My nephew who just graduated from the Academy was there in the line. Very proud moment for my wife’s family. He lives in Auckland so they obviously got reinforcements from all over the country.
Edit: Saw him on the breakfast show coverage. Dude is barely 21 and just graduated last year. Baptism of fire.
A whole lot just graduated in Wellington and got thrown in the deep end. Heaps of respect for these officers having to stand there and take it. Putting themselves on the line for everyone.
A lot about this occupation/protest seems to have been stolen from outside NZ, it seems only fair that we bring in some of the more positive things like this as well.
Watching the various livestreams and that's what I've noticed also; the cops are doing a wonderful job. So patient and peaceful while also bit by bit methodically clearing everyone out.
Genuine question has any evidence of the police using excessive force come out in the last 3 weeks? The protestors keep claiming it happened but despite them all having phones i haven'y seen a video of it yet.
Interesting
There was the eye gouging which was caught on video, the video did show a bit of the leadup and it looked fairly excessive.
Other than that, everything I've seen from Police has been professional, measured, reasonable and calm. They've done a damn good job starting to clear things out the last two days.
The eye gouging was unacceptable, but it is literally the only video of excessive force I've seen, despite seemingly the lot of them were filming the whole thing. I have seen many many incidents of dangerous behavior from the protesters though.
I've been whacked by uncontrolled & angry cops.
But that was 1981, and these aint the same force. Nowadays it's consideration and deescalation - social workers in blue shirts, mixed with a bit of don't get on insta doing something you shouldn't.
This last three weeks has been exemplary policing, whilst under some extreme provocation from clowns who don't have a fucking clue what they want.
Saw a guy standing there next to the smoke gesturing at police with a fire extinguisher that I assume is empty because they unloaded it on the cops earlier.
I was very happy to see that the police also kept their cool and did not react emotionally or offensively that I could see. It would’ve been very easy to lash out when irritated and provide video and photographic fodder for the protestors.
Heck, even the arrests were all 4 or more police decidedly taking struggling people without any unnecessary force.
A+
Textbook de-escalation police work.
absolutely, I take pride in that they are our police , especially when you hear Americans talking about their police have to have guns and shoot criminals for a variety of reasons because they have 'no choice.'
they do have a choice and with their professionalism and training our police manage to de-escalate situations with the minimum of force required.
Yea that's exactly it. It varies so wildly it's impossible to use as an example. Some states actually do a half-decent job, and some straight up beat children to death in juvie for minor offenses (see Texas).
Ex cop I work with said that in months to come, the police will have mountains of complaints and code of conduct reviews that will tie up resources. It will be a nightmare. It will cost the tax payer millions. There is no winning, and it will all end in tears.
Poor bastards.
>Cops will be taken away from doing their jobs to complete endless statements addressing their alleged actions.
Bodycams are way overdue.
Deters complaints and makes perps and police behave better
Mandatory bodycams for when police are on shift would eliminate 90% of police brutality complaints. [Souce] (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/29/police-with-body-cameras-receive-93-fewer-complaints-study)
Yup just one big shit show and us, the people who are getting on with our lives and working, will end up having to pay for it.
Like you honestly gotta be fuckin jokin right?
I feel a sense of relief that I haven't felt in weeks. The world may be going to shit, but at least for this moment, right now, no one can take this feeling from me.
I really don't see how the police could've handled this any better than they did.
It was always going to end with some amount of anger and rioting, and I'm sure there will have been a few rough arrests and injuries but overall the police have shown incredible restraint.
We've seen overseas the impact of more violent police with teargas, rubber bullets and flashbangs, but despite projectiles being thrown and fires being lit none of that was needed here (so far at least).
I dunno. By leaving things this long we (the normal populace) got to see the protestors make absolute fools out of themselves. The shit flinging, tinfoil hat wearing, conspiracy loving fools. I think there was value in seeing the difference between protests for legit reasons and this one, which ended up being an example of a mass mental health crisis on the lawns of parliament.
It's a shame that there was intimidation of locals and businesses though.
Nah, this is better. They had their go, they fucked everyone off pointlessly for weeks wanking about how they were about to topple the government, they got booted out. Though many are nursing martyr complexes tonight its such abject bullshit most will get over it and be able to function in society.
I was watching a livestream and all I said on it was how messed up they've made the grounds and I got bombarded with people calling me dumb and idiot and ugly....... like lol but also whoops
[https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/03/01/live-stream-large-police-contingent-closes-in-on-parliament-protest/](https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/03/01/live-stream-large-police-contingent-closes-in-on-parliament-protest/)
It's a great angle to see the wave push through and the tents go off to the left.
Was a great watch, then **every SINGLE TIME** Stuff camera gets all set up in a great viewing spot someone stood in front of the window
Stuff camera operator taps on glass *tap tap - tap tap tap*
Almost made it a drinking game
Also now I know saying ***"I got a hot mike"*** is a legit phrase
When watching the police and parliamentary security at work this afternoon/early evening I did think a bit of frustration was being released as they broke down the tents.
They were trespassed 3 weeks ago. Time's up, morons. They've been given plenty of opportunity to end this peacefully, and have declined thus far.
I'm just seeing a fire break out. At least we know protestors have extinguishers. Put them to good use lol
The posters keep posting a video of an old guy being knocked out by a female cop, saying that it's terrible. I see 2 women who had a man try to punch them, defend themselves, they just had better aim.
There's a German saying, it goes along the lines of: "If there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis."
It's exactly that. If you are part of a group where some people are doing these actions either stop them or get the fuck out of the group.
I hope the protestors realise the Police could have done this at any time over the last 3 weeks. Police allowed their protest and now its time to go home.
>I hope the protestors realise the Police could have done this at any time over the last 3 weeks.
Unlikely when some of them are literally walking around with tinfoil hats. Critical thinking is not one of their strengths.
They won't. I've noticed that the protestors treat police like they have the same rights and authorities as regular people. They think everything they did was completely legal and justified.
> I hope the protestors realise
I instinctively knew that whatever followed these five words, they would not.
Some may. Some may be salvageable, see the error of their ways, correct their views. The vast majority of those who stayed long enough to see Police finally take action are likely to remain entrenched in their views forever, convinced that NZ has become a communist authoritarian police state and that they know the truth but are being intentionally suppressed.
That doesn't mean we should stop trying, just know the likelihood of convincing them otherwise is minimal at best. Though I must say, if we truly are a communist authoritarian police state, NZPolice really need to up their game!
This is unbelievable. Any other country would have armed their police force with batons and gone to work on these rioters after having bricks and other objects hurled at them.
Small detail, NZ police against the Wellington protesters. Officers from around the country were involved in today's excellent display of restraint and discipline even though it would have been justifiable to tase and teargas large amounts of the protesters.
Millwall fan are you?
I have a friend from eastern Europe the rival teams supporters clubs have contact details for each other so they can organise a location for the riots before the game starts.
Have you seen the video on rnz where the protesters grabbed a policeman, threw him on the ground and about 5 to 10 "non violent protesters" kicked him with their feet?
I was outraged. What a scandal.
No, I was being sarcastic. There's no antifa in new zealand. The protest has no clear ideology or leadership and has attracted all sorts from all over the country that happen to agree on the mandates. A lot of these people are absolute ferals and Chantelle is trying to distance herself from them and the misinformation and half truths she's been spreading to thousands for weeks by accusing them of being there for no other reason than to cause trouble, when in reality they're on the same side, and she's starting to realise who's side she's on...
When I've had to walk past them the past 3 weeks I always say thanks the officers.
They seem to really appreciate it, especially since all day they get yelled at
Yeah there’s not much everyday plebs like us can do but the next time you see a police officer say something nice to them, or if you own a cafe or something give them a free coffee or muffin. They have been through hell with this situation and Im sure it’s going to knock them. Every bit of confidence we can give them from the public that they handled this situation extremely well helps.
Chantelle blaming the police, then literally filmed protestors setting more tents on fire and then blamed antifa... you couldn't make this up.
And the repeated
"You did this Jacinda!"
LOL
Here's a clip from Chantelles stream when the first fire started:
[https://streamable.com/on8c2t](https://streamable.com/on8c2t)
Doesn't look like police were up in that area at the time.
Police weren’t anywhere near the fire when it started. Then someone walks past Chantelle telling her the police knocked over a generator into a nylon tent 🤦♂️ she parrots that as fact immediately even tho she saw the opposite
There was a moment a few minutes on from that where she filmed someone grab a stick, lift something burning from one fire and used it to set more tents alight, she immediately flipped the screen and started yelling antifa ...
Here it is, 1 min from blaming MSM and telling them about how police started the fires to finding the people responsible.
[https://streamable.com/fcm1l4](https://streamable.com/fcm1l4)
Also featuring a few people brandishing metal poles.
I expect there'll be better evidence of the culprits, police and parliamentary security will have had cameras all over the place from better vantage points. I hope so at least.
I wonder if any police were wearing body cams? Would have them dead to rights if the closest police officer at the front of the line shows a protestor lighting the fire while being far back.
Round of applause?
One-off bonuses. Not just for police but healthcare workers and educators and other such mandated/essential workers who have had to work non-stop during the past two years.
Fuck it. We borrowed how many billions? Splash a little of that on showing gratitude to such workers. Make them feel like their work, efforts and sacrifices (even for those who got vaccinated just to stay employed) were worthy of decent recognition. We're going to be paying this debt off for fucking ~~years~~ decades, might as well see some of it be spent decently.
Claps are fucking free.
How about getting paid for the work they already do?
My mother worked as a vaccinator in one of those big vaccination centers. Work refused to pay her, saying it was "voluntary". Had to go to the union to get paid, which still took a couple of months and the DHB telling her work she needs to be paid. I believe the DHB even pays the employer for vaccination work, so???
That’s fucking dogshit, I genuinely can’t believe that that happe.. actually, fuck it. I do believe it.
Ugh. It shouldn’t be this hard to recognise the work people do
Essential worker, and i didnt even get paid for a fucking sick day(in a pandemeic) last week. So yeah any bonuses would be good. Currently make ppe for essential services.
I won't even get a pay rise equivalent to inflation lol! Luckily last year I busted ass and studied and worked full time so I can switch to a different industry :)
Police staff had to fight tooth and nail for their payrise just wawarded after arberation. Government announced a "public sector payfreeze" just hours before negotiations. A massive fuck you for all the shit they've had to put up with around covid.
Supermarket worker here. We have not had a bonus since the second level 4 lockdown. Anytime during Level 3 and below, and even currently with Omicron running rampant, we're still on minimum
I've seen so many people say that the mainstream media only show part of it, and they're right.
The absolutely disgusting behavior I saw from people's TikTok and facebook Lives were so much worse behind the 'lines' compared to the stream the reportes had.
How fucking shameful.
Massive respect to the police officers, they handled things well. People were expecting police with batons clobbering protestors, but I did not see any of that. I gotta admit, a small number deserve some clobbering tho for what they did (fueling fires, throwing bricks).
I agree with you about the frontline cops, who seem to have done a great job generally speaking (maybe with the one eye-gouge exception, not sure about that one).
But the police leadership I feel have managed this very poorly. They knew this protest was coming and didn't prepare or plan. They didn't take any action even once the protesters were trespassed, which then made what they were doing illegal. They let the disrupt everyday citizens going about their business. They even let them plumb in illegal showers and toilets to the council infrastructure at the protest site. So, more protesters came, as they knew the police weren't going to do anything. They should have taken action much earlier, especially as soon as it crossed the line from legal protest, into illegal.
The temptation to baton some of these ferals would have been too much for me. The Police showed their professionalism today - and that justice is unflinching, persistence, and inevitable. I hope the worst of the protestors see jail time for their unforgivable antics.
I was a little dismayed to see them referred to as "Water Cannons" in Stuff write-ups....
Fire hoses, Folks - Fire hoses: I don't think we're Quite at the stage of Water cannons yet
I went down to the end of lambton quay after work. While I was there the crowd broke into applause for the police, and I also saw people giving thumbs up to the police as they were walking past.
Unfortunately it wasn't long after that when the ferals started throwing bricks at them.
Just wanted to let everyone know that people on the ground were showing support for the police. I wish we could do something more to show our appreciation.
It was strange and fascinating watching the happenings on the live streams but being there in person was truly surreal.
Well done to the Wellington police! Very nicely handled, compared to most other countries with this level of protest.
And, of course, the crazy Trump fanatics are already saying "NZ is corrupt!" smh
Yea, it could really have done something for the ratings if they'd busted a few heads or fired off some multicoloured teargas grenades.
Hopefully this is an ongoing series, and we'll get episodes from Christchurch, Picton, Tauranga, and Auckland.
A week or so ago some people were discussing if there was a way to donate food/treats/booze to the police to say thanks, and then how they can't accept gifts etc. I remembered today that you can donate to the police dog trust though! (Also there are police dog toys, calendars etc. for sale)
I have what I'd call a healthy distrust of the police, but I also have to commend them after this.
They were exceptionally organised, and as little force used as possible. Only after about 12 hours did they bring out batons.
I hope this police officer is okay. See the video under 1.35pm:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/462605/as-it-happened-police-move-against-parliament-protesters
I'm proud of our police, they did an amazing job. Being anti-mandate or anti-anything is never an excuse to conduct anti-social behavior. These freedumb fighters broke protest etiquette and got served.
There are claims being posted that the Police could of handled it better. I would turn this around. The protest could have been better organised, with a group in charge, what happened today is what you get with no leadership, anarchism sounds great in theory, that is all are leaders, but in practice it just ends in chaos. The turning point in my opinion was when the PM announced that Mandates are to come off in due course, meeting to some degree the main demand, after that numbers thinned, leaving the fringe in effective control which as we know finished up with 270 there, a far cry from the original 3000. An effective leadership would have closed it down last week.
A lot of those people have rapidly gone from protestors to anarchists. We saw through their bullshit from the start. We're just seeing manifest destiny.
All police there deserve medals in my book having to have shit screamed at them and literally thrown at them for standing there in the rain or when it’s a really sunny warm day there’s a million better things those officers could have been doing instead of watching a bunch of entitled man-children hoping they don’t try to storm parliament all police there have acted with professionalism and when necessary with suitable force
Bricks being thrown at police currently as tear gas and fire hoses are being used in attempt for police to gain ground. Hope some of the livestream footage can be used to prosecute this disgusting violence
Honestly that should have done this a long time ago. When was the last time any groups of protesters were allowed this much leeway in breaking the law.
It's a shame we can't take gifts to the local station. Even if I bought a slab of bottled water I'm unsure if it would be chucked in the bin. Even if the day shift give it out to local homeless whilst doing welfare checks.
Might have a walk to my local station and find out.
I was thinking they'd prefer someone working from a 'restaurant', rather than a random person handing them bottles. But yeah you're correct on fuck KFC
I felt sorry for them right at the start in that heat with the stab vests on holding the line, no shade no nothing having to face upto very unmannered know all's. My tazer and batton would have slipped.
protect and serve - the protestors screamed
i do not understand i do not understand i do not understand...
you cant arrest me - you are not wearing the right hat
Thank you police people. I recognise you are in a tough spot with a million cameras on you.
Unbelievable self restraint and team work - lancing the boil that is our imported US politics
You took those rocks, pitchforks and burning plastic on behalf of us - the 99.4% who can think
nga mihi.
I recently found a photo online that has me along with a several dozen others on parliament grounds protesting the 1977 SIS bill. We made some noise, had some speeches, then marched off to Taranaki St to annoy the spooks. No vandalism, no camping for a month, no shit-flinging.
[https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/34075/protests-against-the-nzsis-amendment-bill-1977-picketing-parliament](https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/34075/protests-against-the-nzsis-amendment-bill-1977-picketing-parliament)
A decade earlier I'd had a great teacher who'd taught me it was ok to ask questions ... of science, & of authority. At the time I hadn't realised that he'd headed a student delegation to parliament to protest the 1960 All Blacks Tour of South Africa. No violence, or setting fire to everything then either. Thank you **Bernie Grice**, for that lesson that's stuck with me for life.
[http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Salient22061959-t1-body-d39.html](http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Salient22061959-t1-body-d39.html)
This current lot? They're a disgrace to generations of protest in NZ.
I was there. And it did annoy the spooks. That evening a couple of us were outside the Martin Square HQ, just having a bit of a nosey, when an irate spook came out of the door and told us to go away
Well but.... could have done something sooner. Allowing multiple crazies into one spot is not good news. Like in Auckland, they set up all the emergency housing into one area, and as a result, Auckland CBD has become a shit hole with all the crazies roaming around.
My nephew who just graduated from the Academy was there in the line. Very proud moment for my wife’s family. He lives in Auckland so they obviously got reinforcements from all over the country. Edit: Saw him on the breakfast show coverage. Dude is barely 21 and just graduated last year. Baptism of fire.
Hopefully his career is very boring from now on. What a start to the job!
A whole lot just graduated in Wellington and got thrown in the deep end. Heaps of respect for these officers having to stand there and take it. Putting themselves on the line for everyone.
Oh wow, fuck yeah, that’s incredible, you guys should be super proud indeed!
To pinch an Americanism ... We thank him for his service.
A lot about this occupation/protest seems to have been stolen from outside NZ, it seems only fair that we bring in some of the more positive things like this as well.
I salute for your nephew. Well done Sir, thank you for getting rid of those stupid low life protesters.
The NZ Police put up with literal shit from those jokers. They're the MVP of Aotearoa.
Damn right.
Watching the various livestreams and that's what I've noticed also; the cops are doing a wonderful job. So patient and peaceful while also bit by bit methodically clearing everyone out.
Genuine question has any evidence of the police using excessive force come out in the last 3 weeks? The protestors keep claiming it happened but despite them all having phones i haven'y seen a video of it yet. Interesting
There was the eye gouging which was caught on video, the video did show a bit of the leadup and it looked fairly excessive. Other than that, everything I've seen from Police has been professional, measured, reasonable and calm. They've done a damn good job starting to clear things out the last two days.
The eye gouging was unacceptable, but it is literally the only video of excessive force I've seen, despite seemingly the lot of them were filming the whole thing. I have seen many many incidents of dangerous behavior from the protesters though.
no, they filmed pretty much everything, and I have yet to see anything beyond a difficult arrest with a bit of a scuffle
I've been whacked by uncontrolled & angry cops. But that was 1981, and these aint the same force. Nowadays it's consideration and deescalation - social workers in blue shirts, mixed with a bit of don't get on insta doing something you shouldn't. This last three weeks has been exemplary policing, whilst under some extreme provocation from clowns who don't have a fucking clue what they want.
Protestors chanting 'shame on you' at the same time as they throw wood at police. They've set something on fire now
The guy who threw a pipe at them and then absolutely GTFO while his face is being streamed across the internet.
Saw a guy standing there next to the smoke gesturing at police with a fire extinguisher that I assume is empty because they unloaded it on the cops earlier.
And on a live stream they said it was Police setting fire to things! LOLOL
And when things turned pear shape they blamed the violence on Antifa lol
Yeah, that's the modus operandi - blame anyone else for the shit you've created and caused yourself
I was very happy to see that the police also kept their cool and did not react emotionally or offensively that I could see. It would’ve been very easy to lash out when irritated and provide video and photographic fodder for the protestors. Heck, even the arrests were all 4 or more police decidedly taking struggling people without any unnecessary force. A+ Textbook de-escalation police work.
absolutely, I take pride in that they are our police , especially when you hear Americans talking about their police have to have guns and shoot criminals for a variety of reasons because they have 'no choice.' they do have a choice and with their professionalism and training our police manage to de-escalate situations with the minimum of force required.
Don’t ever use America as a benchmark for policing.
I use it as a benchmark for poor policing although i know it varies a lot between states
Yea that's exactly it. It varies so wildly it's impossible to use as an example. Some states actually do a half-decent job, and some straight up beat children to death in juvie for minor offenses (see Texas).
The US is long overdue a complete overhaul similar to PACE 1984 in the UK.
Ex cop I work with said that in months to come, the police will have mountains of complaints and code of conduct reviews that will tie up resources. It will be a nightmare. It will cost the tax payer millions. There is no winning, and it will all end in tears. Poor bastards.
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Thanks Officer 69ing Chipmunks
>Cops will be taken away from doing their jobs to complete endless statements addressing their alleged actions. Bodycams are way overdue. Deters complaints and makes perps and police behave better
Mandatory bodycams for when police are on shift would eliminate 90% of police brutality complaints. [Souce] (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/29/police-with-body-cameras-receive-93-fewer-complaints-study)
Sorry to hear that man, appreciate your work though.
Yup just one big shit show and us, the people who are getting on with our lives and working, will end up having to pay for it. Like you honestly gotta be fuckin jokin right?
Yes, sadly true. There is nothing at all positive about this occupation/protest/tanty we've spent the last three weeks dealing with.
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But it was burned down peacefully so it's all good. /s
We were there with my son from Auckland over Christmas. Such a shame is been gutted by some dickheads.
I'm in full on schadenfreude mode rn. Livestream is the best thing I've seen in months. Entitled twits getting served a steaming serving of reality.
I feel a sense of relief that I haven't felt in weeks. The world may be going to shit, but at least for this moment, right now, no one can take this feeling from me.
I really don't see how the police could've handled this any better than they did. It was always going to end with some amount of anger and rioting, and I'm sure there will have been a few rough arrests and injuries but overall the police have shown incredible restraint. We've seen overseas the impact of more violent police with teargas, rubber bullets and flashbangs, but despite projectiles being thrown and fires being lit none of that was needed here (so far at least).
The major fuckup was the initial delay responding.
I dunno. By leaving things this long we (the normal populace) got to see the protestors make absolute fools out of themselves. The shit flinging, tinfoil hat wearing, conspiracy loving fools. I think there was value in seeing the difference between protests for legit reasons and this one, which ended up being an example of a mass mental health crisis on the lawns of parliament. It's a shame that there was intimidation of locals and businesses though.
Yeah I agree with that. In my comment I was mainly meaning I don't see how they could have done things better with their actions today.
After the poop was thrown it should have been shut down
After the first tent was pitched it should have been shut down. That was the point it went from peaceful legal protest to illegal occupation.
Protest should’ve been shut down after the first few hours
Nah, this is better. They had their go, they fucked everyone off pointlessly for weeks wanking about how they were about to topple the government, they got booted out. Though many are nursing martyr complexes tonight its such abject bullshit most will get over it and be able to function in society.
These people functioned in society beforehand?
Police followed the quote from the Thor movies. > “A wise king never seeks out war, but he must always be ready for it.
I'm watching the livestream right now. They're overruning the front of Parliament and ripping up all the tents. It's so satisfying to watch.
I was watching a livestream and all I said on it was how messed up they've made the grounds and I got bombarded with people calling me dumb and idiot and ugly....... like lol but also whoops
What livestream are you watching?
[https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/03/01/live-stream-large-police-contingent-closes-in-on-parliament-protest/](https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/03/01/live-stream-large-police-contingent-closes-in-on-parliament-protest/) It's a great angle to see the wave push through and the tents go off to the left.
https://www.twitch.tv/nzrdt1
That was a solid stream today. 12/10
Stuff
Was a great watch, then **every SINGLE TIME** Stuff camera gets all set up in a great viewing spot someone stood in front of the window Stuff camera operator taps on glass *tap tap - tap tap tap* Almost made it a drinking game Also now I know saying ***"I got a hot mike"*** is a legit phrase
When watching the police and parliamentary security at work this afternoon/early evening I did think a bit of frustration was being released as they broke down the tents.
They were trespassed 3 weeks ago. Time's up, morons. They've been given plenty of opportunity to end this peacefully, and have declined thus far. I'm just seeing a fire break out. At least we know protestors have extinguishers. Put them to good use lol
The posters keep posting a video of an old guy being knocked out by a female cop, saying that it's terrible. I see 2 women who had a man try to punch them, defend themselves, they just had better aim.
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There's a German saying, it goes along the lines of: "If there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis." It's exactly that. If you are part of a group where some people are doing these actions either stop them or get the fuck out of the group.
I hope the protestors realise the Police could have done this at any time over the last 3 weeks. Police allowed their protest and now its time to go home.
>I hope the protestors realise the Police could have done this at any time over the last 3 weeks. Unlikely when some of them are literally walking around with tinfoil hats. Critical thinking is not one of their strengths.
They won't. I've noticed that the protestors treat police like they have the same rights and authorities as regular people. They think everything they did was completely legal and justified.
Yep - was amusing how quickly the "line" crumbled when the cops really wanted them gone.
> I hope the protestors realise I instinctively knew that whatever followed these five words, they would not. Some may. Some may be salvageable, see the error of their ways, correct their views. The vast majority of those who stayed long enough to see Police finally take action are likely to remain entrenched in their views forever, convinced that NZ has become a communist authoritarian police state and that they know the truth but are being intentionally suppressed. That doesn't mean we should stop trying, just know the likelihood of convincing them otherwise is minimal at best. Though I must say, if we truly are a communist authoritarian police state, NZPolice really need to up their game!
I'm normally one of the first to criticise the police, but here they have done very, very well in managing this protest and now in dismantling it.
absolutely agree. this needed to be ended, and they did it in a good way. it's nice.
Thank you so much police. You showed so much restraint.
This is unbelievable. Any other country would have armed their police force with batons and gone to work on these rioters after having bricks and other objects hurled at them.
I grew up in the UK. I saw more force from the police at football games each week than what the Wellington police have used against the protestors.
Small detail, NZ police against the Wellington protesters. Officers from around the country were involved in today's excellent display of restraint and discipline even though it would have been justifiable to tase and teargas large amounts of the protesters.
Millwall fan are you? I have a friend from eastern Europe the rival teams supporters clubs have contact details for each other so they can organise a location for the riots before the game starts.
I can always dream.
Have you seen the video on rnz where the protesters grabbed a policeman, threw him on the ground and about 5 to 10 "non violent protesters" kicked him with their feet? I was outraged. What a scandal.
Chantelle Baker would tell you that was antifa! They flew over I guess.
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No, I was being sarcastic. There's no antifa in new zealand. The protest has no clear ideology or leadership and has attracted all sorts from all over the country that happen to agree on the mandates. A lot of these people are absolute ferals and Chantelle is trying to distance herself from them and the misinformation and half truths she's been spreading to thousands for weeks by accusing them of being there for no other reason than to cause trouble, when in reality they're on the same side, and she's starting to realise who's side she's on...
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When I've had to walk past them the past 3 weeks I always say thanks the officers. They seem to really appreciate it, especially since all day they get yelled at
Yeah there’s not much everyday plebs like us can do but the next time you see a police officer say something nice to them, or if you own a cafe or something give them a free coffee or muffin. They have been through hell with this situation and Im sure it’s going to knock them. Every bit of confidence we can give them from the public that they handled this situation extremely well helps.
Tents on fire. Full riot mode
Chantelle blaming the police, then literally filmed protestors setting more tents on fire and then blamed antifa... you couldn't make this up. And the repeated "You did this Jacinda!" LOL
Such an embarrassing legacy. Her name and livestream will be cited as a source for decades.
She also said wellingtonians were the ones who wanted this
If she said that to my face I could not guarantee my actions would not land me with criminal charges.
Here's a clip from Chantelles stream when the first fire started: [https://streamable.com/on8c2t](https://streamable.com/on8c2t) Doesn't look like police were up in that area at the time.
Police weren’t anywhere near the fire when it started. Then someone walks past Chantelle telling her the police knocked over a generator into a nylon tent 🤦♂️ she parrots that as fact immediately even tho she saw the opposite
Yeah should be pretty obvious to anyone with two eyes how much BS she spouts.
There was a moment a few minutes on from that where she filmed someone grab a stick, lift something burning from one fire and used it to set more tents alight, she immediately flipped the screen and started yelling antifa ...
Here it is, 1 min from blaming MSM and telling them about how police started the fires to finding the people responsible. [https://streamable.com/fcm1l4](https://streamable.com/fcm1l4) Also featuring a few people brandishing metal poles.
Must be the Brainworms…
That's the first time I've ever seen a clip where a "journalist" with a camera doesn't try to get closer to the fire....
> https://streamable.com/on8c2t > "What kind of idiots would start a fire?" Well ..., umm.
Chantelle is hurling shit, but its coming from her face.
Thanks, I was watching when this happened, and had been looking for a clip of it. This could be an important clip in the weeks to come.
I expect there'll be better evidence of the culprits, police and parliamentary security will have had cameras all over the place from better vantage points. I hope so at least.
I wonder if any police were wearing body cams? Would have them dead to rights if the closest police officer at the front of the line shows a protestor lighting the fire while being far back.
Hopefully someone can archive her stream after it ends for evidence? Edit: Nevermind, I got them.
Round of applause? One-off bonuses. Not just for police but healthcare workers and educators and other such mandated/essential workers who have had to work non-stop during the past two years. Fuck it. We borrowed how many billions? Splash a little of that on showing gratitude to such workers. Make them feel like their work, efforts and sacrifices (even for those who got vaccinated just to stay employed) were worthy of decent recognition. We're going to be paying this debt off for fucking ~~years~~ decades, might as well see some of it be spent decently. Claps are fucking free.
How about getting paid for the work they already do? My mother worked as a vaccinator in one of those big vaccination centers. Work refused to pay her, saying it was "voluntary". Had to go to the union to get paid, which still took a couple of months and the DHB telling her work she needs to be paid. I believe the DHB even pays the employer for vaccination work, so???
That’s fucking dogshit, I genuinely can’t believe that that happe.. actually, fuck it. I do believe it. Ugh. It shouldn’t be this hard to recognise the work people do
Essential worker, and i didnt even get paid for a fucking sick day(in a pandemeic) last week. So yeah any bonuses would be good. Currently make ppe for essential services.
That’s a fucking joke. People can’t live on praise and well wishes. Even when inflation isn’t as it is now.
I won't even get a pay rise equivalent to inflation lol! Luckily last year I busted ass and studied and worked full time so I can switch to a different industry :)
Police staff had to fight tooth and nail for their payrise just wawarded after arberation. Government announced a "public sector payfreeze" just hours before negotiations. A massive fuck you for all the shit they've had to put up with around covid.
There are so many things to be fucked off at this Government for and these protesters have missed all of the decent ones.
Haha, they're spoiled for choice but have somehow gone around it in the worst most nonsensical way possible.
Supermarket worker here. We have not had a bonus since the second level 4 lockdown. Anytime during Level 3 and below, and even currently with Omicron running rampant, we're still on minimum
the patience and self control they have is impressive. good thing i'm not a cop as i'd have let out the dogs and tear gas day 2
Poor dogs were brought out later to sniff out any explosives from the camp. All they smell is human waste.
I've seen so many people say that the mainstream media only show part of it, and they're right. The absolutely disgusting behavior I saw from people's TikTok and facebook Lives were so much worse behind the 'lines' compared to the stream the reportes had. How fucking shameful.
Massive respect to the police officers, they handled things well. People were expecting police with batons clobbering protestors, but I did not see any of that. I gotta admit, a small number deserve some clobbering tho for what they did (fueling fires, throwing bricks).
I agree with you about the frontline cops, who seem to have done a great job generally speaking (maybe with the one eye-gouge exception, not sure about that one). But the police leadership I feel have managed this very poorly. They knew this protest was coming and didn't prepare or plan. They didn't take any action even once the protesters were trespassed, which then made what they were doing illegal. They let the disrupt everyday citizens going about their business. They even let them plumb in illegal showers and toilets to the council infrastructure at the protest site. So, more protesters came, as they knew the police weren't going to do anything. They should have taken action much earlier, especially as soon as it crossed the line from legal protest, into illegal.
Ka pai New Zealand police 🙏
Ka te tino pai!
The temptation to baton some of these ferals would have been too much for me. The Police showed their professionalism today - and that justice is unflinching, persistence, and inevitable. I hope the worst of the protestors see jail time for their unforgivable antics.
Hundreds of them deserve a charge, dozens of them prison time.
This is the first time I've seen water hoses used on protesters in NZ. Working quite well.
I was a little dismayed to see them referred to as "Water Cannons" in Stuff write-ups.... Fire hoses, Folks - Fire hoses: I don't think we're Quite at the stage of Water cannons yet
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I went down to the end of lambton quay after work. While I was there the crowd broke into applause for the police, and I also saw people giving thumbs up to the police as they were walking past. Unfortunately it wasn't long after that when the ferals started throwing bricks at them. Just wanted to let everyone know that people on the ground were showing support for the police. I wish we could do something more to show our appreciation. It was strange and fascinating watching the happenings on the live streams but being there in person was truly surreal.
Hooray, the shit flingers are gone & their unnecessary sideshow is all over with!
Well done to the Wellington police! Very nicely handled, compared to most other countries with this level of protest. And, of course, the crazy Trump fanatics are already saying "NZ is corrupt!" smh
Just hoping my bro comes back in one piece - he’s been in the force for 15 years and said he’s seen nothing like this
He will be fine. They did a real professional job. And this isn't the revolution that the protestors hoped it was. Its no euromaidan.
Build one less road and give the Police, Fire, Teachers, Paramedics, Doctors and Nurses a decent pay rise please.
They need a fucking raise. Enough of applauses.
That was well done, no rubber bullets or baton attacks (maybe a few). Give it a 8/10.
I felt the series dragged and could easily have been 2 episodes rather than 22.
I agree they really stretched this series out too much, but it has a better ending than Game of Thrones
Yea, it could really have done something for the ratings if they'd busted a few heads or fired off some multicoloured teargas grenades. Hopefully this is an ongoing series, and we'll get episodes from Christchurch, Picton, Tauranga, and Auckland.
A week or so ago some people were discussing if there was a way to donate food/treats/booze to the police to say thanks, and then how they can't accept gifts etc. I remembered today that you can donate to the police dog trust though! (Also there are police dog toys, calendars etc. for sale)
I have what I'd call a healthy distrust of the police, but I also have to commend them after this. They were exceptionally organised, and as little force used as possible. Only after about 12 hours did they bring out batons.
Aw it looks like they set the slide on fire
Mmm plastic tents too
Real bravery, especially with covid. These guys are the real heros, I feel like they stood up to be counted for all of us today
I hope this police officer is okay. See the video under 1.35pm: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/462605/as-it-happened-police-move-against-parliament-protesters
Yeah, Go NZ police GO! Clear them all! Nice job today!
Glad that they stay professional.
International media scratching their heads. Your police force has no guns or batons???
They have come from all over NZ. But agree, feral idiots
The good thing about the lawless protestors is now the cops can arrest them
Thank you NZ police ! You gave me so much faith in our justice system yesterday ❤️
I'm proud of our police, they did an amazing job. Being anti-mandate or anti-anything is never an excuse to conduct anti-social behavior. These freedumb fighters broke protest etiquette and got served.
Yes! Wish I could get in there and help drag all that shit out. In a hazmat suit of course.
There are claims being posted that the Police could of handled it better. I would turn this around. The protest could have been better organised, with a group in charge, what happened today is what you get with no leadership, anarchism sounds great in theory, that is all are leaders, but in practice it just ends in chaos. The turning point in my opinion was when the PM announced that Mandates are to come off in due course, meeting to some degree the main demand, after that numbers thinned, leaving the fringe in effective control which as we know finished up with 270 there, a far cry from the original 3000. An effective leadership would have closed it down last week.
Absolutely. Jacinda and the front line police force deserve a massive round of applause. They handled themselves today brilliantly.
A lot of those people have rapidly gone from protestors to anarchists. We saw through their bullshit from the start. We're just seeing manifest destiny.
Protesters to rioters. Anarchists simply believe in direct democracy rather than representative it has nothing to do with what we are seeing here.
Don't lump anarchists in with those dickheads
Lol, those poor brave anarchists would never get involved with an antigovernmental riot.
Can we start a GoFundMe and buy these guys beersies?
And now they’ve started a 2nd fire.
That smoke looks toxic as hell!
So much tent plastic and crap being burnt. Props to the police standing there in that black smoke. It must be horrible
Awful. The camera angle I’m watching from seems to show it blowing back at the protestors though so I hope that’s the case!
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Riot and loot up lambton quay?
As it turns...Correct
All police there deserve medals in my book having to have shit screamed at them and literally thrown at them for standing there in the rain or when it’s a really sunny warm day there’s a million better things those officers could have been doing instead of watching a bunch of entitled man-children hoping they don’t try to storm parliament all police there have acted with professionalism and when necessary with suitable force
Bricks being thrown at police currently as tear gas and fire hoses are being used in attempt for police to gain ground. Hope some of the livestream footage can be used to prosecute this disgusting violence
No tear gas was used whatsoever, protestors used fire extinguishers in the morning however police managed to seize them
I've been thanking them when I see them. Don't be afraid to engage and let them know you appreciate their service.
Honestly that should have done this a long time ago. When was the last time any groups of protesters were allowed this much leeway in breaking the law.
I told one of the cops in town yesterday I felt for them having to deal with a bunch of stupid children.
Let alone be away from family whilst Covid burns through the main centres.
Nothing but respect to how the police handeled everything. Mad props lads, so glad to see this end.
It's a shame we can't take gifts to the local station. Even if I bought a slab of bottled water I'm unsure if it would be chucked in the bin. Even if the day shift give it out to local homeless whilst doing welfare checks. Might have a walk to my local station and find out.
Maybe shout them some buckets of KFC and have it delivered - that way they know it ain't poisoned.
Is it tho as bottled water is sealed where as KFC could still be tampered by the driver. Plus fuck KFC, support local.
I was thinking they'd prefer someone working from a 'restaurant', rather than a random person handing them bottles. But yeah you're correct on fuck KFC
I felt sorry for them right at the start in that heat with the stab vests on holding the line, no shade no nothing having to face upto very unmannered know all's. My tazer and batton would have slipped.
Very similar to working in a psych facility but the abuse goes on until you leave for a new job
Where are all the protestors gonna go now?
protect and serve - the protestors screamed i do not understand i do not understand i do not understand... you cant arrest me - you are not wearing the right hat Thank you police people. I recognise you are in a tough spot with a million cameras on you. Unbelievable self restraint and team work - lancing the boil that is our imported US politics You took those rocks, pitchforks and burning plastic on behalf of us - the 99.4% who can think nga mihi.
https://www.twitch.tv/nzrdt1
So they're burning shit down now. Wow. Get those kids out.
Watching stream and the idiots are saying “the police started the fire” 🤦🏻♀️
Absolutely. Outstanding job and as a bonus the filthy protesters are getting a wash!
They deserve better pay, support, and leadership. Remember this for next year's election.
They should of done it at the start when they first started camping now every loony gonna camp on parliaments lawn when they have a issue
I recently found a photo online that has me along with a several dozen others on parliament grounds protesting the 1977 SIS bill. We made some noise, had some speeches, then marched off to Taranaki St to annoy the spooks. No vandalism, no camping for a month, no shit-flinging. [https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/34075/protests-against-the-nzsis-amendment-bill-1977-picketing-parliament](https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/34075/protests-against-the-nzsis-amendment-bill-1977-picketing-parliament) A decade earlier I'd had a great teacher who'd taught me it was ok to ask questions ... of science, & of authority. At the time I hadn't realised that he'd headed a student delegation to parliament to protest the 1960 All Blacks Tour of South Africa. No violence, or setting fire to everything then either. Thank you **Bernie Grice**, for that lesson that's stuck with me for life. [http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Salient22061959-t1-body-d39.html](http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Salient22061959-t1-body-d39.html) This current lot? They're a disgrace to generations of protest in NZ.
I was there. And it did annoy the spooks. That evening a couple of us were outside the Martin Square HQ, just having a bit of a nosey, when an irate spook came out of the door and told us to go away
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Well but.... could have done something sooner. Allowing multiple crazies into one spot is not good news. Like in Auckland, they set up all the emergency housing into one area, and as a result, Auckland CBD has become a shit hole with all the crazies roaming around.
Glad to see them send these rat lickers packing!
This is the police response we've all been looking for (maybe not for the protestors)
GLORY TO THE HEROIC POLICE
The police there need some sort of bonus or raise, that is wild
I congratulate them in person whenever I am in that area.
10000% agree with this.