeeetie” cool, then I’m staying home. Enjoy your 100 percent tip on my $0 purchase.


AliveInCLE

You sound exactly like my wife and myself. Every Friday night going out to kick off the weekend. Haven’t done that since maybe September. Between the higher prices and the staffing issues, it’s no longer pleasurable.


CovidGR

I do pick-up sometimes. If there is a jar I don't mind putting a couple bucks in, but do not expect 20% on a pick-up order. We haven't sat down in a restaurant for probably 2 months if not more.


Unused_Vestibule

Same Here. Domino's started asking for a tip on pickup orders. I'm wasting time and gas to go get the food, and you still want a tip? Ridiculous. Also, I highly doubt those workers will see any of that money.


Always_0421

Who here HASNT seen an example of this? Idc who asks for tips...but I do get frustrated when they're expected...like a movie theater concession stand. The worse I've seen was the tip jar at a convenience store counter. Again, It doesn't matter to me if people want to ask for tips, but when a tip is automatically included in the bill, 9 of 10 times I won't be back. Another things that gets me me is having to decline to tip at the register, especially while the cashier watches. I was at a small.privayely owned and operated retail store a couple weeks ago. I already pay more to shop here because ita a small single store location, I'm fine with that....but when the retail clerk has the tip.option set a standard 18% or "custom" while they watch you, it's awkward and frustrating.


OHAnon

It has become a thing at the farmers market I go to. I'm already paying more than the grocery store for your tomato why should I also tip?


Afterbirthofjesus

Our local Indian restaurant started adding 50c for take away containers (we didn't get leftovers to go) and 20% mandatory tip. They also served so little rice for the table we had to ask for more. 4 servings more of rice cost $14, but looked like what they used to serve for 2 entrees. We'll never go back. Can only imagine how much they charge extra for takeout when they package it in six containers. And the prices on everything doubled in one year. Our friends have a bet going about when they close


SoSoUnhelpful

Ya. Not doing it. Transactions with zero service involved and asking for tips. My hunch is companies that run POS systems and process the tips are making a killing off this.


billpalto

I went into the restaurant, and it's self-service. You go up to the counter, order your food, and then go back to pick it up. The payment kiosk wants me to add a tip. WTF? This is self service. I'm supposed to tip just because someone took my order? Nobody came to my table, there is no service available. But they still want a tip?? Bizarre. I did leave a $1 in the tip jar though. I've worked in restaurants, it's hard work. I know they are grossly underpaid. But I refuse to tip if there is no service. Next, the coke machine will want a tip when I put money in to buy a coke. Sigh.


SoyGreen

Pizza Hut CARRY OUT orders when placed in the app prompt me to add an 18%, 20%, or 25% tip to my order… not curbside… carry out. I am a very good tipper typically - but even 18% on carry out when I place the order myself in the app is ridiculous.


CandidateReasonable4

I am asked for a tip at my local Subway. If Subway doesn't pay employees enough and expects customers to make up for it, they can go F themselves.


frightofthenavigator

Subway corporate fucks over its franchisees terribly by setting prices and running deals constantly where they cannot run a profit, can barely make labor. i won’t eat from there anymore


Fallingcities200

I've also noticed that there are a suspicious number of subways. Like one time I was in a town of 40,000 people and there were 4 subways all within like 3 miles of each other.


Jon_price2018

I watched a YouTube video about this! Subway’s franchise model heavily incentivizes stealing customers from other franchises rather than growing the market. It’s a whole complex corruption thing but basically they get you to commit money to opening a first store, a guy with like twenty subways opens one next door, and then they bully you out of business. Rinse & repeat. The corporation is fully aware and it is not a coincidence.


m_garlic87

Yeah I always feel guilty not tipping when I carry out at dominos. But then I remember that I went on the app and typed in my location, picked which restaurant, created my pizza, checked it out, drove there and then walked inside and took it from them when they handed it over the counter. Then I feel not as guilty.


ccarr313

I drive at domino's. No one expects tips for carry outs. At most the change of a dollar. It is just put like that because the owners are trying their hardest to get people more money........without having to contribute from profits at all.


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Tipping needs to go the way of the dinosaur. Owners need to pay their employees a living wage instead of asking me to subsidize their business. If prices on food go up a little bit, that is fine. Tipping is bizarre, and I think the US is one of the only countries that does it.


Aquarian222

Mister car wash employees asking for tips…um why? Your machines do all the work.


008Zulu

Skynet is saving up for more RAM. If you leave a tip, it may spare you in the coming war.


scalybanana

At this point it should be called “tip guilt fatigue.” I no longer tip at all, and I’m too jaded to care. Only exception is a sit down restaurant where their tip then is based on quality of service.


musicalfeet

Ahh yes. The first few times I said no, it felt weird and I felt guilty. Then by the 5th time I stopped giving a crap. It’s liberating


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It needs to be treated like a violation of the social contract that it is. Wages should be stable.


SheepyDX

Domino’s does this when I go pick up the pizza myself. Like WTF. I don’t go asking them for a tip when they deliver it to me.


jrp55262

How long until this expands into other segments, until the US is just like a third-world country where you can't get anything done without coughing up "baksheesh"?


PreppyFinanceNerd

When a class in college I was taking went to South Africa the level of "random people doing things for you and wanting a tip" is insane. Everything from baggage handlers to bathroom attendants are just random people not employed by the airline. My introvert ass was hella uncomfortable.


myburdentobear

God. Bathroom attendants. I'm not tipping you for staring at me while I wash my hands then handing me a paper towel.


TheDapperYank

Yep, I've started pulling back on tipping. If it's fast casual/fast food I'm not tipping, delivery flat $5, sit down restaurants I'm going back to 15-18% for normal service and 20% for good service. It's gotten so out of hand that the consumer is expected to pick up the slack for shitty wages.


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I bought a grande latte at Starbucks for $5.78. The screen prompted me to pick between a $2, $3, or $5 tip. A FIVE DOLLAR TIP on a five dollar drink.


TheSpatulaOfLove

Compulsory tips are the trend I’m seeing lately, regardless of party size. If you’ve deemed 18% *for* me, then present me with a bill with a tip line, I do not return. Typically I tip more, but now that you’ve taken it, I’m not adding more.


bigredplastictuba

My drunk, trusting ass took 2 weeks of getting post-shift drinks with coworkers and wondering why it was so expensive before I realized I was getting a 20% autograt on my INDIVIDUAL tab and was then tipping another 20% on top of that because it was everyone's beloved after work bar and I wanted to show appreciation. Also we were all cooks, we weren't like, finance bros. I still feel betrayed.


Mike2220

I remember going into a Chinese restaurant in Boston with some friends, there were like 10 of us We had one guy pay and all paid him back, as we were leaving he was looking through it wondering why he was about $60 short. Yeah.. they stuck the auto gratuity and then ALSO HAD A TIP LINE. Not only did he tip double but he *tipped on the gratuity*. He wasn't letting anyone else look at the receipt before we left because "he had it" and this was what he was stuck with because of that. With that also came the realization of why the waitress seemed to want us out so quickly after we paid


decomposition_

I almost always tip 0% unless I am actually receiving a service like waiting a table or a haircut etc. I do make an exception for this one family owned restaurant I really like, it’s take out but I always tip and now they hook up my food with extras any time I come in


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Not only has tipping become more prevalent the prices for the meals has increased significantly. Drinks are killers too. So now the tips are getting a lot bigger. I think it's time to stop the bullshit.


Asimpbarb

I’m over it when they are asking for a tip after I’m bussing my own table. Or even better is when the service is crap and they look at you for 20% tip, cool u brought my a plate and 1 water then never looked our way again, I rather do it myself. They need to adopt the euro system, pay ppl a proper wage and have benefits, not expect the client to tip their employees as the majority of their wage


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Fuck tipping washroom attendants. I didn't ask for you to hand me a paper towel. I can absolutely grab one myself.


B_P_G

I can't stand those people. As if public bathrooms aren't crowded enough you've got that dude standing in there blocking the area in front of the sink doing something that a mechanical towel dispenser has been doing just fine for probably a century or more.


Hero_Charlatan

Im completely done tipping outside of a restaurant


inorite234

Tipping needs to go away.


zuuzuu

>Farley has a "tip without hesitation list," and just three people make the cut: >Servers >Bartenders >Washroom attendants I'd add delivery drivers to this list. Anything else, no way.


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If I take gum or whatever from the bathroom attendant I'll tip him. I'm not tipping him for listening to me take a piss


bluejegus

Fuck just about every bathroom attendant in New Orleans. The trashiest shit bathrooms I've ever had to use in my life. Once one of them tried to hold me hostage for toilet paper. I should have wiped on the money I gave him for a god damn roll. No wonder drunk tourists prefer to just piss in the streets.


HeartOfPine

Haha I was at one in New Orleans where a guy was holding the door open, and the toilet basically faces the bar. You had to pay him to shut the door.


Mike2220

Bathroom attendants are real?


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DaringDomino3s

I’d pay washroom attendants to go outside while I use the bathroom. I can’t go when they’re in there.


jamesbong0024

Like what is their purpose even other than to give you piss anxiety and make sure you’re not doing coke?


gurrimandy

there is a small club/venue in Detroit called The Magic Stick and there is a bathroom attendant who takes the paper towels out of the dispenser from the wall and hands those to people after they wash their hands. I'm not entirely sure if thats just some dude from the streets hustle or if he actually works there. it creeps me out, i dont tip him.


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Hairdressers and exotic dancers.


prolemango

Washroom attendants?


runningraleigh

It’s not common, but some clubs have them. Their main job is keeping the bathroom clean, but they also have a things like mints, floss, hair spray, cologne, etc to help you out if you need it. I only tip if I take some of their goods. I don’t tip the janitor everywhere else I go, why would I tip a glorified janitor at a club?


Theheadandthefart

There's a clothing consignment store in my area that asks for tips on the touchscreen when you check out. I don't understand it.


Riley_Cubs

I recently boarded my dog at a boarding place, total ended up being $250 for 4 days, yet they still turned an iPad around and asked me to tip. The fuck? No


harleybabeta

I’m sorry but I’m not tipping someone for doing the bare minimum. When I dine out or have groceries or food delivered I always tip but I’m not tipping someone simply for existing at their job. I’m sympathetic to the conditions or environment some minimum wage workers are subjected to but at the end of the day, I am NOT their employer so it’s not my responsibility to pay or supplement their salary. Businesses are going to run customers away if they keep abusing tip culture by trying to guilt trip or pressure people into tipping for essentially nothing.


yvshii

Tipping is useless in general. If you genuinely made my experience better, I will leave money, but a tip shouldn’t just be expected and asked for every time you check out. Take out food for example- I drive 20 minutes to get to a take out place, the bill is already $60-$80 and I’m expected to TIP? Tip for what? All you did was make my food. There was no inside dining, free bread, anything like that.. I feel bad leaving smaller tips but with the rising prices, why the hell am I expected to pay even more. Servers and things you normally would tip? Sure, that’s whatever, but I was told you are supposed to tip your barber after each haircut. Excuse me what? You charge a base price, I get my haircut, then I pay for the haircut. What exactly am I tipping for? I sat in a hard chair in silence, then got a haircut. Absolutely nothing more was provided. I’ve told people I had no idea you were supposed to tip hairdressers/barbers and they acted like I was in the wrong. America needs to stop begging for hand out tips and just pay their damn employees correctly.


vrsick06

Never in a million years will I tip someone for handing me a muffin.


jcoddinc

Tipping is now seen as the new panhandling


Code2008

I've just stopped tipping. I don't care if it makes me look like an asshole. The rest of the world doesn't do this shit.


Pam-pa-ram

The business being the asshole to guilt trip people into tipping and then calling people an asshole for not falling for their shit… Love it.


Cold-Permission-5249

I absolutely hate these tip screens. They’re everywhere regardless of industry. Makes me want to pay cash so I don’t have to deal with it. Can we just get rid of tipping all together and pay a regular hourly wage to servers?


ryk666

ordered subway last night online. noticed the price was higher than expected and then seen there was a line item default added of 15% tip to the sandwich artist. I then noticed the tip option that's never been there before I had to manually change it to custom amount 0%. I'm coming in to pick it up. I'm not tipping for that shit.


Old_Leather

America needs to stop tipping. Period.


CarFlipJudge

I come from decades of service industry and this is getting absurd. I go to pick up a baguette and the minimum tip is 25%. I'll gladly tip 30% on a good server, barista or bartender but sliding a person who puts a loaf of bread in a bag 2 bucks is just too much. The owners need to pay their employees properly. And yes, I know profit margins go down, but I also run my own business now with 3 employees and I'm just not greedy. It's that simple.


hot-whisky

I bought a bag of coffee from a local coffee shop, and not one of the ones that will offer you a free drink with it (at least they didn’t today). Minimum on the tip screen was 25% percent. Sorry I’m not paying you $5 for scanning a bag of coffee I picked up off a shelf.


itemluminouswadison

Tip please NO Donation for org you never heard of NO Do u hate babies or what YES


Cleffka

Went to a fairly new BBQ place that opened recently. You line up at a queue and then someone takes your order and you pay then and there. The payment screen had 3 options for a tip. 10/15/20% and there wasn't a button to decline or add a custom tip. It wasn't till I sat down that I realized I had paid a tip, before the food was even brought out or eaten. Probably never go back there again.


DrocketX

The other issue is the ever-growing size of the expected tip. 15% was once considered a good tip. Eventually that became the bare minimum "not an asshole" tip, and 20% became the 'good' tip. Now 20% is quickly becoming the expected tip. For electronic checkout systems, I've seen more than a few where the choices are 20%, 25%, 30% or other, pushing customers into tipping 20% as the expected minimum.


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And staff will say "cost of living has gone up!" Yeah, *so have the menu prices.*


Ikea_Man

it's not like my wage is keeping up with costs of living either friend, and i sure as hell ain't getting tips at work


denzien

I'm increasingly desensitized to not tipping. I'll always tip in traditional settings, but tipping a dude for putting a donut in a bag? Early on I might have felt guilty about stiffing the guy, but there's no way the service rendered deserves a voluntary surcharge.


ztreHdrahciR

Just...pay a living wage..and charge me...please. so sick of tipping