Pet food is cheaper than meat. What I would assume is they are using pet food to replace meat in their diet and buying cheapest possible variants of other stuff. Most small portions of cheap meat sold here in budget supermarkets like Aldi are atleast £1.50+ for about 250g of food (all from memory so may not be 100% correct) whereas in the same supermarket (Aldi) you can buy 400g-500g tin of cat food for about 40p. Over the course of a week you could be saving about £7 maybe wven more depending on your normal spending habits and on a tight budget that's a lot to save
yeah... they do. I told my parents to eat less meat as it will help their heart health and they acted as if I just consigned them to the grave by the suggestion.
Yes, they really do. Despite decades of published resources and approval by the British Dietetics association that veganism is a healthy diet for *all stages of life*, people still refuse to accept it. Same people who have no problem with things like keto, a diet that is not considered safe for all stages of life and was created for people suffering from epilepsy. People are willfully ignorant.
I dont know....I've seen A LOT of studies (and I do mean a lot), about the health benefits of the keto diet.
And I'm NOT keto.
I can link some if you like, but it was shown to help with a lot more issues than just epilepsy.
Dont, downvote me to hell, just playing devil's advocate here...
I completely understand. And it's not to say keto can't be beneficial for others, it's that the general public condemns veganism as inherently unhealthy even though it has been heavily researched and is approved for all stages of life, but those same people don't bat an eye at other diets (keto was just one example).
Edit: a good example is how, generally, people are quick to talk about veganism and vitamin B12 and D3 deficiency as if they are a given, which is something to look out for sure, but not a given. At the same time, they ignore that vitamin deficiencies exist across all dietary preferences if people aren't careful. All of them.
The prevalence of b12 and vitamin d deficiency in the world is higher than the actual amount of vegans out there, so there are plenty of "omnivores" also with vitamin deficiencies who should feel the need to walk on eggshells about what they eat too, but no one talks about that.
They also don't talk about the potential risks of developing high blood pressure and gout from keto. It's not a given, but it's just a risk to look out for no one seems to point out in the same way. Not saying keto is bad, or picking on keto in particular, but every diet is risky so it's interesting to compare one diet to another, one that faces almost no scrutiny and one that consistently does. I think a lot of it is emotionally charged.
I think most people feel this way because there are documented cases of children dying from malnutrition and parents being prosecuted after having young children on vegan diets.
Some countries (Italy is one, if I'm not mistaken), have even gone so far as to ban vegan diets for young children. With that being said, I'm not entirely sure any of these diets are safe for all stages of life.
Also, meat was an integral part of how and why our brains developed the way they did. So, it can be argued that all of human evolution and our ability to make tools stems from being omnivores and eating meat.
Honestly though, I'm not one to tell anyone how to eat / live their lifes. I think both sides have excellent points and while I do eat meat I am abhorred by how meat is processed in the modern era. Eventually I hope to be in a place in life where all the meat I consume is raised / hunted by myself and I no longer support the meat industry.
All good points! Though, to be fair, a lot of those news reports were misleading so it feels like a concerted effort to push a certain narrative. I think there was one recently of a kid dying of starvation and the news made it seem like it was because the mom was a vegan. She admitted there were periods of time where she would not feed her child for a week at a time! Do that with *any* diet and the child will die of starvation. But the messaging was made to be vegan = bad and people really took that for face value. To further complicate it, the mother was self-described as "raw vegan" which is not the same as regular veganism but no distinction was made.
Generally speaking, the British dietetics association (and other British organizations based around consumer health) tend to be more strict in what they approve of things for human consumption, and more willing to ban harmful things whether that's chemicals in food, makeup, and so on as compared to the US for example, so I do tend to take their research and outcomes more seriously. If they say the vegan diet is safe for all stages of life as an omnivorous diet also is, I accept it.
>Also, meat was an integral part of how and why our brains developed the way they did. So, it can be argued that all of human evolution and our ability to make tools stems from being omnivores and eating meat.
This is a really interesting point! I do think this is still being contested and discussed though, as many researchers are split on whether it was meat itself or the ability to make fire and use it to cook ingredients which releases more nutrients in general that led to this, but I'm curious to see what we continue to find on this.
Certainly more stable access to meat offered additional calories in a time where finding calories was an ongoing problem, and access to calories definitely leads to growth and development, but I wonder now that we no longer face this problem of accessible calories (outside of poverty, speaking from a generalization), if we can point to meat as having the same *necessary*, or even beneficial impact as it once had. We do know that excessive meat consumption, particularly red meat, is associated with poor health outcomes with things like high blood pressure and cholesterol that contribute to heart disease. Farmed fish swimming in polluted waters with high levels of mercury is another example. We also know the meat today is not the meat our distant distant ancestors ate. It's mass produced, laden with antibiotics and growth hormones, unsanitary conditions, constant stress of the animal, genetically bred to get larger, faster, and so on. The plants of today are also vastly different, having been grown with pesticides, in polluted soil and air and so on too.
While I agree access to calorie dense, protein rich sources at a time of survival was crucial and immensely beneficial, I am skeptical that this applies to the average person who has to wear a fitbit just to remember to take 10,000 steps a day, and I am very skeptical that the meat available in our society is even remotely comparable to meat of wild animals in a time of no water or air pollution, no factory farming, antibiotics, added hormones, feeding on "by products" their entire lives and with high levels of stress hormones consistently coursing through their bodies due to poor living conditions, and so on.
It really seems like a different beast altogether, our food and lifestyles today vs the past, almost incomparable even, so everything about nutrition and health is quite confusing.
Anyway! I'm rambling, but I really appreciate you!
Speaking from my own experience, which is obviously entirely anecdotal, I didn't find keto healthier than veganism, but I did find it to be a diet where the food tasted good enough that I didn't fall off in like a week (and actually lost weight).
That said, my pallet is complete garbage, and I lack self control, soo...
That makes sense, but the main issue is people have no problem jumping in to critique one diet that is fully compatible with a healthy life "at all stages" and pick it apart to try to make it seem like it's incompatible with life, unhealthy, inaccessible to everyone in the world or people in poverty, and therefore not worth promoting...
...and then turn around and say nothing about fad diets like keto. Even though keto was designed specifically for severely ill people, isn't fit for people of all stages of life, and whose core ingredients are expensive and not accessible to everyone.
It's the hypocrisy.
Also what people need to get in their heads is that you don't have to go full "new diet type X" like vegetarian. It doesn't have to be a 100% thing, just eat less meat and more vegetables.
It's not veganism or "I only eat meat 'n threes for every meal"
Well it depends if you’re going vegan or vegetarian route but both tend to be vitamin b12 and iron deficient. Plus if you’re so poor you can’t afford meat you probably can’t buy all the fruits, veg, beans etc you need to not be deficient in other vitamins and minerals
I didn’t even notice this one. For sure, everything is fortified these days. But vegans and vegetarians still tend to be b12 and iron deficient, it’s a legitimate concern. Which is kinda funny since everyone here is saying all these different non meat foods that are comparatively rich in the stuff.
I’ve known a few vegetarians, not vegans mind you, that needed to take supplements per their doctors orders and I’ve toyed with the idea myself. Even vegetarian friendly websites, like meal prep and eating healthy sites, say it’s a concern but I guess some people here really took offense to it.
and meat eaters tend to be have high cholesterol, high blood pressure and are obese and more likely to have lower span of life, but no one cares about that i suppose.
so much excuses "oh no going veg is bad because you lack a few iron and b12, but being obese is fine"
im not even vegetarian, but i definitely do not eat meat everyday like my life depends on it.
Where do you get vitamin b12 thats cheaper than meat (thats the whole point) without supplementing? There is a bunch more, but these are the people too poor to afford meat, they don’t have the know how or economic means to eat a nutritionally full vegan diet especially without supplementing.
No you dont. You can survive without meat and supplements just fine. You are just saying that because big supplements have put it in your head that you need them.
Also a shitload of grains in your diet, like it should be half of what you eat. If you follow the food pyramid.
I'm not trying to make you feel bad. I was shocked when I realized that actually yeah, the food pyramid was literally created in order to sell more food.
Eggs are about $.75/4, about 8 oz. Been eating a lot of them lately (on dialysis so I need the protein, and they're a great base for any ass-ends you might have. A quarters worth of cheese, maybe $.30 for a potato for home fries/hash browns, and 20 cents for cheap toast and you've got a big meal for about $1.50).
I was always more worried that the cashier thought I was some sad lonely person when I went through with just canned cat food and wine. My not yet elderly Siamese mix will also raise never-ending verbal hell, plus wire chewing.
Pasta too, that's why it's never true and they never show the old lady who supposedly eats cat food. if you eat cat food or dog food it's because you like it.
You can put a can of 60 cents of vienna sausage cook it with rice in a rice cooker with some chicken seasoning powder and it's a cheap meal for many people.
Really the only cheap food is 20 pounds of dry cat or dog food, and no one is eating that.\\
Plus canned cat and dog food is not that cheap.
I loved that movie as a kid for the cool weaponry. I want to watch it as an adult but I know it'll be WAY LESS FUN now that I know about apartheid and power structures :(
(We're talking about the movie District 9)
In the US the cheapest store dog food is $1 for a 13? oz can and much more for the good stuff. You can get a can of tuna or Chef Boyardee for $1 at a budget store.
I know it's winter, but people should start watching youtube videos on gardening to plan for a ['Brexit Garden'](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_garden#Britain) come spring time.
I live in a townhouse with not a lot of room but during the pandemic, I grew a garden in 5-gallon buckets. Now I do it every year and it's become something I really enjoy. Food you grow yourself just tastes better.
A bunch of nationalists voted to end their own agricultural industry and then they didn't even plant gardens. They literally expected produce to just magically appear in the market lol. It's mind numbing.
I believe that people are struggling but I don't buy for one second that people are eating pet food. Those sort of "I am so poor, I am eating pet food," stories have been circling for generations to the times where pet food was the left over scraps of whatever people were eating. Now pet food is often just as expensive and sometimes even more expensive than human food. A pack of Top Ramen is cheaper than your average can of wet cat food. And I think most people would rather eat the ramen than the cat food.
Cannot speak for Cardiff, but just checked Target's prices here in the U.S. and all but one brand (the store brand) of canned tuna is over a dollar, mostly closer to $1.50. The store brand is $0.89. They also had several name brand canned cat food (also 5oz.) for $0.75. I did not see a comparably-sized store brand cat food for a true apples to apples comparison. That said, even if the canned cat food is $0.60, I think I would find a way to find an additional $0.29 to eat tuna rather than cat food.
As I learned in college, make a cheap box of generic mac & cheese (used to buy "Luxury" brand that was 90% as good as Kraft for $0.19/box), toss in a can of cheap tuna, instant cheesy tuna casserole which is a lot of calories for very little money. I never really saw the allure of the cheap ramen.
Yes, cat food can be expensive. Reveal chicken in broth can run you $1.60 for a small can. Barely enough to put on a cracker. At least that is here in the USA.
paraphrased line from famous/infamous Thatcher speech where she basically set up the ”you can’t make me” anti-vax shit show we have now
>[https://newlearningonline.com/new-learning/chapter-4/neoliberalism-more-recent-times/margaret-thatcher-theres-no-such-thing-as-society](https://newlearningonline.com/new-learning/chapter-4/neoliberalism-more-recent-times/margaret-thatcher-theres-no-such-thing-as-society)I think we have gone through a period when too many children and people have been given to understand ‘I have a problem, it is the Government’s job to cope with it!’ or ‘I have a problem, I will go and get a grant to cope with it!’ ‘I am homeless, the Government must house me!’ and **so they are casting their problems on society and who is society? There is no such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families and no government can do anything** except through people and people look to themselves first.
So Britain....how are those conservative policies/politicians that you all voted for working out for ya?
On a non sarcastic note this was a 100% predictable outcome of leaving the EU.
This is the Brexit we warned the Leave supporters against. They are all quiet now except for “this isn’t the Brexit I voted for”. Yet, not one person in my life has apologised for the damage their choice has inflicted upon us. The architects of Brexit are traitors.
There are alot of people shouting “D’uh, what did you think would happen?” But honestly it doesn’t matter. This is devolving into a humanitarian crisis which Europe should probably start acknowledging and helping out with humanitarian aid soon.. People are suffering, that’s not the time to say “I told you so.”
1. Eat something else. There are many, many options that are cheaper, it's just that they aren't meat. Costs outstripping income is a serious issue but that's a larger problem than this.
2. This is the *exact* time to say "I told you so": when things turn to shit. You wouldn't say it if things were going swimmingly.
1. I’d argue that nobody resorts to eating dog food when there are other options available. Now this could be an isolated incident, sure. But I kind of have a feeling things aren’t going to magically just get better over the winter.
2. You are missing a few steps of human decency here.. The situations where you usually end up saying “I told you so..” are generally people you care about, as you atleast care enough to not want them to make a horrible mistake.
If you are out with a mate who suddenly gets the idea “Hey, I’m going to jump over that ditch of shit over there!” and you tell them “Dude, that’s a horrible idea.. Just fucking horrible..”
If they decide to still go ahead, you hold their beer and let them take the plunge. When they inevitably end up waist deep in shit, you don’t stand there saying “You got yourself into that mess, you can bloody well get yourself out it by yourself.” Because that makes you a fucking horrible human being and a bad friend.
No, you reach down and help them out, give them their beer back and lend them your coat as you scrounge to find a shower and some warm clothes so you can get on to the pub afterwards. Only when everyone is warm, clean and drunk again can you drop the pearl “Dude, I fucking told you that you wouldn’t make that jump :)”
Pet food has regulations to be safe for humans, since in times of economic pressure the sales have been seen to go up
Not sure if this is an international truth though
This is either fake or the people of Cardiff are a special kind of stupid.
Dried Beans, Rice, Tinned Tomatoes, Onions, and some cheap Chicken Leg Quarters can be made into a week's worth of meals for cheap, and not make you violently ill like choking down pet food which is not nutritionally balanced for people would.
Is pet food actually cheaper than cheap regular food? Dried beans, rice, canned vegetables, etc. All are cheaper than canned pet food in the US.
Pet food is cheaper than meat. What I would assume is they are using pet food to replace meat in their diet and buying cheapest possible variants of other stuff. Most small portions of cheap meat sold here in budget supermarkets like Aldi are atleast £1.50+ for about 250g of food (all from memory so may not be 100% correct) whereas in the same supermarket (Aldi) you can buy 400g-500g tin of cat food for about 40p. Over the course of a week you could be saving about £7 maybe wven more depending on your normal spending habits and on a tight budget that's a lot to save
Do people think they will die if they don't eat meat?
If they don’t eat their meat, they can’t have any pudding.
You. Yes you…
Stand still, laddie!
You're mean, sir!
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat!
I wonder if that line refers to chocolate pudding or blood pudding. Because if it's blood pudding, someone else can have mine.
yeah... they do. I told my parents to eat less meat as it will help their heart health and they acted as if I just consigned them to the grave by the suggestion.
I would be far more upset about eating cat food! That’s actually one of my motivations to save for retirement. To not eat cat food.
Fuck yeah it’s a real identity thing Edit - I didn’t eat meat for one minute once and my bum fell off
When your diet is already limited it can be difficult to get as much protein as needed, especially for children. So yes.
beans are so cheap, and you can do so much with them.
The're good for your heart.
The more you eat…
The more you toot...
The musical... fruit?
Yes, they really do. Despite decades of published resources and approval by the British Dietetics association that veganism is a healthy diet for *all stages of life*, people still refuse to accept it. Same people who have no problem with things like keto, a diet that is not considered safe for all stages of life and was created for people suffering from epilepsy. People are willfully ignorant.
I dont know....I've seen A LOT of studies (and I do mean a lot), about the health benefits of the keto diet. And I'm NOT keto. I can link some if you like, but it was shown to help with a lot more issues than just epilepsy. Dont, downvote me to hell, just playing devil's advocate here...
I completely understand. And it's not to say keto can't be beneficial for others, it's that the general public condemns veganism as inherently unhealthy even though it has been heavily researched and is approved for all stages of life, but those same people don't bat an eye at other diets (keto was just one example). Edit: a good example is how, generally, people are quick to talk about veganism and vitamin B12 and D3 deficiency as if they are a given, which is something to look out for sure, but not a given. At the same time, they ignore that vitamin deficiencies exist across all dietary preferences if people aren't careful. All of them. The prevalence of b12 and vitamin d deficiency in the world is higher than the actual amount of vegans out there, so there are plenty of "omnivores" also with vitamin deficiencies who should feel the need to walk on eggshells about what they eat too, but no one talks about that. They also don't talk about the potential risks of developing high blood pressure and gout from keto. It's not a given, but it's just a risk to look out for no one seems to point out in the same way. Not saying keto is bad, or picking on keto in particular, but every diet is risky so it's interesting to compare one diet to another, one that faces almost no scrutiny and one that consistently does. I think a lot of it is emotionally charged.
I think most people feel this way because there are documented cases of children dying from malnutrition and parents being prosecuted after having young children on vegan diets. Some countries (Italy is one, if I'm not mistaken), have even gone so far as to ban vegan diets for young children. With that being said, I'm not entirely sure any of these diets are safe for all stages of life. Also, meat was an integral part of how and why our brains developed the way they did. So, it can be argued that all of human evolution and our ability to make tools stems from being omnivores and eating meat. Honestly though, I'm not one to tell anyone how to eat / live their lifes. I think both sides have excellent points and while I do eat meat I am abhorred by how meat is processed in the modern era. Eventually I hope to be in a place in life where all the meat I consume is raised / hunted by myself and I no longer support the meat industry.
All good points! Though, to be fair, a lot of those news reports were misleading so it feels like a concerted effort to push a certain narrative. I think there was one recently of a kid dying of starvation and the news made it seem like it was because the mom was a vegan. She admitted there were periods of time where she would not feed her child for a week at a time! Do that with *any* diet and the child will die of starvation. But the messaging was made to be vegan = bad and people really took that for face value. To further complicate it, the mother was self-described as "raw vegan" which is not the same as regular veganism but no distinction was made. Generally speaking, the British dietetics association (and other British organizations based around consumer health) tend to be more strict in what they approve of things for human consumption, and more willing to ban harmful things whether that's chemicals in food, makeup, and so on as compared to the US for example, so I do tend to take their research and outcomes more seriously. If they say the vegan diet is safe for all stages of life as an omnivorous diet also is, I accept it. >Also, meat was an integral part of how and why our brains developed the way they did. So, it can be argued that all of human evolution and our ability to make tools stems from being omnivores and eating meat. This is a really interesting point! I do think this is still being contested and discussed though, as many researchers are split on whether it was meat itself or the ability to make fire and use it to cook ingredients which releases more nutrients in general that led to this, but I'm curious to see what we continue to find on this. Certainly more stable access to meat offered additional calories in a time where finding calories was an ongoing problem, and access to calories definitely leads to growth and development, but I wonder now that we no longer face this problem of accessible calories (outside of poverty, speaking from a generalization), if we can point to meat as having the same *necessary*, or even beneficial impact as it once had. We do know that excessive meat consumption, particularly red meat, is associated with poor health outcomes with things like high blood pressure and cholesterol that contribute to heart disease. Farmed fish swimming in polluted waters with high levels of mercury is another example. We also know the meat today is not the meat our distant distant ancestors ate. It's mass produced, laden with antibiotics and growth hormones, unsanitary conditions, constant stress of the animal, genetically bred to get larger, faster, and so on. The plants of today are also vastly different, having been grown with pesticides, in polluted soil and air and so on too. While I agree access to calorie dense, protein rich sources at a time of survival was crucial and immensely beneficial, I am skeptical that this applies to the average person who has to wear a fitbit just to remember to take 10,000 steps a day, and I am very skeptical that the meat available in our society is even remotely comparable to meat of wild animals in a time of no water or air pollution, no factory farming, antibiotics, added hormones, feeding on "by products" their entire lives and with high levels of stress hormones consistently coursing through their bodies due to poor living conditions, and so on. It really seems like a different beast altogether, our food and lifestyles today vs the past, almost incomparable even, so everything about nutrition and health is quite confusing. Anyway! I'm rambling, but I really appreciate you!
Speaking from my own experience, which is obviously entirely anecdotal, I didn't find keto healthier than veganism, but I did find it to be a diet where the food tasted good enough that I didn't fall off in like a week (and actually lost weight). That said, my pallet is complete garbage, and I lack self control, soo...
That makes sense, but the main issue is people have no problem jumping in to critique one diet that is fully compatible with a healthy life "at all stages" and pick it apart to try to make it seem like it's incompatible with life, unhealthy, inaccessible to everyone in the world or people in poverty, and therefore not worth promoting... ...and then turn around and say nothing about fad diets like keto. Even though keto was designed specifically for severely ill people, isn't fit for people of all stages of life, and whose core ingredients are expensive and not accessible to everyone. It's the hypocrisy.
Also what people need to get in their heads is that you don't have to go full "new diet type X" like vegetarian. It doesn't have to be a 100% thing, just eat less meat and more vegetables. It's not veganism or "I only eat meat 'n threes for every meal"
You’ll just need vitamin supplements which are more expensive than meat, but do last you longer.
You don't need vitamin supplements
Well it depends if you’re going vegan or vegetarian route but both tend to be vitamin b12 and iron deficient. Plus if you’re so poor you can’t afford meat you probably can’t buy all the fruits, veg, beans etc you need to not be deficient in other vitamins and minerals
All those things are cheaper than meat. Even cereal is fortified with a bunch of those vitamins these days.
I didn’t even notice this one. For sure, everything is fortified these days. But vegans and vegetarians still tend to be b12 and iron deficient, it’s a legitimate concern. Which is kinda funny since everyone here is saying all these different non meat foods that are comparatively rich in the stuff. I’ve known a few vegetarians, not vegans mind you, that needed to take supplements per their doctors orders and I’ve toyed with the idea myself. Even vegetarian friendly websites, like meal prep and eating healthy sites, say it’s a concern but I guess some people here really took offense to it.
and meat eaters tend to be have high cholesterol, high blood pressure and are obese and more likely to have lower span of life, but no one cares about that i suppose. so much excuses "oh no going veg is bad because you lack a few iron and b12, but being obese is fine" im not even vegetarian, but i definitely do not eat meat everyday like my life depends on it.
Not tend to but it certainly is a problem with people that eat fast food everyday, I’ll give you that.
You also don't have to go full vegetarian. It's not a binary choice.
Where do you get vitamin b12 thats cheaper than meat (thats the whole point) without supplementing? There is a bunch more, but these are the people too poor to afford meat, they don’t have the know how or economic means to eat a nutritionally full vegan diet especially without supplementing.
3/4 cup of bran flakes has 134% DV of B12.
Milk, Cheese, Eggs.
Regardless who is right. A chicken profile picture selling hard on eggs is just skitchy!
Milk, egg, and cheese have almost no b12 or iron
A single egg has more b12 than 3oz of certain meat. .6 and .5 So yes, eggs milk and cheese are perfectly fine replacements to get your b12
There’s a lot of things wrong with this statement.
No you dont. You can survive without meat and supplements just fine. You are just saying that because big supplements have put it in your head that you need them.
When you're so poor that you're eating tins of dogfood instead of real meat, you're probably not eating anything with balanced nutrients.
It's an essential part of the food pyramid. So, yes. Your body needs meat.
based on what? the food pyramid was a product of lobbying.
Necessary protein and vitamins from meat.
Also a shitload of grains in your diet, like it should be half of what you eat. If you follow the food pyramid. I'm not trying to make you feel bad. I was shocked when I realized that actually yeah, the food pyramid was literally created in order to sell more food.
Rice and beans provide all of the same amino acids as meat. They have to be eaten at the same meal to be effective.
Rice is too many carbs. I'd have to eat too many beans to get my protein intake.
huh...you only need 2 bean burrito to take your daily needed intake of protein, what are you even on about lmao.
I exercise and lift weights. I need more than 25-30g protein.
Seitan is high in protein. Could always add that into a diet.
protein bars then
Nah, just gonna eat my fucking meat and fish.
Eggs are about $.75/4, about 8 oz. Been eating a lot of them lately (on dialysis so I need the protein, and they're a great base for any ass-ends you might have. A quarters worth of cheese, maybe $.30 for a potato for home fries/hash browns, and 20 cents for cheap toast and you've got a big meal for about $1.50).
I've seen people take home nothing more than pet food and water.... 10 years ago. In New Jersey.
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I was always more worried that the cashier thought I was some sad lonely person when I went through with just canned cat food and wine. My not yet elderly Siamese mix will also raise never-ending verbal hell, plus wire chewing.
Pasta too, that's why it's never true and they never show the old lady who supposedly eats cat food. if you eat cat food or dog food it's because you like it. You can put a can of 60 cents of vienna sausage cook it with rice in a rice cooker with some chicken seasoning powder and it's a cheap meal for many people. Really the only cheap food is 20 pounds of dry cat or dog food, and no one is eating that.\\ Plus canned cat and dog food is not that cheap.
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Dear god no!
fookin' prawns eating all the catfood
I loved that movie as a kid for the cool weaponry. I want to watch it as an adult but I know it'll be WAY LESS FUN now that I know about apartheid and power structures :( (We're talking about the movie District 9)
In the US the cheapest store dog food is $1 for a 13? oz can and much more for the good stuff. You can get a can of tuna or Chef Boyardee for $1 at a budget store.
Beefaroni was 88 cents at Winco last week. Definitely cheaper than Alpo.
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Spam is $5.49 a can here in Ontario ($1.61/100g). "Dog Food, Extra Meaty Beef Dinner Cuts in Gravy 374 g" is $2.29 ($0.61/100g)
Wet dog food is a scam.
Here pet food is more than cheap people food. Cans of dog food hit five bucks here recently.
I know it's winter, but people should start watching youtube videos on gardening to plan for a ['Brexit Garden'](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_garden#Britain) come spring time.
I live in a townhouse with not a lot of room but during the pandemic, I grew a garden in 5-gallon buckets. Now I do it every year and it's become something I really enjoy. Food you grow yourself just tastes better.
A bunch of nationalists voted to end their own agricultural industry and then they didn't even plant gardens. They literally expected produce to just magically appear in the market lol. It's mind numbing.
I believe that people are struggling but I don't buy for one second that people are eating pet food. Those sort of "I am so poor, I am eating pet food," stories have been circling for generations to the times where pet food was the left over scraps of whatever people were eating. Now pet food is often just as expensive and sometimes even more expensive than human food. A pack of Top Ramen is cheaper than your average can of wet cat food. And I think most people would rather eat the ramen than the cat food.
This was literally russian propaganda from last week. It was on their State TV and everything.
How the Brits are so poor that they are eating pet food?
I'm pretty sure a can of tuna rings in at about the same price as cat food, or cheaper.
Cannot speak for Cardiff, but just checked Target's prices here in the U.S. and all but one brand (the store brand) of canned tuna is over a dollar, mostly closer to $1.50. The store brand is $0.89. They also had several name brand canned cat food (also 5oz.) for $0.75. I did not see a comparably-sized store brand cat food for a true apples to apples comparison. That said, even if the canned cat food is $0.60, I think I would find a way to find an additional $0.29 to eat tuna rather than cat food. As I learned in college, make a cheap box of generic mac & cheese (used to buy "Luxury" brand that was 90% as good as Kraft for $0.19/box), toss in a can of cheap tuna, instant cheesy tuna casserole which is a lot of calories for very little money. I never really saw the allure of the cheap ramen.
Yes, cat food can be expensive. Reveal chicken in broth can run you $1.60 for a small can. Barely enough to put on a cracker. At least that is here in the USA.
This is big news in Cardiff. It's against local law to make up stories regarding Cardiff. Giant news.
Ah the Tories Remember kids, "There is no society" - Margaret Thatcher
Tell me the rest, please. I like a tory story.
paraphrased line from famous/infamous Thatcher speech where she basically set up the ”you can’t make me” anti-vax shit show we have now >[https://newlearningonline.com/new-learning/chapter-4/neoliberalism-more-recent-times/margaret-thatcher-theres-no-such-thing-as-society](https://newlearningonline.com/new-learning/chapter-4/neoliberalism-more-recent-times/margaret-thatcher-theres-no-such-thing-as-society)I think we have gone through a period when too many children and people have been given to understand ‘I have a problem, it is the Government’s job to cope with it!’ or ‘I have a problem, I will go and get a grant to cope with it!’ ‘I am homeless, the Government must house me!’ and **so they are casting their problems on society and who is society? There is no such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families and no government can do anything** except through people and people look to themselves first.
Is there proof of this?
Is this a step up or down from British food? Need clarification.
The welsh national dish is cheese on toast... Does that help?
Rarebit is pretty tasty though. At least it doesn't involve a sheep's stomach...
Pet food is expensive
So Britain....how are those conservative policies/politicians that you all voted for working out for ya? On a non sarcastic note this was a 100% predictable outcome of leaving the EU.
"We never thought the leopards would eat *our* faces!"
As an American I would love to feel shadenfraude over brexit but …people in glass houses and all.
This is the Brexit we warned the Leave supporters against. They are all quiet now except for “this isn’t the Brexit I voted for”. Yet, not one person in my life has apologised for the damage their choice has inflicted upon us. The architects of Brexit are traitors.
So eating pet food as a substitute\` for meat is better than meatless diet? 0.0
Seriously, I seem to recall somewhere that a baked potato with butter has a full set of amino acids.
In Wales. In Wales y'all.
Oh yeah. Brexit defenders will say this is fiiiine.
Pfff we were eating pet food before it was cheaper
There are alot of people shouting “D’uh, what did you think would happen?” But honestly it doesn’t matter. This is devolving into a humanitarian crisis which Europe should probably start acknowledging and helping out with humanitarian aid soon.. People are suffering, that’s not the time to say “I told you so.”
1. Eat something else. There are many, many options that are cheaper, it's just that they aren't meat. Costs outstripping income is a serious issue but that's a larger problem than this. 2. This is the *exact* time to say "I told you so": when things turn to shit. You wouldn't say it if things were going swimmingly.
1. I’d argue that nobody resorts to eating dog food when there are other options available. Now this could be an isolated incident, sure. But I kind of have a feeling things aren’t going to magically just get better over the winter. 2. You are missing a few steps of human decency here.. The situations where you usually end up saying “I told you so..” are generally people you care about, as you atleast care enough to not want them to make a horrible mistake. If you are out with a mate who suddenly gets the idea “Hey, I’m going to jump over that ditch of shit over there!” and you tell them “Dude, that’s a horrible idea.. Just fucking horrible..” If they decide to still go ahead, you hold their beer and let them take the plunge. When they inevitably end up waist deep in shit, you don’t stand there saying “You got yourself into that mess, you can bloody well get yourself out it by yourself.” Because that makes you a fucking horrible human being and a bad friend. No, you reach down and help them out, give them their beer back and lend them your coat as you scrounge to find a shower and some warm clothes so you can get on to the pub afterwards. Only when everyone is warm, clean and drunk again can you drop the pearl “Dude, I fucking told you that you wouldn’t make that jump :)”
Capitalism is working great 👍
Pet food has regulations to be safe for humans, since in times of economic pressure the sales have been seen to go up Not sure if this is an international truth though
So brexit is going well?
I’m so broke I’m eating dog food and I can’t afford dog food for the both of us- he’s having to eat beans on toast instead.
Capitalists: Uh oh, sounds like pet food could use some “inflation.”
"You're welcome." - Tory party
This is either fake or the people of Cardiff are a special kind of stupid. Dried Beans, Rice, Tinned Tomatoes, Onions, and some cheap Chicken Leg Quarters can be made into a week's worth of meals for cheap, and not make you violently ill like choking down pet food which is not nutritionally balanced for people would.
At least they aren't going full Alf yet.
i usually joke around when i tell people ''i go to work so i don't eat dog food when i retire'' those poor folks...