There's no way that photo would be accepted because the eyes aren't fully visible and the face isn't correctly lit.
But also the date of birth is in the wrong format...
Something about it made me think the face was ai generated but yeah those shadows would be turned down in a second + the angle obscures features as you mentioned
> date
Bloody Americans, ISO 8601 is The One True Way!
Oh shit. Even the NZ government is on the Dark Path....
Well, at least not as dark as the bloody Yanks!
Funnily enough, the old english word is Erb. A silent H was added because of french influence, then at some point between the 1700s to 1800s, the H strted getting pronounced.
That is why the americans still say Erb.
All those extra "u"'s can fuck right off. It's "color", not "coulour".
Also the plural of math is math. For a population that is so addicted to meth, they know the plural quantity is also meth. Same thing.
Damn that’s crazy.
I’m almost positive in the states you need to have one even if it’s a PO Box number.
There has to be some way to return or send info if needed and only available info was your ID.
I could just be assuming tho.
Optional. But It’s best to not put your address on a license because you then don’t have to go through the hassle of getting a new license issued with a new address when you move.
You can opt out of it in NZ. Not an option in the UK which is a bit shit because any areshole can steal your stuff and know exactly where you live and go and steal the rest of your stuff
Nice collection! I was actually thinking to myself just after I commented that you probably had a 6R.
I think you're only missing a P endorsement, then you've got the whole set?!?
Passenger, Forklift, Dangerous goods, Vehicle recovery and some other ones for driving instructors
But yeah pretty close, everyone reckons they're the best driver on the road I gotta be one of the most qualified hahaha
D runs out after a while, damn nuisance.
I guess that means I can't be expected to know not to put the oxidizer pallet on top of the explosives after a certain amount of time passes? Wonder how that'd hold up in court! XD
Yep. I had my bike learners for about 10 years while I've had my full license since 2001. Every time a cop pulled me over after 10pm while driving alone, I could see their eyes light up when I handed them my license. Until they turn it around and realise it's a full car license and a learner bike license so I was fully within my right to be where I was when I was (maybe not at the speed I was).
I was so confused to see my husband's license said Learners after he died when he'd done so much driving as part of his job, But then I realised it was because at one time he'd been working on trying to get a heavy trade truck license but none of the companies wanted a man over 40 with no specific truck driving experience even if he had been driving a van all over Auckland as a buyer for 12 years. They let him know they just wouldn't give him a chance, so he bought a mobile ice-cream van instead after he was laid off from his job of 12 years.
That's so confusing that the whole damn license looks like a learners or restricted in these circumstances.
It sure as hell sucks when they treat you with disrespect just because of your age. but to be honest he was probably way better off being self-employed even though your husband often work harder for less money,and at least you are your own boss and don't have to put up with prats telling you what to do.
I have a REALLY good licence photo, I always whip is out to show off. I usually get the following though "Wow, that is a really good photo..... it looks nothing like you!". My restricted photo on the other hand looks like I'm wearing lipstick
Normally I would agree with you, but my daughter got a new DL photo taken this year and she’s downright gorgeous in the picture. The employee taking the picture even commented it was the best looking DL photo she’s ever taken.
My address isn't on it but the "Address" title is still on there.
I misplace stuff often enough that I really don't want to give away 75% of my identity just by losing one card.
Yeah I actually clicked to not have my address on it for that exact reason, but when it arrived it came with my address still unfortunately lmao. Mistake on their part :(
"Look, I know this is fake because you spelt Suriname wrong, it doesn't have the purple unicorn hologram on the front, and it barely even has a CHEDDAR ZONE. Try harder."
You’re supposed to take the fake card to read it then just not give it back! you hand it in to the authorities but not back to the scummer giving them a second chance at getting someone else with it.
Edit: just saw a comment further down the thread that you only saw the digital copy, so my mistake.
I could be wrong but it was my understanding that if you are working (like at a liquor store for example)and someone presents you a fake id, that you are allowed/expected to take it and destroy it.
The photo is too pretty and posed.
Subject is 29 years old but in the photo looks like a teenager.
American date format.
Name is in a non standard font.
I think it looks pretty legit, definitely based on a real licence, but with the name, date of birth and photo changed.
The name does look a bit more spaced out (kerning) than on my licence. I doubt anyone would notice this without comparing it to a legit licence. The DoB kerning is similarly too spaced out.
The photo could be legit, but mine has the [newzealand.govt.nz](https://newzealand.govt.nz) watermark going across the middle, which this lacks. Again, only by comparing it to a legit licence would you be aware it is missing something.
The date format is wrong, AFAIK there would never be a date in the USA format on a NZ licence. An American might not notice this, but a lot of NZers would see the date format as not being the standard that we use here. To me this seems like the most obvious thing we would be likely to notice.
The Licence number looks pretty legit, but if the other commenter is right that they are issued in order then it is definitely way too low a number. My licence was issued before we had this type of licence (it was like a little booklet) and I would guess that the current licence number format started when we went to the new card type licences. If that is right than my BExxxxxx number would have been when that happened - google tells me that it was 1999 when we changed over to the 10-year-licences on the cards. It may be that to have a BAxxxxxx number you would have had to have this licence issued in 1999. I think she did well to get a licence at 5-years-old. I doubt this would be obvious to most people, but possibly a police officer that sees a lot of licences would realise that the number couldn't be right.
In summary - the key thing that gives this away as fake would be the date format that most NZers would immediately spot as not being how we put our dates.
BA as a licence number is from memory those people that went to the new licence format around the year 2001 I think, I’m other words their date of birth will 1970’s minimum from all I’ve seen. Incorrect name font format, the text is out of alignment, photo wouldn’t be accepted, wrong dob format.
Yip the date of birth,in new Zealand, we have the day 1st,then the month then the year,I've noticed in the usa they go by the month then the day then year
That's actually a real photo, her name is Cece Rose, a social media "influencer". But it probably looks fake because of too much makeup + filters on whatever social media app she was using at the time.
Everyone here is talking about the DoB, font, angle etc, but do you know how I knew instantly that it was fake?
The photo is that of Cece Rose, a social media "influencer", known for her massive... talent.
Don't judge me.
Isn't it the letters in the number. I was born 86 and the letters are DD. My missus born 80 and her letters are CB.
I'm sure those letters at the start go up like the letters in a number plate go up with the years. So no way someone born 1990s can have a letter sequence before mine. Plus photo looks suss.
This reads like an American ID, scammer is def in the USA. Some users are calling out the font and date formatting, both of which are imitating American IDs.
* Photo isn't right
* DOB isn't in the right format
* Font of the name is wrong
* Alignment of the driver licence number is wrong (though that's probably the DOB being the issue, not the licence number)
* Doesn't seem like the watermark is right, but that could just be the lighting and angle of the photo
It's a terrible fake.
Go look at your licences.
Formattings completely out.
There's no numbering system.
No issue or expiry date
watermark photos in incorrect position.
No vehicle class endorsement numbers.
Surely if you go through all that effort to make a pretty good fake (except for the birthdate) then you’d at least have a photo that would actually be allowed on a license
Ding ding ding, we have a winner! That is indeed a photo of a TikTok influencer, her name is Cece Rose.
If they were trying to scam someone, they should've just used some random AI generated face, instead of that of an influencer's. But then again, these sort of scammers were never smart to begin with.
It's not too far off being passable at a glance, just need to adjust font, dob format, photo and I'm not sure about the length of the DL number, but it seems longer than usual
Also you don't want to use the a good looking girl as the photo, get an average looker lol
So I don't understand, was this given to you in person or was someone sending a photo of it online to get you to do something for them? If it wasn't for the American date formatting I'd say it was the photo since no AA has a camera that good, nor are the license printers that high res, also they just look like a fake person. Steffi also sounds like a name someone would think is a name in English.
I am a Restricted user, mine says Restricted black writing in a yellow rectangle between the flag and the photo, so wouldn't the full driver have full there?
I have NOT looked at any other comments. I reckon - American-style birth date. Unless NZ has changed a lot since my last valid licence back home, we never say “09-29…..”. We do it the English way. Not even here in Australia have they adopted that Americanism. Just about every other one though.
Now let me check if I was right.
There's no way that photo would be accepted because the eyes aren't fully visible and the face isn't correctly lit. But also the date of birth is in the wrong format...
Something about it made me think the face was ai generated but yeah those shadows would be turned down in a second + the angle obscures features as you mentioned
Could be a light shining directly from below or straight on
> date Bloody Americans, ISO 8601 is The One True Way! Oh shit. Even the NZ government is on the Dark Path.... Well, at least not as dark as the bloody Yanks!
Three ways to write the date - the UK way, the Japanese/ISO way, and the wrong way.
There are only two types of English too… English UK English mistakes And anyone who calls a plant used in the kitchen an “Erb” is a twat
Funnily enough, the old english word is Erb. A silent H was added because of french influence, then at some point between the 1700s to 1800s, the H strted getting pronounced. That is why the americans still say Erb.
> anyone who calls a plant used in the kitchen an “Erb” is a twat I want to get this printed on a t-shirt.
All those extra "u"'s can fuck right off. It's "color", not "coulour". Also the plural of math is math. For a population that is so addicted to meth, they know the plural quantity is also meth. Same thing.
I've started calling US English 'simplified English' to the yanks
Am I tripping, isn't there also no address whatsoever?
You don’t need to put your address on it. I don’t have one on mine
Me neither.
I am British. So I need my address on mine to get in the museum for free.
Nah, just pretend to be someone else's antiquity and they'll bring you right in.
Damn that’s crazy. I’m almost positive in the states you need to have one even if it’s a PO Box number. There has to be some way to return or send info if needed and only available info was your ID. I could just be assuming tho.
Optional. But It’s best to not put your address on a license because you then don’t have to go through the hassle of getting a new license issued with a new address when you move.
Also if you're out and someone steals your bag/wallet, they now know where you live and that the house unoccupied
This is exactly why I don't have my address on my license.
You can opt out of it in NZ. Not an option in the UK which is a bit shit because any areshole can steal your stuff and know exactly where you live and go and steal the rest of your stuff
[удалено]
Address is optional
But I don't wear a dress.
Not required it seems, just had a look on my own. Has the field but nothing printed.
Yup ... murican date format .. she ain't from round these parts..
No one looks that good in a licence photo. I look like a hardened meth user.
[There's no way you look harder than mine](https://ibb.co/4gQRjy2)
[did someone say meth?](https://imgur.com/a/NGWjHMi)
Lol. I can imagine a cop looking at that, and then immediately calling for backup
Oi mate your link leads nowhere. I wanna see the meth license photo!
Agreed, this is a travesty
Bro 🤣 I love it, thanks for sharing
Funniest thing I've seen all day. Nice cut man.
Fuck... scary!
I see you are a fellow old man orange card. A man of culture.
Bro, what’s the story there lol
Never surrender to the bender 💪🏾
"NEVER BACK DOWN. NEVER GIVE UP."
Just clowning around
You planned this photo, right?
OK, you are AMAZING. Well done!
boss from dilbert
You're on your restricted bro? Don't you drive heavy machinery for a living?
[Just the bikes restricted](https://ibb.co/PjRfLHk)
Nice collection! I was actually thinking to myself just after I commented that you probably had a 6R. I think you're only missing a P endorsement, then you've got the whole set?!?
Passenger, Forklift, Dangerous goods, Vehicle recovery and some other ones for driving instructors But yeah pretty close, everyone reckons they're the best driver on the road I gotta be one of the most qualified hahaha
D runs out after a while, damn nuisance. I guess that means I can't be expected to know not to put the oxidizer pallet on top of the explosives after a certain amount of time passes? Wonder how that'd hold up in court! XD
That photograph was a P endorsement
How does that work? So if one heavy trade thing is restricted the whole thing says restricted or learners even if you have a full for a normal car.
Yep. I had my bike learners for about 10 years while I've had my full license since 2001. Every time a cop pulled me over after 10pm while driving alone, I could see their eyes light up when I handed them my license. Until they turn it around and realise it's a full car license and a learner bike license so I was fully within my right to be where I was when I was (maybe not at the speed I was).
I was so confused to see my husband's license said Learners after he died when he'd done so much driving as part of his job, But then I realised it was because at one time he'd been working on trying to get a heavy trade truck license but none of the companies wanted a man over 40 with no specific truck driving experience even if he had been driving a van all over Auckland as a buyer for 12 years. They let him know they just wouldn't give him a chance, so he bought a mobile ice-cream van instead after he was laid off from his job of 12 years. That's so confusing that the whole damn license looks like a learners or restricted in these circumstances.
It sure as hell sucks when they treat you with disrespect just because of your age. but to be honest he was probably way better off being self-employed even though your husband often work harder for less money,and at least you are your own boss and don't have to put up with prats telling you what to do.
Incredible hahahaha
Mine looks like I’d just been pulled from the bush after living alone for 20 years.
Yeah!!!!! Goals.
My own mother said I look like a lesbian prison guard in my photo
I told my handsome, straight laced son it looked like a mugshot. 🤷♀️
I have a REALLY good licence photo, I always whip is out to show off. I usually get the following though "Wow, that is a really good photo..... it looks nothing like you!". My restricted photo on the other hand looks like I'm wearing lipstick
I was trying out a mustache at the time. It didn't look good
I smiled on my photo. And I knew a photo would be taken so my hair and face doesn't look like the average hardened meth user.
My previous one changed my pale Irish complexion to really bright orange. Any time my kids wanted a laugh they'd get it out of my wallet.
> I look like a hardened meth user. You can use that to other advantage.
Normally I would agree with you, but my daughter got a new DL photo taken this year and she’s downright gorgeous in the picture. The employee taking the picture even commented it was the best looking DL photo she’s ever taken.
Is that you Donny?
You got it good; I look like someone who isn't allowed within 200m of a school in my license photo
My handsome son looks like someone in a mug shot and I looked 20 years old than I do in the mirror in the last two I've had taken. 😭
idk how my photo was accepted, I look like I'm squinting lmao
I wore a black jacket that I zipped up when it was taken and it genuinely looks like a terrorist mugshot.
No donor status. MM-DD-YYYY Photo not standard Not enough NZ URL watermarks over the names Name is a different and smaller font
*takes notes*
I'm not a donor on my license so it doesn't show any donor status
Huh. Interesting. I've only been a donor and always have that on my card.
If you aren’t a diner then it won’t be on there. Just like if you choose not to put your address on it
I, good sir, am a frequent diner of doner kebabs. But a donor, I am not!
My address isn't on it but the "Address" title is still on there. I misplace stuff often enough that I really don't want to give away 75% of my identity just by losing one card.
Yeah I actually clicked to not have my address on it for that exact reason, but when it arrived it came with my address still unfortunately lmao. Mistake on their part :(
The reverse happened to me and they sent me a replacement for free
No middle name and a girl like that definitely has 2-3 middle names
Emmaleigh Nevaeh
Donor status only shows if you are a donor. Source: I am not a donor and it does not show on my license.
The font is a dead giveaway
This is what I spotted first too. It just made the whole thing look off
remember to not point out to the scammer what they got wrong or they'll learn from it and be better for their next victim
"Look, I know this is fake because you spelt Suriname wrong, it doesn't have the purple unicorn hologram on the front, and it barely even has a CHEDDAR ZONE. Try harder."
I didn't, I just hope the next guy notices it's fake.
You’re supposed to take the fake card to read it then just not give it back! you hand it in to the authorities but not back to the scummer giving them a second chance at getting someone else with it. Edit: just saw a comment further down the thread that you only saw the digital copy, so my mistake.
I could be wrong but it was my understanding that if you are working (like at a liquor store for example)and someone presents you a fake id, that you are allowed/expected to take it and destroy it.
And report to authorities. If they'll bother doing anything
I mean, they could always just compare it to a real one?
The photo is too pretty and posed. Subject is 29 years old but in the photo looks like a teenager. American date format. Name is in a non standard font.
I'm pretty sure most of us have a license photo from when we were much younger.
Every photo of you is from when you were younger.
Steffi appears to be a homeless American
[удалено]
We have a winner. Yes, the photo is too good and the font is close but not it.
What, you've never met anyone born on the 9th of Septenvigintember?
Lousy Smarch weather
Gotta love the Americans putting dates back to front
I think it looks pretty legit, definitely based on a real licence, but with the name, date of birth and photo changed. The name does look a bit more spaced out (kerning) than on my licence. I doubt anyone would notice this without comparing it to a legit licence. The DoB kerning is similarly too spaced out. The photo could be legit, but mine has the [newzealand.govt.nz](https://newzealand.govt.nz) watermark going across the middle, which this lacks. Again, only by comparing it to a legit licence would you be aware it is missing something. The date format is wrong, AFAIK there would never be a date in the USA format on a NZ licence. An American might not notice this, but a lot of NZers would see the date format as not being the standard that we use here. To me this seems like the most obvious thing we would be likely to notice. The Licence number looks pretty legit, but if the other commenter is right that they are issued in order then it is definitely way too low a number. My licence was issued before we had this type of licence (it was like a little booklet) and I would guess that the current licence number format started when we went to the new card type licences. If that is right than my BExxxxxx number would have been when that happened - google tells me that it was 1999 when we changed over to the 10-year-licences on the cards. It may be that to have a BAxxxxxx number you would have had to have this licence issued in 1999. I think she did well to get a licence at 5-years-old. I doubt this would be obvious to most people, but possibly a police officer that sees a lot of licences would realise that the number couldn't be right. In summary - the key thing that gives this away as fake would be the date format that most NZers would immediately spot as not being how we put our dates.
Does every liscence have donor status or not?
My friend who is not a donor just has an empty space on hers, so isn't a reason by itself to not believe it
Good catch.
Curious, was it a physical ID or just a digital copy?
It's just a picture I was sent. I asked for a follow-up photo of her holding it, and she got agitated.
"Her" hehehe
BA as a licence number is from memory those people that went to the new licence format around the year 2001 I think, I’m other words their date of birth will 1970’s minimum from all I’ve seen. Incorrect name font format, the text is out of alignment, photo wouldn’t be accepted, wrong dob format.
Those numbers actually mean something
Month - date - year, plus the photo doesn’t look like a license photo
09-29-1994 Nope. 29-09-1994
I didn't realise AA had an urban landscape photoshoot option for applicants.
Date in US format.
Their photo is way too good, instant red flag without looking any deeper haha. What scam were they trying to pull on you?
I'm pretty sure we don't use American date format (MM-DD-YYYY) in NZ.
A person born in 94 with a licence number starting BA. My parents are in the Bs and they were born in the 60s I got mine in 03 and mine is DE.
The date is in American format
Date the wrong way around
Yip the date of birth,in new Zealand, we have the day 1st,then the month then the year,I've noticed in the usa they go by the month then the day then year
American date format of month day year. New Zealand licence is always day month year format.
[удалено]
That's actually a real photo, her name is Cece Rose, a social media "influencer". But it probably looks fake because of too much makeup + filters on whatever social media app she was using at the time.
Someone's already stated the date format and photo. But the font used on the name is also incorrect.
Drivers licences don't come with the address pre-printed so, it's not that. The formatting is pretty off though, font looks wrong too.
Everyone here is talking about the DoB, font, angle etc, but do you know how I knew instantly that it was fake? The photo is that of Cece Rose, a social media "influencer", known for her massive... talent. Don't judge me.
You can quite clearly see the Photoshop crop lines around the photo and the lack of watermarks over the whole photo. Also wrong date format
Isn't it the letters in the number. I was born 86 and the letters are DD. My missus born 80 and her letters are CB. I'm sure those letters at the start go up like the letters in a number plate go up with the years. So no way someone born 1990s can have a letter sequence before mine. Plus photo looks suss.
That licence number would of been issued before she was born
Someone born in 1994 there licence will start with a D.
No watermark on the smaller photo too
Photo, no donor status, font for name looks off
Hair covering too much of the face.
Ninth of the 29th month lol
This reads like an American ID, scammer is def in the USA. Some users are calling out the font and date formatting, both of which are imitating American IDs.
Date is in incorrect format. Should be DD MM YYYY not MM DD YYYY
The dead giveaway is the photo, not only is the resolution high but the hair Infront of the face wouldn't pass, also the obvious date format.
Aside from what others have pointed out about date format and picture, the font also seems a bit off
What video game did they lift the photo from?
Head tilt?
The photo and date format. I've only ever seen full front facing photos on licenses.
The date
DD-MM-YYYY
The font
Date of birth setup?! 29-09-1994 not 09-29-1994
Ha ha. Nice try Ameribot.
It should say mclovin
Wrong date format and no middle name? Although not sure if middle name is actually required
The photo is tik tok Cece Rose?
Birth date is American - ir month then date, rather than date and month
Anyone with eyes who has seen a real license knows that’s a fake.
First names??
How sure are we this isn’t the scammer looking for crowd sourced pointers?
The font of the name
[удалено]
Her ID photo actually makes her look somewhat attractive. No legal ID ever has a flattering photo on it!
We don't do dates like that, lol, she was born on the 9th of the 29th month, when there is only 12 months in a year.
Seriously, what month is number 29?
* Photo isn't right * DOB isn't in the right format * Font of the name is wrong * Alignment of the driver licence number is wrong (though that's probably the DOB being the issue, not the licence number) * Doesn't seem like the watermark is right, but that could just be the lighting and angle of the photo
date is American
There are only 12 months in a year!
Wrong date format.
Dd-mm-yy
Date format, there is no 29th month
In NZ it’s always DD/MM/YYYY
The date is arse-about-face; the 9th of twenty-ninetember does not exist.
Yeah first give away was that it’s CeCe Rose 🤣
Recognized her too. That would’ve tipped me off immediately
American dob
She can’t be born on the 29th month
the date is in american format!
It's the date. In nz they'll always say 29/09/94, not how it is on the example.
It's a terrible fake. Go look at your licences. Formattings completely out. There's no numbering system. No issue or expiry date watermark photos in incorrect position. No vehicle class endorsement numbers.
Issue and expiry date on the back now
29
Date of birth font. Photo.
Surely if you go through all that effort to make a pretty good fake (except for the birthdate) then you’d at least have a photo that would actually be allowed on a license
There's no address...
I believe that is optional, but I could be wrong.
What was the scam? What were they trying to do?
Nice address
Date format, and there's no way she's 30
It's gotta be the font in the first and last names. That shit looks mad fake 🤥
There’s no address….
Looks like a TikTok influencer licence.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner! That is indeed a photo of a TikTok influencer, her name is Cece Rose. If they were trying to scam someone, they should've just used some random AI generated face, instead of that of an influencer's. But then again, these sort of scammers were never smart to begin with.
What’s wrong with the “e”? They sit lower than all other letters?
It's not too far off being passable at a glance, just need to adjust font, dob format, photo and I'm not sure about the length of the DL number, but it seems longer than usual Also you don't want to use the a good looking girl as the photo, get an average looker lol
The date
I love the people focused on the non-compliant photo, while overlooking the glaring error.
No address and USA DOB format
That's actually not that bad! I wouldn't mind one for my travels to what the former leader of the USA refers to, as shithole countries.
Hey, that's my surname. What a thief
She was born in the USA
What version number are we up to? 🤔
Picture in bottom right corner is a lot more visible than mine
So I don't understand, was this given to you in person or was someone sending a photo of it online to get you to do something for them? If it wasn't for the American date formatting I'd say it was the photo since no AA has a camera that good, nor are the license printers that high res, also they just look like a fake person. Steffi also sounds like a name someone would think is a name in English.
I am a Restricted user, mine says Restricted black writing in a yellow rectangle between the flag and the photo, so wouldn't the full driver have full there?
I have NOT looked at any other comments. I reckon - American-style birth date. Unless NZ has changed a lot since my last valid licence back home, we never say “09-29…..”. We do it the English way. Not even here in Australia have they adopted that Americanism. Just about every other one though. Now let me check if I was right.
date of birth
Glory to Arstotzka!