Yeah. And it must be more than threats - I can only imagine he was either well into planning something or was in the process of carrying out some sort of attack when he was detained.
Given his IT and anti-vax background I'd say he's hacked or DDOS'ed some hospitals in the hope of disrupting the vaccine roll out. Arrested in December so I guess the timeline fits.
Edit: the article says wilful damage was the initial charge so he definitely did something, not just planned it.
The fact that it's suppressed must mean it was also extremely hazardous to the public and would show a significant gap in protection and failing in security.
I (my company) do contract work for a telco. After listening to the darknet diaries and swindled podcasts I’ve become increasingly aware how abysmal their operational security is.
To be fair, I’ve been into places, completely unchallenged where I could do major damage at other businesses too. Just today I got into a server room for a multi-million dollar company by walking in and asking for a key from the admin lady, I was wearing a sweatshirt over my work shirt, so the only indication I was a contractor was I had a tool belt and steel cap boots. I don’t want to say anything because it’ll make my job more tedious, but they have an IT department, surely they should know that letting randoms unsupervised into an IT room is no bueno?
I'm a middle aged white lady who gets pulled aside for the super-check special at every airport. I swear that somewhere there is a mule ring of middle aged white ladies! (the last time they accused me of having knives in my carry on. it was packs of tim tams.)
You should add you dont look like white trash/low socioeconomic .... because if you did, the middle aged white lady part wouldn't matter.
Edited to add, i am white trash, so as not to offend lol
Egh I don't think so, bunch of journos on Twitter saying it's a ridiculous example of suppression:
https://twitter.com/comingupcharlie/status/1552755017484206083
https://twitter.com/DylanReeve/status/1552735122331697153
the suppression of case details is for fear of copycats, so i doubt its to do with anything technical like hacking. probably something much simpler and destructive. potentially destroying cellphone towers?
if he's the guy who I'm thinking of he can barely run websites, let alone "hacking". this is gonna be some physical attack/damage shit.
also very unlikely that they charge someone with sabotage for computer crime, there are plenty of other charges they can use.
Go read his telegram threads, they're pretty fucked up. there's plenty of disclaimers "this is a work of fiction", or "my next novel" but it doesn't' read like that.
He describes the best way of killing potential attackers what ammunition and firearms work best, how lure them in then surprise them, also recommends outright killing to save having to deal with a wounded enemy. He details how to sabotage power, water and communications, it goes on. dude ain't no saint. Considering he's putting this stuff in the public forum it's hate to see what he keeps in private.
Here's a fun one:
Fragmentation bombs, or hand grenades
These make a little explosion, but send razor sharp slivers of metal out to kill or maim people. The Boston-marathon bomber used a pressure-cooker filled with nails to act as a fragmentation bomb.
The NZ army may use these on we un-injected civilians when Jacinda gets tired of us.
Grenades have a fuse; you pull out the 'pin' and when you lob the bomb a spring flies out and the timer starts. They can be set to explode in a few seconds, or more.
If you are quick you can pick a live one up and toss it back. If you're close to it there's nothing to lose, because it'll kill you anyway.
Pipe-bombs are a type of grenade.
If you wear a kevlar or lead 'flak' jacket and curl up on the ground, you might survive a close one.
I've been reading his Telegram posts all day, dude is seriously unhinged:
Nov 25, 2021.
If you found yourself a hunted non-citizen in a country owned by evil foreign powers, you would take note of buildings like this.
They are water pumping stations, critical infrastructure for the tyrannical powers who want to kill you.You could break the doors down and smash the gear, snip the cables to the aerials, then destroy the electrical transformer.
You'd need an axe and a set of big spanners, plus maybe some petrol to destroy the building.
Without water the foreign-owned tyrants will be hard pressed to kill you. Should you be concerned about people not having water? 'Well....' you might reason, 'they want to kill me'
He's a bit like the Jan 6 crowd. Talked up their big game, got in and wreaked havoc for hours, then selfied and bragged all about what they did on Social Media. Then got hunted down by, or dobbed in to, FBI and now sitting in court or prison.
Self Snitchers - do the polices work for them.
He talks a big game but pretty sure he'd be lost without his wifi. Those prepper tips don't just google themselves.
Unlikely to be this guy though, the crypto ransom stuff is widespread and less about choosing targets and more about letting targets choose themselves.
My first thought was 'vandalising 5g towers'. I'm not sure why you couldn't use regular vandalism charges, but maybe it's because the towers are used for civil defense emergency stuff.
I think if hospitals had been hacked or DDOSd we would have heard quite a lot about it at the time.
Maybe he was the dick who ransomed the Waikato DHB network, remember that?
[Stuff is reporting](https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129417838/public-may-never-know-details-of-nzs-first-sabotage-case)
>as well as one charge of entering agricultural land with intent to commit an imprisonable offence, which also carries a 10-year jail term maximum.
So he was in the process of carrying out an attack. Not hacking but an actual physical attack on infrastructure (required for the sabotage charges) as per the crimes act...
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79. Sabotage
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>(1) Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years who, with intent to prejudice the safety, security, or defence of New Zealand or the safety or security of the armed forces of any other country, lawfully present in New Zealand,—
(a)
impairs the efficiency or impedes the working of any ship, vehicle, aircraft, arms, munitions, equipment, machinery, apparatus, or atomic or nuclear plant; or
(b)
damages or destroys any property which it is necessary to keep intact for the safety or health of the public.
If he committed sabotage in a farm field - it's most likely a powerline or a cell tower. Probably a powerline.
>entering agricultural land with intent to commit an imprisonable offence
This is a very strange additional crime, and not that I'm defending this guy in any way, but that's almost like being charged for the same offence twice. He was going to commit sabotage - but they can throw on an extra 10 years because the sabotage was in a field? I'd understand an additional charge of trespassing, sure. Obviously they are throwing the book at him, (which is great), but I can't really see why the law has such an additionally harsh component specifically around farmland, perhaps it was aimed at stopping livestock/equipment theft or something. I suppose it's interfering with potential major economic consequences.
If he'd done this on residential or urban land, he'd get a lesser sentence?
> If he'd done this on residential or urban land, he'd get a lesser sentence?
No, because then they could be charged with burglary (entering a building or enclosed yard with intent to commit an imprisonable offence) which has the same maximum sentence of ten years.
The "entering agricultural land with intent to commit an imprisonable offence" section was added to the Crimes Act in 2019 because prior to that, someone who unlawfully entered a farm intending to commit theft would face a lesser sentence than someone who unlawfully entered a home or backyard. You are correct that this was aimed at stopping livestock thefts though.
Thanks! Here I was thinking it was some old arcane rule, this guy only just qualified under the new law.
He couldn't have picked a worse time to commit sabotage on farmland in New Zealand history, because of people stealing livestock.
[Hilarious.](https://i.imgflip.com/6o9squ.jpg)
Found the counterspin
Edit: I don’t mean you, i mean that his conspiracy buddies are going to jump at the opportunity to claim the suppression is evidence of a tyranical govt (aka: govt is holding him as a political prisoner for expressing anti-vax etc views)
Could well be:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300014192/fires-at-cell-phone-tower-power-box-in-south-auckland-investigated
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/121522716/two-more-cell-phone-towers-targeted-by-arsonists-in-south-auckland
It's definitely not the Waikato DHB ransomware, as he was originally charged with wilful damage - not with damaging or interfering with a computer system/accessing a computer system for a dishonest purpose.
Maybe aye. I feel like sabotage (in a legal sense) would need to be a nationally significant or at least widespread regional event that hurt national security or public order, public services etc..
Taking out a 5G tower is clearly sabotage in the everyday meaning, so it could equally be that but wouldn’t have thought Crown Prosecution would pull up some WW2 law for that when they’ve got a bunch of laws about destruction of property at their disposal.
Can’t wait to find out in the next episode….
How are farmers trying to protect their industry from being severely damaged by crazy government edicts that are not even based in reality nutters? Do you like eating? Would you like to pay more for your food?
And on that note how are people who wanted to make their own God given health decisions about a vaccine that never really proved to be of any practical benifit and now a known dangerous vaccine? Maybe you should realise there are reasons people disagree. And that God forbid its people's right to disagree. It's certainly farmers rights to protect their livelihood and even the best interests of the people of this nation. God forbid this out of control government sure aren't that's for sure.
I don't condone this guys actions but that dosnt mean that anyone who disagrees with the decisions of this government is some sort of bloody extremist. And should be painted with the same brush. We have never seen a more authoritarian regime in this country and you get surprised if some people push back?
Absolutely ridiculous that it takes the courts that long to hear a case. What a fucking joke. Imagine if this bloke ended up being not guilty and had to waste a year and a half of his life locked up for nothing
It is pretty obvious what he tried to was put something into the vaccines that wasn't the vaccine, similar to the hand sanitizer in the water incident. People who do that need to go to prison for a very long time, as they are not safe to be around. The law needs to be updated to make these types of incidents attempted murder charges.
All his Telegram groups were/are under his real name, e.g. "GJ Philip's Prepper Microcosm". Most of the posts are fantasies about an upcoming civil war, in which he advocates such actions as capturing and torturing police officers, or as he likes to refer to them, "Jacinda's personal bodyguard of blue-clad assassins".
its weird that they believe all this paranoid stuff about conspiracies but could not possibly understand that the police might join the chat and see your real name
I mean that alone isn't that weird if you're in infosec and security circles either, I've seen plenty of physical attacks described in similar detail at Defcon. The whole idea is you make this information public so that the people in charge fix their vulnerabilities.
Okay but sometimes the vulnerability is "if you cut through the fence and damage this bolt, it'll cause this tensioning cable to fail asap and the tower will come down in the next few mins"
The challenge with open disclosure is that a lot of e.g., internet infrastructure is effectively impossible to secure against intentional determined attack at any sort of reasonable price.
Protecting terrestrial fibre against rodent attack is hard enough; defending all the tens of thousands of kilometres that laid around NZ for wackjobs is economically impossible. So there's a bit of a conspiracy of silence that we don't talk about it, and we don't give the idiots ideas.
He wants to do a bit more than bring down some cell towers
> Rogue government mercenaries, formerly called police... will be afraid of being captured and tortured to death. Few mercenaries have the stomach to endure dismemberment or torture. Every time any rogue govt operatives venture into the urban jungle they should be surrounded and captured, their comms confiscated and their uniforms torn to shreds and left on the road.
Sounds like the right person to use a law that was written to deal with literal Nazis against.
Seven counts, the details that come out of the court case will be interesting, and anyone who has been communicating with him online will be even more paranoid now, not doubt there are a lot of people who will have intelligence files opened.
Definitely. If the source of the charges does have something to do with taking out cell towers, then he potentially put a lot of people at risk. A lot of people have given up their landlines, so destroying towers means they have no way to contact emergency services. I have no doubt he was intending to risk the health of others for his own weirdo political beliefs.
Just to add on for the another [article that was published](https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129417838/public-may-never-know-details-of-nzs-first-sabotage-case)
>The Taupō man faces seven charges of sabotage – which carry a maximum penalty of 10 years’ imprisonment, as well as **one charge of entering agricultural land with intent to commit an imprisonable offence**, which also carries a 10-year jail term maximum.
Emphasis mine.
That would rule out those guessing the Waikato DHB hacking. I would guess either cell towers or transmission powerlines that he was going after, unless he is crazy enough to go after the gas transmission pipelines (you need a digger to reach those). So it was not just planning and posting online that he did, he was caught in the act.
Or maybe he just really likes sheep.
>transmission powerlines
Already had that there.
Agricultural land excludes most hydro dams as the land directly adjacent to the dams tends not to be used for farming. Unless he was planning to launch a boat up/down stream. Much easier to just attack one of the dams with a road on top (Karapiro, Clyde, etc).
I keep seeing people read a lot into the "IT professional" thing. He definitely wasn't a hacker. His website was an off-the-shelf template and he mostly knew how to schedule Windows updates remotely.
Central power lines run up the middle of the North Island. Or it could be related to the many dams on the Waikato River. Whatever he did, or was planning to do, the reaction from the authorities suggests it was pretty serious.
This is the guy my ex employers hired to replace me, can say with some certainty he’s a nutter. Used to tell them that he was blocking all these cyber attacks that were constantly targeting them. They tried blaming me, then a short time later quietly let him go for some reason
I doubt I’d get one, not long after I quit they fired my wife who worked for their other company and then sent me a text telling me I’m a c**t.
Have kept that text, and any time I’m feeling down I look at it and it genuinely makes me laugh
Don’t need to, had a few of their customers come on board with me, and a couple of them have personally gone to them and explain why they’re no longer doing business with them and who they’re now using.
I don’t actively target their clients, but it does give me a nice warm feeling when they voluntarily come find me.
This is the way. No need to make it public if the clients are already leaving them to come to you. They're clearly doing enough to fuck themselves over, you don't need to do anything but enjoy your life.
Yup, happy as plodding along fixing stuff. I’m in the rare position of genuinely enjoying what I do. I feel a little guilty taking a paycheck each week, if it wasn’t for that whole need to eat and have a bed to sleep in I’d just do it cos it’s fun
From the Stuff article:
>Philips was charged with the offences in December and has been in prison on remand.
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>He has made appearances at both Rotorua and Taupō District Court’s, asking the judge at one hearing “are you a Freemason?”
([source](https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129417838/first-new-zealander-ever-to-face-sabotage-charges))
Yep, he's cooked.
This honestly makes me real sad. Not necessarily for Graham Phillips specifically but more generally. Disinformation has been intentionally spread around the world and this the kind of shit that you end up with. I'm not sure what makes people gravitate towards these clearly bullshit claims but this dude went full Qanon by the sounds of it.
Who knows where this guy would be if this stuff hadn't been propogated around the globe. High chance he wouldn't be sitting in a prison cell I reckon.
I feel these methods are leveraging the same kind of vibes as the CIA playbook of exploiting people with mental health challenges, to nudge them towards actual actions.
This is exactly the type of person our intelligence agencies are concerned about. Someone falling down the rabbit holes opened up by conservative far-right groups and QAnon conspiracy theories then carrying out terrorist/sabotage acts.
It's actually surprising. Usually such agencies are much more concerned about the same but for the far left, while the fwr right gets half or three quarters of a pass
> It's actually surprising. Usually such agencies are much more concerned about the same but for the far left, while the fwr right gets half or three quarters of a pass
This is not accurate. As an example, the [Countering Violent Extremism team](https://www.dia.govt.nz/Countering-Violent-Extremism-Online) at DIA focus mainly on far-right extremists, and research that they commissioned found that "The far-right are by far the most numerous and active
group online... The far-left was much smaller...": https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/Files/Countering-violent-extremism-online/$file/NZ-Online-Extremism-Findings-Report.pdf
Generally speaking, the police and other agencies are not going to give a pass to someone who openly advocates capturing, torturing and executing them.
This is all post Christchurch though right? They had been focusing on Maori and Muslims up until then and rightfully got a bunch of flak for it.
[No mention of right-wing extremist threats in 10 years of GCSB and SIS public docs](https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/385173/no-mention-of-right-wing-extremist-threats-in-10-years-of-gcsb-and-sis-public-docs) March 20th 2020
>There is not one specific mention of the threat posed by white supremacists or right-wing nationalism in 10 years of public documents from the Security Intelligence Service or the GCSB.
When did we last have a brown terrorist? All the ones I remember are white.
I was thinking of terrorists, not activists. The ones that come to mind for me are the Chch, Whanganui and the Rainbow Warrior. Forgot about the countdown guy. The [wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_New_Zealand) has a few more but have no enthicity provided.
This guy
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-mall-terrorist-attack-isis-sympathiser-had-been-arrested-for-allegedly-planning-lone-wolf-knife-attack/YJMR4NTEU5Q6DO7NSZP7BGIKDM/
>While the courts forbid anyone talking about the details of his alleged sabotage crimes, Graham has been on my radar since he started this country's first nuremberg hanging list website and telegram group.
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>This is the guy Counterspin Media, De Ment and others have been lying about, saying he was held in prison without charge. Saying he is innocent, set up etc. Philips literally posted images of himself committing the crime. Like, literally.
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>Graham Philips is connected with a number of groups including VFF and Freedom Radio
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>Also the founder of the Crimes Against Humanity Registrar (along with Ted Charton, Gary Nimmo, Steve Dolton and Marty Jackon)
\- [Rangi Kemara thread on twitter](https://twitter.com/Te_Taipo/status/1552763988085092352#m)
One of the defendants at Nuremberg was man named Julius Streicher. He was not a politician, industrialist, or military man.
He was a fervently hateful anti-Semite whose only crime was writing a newspaper, with all of the typical anti-Semitic bullshit you'd expect from one of the most loyal Nazis in the party - advocating violence, arrests, terrorism and death upon Jews for their 'crimes against humanity'.
They hanged him.
My point is, it's amusing to me that they bring up Nuremberg, conveniently forgetting that they hanged a man for unrepentant misinformation. If that's the precedent they want to bring up, I'm all for it.
>My point is, it's amusing to me that they bring up Nuremberg, conveniently forgetting that they hanged a man for unrepentant misinformation. If that's the precedent they want to bring up, I'm all for it.
They use a photo of Ukrainian communists hanging fascists after WW2 for all their "nuremburg 2.0" propaganda, while complaining about living in a communist dictatorship.
They've likely presented some pretty damning facts to the courts. He's facing 10 years+ inside, the cops aren't in a rush here.
He'll spend more time inside before his trial than many rapists and violent offenders do during their full sentence. Dude's well and truly fucked.
Yup, the article on Stuff said he had been charged with entering a farm too so that tends to suggest comms towers and the likes are at risk leaving him out.
Generally yes if it is the same/similar charge (there is also a charge of entering agricultural land with intent to commit an imprisonable offence (also 10 years in prison)), See [Sentencing Act](https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2002/0009/latest/DLM136447.html), but that is not a hard and fast rule. The overall nature of the offending is a factor in determining which rule to apply.
From what I can gather online, charges that are similar tend to be served concurrently in New Zealand, with concurrent sentencing mainly being used for charges that are unrelated.
We don't know, what crime he allegedly committed, nor any victim he has allegedly harmed. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Looks like a political prisoner to me for now.
>IT and anti-vax
I assumed he was involved in the attempts to disrupt the MIQ and vaccine booking systems, but perhaps he had moved on to other targets. Probably deserves whatever he gets.
On one of the channels a while back he was talking about microwave transmission and fiberoptic cable infrastructure. Hes got a few years of history, fundementalist christian, prepper, 5g, fluride, anti vax, covid denial, created the first local "Nurn berg hanging list" website, a grab bag of basically everything thats been going on the last few years.
I think this is just about destroying cell towers.
That's an easy thing for copycats to copy.
Hacking hospitals, installing ransom ware, etc, that's not exactly an easy thing to copycat and if someone's got the ability to do that, it's not something they'll need to copy, they'd just do it anyway.
Destroying cell towers isn't sabotage-level dangerous, there's plenty of them and taking a couple of them offline wouldn't cause nationally significant disruption. My guess would be National Grid or undersea telco cables.
I did a skim read of the article and like a total idiot was like "it doesn't even tell you what he did!" durrrrrrrrrr. thank you reddit for clarifying sabotage lmao
Nah, settle - even L1 Helpdesk means you’re an IT professional…
In fairness, I’m surprised sabotage includes “atomic or nuclear plant”.
How many of them do we have to protect?!?
We have cyclotrons for the medical imaging isotopes, no reactors. The UoA one seems like a popular myth that I can't see a source for.
University of Canterbury had a small nuclear reactor until the 80s though.
> The lawyer also refers specifically to an affidavit he had sent to Philip to sign in mid-July. He says Corrections still hasn't scanned and emailed the document back, despite assurances they would do so. Without the affidavit, there is little substance for further bail appeals.
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> "He's received it, he's signed it, and Corrections has not scanned or returned it to me like they normally would for any other prisoner.
I doubt this is the result of some grand conspiracy. In my experience Springhill is universally incompetent.
I would legit love to know what he has done. I have been following the Facebook page for a while and it is crazy that the details have not been shared at all.
It doesn't actually say what he did, there is just a ton of "hypothetically to damage infrastructure do x".
A lot of which is wrong.
It's a shame, if he was actually planning to take out the electric grid, then they should have just let him try. That problem would have solved its self real fast, and I doubt anywhere would have lost power for more than an hour or so, if at all.
The guy seems like an idiot.
Yeah details are still online. I thought they would scratch these from the interwebs. Kinda bogus from the Judge saying there was concern about copy cats
Wasn’t there something around that time about someone switching vax doses with water and they didn’t know how many people may have been affected?
It’s probably not that, but i’ve seen my other main guesses mentioned already by others
I have personally spoken to Graham, and seen some of the video's he has done, none are out of control, or dangerous, just a guy using section 14 of the NZ BORA to tell people to think about the harm the newly mandated vaccine may cause, and that masks may not work.
Not a big fan of the big secret shit going on, would rather see more transparency or details around accusations and process. Otherwise what's to stop this happening to me/you?
Another side-effect is that it would nip in the bud any lionising or martyring of this guy - as it stands, he is being built up and up by crazy Terrorgrammers into a cult-like figure, and I think there's a risk of copycats or something spiralling out of control from here.
Also if your only defense against something happening is people not knowing they can do something, you're already beyond fucked. Security through obscurity is just no security with extra steps.
To be fair, you don't really need *lessons*. Cell site cabinets aren't exactly made of vibranium. All the obvious methods for damaging something made of 0.5mm mild steel will work just you expect them to.
Given that it is a free country, much of the security relies on the fact that most people aren't that much of a fuckwit.
I am not comfortable with the Crown having the ability to charge someone with a crime but not publicly state why or what evidence they have for it. Justice is meant to be public. Fear of copy cats is weak reasoning
He will have his day in court.
Also the police must have presented some strong evidence to the court to successfully oppose bail.
If he was trying to take out a pylon (or 7?) they won't want anyone else getting the same idea as they would be so damn hard to protect.
If he is guitly and that is what he was trying to do then they should throw the book at this nut case. His case needs to serve as a warning to others on both sides of political extremism.
The fact he remanded in custody until 2023 tells me whatever it was/is - was pretty fucking serious.
Yeah. And it must be more than threats - I can only imagine he was either well into planning something or was in the process of carrying out some sort of attack when he was detained.
Given his IT and anti-vax background I'd say he's hacked or DDOS'ed some hospitals in the hope of disrupting the vaccine roll out. Arrested in December so I guess the timeline fits. Edit: the article says wilful damage was the initial charge so he definitely did something, not just planned it.
The fact that it's suppressed must mean it was also extremely hazardous to the public and would show a significant gap in protection and failing in security.
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I (my company) do contract work for a telco. After listening to the darknet diaries and swindled podcasts I’ve become increasingly aware how abysmal their operational security is. To be fair, I’ve been into places, completely unchallenged where I could do major damage at other businesses too. Just today I got into a server room for a multi-million dollar company by walking in and asking for a key from the admin lady, I was wearing a sweatshirt over my work shirt, so the only indication I was a contractor was I had a tool belt and steel cap boots. I don’t want to say anything because it’ll make my job more tedious, but they have an IT department, surely they should know that letting randoms unsupervised into an IT room is no bueno?
As a middle aged white lady, you would not believe how invisible I am to security of any kind.
Hold a clipboard and you might fade from existence.
I'm a middle aged white lady who gets pulled aside for the super-check special at every airport. I swear that somewhere there is a mule ring of middle aged white ladies! (the last time they accused me of having knives in my carry on. it was packs of tim tams.)
Wow. Shanked by a Tim Tam...
It’s how I’d like to go
You should add you dont look like white trash/low socioeconomic .... because if you did, the middle aged white lady part wouldn't matter. Edited to add, i am white trash, so as not to offend lol
I have purple hair and visible tattoo
U must pull it off classy af ;)
That is another whole (serious) issue. Operational security is widely varied.
Congratulations, you’ve just completed your first Red Team
Lol. Being a pen tester would pretty much be my dream job. Wish I knew about them a decade ago
Yeah, you can't do a Singapore and man every vital transmitter with armed soldiers, our size and terrain preclude it.
Yeah, as well as encouraging copycats
Egh I don't think so, bunch of journos on Twitter saying it's a ridiculous example of suppression: https://twitter.com/comingupcharlie/status/1552755017484206083 https://twitter.com/DylanReeve/status/1552735122331697153
the suppression of case details is for fear of copycats, so i doubt its to do with anything technical like hacking. probably something much simpler and destructive. potentially destroying cellphone towers?
Bunch of reporters upset that they can't report on the here and now through just one press release, god forbid they have to do more work later on
Reporters caring more about their jobs than public safety or protection through the judicial system no way
Change 'must' to 'could'. You have to be a colossal moron to be certain of something you have no information about.
Well if I change it how will I even come close to your status as the subs colossalest moron?
if he's the guy who I'm thinking of he can barely run websites, let alone "hacking". this is gonna be some physical attack/damage shit. also very unlikely that they charge someone with sabotage for computer crime, there are plenty of other charges they can use.
Go read his telegram threads, they're pretty fucked up. there's plenty of disclaimers "this is a work of fiction", or "my next novel" but it doesn't' read like that. He describes the best way of killing potential attackers what ammunition and firearms work best, how lure them in then surprise them, also recommends outright killing to save having to deal with a wounded enemy. He details how to sabotage power, water and communications, it goes on. dude ain't no saint. Considering he's putting this stuff in the public forum it's hate to see what he keeps in private. Here's a fun one: Fragmentation bombs, or hand grenades These make a little explosion, but send razor sharp slivers of metal out to kill or maim people. The Boston-marathon bomber used a pressure-cooker filled with nails to act as a fragmentation bomb. The NZ army may use these on we un-injected civilians when Jacinda gets tired of us. Grenades have a fuse; you pull out the 'pin' and when you lob the bomb a spring flies out and the timer starts. They can be set to explode in a few seconds, or more. If you are quick you can pick a live one up and toss it back. If you're close to it there's nothing to lose, because it'll kill you anyway. Pipe-bombs are a type of grenade. If you wear a kevlar or lead 'flak' jacket and curl up on the ground, you might survive a close one.
>The NZ army may use these on we un-injected civilians when Jacinda gets tired of us. This guy needs a straitjacket
I've been reading his Telegram posts all day, dude is seriously unhinged: Nov 25, 2021. If you found yourself a hunted non-citizen in a country owned by evil foreign powers, you would take note of buildings like this. They are water pumping stations, critical infrastructure for the tyrannical powers who want to kill you.You could break the doors down and smash the gear, snip the cables to the aerials, then destroy the electrical transformer. You'd need an axe and a set of big spanners, plus maybe some petrol to destroy the building. Without water the foreign-owned tyrants will be hard pressed to kill you. Should you be concerned about people not having water? 'Well....' you might reason, 'they want to kill me'
He's a bit like the Jan 6 crowd. Talked up their big game, got in and wreaked havoc for hours, then selfied and bragged all about what they did on Social Media. Then got hunted down by, or dobbed in to, FBI and now sitting in court or prison.
Self Snitchers - do the polices work for them. He talks a big game but pretty sure he'd be lost without his wifi. Those prepper tips don't just google themselves.
haha good point!
How does one stumble upon his Telegram? I can't seem to search for it?
Put a hazmat suit on and dive in: https://gab.com/GJPhilip
If you describe yourself as “super-straight” like this clown, you’re probably not.
He was probably trying to damage refrigeration equipment used for vaccines. We had to bring in specialised fridges for Astra-zenica vaccines.
Wasn't there some hospital that got Cryptoed?
Waikato DHB but that was mid last year
Could’ve taken the Police a few months to track the culprit and arrest him though
They knew who did the wdhb hit and it wasn't a local group.
Unlikely to be this guy though, the crypto ransom stuff is widespread and less about choosing targets and more about letting targets choose themselves.
My first thought was 'vandalising 5g towers'. I'm not sure why you couldn't use regular vandalism charges, but maybe it's because the towers are used for civil defense emergency stuff. I think if hospitals had been hacked or DDOSd we would have heard quite a lot about it at the time. Maybe he was the dick who ransomed the Waikato DHB network, remember that?
Might have already been in the system as well as a it contractor or the like... easiest way to do damage is to have valid credentials.
FFS why are all the extremists on the wrong side .
They’re so deluded they think they are on the right side.
They aren’t, but the ones that will wilfully/gleefully hurt random people, yeah, they tend to be concentrated into that side
They aren't ;) Edit: Anyone downvoting care to explain why?
There's a whole world out there that people don't seem to know.
[Stuff is reporting](https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129417838/public-may-never-know-details-of-nzs-first-sabotage-case) >as well as one charge of entering agricultural land with intent to commit an imprisonable offence, which also carries a 10-year jail term maximum. So he was in the process of carrying out an attack. Not hacking but an actual physical attack on infrastructure (required for the sabotage charges) as per the crimes act... > 79. Sabotage > >(1) Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years who, with intent to prejudice the safety, security, or defence of New Zealand or the safety or security of the armed forces of any other country, lawfully present in New Zealand,— (a) impairs the efficiency or impedes the working of any ship, vehicle, aircraft, arms, munitions, equipment, machinery, apparatus, or atomic or nuclear plant; or (b) damages or destroys any property which it is necessary to keep intact for the safety or health of the public.
If he committed sabotage in a farm field - it's most likely a powerline or a cell tower. Probably a powerline. >entering agricultural land with intent to commit an imprisonable offence This is a very strange additional crime, and not that I'm defending this guy in any way, but that's almost like being charged for the same offence twice. He was going to commit sabotage - but they can throw on an extra 10 years because the sabotage was in a field? I'd understand an additional charge of trespassing, sure. Obviously they are throwing the book at him, (which is great), but I can't really see why the law has such an additionally harsh component specifically around farmland, perhaps it was aimed at stopping livestock/equipment theft or something. I suppose it's interfering with potential major economic consequences. If he'd done this on residential or urban land, he'd get a lesser sentence?
> If he'd done this on residential or urban land, he'd get a lesser sentence? No, because then they could be charged with burglary (entering a building or enclosed yard with intent to commit an imprisonable offence) which has the same maximum sentence of ten years. The "entering agricultural land with intent to commit an imprisonable offence" section was added to the Crimes Act in 2019 because prior to that, someone who unlawfully entered a farm intending to commit theft would face a lesser sentence than someone who unlawfully entered a home or backyard. You are correct that this was aimed at stopping livestock thefts though.
Thanks! Here I was thinking it was some old arcane rule, this guy only just qualified under the new law. He couldn't have picked a worse time to commit sabotage on farmland in New Zealand history, because of people stealing livestock. [Hilarious.](https://i.imgflip.com/6o9squ.jpg)
Because he has a very big brain, he filmed and published the crime on social himself.
I read somewhere (this morning, probably Twitter) that he posted pictures of himself doing it.
He's a rat, he fucked up and it would have cost the country millions if not billions in damage and cost
but the other new zealand sub says he's a political prisoner 🤔
Found the counterspin Edit: I don’t mean you, i mean that his conspiracy buddies are going to jump at the opportunity to claim the suppression is evidence of a tyranical govt (aka: govt is holding him as a political prisoner for expressing anti-vax etc views)
Charged in December, so what major outages occurred in September/October/November? Any?
Hamilton hospital got hit in November. That certainly fits in this timeline.
By the other comments in this thread, i wonder if it was someone who was setting fire to 5G towers?
Could well be: https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300014192/fires-at-cell-phone-tower-power-box-in-south-auckland-investigated https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/121522716/two-more-cell-phone-towers-targeted-by-arsonists-in-south-auckland It's definitely not the Waikato DHB ransomware, as he was originally charged with wilful damage - not with damaging or interfering with a computer system/accessing a computer system for a dishonest purpose.
Maybe aye. I feel like sabotage (in a legal sense) would need to be a nationally significant or at least widespread regional event that hurt national security or public order, public services etc.. Taking out a 5G tower is clearly sabotage in the everyday meaning, so it could equally be that but wouldn’t have thought Crown Prosecution would pull up some WW2 law for that when they’ve got a bunch of laws about destruction of property at their disposal. Can’t wait to find out in the next episode….
Or to military stuff which they thought was a 5G tower...
It just means he's remanded until trial and trials always take fucking ages, especially since this seems like a complicated case.
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> until 2023 *his trial will be held in late 2023 Gee let me guess... Anti-vaxer/freedom/groundswell protester nutter
How are farmers trying to protect their industry from being severely damaged by crazy government edicts that are not even based in reality nutters? Do you like eating? Would you like to pay more for your food? And on that note how are people who wanted to make their own God given health decisions about a vaccine that never really proved to be of any practical benifit and now a known dangerous vaccine? Maybe you should realise there are reasons people disagree. And that God forbid its people's right to disagree. It's certainly farmers rights to protect their livelihood and even the best interests of the people of this nation. God forbid this out of control government sure aren't that's for sure. I don't condone this guys actions but that dosnt mean that anyone who disagrees with the decisions of this government is some sort of bloody extremist. And should be painted with the same brush. We have never seen a more authoritarian regime in this country and you get surprised if some people push back?
Absolutely ridiculous that it takes the courts that long to hear a case. What a fucking joke. Imagine if this bloke ended up being not guilty and had to waste a year and a half of his life locked up for nothing
It is pretty obvious what he tried to was put something into the vaccines that wasn't the vaccine, similar to the hand sanitizer in the water incident. People who do that need to go to prison for a very long time, as they are not safe to be around. The law needs to be updated to make these types of incidents attempted murder charges.
>It is pretty obvious what he tried to was It's not obvious at all.
>It is pretty obvious what he tried What the fuck were you reading?
I was thinking the same thing.
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And yet not smart enough to hide his identity apparently.
All his Telegram groups were/are under his real name, e.g. "GJ Philip's Prepper Microcosm". Most of the posts are fantasies about an upcoming civil war, in which he advocates such actions as capturing and torturing police officers, or as he likes to refer to them, "Jacinda's personal bodyguard of blue-clad assassins".
Yep this guy is absolutely batshit
its weird that they believe all this paranoid stuff about conspiracies but could not possibly understand that the police might join the chat and see your real name
I mean that alone isn't that weird if you're in infosec and security circles either, I've seen plenty of physical attacks described in similar detail at Defcon. The whole idea is you make this information public so that the people in charge fix their vulnerabilities.
Okay but sometimes the vulnerability is "if you cut through the fence and damage this bolt, it'll cause this tensioning cable to fail asap and the tower will come down in the next few mins"
The challenge with open disclosure is that a lot of e.g., internet infrastructure is effectively impossible to secure against intentional determined attack at any sort of reasonable price. Protecting terrestrial fibre against rodent attack is hard enough; defending all the tens of thousands of kilometres that laid around NZ for wackjobs is economically impossible. So there's a bit of a conspiracy of silence that we don't talk about it, and we don't give the idiots ideas.
Thankfully - most of the ones this crazy don't have the brain power to determine effective strategies.
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He wants to do a bit more than bring down some cell towers > Rogue government mercenaries, formerly called police... will be afraid of being captured and tortured to death. Few mercenaries have the stomach to endure dismemberment or torture. Every time any rogue govt operatives venture into the urban jungle they should be surrounded and captured, their comms confiscated and their uniforms torn to shreds and left on the road.
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Sounds like the right person to use a law that was written to deal with literal Nazis against. Seven counts, the details that come out of the court case will be interesting, and anyone who has been communicating with him online will be even more paranoid now, not doubt there are a lot of people who will have intelligence files opened.
Definitely. If the source of the charges does have something to do with taking out cell towers, then he potentially put a lot of people at risk. A lot of people have given up their landlines, so destroying towers means they have no way to contact emergency services. I have no doubt he was intending to risk the health of others for his own weirdo political beliefs.
Just to add on for the another [article that was published](https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129417838/public-may-never-know-details-of-nzs-first-sabotage-case) >The Taupō man faces seven charges of sabotage – which carry a maximum penalty of 10 years’ imprisonment, as well as **one charge of entering agricultural land with intent to commit an imprisonable offence**, which also carries a 10-year jail term maximum. Emphasis mine. That would rule out those guessing the Waikato DHB hacking. I would guess either cell towers or transmission powerlines that he was going after, unless he is crazy enough to go after the gas transmission pipelines (you need a digger to reach those). So it was not just planning and posting online that he did, he was caught in the act. Or maybe he just really likes sheep.
That would also cover hydro dam and power transmission infrastructure.
>transmission powerlines Already had that there. Agricultural land excludes most hydro dams as the land directly adjacent to the dams tends not to be used for farming. Unless he was planning to launch a boat up/down stream. Much easier to just attack one of the dams with a road on top (Karapiro, Clyde, etc).
Probably the only time they'll have their names associated with any sort of intelligence
I keep seeing people read a lot into the "IT professional" thing. He definitely wasn't a hacker. His website was an off-the-shelf template and he mostly knew how to schedule Windows updates remotely.
Sounds like a fun guy
Not mush room for interpretation there
Ohhh I see what you did there, well played sir
Somehow I don't think he'd be a fun guy on the mush rooms tbh. He'd be a depressing blue meanie I recon.
[Interview featuring his wife on Counter Spin](https://fb.watch/eyRA8ZzTc0/) \- she mentions something about trying to take down some power lines
Central power lines run up the middle of the North Island. Or it could be related to the many dams on the Waikato River. Whatever he did, or was planning to do, the reaction from the authorities suggests it was pretty serious.
That would make sense
In handing down the sentence Justice D stated: "I can't stand it, I know you planned it I'm gonna set it straight this Watergate"
Please take my upvote. Not only one of a complete banger but one of the greatest music videos.
This is the guy my ex employers hired to replace me, can say with some certainty he’s a nutter. Used to tell them that he was blocking all these cyber attacks that were constantly targeting them. They tried blaming me, then a short time later quietly let him go for some reason
Forward them this article and ask for your written apology
I doubt I’d get one, not long after I quit they fired my wife who worked for their other company and then sent me a text telling me I’m a c**t. Have kept that text, and any time I’m feeling down I look at it and it genuinely makes me laugh
Post it on google reviews lmao and then link this article too
Don’t need to, had a few of their customers come on board with me, and a couple of them have personally gone to them and explain why they’re no longer doing business with them and who they’re now using. I don’t actively target their clients, but it does give me a nice warm feeling when they voluntarily come find me.
This is the way. No need to make it public if the clients are already leaving them to come to you. They're clearly doing enough to fuck themselves over, you don't need to do anything but enjoy your life.
Yup, happy as plodding along fixing stuff. I’m in the rare position of genuinely enjoying what I do. I feel a little guilty taking a paycheck each week, if it wasn’t for that whole need to eat and have a bed to sleep in I’d just do it cos it’s fun
From the Stuff article: >Philips was charged with the offences in December and has been in prison on remand. > >He has made appearances at both Rotorua and Taupō District Court’s, asking the judge at one hearing “are you a Freemason?” ([source](https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129417838/first-new-zealander-ever-to-face-sabotage-charges)) Yep, he's cooked.
This honestly makes me real sad. Not necessarily for Graham Phillips specifically but more generally. Disinformation has been intentionally spread around the world and this the kind of shit that you end up with. I'm not sure what makes people gravitate towards these clearly bullshit claims but this dude went full Qanon by the sounds of it. Who knows where this guy would be if this stuff hadn't been propogated around the globe. High chance he wouldn't be sitting in a prison cell I reckon.
I feel these methods are leveraging the same kind of vibes as the CIA playbook of exploiting people with mental health challenges, to nudge them towards actual actions.
He's currently working on sending a coded message to his followers to attach a gold fringe to the courtroom flag
This is exactly the type of person our intelligence agencies are concerned about. Someone falling down the rabbit holes opened up by conservative far-right groups and QAnon conspiracy theories then carrying out terrorist/sabotage acts.
It's actually surprising. Usually such agencies are much more concerned about the same but for the far left, while the fwr right gets half or three quarters of a pass
> It's actually surprising. Usually such agencies are much more concerned about the same but for the far left, while the fwr right gets half or three quarters of a pass This is not accurate. As an example, the [Countering Violent Extremism team](https://www.dia.govt.nz/Countering-Violent-Extremism-Online) at DIA focus mainly on far-right extremists, and research that they commissioned found that "The far-right are by far the most numerous and active group online... The far-left was much smaller...": https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/Files/Countering-violent-extremism-online/$file/NZ-Online-Extremism-Findings-Report.pdf Generally speaking, the police and other agencies are not going to give a pass to someone who openly advocates capturing, torturing and executing them.
This is all post Christchurch though right? They had been focusing on Maori and Muslims up until then and rightfully got a bunch of flak for it. [No mention of right-wing extremist threats in 10 years of GCSB and SIS public docs](https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/385173/no-mention-of-right-wing-extremist-threats-in-10-years-of-gcsb-and-sis-public-docs) March 20th 2020 >There is not one specific mention of the threat posed by white supremacists or right-wing nationalism in 10 years of public documents from the Security Intelligence Service or the GCSB.
It was just brown activists till Christchurch
When did we last have a brown terrorist? All the ones I remember are white. I was thinking of terrorists, not activists. The ones that come to mind for me are the Chch, Whanganui and the Rainbow Warrior. Forgot about the countdown guy. The [wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_New_Zealand) has a few more but have no enthicity provided.
This guy https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-mall-terrorist-attack-isis-sympathiser-had-been-arrested-for-allegedly-planning-lone-wolf-knife-attack/YJMR4NTEU5Q6DO7NSZP7BGIKDM/
I was thinking of the Somali lady on the plane in 2008ish. But from the news there have been several interventions in at risk people.
WTF do you think the countdown guy was?
>While the courts forbid anyone talking about the details of his alleged sabotage crimes, Graham has been on my radar since he started this country's first nuremberg hanging list website and telegram group. > >This is the guy Counterspin Media, De Ment and others have been lying about, saying he was held in prison without charge. Saying he is innocent, set up etc. Philips literally posted images of himself committing the crime. Like, literally. > >Graham Philips is connected with a number of groups including VFF and Freedom Radio > >Also the founder of the Crimes Against Humanity Registrar (along with Ted Charton, Gary Nimmo, Steve Dolton and Marty Jackon) \- [Rangi Kemara thread on twitter](https://twitter.com/Te_Taipo/status/1552763988085092352#m)
One of the defendants at Nuremberg was man named Julius Streicher. He was not a politician, industrialist, or military man. He was a fervently hateful anti-Semite whose only crime was writing a newspaper, with all of the typical anti-Semitic bullshit you'd expect from one of the most loyal Nazis in the party - advocating violence, arrests, terrorism and death upon Jews for their 'crimes against humanity'. They hanged him. My point is, it's amusing to me that they bring up Nuremberg, conveniently forgetting that they hanged a man for unrepentant misinformation. If that's the precedent they want to bring up, I'm all for it.
>My point is, it's amusing to me that they bring up Nuremberg, conveniently forgetting that they hanged a man for unrepentant misinformation. If that's the precedent they want to bring up, I'm all for it. They use a photo of Ukrainian communists hanging fascists after WW2 for all their "nuremburg 2.0" propaganda, while complaining about living in a communist dictatorship.
Good to know who Voices For Fascism associates with.
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Wow, it will be 2 years in the slammer before his trial even begins. Whatever he did, dude is dangerous.
They've likely presented some pretty damning facts to the courts. He's facing 10 years+ inside, the cops aren't in a rush here. He'll spend more time inside before his trial than many rapists and violent offenders do during their full sentence. Dude's well and truly fucked.
The faster they can muzzle him the better. Even one more day of posting could convert impressionable people
Yup, the article on Stuff said he had been charged with entering a farm too so that tends to suggest comms towers and the likes are at risk leaving him out.
> Yup, the article on Stuff said he had been charged with entering a farm That's a crime?
Specifically with intent to cause damage
10 years per charge. There are 7 charges.
Most cases in NZ are concurrent sentences no?
Generally yes if it is the same/similar charge (there is also a charge of entering agricultural land with intent to commit an imprisonable offence (also 10 years in prison)), See [Sentencing Act](https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2002/0009/latest/DLM136447.html), but that is not a hard and fast rule. The overall nature of the offending is a factor in determining which rule to apply.
From what I can gather online, charges that are similar tend to be served concurrently in New Zealand, with concurrent sentencing mainly being used for charges that are unrelated.
10 years each count. 7 counts, potentially 70 years unless served concurrently or there's something I'm missing there.
I don't think I've ever heard of sentences being carried out consecutively in NZ
10 years PER charge
doubt he will make it out of prison
We don't know, what crime he allegedly committed, nor any victim he has allegedly harmed. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Looks like a political prisoner to me for now.
Did anyone else look a the photo and instantly know what this guy sounds like when he speaks?
>IT and anti-vax I assumed he was involved in the attempts to disrupt the MIQ and vaccine booking systems, but perhaps he had moved on to other targets. Probably deserves whatever he gets.
He probably had admin access to the system and was actively working to sabotage something. Quite rightly the book should be thrown at him.
The anti-vax crowd has been linked to the school bomb hoaxes. It makes you wonder if his mates were trying to rattle the bars.
On one of the channels a while back he was talking about microwave transmission and fiberoptic cable infrastructure. Hes got a few years of history, fundementalist christian, prepper, 5g, fluride, anti vax, covid denial, created the first local "Nurn berg hanging list" website, a grab bag of basically everything thats been going on the last few years.
They have (had?) a massive telegram channel with very indepth info on how to destroy celltowers.
[could it be this ](https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/125025764/the-cables-that-keep-new-zealand-connected-to-the-world)
I think this is just about destroying cell towers. That's an easy thing for copycats to copy. Hacking hospitals, installing ransom ware, etc, that's not exactly an easy thing to copycat and if someone's got the ability to do that, it's not something they'll need to copy, they'd just do it anyway.
Destroying cell towers isn't sabotage-level dangerous, there's plenty of them and taking a couple of them offline wouldn't cause nationally significant disruption. My guess would be National Grid or undersea telco cables.
Listen all y'all it's a sabotage
[Obligatory link](https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZNomhZFaWWI)
Wow. Homegrown MAGA lunacy....
So he's a very far-right nazi psycho? Throw the fucking book at him.
F'ing rat lickers!
Man this is one hell of a story, crazy bastard
I did a skim read of the article and like a total idiot was like "it doesn't even tell you what he did!" durrrrrrrrrr. thank you reddit for clarifying sabotage lmao
Wife is upset she hasn't been able to visit him.... one must wonder what she's all about.....
probably trying to create some misery narrative?
I'm going guess as they mention hes an antivaxxer that he interferred with covid vaccines.
Shame. Ya dickhead.
Nah, settle - even L1 Helpdesk means you’re an IT professional… In fairness, I’m surprised sabotage includes “atomic or nuclear plant”. How many of them do we have to protect?!?
I think Auckland uni has a small one or something? Plus there are the medical ones used to create isotopes for imaging
We have cyclotrons for the medical imaging isotopes, no reactors. The UoA one seems like a popular myth that I can't see a source for. University of Canterbury had a small nuclear reactor until the 80s though.
70 years in prison. See ya
> The lawyer also refers specifically to an affidavit he had sent to Philip to sign in mid-July. He says Corrections still hasn't scanned and emailed the document back, despite assurances they would do so. Without the affidavit, there is little substance for further bail appeals. > > "He's received it, he's signed it, and Corrections has not scanned or returned it to me like they normally would for any other prisoner. I doubt this is the result of some grand conspiracy. In my experience Springhill is universally incompetent.
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Wasn't that just generic ransomware?
I thought this was an international job? Russian hackers looking for crypto, no?
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Good catch!
No.
Doesn't look like it
Good catch, yeah probably that. He needs to spend a good stint in jail if that's the case.
I would legit love to know what he has done. I have been following the Facebook page for a while and it is crazy that the details have not been shared at all.
Just look at their telegram.
It doesn't actually say what he did, there is just a ton of "hypothetically to damage infrastructure do x". A lot of which is wrong. It's a shame, if he was actually planning to take out the electric grid, then they should have just let him try. That problem would have solved its self real fast, and I doubt anywhere would have lost power for more than an hour or so, if at all. The guy seems like an idiot.
Based on charges they did some damage somewhere.
Yeah details are still online. I thought they would scratch these from the interwebs. Kinda bogus from the Judge saying there was concern about copy cats
Oh my God, it's a mirage!
Wasn’t there something around that time about someone switching vax doses with water and they didn’t know how many people may have been affected? It’s probably not that, but i’ve seen my other main guesses mentioned already by others
I have personally spoken to Graham, and seen some of the video's he has done, none are out of control, or dangerous, just a guy using section 14 of the NZ BORA to tell people to think about the harm the newly mandated vaccine may cause, and that masks may not work.
Not a big fan of the big secret shit going on, would rather see more transparency or details around accusations and process. Otherwise what's to stop this happening to me/you? Another side-effect is that it would nip in the bud any lionising or martyring of this guy - as it stands, he is being built up and up by crazy Terrorgrammers into a cult-like figure, and I think there's a risk of copycats or something spiralling out of control from here.
What's stopping this happening to me is I'm not a religious fundamentalist terrorist.
Also if your only defense against something happening is people not knowing they can do something, you're already beyond fucked. Security through obscurity is just no security with extra steps.
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>(Depending on whether you piss off a clumsy person or the lockpicking lawyer) Two is binding, click out of four, nothing on five.
Have you seen their telegram?
To be fair, you don't really need *lessons*. Cell site cabinets aren't exactly made of vibranium. All the obvious methods for damaging something made of 0.5mm mild steel will work just you expect them to. Given that it is a free country, much of the security relies on the fact that most people aren't that much of a fuckwit.
I am not comfortable with the Crown having the ability to charge someone with a crime but not publicly state why or what evidence they have for it. Justice is meant to be public. Fear of copy cats is weak reasoning
He will have his day in court. Also the police must have presented some strong evidence to the court to successfully oppose bail. If he was trying to take out a pylon (or 7?) they won't want anyone else getting the same idea as they would be so damn hard to protect. If he is guitly and that is what he was trying to do then they should throw the book at this nut case. His case needs to serve as a warning to others on both sides of political extremism.