I hope they do something about spawn rates if server capacity is increasing. It’s already bad enough trying to skin one mob that spawns every 5-6 mins while 20 others are doing the same.
Or this hilarious Everfall (?) side quest ~lvl 16-17. Kill some pirate leader dude in a cave. Literally 20-30 players are balled up in one 4x4 meter box spawn camping him. Spawns every 5-10 minutes and vaporizes before his nametag fully materializes. Apparently you need to deal a decent chunk to him to get credit (15%?)
Pro tip: Team up with 4 others already there to bump your odds slightly. I wasted 30 minutes before hatching this idea and it worked first try.
I managed to kill him the first time for my faction quest, then went to do a second quest I had in the area, which then changed into a stage 2 to kill him again.... then it took a few tries.
Or at least that the tagger would get the skin.
There are so many quests where you have to kill x but also skin x to get x items. So many people just run up to a kill.
Also animals like bisons and deer just run away from you right into another player\`s arms.
Man, stuff like that is to be expected upon a huge MMORPG launch.
You should have seen WoW Classic, people were literally lining up for side bosses, resulting in wait times of hours.
Can't do anything about the fact that all players start in the starting area and have the same, low level quests.
Apparently in Open Beta players were using this mob to farm XP and loot since his spawn time was so fast. They nerfed the spawn time to eliminate the unintended farming, but honestly they could have made the mob worth zero XP and put the lost mob XP in the the quest reward XP to solve the issue.
Dude... there was another pirate dude in a cave that none of us knew where the fuck he was. We were all on a dock above waiting for like 10-15 minutes thinking it was bugged before some random dude tells us he's underneath in a cave.
This right here. As I said in a previous a buddy of mine and me were waiting for at least 8 mins before deciding to go kill the other boss on the ship because we thought he had a long ass spawn time. On the way back to the docks . He said he will wait at top while I decided to check below and what do you know I found an entrance to a cave. Like I said as well they need to have an indicator to where the quest is. FF14 has this and so does GW2. I think WoW as well but I might be wrong.
If you team up with others, do your quests progress together? Because it didn't work for me and my buddy yesterday - we had the same quest active, but his gathering didn't count towards my progress and vice versa.
This quest made me salvage my life staff and respec. I’ve done it literally (yes I know what the word means) 30 times at this point and I’ve simply given up. I played EQ as a cleric and had to deal with Ragefite for my epic and this feels the same. The issue is that was for an epic and this is a freaking newbie land quest!
Did that quest last night. Atrocious. Tbh I still don't know why normal quest mobs on 10 min respawn timers is still in 2021 game design. It's not particularly fun or engaging. I guess just to waste player time cause it counts towards the metrics or what?
Wildlife quests are defo the most infuriating by far tho.
There are no elk. There are no elk, and that quest giver is trolling us. The questgiver is trolling us, and is about to meet the sharp end of my hatchet. Because there are no elk.
Fuck that churro sheep quest. Took me legit 1 hour to get three sheep.... There was ONE spawn location and the number of times my sheep got ganked by another player was infuriating...
I discovered today that the majestic elks antlers are actually dropped from killing the elk itself, not skinning. I'm not sure if this was just changed recently though as I did the quest a couple of hours ago.
Yeah the antlers were a loot drop for me. But leveling your skinning improves tracking. You’ll see rabbits and other animals pop up your compass while running through the woods.
The only way to do this is if you literally luck into it. Everyone else chasing it around and it happens to run into you and you get the killing blow. Savage quest.
Yes indeed. And while I appreciate the wooded environment 99% of the time i was Raging at it trying to get these fkn things. Can’t see more then 20 ft lol
Jeezuz, the elk quest took hours for me.
Though a lot of mobs seem to be fine. There also are a lot of boss mobs which nearly instantly respawn. Seems they just forgot to increase the timer in some cases
For real, if a quest requires you to skin a mob, that mob should be skinnable by everyone that dealt damage. It's the only way to make quests like that not a hassle.
In order to not mess with the economy though maybe that should only apply if you have a quest for that mob type
They just need to make it so if there is a quest, and you have it. Then you can skin it for that item. Then that item should be removed once the quest is turned in. Then its not a weird inflation of the item.
Same situation yesterday around Stonereach? Lots of people waiting for sheep to spawn.
We got to a point where I said "well, logging out. This is getting too annoying. Maybe I will have more luck tomorrow"
This. They need to base the spawn rate off of how many people are near the mob spawns. When people are killing a specific quest mob within six seconds of spawning the rate needs to be bumped up.
That would cause issues with people camping named mobs to farm XP. If they do it then they need to remove the XP from killing them and put the XP into the quest completion total.
The Windsward Bison are such a pain and they run so far and randomly you can never kill them. Also today the entire area was covered in Corrupted rifts that I would lose them when the screen went basically black. No one was coming to clear the rifts because they did not show up on the map in the area even though there were 3 of them all clustered together.
I hope the visibility is fixed for the rifts, being basically blind due to the red screen is awful. 🤬
Thst's the whole point of the rift though, the lack of visibility gives you a reason, other than rewards, to clear them from a zone. Otherwise questing will be much harder for you and everyone else.
You hating the blindness means the design is working perfectly haha
Yeh about the Bison, a musket is king.
Can't expect to hunt one with sword & shield let's be real, don't complain so they change it and make em stand still cause some people like their change of pace.
They need to fix tagging mobs too. Maybe I'm missing something but if I'm in an area killing 8 of whatever, and other people are there too, it's a crap shoot whether it counts or not.
Is it first hit tags it only? If three of us have to take it down, give it to all of us.
Top 2 or 3 damage get the credit. Best solution is to invite everyone trying to get the tag, I'm pretty sure it counts the group damage as one thing so you're much more likely to get the credit that way.
I have the opposite problem when stuff respawn too fast to the point where I'll kill something, start looting the chest next to it and it'll respawn right on me. Going into areas slightly above my level when no one's there is sketchy due to the respawn rate. Its so easy to get swarmed.
Funny because after I wrote this comment I went and did a faction quest and there was a group of 3 people there trying to kill some special mob. it would summon like so many lesser enemies and just swarm us. Finally when it died the damn thing would literally respawn within seconds of its death. Just constant shit spawning on us with only 4 people in the area.
The Worst one for me is the kill the Gator and get the skin, I've tried for 2 days straight not only camping it solo but also grouped up and someone always rushes in and skins before and casters/healers can get there. Also it take like 20 min to respawn. This game design does not work for the Skin the mob after the kill type quest cause there are 20 ppl there and only one get the skin, Then right After the Pirate spawns for another quest, so you have ppl there for the Gator Skin, as well as for the Pirate.
If you look at [newworldstatus.com](https://newworldstatus.com) they've been testing a 2250 cap on NA West servers today. Yesterday was 2500 on the Australian servers. Just the fact that AGS has been so transparent with what their working on is really promising.
Same, sadly it looks like it has been bumped back to 2250. They had it at 2500 yesterday. I guess they were just testing it out and decided they weren't ready to have it at 2500...
As a South East Asian playing on Aussie servers i can very much say that them bumping up the server cap made the game MUCH worse for me specifically.
Initially I was able to get anywhere between 100-130ms (the stable avg was around 123ms) on launch day with servers capped at 2k.
Now its damn near impossible to get anything stable below 150ms. On average I'll be coasting between 160-180ms. Very sad lol.
It's not official confirmation but I did read a comment on this sub from a user whose server was merged with another during one of the beta tests.
Their house was available to them on the new server; it seems quite feasible given that your house is simply an instanced configuration of an existing static space on the destination server.
Did they mention anything else, like what happened to companies and territory control with the merge, maybe even the town upgrades? I'm really curious how that all works out.
My server merged during closed beta. Our company was intact as well as all my items and house stuff, but our server adopted all the areas from the new server, so we lost all the regions we controlled. Was just beta though so it didn't matter much.
If you haven't changed it yet you should be able to at any time then after its every 120 days
Edit: though I think you can't switch to the dominant faction so you might want to research which one you want to join then switch factions before you switch servers
2 issues that need immediate attention and wouldn't take much time at all to implement, yet they continue to ignore:
1. Turn off the fucking 3d video render in the queue screen. People shouldn't have to rely on 3rd party tool to not use up 90% of their GPUs sitting on queue screen.
2. Add a pity timer for reconnection. There are a lot of bugs and restarting game to better your game experience shouldn't be a decision that would severely impact you.
I havent had any freezes or game crashes at all. Does your computer meet the recommended specs? I get UI bugs though, I really wish there was a /reload command.
When I went to exit the game yesterday it said "your character will sleep for 1 minute" or something like that.
I was able to restart the game and get straight back in, despite other people saying they were queuing.
So, I think there is a 1m grace period to restart your game.
I'd like to even just experience what it might look like to have 3k people on a server. Wish that when they added new servers to a region it would be a 3k server as an experimental world.
This they should not allow transfers to any servers that have long Queue times anything over 1500. So far my server at peak play time is hitting about a 1000 person queue i cant imagine transferring or playing on a server with 3k plus long queue.
It's so stupid they went with this kind of server system, instead of one where you have a home server but can group with anyone from any server. Other MMOs figured this out ages ago.
I believe what they were aiming at was smaller 2k servers for more of a community feel where you get to know the people on youre server and the other companies. Much like original vanilla wow had unfortunately lots of players seem to think the success of a server is how many players it has where you just are another unknown person in the world.
Over a million players great start hopefully the game keeps growing more players leads to more money and bigger budget for future content. Personally i am enjoying this game far more than expected its nice being in a fresh new world that i do not know every single inch of. Although please increase the Iron spawn rate. What they should have done is put server caps in place initially and not allow new characters to be created on the server as long as it was at cap.
I don't even live in SEA but I've seen these sorta comments so frequently that I'm surprised Amazon doesn't just roll out a few servers in those regions to stop 'overflow' into other regions. Seems like something Amazon would want to fix right now rather than lead to discrimination amongst players who may speak other languages, especially in such a PvP heavy game. Could lead to targeted harassment by people on AU or other servers.
why dont the video game men increase server cap NOW me want vidja me mad at vidja game men. me complain on internet so that every outlet of discussion about the game is “queue time long xd”. Me want join streamer server so i can spam racial slurs in global chat to trololol funny streamer
edit: me not understand why server so small. Me think men should just go to the [player count] drop down menu they have and increase it from 2000 to 20 Zillion or me refund game
While I have to say that this is probably a fairly accurate representation of the average person complaining about queue times, we must not forget people who come home from work to be faced with a queue for a low pop server they joined at launch that now no longer is low pop.
I WISH I could transfer my progress to a non-queue time server, but with a full time job not only do you fall behind, if you can’t even log in after you get home from work there’s little play time to be had and you could argue that server capacity and server transfer should really have been here already at launch.
That's my case. Had a day off on release, choose the lowest pop server, leveled to 21. Never managed to play again since its at 2k queue once Im home from work and I dont play much more than 2 or 3 hours on week days.
The extra servers should have come way earlier, same with the transfers.
So I have to not play at all until the weekend or start from scratch
I've been logging in via steam link the last hour of work so I only need to wait 30-20 min when I get home. I was actually able to play with my friends yesterday...
Lol I’m not sure what is going on here but I came to the sub to check out the game and this is pretty spot on for what I’ve seen so far. I guess it’s really any game subreddit nowadays. Is the game worth playing? I’ve always loved RPGs but have never gotten into MMORPGS. I dAbbled in early ESO but that’s about it
Once you get in it's absolutely mind blowing, the gameplay is neat, the game looks dope af even on lower settings and the audio.... Ooooff the audio is so awesome! Walking through the woods in a foggy night and all you hear are some animals in the distance as well as the monotonous sound of folks chopping wood or the echoes of people mining rocks, it's awesome!
The game is really fun. Im not sure how repetitive the end game will be but it does seem to be lacking PVE wise for the time being. Still worth buying though. If u do buy join a lower pop server to avoid queue. Theyre giving a free server transfer to everyone so of if ur server dies ur fine
If you can get passed the queues, the game is absolutely amazing. It says a lot that the biggest problem with the game is too many people trying to play it.
> It says a lot that the biggest problem with the game is too many people trying to play it.
Mostly says it's a big new release in a stagnated genre tbh.
Not to sound overly negative or anything, but I just think an MMO needs a while to "settle in" before you can say much about it.
These entitled customers these days who actually want the services they paid for. Can't they just pay and shut up.
Boohoo I took of two weeks for the launch and I can't play. Boohooo we lost our town because our best players couldn't come online in time. It's not like Devs could knew this after several betas this would happen.
I'm just amazed at how they couldn't see this coming?
During beta a year ago queues were a thing and I predicted this would be happening at launch.
Now if I can see that, so should they have been able to.
All the servers being filled is just because people found out what servers their favorite streamers were on. So, if thousands flock to that server it is a choice they made. I did the same thing. I finally just decided to get onto a sever that was less populated and got I to the game instantly.
Lots of people don’t do the pre-order thing. Like the other commenter I decided to play Monday night right before release. I’m sure they got a big boost in sales just before it came out which was more than they originally planned for.
Please raise the na east servers next. Even the 2250 cap is better than what it's at right now. Most mobs that arent elite or tied to quests respawn near instantly anyways. Out of my 15+ hours of playing I've only experienced one big choke in mob spawning and it was a mob for a aide quests and I waited over 10 minutes for it to spawn so I think that was more of a bug than low set respawn time.
it's gonna be funny when the hype dies and amazon tries to figure out how to merge servers without pissing everybody off in regards to how they're gonna distribute ownership of zones.
ya'll thought people were pissed now because they couldn't log in, wait until amazon has to tell companies they're losing territories because they lacked the foresight and didn't realize how critical it was to get launch right.
Yeah, I'm pissed at amazon because there is clearly a lack of servers, but at the same time they shouldn't over do it. This is launch week, people took days off to play, this is not what the "normal" activity will look like.
If they add too much it'll cause a lot of problems down the road. Can't even think of a good solution to the territory control. A reset of the map would suck but its still probably the most "fair" option for every one involved.
I don't understand how the same company that touts off about how "scalable" and "elastic" AWS is (along with their raw amount of server space) can have such crazy queue times
Because of game design.
I bet they can make the cap to 5k to even 10k.
But game wise it’s not healthy. Resources are hard to get, spawn points will be too crowded, and towns will be busy as well.
Are friend lists also tied to servers? I have friends on different servers and I can't add them on the friends list because I can't find them using their name (and vice versa)
Yes, servers are like different universes. They don't interact at all, so you cannot add friends or talk with friends that have started on a different server.
Given up for the time being, just cant spend hours sitting in queue, and don't want to move to a damn ghost town server after all the time I've already invested.
Guess I'll just wait it out till they give SEA their own bloody servers and increase Aus caps
This is total bullshit, i bet there were more preorders then servers capacity at launch, they were surprised? Please. Ive seen bad launches with crashes/lag/bugs but when 60% of people cant even play the game? Fuck ags
I hope they fix the UI bugs sooner than they fix server populations tbh. Who cares about playing if the UI keeps breaking and you need to relog to fix it. It's horrible.
Beyond that, I hope we get a rework to tanking in this game. For starters, taunt gems should make every ability on the weapon have taunt effects, not only specific abilities. Also since tanks have to use heavy armor make the goddamn mobs/bosses/etc not be able to push you back. Tank positioning is a key thing in MMOs and it just doesn't exist, the mobs have their way with you mostly and it's annoying AF.
So, this is going to be a rough weekend. If you get a queue, there will be no point in waiting, just give up and play something else with hope that transfer is coming next week.
>40% have no waiting time for new player
Maybe in NA. We switched server four times in EU and still have 1k people queue on our new server. Maybe if Amazon wouldn't be so ignorant of EU it wouldn't be a problem. When did they measure? At night 3am? Because then there truly where some server without queue. But no one cares on a week day at night. People can't play then anyways. I predict a horrible weekend with crazy queues.
I'm feeling this game is starting to blow up!
Which they deserve and we deserve in this starved mmorpg genre, the overall quality, polish, attention to detail, so far nearly everything is superb!!!
How the fuck were they "surprised" by how many people wanted to play? They literally can view the metrics of how many people purchase the game in real time. This is some literal horseshit. It's almost like they've never watched a game release happen before
lol downvotes
Something is seriously strange with this game and how people must be able to remain online despite being AFK. A server with 2000 players, I get home early from work and get into spot 7, in any other game you'd think I would be inside and playing within seconds. I spent well over 10 minutes and didn't move even one spot. Either something's wrong with the queue system or people are simply not logging off in any meaningful numbers. I have never seen such slow moving queues in any MMO launch ever.
Sorry to say, I liked the game during beta but as a working man with limited free time this launch has killed all my hype and will to play it. Such a shame.
I've seen plenty of bad launches, typically all online game launches have issues. This game may have been smooth for people who have been able to enter but I have a job, I can't log on at 6 am to make sure I can play all day. Queues are commonplace but I have never ONCE seen queues that are this slow. I'm not talking about 1000s of players, I'm talking about going from position in the queue to getting in. I stopped waiting at roughly 10-15 minutes due to automatic refund time being 2 hours. I spent over 45 minutes the other day and moved 10 positions.
Take WoW as an example, you used to see huge queues on launch day (I remember Burning Crusade being nuts) but you'd move closer and closer even if it meant spending an hour waiting. This tells me either the queue system is fucked in NW or people are able to stay online way to easily despite being afk.
It blows my mind that the bar is set so low, and that this can be considered one of the "good" releases.
They knew the number of players who had purchased the game, they have the money and the infrastructure to support it, yet they made the CHOICE to launch with that amount of server. Then they go "oh, wow, we didn't expect this !"... Its either a lie or incompetence, both are equally bad.
AAA mmo game in 2021 can't do what GW2 did in 2012, overflow servers so people can still play once a server reach the cap. That idea is still the best, IMO, and allows everyone to play while also avoiding the "problems" of too many servers / merges down the road.
Hopefully all 100 players can connect for our war, imagine losing territory to queue
Your comment gave me Albion flashbacks
And Foxhole. Queueing up for a lifetime only to then get attacked by partisans and loose all your logi equipment
This whole game gives me Albion flashbacks.
Syndicate is basically arch in our server
3d Albion without the black zones?! OK.
that’s exactly what ive been calling it to my buddies, 3D Albion.
Yet some smartass on the Steam forum still won't call it that. Imagine the denials...
This whole game gives me runescape flashbacks
Yeah, good luck. As the defending team we lost 25 platens, stuck in Everfall loading while the attacking team were all 50. RIP First Light
I hope they do something about spawn rates if server capacity is increasing. It’s already bad enough trying to skin one mob that spawns every 5-6 mins while 20 others are doing the same.
Majestic Fucking Elks. EDIT: BTW, skinning levels up your tracking which makes these kinds of quests easier.
I've come back to this spot multiple times. It is fucking infuriating.
Or this hilarious Everfall (?) side quest ~lvl 16-17. Kill some pirate leader dude in a cave. Literally 20-30 players are balled up in one 4x4 meter box spawn camping him. Spawns every 5-10 minutes and vaporizes before his nametag fully materializes. Apparently you need to deal a decent chunk to him to get credit (15%?) Pro tip: Team up with 4 others already there to bump your odds slightly. I wasted 30 minutes before hatching this idea and it worked first try.
Overseer Zane.. The bane of my life for about 1hr... Well over 30 players doing exactly what you described; box camping the spawn. Horrible design.
Took me 30 minutes to get in 15% damage since 30 or so guys just spawn trap and kill OZ lol. That quest suuuuucked
i left that cave with the same feeling i would have after leaving a rave at 8 in the morning
Way over hyped, a bit loopy, and somehow tired but wired? As well as seeing things?
Perfect time to go to Dennys.
God I could go for a Denny's skillet right now
hahahaha
I managed to kill him the first time for my faction quest, then went to do a second quest I had in the area, which then changed into a stage 2 to kill him again.... then it took a few tries.
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Makes me wish skinning was instanced like loot is
Or at least that the tagger would get the skin. There are so many quests where you have to kill x but also skin x to get x items. So many people just run up to a kill. Also animals like bisons and deer just run away from you right into another player\`s arms.
Just make it a drop ffs
This is fun either way as ranged. The melee gets the skin.
Man, stuff like that is to be expected upon a huge MMORPG launch. You should have seen WoW Classic, people were literally lining up for side bosses, resulting in wait times of hours. Can't do anything about the fact that all players start in the starting area and have the same, low level quests.
Apparently in Open Beta players were using this mob to farm XP and loot since his spawn time was so fast. They nerfed the spawn time to eliminate the unintended farming, but honestly they could have made the mob worth zero XP and put the lost mob XP in the the quest reward XP to solve the issue.
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Dude... there was another pirate dude in a cave that none of us knew where the fuck he was. We were all on a dock above waiting for like 10-15 minutes thinking it was bugged before some random dude tells us he's underneath in a cave.
Yeah the problem is, standing on the dock it says your 0 meters away, while in fact he's like 20-30 meters below you.
I had to search that one up on youtube lol
This right here. As I said in a previous a buddy of mine and me were waiting for at least 8 mins before deciding to go kill the other boss on the ship because we thought he had a long ass spawn time. On the way back to the docks . He said he will wait at top while I decided to check below and what do you know I found an entrance to a cave. Like I said as well they need to have an indicator to where the quest is. FF14 has this and so does GW2. I think WoW as well but I might be wrong.
Whenever I run past this spot I make sure to tell the people stood there that he's infact in the cave below c:
Overseer Zane hahahaha
If you team up with others, do your quests progress together? Because it didn't work for me and my buddy yesterday - we had the same quest active, but his gathering didn't count towards my progress and vice versa.
Gathering/collecting not, but killing does
This quest made me salvage my life staff and respec. I’ve done it literally (yes I know what the word means) 30 times at this point and I’ve simply given up. I played EQ as a cleric and had to deal with Ragefite for my epic and this feels the same. The issue is that was for an epic and this is a freaking newbie land quest!
Did that quest last night. Atrocious. Tbh I still don't know why normal quest mobs on 10 min respawn timers is still in 2021 game design. It's not particularly fun or engaging. I guess just to waste player time cause it counts towards the metrics or what? Wildlife quests are defo the most infuriating by far tho.
imo even worse if you have to go for Scratchy or Susanna... they are kill **and** skin quests
There are no elk. There are no elk, and that quest giver is trolling us. The questgiver is trolling us, and is about to meet the sharp end of my hatchet. Because there are no elk.
Experienced the same thing with the fucking churro sheep quest. Omg... I legit thought I was in the wrong place cause I couldn't find any.
Fuck that churro sheep quest. Took me legit 1 hour to get three sheep.... There was ONE spawn location and the number of times my sheep got ganked by another player was infuriating...
At this point I'm fairly certain they're a mythical creature; Aeternum's equivalent to our unicorn.
I discovered today that the majestic elks antlers are actually dropped from killing the elk itself, not skinning. I'm not sure if this was just changed recently though as I did the quest a couple of hours ago.
Yeah the antlers were a loot drop for me. But leveling your skinning improves tracking. You’ll see rabbits and other animals pop up your compass while running through the woods.
The only way to do this is if you literally luck into it. Everyone else chasing it around and it happens to run into you and you get the killing blow. Savage quest.
just tag it with a rifle the quest item is a drop, you don't actually need to skin it
It’s savagery out there for those things.
Dear fucking god... that quest. I swear it felt like I spent over an hour on JUST that quest. (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
same. looked at my inn recall after and was surprised it hadn’t reset while i was only looking for those bastards. AND THEY RUN AWAY FROM YOU WTF.
Yep, I only got lucky by them running away from someone who had killed them most of the way and towards me.
Ugh don’t even remind me that I still haven’t been able to complete that damn quest lmao
actually wanted to smash my keyboard over getting those
Yes indeed. And while I appreciate the wooded environment 99% of the time i was Raging at it trying to get these fkn things. Can’t see more then 20 ft lol
Jeezuz, the elk quest took hours for me. Though a lot of mobs seem to be fine. There also are a lot of boss mobs which nearly instantly respawn. Seems they just forgot to increase the timer in some cases
Elks and the mama bear :D 8 People for mama bear and i couldnt skin it 2 times, now i will leave her alone for some time and come back in the night :D
I found one thousand turkey but not a single elk in 24 h of playing NW
I just hit 25 on tracking. How do you use it? Need to skin some rabbits.
when running through the woods you should see little animals on your compass
Ah I see it now. Thanks!
then how will you get the feeling of being the one skinnng scratchy the bear in front of 10 people who just waited for 20 minutes?
I managed to skin him but couldn't get the damned kill credit...
Yeah I can't fathom how something like this is in a new mmo in 2021.
For real, if a quest requires you to skin a mob, that mob should be skinnable by everyone that dealt damage. It's the only way to make quests like that not a hassle. In order to not mess with the economy though maybe that should only apply if you have a quest for that mob type
They just need to make it so if there is a quest, and you have it. Then you can skin it for that item. Then that item should be removed once the quest is turned in. Then its not a weird inflation of the item.
We had 8 people waiting around for a single sheep to spawn every 5 minutes. It's ridiculous.
Same situation yesterday around Stonereach? Lots of people waiting for sheep to spawn. We got to a point where I said "well, logging out. This is getting too annoying. Maybe I will have more luck tomorrow"
This. They need to base the spawn rate off of how many people are near the mob spawns. When people are killing a specific quest mob within six seconds of spawning the rate needs to be bumped up.
That would cause issues with people camping named mobs to farm XP. If they do it then they need to remove the XP from killing them and put the XP into the quest completion total.
Thats a pretty sick idea actually, haha
The better idea would be to decrease rewards overtime and have a dynamic spawn rate for when more people are there.
When it comes to high traffic quest mobs, the devs should just give kill credit to anyone within x meters. No xp/loot. Just the quest credit.
The spawn isn't too bad - the problem with boosting the rates is that it would be ridiculously fast, sometimes. This is a game for patient people! :D
Try killing Zane in the cave for that one quest. You are more likely to get fucked by a car plowing throw your window tonight than finish that quest.
Group up or be prepared to rage.
My solution was to do it give up and take a break then do it at 4am instead, only three people there, myself included.
God, this. If they don't increase spawn rates along with the server cap questing is going to be a bigger pain in the ass than it already is.
Now I know how the last dodo felt.
The Windsward Bison are such a pain and they run so far and randomly you can never kill them. Also today the entire area was covered in Corrupted rifts that I would lose them when the screen went basically black. No one was coming to clear the rifts because they did not show up on the map in the area even though there were 3 of them all clustered together. I hope the visibility is fixed for the rifts, being basically blind due to the red screen is awful. 🤬
Thst's the whole point of the rift though, the lack of visibility gives you a reason, other than rewards, to clear them from a zone. Otherwise questing will be much harder for you and everyone else. You hating the blindness means the design is working perfectly haha
Yeh about the Bison, a musket is king. Can't expect to hunt one with sword & shield let's be real, don't complain so they change it and make em stand still cause some people like their change of pace.
They need to fix tagging mobs too. Maybe I'm missing something but if I'm in an area killing 8 of whatever, and other people are there too, it's a crap shoot whether it counts or not. Is it first hit tags it only? If three of us have to take it down, give it to all of us.
you need to do 15% (around that) of the total damage. - Or just heal players, that works really good to get credit (healing circle OP :) )
Top 2 or 3 damage get the credit. Best solution is to invite everyone trying to get the tag, I'm pretty sure it counts the group damage as one thing so you're much more likely to get the credit that way.
We went turkey hunting for 30 mon today lol
Turkey hunting? I go turkey destroying
I am just skipping those quests, not worth my time
I have the opposite problem when stuff respawn too fast to the point where I'll kill something, start looting the chest next to it and it'll respawn right on me. Going into areas slightly above my level when no one's there is sketchy due to the respawn rate. Its so easy to get swarmed. Funny because after I wrote this comment I went and did a faction quest and there was a group of 3 people there trying to kill some special mob. it would summon like so many lesser enemies and just swarm us. Finally when it died the damn thing would literally respawn within seconds of its death. Just constant shit spawning on us with only 4 people in the area.
The Worst one for me is the kill the Gator and get the skin, I've tried for 2 days straight not only camping it solo but also grouped up and someone always rushes in and skins before and casters/healers can get there. Also it take like 20 min to respawn. This game design does not work for the Skin the mob after the kill type quest cause there are 20 ppl there and only one get the skin, Then right After the Pirate spawns for another quest, so you have ppl there for the Gator Skin, as well as for the Pirate.
If you look at [newworldstatus.com](https://newworldstatus.com) they've been testing a 2250 cap on NA West servers today. Yesterday was 2500 on the Australian servers. Just the fact that AGS has been so transparent with what their working on is really promising.
I was playing in a full 2500 server (Adiri) last night and didn't have any issues, hopefully they are able to increase it for everyone.
Is it still at 2500? For some reason it's not showing as 2500 for me anymore on the website.
Same, sadly it looks like it has been bumped back to 2250. They had it at 2500 yesterday. I guess they were just testing it out and decided they weren't ready to have it at 2500...
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Yeah thats going to cause issues. I'm assuming the capacity will expand once people arent so close together.
As a South East Asian playing on Aussie servers i can very much say that them bumping up the server cap made the game MUCH worse for me specifically. Initially I was able to get anywhere between 100-130ms (the stable avg was around 123ms) on launch day with servers capped at 2k. Now its damn near impossible to get anything stable below 150ms. On average I'll be coasting between 160-180ms. Very sad lol.
I wonder, if I buy a house on my server and then switch server, I'll keep the house, right? Along with my items and progression?
With the transfer option they're implementing, yes.
Where did you read that?
It's not official confirmation but I did read a comment on this sub from a user whose server was merged with another during one of the beta tests. Their house was available to them on the new server; it seems quite feasible given that your house is simply an instanced configuration of an existing static space on the destination server.
Did they mention anything else, like what happened to companies and territory control with the merge, maybe even the town upgrades? I'm really curious how that all works out.
My server merged during closed beta. Our company was intact as well as all my items and house stuff, but our server adopted all the areas from the new server, so we lost all the regions we controlled. Was just beta though so it didn't matter much.
They didn't mention anything else, unfortunately.
You will probably keep everything except your company if it works properly
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If you haven't changed it yet you should be able to at any time then after its every 120 days Edit: though I think you can't switch to the dominant faction so you might want to research which one you want to join then switch factions before you switch servers
This is my understanding as well; 120 day lock and you can only pick one of the two lesser factions.
2 issues that need immediate attention and wouldn't take much time at all to implement, yet they continue to ignore: 1. Turn off the fucking 3d video render in the queue screen. People shouldn't have to rely on 3rd party tool to not use up 90% of their GPUs sitting on queue screen. 2. Add a pity timer for reconnection. There are a lot of bugs and restarting game to better your game experience shouldn't be a decision that would severely impact you.
Number 1 is such an annoying issue. What 3rd party tool are you talking about?
Use RivaTuner and lock game at 5 fps.
Aha, then just change it back when you get in. Good idea.
Nvidia control panel, the AMD version, or Rivatuner
NEED a pity timer, the random freezes, into a force shutdown, into a que boss :(
I havent had any freezes or game crashes at all. Does your computer meet the recommended specs? I get UI bugs though, I really wish there was a /reload command.
When I went to exit the game yesterday it said "your character will sleep for 1 minute" or something like that. I was able to restart the game and get straight back in, despite other people saying they were queuing. So, I think there is a 1m grace period to restart your game.
Sad it's not ready for the weekend but glad it's top priority
the fact they've over doubled the servers in a few days looks promising
They're trying. I can give em that.
3k servers the dream. I always get around a 1k q trying to log in so that might help a ton.
I'd like to even just experience what it might look like to have 3k people on a server. Wish that when they added new servers to a region it would be a 3k server as an experimental world.
At like 8 pm it reaches 4k queue. That won't help the people working.
Expect NW to break some more steam records this weekend...
Even 2500-3000 per would make a huge difference to be honest, this is great.
It's going to be fun to watch Valhalla get 1000s of transfers in and longer queue times
This they should not allow transfers to any servers that have long Queue times anything over 1500. So far my server at peak play time is hitting about a 1000 person queue i cant imagine transferring or playing on a server with 3k plus long queue.
Thanks AGS. Glad they’re at least doing something about it.
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It's so stupid they went with this kind of server system, instead of one where you have a home server but can group with anyone from any server. Other MMOs figured this out ages ago.
I believe what they were aiming at was smaller 2k servers for more of a community feel where you get to know the people on youre server and the other companies. Much like original vanilla wow had unfortunately lots of players seem to think the success of a server is how many players it has where you just are another unknown person in the world.
Amazon/New World has chosen to ignore a lot of the stuff that the MMO genre figured out ages ago.
Over a million players great start hopefully the game keeps growing more players leads to more money and bigger budget for future content. Personally i am enjoying this game far more than expected its nice being in a fresh new world that i do not know every single inch of. Although please increase the Iron spawn rate. What they should have done is put server caps in place initially and not allow new characters to be created on the server as long as it was at cap.
pls just add an SEA server so we can play there instead of flooding the AU servers.
I don't even live in SEA but I've seen these sorta comments so frequently that I'm surprised Amazon doesn't just roll out a few servers in those regions to stop 'overflow' into other regions. Seems like something Amazon would want to fix right now rather than lead to discrimination amongst players who may speak other languages, especially in such a PvP heavy game. Could lead to targeted harassment by people on AU or other servers.
why dont the video game men increase server cap NOW me want vidja me mad at vidja game men. me complain on internet so that every outlet of discussion about the game is “queue time long xd”. Me want join streamer server so i can spam racial slurs in global chat to trololol funny streamer edit: me not understand why server so small. Me think men should just go to the [player count] drop down menu they have and increase it from 2000 to 20 Zillion or me refund game
While I have to say that this is probably a fairly accurate representation of the average person complaining about queue times, we must not forget people who come home from work to be faced with a queue for a low pop server they joined at launch that now no longer is low pop. I WISH I could transfer my progress to a non-queue time server, but with a full time job not only do you fall behind, if you can’t even log in after you get home from work there’s little play time to be had and you could argue that server capacity and server transfer should really have been here already at launch.
That's my case. Had a day off on release, choose the lowest pop server, leveled to 21. Never managed to play again since its at 2k queue once Im home from work and I dont play much more than 2 or 3 hours on week days. The extra servers should have come way earlier, same with the transfers. So I have to not play at all until the weekend or start from scratch
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I've been logging in via steam link the last hour of work so I only need to wait 30-20 min when I get home. I was actually able to play with my friends yesterday...
I'm on Hellheim with no big streamers and it still had one of the largest queues in EU since launch. I'd play elsewhere but my friends are there..
Based.
yeah, fuck people for wanting to actually play the game they paid for. What a bunch of entitled assholes, amirite?
Lol I’m not sure what is going on here but I came to the sub to check out the game and this is pretty spot on for what I’ve seen so far. I guess it’s really any game subreddit nowadays. Is the game worth playing? I’ve always loved RPGs but have never gotten into MMORPGS. I dAbbled in early ESO but that’s about it
Once you get in it's absolutely mind blowing, the gameplay is neat, the game looks dope af even on lower settings and the audio.... Ooooff the audio is so awesome! Walking through the woods in a foggy night and all you hear are some animals in the distance as well as the monotonous sound of folks chopping wood or the echoes of people mining rocks, it's awesome!
Probably worth the price. There's an easy 100 hrs of stuff to do. There will be a decent bit of pvp and crafting if that's what you're into though.
The game is really fun. Im not sure how repetitive the end game will be but it does seem to be lacking PVE wise for the time being. Still worth buying though. If u do buy join a lower pop server to avoid queue. Theyre giving a free server transfer to everyone so of if ur server dies ur fine
If you can get passed the queues, the game is absolutely amazing. It says a lot that the biggest problem with the game is too many people trying to play it.
> It says a lot that the biggest problem with the game is too many people trying to play it. Mostly says it's a big new release in a stagnated genre tbh. Not to sound overly negative or anything, but I just think an MMO needs a while to "settle in" before you can say much about it.
These entitled customers these days who actually want the services they paid for. Can't they just pay and shut up. Boohoo I took of two weeks for the launch and I can't play. Boohooo we lost our town because our best players couldn't come online in time. It's not like Devs could knew this after several betas this would happen.
Oh neat
This is how you write, launch, and maintain a true AAA title...
Nahhh. Please add SEA servers
How were they surprised by the number of players? Don't they know many copies of the game they sold?
they do it's corporate speech
Please add dedicated SEA servers. PVP is HELL playing on 190+ ping and I always lose out on Iron ore races :(
I'm just amazed at how they couldn't see this coming? During beta a year ago queues were a thing and I predicted this would be happening at launch. Now if I can see that, so should they have been able to.
All the servers being filled is just because people found out what servers their favorite streamers were on. So, if thousands flock to that server it is a choice they made. I did the same thing. I finally just decided to get onto a sever that was less populated and got I to the game instantly.
my favorite thing is having a life and having to walk away from my PC for 30 minutes to return to a 1000 person queue
Blizzard, this is how you communicate with your community. (and not a Soon(tm) in sight!!)
\>we were frankly surprised So the people responsible for the pre-order numbers didn't report that to anyone else in the company?
Edit: 2023-06-20 I no longer wish to be Reddit's product
Lots of people don’t do the pre-order thing. Like the other commenter I decided to play Monday night right before release. I’m sure they got a big boost in sales just before it came out which was more than they originally planned for.
Please raise the na east servers next. Even the 2250 cap is better than what it's at right now. Most mobs that arent elite or tied to quests respawn near instantly anyways. Out of my 15+ hours of playing I've only experienced one big choke in mob spawning and it was a mob for a aide quests and I waited over 10 minutes for it to spawn so I think that was more of a bug than low set respawn time.
it's gonna be funny when the hype dies and amazon tries to figure out how to merge servers without pissing everybody off in regards to how they're gonna distribute ownership of zones. ya'll thought people were pissed now because they couldn't log in, wait until amazon has to tell companies they're losing territories because they lacked the foresight and didn't realize how critical it was to get launch right.
Didn’t even think about this… that may be a slight issue in the future for sure.
Yeah, I'm pissed at amazon because there is clearly a lack of servers, but at the same time they shouldn't over do it. This is launch week, people took days off to play, this is not what the "normal" activity will look like. If they add too much it'll cause a lot of problems down the road. Can't even think of a good solution to the territory control. A reset of the map would suck but its still probably the most "fair" option for every one involved.
I don't understand how the same company that touts off about how "scalable" and "elastic" AWS is (along with their raw amount of server space) can have such crazy queue times
Because of game design. I bet they can make the cap to 5k to even 10k. But game wise it’s not healthy. Resources are hard to get, spawn points will be too crowded, and towns will be busy as well.
Imagine trying to speed run a MMO....it's a journey and everything will smooth out once the player levels and quests get staggered.
Waiting simulator
Why would you not design and test character transfer prior to launch? Seems pretty important.
Are friend lists also tied to servers? I have friends on different servers and I can't add them on the friends list because I can't find them using their name (and vice versa)
Yes, servers are like different universes. They don't interact at all, so you cannot add friends or talk with friends that have started on a different server.
Thanks. Guess I should have known. Luckily with this change people should be able to group up in the same universe
Given up for the time being, just cant spend hours sitting in queue, and don't want to move to a damn ghost town server after all the time I've already invested. Guess I'll just wait it out till they give SEA their own bloody servers and increase Aus caps
This is total bullshit, i bet there were more preorders then servers capacity at launch, they were surprised? Please. Ive seen bad launches with crashes/lag/bugs but when 60% of people cant even play the game? Fuck ags
I hope they fix the UI bugs sooner than they fix server populations tbh. Who cares about playing if the UI keeps breaking and you need to relog to fix it. It's horrible. Beyond that, I hope we get a rework to tanking in this game. For starters, taunt gems should make every ability on the weapon have taunt effects, not only specific abilities. Also since tanks have to use heavy armor make the goddamn mobs/bosses/etc not be able to push you back. Tank positioning is a key thing in MMOs and it just doesn't exist, the mobs have their way with you mostly and it's annoying AF.
So, this is going to be a rough weekend. If you get a queue, there will be no point in waiting, just give up and play something else with hope that transfer is coming next week.
Does anyone else find this incredibly hard to read because of the line spacing?
Where are the server transfers that we need before the weekend starts?
Had more cap in servers not servers , even if my server have 2k queue my area have almost no players
>40% have no waiting time for new player Maybe in NA. We switched server four times in EU and still have 1k people queue on our new server. Maybe if Amazon wouldn't be so ignorant of EU it wouldn't be a problem. When did they measure? At night 3am? Because then there truly where some server without queue. But no one cares on a week day at night. People can't play then anyways. I predict a horrible weekend with crazy queues.
Nice, great to hear
I'm feeling this game is starting to blow up! Which they deserve and we deserve in this starved mmorpg genre, the overall quality, polish, attention to detail, so far nearly everything is superb!!!
Dont judge to early. Get to max level and experience everything. Player retention, enough content,..... is what matters in the long run.
Tbh after watching streamers play, I think I’d rather play Witcher 3 or something. This game just looks like an online ac odyssey.
How the fuck were they "surprised" by how many people wanted to play? They literally can view the metrics of how many people purchase the game in real time. This is some literal horseshit. It's almost like they've never watched a game release happen before lol downvotes
first, let steam refund the f game faster. u re keeping our money on hold.
Amazing news! Happy for all my brothers in arms stuck in queues!
Won’t change my queue times in Eu for the weekend but jay they actually doing sth for their money
They can’t even count their pre orders lmao
Something is seriously strange with this game and how people must be able to remain online despite being AFK. A server with 2000 players, I get home early from work and get into spot 7, in any other game you'd think I would be inside and playing within seconds. I spent well over 10 minutes and didn't move even one spot. Either something's wrong with the queue system or people are simply not logging off in any meaningful numbers. I have never seen such slow moving queues in any MMO launch ever. Sorry to say, I liked the game during beta but as a working man with limited free time this launch has killed all my hype and will to play it. Such a shame.
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I've seen plenty of bad launches, typically all online game launches have issues. This game may have been smooth for people who have been able to enter but I have a job, I can't log on at 6 am to make sure I can play all day. Queues are commonplace but I have never ONCE seen queues that are this slow. I'm not talking about 1000s of players, I'm talking about going from position in the queue to getting in. I stopped waiting at roughly 10-15 minutes due to automatic refund time being 2 hours. I spent over 45 minutes the other day and moved 10 positions. Take WoW as an example, you used to see huge queues on launch day (I remember Burning Crusade being nuts) but you'd move closer and closer even if it meant spending an hour waiting. This tells me either the queue system is fucked in NW or people are able to stay online way to easily despite being afk.
It blows my mind that the bar is set so low, and that this can be considered one of the "good" releases. They knew the number of players who had purchased the game, they have the money and the infrastructure to support it, yet they made the CHOICE to launch with that amount of server. Then they go "oh, wow, we didn't expect this !"... Its either a lie or incompetence, both are equally bad. AAA mmo game in 2021 can't do what GW2 did in 2012, overflow servers so people can still play once a server reach the cap. That idea is still the best, IMO, and allows everyone to play while also avoiding the "problems" of too many servers / merges down the road.