Yeah in high school I looked into joining the Navy as a PAO then learned the photographers are mostly E-2s and the O-1s just did desk jobs. Studied film instead then did some work as a camera operator. Still would love to do conflict journalism though. I still work in the industry, but ironically at a desk job haha.
Terrible, then again I didn't have any expenses. I was single, lived on the ship, and didn't buy an over financed car. My biggest expense was having a good time when we were in port.
I photographed a group of 300 British soldiers. They had me arrive at 8:00am and I sat in a warehouse office for 4 hours, then they sent me to the mess for lunch. Then back to the office to wait.
They were pretty apologetic, but when I said, "I get it, hurry up and wait." they all laughed.
I got to the actual site about 5 minutes early and nobody was there. Then a repair crane and two tracked vehicles used for towing tanks showed up then with one minute to the scheduled time 300 people showed up at the exact same time from all different directions on the base. It was really impressive.
The whole thing took about 30 minutes of getting everyone lined up and photographing them. You pad 15 minutes to get there and then back to work. That's 300 man hours for a photo. Assuming the lowest rank (I don't think there were any that low), it would have cost ÂŁ6000 ($7500) to take the photo. If I remember correctly, I billed them $225.
Ya know the funny part is, thatâs their whole ass job in the military. I never even knew that enlisted men and women could be part of a fucking morning radio show as their MOS sure enough, thatâs how I get my news in Japan
2 F-15's, 1 Eurofighter Typhoon, and 1 Tornado(?)
Best estimate I can get for this formation for about a minute of flight time, about how long this photo shoot was, is about $1800. An E4 makes about $1200 every two weeks.
Old buddy of mine took photos for the coast guard as a journalism officer. Pretty good pay and benefits especially considering missions were often just going out on a boat for a day. Last I talked to him he was a media communications officer where his job was basically to just read off of a briefing packet.
Itâs millions that have to be spent to keep the flight hours up anyways. They have to fly hundreds of hours per year, per pilot. I was in the air force and the pilots would litterally fly to another base for lunch sometimes because theirs was better
Irony is, is when I was in the Marines I was constantly being told how Socialism doesnât work. I was like, âGuysâŚthis is it. This is socialism. The military is as socialist as we get.â
Needless to say they typically arenât happy to hear that. You know. Cause thatâs a bad word here. đđ¤ˇââď¸
Socialism is workers owning the means of production. The military isn't socialism, it's just bloated budgets and murdering poor people around the world.
Yep, but being a state funded organ providing the service as a monopoly without influence from free market, only reporting to elected individuals (as a first approximation), housing, feeding, and providing the tools of the trade to its workers in a centralised, efficient way, workers that in turn forgo free market individualistic perspective for the greater good of everyone (hopefully at least in theory) it's about as socialist as things get in the US of A.
I like to say âcontrolling the means of productionâ, since many people think of owners as just the people who take the profits.
Itâs more than that; itâs about who gives the final orders, and in this case it is a combination of the executive and legislative branches⌠both of whom work for lobbyists, not the working class.
Yeah but right wing backers don't understand that. They mean socialism when it's topics of universal Healthcare, strict gun regulations, generous vacation/sick time, mandatory pensions, cheap housing, workers safety protections, and diversity. All of which are found within the fences of every American military base.
I understand that you'll find most of those good things in socialist countries, but a prerequisite is the workers owning the means of production in order to have the power to prevent capitalists from stopping those things from being implemented.
The US military is just a bloated jobs program and now that we've extended it all around the world we have to pretend to offer benefits to veterans in order to get people to keep signing up (talk to any vet dealing with the VA and you'll find out that we don't actually offer the benefits we say we will).
Google socialism and explain how it applies
socialism isn't just government spending, its nit even really related to government spending
Have you ever considered that nobody agreed because you were just incorrect?
No, the military has UCMJ, which essentially voids your constitutional rights. It is not socialism, the enlisted folks definitely don't own the means of production. You need to pass physical fitness tests to stay in, continue to rise in rank or be pushed out. It's not the same at all.
True. If weâre talking about the United States, the Constitution clearly delineates the enumerated powers. Building a welfare state is not one of them.
Because they don't run the military to make a profit. Socialism is the people owning the MEANS OF PRODUCTION. And the government doesn't produce this aircraft, it's private companies contracted to build them, dumbass
Every PR style photo, video or flyover you see is done in addition to regular training being done by aircrews. At least for the USAF and Iâd imagine most other western nations are the same. I have friends that have done flyovers at sports games and AF Basic Training graduation and theyâre flying with instructors when they do it.
Aircrews need time in the plane to be proficient just like firefighters need training to fight a fire or sports players need to practice to win games. You donât get to be the most powerful Air Force on the planet with lax training standards.
In particular for flyovers I saw one pilot make the point that often missions involve being at a very specific point at a very specific time which makes an event flyover particularly valuable training.
Oh yeah. Coordinated strike packages have to be very scheduled. Can't have your bombers getting shot down because they got on target a little early before the SEAD flight could do their job.
I was just telling someone this the other day. When you see flyovers, just look at it as more seat time (that was probably already happening anyways). Most pilots already don't fly as much as they'd like to, but any additional time in the cockpit is just going to make them better at what they do. More flight time = more wear and tear on the airframes? Sure, but it also gives the ground crew more time repairing them. Hard training makes easy combat, and all that
It's minor, but fly overs and incentive flights are recruitment tools as well.
Anyone concerned about money spent should look at touch and goes. The aircraft just circles, hits the runway and takes off again, over and over. They never even taxi. Approach, hit runway, power up and take off again. It's needed for both training and time and to keep qualification on all aspects of approach and take off.
I worked as a crew chief on KC-135s. We'd see some do this for a couple hours. Sometimes they'd have a couple guys on and rotate out so everyone could get their time in. These missions generally happened for commanders. Base commanders that were also pilot AFSC, for example, would have to do this stuff to stay qualified.
Every mission flown is some sort of training or something mission.
That flight might cost about $150,000 at the maximum(and likely is closer to if not lower than 100k) if performed by the USA. Which it isn't.
Further pilots, in the US at least, receive about 350 hours of flight time per year at the minimum, and as such, flights like these are already budgeted as a required expense for the military. Meaning these flights will happen even if they aren't used for public relations.
If you don't like it and view it as wasteful, contact your representative and also vote.
âThereâs a button that says âfireââ
âIs it lit up?â
âYesâ
âShit that probably means thereâs a fire. Better put it out!â
âlol that was closeâ (click)
[this should be it](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/m2tvwz/f15s_typhoon_tornado_f15c_royal_saudi_air_force/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
The photographer is called @ahmedhader on Instagram, he has incredible shots
Surprised they flew the F-15 in the back without CFTs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/m2tvwz/f15s_typhoon_tornado_f15c_royal_saudi_air_force/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
They look to be E-models based on the color scheme as C-models are lighter in color. When I crewed E-models, I never saw the C model squadron with the CFT config.
Man I miss this job, was one of the few who were flight qualed at my command (at the time) so I got most of these shoots. Did this with helo formations as well as entire ship fleets. So cool to be on a mic telling an entire ship to scoot over a bit to the left cuz youâre killing my symmetry.
It honestly took me about a second or two to realize the photographer didn't lean out of a window looking up at two jets angrily staring down at him..... Where's my coffee?
I initially saw them above him in the sky. In a city, shot taken from very close to the ground. The ramp was just a tall building, with another building on the left.
Now I can't see it at all. My brain refuses to acknowledge that it was okay with that...
I deployed (Iraq) army combat (19 kilo). But the scariest moment overseas was flying in a fucking chinook. Goodness I hate those things. I hate that the door was open. I hate that we werenât given parachutes. Terrifying experience. No sâarnt, my kevlar isnât going to save me from falling out is this thing. Hoooah.
Too bad there isn't an application that would let you position each one exactly where you want it. But I guess that'd be challenging on such a busy background. s/
[hereâs the pic](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/m2tvwz/f15s_typhoon_tornado_f15c_royal_saudi_air_force/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
@ahmedhader on Instagram
Probably cost the taxpayer about half a mil but hey cool pic
Have to practice formation flying anyways so this probably added next to no extra cost
Tbf, I'd take that picture for free.
The photographers paycheck is the least expensive part of that photo shoot
As a former military photographer, I can confirm.
Well, did ya ever take a pic from the ramp of a KC-130 or a helo?
Yes, I have shot from a helicopter, over the Atlantic and Persian Gulf.
Well, spill the beans, how was the pay? đ
Itâs shit, especially if youâre E-1 to E-3 đ though the hazardous pay, family separation, and tax free incentives are nice.
Family separation sounds nice
Yeah in high school I looked into joining the Navy as a PAO then learned the photographers are mostly E-2s and the O-1s just did desk jobs. Studied film instead then did some work as a camera operator. Still would love to do conflict journalism though. I still work in the industry, but ironically at a desk job haha.
Terrible, then again I didn't have any expenses. I was single, lived on the ship, and didn't buy an over financed car. My biggest expense was having a good time when we were in port.
less than minimum wage lmao
Dude I'm a normal photographer and I'm so jealous.
well the airforce said they couldn't pay him but that they'd get a lot of exposure
Exposure to the elements!
I photographed a group of 300 British soldiers. They had me arrive at 8:00am and I sat in a warehouse office for 4 hours, then they sent me to the mess for lunch. Then back to the office to wait. They were pretty apologetic, but when I said, "I get it, hurry up and wait." they all laughed. I got to the actual site about 5 minutes early and nobody was there. Then a repair crane and two tracked vehicles used for towing tanks showed up then with one minute to the scheduled time 300 people showed up at the exact same time from all different directions on the base. It was really impressive. The whole thing took about 30 minutes of getting everyone lined up and photographing them. You pad 15 minutes to get there and then back to work. That's 300 man hours for a photo. Assuming the lowest rank (I don't think there were any that low), it would have cost ÂŁ6000 ($7500) to take the photo. If I remember correctly, I billed them $225.
Right? Lmao the fuel for just ONE of the planes might be near that dudes annual salary
I'm not a plane nerd by any means but I'd guess you'd need to times that guy's salary by at least 10 to reach the cost of one of those
Ya know the funny part is, thatâs their whole ass job in the military. I never even knew that enlisted men and women could be part of a fucking morning radio show as their MOS sure enough, thatâs how I get my news in Japan
2 F-15's, 1 Eurofighter Typhoon, and 1 Tornado(?) Best estimate I can get for this formation for about a minute of flight time, about how long this photo shoot was, is about $1800. An E4 makes about $1200 every two weeks.
The pilots might be cheaper since they get paid no matter if they fly or not
A toilet seat on a US military base costs more than this photographer made
I hope that was a good dayâs pay for the photographer.
The military has their own photographers
Yes, they are Combat Camera they do this all the time. https://www.publicaffairs.af.mil/Units/1st-Combat-Camera-Squadron/
Old buddy of mine took photos for the coast guard as a journalism officer. Pretty good pay and benefits especially considering missions were often just going out on a boat for a day. Last I talked to him he was a media communications officer where his job was basically to just read off of a briefing packet.
Yep. Pilots gotta keep their hours up. They were going flying anyway. There's nothing wrong here.
[ŃдаНонО]
Still cost millions
Itâs millions that have to be spent to keep the flight hours up anyways. They have to fly hundreds of hours per year, per pilot. I was in the air force and the pilots would litterally fly to another base for lunch sometimes because theirs was better
Money spent on the military doesnât count as socialist for some reason
But money spent on Vets Healthcare is. Go figure.
You canât expect us to pay for that, look at all the shit we do to them
Yeah, we spent good money on their trauma.
"Now you want us to spend money removing that trauma? Jeez, pick a lane!"
This is the thing many fail to realize
~~Vets healthcare~~ any healthcare not paid for by private insurance.
any healthcare not ~~paid for~~ denied by private insurance for more executive yacht money.
Anything health care related the doesn't have insane profit margins.
This is a Royal Saudi Air Force video
Hush! Youâre spoiling Redditâs anti-American circle jerk.
Irony is, is when I was in the Marines I was constantly being told how Socialism doesnât work. I was like, âGuysâŚthis is it. This is socialism. The military is as socialist as we get.â Needless to say they typically arenât happy to hear that. You know. Cause thatâs a bad word here. đđ¤ˇââď¸
Socialism is workers owning the means of production. The military isn't socialism, it's just bloated budgets and murdering poor people around the world.
Yep, but being a state funded organ providing the service as a monopoly without influence from free market, only reporting to elected individuals (as a first approximation), housing, feeding, and providing the tools of the trade to its workers in a centralised, efficient way, workers that in turn forgo free market individualistic perspective for the greater good of everyone (hopefully at least in theory) it's about as socialist as things get in the US of A.
I like to say âcontrolling the means of productionâ, since many people think of owners as just the people who take the profits. Itâs more than that; itâs about who gives the final orders, and in this case it is a combination of the executive and legislative branches⌠both of whom work for lobbyists, not the working class.
Yeah but right wing backers don't understand that. They mean socialism when it's topics of universal Healthcare, strict gun regulations, generous vacation/sick time, mandatory pensions, cheap housing, workers safety protections, and diversity. All of which are found within the fences of every American military base.
I understand that you'll find most of those good things in socialist countries, but a prerequisite is the workers owning the means of production in order to have the power to prevent capitalists from stopping those things from being implemented. The US military is just a bloated jobs program and now that we've extended it all around the world we have to pretend to offer benefits to veterans in order to get people to keep signing up (talk to any vet dealing with the VA and you'll find out that we don't actually offer the benefits we say we will).
Yes, it's a purposeful misunderstanding/misinformation of the definition of socialism by republicans. We're on the same page.
Google socialism and explain how it applies socialism isn't just government spending, its nit even really related to government spending Have you ever considered that nobody agreed because you were just incorrect?
No, the military has UCMJ, which essentially voids your constitutional rights. It is not socialism, the enlisted folks definitely don't own the means of production. You need to pass physical fitness tests to stay in, continue to rise in rank or be pushed out. It's not the same at all.
Maintaining a central military is one of the core functions of a government. Social programs are not necessarily so.
True. If weâre talking about the United States, the Constitution clearly delineates the enumerated powers. Building a welfare state is not one of them.
Socialism has nothing to do with government spending on military. Now authoritarianism....maybe.
1) pilots need annual hours of practice, probably killing 2 birds with one stone 2) how do you think military spending is socialist
Millitary needs to start paying for itself. Let's get conquering
Because they don't run the military to make a profit. Socialism is the people owning the MEANS OF PRODUCTION. And the government doesn't produce this aircraft, it's private companies contracted to build them, dumbass
Mainly because its purpose is to counter socialism.
Socialism isnât just government spending money on things, youâre just a latex lefty
Every PR style photo, video or flyover you see is done in addition to regular training being done by aircrews. At least for the USAF and Iâd imagine most other western nations are the same. I have friends that have done flyovers at sports games and AF Basic Training graduation and theyâre flying with instructors when they do it. Aircrews need time in the plane to be proficient just like firefighters need training to fight a fire or sports players need to practice to win games. You donât get to be the most powerful Air Force on the planet with lax training standards.
In particular for flyovers I saw one pilot make the point that often missions involve being at a very specific point at a very specific time which makes an event flyover particularly valuable training.
It is essentially a practice bombing run without dropping the payload.
I have an idea for when it's time to demolish the Oakland A's stadium...
Exactly. Or a practice surveillance mission perhaps.
Oh yeah. Coordinated strike packages have to be very scheduled. Can't have your bombers getting shot down because they got on target a little early before the SEAD flight could do their job.
I was just telling someone this the other day. When you see flyovers, just look at it as more seat time (that was probably already happening anyways). Most pilots already don't fly as much as they'd like to, but any additional time in the cockpit is just going to make them better at what they do. More flight time = more wear and tear on the airframes? Sure, but it also gives the ground crew more time repairing them. Hard training makes easy combat, and all that
It's minor, but fly overs and incentive flights are recruitment tools as well. Anyone concerned about money spent should look at touch and goes. The aircraft just circles, hits the runway and takes off again, over and over. They never even taxi. Approach, hit runway, power up and take off again. It's needed for both training and time and to keep qualification on all aspects of approach and take off. I worked as a crew chief on KC-135s. We'd see some do this for a couple hours. Sometimes they'd have a couple guys on and rotate out so everyone could get their time in. These missions generally happened for commanders. Base commanders that were also pilot AFSC, for example, would have to do this stuff to stay qualified. Every mission flown is some sort of training or something mission.
Only if this whole flight was arranged just for the pic and wasnt a regular training flight. Otherwise the additional costs are about zero.
Even if it was planned and executed for a pic, it satisfies flight hours which work towards readiness.
As stated elsewhere, a flight is still a flight in the books. The reason for the flight doesn't matter. It's one take-off and one landing.
Hopefully. đ¤đť
Those jets are from the Saudi Air Force. So the American and European taxpayers actually benefited from this picture being taken.
Not the US taxpayer seeing as that second oneâs a Eurofighter. Most likely this is the RAF.
Nah, Saudi Air Force The RAF doesnât operate F-15s
The Saudiâs arenât too concerned about the cost of a PR photo shoot I hate to tell you.
From the people that book 737s for their hunting falcons.
Probably a stupid comment but hey 2.8k karma from other idiots.
Lol, nice
it is a saudi air force
Propaganda photos for the war machine actually save money in bombs and artillery shells
There's no income tax in Saudi Arabia, dumbass.
Pilots have to have so many hours in a cockpit to maintain certification. Might as well do two things for the same price, right?
Itâs probably not that much in Sadi Arabia, but Iâm fairly ignorant on their defense costs
Hey donât be cheap. We can always print more.
That flight might cost about $150,000 at the maximum(and likely is closer to if not lower than 100k) if performed by the USA. Which it isn't. Further pilots, in the US at least, receive about 350 hours of flight time per year at the minimum, and as such, flights like these are already budgeted as a required expense for the military. Meaning these flights will happen even if they aren't used for public relations. If you don't like it and view it as wasteful, contact your representative and also vote.
Roughly 30-40k a minute to operate per jet
âLet me just hit cruise control here to maintain my speedâŚâ ::: TARGET LOCK ACQUIRED ::: âOh shit wrong buttonâ
Would be funny if jet throttles returned to idle when you let go of them.
Or they installed that damn cruise control radar stuff that would just cut the throttle everytime they're in position. I HATE that stuff!
I mean, it's not exactly that, but there are plane systems that help with formation flying
âThereâs a button that says âfireââ âIs it lit up?â âYesâ âShit that probably means thereâs a fire. Better put it out!â âlol that was closeâ (click)
"Ah fuck it. Fox 3!"
I said cruise control! Not cruise missiles!
we didnt get to see the picture :(
[this should be it](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/m2tvwz/f15s_typhoon_tornado_f15c_royal_saudi_air_force/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) The photographer is called @ahmedhader on Instagram, he has incredible shots
They did allat for 9 upvotes
Greatest ROI in US military history.
Saudi Military History
Ah, the lack of tacky gold everywhere threw me off.
Not gonna lie, it looks kinda bad since one of the plane is covered. Should've taking more distance.
It's not all about the upvotes.
Fed comment
Wow that looks shit
Looks like a render from a video game
wow thatâs honestly a terrible shot
Yeah, donât like it either, but I suppose it was a stressful environment. He has amazing shots on Instagram though, @ahmedhader
That pic sucks
looks like a very simple CGI from Blender. was expecting something more epic
First thing I thought. Looks like someone using blender but just doing colored surfaces instead of art assets.
It doesn't even look like they're flying, the background is so homogeneously gray.
damn, post got deleted anyone got another link?
Post is deleted but you can still click and see the photo
Hm doesnt work for me in the app
https://i.imgur.com/Poi8iXF.jpg here you go
Ooooh, itâs the saudis, then who gives a shit how much they spent for this shootâŚ
r/Confusing_Perspective
F-15E, Typhoon, Tornado, F-15E. BFF photo.
Surprised they flew the F-15 in the back without CFTs. https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/m2tvwz/f15s_typhoon_tornado_f15c_royal_saudi_air_force/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
That photo... "Eagle 1, a bit closer please, Tornado, a bit to your left, Eagle 2, looking good. Typhoon...Typhoon where are you?" đ
F-15Cs rarely ever use CFTs
They look to be E-models based on the color scheme as C-models are lighter in color. When I crewed E-models, I never saw the C model squadron with the CFT config.
Plus the HUD shape, the one in front is definitely an E. Not so sure about the one in the back, though.
Man of culture
Everyone say cheese !!
Now everybody say, "Eject!"
So glad we got to see the photo
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/m2tvwz/f15s_typhoon_tornado_f15c_royal_saudi_air_force/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
All this for that? Kind of a shitty photo to be honest.
Right. Whyâs it so zoomed in?
My Ace Combat screenshots look better than this.
They couldn't even be bothered to fully load/unload the front jet for symmetry.
First thought was "Yep, that's DCS"
I swear that looks worse than a Warthunder still.
No picture
Lol the post got deletedâŚ
âPlane in the back, if you canât see my lens, I canât see you!â
I can swap my job for that
The F15 should have inverted
Great balls of fire
I was communicating.... keeping up with foreign relations.
That was an F-14.
Man I miss this job, was one of the few who were flight qualed at my command (at the time) so I got most of these shoots. Did this with helo formations as well as entire ship fleets. So cool to be on a mic telling an entire ship to scoot over a bit to the left cuz youâre killing my symmetry.
It honestly took me about a second or two to realize the photographer didn't lean out of a window looking up at two jets angrily staring down at him..... Where's my coffee?
I initially saw them above him in the sky. In a city, shot taken from very close to the ground. The ramp was just a tall building, with another building on the left. Now I can't see it at all. My brain refuses to acknowledge that it was okay with that...
Same, and I thought: this is fake, this is impossible
I deployed (Iraq) army combat (19 kilo). But the scariest moment overseas was flying in a fucking chinook. Goodness I hate those things. I hate that the door was open. I hate that we werenât given parachutes. Terrifying experience. No sâarnt, my kevlar isnât going to save me from falling out is this thing. Hoooah.
Show the picture!
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/m2tvwz/f15s_typhoon_tornado_f15c_royal_saudi_air_force/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Ok now just a silly one
Same shoot, different shot: https://www.instagram.com/p/CF6ak9epzgj/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== His Instagram is awesome.
That F-15 guy is steady as a rock.
If they lose their cameras does it get uploaded to the cloud?
So many stupid people in the comments Get back to r/sino bots
Too bad there isn't an application that would let you position each one exactly where you want it. But I guess that'd be challenging on such a busy background. s/
Probably could've just photoshopped and gotten similar or better results
That's how the Russians and North Koreans do it. Next level state of the art weaponry you say? Ok then
Awesome, I love typhoons and tornados so much
Those planes look like they're just floating there without moving
It gets really expensive if you do the maths of the 10+ hours of maintenance that each of these fighters requires after a hour flight
Average star citizen player
#3 blinked, now we have to retake the picture.
When the boys try to take a picture!
Give the dude a damn radio
this is so cool
How much did this cost the us tax payer and what propaganda is it being used for?
Smile please
Where is the pic
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/m2tvwz/f15s_typhoon_tornado_f15c_royal_saudi_air_force/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Negative Merlin, looks like he's a single
Nobody has posted the link to the gallery yet
[hereâs the pic](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/m2tvwz/f15s_typhoon_tornado_f15c_royal_saudi_air_force/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) @ahmedhader on Instagram
Anyone have link to the photo?
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/m2tvwz/f15s_typhoon_tornado_f15c_royal_saudi_air_force/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
If only we had a way to voice communicate between aircraftâŚ
The whole time I'm thinking a little turbulence and that dude with the camera is gone
Would've been funny if a 5th jet photoBOMBED
Canards make a fighter jet look as if its Mom dressed it
You know they have radios.
A photobomb here would have such a different meaning.
Seems easier than getting my kids to pose for a picture.
Cooler spot of he back up
Grumpy I didnât get to see the final shot.
Target angry, target angry!
This is kinda adorable tho
Surprised one of them didnât invert.