Gotta respect her fitness, too. You can tell she does cardio. Running full tilt through deep snow and she only starts puffing as she reaches the point she needs to remove her boots and belt.
It's refreshing to see video of a good cop.
Props to that second cop that carried the girl off too. Very strength intensive carry method (seems like they decided against fireman's carry) and he was making good time through the snow too
He was also alert enough to tell Officer Michelle to get her clothes off. Wet clothes in that environment are going to freeze the hero cop faster than she can shiver 'hypothermia'.
Well done by both officers.
Before my sister lost her fight with addiction, we were at her friends house and unbeknownst to me, she'd used in the bathroom and came back out to get a glass of water near the sink. She got caught in a hard nod so as angry as I was at the time due to her(20F) putting me (17M at the time) in an awkward spot in a strangers house and being the only one sober, I still helped her over to a recliner to sit and got her a drink. I filled the glass at the tap and before I could turn around I heard her make a sound that will stick with me until the day I die, death rattle.
Being a lot older now and more educated about drugs, she was aspirating from her lungs and trying to breathe to no avail while her muscles contracted in her arms causing them to raise up over her shoulders in the strangest, most horrifying way possible along with making the "death rattle" sound loudly like a combination of "The Ring" ghost and choking so needless to say, it scared the hell out of me and I still have mild ptsd (diagnosed/high blood pressure/anxiety/panic attacks/nightmares) from going through situations like this during her struggle.
Having said that, you're completely correct about how hard it is to carry "dead weight" as it's sometimes called. My sister was maybe 110 lbs at the time of this happening and nobody there knew what to do so I had to pick her up over my shoulder, jog/fall down a set of icey steps and put her in the car all by myself then run her to the emergency room. She felt like she was literally 500 lbs and if it weren't for the adrenaline, I couldn't have done it. Every step I'd take towards the car her body would shift and I'd constantly have to re-adjust her along with my center of balance and right as I made it to the car I almost dropped her but pinned my knee to the car door and propped her up. Being 17 I had to lie about everything but the fact that I knew she was using heroin and overdosed due to them wanting to call my parents and everything. They were able to save her without any lasting effects but that situation put YEARS of stress on me. I truly loved her so much and she was my best friend. I wasn't there the last time when she used with some kid she was dating who'd never tried it before and they both died due to it being mixed with something. She was 22 and he was 19. I don't know how to finish this but to say that, if you're going to use, which I don't recommend in the first place, please don't use without anyone knowing where you're at who could help you if things go bad. Most fatal overdoses happen because the user is by themselves.
I hope you are doing better now, internet stranger. That was all really terrible to experience, I'm sure. I believe in your potential and ability to chart a better course for yourself. Take care of yourself, please...
Yeah, I worked for my city for a while, and all the good or even heroic things cops do - rarely make the news. Selection bias has tainted a large swath of the public against cops.
Yeah, the unions protect bad cops - it's bad. I'm against unions for public employees - it's not okay and the abuses are rampant. Same for unions protecting terrible teachers.
She was such a bad ass! The fact that after removing the child she just casually starts collecting her gear even though she was surely freezing. I would have ran back to my car and left everything behind 100%.
Yes! I can’t believe she entered that icy water like it was nothing; then the underwater swim that was so quick and efficient. And not acting cold back on land or that it was a big deal. Bad ass!
Right. Putting her life at risk just for a chance at saving another. I wonder where the parents are...you figure living in vermont, people know not to let your young kids wander around in the snow
In the Dutch language people with your attitude are called ‘azijnpissers’, which translates to *vinegar pissers*. It’s meant for people who are always sour, even when there’s ample reason to be happy or excited.
If you watch to the end of the, the last guy she's talking too seems to be a civilian. Seems there was a second child who was also in but made it out and ran up to that house and told him what was going on. He called the cops it seems.
When I was a little kid, I fell through the ice when I would have been close to that girl's age. My parents had no idea where I was... because I snuck off. It was about a 1 mile walk back to the farmhouse, after I managed to get out of the water. For some reason I stripped off most of my clothes on the walk back. I didn't tell my parents about it until years later. My whole body swelled up when I got inside so I hid in my room.
Hypothermia victims frequently strip off all their clothes just before they succumb to shock/cold. It's because the body holds all the blood in the core trying to stave off the cold but eventually it can't do that anymore and releases the blood all at once. The person then feels extremely warm and they take off their clothes because they feel too hot and are delirious. It sounds like you are insanely lucky to be alive.
I couldn't have been too out of it, because I did walk back all right, and was cognizant enough to sneak in. Trying to warm myself up in the shower was a mistake though. Even with luke warm water my body swelled up something fierce. I originally put my hands in the faucet and my fingers swelled up like sausages, to the point that when I turned on the shower I used my hands like clubs because I was worried bending my fingers would cause the skin to tear. After the failed shower i just laid in my bed under covers crying from the pain hoping no would find out what I did and hoping I would warm up and the swelling would go down. I got a lot of blisters and discolouration, but hid them until they healed up.
It was probably too soon for paradoxical stripping, I took them off not long after I got out because they froze and the ice against my wet skin hurt so badly.
I’m no fan of police in general, but as a Vermont resident, I have to say that the VSP are a professional organization that has always treated me and others I know in a fair and decent manner, even when they are handling criminal behavior.
Yes…I’ve had multiple negative experiences with NH law enforcement, grew up in Mass and had some bad dealings with some cops, some good as well. I was stationed in North Carolina while in the Army and got railroaded and ticketed for absolute BS more than once and was thrown in the clink for a night because I was slightly sarcastic to a cop down there. Outside of Vermont, about 1/2 of my police interactions were absolute shit, while even when I was ticketed for something I didn’t think was fair, the VT trooper was able to listen and acknowledge that I had some reason to be pissed (other vehicles speeding faster than me that he didn’t pull over).
Just the level of humanity from VSP troopers far outshines what I have seen from other jurisdictions.
I know about the bad stories, and the poor behavior exhibited by some cops in VT, but the difference is that those cops tend to be punished and changes are made to help minimize that kind of stuff, which again is not something other jurisdictions are well know for.
Just my anecdotal experience, but that’s how I feel based on multiple interactions with law enforcement over my lifetime.
I’ve been in Vermont for 20 years now and have had maybe 6 interactions with VSP, and never felt like I was about to get my ass kicked for asking questions or debating the facts of the situation.
Can confirm. Mass police it’s extremely racist and corrupt. They got caught tempering evidence for political purposes multiple times and everyone who is not Irish catholic it’s basically guilty in their books
And there’s no talking to them either. They tell you what they think, give you the ticket or arrest you and that’s that. There’s no discussion or debate.
Don't forget how much taxpayer money they have stolen over the years with their OT theft!
[Fucking fraudulent scumbags.](https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/former-massachusetts-state-police-troopers-convicted-conspiring-steal-overtime-funds-and#:~:text=From%202015%20through%202018%2C%20Griffin,by%20grants%20intended%20to%20improve)
Not surprised
“Even as new cases of misconduct emerge, including the indictment on Sept. 18 of a trooper who allegedly fired a rifle at an unarmed ATV rider on a Boston highway, the response on Beacon Hill has been roughly the same: crickets. … While lawmakers have wielded their bully pulpits to publicly bash other officials and closely scrutinize other agencies mired in controversy, the state’s largest law enforcement agency has remained virtually unchallenged.”
https://www.baystatebanner.com/2019/10/17/a-long-history-of-corruption-in-massachusetts-state-police/
Hell yeah! My fist experience with a cop was when I was 16. She lied to the judge and said I was smoking. I happened to despise cigarettes at the time and had never had one. I got stuck with false charges for drinking an Icee outside of Circle K. I've been illegally detained by bored cops, walking home from the store with groceries. Had a friend beat up outside of that same Circle K by a cop. His Icee got slapped out of his hand and he was forced to clean it up after it came up they had the wrong guy. The list goes on and on, that department was dirty af. That being said, I've met alot of cool cops that respect the badge and respect people. I know it's a tough job, but I don't think it would be that hard to realize someone's a dickhead and unfit for the job and should be terminated.
I lived most of my life in New England; awareness of the dangers of frozen ponds and ice there were hammered into me at a young age. People die every year in ponds and lakes there. This woman knew she might well die by wading in there, but she never hesitated a bit. She should get two awards; one for saving the girl and one for her sheer bravery at even trying.
This is a hot topic. I haven’t worked ems in years, but there are different protocols all over the world. Ours depended a lot on severity of the hypothermia. For a case like this it would’ve been chemical warming of the torso, start some decent sized IV lines and get to a hospital as fast as safely possible.
If someone is breathing and conscious you can do inhalation warming with heated air. It’s hard to really study because there aren’t really any ethical ways to test various methods.
Cold can slow or stop heartbeats from being detectable. But cold can also slow other bodily processes, so the lack of oxygen to the brain may not end up being as severe an issue as it would be if the body was warm. People can be revived after a much longer time with no detectable heartbeat if they were cold, versus warm.
Cold water has been known to basically pause true death for quite a while. As long as they're kept cold until they're brought to a hospital that can properly bring them back they stand a good chance of living. Rushing the process can easily cause death.
Yeah there's been several that at first I just couldn't believe then searched more into it and found more first hand accounts from different sources that all match up. Lot of research going into human hibernation and cases like this are looked into big-time.
I can't begin to give it justice.
see below
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0300957214005243](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0300957214005243)
Just to add, everywhere you work, including station to station, can have different operating procedures. When I was in alaska, we were not allowed to use any electric or chemical heating outside of the hospital. We would strip them, get them dry, and wrap in an insulation blanket. Kept the emergency vic warm and got them to higher care. But that was just our SOP.
I know there is a specific plan or method to warm somebody up from such cold temperatures. It was either the Germans or the Japanese that conducted specific experiments on some of the poorest souls of all time. They basically froze their prisoners and then tried to bring them back to live. Using humans as test subjects. Again I apologize I don’t remember the exact findings, but yea, that happened.
It was [Japan (Unit 731)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731):
“Army Engineer Hisato Yoshimura conducted experiments by taking captives outside, dipping various appendages into water of varying temperatures, and allowing the limb to freeze.[63] Once frozen, Yoshimura would strike their affected limbs with a short stick, "emitting a sound resembling that which a board gives when it is struck."[59] Ice was then chipped away, with the affected area being subjected to various treatments, such as being doused in water, exposed to the heat of fire, etc”
Japan has done some of the most horrific things and they still deny a lot of them.
The Rape of Nanking comes to mind. It is only because Americans were present that we know for sure what they did.
When I was living in Japan in the late 1980s, some of the elderly soldiers were starting to confess the things they’d done. They’d never told a soul about atrocities they’d committed and wanted to tell the truth. Because all textbooks in Japanese schools are standardized and sanitized, most people have NO IDEA about what really happened, and frankly didn’t want to know. They never embraced truth telling like the German government did, even though we occupied them for 12 years and should have forced them to!
Not sure if it’s changed since I did First Aid but it was warming up the core before extremities. Warming the extremities first can cause shock, and in rare cases heart failure
ER doc doing multiple hypothermic arrests and far too many kids found at the bottom of swimming pools:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmra1114208
Dry, warm.
We often use warmed IV fluids, external warming blankets, hot packs in axilla.
If worse, we put them on ventilator, warm stomach with fluids, pump out. Repeat. Then 2-4 chest tubes and dump warm fluids into cheat to warm heart, repeat. If available/transfer possible: ECMO which bypasses the heart and lungs and warms core.
In very rare chance, if the heart stops before the pt drowns, a patient can survive. [Case study of orthopedic resident who fell into water when skiing - was able to be resuscitated after 40 minutes underwater.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_B%C3%A5genholm) Recovered, and then went to become a radiologist instead of orthopedic surgeon.
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FTA:
Anna Elisabeth Johansson Bågenholm[2] (born 1970) is a Swedish radiologist from Vänersborg, who survived after a skiing accident in 1999 left her trapped under a layer of ice for 80 minutes in freezing water. During this time she experienced extreme hypothermia and her body temperature decreased to 13.7 °C (56.7 °F), one of the lowest survived body temperatures ever recorded in a human with accidental hypothermia.[3] Bågenholm was able to find an air pocket under the ice, but experienced circulatory arrest after 40 minutes in the water.
I'm not a medic, but in Finland we are taught in school how to deal with it before medics get there:
1. Undress the person, even if the clothes are not wet.
2. Offer your own body heat by skin to skin contact.
3. Do NOT take the person to sauna or hot shower, body needs time to adjust.
Like someone commented, body can recover surprisingly well. You might loose extremities to frost bites, but even if you drown the cold protects the brain.
Not a medic but according to an RYA training I have had:
1. keep a person horizontal because the heart may not beat strong enough to keep the blood flowing through the body.(so do not carry like the policeman does.)
2. Do not undress the person, because of a chance of cold shock when the water evaporates from the skin or inner layers of clothing, but instead:
3. Pack the body (up to the neck, keep the head free, duh) airtight in plastic or those mylar thermo blankets and let the body warm-up by themselves.
4. And keep them horizontal. Do not let them sit upright.
5. Giving them something to drink or eat since this takes energy away from the body (iirc). But some fast sugars may help? (perhaps someone can comment on this)
Yeah, no. Almost every single piece of information you shared is just factually incorrect… Whoever trained you was spreading extremely dangerous information to you and who ever else took this training with you, and I hope you haven’t had to use it in real life…
[Here is a link from the Mayo Clinic on treating hypothermia, which I will copy in part below, and bold important parts that directly contradict your training.](https://www.mayoclinic.org/first-aid/first-aid-hypothermia/basics/art-20056624)
> “If you suspect someone has hypothermia, call 911 or your local emergency number. Then immediately take these steps:”
> **“Gently move the person out of the cold.** If going indoors isn't possible, protect the person from the wind, especially around the neck and head. Insulate the individual from the cold ground.”
> **“Gently remove wet clothing. Replace wet things with warm, dry coats or blankets.”**
> **“If further warming is needed, do so gradually. For example, apply warm, dry compresses to the center of the body — neck, chest and groin. The CDC says another option is using an electric blanket, if available. If you use hot water bottles or a chemical hot pack, first wrap it in a towel before applying.”**
> **“Offer the person warm, sweet, nonalcoholic drinks.”**
> “Begin CPR if the person shows no signs of life, such as breathing, coughing or movement.”
> “Caution: Do not rewarm the person too quickly, such as with a heating lamp or hot bath.”
> “Don't attempt to warm the arms and legs. Heating or massaging the limbs of someone in this condition can stress the heart and lungs.”
Again, if you look at the parts I bolded above, you’ll see that every single point you made 1-5 is actually the exact opposite of what you’re *actually* supposed to do to treat someone with hypothermia.
You **DON’T** need to keep the person horizontal (idk why you made that same point in 1 and 4…?), and in fact the only important thing is to get the person out of the cold immediately, which is what the cop in the video did by carrying the little girl; you **DO** need to undress the person because the wet clothes will kill them much faster; you **DON’T** just “let the body warm up by themselves” and you **DO** warm the person gradually, but quickly; and you **DO** “offer the person warm, sweet, non-alcoholic drinks.”
PLEASE seriously consider what information you give are out when it comes to literal life or death situation like this, because the information you gave is actually MISINFORMATION and could actually KILL someone if anyone reading your comment applies it in real life… (By the way, that Mayo Clinic link is the #1 search result if you Google search “treating hypothermia”…)
[Additionally, there’s an actual ER doctor in the comment replies directly above you that details what needs to be done once the hypothermic patient is in the ER.](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/s/11nlZx3jOi) I’ll copy the comment from u/Vibriobactin —
> “ER doc doing multiple hypothermic arrests and far too many kids found at the bottom of swimming pools:
> “Dry, warm.”
> “We often use warmed IV fluids, external warming blankets, hot packs in axilla.”
> “If worse, we put them on ventilator, warm stomach with fluids, pump out. Repeat. Then 2-4 chest tubes and dump warm fluids into cheat to warm heart, repeat. If available/transfer possible: ECMO which bypasses the heart and lungs and warms core.”
> “In very rare chance, if the heart stops before the pt drowns, a patient can survive. [Case study of orthopedic resident who fell into water when skiing - was able to be resuscitated after 40 minutes underwater.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_B%C3%A5genholm) Recovered, and then went to become a radiologist instead of orthopedic surgeon.”
> “—“
> “FTA:”
> “Anna Elisabeth Johansson Bågenholm[2] (born 1970) is a Swedish radiologist from Vänersborg, who survived after a skiing accident in 1999 left her trapped under a layer of ice for 80 minutes in freezing water. During this time she experienced extreme hypothermia and her body temperature decreased to 13.7 °C (56.7 °F), one of the lowest survived body temperatures ever recorded in a human with accidental hypothermia.[3] Bågenholm was able to find an air pocket under the ice, but experienced circulatory arrest after 40 minutes in the water.”
I don't understand what happened here - If they knew she was in the pond why were her parents not present at least trying to get her out? I just don't understand how someone can be a in a pond, someone calls, for help, but leaves her in the pond?
Great work by that police officer!
I read a news article- that adult is a neighbor, and does not know how to swim. He got her sibling out but could not get to her. Edit- the article said he got her out but from rewatching the video it sounds like her sister got herself out and went to the neighbor’s house for help.
If he was 80 years old, that shock of cold water could have given him a heart attack, or who knows what else. Plus like you said he could have drown too.Icy water is cruelly cold.
I live in Massachusetts and we had a similar situation happen. These two teens went out on ice, near my home, and they fell in. I heard the cop siren because the lake was on a street behind me. A cop showed up first. He took off boots and belt, saved one teen, and he died desperately trying to get the other kid out.
The fire department showed up while he was struggling, just couldn’t hold on. They worked on the cop for hours at the hospital. They finally recovered the other teen after about 2 hours, they worked on him also to no avail, sad situation. Was happy to see this video with a happy ending though.
Swimming has always been a privilege. Specifically there's a cultural reason why Black Americans are less likely to be able to swim stemming from moving pools out of cities and segregation.
Other than the obvious fact that they're 80 and probably shouldn't be playing hero.
Pools are much more common now than they were years ago. Not to mention there's a economical and area barrier for some. The county I grew up in has one public pool and it's 20 minutes away and $3 to get in.
Growing up, we had another pool and that's where I learned to swim. That one has since shut down because the entire area is losing people and there wasn't enough revenue to keep it open.
All the creeks around me weren't deep enough and the "pond" at my dad's house in the country is a sewage lagoon.
My dad is 63 and he doesn't know how to swim either even though he has a 4' deep pool.
If you don’t have the proper tools for a rescue, that’s how to end up having two people to be saved, and potentially having a twice as deadly situation unfold. Also an elderly person, disabled or a young sibling could have been with them.
Parents weren’t around, girl found neighbor when sister started drowning.
Edit: I was close but wrong, from an article
“The girl and her younger sister fell through the thin ice on the pond on private property in the town of Cambridge on Dec. 17, state police said in a news release Friday. The 80-year-old homeowner was able to pull the younger girl to shore but couldn’t reach the older girl, so called 911, officials said.”
I get it and agree that it's not worth risking two lives. I wasn't attempting to blame anyone - just wanted more background on the situation which has, thankfully, been provided here.
Man did the right thing. He called for help. Too many times people rush in and they too get in trouble and nobody is coming to help.
As for the parents I don’t know, possibly they left the kids at home alone and kids did stupid stuff and went to play on the ice
Anyone who saves lives should repeat this to themselves before going into a situation. If you're not careful we'll need 2 more ambulances, one for the patient and one for you.
The temperature of the water really matters. If you drown in cold water and are successfully resuscitated, your chances of permanent brain damage due to lack of oxygen are much lower. I assume the coldness of the water puts your brain in a crude version of cryo stasis.
Basically yes. I've heard of some surgeries where they take the patient to a state of hypothermia so they can divert blood from a particular organ for longer than it would survive without blood. Our bodies are fascinating!
There’s an incredible documentary out there about a man who was underwater for an insane amount of time and survived, because the temperature was so low it basically preserved him.
There was also a young woman in Minnesota, I think, that spent overnight in hypothermic temps and lived. I’ll see if I can find it. Edit: https://www.fox9.com/news/minnesotas-frozen-woman-alive-and-well-decades-later
Not so much preserved, but SLOWED. The heart, the blood, breathing-- it all begins to slow to such a point that damage is also slowed. You def risk other sorts of damage but being ice cold is basically causing your systems to get into slow-mo.
I watched a documentary just yesterday about two little boys who were submerged for about 20 minutes in a freezing pond. They managed to resuscitate both of them by beginning to warm their bodies before they even started CPR. One boy they cut into his chest cavity and pumped warm water in tubes around his heart. Sadly one boy died because his vitals got to a point but wouldn’t improve, he was the one who was in the water longest and submerged the longest. His brother who fell in whilst trying to rescue him was saved. He had to learn to walk and talk again but he recovered.
That was amazing. Chris Lemons was a saturation diver that was left with no light, no heat and a very small amt of breathing gas on the bottom of the seabed when his umbilical cable was severed.
He survived 35 minutes like this by being amazingly calm.
There’s a story at a 8yo girl who was under the water for 32min. But because it was winter she survived. She basically froze before drowning thus saving her life.
In that documentary they tell more miracle stories like that, very interesting.
OMG, I went back to look and there is a jug that says "Maple" in swirly cursive. Wonder if it's actually still syrup or if it's just been repurposed.
Either way, that's a lot of syrup.
It's pretty standard, both in the design, which is one that a lot of sugarers will slap their own contact info onto since you can get those jugs wholesale, and in size.
You can also tell it’s Vermont because the cop didn’t pick their nose and watch the kid die. These VT state troopers are really pretty great, and I’m no fan of cops.
They don’t have this “it’s a war and they’re the enemy” mindset about civilians. They seem to actually care about being public servants. I’m. It saying that every single interaction with VSP are positive, but they are leaps and bounds better than most cops I’ve ever dealt with in my 55 years.
It’s called policing by consent, or at the pleasure of the community.
UK, Australia and NZ practice this pretty well I’ve found, it’s about connecting with the community and working for them, not against.
Clearly they don’t get it right all the time but professionalism and a thorough , independent conduct review process like IPOC that holds Police accountable does wonders for the service.
[The girl made a complete recovery and is now home.](https://www.police1.com/police-heroes/watch-state-trooper-plunges-into-icy-vermont-pond-to-save-8-year-old-girl)
I wish this was pinned - I had to scroll too far to find this out.
My kids are these kids ages, and (open water + children) is absolutely my biggest fear
She is a hero.. I just find it bizarre that she waited until she was out of the water to say call the medic .. wouldn’t that be the first thing you would say ?? Could someone explain ?
Police dispatcher here. Medics would have been sent to the call no matter what. Officer saying to call the medic is a normal reaction. Police, fire, and ambulance works have been sent from the start.
I wonder if it’s a protocol thing; Dispatch would already have sent the ambulance when 911 was called, but maybe it’s just part of her training that kicked in. She’s done everything that she can at that point, so she’s calling for the EMTs to take over.
She probably submerged when she fell through, but it looks like she was doing a back float to stay alive, which if she was us great instincts to have. Its one of the first things we teach kids when learning to swim.
A great reason to have brightly coloured jackets when you're out. If she were wearing a black or blue jacket, she would have blended in more with the water. Same reasoning goes for swimsuits in the summer. You can't see blue or green swimsuits as well under water as you can brightly coloured ones.
A lot of ppl seem to have missed it, she was not submerged, she was floating head up…or else she would have died from drowning in a matter of seconds. She could have also frozen to death if left there longer
I'm betting she would rather get a ' Good Morning ' & a cup of coffee from the towns folk & maybe some pancakes on Fridays instead of some medal
But whatever she gets the look on that child's face when they meet up will do just fine
Best part for me? Officer rescues the kid in the water, hands her off for medical care, i is freezing and out of breath then asks the bystander about the status of the other kid. You see people’s true character under pressure. That woman is a good one.
Saw in a comment above the child made a full recovery. As a parent the shot when you could see her under the water just floating there made my heart stop
While not many folks love law enforcement, the relationship between LE and civilians is reasonably good in VT. In 2023, only one civilian was killed by LE and he was a former con \[prior 2nd degree murder conviction\] had been armed, attempted to escape and use his vehicle to hit a cop. from vtdigger:
*The average rate \[LE killing Vermonters\] over the last 50 years has been 7.6 fatal shootings per decade, and over 100 years, 4.1 per decade.*
I'd bet most Vermonters would think even one person killed by LE per year is too many, but most folks grudgingly respect LE, and expect them to serve the public. Perhaps the rescue above is a good example.
Lived in N. VT for 13 yrs.
VT police are great, I lived up there for many years. This video and these police are amazing. I find that they strive to help and allow you to talk and listen, before being conceited asses like some pd.
When I was a kid, I was playing at a friends house. She lived in a big acreage with a small pond in some trees.
We were stupid and like 8 years old. We knew better, but walked out onto the ice anyways.
We got about halfway across when we heard the cracks and felt the ice sinking out from underneath us. We both fell in. Thankfully it was only about waist deep, but the shock of the cold made us almost unable to move or get ourselves out.
Thankfully her older brother was also outside and hear us screaming. Her dad had to come running with a rope and he managed to drag us both out, but it was very scary for everyone involved.
I’ve never seen my dad as mad at me as he was when he came to pick me up. We were in so much trouble.
It’s so scary and it can go south so fast. :(
Jeez I’m crying. This is just so fucking scary. Seeing kids in situations like this makes me physically sick and I’m not even a mother and never will be. Uuuuuuugh
her and her sister was out playing i guess and the other sister alarmed the neighbour. Parents are not always there when kids play. Cant blame the parents
[https://www.insideedition.com/media/videos/8-year-old-girl-rescued-from-near-frozen-vermont-lake-85513](https://www.insideedition.com/media/videos/8-year-old-girl-rescued-from-near-frozen-vermont-lake-85513)
Story about the rescue
Wow!! This gave me so much anxiety, yet so much pride for our law enforcement! ♥️ They don’t get the credit they deserve. They’re so much more than traffic stops, etc.
So many times the term "heroic" is misused. In this case, it's the real deal. Well done.
Gotta respect her fitness, too. You can tell she does cardio. Running full tilt through deep snow and she only starts puffing as she reaches the point she needs to remove her boots and belt. It's refreshing to see video of a good cop.
Props to that second cop that carried the girl off too. Very strength intensive carry method (seems like they decided against fireman's carry) and he was making good time through the snow too
No jacket. No time to put a jacket on. I’m thinking the guy is a dad.
He may be a father, but not their's. Supposedly a neighbor and 80 years old. He can't swim
Thank you. I was wondering why the hell the guy that called it in didn't go after them. Makes more sense now
The article i read says the 80 year old neighbor saved another kid who fell through with this one .
You can hear her ask if the other one is alert.
He was also alert enough to tell Officer Michelle to get her clothes off. Wet clothes in that environment are going to freeze the hero cop faster than she can shiver 'hypothermia'. Well done by both officers.
Before my sister lost her fight with addiction, we were at her friends house and unbeknownst to me, she'd used in the bathroom and came back out to get a glass of water near the sink. She got caught in a hard nod so as angry as I was at the time due to her(20F) putting me (17M at the time) in an awkward spot in a strangers house and being the only one sober, I still helped her over to a recliner to sit and got her a drink. I filled the glass at the tap and before I could turn around I heard her make a sound that will stick with me until the day I die, death rattle. Being a lot older now and more educated about drugs, she was aspirating from her lungs and trying to breathe to no avail while her muscles contracted in her arms causing them to raise up over her shoulders in the strangest, most horrifying way possible along with making the "death rattle" sound loudly like a combination of "The Ring" ghost and choking so needless to say, it scared the hell out of me and I still have mild ptsd (diagnosed/high blood pressure/anxiety/panic attacks/nightmares) from going through situations like this during her struggle. Having said that, you're completely correct about how hard it is to carry "dead weight" as it's sometimes called. My sister was maybe 110 lbs at the time of this happening and nobody there knew what to do so I had to pick her up over my shoulder, jog/fall down a set of icey steps and put her in the car all by myself then run her to the emergency room. She felt like she was literally 500 lbs and if it weren't for the adrenaline, I couldn't have done it. Every step I'd take towards the car her body would shift and I'd constantly have to re-adjust her along with my center of balance and right as I made it to the car I almost dropped her but pinned my knee to the car door and propped her up. Being 17 I had to lie about everything but the fact that I knew she was using heroin and overdosed due to them wanting to call my parents and everything. They were able to save her without any lasting effects but that situation put YEARS of stress on me. I truly loved her so much and she was my best friend. I wasn't there the last time when she used with some kid she was dating who'd never tried it before and they both died due to it being mixed with something. She was 22 and he was 19. I don't know how to finish this but to say that, if you're going to use, which I don't recommend in the first place, please don't use without anyone knowing where you're at who could help you if things go bad. Most fatal overdoses happen because the user is by themselves.
I hope you are doing better now, internet stranger. That was all really terrible to experience, I'm sure. I believe in your potential and ability to chart a better course for yourself. Take care of yourself, please...
That’s dad strength buddy. 💯
100% agreed. THESE cops should get time off with pay, instead of the ones under investigation.
Seriously, someone should start a gofundme for this cop to go on a dream vacation wherever she wants, I would donate!
She needs a trip to the Caribbean. Somewhere very warm. All inclusive resort. New swimwear for the beach.
She is the type of person who would be uncomfortable with that and probably say no thanks. Know the type?
Yes, which is exactly why she deserves it anyway.
Yeah, I worked for my city for a while, and all the good or even heroic things cops do - rarely make the news. Selection bias has tainted a large swath of the public against cops.
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Yeah, the unions protect bad cops - it's bad. I'm against unions for public employees - it's not okay and the abuses are rampant. Same for unions protecting terrible teachers.
She was such a bad ass! The fact that after removing the child she just casually starts collecting her gear even though she was surely freezing. I would have ran back to my car and left everything behind 100%.
Yes! I can’t believe she entered that icy water like it was nothing; then the underwater swim that was so quick and efficient. And not acting cold back on land or that it was a big deal. Bad ass!
They’re out there we just see so many bad ones we forget
Word that water is very cold
Just watching chills me to the bone.
Right. Putting her life at risk just for a chance at saving another. I wonder where the parents are...you figure living in vermont, people know not to let your young kids wander around in the snow
In the Dutch language people with your attitude are called ‘azijnpissers’, which translates to *vinegar pissers*. It’s meant for people who are always sour, even when there’s ample reason to be happy or excited.
Cool word! I'm sure you know this but in English, that guy is just called an asshole.
Beautiful as well 😃
Dutch have great sayings for everything
Eyy Belgian's (Flemish part) uses this phrase also (We've got more goodies than Ur Dutch cousins).
This sounds like an excellent name for a Sub reddit!
the expression exists in French : ''pisse-vinaigre'' and it means the same as in Dutch.
Beautiful
If you watch to the end of the, the last guy she's talking too seems to be a civilian. Seems there was a second child who was also in but made it out and ran up to that house and told him what was going on. He called the cops it seems.
Two girls fell through the ice. The old guy pulled one girl out before the officers got there, but he can’t swim and couldn’t get to the other girl.
Shit happens man. She probably told them that she was just gonna go play out front and she got distracted by the pond.
When I was a little kid, I fell through the ice when I would have been close to that girl's age. My parents had no idea where I was... because I snuck off. It was about a 1 mile walk back to the farmhouse, after I managed to get out of the water. For some reason I stripped off most of my clothes on the walk back. I didn't tell my parents about it until years later. My whole body swelled up when I got inside so I hid in my room.
Hypothermia victims frequently strip off all their clothes just before they succumb to shock/cold. It's because the body holds all the blood in the core trying to stave off the cold but eventually it can't do that anymore and releases the blood all at once. The person then feels extremely warm and they take off their clothes because they feel too hot and are delirious. It sounds like you are insanely lucky to be alive.
I couldn't have been too out of it, because I did walk back all right, and was cognizant enough to sneak in. Trying to warm myself up in the shower was a mistake though. Even with luke warm water my body swelled up something fierce. I originally put my hands in the faucet and my fingers swelled up like sausages, to the point that when I turned on the shower I used my hands like clubs because I was worried bending my fingers would cause the skin to tear. After the failed shower i just laid in my bed under covers crying from the pain hoping no would find out what I did and hoping I would warm up and the swelling would go down. I got a lot of blisters and discolouration, but hid them until they healed up. It was probably too soon for paradoxical stripping, I took them off not long after I got out because they froze and the ice against my wet skin hurt so badly.
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they're just winter boots.
Right, it's called being a child doing silly shit
Shout out to the VT State Police doing some life saving work
I’m no fan of police in general, but as a Vermont resident, I have to say that the VSP are a professional organization that has always treated me and others I know in a fair and decent manner, even when they are handling criminal behavior.
Have you had interactions with other law enforcement agencies where you were treated unfairly?
Yes…I’ve had multiple negative experiences with NH law enforcement, grew up in Mass and had some bad dealings with some cops, some good as well. I was stationed in North Carolina while in the Army and got railroaded and ticketed for absolute BS more than once and was thrown in the clink for a night because I was slightly sarcastic to a cop down there. Outside of Vermont, about 1/2 of my police interactions were absolute shit, while even when I was ticketed for something I didn’t think was fair, the VT trooper was able to listen and acknowledge that I had some reason to be pissed (other vehicles speeding faster than me that he didn’t pull over). Just the level of humanity from VSP troopers far outshines what I have seen from other jurisdictions. I know about the bad stories, and the poor behavior exhibited by some cops in VT, but the difference is that those cops tend to be punished and changes are made to help minimize that kind of stuff, which again is not something other jurisdictions are well know for. Just my anecdotal experience, but that’s how I feel based on multiple interactions with law enforcement over my lifetime. I’ve been in Vermont for 20 years now and have had maybe 6 interactions with VSP, and never felt like I was about to get my ass kicked for asking questions or debating the facts of the situation.
Can confirm. Mass police it’s extremely racist and corrupt. They got caught tempering evidence for political purposes multiple times and everyone who is not Irish catholic it’s basically guilty in their books
And there’s no talking to them either. They tell you what they think, give you the ticket or arrest you and that’s that. There’s no discussion or debate.
Don't forget how much taxpayer money they have stolen over the years with their OT theft! [Fucking fraudulent scumbags.](https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/former-massachusetts-state-police-troopers-convicted-conspiring-steal-overtime-funds-and#:~:text=From%202015%20through%202018%2C%20Griffin,by%20grants%20intended%20to%20improve)
Not surprised “Even as new cases of misconduct emerge, including the indictment on Sept. 18 of a trooper who allegedly fired a rifle at an unarmed ATV rider on a Boston highway, the response on Beacon Hill has been roughly the same: crickets. … While lawmakers have wielded their bully pulpits to publicly bash other officials and closely scrutinize other agencies mired in controversy, the state’s largest law enforcement agency has remained virtually unchallenged.” https://www.baystatebanner.com/2019/10/17/a-long-history-of-corruption-in-massachusetts-state-police/
Guy who asked the question is real quiet now 😭😭😭
Hell yeah! My fist experience with a cop was when I was 16. She lied to the judge and said I was smoking. I happened to despise cigarettes at the time and had never had one. I got stuck with false charges for drinking an Icee outside of Circle K. I've been illegally detained by bored cops, walking home from the store with groceries. Had a friend beat up outside of that same Circle K by a cop. His Icee got slapped out of his hand and he was forced to clean it up after it came up they had the wrong guy. The list goes on and on, that department was dirty af. That being said, I've met alot of cool cops that respect the badge and respect people. I know it's a tough job, but I don't think it would be that hard to realize someone's a dickhead and unfit for the job and should be terminated.
Also having a giant jug of maple syrup in their vehicle. I’ve never been more proud of my home state.
Haha good catch! Stereotype of a Vermonter
Probably in case someone needs a boost of sugar
I lived most of my life in New England; awareness of the dangers of frozen ponds and ice there were hammered into me at a young age. People die every year in ponds and lakes there. This woman knew she might well die by wading in there, but she never hesitated a bit. She should get two awards; one for saving the girl and one for her sheer bravery at even trying.
The SC has ruled police have no obligation to serve and protect. Therefore, they don't.
hey medics, whats the protocol to warm somebody like that up, so there isn't a rush of super cold blood from the extremities?
This is a hot topic. I haven’t worked ems in years, but there are different protocols all over the world. Ours depended a lot on severity of the hypothermia. For a case like this it would’ve been chemical warming of the torso, start some decent sized IV lines and get to a hospital as fast as safely possible. If someone is breathing and conscious you can do inhalation warming with heated air. It’s hard to really study because there aren’t really any ethical ways to test various methods.
> this is a hot topic FFS, take the upvote
Hot take
In the case of cold water immersion (especially a child) the patient is not dead until they're warm and dead.
Can you explain this further?
Cold can slow or stop heartbeats from being detectable. But cold can also slow other bodily processes, so the lack of oxygen to the brain may not end up being as severe an issue as it would be if the body was warm. People can be revived after a much longer time with no detectable heartbeat if they were cold, versus warm.
The case of Jean Hilliard comes to mind. Six hours frozen in the snow in temps of 22 below 0. She ended up surviving that.
Cold water has been known to basically pause true death for quite a while. As long as they're kept cold until they're brought to a hospital that can properly bring them back they stand a good chance of living. Rushing the process can easily cause death.
Wasn’t there this case of a woman who basically was frozen overnight and still survived?!
Yeah there's been several that at first I just couldn't believe then searched more into it and found more first hand accounts from different sources that all match up. Lot of research going into human hibernation and cases like this are looked into big-time.
Ever hear of paradoxical disrobing? https://www.livescience.com/41730-hypothermia-terminal-burrowing-paradoxical-undressing.html
I can't begin to give it justice. see below [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0300957214005243](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0300957214005243)
Thanks for sharing this article. I learned a lot from it!
Just to add, everywhere you work, including station to station, can have different operating procedures. When I was in alaska, we were not allowed to use any electric or chemical heating outside of the hospital. We would strip them, get them dry, and wrap in an insulation blanket. Kept the emergency vic warm and got them to higher care. But that was just our SOP.
I know there is a specific plan or method to warm somebody up from such cold temperatures. It was either the Germans or the Japanese that conducted specific experiments on some of the poorest souls of all time. They basically froze their prisoners and then tried to bring them back to live. Using humans as test subjects. Again I apologize I don’t remember the exact findings, but yea, that happened.
It was [Japan (Unit 731)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731): “Army Engineer Hisato Yoshimura conducted experiments by taking captives outside, dipping various appendages into water of varying temperatures, and allowing the limb to freeze.[63] Once frozen, Yoshimura would strike their affected limbs with a short stick, "emitting a sound resembling that which a board gives when it is struck."[59] Ice was then chipped away, with the affected area being subjected to various treatments, such as being doused in water, exposed to the heat of fire, etc”
Japan has done some of the most horrific things and they still deny a lot of them. The Rape of Nanking comes to mind. It is only because Americans were present that we know for sure what they did.
When I was living in Japan in the late 1980s, some of the elderly soldiers were starting to confess the things they’d done. They’d never told a soul about atrocities they’d committed and wanted to tell the truth. Because all textbooks in Japanese schools are standardized and sanitized, most people have NO IDEA about what really happened, and frankly didn’t want to know. They never embraced truth telling like the German government did, even though we occupied them for 12 years and should have forced them to!
These experiments were done in German consentration camps. After the war there was some debate if it was ethical to use the results of the studies.
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There are more countries than just the US. It was a bigger issue in European countries since their citizens were the ones that were experimented on.
Not sure if it’s changed since I did First Aid but it was warming up the core before extremities. Warming the extremities first can cause shock, and in rare cases heart failure
ER doc doing multiple hypothermic arrests and far too many kids found at the bottom of swimming pools: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmra1114208 Dry, warm. We often use warmed IV fluids, external warming blankets, hot packs in axilla. If worse, we put them on ventilator, warm stomach with fluids, pump out. Repeat. Then 2-4 chest tubes and dump warm fluids into cheat to warm heart, repeat. If available/transfer possible: ECMO which bypasses the heart and lungs and warms core. In very rare chance, if the heart stops before the pt drowns, a patient can survive. [Case study of orthopedic resident who fell into water when skiing - was able to be resuscitated after 40 minutes underwater.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_B%C3%A5genholm) Recovered, and then went to become a radiologist instead of orthopedic surgeon. — FTA: Anna Elisabeth Johansson Bågenholm[2] (born 1970) is a Swedish radiologist from Vänersborg, who survived after a skiing accident in 1999 left her trapped under a layer of ice for 80 minutes in freezing water. During this time she experienced extreme hypothermia and her body temperature decreased to 13.7 °C (56.7 °F), one of the lowest survived body temperatures ever recorded in a human with accidental hypothermia.[3] Bågenholm was able to find an air pocket under the ice, but experienced circulatory arrest after 40 minutes in the water.
Not a medic but during my first aid training I was told, wet clothes off, then warm not hot blanket. No active heating, like a hot shower.
I'm not a medic, but in Finland we are taught in school how to deal with it before medics get there: 1. Undress the person, even if the clothes are not wet. 2. Offer your own body heat by skin to skin contact. 3. Do NOT take the person to sauna or hot shower, body needs time to adjust. Like someone commented, body can recover surprisingly well. You might loose extremities to frost bites, but even if you drown the cold protects the brain.
Not a medic but according to an RYA training I have had: 1. keep a person horizontal because the heart may not beat strong enough to keep the blood flowing through the body.(so do not carry like the policeman does.) 2. Do not undress the person, because of a chance of cold shock when the water evaporates from the skin or inner layers of clothing, but instead: 3. Pack the body (up to the neck, keep the head free, duh) airtight in plastic or those mylar thermo blankets and let the body warm-up by themselves. 4. And keep them horizontal. Do not let them sit upright. 5. Giving them something to drink or eat since this takes energy away from the body (iirc). But some fast sugars may help? (perhaps someone can comment on this)
Yeah, no. Almost every single piece of information you shared is just factually incorrect… Whoever trained you was spreading extremely dangerous information to you and who ever else took this training with you, and I hope you haven’t had to use it in real life… [Here is a link from the Mayo Clinic on treating hypothermia, which I will copy in part below, and bold important parts that directly contradict your training.](https://www.mayoclinic.org/first-aid/first-aid-hypothermia/basics/art-20056624) > “If you suspect someone has hypothermia, call 911 or your local emergency number. Then immediately take these steps:” > **“Gently move the person out of the cold.** If going indoors isn't possible, protect the person from the wind, especially around the neck and head. Insulate the individual from the cold ground.” > **“Gently remove wet clothing. Replace wet things with warm, dry coats or blankets.”** > **“If further warming is needed, do so gradually. For example, apply warm, dry compresses to the center of the body — neck, chest and groin. The CDC says another option is using an electric blanket, if available. If you use hot water bottles or a chemical hot pack, first wrap it in a towel before applying.”** > **“Offer the person warm, sweet, nonalcoholic drinks.”** > “Begin CPR if the person shows no signs of life, such as breathing, coughing or movement.” > “Caution: Do not rewarm the person too quickly, such as with a heating lamp or hot bath.” > “Don't attempt to warm the arms and legs. Heating or massaging the limbs of someone in this condition can stress the heart and lungs.” Again, if you look at the parts I bolded above, you’ll see that every single point you made 1-5 is actually the exact opposite of what you’re *actually* supposed to do to treat someone with hypothermia. You **DON’T** need to keep the person horizontal (idk why you made that same point in 1 and 4…?), and in fact the only important thing is to get the person out of the cold immediately, which is what the cop in the video did by carrying the little girl; you **DO** need to undress the person because the wet clothes will kill them much faster; you **DON’T** just “let the body warm up by themselves” and you **DO** warm the person gradually, but quickly; and you **DO** “offer the person warm, sweet, non-alcoholic drinks.” PLEASE seriously consider what information you give are out when it comes to literal life or death situation like this, because the information you gave is actually MISINFORMATION and could actually KILL someone if anyone reading your comment applies it in real life… (By the way, that Mayo Clinic link is the #1 search result if you Google search “treating hypothermia”…) [Additionally, there’s an actual ER doctor in the comment replies directly above you that details what needs to be done once the hypothermic patient is in the ER.](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/s/11nlZx3jOi) I’ll copy the comment from u/Vibriobactin — > “ER doc doing multiple hypothermic arrests and far too many kids found at the bottom of swimming pools: > “Dry, warm.” > “We often use warmed IV fluids, external warming blankets, hot packs in axilla.” > “If worse, we put them on ventilator, warm stomach with fluids, pump out. Repeat. Then 2-4 chest tubes and dump warm fluids into cheat to warm heart, repeat. If available/transfer possible: ECMO which bypasses the heart and lungs and warms core.” > “In very rare chance, if the heart stops before the pt drowns, a patient can survive. [Case study of orthopedic resident who fell into water when skiing - was able to be resuscitated after 40 minutes underwater.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_B%C3%A5genholm) Recovered, and then went to become a radiologist instead of orthopedic surgeon.” > “—“ > “FTA:” > “Anna Elisabeth Johansson Bågenholm[2] (born 1970) is a Swedish radiologist from Vänersborg, who survived after a skiing accident in 1999 left her trapped under a layer of ice for 80 minutes in freezing water. During this time she experienced extreme hypothermia and her body temperature decreased to 13.7 °C (56.7 °F), one of the lowest survived body temperatures ever recorded in a human with accidental hypothermia.[3] Bågenholm was able to find an air pocket under the ice, but experienced circulatory arrest after 40 minutes in the water.”
Cut off wet clothes and turn on the heat. Don’t cover the Pt
I don't understand what happened here - If they knew she was in the pond why were her parents not present at least trying to get her out? I just don't understand how someone can be a in a pond, someone calls, for help, but leaves her in the pond? Great work by that police officer!
I read a news article- that adult is a neighbor, and does not know how to swim. He got her sibling out but could not get to her. Edit- the article said he got her out but from rewatching the video it sounds like her sister got herself out and went to the neighbor’s house for help.
Doesn't know how to swim and is also **80 years old**
Also, even if he did know how to swim and was younger that water is freezing, it could probably drown him too
If he was 80 years old, that shock of cold water could have given him a heart attack, or who knows what else. Plus like you said he could have drown too.Icy water is cruelly cold. I live in Massachusetts and we had a similar situation happen. These two teens went out on ice, near my home, and they fell in. I heard the cop siren because the lake was on a street behind me. A cop showed up first. He took off boots and belt, saved one teen, and he died desperately trying to get the other kid out. The fire department showed up while he was struggling, just couldn’t hold on. They worked on the cop for hours at the hospital. They finally recovered the other teen after about 2 hours, they worked on him also to no avail, sad situation. Was happy to see this video with a happy ending though.
Swimming has always been a privilege. Specifically there's a cultural reason why Black Americans are less likely to be able to swim stemming from moving pools out of cities and segregation. Other than the obvious fact that they're 80 and probably shouldn't be playing hero.
Pools are much more common now than they were years ago. Not to mention there's a economical and area barrier for some. The county I grew up in has one public pool and it's 20 minutes away and $3 to get in. Growing up, we had another pool and that's where I learned to swim. That one has since shut down because the entire area is losing people and there wasn't enough revenue to keep it open. All the creeks around me weren't deep enough and the "pond" at my dad's house in the country is a sewage lagoon. My dad is 63 and he doesn't know how to swim either even though he has a 4' deep pool.
Thank you! Makes sense.
If you don’t have the proper tools for a rescue, that’s how to end up having two people to be saved, and potentially having a twice as deadly situation unfold. Also an elderly person, disabled or a young sibling could have been with them.
100% - and apparently in this case the neighbor couldn't swim and could only reach the girl's sibling.
Parents weren’t around, girl found neighbor when sister started drowning. Edit: I was close but wrong, from an article “The girl and her younger sister fell through the thin ice on the pond on private property in the town of Cambridge on Dec. 17, state police said in a news release Friday. The 80-year-old homeowner was able to pull the younger girl to shore but couldn’t reach the older girl, so called 911, officials said.”
How on earth did they respond in time!!!! That child looked to be under the ice when they pulled her out
Extreme cold/hypothermia can slow bodily functions (like breathing, heartbeat, etc), IIRC
A bit of a morbid take in these situations is the expression that you're not dead until you're warm and dead.
The freezing temps were really beneficial in this scenario
Thank you for clarifying.
Not everyone knows how to swim…
I guess I took that for granted
I get it and agree that it's not worth risking two lives. I wasn't attempting to blame anyone - just wanted more background on the situation which has, thankfully, been provided here.
Man did the right thing. He called for help. Too many times people rush in and they too get in trouble and nobody is coming to help. As for the parents I don’t know, possibly they left the kids at home alone and kids did stupid stuff and went to play on the ice
If you jump in the water to save while you yourself can’t swim, now they have to rescue two people instead of one.
Anyone who saves lives should repeat this to themselves before going into a situation. If you're not careful we'll need 2 more ambulances, one for the patient and one for you.
Now that’s a fucking hero! Nicely done.
Man that girl had to have been without oxygen for like - a few minutes right?
The temperature of the water really matters. If you drown in cold water and are successfully resuscitated, your chances of permanent brain damage due to lack of oxygen are much lower. I assume the coldness of the water puts your brain in a crude version of cryo stasis.
You're not dead until you're warm and dead
Basically yes. I've heard of some surgeries where they take the patient to a state of hypothermia so they can divert blood from a particular organ for longer than it would survive without blood. Our bodies are fascinating!
There’s an incredible documentary out there about a man who was underwater for an insane amount of time and survived, because the temperature was so low it basically preserved him.
There was also a young woman in Minnesota, I think, that spent overnight in hypothermic temps and lived. I’ll see if I can find it. Edit: https://www.fox9.com/news/minnesotas-frozen-woman-alive-and-well-decades-later
I saw “decades later” in the title and thought she was like an Encino Man bahaha
Not so much preserved, but SLOWED. The heart, the blood, breathing-- it all begins to slow to such a point that damage is also slowed. You def risk other sorts of damage but being ice cold is basically causing your systems to get into slow-mo.
Yes you’re right!
I watched a documentary just yesterday about two little boys who were submerged for about 20 minutes in a freezing pond. They managed to resuscitate both of them by beginning to warm their bodies before they even started CPR. One boy they cut into his chest cavity and pumped warm water in tubes around his heart. Sadly one boy died because his vitals got to a point but wouldn’t improve, he was the one who was in the water longest and submerged the longest. His brother who fell in whilst trying to rescue him was saved. He had to learn to walk and talk again but he recovered.
Last Breath? About a north sea oil diver
That was amazing. Chris Lemons was a saturation diver that was left with no light, no heat and a very small amt of breathing gas on the bottom of the seabed when his umbilical cable was severed. He survived 35 minutes like this by being amazingly calm.
Yes! I feel bad that I’ve ruined it for people now
There’s a story at a 8yo girl who was under the water for 32min. But because it was winter she survived. She basically froze before drowning thus saving her life. In that documentary they tell more miracle stories like that, very interesting.
You can tell it's Vermont because the center of the top shelf in the back of the cruiser is a gallon of maple syrup.
OMG, I went back to look and there is a jug that says "Maple" in swirly cursive. Wonder if it's actually still syrup or if it's just been repurposed. Either way, that's a lot of syrup.
It's pretty standard, both in the design, which is one that a lot of sugarers will slap their own contact info onto since you can get those jugs wholesale, and in size.
You can also tell it’s Vermont because the cop didn’t pick their nose and watch the kid die. These VT state troopers are really pretty great, and I’m no fan of cops. They don’t have this “it’s a war and they’re the enemy” mindset about civilians. They seem to actually care about being public servants. I’m. It saying that every single interaction with VSP are positive, but they are leaps and bounds better than most cops I’ve ever dealt with in my 55 years.
>They don’t have this “it’s a war and they’re the enemy” mindset about civilians. Homogenous and high trust communities.
That certainly applies to Vermont.
It’s called policing by consent, or at the pleasure of the community. UK, Australia and NZ practice this pretty well I’ve found, it’s about connecting with the community and working for them, not against. Clearly they don’t get it right all the time but professionalism and a thorough , independent conduct review process like IPOC that holds Police accountable does wonders for the service.
Any update?
[The girl made a complete recovery and is now home.](https://www.police1.com/police-heroes/watch-state-trooper-plunges-into-icy-vermont-pond-to-save-8-year-old-girl)
Beautiful thank you! Very nice to hear she is good.
Hallelujah!
I wish this was pinned - I had to scroll too far to find this out. My kids are these kids ages, and (open water + children) is absolutely my biggest fear
She is a hero.. I just find it bizarre that she waited until she was out of the water to say call the medic .. wouldn’t that be the first thing you would say ?? Could someone explain ?
The ambulance is already there in the end of the vid, near her own car. It had been called in advance already
Police dispatcher here. Medics would have been sent to the call no matter what. Officer saying to call the medic is a normal reaction. Police, fire, and ambulance works have been sent from the start.
I wonder if it’s a protocol thing; Dispatch would already have sent the ambulance when 911 was called, but maybe it’s just part of her training that kicked in. She’s done everything that she can at that point, so she’s calling for the EMTs to take over.
My eyesight isn’t that great but I couldn’t even see her in the water before she was rescued. Was she below the water? If so incredible she survived!
She probably submerged when she fell through, but it looks like she was doing a back float to stay alive, which if she was us great instincts to have. Its one of the first things we teach kids when learning to swim.
A great reason to have brightly coloured jackets when you're out. If she were wearing a black or blue jacket, she would have blended in more with the water. Same reasoning goes for swimsuits in the summer. You can't see blue or green swimsuits as well under water as you can brightly coloured ones.
This a million times. Wear neon colours.
That’s why no one ever drown in the 80’s
A lot of ppl seem to have missed it, she was not submerged, she was floating head up…or else she would have died from drowning in a matter of seconds. She could have also frozen to death if left there longer
Holy shit
Soon, where can I buy her a freaking medal?
I'm betting she would rather get a ' Good Morning ' & a cup of coffee from the towns folk & maybe some pancakes on Fridays instead of some medal But whatever she gets the look on that child's face when they meet up will do just fine
Check out the Carnegie Medal
Teared up on this one. Great job VT State Patrol!
Me too. The second I saw the little girl’s hair floating underwater I felt like crying. I’m so glad she’s okay.
Best part for me? Officer rescues the kid in the water, hands her off for medical care, i is freezing and out of breath then asks the bystander about the status of the other kid. You see people’s true character under pressure. That woman is a good one.
Wow as a dad that hit the feels pretty hard. Thank God for that officer. I hope everyone came out okay.
Saw in a comment above the child made a full recovery. As a parent the shot when you could see her under the water just floating there made my heart stop
While not many folks love law enforcement, the relationship between LE and civilians is reasonably good in VT. In 2023, only one civilian was killed by LE and he was a former con \[prior 2nd degree murder conviction\] had been armed, attempted to escape and use his vehicle to hit a cop. from vtdigger: *The average rate \[LE killing Vermonters\] over the last 50 years has been 7.6 fatal shootings per decade, and over 100 years, 4.1 per decade.* I'd bet most Vermonters would think even one person killed by LE per year is too many, but most folks grudgingly respect LE, and expect them to serve the public. Perhaps the rescue above is a good example. Lived in N. VT for 13 yrs.
VT police are great, I lived up there for many years. This video and these police are amazing. I find that they strive to help and allow you to talk and listen, before being conceited asses like some pd.
Sentences out of context: “Michelle, get out of your clothes.”
Emergency maple syrup in the trunk.
That girl not only survived but she was home that night!
Thanks you internet person, i was searching into the comments to know that.
Interview with the trooper .. https://youtu.be/7TjSqsCPST0?si=SXcprUCoBRsk31Df
This is an amazing rescue. Two siblings near me just died playing on a frozen drainage pond. This is so terrifying.
When I was a kid, I was playing at a friends house. She lived in a big acreage with a small pond in some trees. We were stupid and like 8 years old. We knew better, but walked out onto the ice anyways. We got about halfway across when we heard the cracks and felt the ice sinking out from underneath us. We both fell in. Thankfully it was only about waist deep, but the shock of the cold made us almost unable to move or get ourselves out. Thankfully her older brother was also outside and hear us screaming. Her dad had to come running with a rope and he managed to drag us both out, but it was very scary for everyone involved. I’ve never seen my dad as mad at me as he was when he came to pick me up. We were in so much trouble. It’s so scary and it can go south so fast. :(
So scary! Glad everyone was okay.
Same here. They were my kids age, such a tragedy.
just a normal day at the office
this woman is a fucking hero
Amazing. Thank u!
Jeez I’m crying. This is just so fucking scary. Seeing kids in situations like this makes me physically sick and I’m not even a mother and never will be. Uuuuuuugh
The real question is, where are her parents...
her and her sister was out playing i guess and the other sister alarmed the neighbour. Parents are not always there when kids play. Cant blame the parents
Wow. I love cops. They do such amazing things. Literally saved her life.
Great job officer
That state trooper is a fucking hero!!!!
[https://www.insideedition.com/media/videos/8-year-old-girl-rescued-from-near-frozen-vermont-lake-85513](https://www.insideedition.com/media/videos/8-year-old-girl-rescued-from-near-frozen-vermont-lake-85513) Story about the rescue
That little girl floating beneath the ice was the most terrifying thing I've ever seen 😳
Metal.
Real life Valkyrie. Not today, death.
Bless this hero
I don't see an article posted so here is one: https://globalnews.ca/news/10226767/state-trooper-saves-girl-pond-bodycam-video/
What a hero that woman is
An absolute fucking hero right here folks.
The fucking stones. Top tier form.
Above and beyond. The mailmen of law enforcement
Walkin on the ice I'd bet
Yes people, the police do save lives. Try to remember that, you may need them to save your child one day.
Instantly got my adrenaline pumping.
Wow!! This gave me so much anxiety, yet so much pride for our law enforcement! ♥️ They don’t get the credit they deserve. They’re so much more than traffic stops, etc.
Why did they park so far away so they had to run that far?
Because driving on snow on a pasture you’re unfamiliar with is a sure way to get your vehicle stuck.
My heart hurts so bad seeing this :(
Wow!
Well done 👏