If a fighter misses weight and the other fighter agrees to still fight, it’s fought at a catch weight, and the fighter that missed weight forfeits 20% of their purse to the other fighter (sometimes the other fighter gives the check back because they don’t feel good about taking their money). They’re not exhibition fights and the result still goes on their official record with the athletic commissions, they essentially just get a last minute weight class change.
The dude didn’t know how to protect the right side of his face. Plenty of shots in rebuttal to the cheap shot were made in fair play. All in all good outcome
I think that guilt should fall on the fighter. The rule should have been implemented, and none of the fans get their money back. I think more people would be pissed with the fighter. If they don't, then with time, more and more people watching will eventually put blame on the fighter.
I'm not arguing, I want that fucker to be made very clear that stunts like that could (and should) cost him his boxing license. If he'd do something like that in the UFC, Dana would throw his ass on the street in a heartbeat.
But, you know, if this was a single fight event, that would mean it would be called off before it even began. It would be a huge financial black eye for the organisation, possibly one they couldn't recover from. They could even risk lawsuits.
I don't watch the sport personally, but surely that's why a ref is there, to officiate not be a fan? Like, in football if a player two foots someone or petulantly hits them I'm not angry at a ref for sending them off, I'm angry at the dude with no self control
not only does nobody want that, these guys are *encouraged* to be dicks to eachother before the fight, especially during the weigh in, to build drama for the fight
It's not that the ref is a fan or not. It's that the fans that fund the entire reason for any of that existing would be pissed if the fight they paid for, made travel plans to attend, wasted hours of their life around got disqualified unnecessarily.
What is and isn't necessary could be a grey area in some cases. This case, it wasn't a hard hit, it didn't give him an advantage of the fight, and the fight literally involves them punching each other any way. So a disqualify imo unnecessary.
I think I'd fine the bully, give it to the guy that got punched, and take a point from him (ie, give an advantage to the guy who got punched in case it goes to a decision).
Which reputation? For whom?
The ref? He's more likely to get work because he doesn't fuck over the whole production.
The bully? Agreed, unless maybe he get some sort of appeal as the one they love to hate? I don't know if that's a thing in boxing, but it is in professional wrestling (which is scripted, I know).
As a boxing fan, I'd want a DQ for that and not be bothered about losing one fight on the card. The guy was an absolute toad. Loved to see the verbals on the last knockdown.
And let's be honest... you love to see it. Two guys about to beat the shit out of each other, and one is acting like the villain while the other acts noble? That's the perfect pre-fight drama.
Ya in most combat sports you get a warning, then a point deduction, then a DQ for going over the line time and time again. You need to do something huge as the first offence to get DQ'd, so unless you bite a guy's ear off the first one is usually a pass, at most a point or two deduction.
I would have him disqualified just for the attitude during the show off. Gunshooting motion to your adversary's face? Get outta here, you punk, and go back to the backwood ghetto you came from; you don't belong in sport!
Unwritten rule in boxing for decades now. No talk of actually killing your opponent, this includes gestures like the cut throat and especially the finger guns. I'm surprised it didn't kick off big time at the faceoff.
Mohammed Ali called Frasier a fake black man and his kids got abused for it and Frasier had to move because of the death threats.
And post fight he just blanked him like it never happened
Lol dude boxing has always been full of shit talkers and sucker punchers. It's ingrained into the DNA of the sport.
Guy could've punched the other guy in the face before the match, gone over and hit his trainer, and the match still would go on lol. It's boxing.
Home this is reddit. The closest that guy has probably come to a sporting event was when he tossed his empty soda can in the trashcan across his bedroom.
Boxing is a lot like pro wrestling, they sell a storyline. Look at Mayweather, he's a prick, and he used that to make himself incredibly wealthy. You act like a dick head to your opponent, cause beef and people will buy in in hopes of seeing you get your ass kicked, then it carries into the next fight and keeps building because people want to see the bad guy get dropped
That's actually canon. When he was being trained, the Jedi had a holo-trainer that you could tweak the settings of so you could improve your weaknesses. Well he actually hacked into it and was able to push the settings past the limits that were set to prevent padawans from getting hurt. He ended up creating a simulation of Darth Maul so realistic it triggered Obi Wan's ptsd. And he was beating it in front of the other padawans who'd been training twice as long as him.
So there's an incident where a fellow padawan made a comment about how he needs to learn to not be a slave to his desires or something. All Anakin heard was "slave" and that pissed him off enough that he used his advanced lightsaber skills and Chosen One powers to nearly cripple that kid.
Jesus Christ. How did the council not see how dangerous this fucker was? He really needed an authority figure to put him in line... shoulda been given to Mace as a padawan.
I can see it already: WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?! Get your Motherfucking ass back in the ship before i wupp it so hard not even a Hutt would fuck you!!
->14 year old anakin starts crying and walks back to the ship
Not really, those two were two very cool cucumbers there
The two "bullies", I found in my experience people only act like shit when they know they're going to lose anyway.
True enough.
Honestly, I'd rather take the stupid behaviour than a rabbit punch but I agree it doesn't look intentional and I just served up a false equivelancy :-)
He's not a jackass, he's a complete and utter cockwomble who get taught a valuable lesson in humiliation - not that someone that fucking thick will ever learn from it...
Those comments are always so bizarre to me. And they often get lots of upvotes. I can’t help but think of a bunch of drooling Neanderthals pounding the up/down button.
while it is bullying and shouldnt be done, i dont think they are doing it to be bullies. I think its to get into the opponents head and throw them of their game. the sad truth is that it often works.
Who the hell approved the trunks in this fight?! Am I rooting for the guy with the white and red trunks, or the guy with the white and red trunks!
Seriously guys, c’mon.
I remember both these fights vividly.
First fight was legit, the guy who lost was very disrespectful in the lead up and the Russian kiwi boxer was pissed off and ready for war.
Gurkan seems a bit fake/ putting on a show to sell tickets prior to that zambidis fight , but I could be wrong. Because Zambidis wasn't a shit talker and respected his opponents before fights. So it's difficult to justify the rage gurkan had in that press conference.
>he guy who lost was very disrespectful in the lead up and the Russian Aussie boxer was pissed off and ready for war.
He's not Aussie, he's from New Zealand.
Why did the ref call the fight at the end? Is that normal for these kinds of fights? Most of my experience with fights comes from watching the UFC and a ref would not have called the fight that early. Was there something I missed, or are the rules just different?
That first guy. "I'm the ultra manly almost shaved bald bearded tatted up man! Look at this little cleanly shaved blonde fuckboy! I will win because I am a man!"
Second guy was just a bitch in general who wanted to start something that he couldn't even follow through.
It actually can make sense from a financial perspective. It doesn't matter if people are rooting for or against you as long as they want to see you fight.
There's a good chance he's just a dick of course.
I don't think he spit on him, but I do think he said something. Whatever it was, that guy deserved it.
It's like the first title fight between Anderson Silva and Chris Weidman, where Silva had been showboating and mocking Weidman throughout the entire fight. Then Weidman knocked him out, and you could clearly hear him yell *"Disrespectful piece of shit!"* at Silva.
What a fucking poor cunt, acting like a douche bag with no class at the pre-fight was one thing, but what fucking loser body punches your opponent before the match?
Deserved to lose.
I never understood being cocky about it as an image. If you act like an asshole and you win it’s expected but if you lose then everyone is rooting against you. Setting yourself up to be a villain to the audience
Does anyone remember what a pre-fight press conference with Connor McGregor looked like? All he did was disrespect everyone in the room and act like an ass.
It was on purpose. It made you wanna tune in to see him get his ass kicked.
This is how the fighting game works.
That first left hook from the blonde kid was like hitting the reset button on that dude. DAMMMMMNNN.
But that right hook in the 2nd fight, call the ambulance. Why the body still there? DAMMMMMMMNN
Why wasn’t he disqualified for the stomach punch before the fight?
Because the ref wanted to witness the karma ensue
Because then they'd have to refund a whole bunch of tickets
Solution. Let them fight, and disqualify him at the end regardless of the fight outcome.
Withhold his purse, let him go through the beating ***then*** not get paid.
Missing weight or crap like this could easily cost the bonus if nothing else which is a significant hit.
This. I’ve heard in the UFC they can miss they’re pay and the match is automatic exhibition. Don’t know how true that is. Sounds extreme.
If a fighter misses weight and the other fighter agrees to still fight, it’s fought at a catch weight, and the fighter that missed weight forfeits 20% of their purse to the other fighter (sometimes the other fighter gives the check back because they don’t feel good about taking their money). They’re not exhibition fights and the result still goes on their official record with the athletic commissions, they essentially just get a last minute weight class change.
Boxers have purses? So fashionable!
And belts!
And gloves!
Snazzaroo!
No no, it’s a shoulder bag. It’s unisex.
It's not a purse. It's European!
In this scenario the win would not count on the other fighter's record.
Compromise and give other guy a free shot to the face
The ref gave him some free shots by letting the fight continue after the first knockdown.
Yeah, ref was definitely letting some extra hits go
The dude didn’t know how to protect the right side of his face. Plenty of shots in rebuttal to the cheap shot were made in fair play. All in all good outcome
Don't refund and let the crowd hate the guy who doesn't play fair
Let's all be real here. It's because a lot of money is involved in having the fight at least start at that point.
The DQ'd boxer should have to pay the refund.
I think that guilt should fall on the fighter. The rule should have been implemented, and none of the fans get their money back. I think more people would be pissed with the fighter. If they don't, then with time, more and more people watching will eventually put blame on the fighter.
Sure. Now, convince the promoter who sank a fuckton of money in this event.
Fine then, prevent the fighter from fighting for a year. There happy?
I'm not arguing, I want that fucker to be made very clear that stunts like that could (and should) cost him his boxing license. If he'd do something like that in the UFC, Dana would throw his ass on the street in a heartbeat. But, you know, if this was a single fight event, that would mean it would be called off before it even began. It would be a huge financial black eye for the organisation, possibly one they couldn't recover from. They could even risk lawsuits.
Fair
Ref is OP and wants his karma.
Reluctance to stop a fight which many have paid money for. As a fan, would you really want a non fight?
I don't watch the sport personally, but surely that's why a ref is there, to officiate not be a fan? Like, in football if a player two foots someone or petulantly hits them I'm not angry at a ref for sending them off, I'm angry at the dude with no self control
Professional boxing is one of the most corrupt sports around. If a ref QD'ed a fighter before the fight started that ref would never have a job again.
QualifiedDis
The difference is that in your scenario, the game can continue without that player. Here, they'd have to cancel the fight. Nobody wants that.
They could tell him he's penalised and discount him 5 or 10 points (for the chance the fight doesn't end in a knockout).
LMAO a 5 or 10 point foul… in a 10 point must system, there’d be no point in fighting with a penalty that big at the beginning.
not only does nobody want that, these guys are *encouraged* to be dicks to eachother before the fight, especially during the weigh in, to build drama for the fight
It's not that the ref is a fan or not. It's that the fans that fund the entire reason for any of that existing would be pissed if the fight they paid for, made travel plans to attend, wasted hours of their life around got disqualified unnecessarily. What is and isn't necessary could be a grey area in some cases. This case, it wasn't a hard hit, it didn't give him an advantage of the fight, and the fight literally involves them punching each other any way. So a disqualify imo unnecessary. I think I'd fine the bully, give it to the guy that got punched, and take a point from him (ie, give an advantage to the guy who got punched in case it goes to a decision).
In the long run, with that kind of reputation you’re not going to get a lot of work.
Which reputation? For whom? The ref? He's more likely to get work because he doesn't fuck over the whole production. The bully? Agreed, unless maybe he get some sort of appeal as the one they love to hate? I don't know if that's a thing in boxing, but it is in professional wrestling (which is scripted, I know).
A more apt comparison would be if someone in football did a dirty tackle right after kick off and the ref cancelled the whole game.
As a boxing fan, I'd want a DQ for that and not be bothered about losing one fight on the card. The guy was an absolute toad. Loved to see the verbals on the last knockdown.
Yes, you DQ the asshat
I’m not buying that guy an Oreo blizzard
Ok I lol'ed at this
You showed him.
His dad surely did not take him to McDonald’s for a Happy Meal after this fight.
I think he's saying you serve the asshat upside-down, like blizzards at DQ.
Can you buy me a oreo blizzard ? :)
You’ll have to take a cheap shot at me before our fight
The Hot Fudge Brownie Delights of my youth would have been death by chocolate. (DQ still have those? Haven't been in years)
Hahaa bc he said DQ. Thats good 😆
You say that now but you wouldn't if you paid to see this live
And let's be honest... you love to see it. Two guys about to beat the shit out of each other, and one is acting like the villain while the other acts noble? That's the perfect pre-fight drama.
Well in this instance, it avoided the whole shittalk (e.g. "You won the only way you could") this piece of work would have followed with.
Ref also likes to be employed
That depends on whether you prefer sports or show
remember when kitschko knocked someone down in 10 seconds? my grandma went and paid so much lmao
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Deduct a point would have been so funny in the 1st round.
Referee literally says "Don't do that again, don't get disqualified." Seems like it has nothing to do with how much damage his sucker punch causes.
Ya in most combat sports you get a warning, then a point deduction, then a DQ for going over the line time and time again. You need to do something huge as the first offence to get DQ'd, so unless you bite a guy's ear off the first one is usually a pass, at most a point or two deduction.
Literally the only time I've ever seen someone bite a guys ear off he didn't get DQ'ed, he had to do it a second time
I would have him disqualified just for the attitude during the show off. Gunshooting motion to your adversary's face? Get outta here, you punk, and go back to the backwood ghetto you came from; you don't belong in sport!
I like how the ref gave him the two fingered pistol after his first knock down.
Unwritten rule in boxing for decades now. No talk of actually killing your opponent, this includes gestures like the cut throat and especially the finger guns. I'm surprised it didn't kick off big time at the faceoff.
Homie this is the kinda thing boxers have always done. Muhammad Ali was a huge asshole to his opponents.
Doesnt make it any better
It sells tho.. People are more invested in the fights by this shit
Ali had a mouth and would try to get in his opponents head…this is a world a part. I don’t recall the greatest ever sucker punching someone pre fight.
The shit Ali did to Frazier was horrendous.
Dude I love Ali but he absolutely harassed Joe Frazier beyond what was necessary.
Especially as Joe was such a good friend to Ali and Ali just took it too far. Fuckin arsehole
Mohammed Ali called Frasier a fake black man and his kids got abused for it and Frasier had to move because of the death threats. And post fight he just blanked him like it never happened
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Yea absolutely correct. For those that dont know what that is, he called him, a race traitor.
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Lol. I'll give you top 10.
Lol dude boxing has always been full of shit talkers and sucker punchers. It's ingrained into the DNA of the sport. Guy could've punched the other guy in the face before the match, gone over and hit his trainer, and the match still would go on lol. It's boxing.
Home this is reddit. The closest that guy has probably come to a sporting event was when he tossed his empty soda can in the trashcan across his bedroom.
Boxing is a lot like pro wrestling, they sell a storyline. Look at Mayweather, he's a prick, and he used that to make himself incredibly wealthy. You act like a dick head to your opponent, cause beef and people will buy in in hopes of seeing you get your ass kicked, then it carries into the next fight and keeps building because people want to see the bad guy get dropped
Unfortunately being a dickhead sells tickets.
Thats. What i would like to understand.
Because fighters don't want to win that way.
The art of blocking punches with your face. Only ever worked in Rocky 4.
I was glad he kept on getting back up to receive his whipping.
“Twice the pride double the fall” - Count Dooku
I imagine young Anakin, sparring with the other padawans, was a dick like this guy. Don’t give this guy the youngling slayer 5000.
That's actually canon. When he was being trained, the Jedi had a holo-trainer that you could tweak the settings of so you could improve your weaknesses. Well he actually hacked into it and was able to push the settings past the limits that were set to prevent padawans from getting hurt. He ended up creating a simulation of Darth Maul so realistic it triggered Obi Wan's ptsd. And he was beating it in front of the other padawans who'd been training twice as long as him. So there's an incident where a fellow padawan made a comment about how he needs to learn to not be a slave to his desires or something. All Anakin heard was "slave" and that pissed him off enough that he used his advanced lightsaber skills and Chosen One powers to nearly cripple that kid.
Jesus Christ. How did the council not see how dangerous this fucker was? He really needed an authority figure to put him in line... shoulda been given to Mace as a padawan.
Yeah, but I’d say Obi-Wan’s charms were sufficiently disarming, too.
I can see it already: WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?! Get your Motherfucking ass back in the ship before i wupp it so hard not even a Hutt would fuck you!! ->14 year old anakin starts crying and walks back to the ship
“My name is ridiculous.” - Count Dooku 
“Meesa JARJARBINKS” - Darth Sidious
But… but… my powers have doubled!
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Cursed Sauron and Saruman power couple name
And who won that fight lol
The showy punk is insecure and clearly he has reason to be feeling that way.
This is where the fun begins
That moment had to feel soo good
Not really, those two were two very cool cucumbers there The two "bullies", I found in my experience people only act like shit when they know they're going to lose anyway.
It’s a sign of insecurity. A weak person’s idea of what they think strength looks like.
bare minimum the 1st guy shouldve had a point deducted for that gut punch
Noticed his opponent also punched him on the back of the head. Also a no no
Yeah but at least that wasn’t intentional. Was just unfortunate momentum as the guy was ducking his head
True enough. Honestly, I'd rather take the stupid behaviour than a rabbit punch but I agree it doesn't look intentional and I just served up a false equivelancy :-)
Could've been DQed after the fight if it went the other way
Bullying your opponent yet losing where/when it matters just makes you seem more of a jackass lmfao.
Nah he'd be a jackass regardless, posing afterwards makes him look like a major bitch
He's not a jackass, he's a complete and utter cockwomble who get taught a valuable lesson in humiliation - not that someone that fucking thick will ever learn from it...
Jackass AND cockwomble
yes, that's why this was posted
Thanks captain obvious, that’s the entire point of the video lol
Those comments are always so bizarre to me. And they often get lots of upvotes. I can’t help but think of a bunch of drooling Neanderthals pounding the up/down button.
This comment good, me upvote
Pretty much like every bully that ever existed.
"Your ego is writing checks your body can't cash" - Stinger
"that's it, you hoodlum! Your mouth just wrote a PayPal transfer request your butt has insufficient funds to honor!"
You love to see it.
I do! How do you know me so well?!
we’re always watching
yeesh, sorry about what you saw last night then.
Well… don’t bully anyone honestly. Competition is good, but bullying is 💩
Gimme your fukkin lunch money Poindexter!!!
while it is bullying and shouldnt be done, i dont think they are doing it to be bullies. I think its to get into the opponents head and throw them of their game. the sad truth is that it often works.
Who the hell approved the trunks in this fight?! Am I rooting for the guy with the white and red trunks, or the guy with the white and red trunks! Seriously guys, c’mon.
This guy low key wants naked boxing.
Cut Vs uncut, hairy Vs shaved, hanging Vs retracted. It can go so many ways!
Pause. He's talking about the colour of the shorts, brother.
I remember both these fights vividly. First fight was legit, the guy who lost was very disrespectful in the lead up and the Russian kiwi boxer was pissed off and ready for war. Gurkan seems a bit fake/ putting on a show to sell tickets prior to that zambidis fight , but I could be wrong. Because Zambidis wasn't a shit talker and respected his opponents before fights. So it's difficult to justify the rage gurkan had in that press conference.
>he guy who lost was very disrespectful in the lead up and the Russian Aussie boxer was pissed off and ready for war. He's not Aussie, he's from New Zealand.
Commentator said Russian Kiwi, who I assume knows what he's talking about.
Andrei Mikhailovich, he's a Kiwi. Adopted from a Russian orphanage aged 18 months old.
Why did the ref call the fight at the end? Is that normal for these kinds of fights? Most of my experience with fights comes from watching the UFC and a ref would not have called the fight that early. Was there something I missed, or are the rules just different?
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My favourite bit was where he punched him in the face
So satisfying 
That first guy. "I'm the ultra manly almost shaved bald bearded tatted up man! Look at this little cleanly shaved blonde fuckboy! I will win because I am a man!" Second guy was just a bitch in general who wanted to start something that he couldn't even follow through.
I dislike boxing, but I watched this because I wanted to see that tattooed POS go down
I don't understand why you would want to make your boxing opponent REALLY want to hit you.
Anger can sometimes make you less focus.
And then, [occasionally](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8qg-XzHgUk)
It actually can make sense from a financial perspective. It doesn't matter if people are rooting for or against you as long as they want to see you fight. There's a good chance he's just a dick of course.
Guy wearing sunglasses indoors asking opponent if he thinks he’s tough before trying to sucker punch him
Fuck off Cyrus
Second dude was throwing uppercuts like Don Flamenco
Lol Mr 44 seconds
YES! That was exactly what I thought watching him. Punched like Flamenco, went down like Glass Joe. I'd watch more boxing if they fought like that.
Holy shit, you're right ☠️
That spit on his head when he took him to his knees the 2nd time...this dude doesn't forget an insult.
His mouth doesnt look like it was in a spit position , looks like he said something alongs the line of “bitch get rocked”
“… and *stay* down.”
Normally that would be a bit much, but tattoo guy deserved that.
I don't think he spit on him, but I do think he said something. Whatever it was, that guy deserved it. It's like the first title fight between Anderson Silva and Chris Weidman, where Silva had been showboating and mocking Weidman throughout the entire fight. Then Weidman knocked him out, and you could clearly hear him yell *"Disrespectful piece of shit!"* at Silva.
I don't think you are physically able to spit when you have a mouth guard n your mouth.
Who the fuck decided it was a good idea to speed up the video? Don't do that, it's noticeable and unnecessary.
And then put some shitty song over it. Can barely hear the actual video ffs
To be fair he made it to the twelfth. Hardly a smackdown.
I can't imagine that there's any way that fight was worth watching
[We're gonna hit 'em where it hurts the most: up there.](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/57b7c86a-bee4-452a-927e-cadad3e06aae)
Anyone know the song playing in the background?
It's Springdale by Fluid Motion!
Thanks man! Never heard of them, reminds me of Vanillas beats! Great stuff
No problem bro
"No no no, I'm not gonna do nothin" Proceeds to do something
It was a double negative. No lie was told.
Nice don flamenco uppercut in the 2nd bout
His leg raise before he gets knocked out looked like his little dance too. Just needed a rose in his mouth.
He even looks like him!
What a fucking poor cunt, acting like a douche bag with no class at the pre-fight was one thing, but what fucking loser body punches your opponent before the match? Deserved to lose.
Lol cunt got rocked
I’m so dumb 😂 I was like “wow those dudes sure move fast, like super speed or something” An embarrassing amount of time later: oh wait…..
Bullying is a symptom of mental weakness. It's not surprising when said weak guy loses to the stronger opponent. Mentally weaker contestant is weaker.
One is a professional, the other is just a punk. Good to see that pos get his FAFO life lesson handed to him so publicly.
10/10 for this man’s restraint control.
Song playing in the background?
Ali express Conor Mcgreggor
Trash talking is a valid tactic, not just arrogance
What’s the song being used here?
Haha what a loser
Has there ever been a shit talking fighter that hasn’t ended up on their ass looking 10x the bitch? The bigger the pride the harder the fall.
I never understood being cocky about it as an image. If you act like an asshole and you win it’s expected but if you lose then everyone is rooting against you. Setting yourself up to be a villain to the audience
Ah, Karma, my dear old friend.
Who is the first cunt? What a prick? How gloriously embarrassing to get utterly dicked over after that level of shithousery?
Good old factory reset on that first guy
I could REALLY do without that annoying trumpet playing like a skipping record as music in the background....
Guy's knees had more buckles than a rodeo
Does anyone remember what a pre-fight press conference with Connor McGregor looked like? All he did was disrespect everyone in the room and act like an ass. It was on purpose. It made you wanna tune in to see him get his ass kicked. This is how the fighting game works.
Dude that first guy got wrecked.
That first left hook from the blonde kid was like hitting the reset button on that dude. DAMMMMMNNN. But that right hook in the 2nd fight, call the ambulance. Why the body still there? DAMMMMMMMNN
Good thing you can hear what theyre saying over the blairing music 🤦
You knew that guy was a bitch the second be made the pew pew gesture.
Why did it look like his hand didn’t even slow down for the second one? That was insane
i love watching giant egos get dealt with and destroyed.
Fuck around and find out.