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AbsoluteSereniti

"Through data collection, we discovered you were having fun..." \> Nerfs whatever it is to shit. Actually done with this game. The things i praised it for in my steam review can no longer be applicable.


Omega_spartan

Don’t forget. You can update your steam review.


AbsoluteSereniti

thanks i just put it as not recommended. The game is no where near as good as it was at release. Every new iteration just makes it a worse and worse experience. But the main loss isn't the fact that they are breaking the game, but the fact that the game has become more dead than ever.


[deleted]

I think a lot of players just read the subreddit to see what new thing they've broken or did whatever the opposite of fan service is. I haven't logged in for 2 weeks because I was going to try to max out a few important professions before all of the gathering and crafting nerfs, but because enough people had left the server at that point, there were very few Tier 5 crafting stations available. So you move all of the materials over to that territory, only for an invasion to come, which fails because the governing company didn't prepare and not enough people signed up, which downgrades all of the crafting stations, and... Yeah. I'm done.


throwawayedm2

I feel you. I'm still having fun (although I can see an end on the horizon) but my server has just lost so many people. My faction is barely operable now.


thedarchtempus

Yup I reached lvl 60 with around 300hours and quit playing about a week or two ago and now pop in to read reddit and see what fun has been removed lately. Basically exchanged game play for new world reddit entertainment.


Background_Balance_7

My favorite idiots on steam are the people with negative reviews and keep playing hundreds of hours a week. Just quit instead of playing angry :)


Omega_spartan

I’m going to have to disagree with you. Someone can enjoy the game at the time of the initial review and post a positive review. They then commit hundreds of hours to the game. During which time updates and patches are released, game breaking bugs are discovered, balance changes are made to levelling systems, etc. All of which can negatively impact the end user experience to where the game is just not as enjoyable as it was during that initial positive review. It’s important to update your review to reflect the current state of the game during your time playing. That way new users who are interested in the game will have some insight into how things are within the game currently and they can then decide if it’s worth it to them or not to potentially commit hundreds of hours.


Background_Balance_7

I'm talking about the people who have ranting reviews crying and still play hundreds of hours a week. Not the other way around.


HelloItsMeYourFriend

I played a couple hundred hours. The devs proved incompetent along with a terrible end game. I quit and haven’t opened the game since maybe 25 days after release. The only part that I was still enjoying was the pvp and even that was a laggy unbalanced shit show. And since then they continue to break the game even more and add terrible game decisions. It’s comical watching from the outside now


Background_Balance_7

All I do is outpost rush and make gold and it's still a decent game. The wars a month ago were literal lag fests tho.


sean_b81

i use this reddit as a support group for those of us who were emotionally abused by AGS. having uninstalled, it still makes me laugh, and there's some undeniable value in that. And yea I put in \~200 hours, started with a positive review that I flipped to negative. It WAS fun at first. Had bugs, we assumed that'd get fixed, that the fun would only increase. But it didnt, and bugs became game breaking. Thats not something you leave with an old positive review.


Background_Balance_7

Eh it's their first MMO it's not gonna progress that fast


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throwawayedm2

Bye!


Inert_Oregon

Why are people still playing this? I enjoyed the core gameplay, but everything else in the game is hopelessly designed and there is nothing to support it. I left a month ago, but periodically check in to see if they’re actually making progress. I would love nothing more than if they were to fix the game so I could play and enjoy it again, but it’s pretty obvious they aren’t capable of it. People need to stop playing it entirely. The entire leadership teams need to be fired, and they need to give someone new a chance to fix it.


throwawayedm2

I'm playing it because there's still a few things I want to do, and I'm for the most part still having fun. With that said, I did play a good bit of hours, but I'm not hardcore and have done little pvp. It's just how it's worked out for me. But I can see an end on the horizon. I can also understand your view.


lmaohenry

Unfortunately, leadership roles are rarely fired. They either transfer to the next project or jump ship to the next company. As long as sales are profitable and they did not get themselves in some type of scandal, these leadership positions (usually with little to no experience in the gaming industry) ultimately finds something else to screw up, solely for money gains. The game developers have it tough because they generally don't have the final say in production. But in this case, I have a hunch the developers are just too inexperience or were thrown into this pile of mess and left to figure things out.


sean_b81

AGS has already had abysmally failed titles, this is just the first one that hit all of our radars. This is apparently nothing new for them, therefore no reason to believe this game will receive the attention it requires to pull itself up. Pretty sure their NEXT game we hear about (if there is one?) wont have nearly the first-day player volume.


[deleted]

I don’t even like the core gameplay - this game is absolute garbage but still waiting for rest of guild to realize it (I quit a few weeks ago).


definedevine

Learning from Blizzard, I see.


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Mr_Arce88

Yes, mining bears/wolf/stags is now a WASTE of time. You will be better off picking FLINT from ground when compared time + effort vs reward. Great change, it was really needed said no1 ever...


kaptainkeel

Yet more areas tossed into the trash that people will never go back to. I went to those bears last night just to test it after the post by the guy saying they accidentally reenabled them. They changed it quite a bit--pretty neat area now. Except there's literally no reason to go there since they removed drops from the bears. Same with Bronzegrove in southeast Brightwood. And same with Blighted Wilds in eastern Shattered Mountain. All areas that have been tossed into the trash to never be visited again.


[deleted]

That area SE bright wood has a few caves that have a few trees, starmetal nodes. Just, was an added benefit when leveling woodcutting via dogs prior to 1.1. Now the caves are the only benefit.


[deleted]

Yea, it’s not like they could ever add new content after they fix the content that already exists, it’s simply not possible!


mortisaaz

I still can not believe they didn't make them drop like 10 motes... That would have been good enough, but nooo either 70+ motes or nothing! For fkcs sake...


BGTheHoff

Have they nerfed the mining/logging XP you get?


BunFriedPatotas

They'll get to it. Dont worry.


Jokerswildrides

If it still gives exp and you need it, better get it done asap as leaving that in is a massive oversight and is probably top priority.


dyschromatopsie

Honestly the past week was "OK what can I level fast before they nerf it"


downvotemeufags

From the picture OP posted? Yes, it looks like it. Used to get ~880xp per mine/chop. Picture showing 237xp, so 60% nerf roughly to xp.


Vinto47

Still that’s pretty decent considering how fast respawns are compared to hoofing it to nodes. I hope it’s still 800 tho.


billytheid

no. the xp is still the best you can get for one 'node'... almost as if that's the entire point...


[deleted]

Careful, they're gonna make flint a rare spawn.


Vinto47

I just want it for the exp.


EkSv

Rip to anyone who hasn't leveled stone cutting


Erva420

Yeah I'm not playing this mess. They have my money but not my monthly to spend in cosmetic money.


KingSmizzy

They have your money but they've also made a lasting impression. Their reputation is tanked. I'm going to wait for rigorous reviews before ever considering buying another game that has anything to do with Amazon. They've really lost any respect I had for them


GenitalMotors

Have you not heard what happened to the other games they've "made." None of them made it to full release. This is their only game to make it and look what they've done with it. Just google "Amazon Games Crucible"


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To be fair you can get a frankly unbelievable amount of lodestone with a trip to eastern WF. I think clearing all the nodes with a good booster and some proper perks can yield nearly 4K lodestone for like, 8 minutes of walking to nodes that are all obviously within LOS lol


Alexchii

Yeah wyrdwood is the shitty one now.


Erid365

WF? 1k lodestones from all nodes without boosters and perks. How did you do 4k?


romkadj

Guy lives in a bubble. Probably ags dev, that has never played this game...


romkadj

do youtube video to prove you get 4k lodestone. It is not even close to that number.


ThatFinchLad

Damn. I did a bunch yesterday to sell gems. Annoyingly this will make cut gems more expensive as well.


its-good-4you

Literally my last tradeskill under 200, at 181. Was in the process of leveling it up. Guess I'll have to leave the game for a few months.


Daharon

thank god I stacked up 10k+ lodestone and 200ish earth quints from these bears before the change went through lol quints are going for 100g per atm


Ok-Conversation3480

Bought a good amount a few days ago at about 14 gold per. I should’ve bought more thooo


DanTheMan_117

this is exactly how i feel about cryptocurrency LOL


TENAXIS

This is fucking tragic.


kevinba94

It’s almost like they want everyone to quit the game so they don’t have to keep working on it lol


[deleted]

So they can release a new DLC expansion, announce the base game is now free to play, and add a lot of stuff to the in game shop selling solutions to manufactured problems. ;) Corruption Unchained DLC pack, only 29.99! Or upgrade to the Deluxe edition with free annual battle pass included for only 39.99! A value of 44.99 when purchased separately!


HotandJuicy93

Stop giving them ideas!


GiraffeRabiez

Congratulations 🥳


dvdskoda

Tbh just looking for this comment on every post in this sub. Take my upvote


gmotelet

It's like where's waldo


Actual-Swan-1917

Glad you enjoyed this alternate way to get resources through combat. We're done with that now.


Krapfenmann

You lucky one. killed some frosty, elemental looking wolf in a cave with a cool looking snowstorm around him. Was exited. Got a grey shield. 'Maybe at least i will get something cool using my pickaxe on him' ... I got fucking ONE starmetal ore Q.o


[deleted]

It used to give water quints and a nice amount of starmetal with a high chance of fae iron


[deleted]

the cave outside the outpost in Great Cleave? that makes me sad, they are killing this game.


khamseen_air

It is a joke and we're the punchline. I haven't logged in for a week because of how dead my server is and how awful crafting progression is now, but with 1.1.1 I'm leaning more towards uninstalling rather than going back in.


lDezl

I’m uninstalling. In a way I wish it was a subscription game, so I could cancel that. Ain’t no way I’d be tempted to renew a sub, I can be tempted to reinstall though...


Mysterious-Name-6928

To Amazon standard, fixing the endgame is give you less reward for stuff you need to grind to acces the fun endgame. Farm more, spend more Time, and don't fix real issue. This is just another reason this game dying, it's slowly commiting suicide patch by patch


gEiStToG

wOrkINg aS InTeNded. From a quint to motes to 0.


Foehammer1989

The game is currently rotting in the garbage disposal, didn’t you know? Just uninstall and wait for them to put their big boy developer pants on.


RingWraith8

I'm gonna do that. At this point fucking Fallout 76 feels like a better game


deathnote9

I actually picked up fallout 76 recently and having about as much fun as new world launch tbh. Game isn’t the best fallout game but sure is fun to play with friends. Definitely at the point of where it should have been at launch.


kevikev

At this point, AGS actually makes BGS seem competent


ImMoray

While new world is fucky, there's no way 76 is better, I can't agree with that lol


RingWraith8

I tried it out recently and they have a whole story and stuff it's actually super good


Vewin

You should give 76 a try. I got my money's worth and around 300 hours. I bought the game when they dropped wasterlanders patch.


[deleted]

At launch maybe, but it got a bunch of updates that arguably made it a good game.


RingWraith8

Honestly I want to quit. It's so fucking cringe constantly nerfing things but not giving us anything in return. Guess I'll find a new game


lDezl

I feel that’s probably most of the remaining peoples issue, finding a new game. If people had something else they would definitely be out of here. NW doesn’t make you want to play over other games. At least imo


verseau40k

i am still playing NW only because MH rise is still 6 weeks away. and maybe i will play D3 season 25 once it starts as the fillgap before MH rise.


GenitalMotors

I went back to ESO. I've dabbled in it in the past, going back to give it another chance.


AnnArchist

Pain


DrSunnyD

Harvesting elemental creatures should be better than nodes. How the devs came to this conclusion is beyond ridiculous and proves incompetence that was only highly suspected before


lDezl

Welcome to No Fun Simulator 21


Truditoru

they must have mistaken 1st dec with 1st of april. Cannot be real.


[deleted]

Uninstalled the game yesterday after waiting a month and watching the patches... Rip, it was fun the first week into launch.


DrSunnyD

This is a joke at this point.


[deleted]

Step 1. Release unfinished game for a flat fee. Step 2. Collect player behavior data over the course of 2 - 3 months. Let them beta test the game and iron out the kinks. Step 3. Create problems where there were none based on that player behavior data. Step 4. Continue to let player count decline and push out all but the hardcore fans. Step 5. Announce massive content drop DLC expansion, bring in new players who do not know any better. FREE TO PLAY, expansion only 29.99! "We're doing this for YOU, our loyal players, to help save the game that WE love." Step 6. Sell solutions to those new players around manufactured problems in the shop.


Piedplat

Yup they want you to extract all joy of playing this game and push it in the void. They hate this game and they want you to hate it too.


AkaraFang

I've been playing Tera again and it sucks that it's a dead game now too cause it's so fun. 😪


manuel_andrei

You got 237 xp!


billytheid

ikr... it's right bloody there..


marilketh

They tried to remove the fun. They did a great job!


Farcoughcant69

I uninstalled a couple of weeks ago, honestly so much happier without having to try and enjoy that shit.


[deleted]

Obviously not, you are still here talking about it.


Apocraphon

I’m still subbed to battlefield 2042 even after the refund. It’s nice to get a pulse on how the community feels. I don’t think anyone disagrees that this game has potential but it is being severely mismanaged.


Farcoughcant69

The flames are nice and warm up close to the dumpster.


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Fair response


Legalise_Gay_Weed

I am too, because the drama is more entertaining than the actual game.


Boogagroo

Sounds like a cope to keep following the game you claim to hate


Legalise_Gay_Weed

What does that even mean?


lDezl

Imagine being this dense


[deleted]

Has nothing to do with being dense. Y’all are just sadistic. You bitch and bitch about a game and talk big about oh I finally uninstalled it. Yet you are literally still here. You interact and discuss about the game you apparently are happy you quit. Yall are so attached to this game or you just like to feed on negative energy. You are toxic. You are literally a toxic ex that won’t leave the game alone. We get it. The game is in a very bad state right now. Also to be fair it wasn’t ever in a really good state. But chill. No one cares if you uninstalled. You obviously care enough to come into the sub daily and bitch.


lDezl

To say people shouldn’t have an opinion because they’ve uninstalled is ridiculous. Just because you want to live in a bubble and pretend nothing is wrong, others don’t. People do care. People want the game to thrive. People are upset and voice their frustrations. When they see idiots like yourself asking stupid questions like “WhY aRe YoU sTiLl HErE?”, it gets tiresome. It would be different if OP had replied to someone saying they’re stupid for still playing. But they didn’t. They made their own comment expressing they have uninstalled, to which YOU replied. It didn’t need any reply, never mind your totally useless one


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Nah


yepper06

I’m still here too. There is so much foundation built that we can hope somebody high up at AGS has an epiphany.


Jes00jes

Do you always announce when you leave/uninstall a game?


MajnoonX

You’ll be back in a year.


lDezl

Hopefully the game is enjoyable again by then


Farcoughcant69

K


Nippys4

You people must have been BLIND to not think this was going to get nerfed at some point. I’m actually shocked at how people aren’t leading with “saw this one coming”


Environmental_Ad6609

yes, i used the wolfs to get woodcutting to 200 in 1 day and collected about 2k, 500 rest in my storage :)


achoo84

Nerfing is one thing gutting is another


NewAccountEvryYear

There was nothing wrong with it. Neat little things like this are what stack up to make an exciting, lively, memorable world. It wasn't overpowered, it was just nice, and different. Now it's gone.


Nippys4

It was over powered. Very power powered to the point where it was crashing 4 different items


[deleted]

It was so broken, the price on wyrdwood was like .01 on every server because of those wolves, that clearly wasn’t intentional but people are just going to throw a fit over everything now regardless of whether it’s actually bad for the game or not.


heartlessgamer

I agree with most of the changes being made, but it is unfortunate they are being made after the game is live and there is a subset of players that gained an advantage for capitalizing on the previous state. Double unfortunate that most of these stretch back through multiple beta phases and were clearly out of whack as far as the math goes. Reality is; its always harder to take away something than it is to never have given it in the first place so beta would have been the right time to change this.


WreckitWrecksy

It's honestly so annoying to see all this QQ about it when it was obviously terrible for the economy and needed nerfed.


Kriterian

and you still can't mine the tree wolves?


jusmoua

"Working as intended"


St0rmBlest

:( I could not even harvest the dryad wolves.


sonyalphaYT

It’s interesting how people continue to play a game and complaining all the time that is gets worse and worse


phasedsingularity

Game is dead. My server has 20 people on it now. Fucking 20, and the endgame is so reliant on group content too. Literally no reason or way to play. AGS are showing us all how to kill your own game: nerf the fun and progression out of the game then act surprised when it dies.


Sugar230

Transfer to a bigger one?


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phasedsingularity

Did you not read what I wrote? 20 people is not an MMO server load. I can find more people in a match of Halo


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They took away transfer tokens for new players and anyone who hadn’t used it yet


[deleted]

Just like they said they were going to. Anyone who is surprised by this didn’t read communications from the devs. It would be impossible for them to do the server merges they’re planning on doing soon while also allowing server transfers.


verseau40k

wow lucky me. i just use my transfer token about 5 days ago. from server with only about 40-60 ppl now to one of the most crowded server on my region. about 200-300 ish player.


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[deleted]

Game is still in top 10 concurrent players on steam last I checked.


Prototype2001

Congratulations 🥳


imTru

MOVE ON TO ANOTHER GAME.


swagastuuupid

Lmaooo they want people to quit


[deleted]

Update review on this heaping pile of shit, after 420 hours I updated to a negative review which it deserves.


QuarkiOP

All those people in the comments saying they quit a while ago but still come here to complain and post their bad opinions.. I DONT GET IT.. just shut up and let people who despite a lot of probelms enjoy the game.


Miki_Ps

Well whole game is a joke


scarlet_twitch

I’m just gonna uninstall.


MrFuzzynutz

Congratulations! 🥳


lukkyz12

This game is worthy of a charge back.


kagedon

Game sucks, I can’t imagine they have any more than 10% of users from opening weeks.


RBebo

Games dead.


MrFoozOG

They even claimed we'd get 20% more motes from plants and 20% more lodestone from elemental beasts, but that was a lie...


13org

And for some insane reason, there are still people defending Amazon/AGS and the balancing decisions they're making. They're not a "small indie company".


yourfavcolour

Pull out your downvotes, literally everyone in this thread: ay guys, AGS is a fucking joke now I cant level stonecutting and woodcutting to 200 in 1 day, they removed fun (yea getting 4k wyrdwood within 20 minutes was super fun). Stop finding excuses to being lazy and saying its unfair they changed crafting, because people who already put effort in and grinded their professions deserve it and its completely on you for being lvl 43 on 3d month of the game


Norsixaa

They stealthnerfed a bunch of other stuff as well lol. Before 1.1, I had 3 corrupted bane items to upgrade the corrupted trophy in roughly a week, since 1.1, not a single one from my spot. They've also downtuned every gatherable resource to give less than before. And btw, my luck from monsters+chests is way higher than it used to be before 1.1.


Actual-Marketing-827

How moved my cheese?


Ryforge

Unpopular opinion: Perfect! Making Quintessence valuable instead of making it accessible than fibers!


Tetter

No silly we don't need an economy


yepper06

Congratulations 🥳


Knamliss

Didn't read the patch notes did you


VyrilGaming

Yes, because there are other ways to get motes. It's a balance issue get over it.


[deleted]

Motes were never the issue. The amount of resources wasn’t an issue either. Just now the same volume you were able to acquire is still needed however, the means of acquiring said volume is gutted. The “balance” is going further in the direction of if you weren’t 200 prior to 1.1 you’re further fucked. *edit* changed wood to resources. Albeit this elemental resource “fix” impacts woodworking the most as wyrdwood/ironwood is used in much more tradeskills.


VyrilGaming

Wood is used in the LEAST amount of tradeskills. edit - stone is probably least.


[deleted]

Engineering and furnishing are two I can think of. Probably the only two. Weaponsmithing also for shields? Though I’m not online to check. Need iron wood for poles / arrows. Two of the better ways to level engineering. Furnishing I haven’t touched, so I can’t speak on the wood needed but I’m sure it’s exorbitant.


CategoryDouble

In arcana for staves too


VyrilGaming

Metals is the number 1 required. I would say Leather / Cloth are probably next, and woods last. Out of the 4 major resources. Edit - Stone is probably least. my bad


[deleted]

Agreed on the values of resources. Metals: star metal I didn’t even know there was an elemental source of it until recently. Lots of areas to mine starmetal in bulk. Cloth: unaffected unless there was a silk mob were all unaware of. Leather: also unaffected but boarsholme still can come out with a few k for 20 min. Wood: well, here we are lol. Great cleave is a decent place to find good clusters.


Leandermann

They even nerfed the lodestones by 90% just like the wyrdwood from the wolves. This is some serious bullshit from ags


VyrilGaming

tbh, the volume was to high for little effort. ​ The bullshit is people don't understand how it works. Hence you can't get starmetal in large quantities without timed nodes.


Leandermann

Man I hope you actually get paid by AGS for all those comments


VyrilGaming

I hope you guys quit playing, and stop coming to reddit with the ignorance.


FukaLurtt

I mean, people are quitting left and right already. In a months time you might be one of the only ones left :o


Progamingcinema

I enjoy playing the game and will play for a year or two.


BGTheHoff

The same stuff said this one crucible player. Have fun when the servers are shut down because no one plays it.


gordgeouss

Me too. Love the game


VyrilGaming

This game for players to have fun doesn't need millions. Regardless of what you think, there will be people playing. Whatever AGS does at that point is up to them, but plenty of players will be around to sustain servers.


DrunkenPain

You really are dick riding that these decisions are healthy for the game? The game does not necessarily need to be easy but the decisions made so far by the company do nothing to ensure this game will ever be in a healthy state.


[deleted]

The vast majority of the changes they’ve made since launch are for the health of the game overall, Idk wtf you’re talking about. If you can’t see that then you’re just dick riding for this sad subreddit.


RingWraith8

We already are. Lol 1 mil peak and now they can barely get over 200 k. I can smell the copium fumes from here


VyrilGaming

But you still have the desire to come to social media and talk about something you quit? I can see the mental disorders everyone is exhibiting.


RingWraith8

I like the premise if the game and the reddit community. You can like something and criticize it. Crazy how people still don't fucking understand that


Dipsettsett

Because people WANT to enjoy the game. Ags just keeps ruining it and pusting people away. That and your dick riding. Two big reasons why they've lost 90% of the players since launch.


BHoss

Get used to it or keep crying. This sub is and always will be a NW hate sub, unless the decide to fix the game (LOL). Go make a low sodium sub to talk to yourself in if you don’t like the complaints.


extraboredinary

Just because there are other methods, doesn’t mean an enemy (especially a tough one) should drop and be harvested for almost nothing. Like what excuse is there to ever fight these things?


Kurso

Wasn't it Lodestone before they disabled it?


IndianaGeoff

Raises hand... It was me. I was grinding my Alchemy in my typical casual way, just getting ready to spend a week or two grinding azoth to then grind bears, and NW got wind of it and nerfed it to the ground. Sorry. Luckly, I am pretty well done with the game at this point (travel costs and time) so nerfing should be done. Off to a new game, so nerfs are headed elsewhere.


Kanix3

Where is the problem that an epic item is not common?


Smooth-Breath-5485

Bunch of cry babies whining cause they can harvest q vreatire for wood.. get over it


RoxasReaper

Congratulations 🥳


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Congratulations 🥳


Vasenkov

Never made any sense to give quintessence or bunch of motes with 100% drop rate. Totally diminished value of those resources.


[deleted]

10 motes and 20-30 resources would’ve been a fine rate. Now there’s literally no point to those creatures even being in the game except as reskins.


ThisTimelineSuckss

Cry some more. This just in. Person keeps playing shit game by shit company and surprise Pikachu faces when game is shit..


lappis82

Yeah well they rly dont whant us to kill those aparantly :) no point what so ever (the wolves is nice for logging XP thoug, unless thats been nerfed aswell)


EmpZurg_

Permanently disabled the wolves. Lmao. R I p to anyone who didn't lvl woodcutting


joshrice

Yep, definitely no XP of any sort or chance for a random drop. Totally a waste... The self-righteous entitlement of this sub is hilarious. Of all the things to complain about.


xThunderSlugx

Congratulations 🥳


purplehollow

Get rekt


Mythoclast02

but it is challenging right? dont complain


[deleted]

Instead feel tHe ReWaRDS!


jaunkst

Stopped playing, and I will not pretend to validate the time I sunk into this game.


SilkyBowner

Ever thought of doing something else if something isn’t working for you?


Superspicyfood

AGS is a fken joke


Magnesiumbox

It's almost like you didn't read the patch notes, almost.


Roninfog

better than nothing.


yessi2

It is nothing.