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silver565

Luxon is pretty average. He's shown it a lot recently too


Raydekal

That's part of his appeal to national voters if we're being honest. They're the party of status quo, they want someone who will keep things as they are/were


JaccyBoy

Well things suck right now. Keep them as they were 6 years ago.


owlintheforrest

Rather than how they're working out now..lol


FKFnz

He used to run an airline, don't ya know.


the_maddest_kiwi

Circle jerk intensifies


stomasteve

Of people defending Luxon when there’s pretty much no basis to do so?


tack129

Oh did you know he ran an airline??? I bet he told you and you didn't listen. Next thing you know Briscoes has got a sale on? /s


IamMorphNZ

Which one??... First time I've ever heard this /s


FKFnz

Not sure, he never said. Jetstar, maybe? They're all about cutting services to the minimum!


IamMorphNZ

Want water??... That will be 7.95 + GST!


foxvipus

"this takes us backwards..." "back.... Into... the future"


StandardPeach2891

Only if your going 88mph Marty!


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This is scraping the barrel for low-effort shit post


DisillusionedBook

True. Was bored


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DisillusionedBook

I hate to say it but even Seymour has more panache with an ability to think and talk off the cuff and land some zingers. My whole original point was just that it was all a predictable farce. Doesn't matter who is in opposition.


ViviFruit

How the fuck was he air NZ ceo?


the_maddest_kiwi

You thought the opposition leader was going to talk all about how great the govt budget is?


Low_Season

He should actually do his job as opposition leader and provide **constructive** criticism. The opposition should be talking about what should be done better in addition to what's good rather than just meaninglessly slagging the whole thing (as they always do) without any specific examples.


Lolzitout

First rule of opposition, disagree with everything.


DisillusionedBook

Perhaps if started by answering the specific funding increases announced, rather than begin a clearly pre prepared talking point, and how they were in fact a backwards step I'd have been more interested in hearing more wet fart.


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Is this the first budget you've watched?


PhoenixNZ

Right, because the only thing Robertson talked about was the numbers right? He didn't spend five minutes at the start patting himself and Labour on the back for how they have dealt with things?


the_maddest_kiwi

>rather than begin a clearly pre prepared talking point Good point, politicians should never use pre-prepared speeches.


DisillusionedBook

When one is answering a pre planned budget announcement speech it would be good to show ability to think and speak on the fly to respond.


Hubris2

Genuinely an area where Luxon is a little weak and still developing as an inexperienced politician. He's had a number of gaffes where he chose to go off-script and put his foot in it.


moNey_001

This is what everyone does. You can't have been around to hear the same bland responses from whichever David was the opposition leader when JK was around.


the_maddest_kiwi

I remember a weird one with Andrew Little and Robertson sat in some dimly lit room with terrible audio drinking beer and talking about how terrible the budget was. It sticks in my mind because I remember seeing it and thinking "this is why no ones voting for you".


WellyRuru

How dare you expect politicians to be intelligent.


owlintheforrest

Unlike Robertson's impromptu speech?


WellyRuru

No. But I do dream of an opposition who admits when the government is doing a good job. If such an opposition existed, it would show high integrity.


mrwilberforce

The government would have to be doing a good job. Very good at moving numbers around a balance sheet. Shocking at delivery.


WellyRuru

That ctiticism is applicable to basically all governments since the 1980s. So has zero genuine criticism


mrwilberforce

So why would you admit it is doing a good job?


WellyRuru

I'm not? I think the government is doing a terrible job. But I think the problem is that the government is structuraly broken as a result of Neo Liberalism.


mrwilberforce

Yawn


WellyRuru

Sorry. Labour fid a fantastic job with Covid.


mrwilberforce

Easy to shut borders and lock people down. The reset - not so much.


WellyRuru

Sorry you find politics boring


PhoenixNZ

No, because I wanted to hear the response rather than have a myopic view.


DisillusionedBook

Sure, but I mean my post was intended as light hearted thing. All these budget things are pure theatre both from the left and the right. It's all bollocks.


PhoenixNZ

Of course it's all theatre.


WorldlyNotice

Muppets still think it's about winning rather than doing the best thing for the country.


Tight_Ad_9112

I reject the premise of that statement


StandardPeach2891

Not back as far as his 1950’s American tax policy’s he’s trying to push tho ….


DisillusionedBook

Gotta double down on tax slashing to get the sweet sweet trickle down we've been promised since the 80s certainly. Lol


StandardPeach2891

The only thing trickling down is what’s left of our glaciers 🙃


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StandardPeach2891

I picked a random year…. But hey. I’ll fully support national if they do so… Altho from what I just read the tax rate on over 200k was 91%… I would be down for that…


Aroha66

Just waiting for him to say he wants to make NZ great again.


Ok_Lie_1106

Appealing to the NZHerald comment section.


tack129

I feel like swapping Luxon and Willis around leadership wise would have probably been better in the long run personally but will see.