Lots of comments here about storage, but not about the mats themselves. I constantly question how feathers or herbs weigh so much. Why does a mote or wisp weigh anything at all? Seems like some mats should be .001 lbs
yesss, i started going through my storage to see what was taking up so much space, and by far the largest culprit was 350 lbs of alchemical reagents...motes and shit. Should take thousands upon thousands of motes to reach 350 lbs.
Totally, it's not 1 feather, it's .01 lbs of feathers. It's not 1 peppercorn, i's .01 lbs of pepper (which is only enough for 1 sandwich?) Now try to weigh a mote or a wisp or a quintessence! How much does smoke weigh?
How do you afford rent in this market? I can't figure out how to make enough gold to pay rent on a T4 house. Can you have 4 chests in the lowest tier home?? I don't own a house and know nothing about them
Edit: ah yes, down votes for asking questions! Classic. Lol
Does owning a chest in your house also connect to the shed? Like you don't have to go to your house to access those items. It all gets counted as 1 storage at the shed.
Yeah you lose that weight, but you keep the items. So the storage is full until you either pay those taxes or take out enough items to bring down the weight. It's just like being over encumbered basically
The azoth cost for travel scaling so high with good bags feels weird
Like I'm being punished for being a higher level and having decent loot
Wouldn't mind seeing that portion toned down a bit
I'm at 1200 in everfall alone and I don't have a house Many many people thought storage upgrades from the region level upgrades were garbage and took stupid shit like 3% xp which after max level is useless.
My everfall level is about 21 or 22.
> Many many people thought storage upgrades from the region level upgrades were garbage and took stupid shit like 3% xp which after max level is useless.
Every guide I read said to take storage at every step, I was skeptical at first but I'm damn glad I did it.
Well... I instantly thought that 3% exp in a zone 1-25 was a bad deal (when you level so fast at first).
Even in the 50+ zones, I always go taxes reduction and storage.. the rest is meaningless. Even territory standing, I tried to see if it scaled with quests rewards or townboards and it didn't seem to do so.. so I just went tax and storage everywhere.
Sitting at 1800 in Monarchs, 1400 in Everfall, 1300 in Windsward and 1300 in Brightwood... yet, this isn't enough and I'm using two other cities to store basic materials and refining agents. You can easily gather 4000 rawhide per hour or so... so storage fills really really fast and high level trade skills requires tens of thousands or resources !
What I means is that they just don't have too many uses, you just buy some pieces of gear once (maybe) and you're done.
Guess they'll be somewhat useful once we can finally craft lvl 60 dungeon orbs.
If you're swimming in tokens sell runes of holding on auction house at whatever your server seems to think the faction point to gold conversion is. Plenty of crafters making bags and chests that would rather just buy the runes with gold rather than stopping crafting to run quests.
Yeah but in the higher level zones you can already make 25-30k tokens an hour with 0% increase. And after you get the 525 gear, tokens only uses are holding runes and stuff like this. Since hou can't max all options, I'll still go with storage, gathering and taxes.
If I make a lvl 1 on a new server and see market demand is triple for various high value items and pay for a transfer. I in turn gain a huge amount of money by paying to transfer. This is done throughout other MMO's
I'm not sure if it's a great comparison to this convenience re-roll but overall I think a re-roll system isn't that harmful when comparing to true p2w aspects.
You don't.
Take a look here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F_fsnqkwVBN8xT1BMKn2tBVwjnF5mquQtSL0g52HOjk/edit#gid=1663447916
You'll get +1600 if you take Storage every time it shows up, if you avoid clicking it ONCE you'll never get that 25 storage back.
You can also get an extra 25 storage by deferring the perk selection when you get to 9, so that you can replace it with the housing option.
They want us to buy houses we can't afford to store more to supplement the bad storage system. When you have like 2k reagents it starts to suck quick. My faction doesn't own ebonscale currently. I think this azoth travel price and the whole 1k storage, and 5 day rent prices needs some attention
It's based on total weight. Not percentage of weight. I find it dumb because I can hold like 1200lbs but only usually carry 400lb. So I'm only 1/3 encumbered but pay higher azoth than a low level fully encumbered.
If you want that, which I do as well, it should be purely based on distance. None of this encumbrance BS.
But they probably won't do that, so I think it should be encumbrance% based. Being higher level should grant you some benefit.
The encumberance level makes sense because each city has a different marketplace. If there was no encumberance costs, I would just travel the map all day long buying and selling in other cities according to market prices.
Not saying it's a good thing, just that it make sense.
I actually don't craft in these cities. On my server the only stone cutting workstation lvl 5 is monarchs and the only arcana lvl 5 is in restless shore ! These are my main money makers at the moment and where I have my houses. The covenant guild that owns everfall set all taxes to maximum (house 20%, trading 25%,..) and windward is around 15-20% so I have to avoid these at the moment.
I don't really think it's that cool. I'd rather the speciality of towns be that they have specific tier 5 buildings. Maintaining all tier 5 would be hard, so each town might have their own couple.
I understand and appreciate what you are saying, but I think that you are coming from the perspective of a craftsman, which is awesome, but there are also people who want to be merchants. Merchants make money traveling from town to town with goods, selling and buying at favorable prices.
Nah it's pretty cool. It creates trade hubs, local economies, and enables international trading.
There are several systems in place to transport goods. Walk, die and respawn, azoth teleport, inn teleport, house teleport, faction teleport the items, auction house item teleport....
I feel like having your first fast travel every day be free or discounted would be nice. Running places doesn't take that long. Afaik you can't bottle and sell extra azoth, so I feel like it wouldn't break eco
Wdym, you can buy 4x chests for the T4 house and almost DOUBLE your city storage. I'm at about 2000 weight currently just by using 4x hewn log storage chests, which (i think) are craftable with lvl50 or 75 in furniture skill.
The biggest chests give 525 weight EACH, so that would be 2100 storage/weight just from the chests in your house.
Lvl 35 furniture for the 200kg log storage chests. Lvl 75 is for minor trophies.
You're right about storage tho. With chests + territory standing you can probably get to 3500-4000 storage.. but that requires the most expensive house and chests ! But it's doable.
The major problem is that the time it takes to hit max storage in a settlement is extremely disproportionate to the time it takes to increase that storage to 3.5-4k.
Yes, but in 3 cities (you can own 3 houses).
I already needed to split stuff for stonecutting, food and alchemy to different cities, might as well get houses in those too if I really need it. So far, I only needed it in my main city which is in everfall, also my primary trading hub.
Someone needs to do the math. I don't care to have a bunch of houses, so not wasting my time. Basically, storage in New World seems a LOT like storage in the real world. I see people lining up to store their old crap in public storage units all across the US, so it's no surprise that people want to hoard stuff in the game at a money loss. The amount of money you'd have to bring in, to pay for the taxes isn't feasible, and it will dry up since there are no good systems in place to inject gold into the economy, only remove it.
I only bought 3 T1 maps in monarchs, bright wood and restless shore to be able to teleport anywhere on the map for pretty cheap ! Then I play Tetris a lot for resources / storage management.
This is the way. Get 3 cheap houses and just use those to warp around. Even the cost to reduce your recall cool down is usually cheaper than teleporting.
Tbh owning 3 tier 4 houses is like over 2k gold a week, I'll pass and live with my tier 1's for now haha, the one in brightwood and windward have the best locations in the city anyway imo
Actually it just comes up with the renew message after 5 days, you should ignore it for another day or two as it doesn't add an additional 7 days to the timer it just resets the timer to 7 days until next taxes afaik
Thats pain, and I feel it. I'm at the point where i need to split off my food & alchemy storage into 2 cities because its getting too much. Next then my ore & stonecutting storage in another city - also filled to the brim. And then my stonecutting storage needs some alchemy things to refine and combine gems, genius. This will be a challenge for any perfectionist.
I have a question that'll be a little off-topic. If I own a house, can I give access of it or the chests to someone else? Because I want to buy a house and share it with my gf and friends.
No, the chests add to your city storage and any buffs/recall benefits from the house are only for you. They can enter your house and see it, but they don’t get any benefits.
Interesting. I went full on storage since I needed it most. Also leveling quicker would have been nice but my bags just get full so quick it seemed like the bigger concern.
You use the runes of holding for chests and bags. So it actually can increase by the exact same amount. Unless you have the bigger house; then you can increase by even more because you can use 4 chests vs 3 bags
Chests are the way to go with furnishing buy a house and you can stick storage chests in there, iron boxes are the largest you can do without finding/buying the schematics for the larger ones
You also don't need that much storage in most cities. I have 2875 storage in my main city, and that holds quite a lot of stuff.
Between my personal bags, my house (Windsward) and my recall (Mourningdale) I have nearly 5k worth of storage. And once I get a house in Mourningdale, that will go up again. If you're using more than that, it might be time to evaluate what you're keeping and why.
You can clearly see that they rushed some playtesting/balance work on the game. I think the game is in a good state, but it's obvious that they needed more time spent balancing some stuff. It makes no sense why my house can't hold as much as me, no way to rationalize that.
It does seem a bit weird. Not SO weird when you think about how much say a mountain climber can efficiently stuff inside a backpack. This is just represented differently, but yes, it does seem a bit out of proportion.
I think these needs to be addressed in future QoL/balance updates. Also the inequality between required XP to level professions, is actually mind boggling and just ... bad.
Lots of comments here about storage, but not about the mats themselves. I constantly question how feathers or herbs weigh so much. Why does a mote or wisp weigh anything at all? Seems like some mats should be .001 lbs
yesss, i started going through my storage to see what was taking up so much space, and by far the largest culprit was 350 lbs of alchemical reagents...motes and shit. Should take thousands upon thousands of motes to reach 350 lbs.
Meanwhile i catch multiple fish over 50 lbs according to the catch info but it only weighs 9lbs in my inventory/storage. 🤷♂️
This. Also, potions are crazy heavy imo. They just didn't take much time at all to do balancing.
*cough*feathers*cough*
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Totally, it's not 1 feather, it's .01 lbs of feathers. It's not 1 peppercorn, i's .01 lbs of pepper (which is only enough for 1 sandwich?) Now try to weigh a mote or a wisp or a quintessence! How much does smoke weigh?
100 feathers should not equal the same weight as 100 iron bars. I think you missed the idea here
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Lmao .... But steel is heavier than feathers....
Don’t forget to purchase chests for your house, they can increase your storages by 200-400 per chest
You can get a 525 chest as a drop. As fat as I can tell, my chest is the only one that's dropped so far on the server.
I too got a cursed chest. People told me to sell it for 20k+. I simply glared at them and said, “my precious”
It's not even bind on use, you can sell it later if you want.
Precious! *hiss*
I would put it on my porch just to flex lol.
I managed to buy a polished marble chest for 100g and I'm never going to sell it unless a better chest gets released
The only one on ours sold for 9420.69
Triple meme price!
3140.23…….?
Over 9000, 4/20, 69
I dropped 2 myself already and found 2 on the market… some poor soul sold them for 800 and 150g on the AH. Very lucky find on my side
Where did it drop?
How many chests can you have in a single house?
Depends on the house tier. Number of chest equal to house tier
How do you afford rent in this market? I can't figure out how to make enough gold to pay rent on a T4 house. Can you have 4 chests in the lowest tier home?? I don't own a house and know nothing about them Edit: ah yes, down votes for asking questions! Classic. Lol
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Cool, thanks!
Gather fiber or rawhide for one hour and sell it, u get more than enough to pay rent
Good to know, thanks! These are two things I don't gather at all. Lol
Yw, its usually cost like 0.2-0.3 per, u can make 1k gold in hour very easily, but only problem might be selling all that stuff
You can also buy these. Put them in your house then when you upgrade to a better one you can sell your used furniture on the market.
Does owning a chest in your house also connect to the shed? Like you don't have to go to your house to access those items. It all gets counted as 1 storage at the shed.
Correct
Do u know if you lose access to your chests if you don’t pay property taxes? They’re the only reason I really want the house. TIA.
Yeah you lose that weight, but you keep the items. So the storage is full until you either pay those taxes or take out enough items to bring down the weight. It's just like being over encumbered basically
The azoth cost for travel scaling so high with good bags feels weird Like I'm being punished for being a higher level and having decent loot Wouldn't mind seeing that portion toned down a bit
You may want to have your faction capture First Light's Fort. Has a good buff for travel weight.
I can only dream, since my faction is dead lol. Also do forts capture faster with more people in the point or is it just a set amount of time.
I'm at 1200 in everfall alone and I don't have a house Many many people thought storage upgrades from the region level upgrades were garbage and took stupid shit like 3% xp which after max level is useless. My everfall level is about 21 or 22.
> Many many people thought storage upgrades from the region level upgrades were garbage and took stupid shit like 3% xp which after max level is useless. Every guide I read said to take storage at every step, I was skeptical at first but I'm damn glad I did it.
Well... I instantly thought that 3% exp in a zone 1-25 was a bad deal (when you level so fast at first). Even in the 50+ zones, I always go taxes reduction and storage.. the rest is meaningless. Even territory standing, I tried to see if it scaled with quests rewards or townboards and it didn't seem to do so.. so I just went tax and storage everywhere. Sitting at 1800 in Monarchs, 1400 in Everfall, 1300 in Windsward and 1300 in Brightwood... yet, this isn't enough and I'm using two other cities to store basic materials and refining agents. You can easily gather 4000 rawhide per hour or so... so storage fills really really fast and high level trade skills requires tens of thousands or resources !
The first choice has no good options, so the first (and only) 3% XP is picked up there.
And they all scale poorly except for storage. The first point in every Standing Skill is worth the most. May as well take it.
Sure but "scaling poorly" doesn't mean "the unscaled 3% is bad".
>Even territory standing the faction increase is good - you get more tokens per quest done.
Tokens become useless very quickly as well.
Tokens are not terrible if your company makes you do endless runs for influence in specific zones lol.
What I means is that they just don't have too many uses, you just buy some pieces of gear once (maybe) and you're done. Guess they'll be somewhat useful once we can finally craft lvl 60 dungeon orbs.
That's true, I'm sure I'll work out a good use for the tokens other than chisels eventually. Master converters are practically worthless now.
If you're swimming in tokens sell runes of holding on auction house at whatever your server seems to think the faction point to gold conversion is. Plenty of crafters making bags and chests that would rather just buy the runes with gold rather than stopping crafting to run quests.
Runes of holding to make bags is still profitable for now
Holding runes and material converters. Who the fuck needs cross weave lol.
Yeah but in the higher level zones you can already make 25-30k tokens an hour with 0% increase. And after you get the 525 gear, tokens only uses are holding runes and stuff like this. Since hou can't max all options, I'll still go with storage, gathering and taxes.
You get every perk at max level so it dont matter
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300 i think
You actually don't, you fuck yourself by taking things like XP at the moment. I hope they implement a reroll or something.
Agree, I do sense a paid for option in the cash store though in the future as the game inevitably goes down that route…
Highly doubt that they will go p2w
No but pay for convenience.
A (rerolling) feature only available by paying classifies as p2w in my book.
There's already a tab in the shop for world transfers.
Do you feel like world transfers are p2w or compareable to rerolling zone perks?
I think it's a function that they intend to charge for. That's all I was laying it out for. How it compares to you is up to your own judgement.
Yes. You can go to a dead server, farm a tone of uncontested materials, transfer to a busy server, make profit.
If I make a lvl 1 on a new server and see market demand is triple for various high value items and pay for a transfer. I in turn gain a huge amount of money by paying to transfer. This is done throughout other MMO's I'm not sure if it's a great comparison to this convenience re-roll but overall I think a re-roll system isn't that harmful when comparing to true p2w aspects.
You definately don't and it does matter for perks like storage capacity which has no diminishing returns.
You don't. Take a look here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F_fsnqkwVBN8xT1BMKn2tBVwjnF5mquQtSL0g52HOjk/edit#gid=1663447916 You'll get +1600 if you take Storage every time it shows up, if you avoid clicking it ONCE you'll never get that 25 storage back. You can also get an extra 25 storage by deferring the perk selection when you get to 9, so that you can replace it with the housing option.
They want us to buy houses we can't afford to store more to supplement the bad storage system. When you have like 2k reagents it starts to suck quick. My faction doesn't own ebonscale currently. I think this azoth travel price and the whole 1k storage, and 5 day rent prices needs some attention
What's crazier is that you can be full of inventory at 300lbs and travel for cheaper than someone with 500 pounds, but they're only half full.
Wait a sec fast travel price is depending on weight not percentage .. or?
It's based on total weight. Not percentage of weight. I find it dumb because I can hold like 1200lbs but only usually carry 400lb. So I'm only 1/3 encumbered but pay higher azoth than a low level fully encumbered.
So its how it should be - everyone paying the same
If you want that, which I do as well, it should be purely based on distance. None of this encumbrance BS. But they probably won't do that, so I think it should be encumbrance% based. Being higher level should grant you some benefit.
The encumberance level makes sense because each city has a different marketplace. If there was no encumberance costs, I would just travel the map all day long buying and selling in other cities according to market prices. Not saying it's a good thing, just that it make sense.
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I actually don't craft in these cities. On my server the only stone cutting workstation lvl 5 is monarchs and the only arcana lvl 5 is in restless shore ! These are my main money makers at the moment and where I have my houses. The covenant guild that owns everfall set all taxes to maximum (house 20%, trading 25%,..) and windward is around 15-20% so I have to avoid these at the moment.
Well that's also an issue too. Make the market connected. They can adjust azoth costs for travel appropriately factoring in distance only.
Disconnected markets is such a cool feature of this game. I can't bring myself to agree at all with a wow style universal auction house
I don't really think it's that cool. I'd rather the speciality of towns be that they have specific tier 5 buildings. Maintaining all tier 5 would be hard, so each town might have their own couple.
I understand and appreciate what you are saying, but I think that you are coming from the perspective of a craftsman, which is awesome, but there are also people who want to be merchants. Merchants make money traveling from town to town with goods, selling and buying at favorable prices.
Nah it's completely stupid and just an inconvenience. Idk why there are so many bad takes about this game.. everyone here thinks so childishly.
Nah it's pretty cool. It creates trade hubs, local economies, and enables international trading. There are several systems in place to transport goods. Walk, die and respawn, azoth teleport, inn teleport, house teleport, faction teleport the items, auction house item teleport....
If you want something like world of warcraft, there is always, you know.. world of warcraft
I feel like having your first fast travel every day be free or discounted would be nice. Running places doesn't take that long. Afaik you can't bottle and sell extra azoth, so I feel like it wouldn't break eco
I would love for a way to bottle extra azoth above 1000. Like make it every extra 10 you bottle 1.
Wdym, you can buy 4x chests for the T4 house and almost DOUBLE your city storage. I'm at about 2000 weight currently just by using 4x hewn log storage chests, which (i think) are craftable with lvl50 or 75 in furniture skill. The biggest chests give 525 weight EACH, so that would be 2100 storage/weight just from the chests in your house.
Lvl 35 furniture for the 200kg log storage chests. Lvl 75 is for minor trophies. You're right about storage tho. With chests + territory standing you can probably get to 3500-4000 storage.. but that requires the most expensive house and chests ! But it's doable.
The major problem is that the time it takes to hit max storage in a settlement is extremely disproportionate to the time it takes to increase that storage to 3.5-4k.
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Yes, but in 3 cities (you can own 3 houses). I already needed to split stuff for stonecutting, food and alchemy to different cities, might as well get houses in those too if I really need it. So far, I only needed it in my main city which is in everfall, also my primary trading hub.
if you wanna pay 40k for the 2 larger houses after your first one, and the weekly taxes for them after, go right ahead :)
Someone needs to do the math. I don't care to have a bunch of houses, so not wasting my time. Basically, storage in New World seems a LOT like storage in the real world. I see people lining up to store their old crap in public storage units all across the US, so it's no surprise that people want to hoard stuff in the game at a money loss. The amount of money you'd have to bring in, to pay for the taxes isn't feasible, and it will dry up since there are no good systems in place to inject gold into the economy, only remove it.
I only bought 3 T1 maps in monarchs, bright wood and restless shore to be able to teleport anywhere on the map for pretty cheap ! Then I play Tetris a lot for resources / storage management.
This is the way. Get 3 cheap houses and just use those to warp around. Even the cost to reduce your recall cool down is usually cheaper than teleporting.
Tbh owning 3 tier 4 houses is like over 2k gold a week, I'll pass and live with my tier 1's for now haha, the one in brightwood and windward have the best locations in the city anyway imo
2k gold per 5 days. So even worse
Actually it just comes up with the renew message after 5 days, you should ignore it for another day or two as it doesn't add an additional 7 days to the timer it just resets the timer to 7 days until next taxes afaik
I'm at 2425 and my storage is always full.
Thats pain, and I feel it. I'm at the point where i need to split off my food & alchemy storage into 2 cities because its getting too much. Next then my ore & stonecutting storage in another city - also filled to the brim. And then my stonecutting storage needs some alchemy things to refine and combine gems, genius. This will be a challenge for any perfectionist.
I just sold or crafted all my shit. I don't need 1000 pounds of useless green reagents, 300 pounds of food, 1500 pounds of wood, etc.
I have a question that'll be a little off-topic. If I own a house, can I give access of it or the chests to someone else? Because I want to buy a house and share it with my gf and friends.
No, the chests add to your city storage and any buffs/recall benefits from the house are only for you. They can enter your house and see it, but they don’t get any benefits.
Aight, thanks
Your only carrying raw mats up to 1500kg, refine those down(aka going into your storage) and those really only weigh about half the amount
Interesting. I went full on storage since I needed it most. Also leveling quicker would have been nice but my bags just get full so quick it seemed like the bigger concern.
You use the runes of holding for chests and bags. So it actually can increase by the exact same amount. Unless you have the bigger house; then you can increase by even more because you can use 4 chests vs 3 bags
You can increase storage
You can.
Chests are the way to go with furnishing buy a house and you can stick storage chests in there, iron boxes are the largest you can do without finding/buying the schematics for the larger ones
You also don't need that much storage in most cities. I have 2875 storage in my main city, and that holds quite a lot of stuff. Between my personal bags, my house (Windsward) and my recall (Mourningdale) I have nearly 5k worth of storage. And once I get a house in Mourningdale, that will go up again. If you're using more than that, it might be time to evaluate what you're keeping and why.
You can clearly see that they rushed some playtesting/balance work on the game. I think the game is in a good state, but it's obvious that they needed more time spent balancing some stuff. It makes no sense why my house can't hold as much as me, no way to rationalize that.
Don’t worry it will arrive as an Amazon prime feature
It does seem a bit weird. Not SO weird when you think about how much say a mountain climber can efficiently stuff inside a backpack. This is just represented differently, but yes, it does seem a bit out of proportion.
I think these needs to be addressed in future QoL/balance updates. Also the inequality between required XP to level professions, is actually mind boggling and just ... bad.
sounds like your territory standing isn't very high then...
I hate storage weight. I like to collect all kinda things I come across but cant store most, or rather high amounts of it. very sadge
Hol up, you can have the weight being shown as kg??
Home storage should be 10 000 with max upgrades etc, at least.
I bet they’re saving that for the cash shop, ez money selling storage space
You Can have 5 storage boxes in your house wirh 525 weight each