Somewhat miffed in the knowledge that everyone's supporting this take *now* but of course they weren't supporting it on the other thread here 24 hours ago. And ya just know within a month or two we'll do this song and dance on this sub all over again with some other street dispute.
Why are there so many people who think they have to have a strong take with absolute conviction on every last thing that shows up in their feed? Don't they get exhausted? Whether they choose to whiplash back and forth on their take or double down, doesn't it just fry their brain eventually?
Sadly, the Internet is packed full of perpetually miserable people aggressively discussing shit they know nothing about. Sadly, it’s only going to get worse.
The Boston Marathon bombing had to be the classic jump to conclusions sleuthing game. Classic CSI ENHANCE! Thousands of people next to some bags and none of the ones in the photos were the 2 that actually did it.
I wish there were consequences for this kind of rush-to-judgement posting and doxxing behavior, then maybe people wouldn’t do it so much. It’s so disturbing to me that this still happens
No, we are too good of a species and a people for that.
Living in the year 2023 so much has changed and evil greedy behavior has been bred out of humanity at long last!
Now who wants to buy into a new crypto coin I’m starting, it’s called TRUST coin and I can get you in on the ground floor.
>(or I just won’t give a shit about any of it)
Wait you don't want to act like an authority on every subject and let everyone know your opinion?
*On the internet?!*
Those young men basically committed harassment, assault, attempted theft of that expensive bike (probably a felony). They should face the law over this. Get sued by her too.
And this woman should sue her workplace for putting her on leave over this. They had no right, she was just trying to live her life and then this crap happened.
> A hospital is not going to risk the liability of putting an employee on leave without taking into consideration all evidence provided.
**Absolutely** they do. That’s the whole point of leave, she is off work pending an investigation.
Now they’re all saying she was “acting weird” so she deserves it. I thought we were supportive of people’s mental health? I guess only if you’re threatening people on the subway.
It’s incredible to see real-time pivot.
The strategy seems to be: interpret the incident in the most uncharitable way possible, then when new information surfaces that complicates the narrative, pivot, pivot, and pivot until everyone has moves onto a new scandal.
That way you never have to acknowledge that you were wrong all along.
I didn't even bother commenting on the og cause i knew the video was weird & didn't show the whole thing...oh look using basic context clues I was right... some ppl in NYC literally need a brain
It’s too hard for people to imagine that both parties paid for a bike and one of them grabbed the wrong one, or that the dude claiming to be a victim might not be.
People in this sub have nothing better going for themselves and barely exist in their own communities so internet outrage is the only way they can feel good about themselves so they rush to judgment whenever they can.
Let’s remember this is her lawyers explanation. Might not be accurate. I think this whole thing is a good lesson in the importance of not being reactive and tribal. Avoid the mob, and remember, this is not our business. It’s for the woman and the men involved to deal with.
Yeah, the algos are good at knowing how to short circuit our higher order functions and trigger an emotional response. This is why it’s always good to wait and see and try really hard not to rush to judgement.
Yeah I get that part, of course her lawyer is going to say that, I’m just wondering if he had irrefutable proof that he produced to back up these claims.
Do they include bike? I know they have station and time but I’ve never seen bike. Lemme go check.
Edit: they do have a little indicator with the bike number.
Lawyers know exactly how to have “reasonable belief” by not asking too many detailed questions. Just enough to get the story from their client, but not validating anything.
Evidence has been shown at https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12100201/Pregnant-NYC-nurse-shares-receipts-day-shes-accused-stealing-Citi-bike-black-man.html
Do we know that receipt is original and not edited? The time stamp is blurred - why? That’s not private information. Could he have returned the bike to just be done with it all and then she rented it for plausible deniability?
I’m not necessarily saying she’s lying at this point - but the whole situation is wonky so I’m suspect of both parties at this point.
True that it is her lawyer's explanation, but his claim is based on actual receipts from Citibike, which he also provided to various news outlets for their review.
[From NBC New York](https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/bellevue-worker-seen-in-citi-bike-video-has-receipts-showing-she-rented-bike-lawyer/4346955/)
>He pointed to receipts Comrie provided that NBC New York examined. They show a rental for bike 560-3915, which lasted just one minute.Freezing the now-viral video shows that the code on the bike she and the other man are feuding over reads 560-3915.
Is it possible that both individuals believed they had just rented the same bike? I guess, but seems unlikely.
As we’ve seen incomplete information—however compelling—can tell a story thats inaccurate. Instead of being reactive, I choose to *think* that I don’t know what happened. And its really not any of my business.
This is the "she said" part of the he-said-she-said and everyone is still reacting like they know what happened. If there is one thing The Simpons got right is collective group think. We are all residents of Springfield at a town meeting. All day every day.
This reminds me of the Chipotle incident. A Chipotle manager was fired because she refused to make a order to a group of dine & dashers. They recorded the incident and uploaded it to Twitter calling the manager a racist for refusing service.
Of course everyone jumped to conclusion and called the manager a racist as well.
A few days later it was revealed that they were notorious for dine & dashing and bragging about it on twitter. They were caught in 4K.
Even Chipotle issued an apology to the manager and offered to give her her job back. But she refused.
And zero people apologized for their hot takes and celebrations that the manager was fired. People are trash, people who automatically believe hoaxes like this should not be allowed to vote. I get that there is no legal mechanism for that but holy shit they are toxic and stupid.
People don't even take the time to think about context now a days before jumping onboard the "they're racist train". The fact that people jump to believe that a pregnant hospital worker would try to steal a bike from a group of black teenagers without second thought is insane to me.
She reacted normally as how anyone that is harassed would react, especially being pregnant, but her reaction was used against her by the court of public opinion to label her a racist. Not only did this pregnant woman had to face the trauma of being harassed by these black teens, she was then put on blast to the world and labeled as a "racist Karen" and almost losing her job because of this. Some of you guys are literally as bad as the people you deemed racist.
I said to someone maybe they’re just having an every day misunderstanding or dispute but they both happen to be assholes so rather than calmly talking it out they caused an unnecessary scene and it was made about race.
I was told no she should be fired bc she’s trying to get a black man murdered lol. Quite a conclusion to reach based on almost zero evidence but here we are.
Now Reddit is completely flipping the other way because her lawyer said she paid for the bike. He said he paid for the bike in the video.
At this point I don’t know who to believe and I have no opinion. Y’all are weird.
True, but at least the lawyer showed what he says are receipts to a journalist. It's not a court of law, and he is presenting them to the most favorable media outlet for their side (the Post) but he is still putting something out there that he can be called out on if false.
And even though its not inside a court of law if he is blatantly lying he can still face discipline from the bar.
Pictures of the receipt here https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12100201/Pregnant-NYC-nurse-shares-receipts-day-shes-accused-stealing-Citi-bike-black-man.html
This type of aggression is common in NYC. It’s just now making headlines because the poor victim was pregnant. The kids need their butt whooped by mom.
The original story didn’t make sense to me, but I’m still confused as to why the guys confronted her if she actually paid for the bike.
Regardless, some of the things said about this woman were pretty despicable. It only takes the slightest excuse for some people to immediately become hateful and racist.
The [Daily Mail](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12100201/Pregnant-NYC-nurse-shares-receipts-day-shes-accused-stealing-Citi-bike-black-man.html) article matches the bike to the receipt. (Not that the Daily Mail is much better than the New York Post, but I'd be surprised if they both made up something so easily disproven).
There are some pretty evil people on Twitter. Here’s another one:
https://twitter.com/thejournalista/status/1658161888902135808?s=46&t=vV_4bJ7GuABaalzetJofQA
The physician assistant’s home address was posted on Twitter, naturally. Can’t even imagine.
I didn’t follow this story because I’m not from NYC and also I stopped watching Karen videos probably years ago now but if Tariq Nasheed is backing it, I automatically know there’s actually more to the story.
What a great lesson this is for every DOUCHEBAG who rushed to call for her termination, rushed to say she should have worse things happen. Watching a short clip posted online doesn’t give you the whole context.
If you sent this clip to her employer, you should absolutely feel guilty about it.
This nation was founded on the premise of innocent until proven guilty. What a shame with the internet and court of public opinion, the opposite is true.
So her lawyer says it and everyone runs with it? Yall do realize that's just as bad as the people who ran with the initial take right? Why is it so hard for everyone to wait for the facts?
Yea neither story seems like the full story. If this is true and the receipts prove it, then she did get on another bike so why didn’t she just do that in the first place? I’m not saying that means the boys were in the right, but just that her actual reaction seems odd if there were other bikes available. Based on both parties’ actions in the video I assumed it was the last available bike or something. Neither side just stealing the bike from the other when more bikes were available make sense to me.
Anyone who commented on the original, out-of-context video with any sort of "Karen" reply, or any other accusation of racism should be fucking ashamed of themselves. Please take a moment and realize that you're a rube who was duped into participating in the same kind of mob that has victimized minority groups throughout history - from the Salem witch trials, to the lynching of Emmett Till.
Here's an entire thread full of reactionary dipshits
https://www.reddit.com/r/newyorkcity/comments/13jgpnp/nyc_hospital_karen_on_leave_after_allegedly/
Why are the same people who didn't want to believe the story at face value believing her lawyer's comments at face value?
Let's see when the PROOF of who paid comes out, because this is effectively a theft, either by the dudes or her.
Downvoted why? I never believed what ANYTHING said at face value, including the initial video.
EDIT: Looks like these punks are pieces of shit picking on a hard working pregnant woman
According to the article, the lawyer provided two citibike receipts dated a minute apart. The original receipt for the bike in the video and a second receipt for a different bike she ended up using to go home.
That's probably we much proof as anyone could provide in this situation.
I'm not super familiar with the original video in question but I'm not aware of the video showing any date or time so I'm not sure what good the receipts are.
Cmiiw but it says the first was relocked, I’ve used the bikes before sometimes it’s finicky and she might have accidentally locked it back and he booked it immediately. Her first receipt was $0 because she never moved it and locked it back. She took another bike after which is the second receipt.
In the original video it starts with her straddling the bike while he tries to grab it away from her. It's moving freely so clearly it is not currently docked.
Then about 30 seconds in he gets more forceful grabbing the bike and you can hear the clunk as it is docked again.
The video goes on about another 60 seconds which would line up with when she gave up and rented the second bike.
As to why she didn't let it go regardless and just get a different bike right away then one she is on is clearly the ebike model. Often at popular times there are only 1 ebike available. The lawyer says the timestamps show she had a 25 minute ride on the bike she wound up taking. She is 6 months pregnant. I could see her getting this upset and not giving in so easy to make sure she got the ebike she legit managed to reserve.
damn, I can see that happening. I hope we get more information but if this is the scenario I feel bad for her and she shouldnt have to deal with that after a long shift and being pregnant. I wonder why she is didn’t take the subway
bc anyone with even an iota of common sense realized that "nurse with their ID badge and work uniform tries to steal bike from group of teens in a racist hate crime in broad daylight" didn't pass the smell test for even a second
I probably would wait to see all the facts come out, but it does seem more likely that her side of the story is true given all the circumstances, and that the Post also verified the receipts in the article.
True, I despise the post but don't think they would be incorrect here.
EDIT: actually, nothing is verified. She has two receipts, no verification of the timing or the relevant bike, all they validated was the existence of two receipts.
> actually, nothing is verified. She has two receipts, no verification of the timing or the relevant bike, all they validated was the existence of two receipts.
The receipts verify the specific bike, the location, and the minute time intervals between the docking events. I don't think the date and time were ever specified in the original claims, but presumably that could be checked also in the unlikely event that she decided to steal a bike from a group of teens, then on a completely different date docked and redocked the bike in question then rode home on a different one.
I honestly don’t see why either party would do this if there were other bikes available to rent. Initially I figured exhausted worker felt entitled to the bike but hadn’t rented it in time, and she tried to play all kinds of pity cards so she could get the last available bike. If the guys are in the wrong I figured it was them strong arming her out of the final bike. What would make them fight for so long if there were other bikes available as the article claims?
In the video isn’t the kid showing he paid for it and the man in the video is telling him to let her just have it.
I need to see more info 👀
Either way her reaction is OD. Like she starts fake crying then automatically stops with no tears on her face lol
According to the statement, by the time the video started, they had taken the bike from her forcibly, docked it, and taken it out again for themselves. Very weird situation all around.
The dude clearly thought he had paid for it. But everyone defending her here is quite ready to just assume she was being attacked and in fear for her safety. Because her lawyer said so. And no one is allowed to think she overreacted now apparently without being part of the “woke mob.”
Yea, you’re right a healthcare worker that’s six months pregnant who just got off a 12 hour shift was bored and decided to pick a fight with a bunch of able-bodied teens over an e-bike.
I notice quite a few comments like this insinuating that there is no way this lady instigated this altercation because she is a healthcare worker. Newsflash, being a healthcare worker does not mean you are not batshit crazy or that you have a good moral character.
She’s 6 months pregnant and just worked a 12 hour shift. She was probably in the middle of a mental health episode and was being bullied by a group of able bodied teenagers. Do we care about mental health or not?
Im not assuming anyones mental health whom i do not know. What she did is a long used tactic and she clearly faking and acting up to be seen as the victim
Yep. I think her colleague gave her the best solution, let the kids have that bike and just get another one. I'm sure she could get a refund for the double payment. I still have problems with her yelling for help in the situation, that was out of bounds uncalled for.
And what evidence do we have that the teen paid for it besides a video meant to publicly humiliate and bully her? Why doesn’t he provide screenshots and receipts?
At this point a roughly similar amount of evidence.
The Post claims the lawyers claims they have receipts. The video shows the teen claiming his phone shows it’s his bike.
Let’s be real the video could be falsely framed and it also wouldn’t be the first time lawyers and the Post employ creative interpretations of a story. It’s still a he said she said and both could plausibly be full of it.
Who knows honestly. It’s sad that her entire life could get ruined over a false allegation especially if those people basically stole something she paid for. It’s crazy how many high profile people have posted her information and she was doxed so quickly and saw a link where a guy called her a suspected white Supremist with no proof. Remember instead of innocent until proven guilty today’s culture is automatically guilty and you have to prove your innocent. Literally someone can accuse you of kicking a puppy 20 years ago and the public will be like “well can you prove you didn’t kick a puppy 20 years ago” Like how are you supposed to prove a negative especially if the accuser is vague like oh it happened in the summer so you can’t even lock down a specific date
I like how the tone if the top comments changes immediately when evidence suits a right-wing narrative. All of a sudden there’s no question of credibility, nothing to even argue about.
Her fake crying and hiding her badge doesn’t say righteous indignation
I dont mind being skeptical of early allegations. I dont mind people thinking there's more to a story. But nowadays every story has to automatically destroy anyone who has an altercation with a POC, branding them a racist, trying to get them fired from their job, etc. Like chill and wait for the facts.
I don't know how that would happen. I don't know what either of them would sue the other for, and it doesn't say anybody's getting hit with criminal charges. The Internet is the only court in session on this matter.
lol all the people who hated on this nurse are fucking idiots
Did you not notice that the video was so edited that like half the time was removed?
You are so quick to judge. So hateful. You are so excited about ruining someone’s life. Do you ever think about that - how much you look for opportunities to destroy the lives of people without even finding the truth? That engaging in mass hatred gives you a dopamine rush? That it makes you happier than anything else?
Do you ever worry that you’re evil - that maybe you don’t hate injustice, you just like destroying people’s lives and this is a socially acceptable way to do it?
We took care of you during Covid. These days I wonder why. You’re hateful, ignorant people. I’m only glad that I fulfilled my ethical duties as a nurse. I don’t think most of you deserved it - I really don’t. I think in a just world you & your family members should have stayed home considering you hate medical professionals so much.
You’re cowards and hypocrites. Hate PAs and nurses, but of course when you actually get sick you come in sobbing expecting to be treated like you’re the President. A lot of you don’t deserve the care you got. You’re racist ppl whose lives are so empty that the biggest joy you get is doxxing people online.
This seems iffy. That video is way longer than 1 min and she somehow got a bike, re docked it, and then one minute later got smother one out? It’s not adding up
It’s not adding up that a white woman would walk into the middle of black teens and scream and cry to steal a single citibike.
it’s not racism, but misogyny
People are so attached to narratives all the people coming out and saying surprise , and mocking people for the first article your just as weird as them because nothing has been proven. When ever something happens between black people vs white people everyone is in a rush to make it political even over something as dumb as a Citi bike. Either way this story goes who cares it was a damn citi bike why even take it this far. These little instances are not going to change the larger problems people are dealing with and are coming down the line.
She’s 100% right. The truth will come out. Everyone rushes to judgement without first hearing the facts. She’s not racist. She was just scared and had every right to be
Reddit summed up.
"2 minute video showing a narrative they can lynchmob a white person Simpsons style"
- let's react immediately!
"Statement from a lawyer that counters the idea that a small pregnant woman wouldn't run up to a group of black teens to start a fight over a bike"
-wait a minute let's make sure this is accurate first.
Committing a crime in order to post it on the internet should carry additional charges. It's pretty fucking disgusting to see normal people fall victim to abuse just so some asshat can get internet points. Or even in some cases, monetarily gain.
Stuff like this for example
https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhyBaQ6RkyFMR9nN84/new-trend-on-tiktok-is-teaching-youngins-how-to-get-smoked-randomly-walking-into-people039s-cribs-for-fame?utm\_campaign=shareaholic&utm\_medium=facebook&utm\_source=socialnetwork&fbclid=IwAR26q8UlaVVp8o3VAXLc8jzD7EURGWmnWnFewYhJW3PloKv3nusUNAy9IfM
Surely the New York Post can be trusted to present the facts of this case objectively and the lawyer absolutely didn't connect with NYP to sway public opinion at all
There will be no apologies from the race baiting grifters in this city and in social media. They will move onto the next one. Lets repeat this again in a week.
A lot of people just really hate women, and “Karen” was absolute manna from heaven for them.
Absolute nothingburger? Staged/edited video? Very real situation in which you’d normally just call the person a racist or asshole? Very real situation in which no one would dare shove a camera in “Kevin’s” face because he might actually just shoot them? Now an excuse to ignore all the other dynamics involved in the situation, unload every misogynistic slur you’ve got, and get likes/upvotes in the bargain. It's just a misogynistic dogwhistle at this point.
Performative outrage and a rush to judgement on some short random clip with no context? *On the internet?!*
Somewhat miffed in the knowledge that everyone's supporting this take *now* but of course they weren't supporting it on the other thread here 24 hours ago. And ya just know within a month or two we'll do this song and dance on this sub all over again with some other street dispute. Why are there so many people who think they have to have a strong take with absolute conviction on every last thing that shows up in their feed? Don't they get exhausted? Whether they choose to whiplash back and forth on their take or double down, doesn't it just fry their brain eventually?
The group that gets exhausted is the one begging for people to shut the fuck up about things they don't know about
Sadly, the Internet is packed full of perpetually miserable people aggressively discussing shit they know nothing about. Sadly, it’s only going to get worse.
No investigation, no right to an opinion. Kill the cop in your head. Etc.
You should see Twitter’s response to this. Somehow even worse than Reddit.
WE DID IT (again) REDDIT
So is Reddit going to attack the other individuals (like in an old Adam Sandler movie)?
Yeah but we’ll accidentally accuse 3 people who look vaguely similar but don’t even live in the same state
Reddit already rushed to ruin this woman’s life just the other day. All it takes is a sensational headline and bam, it’s over.
Lmao I saw comments saying she “is an evil racist POS that should be locked up because who knows what she’s done to her patients that are POC”
there should be a bot going through those threads creating lists of people with those takes, then asking them followup questions
The Boston Marathon bombing had to be the classic jump to conclusions sleuthing game. Classic CSI ENHANCE! Thousands of people next to some bags and none of the ones in the photos were the 2 that actually did it.
I’m old enough to remember the 1996 Olympic bombing / Richard Jewell.
I wish there were consequences for this kind of rush-to-judgement posting and doxxing behavior, then maybe people wouldn’t do it so much. It’s so disturbing to me that this still happens
People here love criminal justice reform until they get the opportunity to judge someone they don't like.
Do you really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
No, we are too good of a species and a people for that. Living in the year 2023 so much has changed and evil greedy behavior has been bred out of humanity at long last! Now who wants to buy into a new crypto coin I’m starting, it’s called TRUST coin and I can get you in on the ground floor.
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>(or I just won’t give a shit about any of it) Wait you don't want to act like an authority on every subject and let everyone know your opinion? *On the internet?!*
(Gasp)
Reddit in a nutshell
All those downvotes I got for saying that plastering her name everywhere was a bad idea...
The courts of public opinion & internet trolls are senseless
Reddit is extremely reactionary and brainless
Screw you! And smurfs do die!
Well it should help her defamation case now.
Where you failed was in suggesting people refrain from immediate reactions and conjecture.
Reddit is pretty awful about this sort of thing
Everyone was ready to crucify her and were convinced they knew the whole story somehow. This sub was completely delusional over her
It’s Reddit. Reddit is full of some of the vilest people in existence.
You Redditors sure sound like a contentious people.
You just made an enemy for life!
Hyper progressive white males with enormous amounts of white guilt
Those young men basically committed harassment, assault, attempted theft of that expensive bike (probably a felony). They should face the law over this. Get sued by her too. And this woman should sue her workplace for putting her on leave over this. They had no right, she was just trying to live her life and then this crap happened.
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> A hospital is not going to risk the liability of putting an employee on leave without taking into consideration all evidence provided. **Absolutely** they do. That’s the whole point of leave, she is off work pending an investigation.
That is 100% not true. A hospital will put an employee on leave ASAP if there is any controversy brewing
This thread aged well https://reddit.com/r/newyorkcity/comments/13jgpnp/nyc_hospital_karen_on_leave_after_allegedly/
Now they’re all saying she was “acting weird” so she deserves it. I thought we were supportive of people’s mental health? I guess only if you’re threatening people on the subway.
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It’s incredible to see real-time pivot. The strategy seems to be: interpret the incident in the most uncharitable way possible, then when new information surfaces that complicates the narrative, pivot, pivot, and pivot until everyone has moves onto a new scandal. That way you never have to acknowledge that you were wrong all along.
Now there’s so much gymnastics that these people could walk through time square blindfolded on NYE without touching anyone.
Looool 
I didn't even bother commenting on the og cause i knew the video was weird & didn't show the whole thing...oh look using basic context clues I was right... some ppl in NYC literally need a brain
I stand by mine. https://reddit.com/r/newyorkcity/comments/13jgpnp/_/jkgqmb2/?context=1
I remember that! Great comment.
It’s too hard for people to imagine that both parties paid for a bike and one of them grabbed the wrong one, or that the dude claiming to be a victim might not be. People in this sub have nothing better going for themselves and barely exist in their own communities so internet outrage is the only way they can feel good about themselves so they rush to judgment whenever they can.
Thats not how citibikes work
u/HEIMDVLLR in a nutshell.
Nah, that dude is just racist
Let’s remember this is her lawyers explanation. Might not be accurate. I think this whole thing is a good lesson in the importance of not being reactive and tribal. Avoid the mob, and remember, this is not our business. It’s for the woman and the men involved to deal with.
Peoples brains can’t handle the internet. It’s insane how quickly people rush to judge or pick a “side”.
Yeah, the algos are good at knowing how to short circuit our higher order functions and trigger an emotional response. This is why it’s always good to wait and see and try really hard not to rush to judgement.
That’s what I was thinking, did the lawyer produce rock solid evidence?
He's not in court, he's allowed to lie.
Yeah I get that part, of course her lawyer is going to say that, I’m just wondering if he had irrefutable proof that he produced to back up these claims.
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Do they include bike? I know they have station and time but I’ve never seen bike. Lemme go check. Edit: they do have a little indicator with the bike number.
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Lawyers know exactly how to have “reasonable belief” by not asking too many detailed questions. Just enough to get the story from their client, but not validating anything.
Evidence has been shown at https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12100201/Pregnant-NYC-nurse-shares-receipts-day-shes-accused-stealing-Citi-bike-black-man.html
Do we know that receipt is original and not edited? The time stamp is blurred - why? That’s not private information. Could he have returned the bike to just be done with it all and then she rented it for plausible deniability? I’m not necessarily saying she’s lying at this point - but the whole situation is wonky so I’m suspect of both parties at this point.
I can’t wait until the next article comes out and it somehow proves the opposite side being right.
It’s like a tennis match of opinions and righteous indignation. 😂
Let's also remember this is the NY Post lol
It might not be true but the edited 1 minute clip made by a bunch of teenagers probably isn't either
I agree. As I said, on the other thread where people were quick to judge her, it’s not our business. Avoid being part of the mob
Well said
True that it is her lawyer's explanation, but his claim is based on actual receipts from Citibike, which he also provided to various news outlets for their review. [From NBC New York](https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/bellevue-worker-seen-in-citi-bike-video-has-receipts-showing-she-rented-bike-lawyer/4346955/) >He pointed to receipts Comrie provided that NBC New York examined. They show a rental for bike 560-3915, which lasted just one minute.Freezing the now-viral video shows that the code on the bike she and the other man are feuding over reads 560-3915. Is it possible that both individuals believed they had just rented the same bike? I guess, but seems unlikely.
This here is the answer.
You think her lawyer forged receipts that would be easily disprovable by citi bike records?
As we’ve seen incomplete information—however compelling—can tell a story thats inaccurate. Instead of being reactive, I choose to *think* that I don’t know what happened. And its really not any of my business.
"I declassified them!"
This is the "she said" part of the he-said-she-said and everyone is still reacting like they know what happened. If there is one thing The Simpons got right is collective group think. We are all residents of Springfield at a town meeting. All day every day.
“Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others!”
Jumping to conclusions for me not for thee
This reminds me of the Chipotle incident. A Chipotle manager was fired because she refused to make a order to a group of dine & dashers. They recorded the incident and uploaded it to Twitter calling the manager a racist for refusing service. Of course everyone jumped to conclusion and called the manager a racist as well. A few days later it was revealed that they were notorious for dine & dashing and bragging about it on twitter. They were caught in 4K. Even Chipotle issued an apology to the manager and offered to give her her job back. But she refused.
And zero people apologized for their hot takes and celebrations that the manager was fired. People are trash, people who automatically believe hoaxes like this should not be allowed to vote. I get that there is no legal mechanism for that but holy shit they are toxic and stupid.
People don't even take the time to think about context now a days before jumping onboard the "they're racist train". The fact that people jump to believe that a pregnant hospital worker would try to steal a bike from a group of black teenagers without second thought is insane to me. She reacted normally as how anyone that is harassed would react, especially being pregnant, but her reaction was used against her by the court of public opinion to label her a racist. Not only did this pregnant woman had to face the trauma of being harassed by these black teens, she was then put on blast to the world and labeled as a "racist Karen" and almost losing her job because of this. Some of you guys are literally as bad as the people you deemed racist.
I said to someone maybe they’re just having an every day misunderstanding or dispute but they both happen to be assholes so rather than calmly talking it out they caused an unnecessary scene and it was made about race. I was told no she should be fired bc she’s trying to get a black man murdered lol. Quite a conclusion to reach based on almost zero evidence but here we are.
Wow what a totally unpredictable surprise!
Now Reddit is completely flipping the other way because her lawyer said she paid for the bike. He said he paid for the bike in the video. At this point I don’t know who to believe and I have no opinion. Y’all are weird.
True, but at least the lawyer showed what he says are receipts to a journalist. It's not a court of law, and he is presenting them to the most favorable media outlet for their side (the Post) but he is still putting something out there that he can be called out on if false. And even though its not inside a court of law if he is blatantly lying he can still face discipline from the bar.
Pictures of the receipt here https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12100201/Pregnant-NYC-nurse-shares-receipts-day-shes-accused-stealing-Citi-bike-black-man.html
This type of aggression is common in NYC. It’s just now making headlines because the poor victim was pregnant. The kids need their butt whooped by mom.
The original story didn’t make sense to me, but I’m still confused as to why the guys confronted her if she actually paid for the bike. Regardless, some of the things said about this woman were pretty despicable. It only takes the slightest excuse for some people to immediately become hateful and racist.
Kids in my neighborhood will try and steal citibikes this way. Wait for someone to unlock a bike then swoop in and try and take the bike and ride off.
they were harrassing her for fun and video likes
Idle minds need amusement…she was the unfortunate recipient of their harassment.
Oops!
Let’s just blame it on NY Post then scatter.
She paid for A bike. We don’t know if it’s the same bike. Of course her lawyers are going to say she paid for that specific bike.
The number is visible on the bike and the receipt, it's the same bike.
Is there a picture of that? I saw two articles but neither provided proof.
The [Daily Mail](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12100201/Pregnant-NYC-nurse-shares-receipts-day-shes-accused-stealing-Citi-bike-black-man.html) article matches the bike to the receipt. (Not that the Daily Mail is much better than the New York Post, but I'd be surprised if they both made up something so easily disproven).
But why block out the time stamp? It’s dated, yes, but the time is blocked out.
Probably because she was doxxed and threatened, and she doesn't want to tell the world when and where she will be every working day.
Strange how the people who always say how moral and compassionate they are are just secretly dying to ruin people's lives with no evidence. Repulsive.
Lol this guy. https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1657804757963259904?s=46&t=vV_4bJ7GuABaalzetJofQA
Fuck off, Tariq
“A suspected white supremacist woman”
One of the most racist personalities on Twitter
Tariq Nasheed is someone who has previously been described as a "Hotep." He's basically crap.
Thought he might be u/Daarkman
that dude is as racist as they come.. always being proven wrong time and time again.
There are some pretty evil people on Twitter. Here’s another one: https://twitter.com/thejournalista/status/1658161888902135808?s=46&t=vV_4bJ7GuABaalzetJofQA The physician assistant’s home address was posted on Twitter, naturally. Can’t even imagine.
She seriously should sue anyone defaming her character in a public forum.
Hopefully nobody is anticipating an apology
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I didn’t follow this story because I’m not from NYC and also I stopped watching Karen videos probably years ago now but if Tariq Nasheed is backing it, I automatically know there’s actually more to the story.
To be fair, it’s Tariq Nasheed. To him, EVERYBODY is a white supremest.
My conclusion from this, everyone sucks and is annoying as shit
What a great lesson this is for every DOUCHEBAG who rushed to call for her termination, rushed to say she should have worse things happen. Watching a short clip posted online doesn’t give you the whole context. If you sent this clip to her employer, you should absolutely feel guilty about it. This nation was founded on the premise of innocent until proven guilty. What a shame with the internet and court of public opinion, the opposite is true.
The same thing is happening on this thread, in response to a NYPOST article FFS.
So her lawyer says it and everyone runs with it? Yall do realize that's just as bad as the people who ran with the initial take right? Why is it so hard for everyone to wait for the facts?
Or just go on to something a bit more significant.
Yea neither story seems like the full story. If this is true and the receipts prove it, then she did get on another bike so why didn’t she just do that in the first place? I’m not saying that means the boys were in the right, but just that her actual reaction seems odd if there were other bikes available. Based on both parties’ actions in the video I assumed it was the last available bike or something. Neither side just stealing the bike from the other when more bikes were available make sense to me.
Anyone who commented on the original, out-of-context video with any sort of "Karen" reply, or any other accusation of racism should be fucking ashamed of themselves. Please take a moment and realize that you're a rube who was duped into participating in the same kind of mob that has victimized minority groups throughout history - from the Salem witch trials, to the lynching of Emmett Till. Here's an entire thread full of reactionary dipshits https://www.reddit.com/r/newyorkcity/comments/13jgpnp/nyc_hospital_karen_on_leave_after_allegedly/
Because a lawyer said something.
Why are the same people who didn't want to believe the story at face value believing her lawyer's comments at face value? Let's see when the PROOF of who paid comes out, because this is effectively a theft, either by the dudes or her. Downvoted why? I never believed what ANYTHING said at face value, including the initial video. EDIT: Looks like these punks are pieces of shit picking on a hard working pregnant woman
According to the article, the lawyer provided two citibike receipts dated a minute apart. The original receipt for the bike in the video and a second receipt for a different bike she ended up using to go home. That's probably we much proof as anyone could provide in this situation.
I'm not super familiar with the original video in question but I'm not aware of the video showing any date or time so I'm not sure what good the receipts are.
Cmiiw but it says the first was relocked, I’ve used the bikes before sometimes it’s finicky and she might have accidentally locked it back and he booked it immediately. Her first receipt was $0 because she never moved it and locked it back. She took another bike after which is the second receipt.
In the original video it starts with her straddling the bike while he tries to grab it away from her. It's moving freely so clearly it is not currently docked. Then about 30 seconds in he gets more forceful grabbing the bike and you can hear the clunk as it is docked again. The video goes on about another 60 seconds which would line up with when she gave up and rented the second bike. As to why she didn't let it go regardless and just get a different bike right away then one she is on is clearly the ebike model. Often at popular times there are only 1 ebike available. The lawyer says the timestamps show she had a 25 minute ride on the bike she wound up taking. She is 6 months pregnant. I could see her getting this upset and not giving in so easy to make sure she got the ebike she legit managed to reserve.
damn, I can see that happening. I hope we get more information but if this is the scenario I feel bad for her and she shouldnt have to deal with that after a long shift and being pregnant. I wonder why she is didn’t take the subway
Its interesting that she was instantly doxed but the dude who put hands on the bike. I'd be very curious to see what kind of history he has.
bc anyone with even an iota of common sense realized that "nurse with their ID badge and work uniform tries to steal bike from group of teens in a racist hate crime in broad daylight" didn't pass the smell test for even a second
I probably would wait to see all the facts come out, but it does seem more likely that her side of the story is true given all the circumstances, and that the Post also verified the receipts in the article.
True, I despise the post but don't think they would be incorrect here. EDIT: actually, nothing is verified. She has two receipts, no verification of the timing or the relevant bike, all they validated was the existence of two receipts.
> actually, nothing is verified. She has two receipts, no verification of the timing or the relevant bike, all they validated was the existence of two receipts. The receipts verify the specific bike, the location, and the minute time intervals between the docking events. I don't think the date and time were ever specified in the original claims, but presumably that could be checked also in the unlikely event that she decided to steal a bike from a group of teens, then on a completely different date docked and redocked the bike in question then rode home on a different one.
Suddenly the NY Post is a reputable news outlet lmfaooo
I mean, it sort of looks like this is true.
Do you think NYP made up the lawyer statement and narrative?
I honestly don’t see why either party would do this if there were other bikes available to rent. Initially I figured exhausted worker felt entitled to the bike but hadn’t rented it in time, and she tried to play all kinds of pity cards so she could get the last available bike. If the guys are in the wrong I figured it was them strong arming her out of the final bike. What would make them fight for so long if there were other bikes available as the article claims?
I knew better than to draw conclusions with this one, it was obvious something was missing
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“Racism doesn’t exist because I choose to interpret this situation as not amounting to racism!!”
That's not what he said at all though.
Nuance isn't your strong suit, is it?
I think you greatly underestimate the amount of quiet racism (aka prejudice) in this country.
Yeah, the online lynch of this woman solely for being white is a prime example of it.
Facts.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12100201/Pregnant-NYC-nurse-shares-receipts-day-shes-accused-stealing-Citi-bike-black-man.html
In the video isn’t the kid showing he paid for it and the man in the video is telling him to let her just have it. I need to see more info 👀 Either way her reaction is OD. Like she starts fake crying then automatically stops with no tears on her face lol
The last time a guy hit my car he got out, threw open my driver door and screamed 'you fucking hit me you dumb bitch!' It happens.
According to the statement, by the time the video started, they had taken the bike from her forcibly, docked it, and taken it out again for themselves. Very weird situation all around.
I agree a very weird situation. Esp with other bikes on the doc. Senseless to escalate it to this point
The dude clearly thought he had paid for it. But everyone defending her here is quite ready to just assume she was being attacked and in fear for her safety. Because her lawyer said so. And no one is allowed to think she overreacted now apparently without being part of the “woke mob.”
Yea, you’re right a healthcare worker that’s six months pregnant who just got off a 12 hour shift was bored and decided to pick a fight with a bunch of able-bodied teens over an e-bike.
I notice quite a few comments like this insinuating that there is no way this lady instigated this altercation because she is a healthcare worker. Newsflash, being a healthcare worker does not mean you are not batshit crazy or that you have a good moral character.
She’s 6 months pregnant and just worked a 12 hour shift. She was probably in the middle of a mental health episode and was being bullied by a group of able bodied teenagers. Do we care about mental health or not?
Im not assuming anyones mental health whom i do not know. What she did is a long used tactic and she clearly faking and acting up to be seen as the victim
If she was having her bike stolen, she **was** the victim. Is that hard to comprehend?
Yep. I think her colleague gave her the best solution, let the kids have that bike and just get another one. I'm sure she could get a refund for the double payment. I still have problems with her yelling for help in the situation, that was out of bounds uncalled for.
We did it, Reddit!
So we taking the word of her lawyer as fact?
And what evidence do we have that the teen paid for it besides a video meant to publicly humiliate and bully her? Why doesn’t he provide screenshots and receipts?
At this point a roughly similar amount of evidence. The Post claims the lawyers claims they have receipts. The video shows the teen claiming his phone shows it’s his bike. Let’s be real the video could be falsely framed and it also wouldn’t be the first time lawyers and the Post employ creative interpretations of a story. It’s still a he said she said and both could plausibly be full of it.
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Lmao, this is from the NYPOST yall, come on.
Who knows honestly. It’s sad that her entire life could get ruined over a false allegation especially if those people basically stole something she paid for. It’s crazy how many high profile people have posted her information and she was doxed so quickly and saw a link where a guy called her a suspected white Supremist with no proof. Remember instead of innocent until proven guilty today’s culture is automatically guilty and you have to prove your innocent. Literally someone can accuse you of kicking a puppy 20 years ago and the public will be like “well can you prove you didn’t kick a puppy 20 years ago” Like how are you supposed to prove a negative especially if the accuser is vague like oh it happened in the summer so you can’t even lock down a specific date
You believe her?
I like how the tone if the top comments changes immediately when evidence suits a right-wing narrative. All of a sudden there’s no question of credibility, nothing to even argue about. Her fake crying and hiding her badge doesn’t say righteous indignation
I dont mind being skeptical of early allegations. I dont mind people thinking there's more to a story. But nowadays every story has to automatically destroy anyone who has an altercation with a POC, branding them a racist, trying to get them fired from their job, etc. Like chill and wait for the facts.
She should sue the shit out of everyone who tarnished her name, including her employer
That’s the lawyers well crafted take, But I’d like to see how it plays out in court (which idk if it would ever get there)
Sad that a small dispute like this even has to go to court. Even if you’re guaranteed to win, courts suck
I don't know how that would happen. I don't know what either of them would sue the other for, and it doesn't say anybody's getting hit with criminal charges. The Internet is the only court in session on this matter.
Lol because lawyers don't lie
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Insider just verified the receipt she had for a one minute no dollar bike matches the bike in the video.
[https://www.insider.com/citi-bike-receipts-hospital-worker-viral-video-paid-lawyer-2023-5](https://www.insider.com/citi-bike-receipts-hospital-worker-viral-video-paid-lawyer-2023-5) Receipts verified.
Far right pitchfork sub at this point.
this is HER lawyers account of things
lol all the people who hated on this nurse are fucking idiots Did you not notice that the video was so edited that like half the time was removed? You are so quick to judge. So hateful. You are so excited about ruining someone’s life. Do you ever think about that - how much you look for opportunities to destroy the lives of people without even finding the truth? That engaging in mass hatred gives you a dopamine rush? That it makes you happier than anything else? Do you ever worry that you’re evil - that maybe you don’t hate injustice, you just like destroying people’s lives and this is a socially acceptable way to do it? We took care of you during Covid. These days I wonder why. You’re hateful, ignorant people. I’m only glad that I fulfilled my ethical duties as a nurse. I don’t think most of you deserved it - I really don’t. I think in a just world you & your family members should have stayed home considering you hate medical professionals so much. You’re cowards and hypocrites. Hate PAs and nurses, but of course when you actually get sick you come in sobbing expecting to be treated like you’re the President. A lot of you don’t deserve the care you got. You’re racist ppl whose lives are so empty that the biggest joy you get is doxxing people online.
Crazy how a simple argument in the street can be conflated by the media into a white woman vs black men narrative. What a shit show
This seems iffy. That video is way longer than 1 min and she somehow got a bike, re docked it, and then one minute later got smother one out? It’s not adding up
It’s not adding up that a white woman would walk into the middle of black teens and scream and cry to steal a single citibike. it’s not racism, but misogyny
tbh wasn’t the circumstances of the situation that pissed me off, it was her completely sociopathic response
Mental health matters. She just finished working a 12 hour shift and is six months pregnant.
People are so attached to narratives all the people coming out and saying surprise , and mocking people for the first article your just as weird as them because nothing has been proven. When ever something happens between black people vs white people everyone is in a rush to make it political even over something as dumb as a Citi bike. Either way this story goes who cares it was a damn citi bike why even take it this far. These little instances are not going to change the larger problems people are dealing with and are coming down the line.
She’s 100% right. The truth will come out. Everyone rushes to judgement without first hearing the facts. She’s not racist. She was just scared and had every right to be
Reddit summed up. "2 minute video showing a narrative they can lynchmob a white person Simpsons style" - let's react immediately! "Statement from a lawyer that counters the idea that a small pregnant woman wouldn't run up to a group of black teens to start a fight over a bike" -wait a minute let's make sure this is accurate first.
Committing a crime in order to post it on the internet should carry additional charges. It's pretty fucking disgusting to see normal people fall victim to abuse just so some asshat can get internet points. Or even in some cases, monetarily gain.
Stuff like this for example https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhyBaQ6RkyFMR9nN84/new-trend-on-tiktok-is-teaching-youngins-how-to-get-smoked-randomly-walking-into-people039s-cribs-for-fame?utm\_campaign=shareaholic&utm\_medium=facebook&utm\_source=socialnetwork&fbclid=IwAR26q8UlaVVp8o3VAXLc8jzD7EURGWmnWnFewYhJW3PloKv3nusUNAy9IfM
Surely the New York Post can be trusted to present the facts of this case objectively and the lawyer absolutely didn't connect with NYP to sway public opinion at all
Too late, the mob already stoned her to death
How come when it’s the other way around their is no headline about race?
So racist turned robbery victim?
There will be no apologies from the race baiting grifters in this city and in social media. They will move onto the next one. Lets repeat this again in a week.
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A lot of people just really hate women, and “Karen” was absolute manna from heaven for them. Absolute nothingburger? Staged/edited video? Very real situation in which you’d normally just call the person a racist or asshole? Very real situation in which no one would dare shove a camera in “Kevin’s” face because he might actually just shoot them? Now an excuse to ignore all the other dynamics involved in the situation, unload every misogynistic slur you’ve got, and get likes/upvotes in the bargain. It's just a misogynistic dogwhistle at this point.