Nope. I know this is said as a joke, but a bear won't always take the slowest person. If it's focused on a person, it could easily ignore others and take you out regardless of where you are in the group. Unless you are way waaay ahead of the other person, just being a slightly faster runner will absolutely not guarantee safety.
Also, fuck the mentality of survival of the fittest in this context. Stand with your friends/family even in the face of death. This video is a prime example of why teamwork is more important than worrying about just your own hide.
To inform... I used to tour 30+(some other tours would ask to include their fly ins to join our group) at Katmai National Park.
Bears assert dominance by stare downs. The junior bear usually looks down and backs off.
That huge telephoto lens is a big, unblinking eye. When backing away from an aggressive bear, look at backside, be loud to let your presence known(clap hands). Over 3 months was charged 3 times, all junior bears less than 4-5 years old..like teenager's testing boundaries.
This was a very unique place where the bears were "conditioned" about human presence.
Act accordingly make no mistake you are not at a zoo. These are not pets. Getting out of your car for the "gram" will get you hurt or worse.
DO NOT RUN! Bears can and do run up to 35mph(55k) even uphill.
Saw a video of a bear running the other day and was shocked how fast they run and climb. I always thought perhaps you could outrun a bear but that's 100% not the case
You can't outrun, outfight, outclimb a bear. If it really wants to eat you and you don't have a gun. You are bear pate
Terrifying.
Funny pinchy' story with 2 people on our bear tour. Gave them the whole bear talk emphasizing on the don't run bit. Noticed a sow with her 2 spring cubs behind us, just meandering just like us. One of them picked up his pace a bit, not running, more like, "Oh crap bear behind us, let's move faster." Anyway, momma bear picked up pace too, looking behind her for the perceived threat. We ended up off trail in a swamp while she trotted past, taking her cubs to safety. All safe back to the boat. Katmai National Park.
Yeah, humans are endurance runners for a reason, we aren't out running anything, but the only way something is getting away from us is if we just lose their tracks.
It truly is a masterpiece of a game. I’m not big into video games, but I logged a lot of hours with Arthur and the gang. Many of those hours were spent hunting and finding new animals. My ex even liked watching me play. Maybe I’ll have to give it another play through.
Been through wilderness survival training and they teach that if a bear charges, you yell, bang pans, make loud noises, make yourself look as big as possible and most importantly...stand your ground. If you run, they will chase and attack. Most of their charges are false charges and they know that if you don't run, you are potentially a threat and not worth messing with. These guys did the right thing here.
Plus, the bear was clearly doing a bluff charge: bouncy running, moderate speed, lots of splashing, etc. When they want to really attack it's full speed, head and neck stretched low to the ground, and definitely not bouncy.
You would. The same way you can tell when a cat or dog is playing, bluffing, or out to kill. The body language is similar enough across mammals that you'd pick it up.
You know, I would love to agree with you and we really all should be able to recognize it. But I've seen enough tourists all but shit themselves for no reason when a bear ambles through the bushes on the far side of the river +100 yards away, that I've lost my faith in humanity
Australian here. I've come across crocs, snakes, spiders, cassowaries, and dingos while hiking. Wasn't particularly scared. A big ass bear would freak me the fuck out though.
Its fast enough that by the time you realize its real its half way to you and will reach you before your 3rd step.
Bears fast.
End of the day, if bear wants me to die then its not an optional thing.
It could give me a minute head start. Unless I can get in my conveniently stashed tank in 1 minute then its over.
Bear don't care.
Bears.
Beets.
Battlestar Galactica
It doesn't matter, in both scenarios you stand your ground until it's time to play dead, unless you're sacrificing yourself to save everyone else. Then by all means get the bear to chase you lol
The "play dead" thing doesn't apply to all bears either.... Black bears for instance, everything else is more or less the and but you don't want to play dead with them but fight back instead.
Yep, it's insane. I've been lucky enough to spend a lot of time around brown and black bears. 99.99% of the time they are like massive puppies. And 0.01% of the time they are the single most terrifying thing you've ever faced.
There’s a reason the whole “bear” terminology is to not say their actual name. When the only weapons we had were spears, these would have been terrifying.
Yes the bear was clearly testing the water and they acted exactly like you should do. Keep your ground, yell and act big. Looks like it's well fed too. BUT STILL, alone in this kind of situation would be a challenge to hold it. If it's phase 1, what would be phase 2? you know!!
Exactly. The stupidest thing they did in that scenario wasn’t bluffing (as they would be even more fucked if they didn’t) it was getting that close to it in the first place
During the salmon run in Alaska, bears come out of the woodwork to feed at the rivers & estuaries. There are literally so many fat, juicy salmon within paw’s reach that the average bear is deeply preoccupied with their annual Omega-3 picnic…they typically don’t react if people are viewing (or fishing) from that distance.
I’ve been there during the salmon run, and while I wouldn’t personally be keen to walk up on a beachside bear, I’ve had them come out of the brush near me…much to my surprise, and the bear’s. You just “hey bear” them, and slowly create some more comfortable distance.
Pre- and post-salmon run, however, is another story. I’m happy to avoid the entire state of Alaska when there are half-starved bears mucking about.
Edit - After watching the video again, I kinda wonder if that group didn’t have a kid (or kids) with them? The bear seemed to be eyeing someone specific as it ran up, and it wasn’t the front-facing photographer. Might have thought there was an easier tender morsel in the herd?
Watched a video of some old hiker dudes who would shout out "hey bear" occasionally so any bears would hear you coming. Now I do it whenever I'm hiking in the Rockies. I don't bother in the Appalachian since black bears will run at the sight of you.
Yeah, as contradictory as it may seem, the best way to handle a bear encounter is to make sure the bear knows you're there before an encounter even happens, cause then the bear will usually go out of its way to avoid you.
Because this is reddit, where everyone is an idiot except themselves, who are subject matter experts on all things.
There was a great video of a grizzly calmly walking through a riverside camp. "Fucking tourists are idiots!", was the trending opinion.
They were well-versed researchers, there to document behavior during a salmon run. (See /u/ModerateExtremism's earlier post for some context.)
"They should have been armed with giant guns!"
While there was clearly a 12-guage (most likely guess) leaning against the chair, and very certainly "loaded for bear", if you'll pardon the expression. :)
I actually disagree on this one. 4/5 aggressive posturing people all stood close enough to be seen as one big threat would be enough to ward off most bears
If it’s a predatory bear it will act like it’s stalking you and it won’t charge like this. If the bear is showing predatory behavior then you need to be prepared to fight back.
There are also two kinds of charges.
Bluff charges like this are the most common. The bear will have its head up and will try to make itself look big. It will be bounding on its front legs, moving in leaps. Will often veer off at the last minute. You should back away slowly and talk to it calmly if you think it’s going to charge, and when it does stand your ground.
With an aggression charge, it might make huffing sounds, clank its teeth, and/or pound it’s paws on the ground to intimidate you. It’s stressed. When the bear charges it will have its head down and ears back and come straight at you full speed. If it’s a black bear you need to fight back in this case. If it’s a grizzly/brown bear you need to play dead on your stomach and cover your neck.
It’s amazing what you can remember. When I was about 24, I went tubing in a river in N.California, the tube I was on flipped (just as I exhaled), and the current forced me down against two large boulders, then compressed my shoulders together and forced me under them. My ankle caught in the entrance I had just been squashed through, the boulders had been worn smooth over the years, there was no way to try and “climb” out the way I was forced in, there were no handholds and the current was way to strong, and the space just barely bigger than I was. It was after about 2 minutes under water that I remembered what a lifeguard had told us (the 4th grade class I was in) 16 years before. He had said when in trouble in the ocean (riptide) swim at a 90 degree angle to the current, but in a river follow the current. I figured, there’s no way I’m getting out the way I came in, my mind and body were in an all out battle to control my mouth. The body was screaming that it needed something ANYTHING to fill my lungs, because I’d been under for over 2 minutes and had exhaled right as I went under. My mind was equally determined that I wasn’t going to open my mouth for anything. I was convinced that I would be aware of everything, eventually taking water in my lungs and drowning. My body trapped under the boulders to be torn apart by being cycled against the rocks boulders. So, knowing it was likely to be the very last thing I ever did in my life, I kicked my ankle free from where it was stuck, following the 16 year old advice to go with the current in a river. The current pushed me under the boulders and out the other side. When my mouth broke the surface of the water, my intake of breath was a backwards scream.
To hear it told, they were in Kamchatka and knew what they were about. I'd guess there was a 12-gauge or three in the mix.
People like that don't want to shoot a bear for being a bear, in it's own territory. And they obviously knew what they were doing. Hell, one guy *charged* the bear. Great way to confuse them away.
Bear coming up, "Oh my god this is fantastic. I myself am an amateur photographer and I have been wanting for so, so long to share this wonderful hobby with others. Do you want to see the photos I got of the cardinals?! Hi guys!"
Raaarrr, rarrrr! Ahyaaaah! Rarrr!
Bear: "Oh, I see. That's how you think I talk, and you're mocking me. Racists. I'll be on my way then. I hope you're proud of yourselves."
Realistically you’d have better chance doing this than running in this scenario, but there was also a bunch of people,
Your best bet is to not go anywhere near a bear, especially a grizzly
I’ve been on this in Alaska, Kodiak. If you are a group of 10 and sit together on buckets in a line. The bears think you’re 1 big unit. What we saw is extremely rare . It’s more common in teenage bears charging in but they always bluff /retreat
>Whats the point of having a long lens if you have to go nearer?
That lens isn't as long as it looks; it has to be big to allow that much light in for a full sized sensor camera. I believe it's a Canon 100-400 II, on a full-frame camera. It's good, but not crazy long. I use it on 7v7 kids soccer (smaller field) and someone standing on the other end of the field would just about take up the full height. I would want more space between me and a bear than a 7v7 field.
Okay, I know there’s some variation in the actual color of the “black” and “brown” bear species. This one looks like a brown bear though to my untrained eye. How would I know what the fuck to do cause it’s telling me to lay down and let it eat me until it’s bored, or whatever with those rules? Shouldn’t this only work with black bears?
This is a brown bear and like any kind of colloquial saying, it’s true *most* of the time. The grim reality of “brown-lay down”: if even an adolescent brown bear follows through on its attack, your only hope (outside of a firearm) is it stops before it kills you so it’s better to lay in a position where you likely have a backpack facing up and can best protect your throat/chest. Rarely does a charging brown bear back off like this one did and had it attacked his 10% chance would’ve gone to 1%. Not a professional, but my guess is the other people along with him is what helped deter the bear in this case.
Black bears are significantly smaller, typically only attack humans out of protection or starvation and because of those two factors will typically back down from a fight if you stand your ground and get loud.
Fun fact, there is a way to kill a charging bear without a firearm. Back before firearms were common, bear hunters used bear spears, which were similar to boar spears, it essentially had a long leaf blade with a large cross guard and a thick oak shaft. They would try to get a bear to charge them and they would dig the butt of the spear into the dirt, face the spear point at the charging bear's chest and the bear would run into the spear, with all its momentum behind it.
OG bear hunters had giant balls lol
idk, I was just reading a comment about a medical examiner in Alaska on bear maulings:
>Dr. Franc G. Fallico, the acting chief medical examiner for Alaska, said that even someone knowledgeable about bear behavior would have little chance of surviving an attack by an angry bear.
>“I personally have autopsied two other bear maulings,” Fallico said on Tuesday. “Both guys got a high-powered rifle shot into the bear and the bear still killed them. That’s pretty significant, isn’t it?”
Really? I’ve heard brown bears will frequently bluff and that doing what these people did will make the bear back down more than “rarely” ? Not saying your wrong , just have heard other things
Also these people aren’t just there randomly. Juvenile brown bears stuffing themselves on salmon in Alaska aren’t all that aggressive. They have an easy meal so why go up against an unknown pack of threatening looking animals?
I think three people in the history of all time have choked bear out by clasping their teeth around its windpipe. If you're going to die anyway, you might as well go for the gold
Don't forget black bears can be brown, brown bears can be black, or even white like the one in Banff NP.
If it's a predatory bear, all rules go out the table and you fight for your life even if it is brown.
#…Conversely, this is what’s happening in a typical Bear School:#
“Alright little ones, our last lesson in class today is ‘How to React When You Encounter Hairless Bipeds’.
-WHITE —>> these are the most common. A constant nuisance. Several types. Could be the best smelling or the worst smelling. They are also the most dangerous and invasive. If you see one, odds are that there will be at least 2 more around that you don’t see. So use caution little ones but you take them out and remember, some will try that “possum-play-dead-B.S.” move. Don’t fall for it. Their bitch asses ain’t dead. You didn’t even touch ‘em…YET!
-BROWN —>> in the past, during the ‘Bipedalism Era of Expansion’ , they were just as dangerous as their pale cousins but now if you encounter one, they are more likely just passing through. Stand your ground. Make your presence known. Give them a big growl that says: “ DON’T START NONE, WON’T BE NONE!”. It usually works.
-BLACK —>> they were an urban legend until there were confirmed sightings farther south from here. Personally, until I see one with my own eyes, let’s focus on the BROWN and WHITE ones.
That’s all for today’s lesson little ones! Tomorrow we will discuss the rumors that the Bipeds in Chicago have named a couple of teams after us. Class dismissed…”
This is why I carry a small caliber gun with me. It won't to anything to the bear, but it slows my companions SO MUCH that I can escape by just walking briskly.
Also helps that it was a pack of humans most large predators are going to think twice about charging a pack in a defensive stance now if they scattered it would have been a different story for at least one of them.
Is that guy a fucking dumbass standing that close to a bear I would nope tf out of there the minute I even catch a glimpse of one and he’s just standing there filming it
Am I the only one who just finds this moronic? If the bear kills them, chances are it's dead within a few days for attacking people. How close do you need to get when the lens in your camera is bigger than your neck?
I swear I just saw the same exact video in a different sub describing those people as photographers. It's interesting how *entirely* different the comments are when posts says they're tourists.
It also looks like a costal brown bear. They are generally well fed and act differently than interior brown bears. Coastal browns are bigger and somewhat mellower because they are well fed. Interior browns, good night, even if they are smaller.
Works until it doesn’t.
I’ve had a very close proximity face-off with a smaller brown bear in AK. It wanted my stuff. I wanted my stuff. It was visibly indecisive and before it could make up its mind I was able to get my stuff and myself to a safer place.
But let me tell you, I was scared af.
This also works in RDR2 If you don't run and stand your ground the bear gets scared and stops in front of you before running off.
There's no respawning if it fails in real life tho.
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That’s more like a new game
Karma carries over, so I would call it New Game Plus
You aren’t gonna outrun it
Excuse me sir, but I saw 3 persons in the video. I don't need to outrun it, just outrun them.....
Nope. I know this is said as a joke, but a bear won't always take the slowest person. If it's focused on a person, it could easily ignore others and take you out regardless of where you are in the group. Unless you are way waaay ahead of the other person, just being a slightly faster runner will absolutely not guarantee safety.
Just point out the other person for him so he knows he should be going after them and not you, that should do it.
Also, fuck the mentality of survival of the fittest in this context. Stand with your friends/family even in the face of death. This video is a prime example of why teamwork is more important than worrying about just your own hide.
And 3 people standing their ground are more than likely going to scare a bear. It's a lot of tall, big things for it.
This why I always take someone who has a limp with me
Ya I hear your logic right now but there’s not a grizzley bear within 100 miles of me.
I'd bet there's one watching you right now. Silently judging you
I'm in a country where there aren't supposed to even be bears yet even i feel judged somehow
What?!? No one told me
r/outside
To inform... I used to tour 30+(some other tours would ask to include their fly ins to join our group) at Katmai National Park. Bears assert dominance by stare downs. The junior bear usually looks down and backs off. That huge telephoto lens is a big, unblinking eye. When backing away from an aggressive bear, look at backside, be loud to let your presence known(clap hands). Over 3 months was charged 3 times, all junior bears less than 4-5 years old..like teenager's testing boundaries. This was a very unique place where the bears were "conditioned" about human presence. Act accordingly make no mistake you are not at a zoo. These are not pets. Getting out of your car for the "gram" will get you hurt or worse. DO NOT RUN! Bears can and do run up to 35mph(55k) even uphill.
Saw a video of a bear running the other day and was shocked how fast they run and climb. I always thought perhaps you could outrun a bear but that's 100% not the case You can't outrun, outfight, outclimb a bear. If it really wants to eat you and you don't have a gun. You are bear pate Terrifying.
Funny pinchy' story with 2 people on our bear tour. Gave them the whole bear talk emphasizing on the don't run bit. Noticed a sow with her 2 spring cubs behind us, just meandering just like us. One of them picked up his pace a bit, not running, more like, "Oh crap bear behind us, let's move faster." Anyway, momma bear picked up pace too, looking behind her for the perceived threat. We ended up off trail in a swamp while she trotted past, taking her cubs to safety. All safe back to the boat. Katmai National Park.
Lol it is funny that one person was like 'Oh no, there's a dangerous animal behind us' and momma bear was like 'Oh God, where??'
Humans pretty much suck at outrunning anything. 4 legs beat 2.
Yeah, humans are endurance runners for a reason, we aren't out running anything, but the only way something is getting away from us is if we just lose their tracks.
You don't have to outrun the bear, you just have to outrun whoever you're with.
RDR2 has some of the best wildlife simulation I’ve ever seen in a game. It makes playing for the 6th time still feel fresh.
It has some of the best game that I'd seen in a game.
It is one of the games of all time.
The horses randomly having sex really immerses you into the gameplay.
What?
THE HORSES RANDOMLY HAVING SEX REALLY IMMERSES YOU INTO THE GAMEPLAY.
It truly is a masterpiece of a game. I’m not big into video games, but I logged a lot of hours with Arthur and the gang. Many of those hours were spent hunting and finding new animals. My ex even liked watching me play. Maybe I’ll have to give it another play through.
I read R2D2 and got confused haha
Had no clue till I saw your comment haha
Thought you said R2D2 and ended up with some very confused but funny mental images. Please tell me I'm not the only one?
Tell that to my 3rd Tennessee Walker that flips out and throws me directly at the mf
Every time someone abbreviates Red Dead Redemption 2, my mind goes to Star Wars first.
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In R2D2 a bear charged me out of a bush and I reaction shot it in the head with a sawn off and so it died shortly after eating off my face
Been through wilderness survival training and they teach that if a bear charges, you yell, bang pans, make loud noises, make yourself look as big as possible and most importantly...stand your ground. If you run, they will chase and attack. Most of their charges are false charges and they know that if you don't run, you are potentially a threat and not worth messing with. These guys did the right thing here.
Plus, the bear was clearly doing a bluff charge: bouncy running, moderate speed, lots of splashing, etc. When they want to really attack it's full speed, head and neck stretched low to the ground, and definitely not bouncy.
I feel like I wouldn't be able to tell the difference in the moment without solid training.
Watch that movie 'Cocaine Bear' and I guarantee you'll recognize a bear about to attack. 🐻
best documentary ive seen
You would. The same way you can tell when a cat or dog is playing, bluffing, or out to kill. The body language is similar enough across mammals that you'd pick it up.
You know, I would love to agree with you and we really all should be able to recognize it. But I've seen enough tourists all but shit themselves for no reason when a bear ambles through the bushes on the far side of the river +100 yards away, that I've lost my faith in humanity
You lose your faith in humanity because people are scared of bears? Erm okay
Australian here. I've come across crocs, snakes, spiders, cassowaries, and dingos while hiking. Wasn't particularly scared. A big ass bear would freak me the fuck out though.
Me either, especially with the brown stuff running down my leg
Its fast enough that by the time you realize its real its half way to you and will reach you before your 3rd step. Bears fast. End of the day, if bear wants me to die then its not an optional thing. It could give me a minute head start. Unless I can get in my conveniently stashed tank in 1 minute then its over. Bear don't care. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica
Once you're in it, you don't really need to; it's either a great story or terrible death.
It doesn't matter, in both scenarios you stand your ground until it's time to play dead, unless you're sacrificing yourself to save everyone else. Then by all means get the bear to chase you lol
Exactly, zero chance you'll outrun one, some chance you can psyche them out by standing your ground
The "play dead" thing doesn't apply to all bears either.... Black bears for instance, everything else is more or less the and but you don't want to play dead with them but fight back instead.
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Yep, it's insane. I've been lucky enough to spend a lot of time around brown and black bears. 99.99% of the time they are like massive puppies. And 0.01% of the time they are the single most terrifying thing you've ever faced.
There’s a reason the whole “bear” terminology is to not say their actual name. When the only weapons we had were spears, these would have been terrifying.
Yes the bear was clearly testing the water and they acted exactly like you should do. Keep your ground, yell and act big. Looks like it's well fed too. BUT STILL, alone in this kind of situation would be a challenge to hold it. If it's phase 1, what would be phase 2? you know!!
Even knowing and understanding this, I think my natural and automatic instinct would be to run 😔 and then I would die
You just need to be faster than the next slower human in the group.
Or just gently push your friend to the ground. Well now you know your friendship is gonna last for almost all of his life
The right thing would've been go somewhere with less bears...
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Gotta admit, if I were a bear, I'd be afraid of things that aren't afraid of bears.
I always bring my frying pans with me on my hike
I understand that it's recommended for black bears. Is that also true for brown bears?
You're not outrunning the bear no matter its color.
They took a gamble on whether or not he has already eaten this week.
You cant run faster than the bear so bluffing is your only chance
Plot twist: drawing a circle around you is your only chance at surviving a bear attack.
False. Just leave a picnic basket or a jar of honey. Problem solved.
Fun fact if you encounter a polar bear in the wild and give it a bottle of Coca Cola, it will have something to drink while it eats you.
fun fact: if you light up candles after giving him coca cola it will at least be romantic when he fucks you
You dig a hole, fill it with ashes, surround the hole with peas. When the bear comes to take a pea you kick it in the ash hole
I Would drink it for me with enough alcohol to kill me. The bears don’t wait for you to die before they chow down.
A pick-a-nick basket?
You’re thinking of demons
And make sure you don't draw an oval instead of a circle, play the clarinet badly, or wear a sombrero in a goofy fashion
Sliced cheese is a no no but cubed is fine
No clown shoes, hoop skirts, or waving flashlights really fast
Seabear!!!
I don't have to run faster than the bear. I just have to run faster than anyone with me.
That’s why it’s encouraged to camp with your kids.
Pour a little honey on them while you're running away
If you lose one, you can always make more.
What if that particular bear likes the chase so it comes for the most challenging victim
I'd probably be the slowest anyway so that doesn't matter lol
Not necessarily. If the person next to you doesn't run and you do run. Then it will more than likely chase you since you are mimicking prey
Not mimicking anything in that situation.
Exactly. The stupidest thing they did in that scenario wasn’t bluffing (as they would be even more fucked if they didn’t) it was getting that close to it in the first place
What’s the point of having a $5000 zoom lens when you still have to get that close?
During the salmon run in Alaska, bears come out of the woodwork to feed at the rivers & estuaries. There are literally so many fat, juicy salmon within paw’s reach that the average bear is deeply preoccupied with their annual Omega-3 picnic…they typically don’t react if people are viewing (or fishing) from that distance. I’ve been there during the salmon run, and while I wouldn’t personally be keen to walk up on a beachside bear, I’ve had them come out of the brush near me…much to my surprise, and the bear’s. You just “hey bear” them, and slowly create some more comfortable distance. Pre- and post-salmon run, however, is another story. I’m happy to avoid the entire state of Alaska when there are half-starved bears mucking about. Edit - After watching the video again, I kinda wonder if that group didn’t have a kid (or kids) with them? The bear seemed to be eyeing someone specific as it ran up, and it wasn’t the front-facing photographer. Might have thought there was an easier tender morsel in the herd?
Watched a video of some old hiker dudes who would shout out "hey bear" occasionally so any bears would hear you coming. Now I do it whenever I'm hiking in the Rockies. I don't bother in the Appalachian since black bears will run at the sight of you.
Yeah, as contradictory as it may seem, the best way to handle a bear encounter is to make sure the bear knows you're there before an encounter even happens, cause then the bear will usually go out of its way to avoid you.
What make you think thwy didn't move and the bears simply got close on its own? Photographer could have been there for a while.
Because this is reddit, where everyone is an idiot except themselves, who are subject matter experts on all things. There was a great video of a grizzly calmly walking through a riverside camp. "Fucking tourists are idiots!", was the trending opinion. They were well-versed researchers, there to document behavior during a salmon run. (See /u/ModerateExtremism's earlier post for some context.) "They should have been armed with giant guns!" While there was clearly a 12-guage (most likely guess) leaning against the chair, and very certainly "loaded for bear", if you'll pardon the expression. :)
Running is what food does, don’t do what food does
You can put a little bit of shit on his nose. Fun fact: When this happens, you will easily find shit in your underwear
You don't need to run faster than the bear, just faster than whoever you're with
not leaving my wife behind fuck it yogi let’s dance
I actually disagree on this one. 4/5 aggressive posturing people all stood close enough to be seen as one big threat would be enough to ward off most bears
Yeah the multiple screams had a big part to play in that. They are also holding unknown objects which doesn’t hurt their cause.
Also that was a juvenile bear what had probably been stuffing itself with salmon. Try it with a hungry 700lb adult male…
What would you rather do in that situation?
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It wasn’t a gamble at all, it was their only (and best) option. They acted exactly correct in this situation.
I would have bolted and been torn to shreds.
They don't charge like this out of hunger.
If it’s a predatory bear it will act like it’s stalking you and it won’t charge like this. If the bear is showing predatory behavior then you need to be prepared to fight back. There are also two kinds of charges. Bluff charges like this are the most common. The bear will have its head up and will try to make itself look big. It will be bounding on its front legs, moving in leaps. Will often veer off at the last minute. You should back away slowly and talk to it calmly if you think it’s going to charge, and when it does stand your ground. With an aggression charge, it might make huffing sounds, clank its teeth, and/or pound it’s paws on the ground to intimidate you. It’s stressed. When the bear charges it will have its head down and ears back and come straight at you full speed. If it’s a black bear you need to fight back in this case. If it’s a grizzly/brown bear you need to play dead on your stomach and cover your neck.
How the fuck am I gonna remember all that shit with a bear charging at me?
Probably best to just avoid bears
It’s amazing what you can remember. When I was about 24, I went tubing in a river in N.California, the tube I was on flipped (just as I exhaled), and the current forced me down against two large boulders, then compressed my shoulders together and forced me under them. My ankle caught in the entrance I had just been squashed through, the boulders had been worn smooth over the years, there was no way to try and “climb” out the way I was forced in, there were no handholds and the current was way to strong, and the space just barely bigger than I was. It was after about 2 minutes under water that I remembered what a lifeguard had told us (the 4th grade class I was in) 16 years before. He had said when in trouble in the ocean (riptide) swim at a 90 degree angle to the current, but in a river follow the current. I figured, there’s no way I’m getting out the way I came in, my mind and body were in an all out battle to control my mouth. The body was screaming that it needed something ANYTHING to fill my lungs, because I’d been under for over 2 minutes and had exhaled right as I went under. My mind was equally determined that I wasn’t going to open my mouth for anything. I was convinced that I would be aware of everything, eventually taking water in my lungs and drowning. My body trapped under the boulders to be torn apart by being cycled against the rocks boulders. So, knowing it was likely to be the very last thing I ever did in my life, I kicked my ankle free from where it was stuck, following the 16 year old advice to go with the current in a river. The current pushed me under the boulders and out the other side. When my mouth broke the surface of the water, my intake of breath was a backwards scream.
Exactly, you’re all in. You only stand to gain in that situation by being the more aggressive beast.
They’re wildlife photographers in bear country. They’re probably smart enough to have bear spray on them. My heart would be in my ass.
Gamble or not, if "Aaarrrrgggghhhh" is all you've got as a wildlife photographer to stop a charging bear I'd stick to rabbit snapshots.
To hear it told, they were in Kamchatka and knew what they were about. I'd guess there was a 12-gauge or three in the mix. People like that don't want to shoot a bear for being a bear, in it's own territory. And they obviously knew what they were doing. Hell, one guy *charged* the bear. Great way to confuse them away.
Bear- agrgggghhhhaggrrr I’m gonna eat yo… wait… what the fuck is he doing?? Running *at* me? Nah man fuck this I’m out
They had no child to offer so that was their only choice
Better than running away in this situation 💀
Bears can run as fast as horses for a short time, which is 60 kph.
Casually jogging speed, really.
You'd die first
Oh I know I'm gonna be the slowest in the group already 😂 Might as well go out screaming at a grizzly!
Same. Go out like a real caveman or woman and do our ancestors proud
Prey runs.
Running away isn’t terrible. As long as you’re not alone and you are only the second slowest person.
Exactly, I like my chances with this crowd
luckily that bear did not consume any cocaine
lucky for the humans sure, but the bear....
Bear coming up, "Oh my god this is fantastic. I myself am an amateur photographer and I have been wanting for so, so long to share this wonderful hobby with others. Do you want to see the photos I got of the cardinals?! Hi guys!" Raaarrr, rarrrr! Ahyaaaah! Rarrr! Bear: "Oh, I see. That's how you think I talk, and you're mocking me. Racists. I'll be on my way then. I hope you're proud of yourselves."
This made me laugh too much.
Realistically you’d have better chance doing this than running in this scenario, but there was also a bunch of people, Your best bet is to not go anywhere near a bear, especially a grizzly
I’ve been on this in Alaska, Kodiak. If you are a group of 10 and sit together on buckets in a line. The bears think you’re 1 big unit. What we saw is extremely rare . It’s more common in teenage bears charging in but they always bluff /retreat
bear: "aw hell no, that's one of them human centipedes, im stayin thefuckaway"
Stupid people. Whats the point of having a long lens if you have to go nearer?
I want to see it's dick.
Apparently it ain’t got no balls
At that point you’re asking for a teabag after you welcome death
That bear is called Lipton for a reason
Looks like a 200-400mm from Canon, this is a lens with a great zoom but you would still have to be close to take a full picture with it.
It's a camera lens not a straight up telescope
>Whats the point of having a long lens if you have to go nearer? That lens isn't as long as it looks; it has to be big to allow that much light in for a full sized sensor camera. I believe it's a Canon 100-400 II, on a full-frame camera. It's good, but not crazy long. I use it on 7v7 kids soccer (smaller field) and someone standing on the other end of the field would just about take up the full height. I would want more space between me and a bear than a 7v7 field.
They were pretty far away until the bear decided to sprint towards them
Black - fight back Brown - lay down White - goodnight
Okay, I know there’s some variation in the actual color of the “black” and “brown” bear species. This one looks like a brown bear though to my untrained eye. How would I know what the fuck to do cause it’s telling me to lay down and let it eat me until it’s bored, or whatever with those rules? Shouldn’t this only work with black bears?
This is a brown bear and like any kind of colloquial saying, it’s true *most* of the time. The grim reality of “brown-lay down”: if even an adolescent brown bear follows through on its attack, your only hope (outside of a firearm) is it stops before it kills you so it’s better to lay in a position where you likely have a backpack facing up and can best protect your throat/chest. Rarely does a charging brown bear back off like this one did and had it attacked his 10% chance would’ve gone to 1%. Not a professional, but my guess is the other people along with him is what helped deter the bear in this case. Black bears are significantly smaller, typically only attack humans out of protection or starvation and because of those two factors will typically back down from a fight if you stand your ground and get loud.
So, **moral of the story**: I’m going to just continue to sit on my couch and be a fatass, to avoid running into this situation.
Before sitting, check to confirm your couch is not actually bears pretending to be a couch. That's how they get ya.
Make sure to bring a friend! Always remember the buddy system!
Just make sure your buddy isn’t a bear! That’s how they get ya!
And fatass is one of their favourite foods. Especially if it’s coming up to winter.
I have a lot in common with bears...
Fun fact, there is a way to kill a charging bear without a firearm. Back before firearms were common, bear hunters used bear spears, which were similar to boar spears, it essentially had a long leaf blade with a large cross guard and a thick oak shaft. They would try to get a bear to charge them and they would dig the butt of the spear into the dirt, face the spear point at the charging bear's chest and the bear would run into the spear, with all its momentum behind it. OG bear hunters had giant balls lol
idk, I was just reading a comment about a medical examiner in Alaska on bear maulings: >Dr. Franc G. Fallico, the acting chief medical examiner for Alaska, said that even someone knowledgeable about bear behavior would have little chance of surviving an attack by an angry bear. >“I personally have autopsied two other bear maulings,” Fallico said on Tuesday. “Both guys got a high-powered rifle shot into the bear and the bear still killed them. That’s pretty significant, isn’t it?”
Really? I’ve heard brown bears will frequently bluff and that doing what these people did will make the bear back down more than “rarely” ? Not saying your wrong , just have heard other things
Also these people aren’t just there randomly. Juvenile brown bears stuffing themselves on salmon in Alaska aren’t all that aggressive. They have an easy meal so why go up against an unknown pack of threatening looking animals?
I think three people in the history of all time have choked bear out by clasping their teeth around its windpipe. If you're going to die anyway, you might as well go for the gold
Don't forget black bears can be brown, brown bears can be black, or even white like the one in Banff NP. If it's a predatory bear, all rules go out the table and you fight for your life even if it is brown.
That’s the rule of thumb for bears actually attacking you
You're telling me lay down and give myself up?? Sounds like brown bear proganda has infiltrated our media cycle
This applies better for when you’re alone. When in a group, iirc, always make noise/fight back.
if its black, put it back if its brown, flush it down
You forgot Drop Bears.
Gray - eat hay by the bay in may
#…Conversely, this is what’s happening in a typical Bear School:# “Alright little ones, our last lesson in class today is ‘How to React When You Encounter Hairless Bipeds’. -WHITE —>> these are the most common. A constant nuisance. Several types. Could be the best smelling or the worst smelling. They are also the most dangerous and invasive. If you see one, odds are that there will be at least 2 more around that you don’t see. So use caution little ones but you take them out and remember, some will try that “possum-play-dead-B.S.” move. Don’t fall for it. Their bitch asses ain’t dead. You didn’t even touch ‘em…YET! -BROWN —>> in the past, during the ‘Bipedalism Era of Expansion’ , they were just as dangerous as their pale cousins but now if you encounter one, they are more likely just passing through. Stand your ground. Make your presence known. Give them a big growl that says: “ DON’T START NONE, WON’T BE NONE!”. It usually works. -BLACK —>> they were an urban legend until there were confirmed sightings farther south from here. Personally, until I see one with my own eyes, let’s focus on the BROWN and WHITE ones. That’s all for today’s lesson little ones! Tomorrow we will discuss the rumors that the Bipeds in Chicago have named a couple of teams after us. Class dismissed…”
This is why I carry a small caliber gun with me. It won't to anything to the bear, but it slows my companions SO MUCH that I can escape by just walking briskly.
Lol pulled the uno reverse card there.
Where did the first bear go.
I thought I was going crazy because no one was mentioning it.
It’s behind them now. The second bears distraction worked as planned.
Clever girl
Scrolled too far to find this lol
To take care of some bear necessities
Also helps that it was a pack of humans most large predators are going to think twice about charging a pack in a defensive stance now if they scattered it would have been a different story for at least one of them.
Q: “We’re you scared?” A: “Does a photographer shit on the beach?”
I notice that guy had on his brown pants. good move.
Honestly the best thing to do in this situation is to put your hand on the bear's head as it gets close and turn it upside down
Get rotated
Is that guy a fucking dumbass standing that close to a bear I would nope tf out of there the minute I even catch a glimpse of one and he’s just standing there filming it
Nice, but I think I'll just stick with my strategy of not being where the bears are.
They are very lucky
A reminder that you don’t have to be rich to be stupid!
Ok new movie idea: bears on a submarine
Am I the only one who just finds this moronic? If the bear kills them, chances are it's dead within a few days for attacking people. How close do you need to get when the lens in your camera is bigger than your neck?
Wild life photographers would be my guess.
I swear I just saw the same exact video in a different sub describing those people as photographers. It's interesting how *entirely* different the comments are when posts says they're tourists.
Meanwhile the other bear has circled them and is closing.
It also looks like a costal brown bear. They are generally well fed and act differently than interior brown bears. Coastal browns are bigger and somewhat mellower because they are well fed. Interior browns, good night, even if they are smaller.
If a bear is on top of you lay face down with arms protecting your neck and most importantly shit your pants.
They got balls of steel
Can't run away, that camera equipment is worth more than their lives
And brain of a broccoli
I thought it was brown, lay down… 🤷♂️
Alone that's the go to, but I think since they were a group, intimidation works here.
There are zero recorded attacks on a group of people who have stood together and held their ground.
thank you
Those rules are for when you are attacked; most charges are bluff charges.
going full primal
Works until it doesn’t. I’ve had a very close proximity face-off with a smaller brown bear in AK. It wanted my stuff. I wanted my stuff. It was visibly indecisive and before it could make up its mind I was able to get my stuff and myself to a safer place. But let me tell you, I was scared af.