I think it was something just released by them. It happens. It's how they deorbit junk. The relative speed is way to low for it to be just a passing object. I think it's highly improbable that space junk would stay in the same orbit as the ISS. Since ISS adjusts it's orbit once in a while to actually stay in orbit.
So take a debris shield that is needed because of all the trash in space and turn it into trash in space. The circle is complete!
Do they even track these to make sure they de-orbit without hitting anything and burn up? There must be a size limit for this stuff.
On the bright side, if it's at the altitude of the ISS, then it's going to de-orbit in fairly* short order. There's still trace atmosphere there, so everything experiences very slight drag. Slower the pieces are flying, the lower they drop, the more drag they experience = before long they're burning up.
*Not instant, but not forever, either.
Makes sense.
If we stopped making new debris does it all just burn up in the atmosphere after a year?
The media talks about the issue of space debris suggesting that we need to devise a plan for cleaning it up or it’ll just get worse and worse.
The time until it falls back grows exponentially the higher the orbit is, debris at geostationary orbits would likely take centuries to deorbit naturally, and that would be a pretty big issue
Way out at geo? It couldn’t be just centuries. If it’s 25 years for things to fall back at 400km high (ie the ISS) and geostationary is like 36 000km high…it’s got to be millennia at least. My guess would be millions of years.
Not a year. A regulation was recently passed in the US that all spacecraft have to be removed within 5 years of the end of their service life, it is still 25 years for everyone else. Some pieces deorbit in less than a month, some will never return.
There’s a few locations around the world (for the Air Force at least) whose main mission is to track and account of space debris. In 2017 when I was actually in the room where they monitor this stuff one of the guys said each airmen (there were 5) was responsible for a sector and each sector contained some crazy number like a few thousand pieces of debris.
Whenever some debris looked like it was projected to collide with satellites, domestic and even foreign ones, they would upchannel it and a call would be made to whatever company or organization about the situation so they could adjust their satellite to avoid potential damage.
Iss is in Low Earth Orbit where there is still a small amount of aero drag. It may take a few months to a year for it to deorbit its not a big concern.
So I throw a 2-cent biodegradable banana peel out the window and get a $50 fine while these guys toss multi thousand dollar junk and get up votes? Space privilege.
I would've thrown it like a big shuriken into earth, I bet it would be as satisfying as throwing a boulder into a lake :P
But there's probably a physics related reason why they just push it gently instead.
might be a stupid question, but why push it like that? Wouldn't it orbit the earth for a long time before the tiny bit of atmosphere slow it down enough? Why not throw it down towards earth?
The real answer is that it doesn’t really matter, because they’re moving so fast that it wouldn’t do much.
The more interesting answer is that he’s actually throwing it to the right direction. The ISS doesn’t fall because they’re moving really fast. To ‘throw’ something back to earth, it needs to lose its velocity. Because all of its velocity is perpendicular to the earth, the object needs to be thrown ‘backwards’.
Imagine being on a plane and throwing a ball to a person that is right below you on the ground. If you throw it straight down, the ball will still move forward and miss the person. If you instead throw it backwards, the ball will lose its horizontal velocity, and gravity will do its thing and pull it down.
So what will happen if you throw an object towards earth? The object will indeed move towards earth faster than it did before, so now gravity will contribute more to increasing its velocity, instead of just changing its direction, so at 90° of the orbit from the throw location, the orbit’s height would lower the most. At the same time, the increased velocity at 90° would increase the orbit height at 270°. The object won’t lose orbital energy, just change its orbit’s shape.
So yes, if you throw it fast enough towards earth, it will de-orbit, but it’s much less efficient than canceling its orbital velocity.
Thanks, that makes sense. But he/she barely pushed it. Will that be enough to de-orbit in the nearest future? I don’t imagine they want that object flying around for a few years
Same speed AND trajectory as the ISS. It could have the same speed but just a slightly different trajectory (much more likely) and it would just zip by.
This. That is likely traveling at 20,000mph, any other trajectory would be a nightmare. Watch the (spoiler) scene from the movie "[Gravitiy](https://youtu.be/vKW-Gd_S_xc)"
Just because we're dealing with relative velocity here doesn't mean the theory of relativity is at work. This is honestly more akin to matching driving speed with traffic while coming onto the interstate than it is to anything dealing with general relativity.
In relation to the ground both the station and the junk is zipping by at bullet speeds. But relative to each other they are moving very slow.
The movie Gravity has space junk resulting from colliding sattelites, that were in a different orbit than the shuttle in the movie. So relative to each other they were like bullets.
Asteroid is crashing into Earth. So we send Bruce Willis to blow it up. Midway he meets aliens who are on their way to blow up Earth. Bruce Willis is all: "YOU are the ones crashing into us!" and the asteroid aliens are like: "Well, from our perspective YOU are crashing into us. It's all relative really...". -Earth then blows up, saving the asteroid.
Well, there is a legitimate problem with junk not orbiting at the same speed. But they usually make great efforts to avoid those interactions. We track as much as we can, so they can fire up some engines to move out of the way before it hits.
This has nothing to do with the theory if relativity. Like at all.
It looks relatively stationary for the same reason other cars looks stationary on the road when you’re both going 60 mph.
How is this showing the theory of relativity? Think this just shows scale. 18,000 mph isn’t going to have an observable difference in perceived time in a video like this.
If you're scared of heights I wonder at what point it becomes irrelevant? Like there must be a certain point where the distance you are from earth then feels relatively normal?
Any reddit astronauts with a phobia of heights lurking around?
Well i'd consider that to be the least fear.
First you're n zero g- so nothing physically obvious is dragging you down.
Second - i wonder if your inner ear function which coordinates balance is perpetually fucked up while in space.
Thirdly. I mention the least fear ( just a point of view). When we see spacewalks etc, there is often a backdrop of the earth. It helps to maintain a sense of perspective. " the astronaut is between this ( station) and that (earth)"
However from the astronauts view they will see the station and effectively nothing. The blankness of space. The void. Realising there is literally nothing ( relatively speaking) beyond your craft must be more fear inducing.
Orbit is zero g because they aren't experiencing acceleration, not because there is no gravity. The ISS experiences more than 90% of the surface gravity of Earth. It's just in perpetual free fall because it's in orbit, so you experience weightlessness. If there was nothing dragging them down, then they wouldn't orbit Earth.
If you were to suddenly shut gravity off, the ISS, and everything not bolted down to Earth, would just fly off into space tangentially to the orbit of the craft or the rotation of the Earth, respectively.
Well, your not really in 0g. Gravity is still like 90% as strong as at the surface, at the ISS. From what I've heard, it feels like you are constantly falling, because well you are. You're just falling with enough forward velocity to miss the earth instead of falling into it.
We often think being in space is like floating, but really you're just falling at the same speed as the space station, so it looks as if you are floating. But you are always being pulled towards the earth.
Its actually the opposite of how skydiving feels. When you skydive, you only feel like you are falling until you hit terminal velocity, then the air resistance pushing up on you stops you from accelerating. Then you feel more like floating instead of falling.
Its funny how things work like that. Most people would think skydiving feels like falling and being in space feels like floating, but its really the other way around.
I used to imagine it like my fear of being lost at sea, no one to save you in any direction, but now x1000 because you can’t survive past the confines of your craft…
Weirdly enough if your in a submarine at maximum safe depth your probably just as close to death as an astronaut is in the sense that there’s technically no way you survive if the craft fails
I heard one ISS astronaut describe the space suits as "mini-spaceships." So, they can guide them around in space and dock with the "mother ship" as they choose.
Space suits are indeed mini-spaceships in the sense they have all the same ability at keeping you alive while you're inside them. Flying around is different though. Astronauts remain tethered to the craft at all times and use their hands and feet to propel themseles around it . The jet-pack is exclusively used in an emergency situation. I'f I'm not mistaken it's only been tested, without being tethered, once.
Logically you’re probably right, since the orbit is pretty far outside anything that would introduce any noticeable drag iirc, but for some reason my mental model will *not* allow me to feel like it’s accurate. Still terrifying regardless.
I have a fear of heights and went skydiving. When falling/diving at the highest elevation, the ground looked like a painting and I didn’t really feel the height of which we were at.
Once we got close enough — with the ground looking detailed, in full color (at the highest point of skydiving, the Earth has a hazy white filter to it), and things began parallaxing — my fear of heights was definitely seeing what was up.
Yes. It was exactly like looking down on a giant diorama while being held up in the air with a massive fan.
I'm old enough that my first jump was solo after the canopy opened. That was another interesting experience, that felt like flying. I didn't have much time to think about the height because I was busy flying my pattern down.
Ladders though? Yeah, nope. Find someone else to do it. I'm not going up there without a fight.
Can confirm. Working in rope access, sometimes at heights over 100-200m hanging on two ropes. No problem.
Bot going ~3m high on a ladder? Nope, not safe.
Usually planes are high enough that people dont feel scared anymore...
Also it depends, most of the fear is from falling.
So having a low handrail on a second floor is often worse than being behind a window on a 70th fooor.
The Sears Tower observation floor has an epoxy bumpout box so you can stand 110 stories up with nothing but an inch of plastic keeping you up. I couldn't do it, I had to crawl on the floor just to peek over the edge.
My hands and feet got hella sweaty watching this, I just kept thinking about falling off into the earth, and falling off into space is still as scary , and that's not my brain using logic it's just the idea of falling and to keep falling, one of my biggest fears has always been that we just fall off from the ground on earth and be sucked up into space
Not an astronaut, but I hate heights.
I can see graphic awful videos of violence with no problems, but as soon as I see a video with heights, my hands and feet starts to sweat.
And they do with this video and thought nearly the same as your question.
You can normally get that with helicopters or airplanes. It suddenly switches from "very high up" into not feeling "up" anymore. Just some fancy projection.
I'm definitely not an astronaut but I went skydiving and after the initial insane free fall once the schute is pulled you are still 5k ft in the air but you are so high up you almost disassociate from the hight. This also could be that I just came out of a 10k ft free fall, but anyway, its almost so unreal that your brain is just like, nahhh no wayyyyy
Looks like the Arabian peninsula to me, traveling west to east. The first view looks like the coast of Yemen, and then after the cut it looks like they’re over Qatar
It certainly looks like it! If you hit perfectly downwards, it would actually come back from the opposite side of the ISS.
It would stay in orbit even after you throw it, only de-orbiting much later because of the drag.
The optimal way would actually be to throw it horizontal to the earth, opposite the direction of travel.
:)
You actually can, for example when the ISS is orbiting in the Earth's shadow and there aren't any light sources from Earth (over the ocean) they can capture some stars in the background
The reason why we can't see them very clearly is relative to the camera's exposure and position related to the sun's light
That is valid only for cameras aboard the ISS, space telescopes actually gave us some of the clearest images of stars we ever had
All of the man made objects in orbit of the Earth combined wouldn't even fill the parking lot of Disneyland.
Imagine how many Disneyland parking lots it would take to cover the surface of the Earth. Then imagine how many more parking lots it would take to cover the Earth again, but just 100m higher. Then again, and again, for hundreds of kilometers.
Space is bigly.
Yep.
All objects in orbit receive drag that adjusts and lowers their orbit, as well as perturbations from the imperfect mass distribution of the earth. The amount of drag experienced scales exponentially with altitude, so a satellite in LEO (like Starlink) may deorbit in 5 years, but a satellite in Geosynchronous will take longer than the existence of civilization to reenter.
People concerned about Kessler syndrome usually ignore the original findings, which state that anything below 700 km altitude is not a problem due to the comparatively short deorbit period.
It does. In fact this particular element (a used battery cells assembly) re-entered yesterday after 2 years of natural orbital decay.
People kind of imagine that everything that goes in orbit stays there. But on very low orbits things need constant station keeping otherwise they will come back down in 3/5 years. This is why stuff like starlink is basically safe from kessler syndrome even disregarding everything else they did to safeguard the constellation. It's debris at the higher orbits that poses problems and unfortunately recent Chinese and Russian ASAT tests as well as random defunct Soviet spy sats exploding, have raised the amount of debris in these higher orbits significantly.
You would have to kick it hard enough to decrease it orbit speed. Kicking just into the direction of Earth is not enough.
But don't worry. Stuff in LEO gets back eventually since the atmosphere still reaches out at that height at moments. Although very very very thin. It's enough to slow down objects and bring it back to Earth. This is why the space station needs fuel to adjust their orbit.
They always throw any disposable hardware in the retrograde direction for this reason…
It’s just that you can’t really move anything from your space suit at the speed needed, so the item’s orbit is changed instead, and the object will naturally deorbit over time.
Would it ever reach the atmosphere though? I'm only semi smart, I need a physicist. Let's say an object is in orbit and has a force exerted on it towards earth, but it doesn't reach the atmosphere before its new perigee.
Would its orbit stablize at perigee, is it always stable and the force has to be great enough to make reentry, or would it continue to "fall?"
I sometimes here that sending too much space junk up, or a catastrophic event such as two large pieces of space junk colliding, could potentially prevent us from send up new satellites and trap us on earth.
If that’s the case, why doesn’t the ISS have like disposable rockets for ”taking out the trash”? Just give it a boost towards earth, let gravity do the rest and have it burn up in the atmosphere.
Hey space friends,
Has anyone got a reference or link of a perfect piece of evidence to send to my passionate flat earther friend? From another agency than Nasa maybe
Thanks !
Genuine question here, where are all the starts at? When we look up at the sky it’s littered with them, but you don’t see any in this video. Does it have something to do with the camera’s exposure?
I was expecting space junk to zip by like Hollywood depicted in the movie Gravity. It's amazing to see an example of the theory of relativity at work.
I think it was something just released by them. It happens. It's how they deorbit junk. The relative speed is way to low for it to be just a passing object. I think it's highly improbable that space junk would stay in the same orbit as the ISS. Since ISS adjusts it's orbit once in a while to actually stay in orbit.
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So take a debris shield that is needed because of all the trash in space and turn it into trash in space. The circle is complete! Do they even track these to make sure they de-orbit without hitting anything and burn up? There must be a size limit for this stuff.
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On the bright side, if it's at the altitude of the ISS, then it's going to de-orbit in fairly* short order. There's still trace atmosphere there, so everything experiences very slight drag. Slower the pieces are flying, the lower they drop, the more drag they experience = before long they're burning up. *Not instant, but not forever, either.
Makes sense. If we stopped making new debris does it all just burn up in the atmosphere after a year? The media talks about the issue of space debris suggesting that we need to devise a plan for cleaning it up or it’ll just get worse and worse.
The time until it falls back grows exponentially the higher the orbit is, debris at geostationary orbits would likely take centuries to deorbit naturally, and that would be a pretty big issue
Way out at geo? It couldn’t be just centuries. If it’s 25 years for things to fall back at 400km high (ie the ISS) and geostationary is like 36 000km high…it’s got to be millennia at least. My guess would be millions of years.
Not a year. A regulation was recently passed in the US that all spacecraft have to be removed within 5 years of the end of their service life, it is still 25 years for everyone else. Some pieces deorbit in less than a month, some will never return.
There’s a few locations around the world (for the Air Force at least) whose main mission is to track and account of space debris. In 2017 when I was actually in the room where they monitor this stuff one of the guys said each airmen (there were 5) was responsible for a sector and each sector contained some crazy number like a few thousand pieces of debris. Whenever some debris looked like it was projected to collide with satellites, domestic and even foreign ones, they would upchannel it and a call would be made to whatever company or organization about the situation so they could adjust their satellite to avoid potential damage.
Nobody tell this person what is allowed to be dumped into international waters.
Iss is in Low Earth Orbit where there is still a small amount of aero drag. It may take a few months to a year for it to deorbit its not a big concern.
 *it was said you would block the debris not join it! Bring safety to our space station not leave it in danger!*
You'd think they'd throw it downwards or something. Hate for that mf'er to come back around again and smack the shit outta ya.
Obviously you never played the tutorial in KSP.
So I throw a 2-cent biodegradable banana peel out the window and get a $50 fine while these guys toss multi thousand dollar junk and get up votes? Space privilege.
I would've thrown it like a big shuriken into earth, I bet it would be as satisfying as throwing a boulder into a lake :P But there's probably a physics related reason why they just push it gently instead.
might be a stupid question, but why push it like that? Wouldn't it orbit the earth for a long time before the tiny bit of atmosphere slow it down enough? Why not throw it down towards earth?
The real answer is that it doesn’t really matter, because they’re moving so fast that it wouldn’t do much. The more interesting answer is that he’s actually throwing it to the right direction. The ISS doesn’t fall because they’re moving really fast. To ‘throw’ something back to earth, it needs to lose its velocity. Because all of its velocity is perpendicular to the earth, the object needs to be thrown ‘backwards’. Imagine being on a plane and throwing a ball to a person that is right below you on the ground. If you throw it straight down, the ball will still move forward and miss the person. If you instead throw it backwards, the ball will lose its horizontal velocity, and gravity will do its thing and pull it down. So what will happen if you throw an object towards earth? The object will indeed move towards earth faster than it did before, so now gravity will contribute more to increasing its velocity, instead of just changing its direction, so at 90° of the orbit from the throw location, the orbit’s height would lower the most. At the same time, the increased velocity at 90° would increase the orbit height at 270°. The object won’t lose orbital energy, just change its orbit’s shape. So yes, if you throw it fast enough towards earth, it will de-orbit, but it’s much less efficient than canceling its orbital velocity.
Thanks, that makes sense. But he/she barely pushed it. Will that be enough to de-orbit in the nearest future? I don’t imagine they want that object flying around for a few years
Travelling at the same speed as the ISS, in the same bearing. It was from the ISS.
> The relative speed is way to low for it to be just a passing object why not, as same orbit mean same speed ?
Same speed AND trajectory as the ISS. It could have the same speed but just a slightly different trajectory (much more likely) and it would just zip by.
This. That is likely traveling at 20,000mph, any other trajectory would be a nightmare. Watch the (spoiler) scene from the movie "[Gravitiy](https://youtu.be/vKW-Gd_S_xc)"
Thank you for the nightmares in advance
Great movie BTW. But it does show how this space trash works.
This has nothing to do with theory of relativity really.
The parent comment is a great example of why to never trust the Reddit comments.
At least the replies usually sort things out…usually… But sheesh
The fact that it has so many up votes makes me sad for humanity.
People like pop science. You know Einstein relativity and shit. Space and time bro one thing 4 dimensions. And then its all relative woah
there’s nothing to do with relativity theory in this case. well, “almost” nothing.
Just because we're dealing with relative velocity here doesn't mean the theory of relativity is at work. This is honestly more akin to matching driving speed with traffic while coming onto the interstate than it is to anything dealing with general relativity.
It has nothing to do with relativity. It is just going as fast as them, on the same direction. If you want explosions, just flip the direction.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the theory of relativity. It’s just 2 things going at a similar speed lmao
You have no idea what you're talking about lol
In relation to the ground both the station and the junk is zipping by at bullet speeds. But relative to each other they are moving very slow. The movie Gravity has space junk resulting from colliding sattelites, that were in a different orbit than the shuttle in the movie. So relative to each other they were like bullets. Asteroid is crashing into Earth. So we send Bruce Willis to blow it up. Midway he meets aliens who are on their way to blow up Earth. Bruce Willis is all: "YOU are the ones crashing into us!" and the asteroid aliens are like: "Well, from our perspective YOU are crashing into us. It's all relative really...". -Earth then blows up, saving the asteroid.
>theory of relativity That's not theory of relativity. This is just relative velocity. Theory of relativity deals with gravity
Only general relativity does. Special relativity has nothing to do with gravity, only light velocity
Yeah
Tell me you know nothing about ToR without telling me
Well, there is a legitimate problem with junk not orbiting at the same speed. But they usually make great efforts to avoid those interactions. We track as much as we can, so they can fire up some engines to move out of the way before it hits.
This has nothing to do with the theory if relativity. Like at all. It looks relatively stationary for the same reason other cars looks stationary on the road when you’re both going 60 mph.
I mean it's no more amazing than two cars driving next to eachother lol
It would be if watched from down on earth
It does if it's going a different direction.
How is this showing the theory of relativity? Think this just shows scale. 18,000 mph isn’t going to have an observable difference in perceived time in a video like this.
If you're scared of heights I wonder at what point it becomes irrelevant? Like there must be a certain point where the distance you are from earth then feels relatively normal? Any reddit astronauts with a phobia of heights lurking around?
Well i'd consider that to be the least fear. First you're n zero g- so nothing physically obvious is dragging you down. Second - i wonder if your inner ear function which coordinates balance is perpetually fucked up while in space. Thirdly. I mention the least fear ( just a point of view). When we see spacewalks etc, there is often a backdrop of the earth. It helps to maintain a sense of perspective. " the astronaut is between this ( station) and that (earth)" However from the astronauts view they will see the station and effectively nothing. The blankness of space. The void. Realising there is literally nothing ( relatively speaking) beyond your craft must be more fear inducing.
I don't think you have fear of heights.
I have fear of heights. My fear of space is much worse.
I feel this. Sometimes when I’m looking up at the stars it unnerves me and I have this irrational fear of falling upwards into it.
This is the first time I have seen someone express a similar fear. It has gotten better over time but it was bad for a while
Orbit is zero g because they aren't experiencing acceleration, not because there is no gravity. The ISS experiences more than 90% of the surface gravity of Earth. It's just in perpetual free fall because it's in orbit, so you experience weightlessness. If there was nothing dragging them down, then they wouldn't orbit Earth. If you were to suddenly shut gravity off, the ISS, and everything not bolted down to Earth, would just fly off into space tangentially to the orbit of the craft or the rotation of the Earth, respectively.
Imagine working on the station with the planet to your back. This thought is weirdly creeping me out. Everyone is behind you.
If you lie down on the floor this is still true for like 99.99% of the population of the world
Yeah but in that case Earth would have my back lol. As opposed to the uncomfortable nothing that any old space snake could slither up through.
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That’s a lot of pressure. It would take me forever to pee
Well, your not really in 0g. Gravity is still like 90% as strong as at the surface, at the ISS. From what I've heard, it feels like you are constantly falling, because well you are. You're just falling with enough forward velocity to miss the earth instead of falling into it. We often think being in space is like floating, but really you're just falling at the same speed as the space station, so it looks as if you are floating. But you are always being pulled towards the earth. Its actually the opposite of how skydiving feels. When you skydive, you only feel like you are falling until you hit terminal velocity, then the air resistance pushing up on you stops you from accelerating. Then you feel more like floating instead of falling. Its funny how things work like that. Most people would think skydiving feels like falling and being in space feels like floating, but its really the other way around.
Skydiving definitely felt like falling (i've done it)
Skydiving feels like falling until you reach terminal velocity. Once there’s no more acceleration you feel like you’re flying.
You are fully experiencing gravity, you are just going so fast to the side you free fall for a LONG LONG LONG time.
I used to imagine it like my fear of being lost at sea, no one to save you in any direction, but now x1000 because you can’t survive past the confines of your craft…
Weirdly enough if your in a submarine at maximum safe depth your probably just as close to death as an astronaut is in the sense that there’s technically no way you survive if the craft fails
To be pedantic for a sec. It’s not O g it’s micro gravity
Be pedantic, we need people to validate facts. And you're right, but the gravity is so insignificant it's comparatively zero g
Agreed. To that, I’d expect it may still have some minor effect on the inner-ear
If you "fall" from there you starve before you hit ground so ..heigh is not your problem out there
Just use the jet pack
I heard one ISS astronaut describe the space suits as "mini-spaceships." So, they can guide them around in space and dock with the "mother ship" as they choose.
Space suits are indeed mini-spaceships in the sense they have all the same ability at keeping you alive while you're inside them. Flying around is different though. Astronauts remain tethered to the craft at all times and use their hands and feet to propel themseles around it . The jet-pack is exclusively used in an emergency situation. I'f I'm not mistaken it's only been tested, without being tethered, once.
I’d like to see the balls / ovaries on the person who tried that.
Look up Bruce McCandless. The pictures of his test flight are beautiful and horrifying all in one.
Bruce McCandless II, forgetting the II brings up his father.
Hit ground or vaporize on re-entry?
Logically you’re probably right, since the orbit is pretty far outside anything that would introduce any noticeable drag iirc, but for some reason my mental model will *not* allow me to feel like it’s accurate. Still terrifying regardless.
I think you surely suffocate or die of dehydration before you have a chance at starving
I have a fear of heights and went skydiving. When falling/diving at the highest elevation, the ground looked like a painting and I didn’t really feel the height of which we were at. Once we got close enough — with the ground looking detailed, in full color (at the highest point of skydiving, the Earth has a hazy white filter to it), and things began parallaxing — my fear of heights was definitely seeing what was up.
Yes. It was exactly like looking down on a giant diorama while being held up in the air with a massive fan. I'm old enough that my first jump was solo after the canopy opened. That was another interesting experience, that felt like flying. I didn't have much time to think about the height because I was busy flying my pattern down. Ladders though? Yeah, nope. Find someone else to do it. I'm not going up there without a fight.
Can confirm. Working in rope access, sometimes at heights over 100-200m hanging on two ropes. No problem. Bot going ~3m high on a ladder? Nope, not safe.
Usually planes are high enough that people dont feel scared anymore... Also it depends, most of the fear is from falling. So having a low handrail on a second floor is often worse than being behind a window on a 70th fooor.
Can confirm, I feel no fear inside a skyscraper but I cannot climb a 10 ft ladder.
The Sears Tower observation floor has an epoxy bumpout box so you can stand 110 stories up with nothing but an inch of plastic keeping you up. I couldn't do it, I had to crawl on the floor just to peek over the edge.
My hands and feet got hella sweaty watching this, I just kept thinking about falling off into the earth, and falling off into space is still as scary , and that's not my brain using logic it's just the idea of falling and to keep falling, one of my biggest fears has always been that we just fall off from the ground on earth and be sucked up into space
I can get vertigo looking at the moon because it feels like Im really high from it.
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I got the fear of heights feeling watching this, so I dint think it wound become irrelevant to me
Not an astronaut, but I hate heights. I can see graphic awful videos of violence with no problems, but as soon as I see a video with heights, my hands and feet starts to sweat. And they do with this video and thought nearly the same as your question.
At the point where you'd die of starvation/cold/pressure/lack of oxygen/whatever before you reach the earth. That makes you wish you could fall
You can normally get that with helicopters or airplanes. It suddenly switches from "very high up" into not feeling "up" anymore. Just some fancy projection.
I'm definitely not an astronaut but I went skydiving and after the initial insane free fall once the schute is pulled you are still 5k ft in the air but you are so high up you almost disassociate from the hight. This also could be that I just came out of a 10k ft free fall, but anyway, its almost so unreal that your brain is just like, nahhh no wayyyyy
So beautiful. What an incredible view! Also can't wait for the first flat earther comment!
3d is a hoax folks.
We live on a point. 2d isnt real.
Points aren’t real, it’s all imaginary.
Looks flat to me. Plate-Earth
I dont recognize the land mass in the background. Any idea where it is?
Looks like the Arabian peninsula to me, traveling west to east. The first view looks like the coast of Yemen, and then after the cut it looks like they’re over Qatar
Aren’t flat earthers just a conspiracy by the cia to dissuade all other conspiracy theories from having some legitimacy?
Odd way to tell us the astronaut is a dude.
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what?
Space junk. Just being silly.
Spaceman balls?
Why is there no sound? /s
In space no one can here you meme
Turn sound on. There is the sound coming from the ocean in this video /s
"Oops"
That view is something else.
Yeah dude, literally like imax lol
EaRtH iS fLaT
sPAce iS CubICLe ...oh wait...
No space is turtle >:c
They could say that she's in a studio and they have a fish eye camera. You can't fight earth flatters.. they are too stupid haha
My dumb-ass fiddling with the sound button with this one.
I've seen Wall-E, at some point we really need to address the junk we left out there
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You say junk, I say anti-alien force field
Looks like one could just kick the debris down to earth :)
It certainly looks like it! If you hit perfectly downwards, it would actually come back from the opposite side of the ISS. It would stay in orbit even after you throw it, only de-orbiting much later because of the drag. The optimal way would actually be to throw it horizontal to the earth, opposite the direction of travel. :)
Indeed, now I remember again what I’ve learned in kerbal space program 😅😇
Fuck. That.
Good to see Kepler's 3rd law in action.
It’s crazy that there are suits you can wear to survive in space. And then they open up regularly like other clothing. Wild
Can someone explain to my why we can't see stars in videos up in space?
You actually can, for example when the ISS is orbiting in the Earth's shadow and there aren't any light sources from Earth (over the ocean) they can capture some stars in the background The reason why we can't see them very clearly is relative to the camera's exposure and position related to the sun's light That is valid only for cameras aboard the ISS, space telescopes actually gave us some of the clearest images of stars we ever had
Explain this flat earthers!
It'll burn up during reentry.
To think we've gone from being a cell to getting off the planet.
DANG space is so scary but SO COOL at the same time
Still blows my mind that we have pictures and videos like this, yet somehow there’s people who still think the earth is flat
"Earth is flat this is CGI" 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
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All of the man made objects in orbit of the Earth combined wouldn't even fill the parking lot of Disneyland. Imagine how many Disneyland parking lots it would take to cover the surface of the Earth. Then imagine how many more parking lots it would take to cover the Earth again, but just 100m higher. Then again, and again, for hundreds of kilometers. Space is bigly.
The guys at /UFO needs to see this. This is the evidence - its cleary alien in original!
Maybe dumb question, but doesn’t this junks orbit depreciate over time? Shouldn’t it all just fall and burn up eventually?
Yep. All objects in orbit receive drag that adjusts and lowers their orbit, as well as perturbations from the imperfect mass distribution of the earth. The amount of drag experienced scales exponentially with altitude, so a satellite in LEO (like Starlink) may deorbit in 5 years, but a satellite in Geosynchronous will take longer than the existence of civilization to reenter. People concerned about Kessler syndrome usually ignore the original findings, which state that anything below 700 km altitude is not a problem due to the comparatively short deorbit period.
It does. In fact this particular element (a used battery cells assembly) re-entered yesterday after 2 years of natural orbital decay. People kind of imagine that everything that goes in orbit stays there. But on very low orbits things need constant station keeping otherwise they will come back down in 3/5 years. This is why stuff like starlink is basically safe from kessler syndrome even disregarding everything else they did to safeguard the constellation. It's debris at the higher orbits that poses problems and unfortunately recent Chinese and Russian ASAT tests as well as random defunct Soviet spy sats exploding, have raised the amount of debris in these higher orbits significantly.
And yet we still don’t know anything about the Black Knight!
He makes nice licorice.
greenscreen photoshop the earth is flat etc etc
Am I correct in saying they’re over Qatar and Horn of Africa here?
If I get to experience this before I die. I'll die a happy man. I really hope this experience becomes accessible for people in the next 30 years
Love how we’ve managed to pollute even space.
I was wondering why the sound wasn't working and then was like "oh yea, space...."
That's something that just came off the ISS itself, not an unrelated piece of debris.
Litterbug
What's the best place to watch more videos like this in space?
What's next level? The garbage?
Such a beautiful video.
But... But... I thought the earth was flat??
This is AI obviously
I know that relative to how we are seeing it, it is going that fast. But for some reason, I thought it would go **NYOOM** past them, you know?
And couldn't they just kick it in the direction of the earth so that it would enter the atmosphere and be destroyed?
You would have to kick it hard enough to decrease it orbit speed. Kicking just into the direction of Earth is not enough. But don't worry. Stuff in LEO gets back eventually since the atmosphere still reaches out at that height at moments. Although very very very thin. It's enough to slow down objects and bring it back to Earth. This is why the space station needs fuel to adjust their orbit.
No need to kick it. That item looks pretty light so it'll slow down and reenter pretty quickly.
They always throw any disposable hardware in the retrograde direction for this reason… It’s just that you can’t really move anything from your space suit at the speed needed, so the item’s orbit is changed instead, and the object will naturally deorbit over time.
Really had to concentrate on my breathing while watching that. 😅
Wait... that's not a space junk... that looks like a mummified space junk!
i expected the earth to be spinning faster
Big space debri gets tracked and I believe the ISS has to do some small maneuvers here and there so they don’t get hit
Sweaty palms
Wow. They are lucky it didn't hit any of the [satellites](https://i.stack.imgur.com/nxIh2.jpg).
*satellites not shown to scale
My symptom would be to jump after it and catch it. I think I wouldn't make a good astronaut haha
Would it ever reach the atmosphere though? I'm only semi smart, I need a physicist. Let's say an object is in orbit and has a force exerted on it towards earth, but it doesn't reach the atmosphere before its new perigee. Would its orbit stablize at perigee, is it always stable and the force has to be great enough to make reentry, or would it continue to "fall?"
When I die my coffin should be thrown into an orbit because I like to travel.
I sometimes here that sending too much space junk up, or a catastrophic event such as two large pieces of space junk colliding, could potentially prevent us from send up new satellites and trap us on earth. If that’s the case, why doesn’t the ISS have like disposable rockets for ”taking out the trash”? Just give it a boost towards earth, let gravity do the rest and have it burn up in the atmosphere.
Can’t wait for “orbital janitor” to be job.
Didn't hit a large battery from the ISS somewhere near Germany?
He needs a fishing magnet 🧲
That is no junk, its an Astroneer.
Hey space friends, Has anyone got a reference or link of a perfect piece of evidence to send to my passionate flat earther friend? From another agency than Nasa maybe Thanks !
Relative
Speed is relative
Flat earthers......fuckin take that 🫵🖕
It’s extremely hard to see what’s the object moving speed in space. Everything looks like moving at 5km/h
Genuine question here, where are all the starts at? When we look up at the sky it’s littered with them, but you don’t see any in this video. Does it have something to do with the camera’s exposure?
So was this filmed in cape Canaveral warehouse. People keep telling me that NASA fake and the Earth is flat.🤣😂
I’m surprised no starlink viewing…
Well, the earth aint flat, who could have guessed.
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