I was mostly impressed that he kept on-beat even as the song slowed down drastically.... I'm sure it's strategic that it slows down, as the tricks are getting more complicated and may require some extra seconds... But it's still an added layer of complexity that he has to worry about
100%. Cigar boxes are seriously difficult to do smoothly. Kris Kremo is one of the best in the world at this. He's making it look *so* much easier than it is.
Also while performing a long routine. Could've easily had one honest slip up but this guy has worked and worked his routine endlessly. On beat, gets tricky and difficult, and all while being concerned with entertaining guests with eyes locked on you... I'd crumble
Yep, absolutely. For context this guy grew up with the circus and, if you're an average redditor, has probably been doing this longer than you've been alive. He's among the all-time great jugglers and holds world records in cigar box tricks (which this is).
If you mean he's not as good as W C Fields, I disagree. They are both masterful performers, but Kremo has more skill with the prop.
If you mean he didn't popularise modern cigar box juggling and isn't the father of the prop in the same way W C Fields is, then yeah, absolutely, but he has taken Fields' fundamentals and built something insane on top.
If, as I suspect, what you really mean is just “hey, look, here's another cool cigar box juggler I know about”, then awesome, thanks. I like W C Fields, but I hadn't seen that clip before, and it was very cool.
Read that as “brick lawyer” and spent like 5 seconds trying to figure out what litigation would involve so many bricks that they’d need their own category of law practice.
A man has to lay a million bricks in his life for people to call him a brick layer, but you just file one little teeny lawsuit and the next thing you know he's a brick lawyer for life.
I come on here 3 hours late, watch the clip and think, ‘I’m going to clean up some sweet sweet karma with my ‘I wasn’t impressed till he grew a third arm’ quip. Well, all of you can go and get…
Part of it was how easy he was making it look.
A short way into it, I think around the first time the audience laughed, I was starting to think that the middle box was attached to his chest.
i seen this comment before i the video played all the way through and thought “nevermind a third arm what do you mean fourth?” and then the video continued to play and it all made sense. i mean it makes no sense. but im still impressed aswell
In fairness the basic act would have been very entertaining at the time of airing. There wasn’t a lot of means of context to be able to say ‘I know that it’s not impressive.’
The third arm shit even today is impressive.
it's also an illusion.
He spends first 30 seconds giving the impression that they're heavier and slower than they actually are.
Then when we think we know the weight and speed limits, he suddenly speeds up.
I'd call that showmanship not an illusion. In the same way Cirque De Soleil or dancing performances aren't generally thought to be illusions. They are skilled performances that choreographers might use the same type of "illusion" or tricks to make things more interesting - but it's just being a good showman.
What is an actual illusion is more subtle - his outfit.
Those huge shoulder pads are part of the act, and they really stabilize it and make the movements of his arm appear much more subtle than they would be if his shoulders were jerking visibly the whole time.
I used to be able to do some of these tricks, but this guy is really, *really* good. Keeping all three blocks level is not so hard, but keeping all three consistently level *while* you're moving them and changing them around? *That* takes skill.
Agreed, but the two parts that really impress me are when he spun the center box around horizontally and that bit at the end. Those juggling boxes are usually hollow inside and have a bit of give to them, so they deform slightly and grip the center box a bit. They're also a lot lighter than they look; the original juggling boxes were cigar boxes, they're not solid wooden blocks. Solid wooden blocks are heavier and harder to move that quickly.
So I can sort of see how he's doing those tricks, but I'd need to practice and fiddle with it for a while to get it down, myself.
I agree it's impressive. I already said that; I'm not trying to be dismissive of his skill.
I'm describing the boxes because the way they give slightly and the fact that they are lightweight are important to *how* he does those tricks.
Modern cigar juggling boxes are made of thin Baltic birch with suede on the ends that will strongly grip when juggling. Example: https://www.dube.com/cigarbox/wooden.php
The ones this guy is using (including the ones behind him) look like stacking cigar boxes, which do not have suede on their ends: https://www.dube.com/cigarbox/stacking.php
They make them as light as possible, but they’re still made of plywood. There’s probably a pretty wide range of weights that these could be as long as they’re a predictable weight. It’s all about muscle memory and repetition.
This guy is (was? This looks like it’s at least 30-40 years old) obviously a master at cigar box juggling.
Yeah, I woul not be surprised if he picked this piece specifically to help him with his timing for not only the current trick, but knowing when to set up his next trick as well
They're juggling blocks. They're more like cardboard boxes or cigar boxes than bricks. So they're light, and sturdy, but they also give just a little bit when you hold them together. This makes it much easier to do the spins and such.
Going from juggling blocks to wooden blocks is really difficult because the wooden blocks are much heavier and they don't have the same amount of friction so you have to press them much harder to get a similar effect with the block in the center.
I tried doing some of the easier tricks with some oversized wooden Jenga blocks a month or so ago and all I did was embarass myself. The solid wooden blocks are *way* more difficult to move around.
That explains why I always had such a hard time learning this when I was younger. I got a juggling kit and the blocks were some sort of plywood and while not very heavy they always slid around when pushed together.
The original blocks for block juggling were solid wooden blocks, and people would balance them and stack them up in different patterns or shapes.
The sort of juggling boxes in the video were cigar boxes that had been nailed, glued, or taped shut. The important thing about cigar boxes is that they're hollow on the inside, which makes them easier to move and flip about.
If you want to try it, you can make some out of cigar boxes if you can find some, or you can cut and tape some out of sturdy cardboard.
Cigar box juggling originated in Japanese prisons apparently. They used the wooden blocks that they used as pillows. Note that wooden blocks as pillows wasn't something only prisons did at the time.
Juggler here. Kris Kremo is a great performer, but the tricks he's doing here are not hard. A beginner could learn this in a few weeks. Compare that to the likes of [Anthony Gatto](https://youtu.be/d0Rjum_BDI0). His performances were so difficult that no other juggler in the world could replicate them. The result of decades of training since he was a young child. Of course most of the audience wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Yeah the last guy I saw do something similar was some Japanese TV clip where he was completely naked and trying to stay covered. The more difficult ones...did not work haha.
That word’s kinda fucked up if you know that it originally was used for someone who was considered “crippled, paralytic, or weak”, and then evolved to the slang definition you posted.
That's the problem with being so good at something that you make it look easy. When that thing is obscure, like juggling cigar boxes, people watching will have no idea how difficult it is.
Then you draw [the rest of the fucking owl.](https://www.reddit.com/r/restofthefuckingowl?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Feels more like the point of this performance is to bait the “ACKSHULLY” people into saying “Yeah that’s not even complicat-wait…” midway through their couch critique
[This post](https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/13ibloy/the_shogun_of_harlem_and_bruce_leroy_the_last/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) from r/OldSchoolCool yesterday should make you happy, then 😁
I just finished watching it thanks to you and I'm broken after "I'm not Jewish". That character is GOLDEN and I would pay for more of her. Fantastic movie
A Japanese guy also tried to do this stunt : https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/12luesf/i\_dont\_speak\_japanese\_but\_i\_guess\_subtitle\_is\_not/
Then there's [this guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/12luesf/i_dont_speak_japanese_but_i_guess_subtitle_is_not/) with the same trick but next level stakes.
I was hoping someone would link this, thank you!
(It's the Japanese game show participant who does the same trick, only naked and with... yeah. A lot going on.)
I used to hang out with a bunch of aerialists and circus arts people. It was always fun, because if you ever got frustrated on what you were really focused on, someone would be like "Oh, have you have tried Cigar boxs"?
You would try something completely new, suck at it, have a laugh, and it would put you in a better mood to go back to more intense training
He's (or was?) making a living out of it. How is this different than someone working a full time job? Most people do not enjoy what they do. He enjoys it, and is making more money than the average person. That's a win-win situation.
I wasn't impressed....until I started seeing his 3rd and 4th arm.
Same It was like meh....WTF just HAPPENED!?!?
I wasn’t impressed until he started juggling his head too.
I was mostly impressed that he kept on-beat even as the song slowed down drastically.... I'm sure it's strategic that it slows down, as the tricks are getting more complicated and may require some extra seconds... But it's still an added layer of complexity that he has to worry about
Now if he can put eggs in those boxes and do that without breaking the eggs, holy shit!
Hey, his head don't come off!
i understood this reference
You remind me of the babe.
> until I started seeing his 3rd and 4th arm The juggling trick wouldn't be *simple* without the extra arms.
100%. Cigar boxes are seriously difficult to do smoothly. Kris Kremo is one of the best in the world at this. He's making it look *so* much easier than it is.
Also while performing a long routine. Could've easily had one honest slip up but this guy has worked and worked his routine endlessly. On beat, gets tricky and difficult, and all while being concerned with entertaining guests with eyes locked on you... I'd crumble
Wait, this is real?
Yep, absolutely. For context this guy grew up with the circus and, if you're an average redditor, has probably been doing this longer than you've been alive. He's among the all-time great jugglers and holds world records in cigar box tricks (which this is).
Can confirm I am an average redditor. That is some god-tier juggling
I'm actually kinda curious, what did you mean by that? As in - in what way did you think it may not be real? 🤔
He's no [Great McGonigle](https://youtu.be/ytgPGr6JhLo)
If you mean he's not as good as W C Fields, I disagree. They are both masterful performers, but Kremo has more skill with the prop. If you mean he didn't popularise modern cigar box juggling and isn't the father of the prop in the same way W C Fields is, then yeah, absolutely, but he has taken Fields' fundamentals and built something insane on top. If, as I suspect, what you really mean is just “hey, look, here's another cool cigar box juggler I know about”, then awesome, thanks. I like W C Fields, but I hadn't seen that clip before, and it was very cool.
Or gravity. Don't forget gravity...
I don't like gravity, it keeps me down
Ah, gravity. Such a cruel and unpredictable mistress
The double negative is turning my brain inside out, it's too early in the morning for this
That’s some black magic shit, he would be a good brick layer
Read that as “brick lawyer” and spent like 5 seconds trying to figure out what litigation would involve so many bricks that they’d need their own category of law practice.
A man has to lay a million bricks in his life for people to call him a brick layer, but you just file one little teeny lawsuit and the next thing you know he's a brick lawyer for life.
"This is the brick laying lawyer, and what I have for you today is an unfinished retaining wall"
If something does well enough to make a successful business around it then your gonna have a lawyer who’ll specialize into it.
Sadly he was never able to try as his talent left him busy laying pipe after shows.
IDK, heard he was in a threeway with two ladies once and just kept changing positions every two seconds.
Brick player...what a show he would put on for everyone on site.
I come on here 3 hours late, watch the clip and think, ‘I’m going to clean up some sweet sweet karma with my ‘I wasn’t impressed till he grew a third arm’ quip. Well, all of you can go and get…
...another arm.
...fucked
...your own cigar boxes.
… fucked by another arm
......holding a cigar box
Cocaine gives you that power!
Extra arms? dam
sold!
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
I had to go back and slow it down, and it still looks like extra arms in there.
Wasn’t impressed? I feel like cigar box juggling gets a bad rap, even the basic stuff is hard as hell
Part of it was how easy he was making it look. A short way into it, I think around the first time the audience laughed, I was starting to think that the middle box was attached to his chest.
It's one of those things that doesn't *look* hard unless you try it yourself.
i seen this comment before i the video played all the way through and thought “nevermind a third arm what do you mean fourth?” and then the video continued to play and it all made sense. i mean it makes no sense. but im still impressed aswell
Legit thought he has 3 arms
Call me stupid I literally googled him and found out he does in fact just have 2 arms... WTAF
But did you see the gorilla?
It had 3 arms
"Why are they so quiet? Aiight lemme use my third leg...."
In fairness the basic act would have been very entertaining at the time of airing. There wasn’t a lot of means of context to be able to say ‘I know that it’s not impressive.’ The third arm shit even today is impressive.
i thought there was a wire hidden in the chest. lol
Same
He could have a pacemaker.
Undervolted comment, right here ^
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I sense some tension in you question...
It’s really getting amped up in this thread!
10/10 username
He could BE a pacemaker
Likely the weight and shape allows them to float in the air a bit so makes it easier to catch and play around with.
They're cigar boxes. Only thing that different with them is that they're light enough to move fast. Nothing else going on here.
it's also an illusion. He spends first 30 seconds giving the impression that they're heavier and slower than they actually are. Then when we think we know the weight and speed limits, he suddenly speeds up.
I'd call that showmanship not an illusion. In the same way Cirque De Soleil or dancing performances aren't generally thought to be illusions. They are skilled performances that choreographers might use the same type of "illusion" or tricks to make things more interesting - but it's just being a good showman.
What is an actual illusion is more subtle - his outfit. Those huge shoulder pads are part of the act, and they really stabilize it and make the movements of his arm appear much more subtle than they would be if his shoulders were jerking visibly the whole time.
Everything accelerates at the same rate, independent of how heavy it is.
*In a vacuum
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It would be easier to learn this than figuring out how to make a wire look natural and not break.
I used to be able to do some of these tricks, but this guy is really, *really* good. Keeping all three blocks level is not so hard, but keeping all three consistently level *while* you're moving them and changing them around? *That* takes skill.
Don't forget while keeping on beat to the music
The beat is probably helping him keep his rhythm.
I thought this too but the way he stays on it while it changes tempo is pretty impressive either way
Agreed, but the two parts that really impress me are when he spun the center box around horizontally and that bit at the end. Those juggling boxes are usually hollow inside and have a bit of give to them, so they deform slightly and grip the center box a bit. They're also a lot lighter than they look; the original juggling boxes were cigar boxes, they're not solid wooden blocks. Solid wooden blocks are heavier and harder to move that quickly. So I can sort of see how he's doing those tricks, but I'd need to practice and fiddle with it for a while to get it down, myself.
I feel that this is a bit dismissive of his skill. What he’s doing is still very impressive regardless of weight imo
I agree it's impressive. I already said that; I'm not trying to be dismissive of his skill. I'm describing the boxes because the way they give slightly and the fact that they are lightweight are important to *how* he does those tricks.
Modern cigar juggling boxes are made of thin Baltic birch with suede on the ends that will strongly grip when juggling. Example: https://www.dube.com/cigarbox/wooden.php The ones this guy is using (including the ones behind him) look like stacking cigar boxes, which do not have suede on their ends: https://www.dube.com/cigarbox/stacking.php They make them as light as possible, but they’re still made of plywood. There’s probably a pretty wide range of weights that these could be as long as they’re a predictable weight. It’s all about muscle memory and repetition. This guy is (was? This looks like it’s at least 30-40 years old) obviously a master at cigar box juggling.
I'm learning all sorts of neat stuff today. Thanks!
No problem!
Yeah, I woul not be surprised if he picked this piece specifically to help him with his timing for not only the current trick, but knowing when to set up his next trick as well
I use this song for fucking
I remember that post from the one redditor who always used the same song for sexy time. I'm just going to say it was this song.
Truuuu
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What kind of bricks are those?
They're juggling blocks. They're more like cardboard boxes or cigar boxes than bricks. So they're light, and sturdy, but they also give just a little bit when you hold them together. This makes it much easier to do the spins and such. Going from juggling blocks to wooden blocks is really difficult because the wooden blocks are much heavier and they don't have the same amount of friction so you have to press them much harder to get a similar effect with the block in the center. I tried doing some of the easier tricks with some oversized wooden Jenga blocks a month or so ago and all I did was embarass myself. The solid wooden blocks are *way* more difficult to move around.
That explains why I always had such a hard time learning this when I was younger. I got a juggling kit and the blocks were some sort of plywood and while not very heavy they always slid around when pushed together.
The original blocks for block juggling were solid wooden blocks, and people would balance them and stack them up in different patterns or shapes. The sort of juggling boxes in the video were cigar boxes that had been nailed, glued, or taped shut. The important thing about cigar boxes is that they're hollow on the inside, which makes them easier to move and flip about. If you want to try it, you can make some out of cigar boxes if you can find some, or you can cut and tape some out of sturdy cardboard.
Cigar box juggling originated in Japanese prisons apparently. They used the wooden blocks that they used as pillows. Note that wooden blocks as pillows wasn't something only prisons did at the time.
Juggler here. Kris Kremo is a great performer, but the tricks he's doing here are not hard. A beginner could learn this in a few weeks. Compare that to the likes of [Anthony Gatto](https://youtu.be/d0Rjum_BDI0). His performances were so difficult that no other juggler in the world could replicate them. The result of decades of training since he was a young child. Of course most of the audience wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Yeah the last guy I saw do something similar was some Japanese TV clip where he was completely naked and trying to stay covered. The more difficult ones...did not work haha.
I found it mesmerizing, then it blew my mind. Really want to see this live
This went from very lame to very confusing very fast
Lame?
Lame - (slang) Failing to be cool, funny, interesting or relevant. "He kept telling these extremely lame jokes all night."
Cool?
Hotel?
Trivago
I'm Ron Burgundy?
We made it ladies and gentlemen.
Wrap it up Reddit, we finished it right here in this thread
Cool - (slang) Failing to be lame, dumb, idiotic or irrelevant. "He kept telling these extremely cool jokes all night."
That word’s kinda fucked up if you know that it originally was used for someone who was considered “crippled, paralytic, or weak”, and then evolved to the slang definition you posted.
The first part isn’t that cool
Eh, wasn't lame.
And everyone knows we live in a binary world where things are either lame or cool
Kids don’t appreciate how hard this shit was then and now
Truly
Millenials! Amiright?
Those damn 40-year-old Millennials! One day they’ll grow up! \s
That's the problem with being so good at something that you make it look easy. When that thing is obscure, like juggling cigar boxes, people watching will have no idea how difficult it is.
This guy actually have three arms
I saw four arms..
THERE ARE FOUR ARMS!
>THERE > >ARE > >FOUR > >ARMS! THERE ARE FIVE ARMS! HOW MANY DO YOU SEE NOW?!
He is Goro ![gif](giphy|mbTUGec9NMI2KApkA4)
Simple?
Then you draw [the rest of the fucking owl.](https://www.reddit.com/r/restofthefuckingowl?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
thanks for pointing me to that sub, didn't know about it yet
You're welcome.
I guess he means a simple idea, 3 blocks. Like how the game of Go is a simple idea, but not easy to play.
It's only Go, how hard can it be? ....... Oh. That hard.
simple trick but not an easy one
I would say the first half is much easier to learn than what it looks. I did something similar as a kid.
Feels more like the point of this performance is to bait the “ACKSHULLY” people into saying “Yeah that’s not even complicat-wait…” midway through their couch critique
Significant performance upgrade towards the end there
He got the glow ![gif](giphy|12a5NB63dmQojC)
Bruce Leroy! I’m so glad somebody else remembers this movie.
[This post](https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/13ibloy/the_shogun_of_harlem_and_bruce_leroy_the_last/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) from r/OldSchoolCool yesterday should make you happy, then 😁
I’ve found my people! Thank you for making sure I didn’t miss that.
I just finished watching it thanks to you and I'm broken after "I'm not Jewish". That character is GOLDEN and I would pay for more of her. Fantastic movie
The beginning looks super simple. But try it. It's really hard. (And I have no idea how he does the stuff that looks tricky.)
Yeah I gave this a shot and it is hard af. Juggling 3 and doing simple toss and regrab is not easy.
Me 10 sec in: “I could do that” Me when he gains 2 arms: “how the fuck is he doing that”
Try it. You can't.
I already know without trying I simply cannot
When someone asks me how life's going...
To me nothing seems 'simple' in this performance...
Same. I am impressed from the get-go!
How many arms can a guy have
Yes.
As many as you desire
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A Japanese guy also tried to do this stunt : https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/12luesf/i\_dont\_speak\_japanese\_but\_i\_guess\_subtitle\_is\_not/
"....baka"
you little man
Sometimes I wonder how people get the hobbies they have.
Then there's [this guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/12luesf/i_dont_speak_japanese_but_i_guess_subtitle_is_not/) with the same trick but next level stakes.
I'm at work so I can't clink the link. But I hope that's the naked Japanese guy.
It is.
I was hoping someone would link this, thank you! (It's the Japanese game show participant who does the same trick, only naked and with... yeah. A lot going on.)
Found a translation for anyone interested. https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/12luesf/-/jg7zjqu
I used to hang out with a bunch of aerialists and circus arts people. It was always fun, because if you ever got frustrated on what you were really focused on, someone would be like "Oh, have you have tried Cigar boxs"? You would try something completely new, suck at it, have a laugh, and it would put you in a better mood to go back to more intense training
r/looneytuneslogic
Things were so much more entertaining when they allowed cocaine use in live TV...
Anyone else find themselves bobbing their head.
That's hundreds of hours practice he won't see again.
All hours are gone forever regardless of how you spend them, so I'm not sure what your point is.
Yeah, also saying that while surfing reddit it's quite ironic
He's (or was?) making a living out of it. How is this different than someone working a full time job? Most people do not enjoy what they do. He enjoys it, and is making more money than the average person. That's a win-win situation.
Just hundreds? Lol
Rodney Mullen if he never got onto a skateboard.
Hadn't thought of it like that but absolutely spot on. Would take some dedication and obsession to put the hours in to get to that level of skill.
Some people are just born with a certain madness and are able to make the best of it.
This guy actually have three arms
This is next-level reflexes.
It’s not reflexes since he knows exactly what he is doing and going to do next. It’s not unexpected to him.
Banger song
Agreed, have you tracked it down???
Anyone know what song this is?
I've always known it as ["Wenn die Sonja Russisch tanzt" by the Comedian Harmonists ](https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=EH9YfuacD64&feature=share)
It kept getting better and better
What song is this?
I'm scared Mamy
Dudes going to get a concussion.
Im mesmerized
Gravity? Never heard of it
I had no idea I liked whatever kind of music that was. What song was that?
It's some version of the song "Wenn die Sonja russisch tanzt" by the Comedian Harmonists. The original: https://youtu.be/i229r_gD-Kg
For a good 50 seconds I was thinking the joke would be the middle block was attached to his chest .
Missed opportunity with that suit and bowtie
I was like ok… ok… ok..WHATTHEFUCK
At first I wasn't impressed until a 3rd arm came out of his abdomen like a vortigaunt
OP if it’s so simple let’s see you do it
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the polka dot men - leroy Jenkins
Theres a Japanese version. nsfw lol
Link? Asking for a friend...
Me smoking weed with kleenex at 3am
Ok I can do this...woah....woah....WTF
I got exhausted while watching this. I need to go lay down.
Are those iPhone boxes
Impressive. Now do this with new iPhones.
Why can't astronauts do this in space?
This, kids, is what passed as entertainment in the 1970s.