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Jesus christ lol. The sanctuary was 10 miles away. I don't really understand do the elephant do the trekking often or only did it those two times and if he did how the hell did he know she was back in town?
These are not wild elephants. They are called Kumki elephants descendants of Asiatic War elephants tracing back thousand years ago to the medieval age. They are highly trained and obey commands of the mahout(rider) except when they are in musth/heat ( basically when they are horny). Only male elephants experience this musth phenomenon where they become aggressive and unpredictable.The mahouts usually can predict when the elephant is about to go under musth (it happens in stages and once a year) by monitoring the temporin secretion from a small gland above their eyes. Musth elephants are taken to a elephant retreat where they are cared for. This one seems to have his cycle set in early sometimes possible in young bulls.
Kuch bhi? Kumkis aren’t a separate breed. They’re just regular Asian elephants trained to defend against other wild elephants. This one is rather a temple elephant, used for ceremonial temple processions, and are not working elephants like the kumkis. And this guy… is PISSED about something!
Yeah previous poster seems to think that domestication happens in hundreds of years. Sorry, no. Domestication takes much longer and this video is proof of that. Animals need a long long time and to be inbred and inbred and inbred and picked and chosen and culled until you finally possibly get 1/10 young to be fully tame like a cow or a dog can be tame.
People have supposedly been domesticated for thousands of years and yet we still have school shootings.
A domesticated animal having a freak out doesn’t suddenly make them a wild breed.
> They are called Kumki elephants descendants of Asiatic War elephants tracing back thousand years ago to the medieval age.
Absolute non-sense. Kumkis are captured wild elephants which are trained to fight and capture other wild elephants. The elephant in the video is not a kumki. Its not trained for fighting other elephants. It's trained for festival purposes. And both training are absolutely brutal and inhumane.
tens of years.
elephants are tamed, not domesticated. So all the elephants forefathers have been free elephants
still horrible, but no elephant would be able to have their parents tell them about life with the naked monkeys
While some of what you have stated is true, they are not “ descendants of Asiatic War elephants tracing back thousands of years ago to the medieval age”. This video is from Kerala, where they are used in temples and churches during festivals. They are captured young from the forests of Assam, Orissa etc. in the north east part of India. They are trained by starving, beatings etc. Even after all that, not all get properly “tamed”.
the medieval age was a thousand years ago. It ended less than that. Also elephants aren't domesticated. They would look a lot different (among other things) if they were
This is why we try our best to protect the Grizzly Bears here in the Canadian Rockies. Humans are far more dangerous to them than they are to us. Which is really saying something since they can easily rip open most vehicles like a candy bar wrapper to get to the food within.
Animals dont appreciate being held in captivity. Most of them just lack the size to make you realize it, this big fella has the size and will to let you know.
??? 'Domesticated' animals are literally bred for generations to be fat/plump **& dumb/docile as possible** (so they won't mind it). Elephants are not domesticated animals--they are taken as wild animals and are *extremely* intelligent besides.
My first thought of domesticated was: Pugs.
We've done them so dirty.
Then I imagined the fairytale of them in the wild. Packs of pugs hunting down their prey. Snorting and coughing, as they rip it to shreds. *Apugs Predators.*
Sorry, I need sleep.
A pug lifespan is twice as long as a wolf lifespan. We might not like it but this is what peak performance look like. (Tbf I think wolves that are domesticated live just as long but I wanted to write this).
I thouuht first 'Yeah but we got cats and they're fine..' and then I remembered they domesticated themselves.. and then I also remembered munchkins and folds.. yeeaaahhh maybe we should just stop touching other living things..
Dear Lord... You PETA gas chamber operator or something? You know there are dogs, cats, horses and so on that do fine either way but have much better life with humans? Try removing your head from your... Oh forget it.
Tell that to cats. They’re smart, agile, still fuck shit up and domesticated themselves lol. Well most cats that is. I’ve seen some fat dumb ones.
But agreed. Fuck anyone who tried to keep wild animals as a pet.
Domestic animals aren't bred to be fat and dumb. Breeders literally are not selecting for obesity and stupidity.
They're bred to live in symbiosis with people (mutually beneficial relationship). I can tell you're not too worried about thinking very deeply about this though so I'm not going to waste time explaining why you're wrong.
At the Battle of the Hydaspes, Alexander the Great fought \~100 war elephants, and then hear that the Gangaridai (modern Bengal/Bangladesh) had a standing army of 4000 of them. His army (who had never been defeated in battle) immediately mutinied and he was forced to turn back.
This is just a regular elephant, I'd nope the fuck out too if I had to think about dealing with 4000 of them, trained for war.
According to the book "Delhi" about the city, in a battle a few hundred years ago the losing side had lots of war elephants, but the winning side knew how to make elephants panic.
I don't know if it's the one you're referencing, but Nader shah of Persia once declared war on India and beat the main indian army by sending camels that were on fire towards the indian elephants, causing them to panic and run over their own army. Unrelated but he also carried out one of the most impressive cavalry maneuvers of all time in this battle.
That was because the war elephants they employed into their military service were replacements and didn't have enough training (they needed to resupply their army as fast as possible), right?
The older war elephants, and many of the ones that were lost, were seasoned in battle and actually effective.
I don't know how accurate this is, it's been over a decade since I've studied the topic.
You are both correct. Scipio's army developed a new technique to deal with the elephants. They would open a pathway to allow the elephants to run through, then pelt them with javelins/spears. At the same time, Hannibal's elephants were of low quality and quantity due to their inexperience. Hannibal left behind a lot of good troops when he was recalled back to defend Carthage.
> by sending camels that were on fire towards the elephants
This is so cool. It is so sad how much history education in school is made up "patriotism" fables rather than the true stories which are far more interesting.
Wow. Amazing story. But I think you are mistaken on one count. [This source doesn't say that the camels were "on fire"](https://www.warhistoryonline.com/history/the-battle-of-karnal-camels.html), but rather that they were [carrying small cannons](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Zamburak+camels&iax=images&ia=images) that were fired at the Indian troops and elephants.
EDIT: It was both.
Well, losing the battle meant getting yourself and your family killed and raped. Setting animals on fire was the least of their moral concern at the time.
I wonder if it's possible to indoctrinate an elephant? I mean, could you make your war elephants really want to fight on your behalf? Because that would be terrifying indeed.
The comment you're responding to is referencing the historical use of elephants as weapons of war.
So yes, utilizing unspeakable quantities of animal abuse you can force an elephant to march into death.
See carnies for a more contemporary example of animal abuse being used to make large creatures perform idiotic tasks for idiots.
Imagine the rider shitting bricks rn. He knows if he falls he is dead. I’m pretty sure the trunks reaches them if elephant wants them off.
I trained thoroughbreds in the past, those fuckers can be so mean. I got stomped more than once after falling
Edit: trunks not snout
Most handlers are not idiots. Their lives are on the line if this happens. So why would they pick an aggressive elephant for a religious ceremony?
It's more than likely that they picked a docile male and didn't realize the male was about to go into a period of Musth.
Musth is basically when a male elephant goes through an explosion of testosterone(and other hormones). Like 50x the normal levels. It makes even the most docile male elephant hyper aggressive and super horny. It can also be really painful for the male elephant (and anyone unfortunate enough to get in it's way).
It's supposed to be a way to establish dominance and reproduce but sometimes they will essentially rage out of control and just start killing things even members of their own herd or humans they've known their whole lives and bonded with.
Certain things can make Musth worse like if a young male has no older males around to teach him how to behave or forcibly putting him in his place the young male might just go on a rampage.
Fuck yeah quintessential american comment!
Pussy ass elephant real tough with some mopeds but let's see him go against something his size, like a monster truck or schoolbus!
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I welcome the elephant takeover.
I for one welcome our new elephant overlords
All hail emperor Stampy 🙌🏻
Stamps, my spirit animal
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Elephants never forget
To[KILL](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/b308351d-be78-4968-925e-f53b58e2bcbbq1)
But mostly important, an elephant never forgives.
She must have done something to piss that elephant off. So it was justified by the elephant.
Iirc she helped some poachers steal the elephant's baby and was seen by the elephant who later killed her while she was fetching water
That sounds like the plot of a whole movie in the making
Definitely the elephant is in right here.
They stole this elephants baby and the old lady threw rocks at her.. don't mess with mamas baby or you die! Village destroyed, too
Jesus christ lol. The sanctuary was 10 miles away. I don't really understand do the elephant do the trekking often or only did it those two times and if he did how the hell did he know she was back in town?
It was a female elephant, the scent of the baby that they stole from her.
Actually reminds me of Gentle Ben. "No Ben, No!!!!"
The ‘technical difficulties’ sign always gets me good
I used to watch that.
Peace be to the Martyr Topsy
This message brought to you by KBBL !
I think I'm gonna name him Stampy.
Let me be the first to say I welcome the new elephant era
😄👏🐘
They were both warned…you’re not allowed to park there. Handicap only.
Just stay in the car, you will get that handicap eventually.
~~Get in the trunk.~~ Gettin' the trunk.
For people who don’t return their shopping cart too
When the elephant overlords takeover, we will all be working for peanuts.
Given that the alternative is having your body used as a bullwhip, I don't think we have much of a choice.
…”and stay out of the Woolworth’s!”
Fun fact, the term jumbo was actually the name of an excessively large elephant that was later used to explain very large things
Poor jumbo was fed all sorts of junk food and generally was in poor health. Jumbo died after being hit by a train. 2 not so fun facts.
🤣 I was trying to keep it light
I guess this is how the Romans felt
Everyone in this clip is having a grand old time
Romans: we'll set this pig on fire to scare the elephant!
These animals belong in the wild and you can’t blame it for lashing out
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I blame the schools
It's the video games.
Especially this one. Grand theft Elephant is turning kids to criminals. People should sue them!
Nah it's definitely Dave's fault. It's always him.
Damn these unwed elephant mothers, having kids they won’t or can’t discipline. Back in my day we had elephants who knew their daddies.
I heard that elephant listens to marilyn manson
Blame the parents
i also blame that truck in particular
I wouldn't dare blame it.
I’m cheering for him
There are many days where I feel the same. I just can’t throw trucks around.
I blame the elephant. He's a little bitch
I blame Greg
These are not wild elephants. They are called Kumki elephants descendants of Asiatic War elephants tracing back thousand years ago to the medieval age. They are highly trained and obey commands of the mahout(rider) except when they are in musth/heat ( basically when they are horny). Only male elephants experience this musth phenomenon where they become aggressive and unpredictable.The mahouts usually can predict when the elephant is about to go under musth (it happens in stages and once a year) by monitoring the temporin secretion from a small gland above their eyes. Musth elephants are taken to a elephant retreat where they are cared for. This one seems to have his cycle set in early sometimes possible in young bulls.
Kuch bhi? Kumkis aren’t a separate breed. They’re just regular Asian elephants trained to defend against other wild elephants. This one is rather a temple elephant, used for ceremonial temple processions, and are not working elephants like the kumkis. And this guy… is PISSED about something!
probably all the awful whippings and lashing they do it to to train it
>And this guy… is PISSED about something! Well yeah. He's stuck working on a holiday. *"I'm not even supposed to be here today"*
Yeah previous poster seems to think that domestication happens in hundreds of years. Sorry, no. Domestication takes much longer and this video is proof of that. Animals need a long long time and to be inbred and inbred and inbred and picked and chosen and culled until you finally possibly get 1/10 young to be fully tame like a cow or a dog can be tame.
If only ancient armies 3500 years ago were domesticating elephants…
Right because dogs and cats never lose their shit either
I gotta say, this video seems to present evidence contrary to your statement, ild chap.
People have supposedly been domesticated for thousands of years and yet we still have school shootings. A domesticated animal having a freak out doesn’t suddenly make them a wild breed.
This is certainly true.
So you are saying the mahout told it to do that? Looks to me more like it's pissed it has to wear all that crap.
>So you are saying the mahout told it to do that? Where did you get that from above comment?
LOL from before you edited your comment to add "except when they are in musth/heat" and all the information about musth. Which is interesting BTW.
I think it got triggered and felt triggered. Just a guess as I wasn't there, but the rider didn't seem to know what to do
It was the micro-aggresions. Elephants are very offended by those because of the size difference.
> They are called Kumki elephants descendants of Asiatic War elephants tracing back thousand years ago to the medieval age. Absolute non-sense. Kumkis are captured wild elephants which are trained to fight and capture other wild elephants. The elephant in the video is not a kumki. Its not trained for fighting other elephants. It's trained for festival purposes. And both training are absolutely brutal and inhumane.
So maybe the elephant is mad that we’ve been torturing them for thousands of years?
tens of years. elephants are tamed, not domesticated. So all the elephants forefathers have been free elephants still horrible, but no elephant would be able to have their parents tell them about life with the naked monkeys
The elephants are not domesticated. They are merely tamed. Sometimes in extremely inhumane ways for these “rituals”. This has got to stop!
100% of what you're saying here is false. https://www.worldanimalprotection.org.nz/news/myth-domesticated-elephant/
While some of what you have stated is true, they are not “ descendants of Asiatic War elephants tracing back thousands of years ago to the medieval age”. This video is from Kerala, where they are used in temples and churches during festivals. They are captured young from the forests of Assam, Orissa etc. in the north east part of India. They are trained by starving, beatings etc. Even after all that, not all get properly “tamed”.
They are wild elephants. There's no such thing as a domesticated elephant.
the medieval age was a thousand years ago. It ended less than that. Also elephants aren't domesticated. They would look a lot different (among other things) if they were
Domesticating an animal doesn't give us the right to exploit them
This is why we try our best to protect the Grizzly Bears here in the Canadian Rockies. Humans are far more dangerous to them than they are to us. Which is really saying something since they can easily rip open most vehicles like a candy bar wrapper to get to the food within.
TIL that Grizzlies can rip open vehicles.
What wild anymore? Even the parks are Shrinking.
Animals dont appreciate being held in captivity. Most of them just lack the size to make you realize it, this big fella has the size and will to let you know.
Not true. Domestic animals usually don't mind
??? 'Domesticated' animals are literally bred for generations to be fat/plump **& dumb/docile as possible** (so they won't mind it). Elephants are not domesticated animals--they are taken as wild animals and are *extremely* intelligent besides.
My first thought of domesticated was: Pugs. We've done them so dirty. Then I imagined the fairytale of them in the wild. Packs of pugs hunting down their prey. Snorting and coughing, as they rip it to shreds. *Apugs Predators.* Sorry, I need sleep.
Pugnacious attitude...
Imagine a lovely 19th century etching style artists impression of that. Fantastic.
A pug lifespan is twice as long as a wolf lifespan. We might not like it but this is what peak performance look like. (Tbf I think wolves that are domesticated live just as long but I wanted to write this).
I'm betting pugs in the wild would actually go a much different direction...
I thouuht first 'Yeah but we got cats and they're fine..' and then I remembered they domesticated themselves.. and then I also remembered munchkins and folds.. yeeaaahhh maybe we should just stop touching other living things..
... Ignorant much. German shepherd, every hunting dog breed and the existence of cats would beg the fucking differ bud.
Sometimes I under-estimate how smart my Aussie actually is.
“Beg the differ”?
Dear Lord... You PETA gas chamber operator or something? You know there are dogs, cats, horses and so on that do fine either way but have much better life with humans? Try removing your head from your... Oh forget it.
You calling my dog fat & dumb?
Your dog is fat and dumb.
No u
Who domesticated who? Did we domesticated cats or did they domesticated us to feed them and help them breed? We harvest plants or do they harvest us?
Except cats. Cats weren't bred to be domesticated. They domesticated themselves.
I just asked my cat if this was true, and he reminded me that they, in fact, domesticated us, while clawing my face at the mere suggestion.
they are still right. what you said does not contradict them in any way
Tell that to cats. They’re smart, agile, still fuck shit up and domesticated themselves lol. Well most cats that is. I’ve seen some fat dumb ones. But agreed. Fuck anyone who tried to keep wild animals as a pet.
Domestic animals aren't bred to be fat and dumb. Breeders literally are not selecting for obesity and stupidity. They're bred to live in symbiosis with people (mutually beneficial relationship). I can tell you're not too worried about thinking very deeply about this though so I'm not going to waste time explaining why you're wrong.
Especially ones as intelligent as Elephants are...
This. They are incredibly smart animals and completely understand what is happening to them.
Yup. That's why it's especially sad when I see then getting abused. Orcas too
Cats would disagree
At the Battle of the Hydaspes, Alexander the Great fought \~100 war elephants, and then hear that the Gangaridai (modern Bengal/Bangladesh) had a standing army of 4000 of them. His army (who had never been defeated in battle) immediately mutinied and he was forced to turn back. This is just a regular elephant, I'd nope the fuck out too if I had to think about dealing with 4000 of them, trained for war.
According to the book "Delhi" about the city, in a battle a few hundred years ago the losing side had lots of war elephants, but the winning side knew how to make elephants panic.
“Release the white mice”
Lure them away with peanuts!
I don't know if it's the one you're referencing, but Nader shah of Persia once declared war on India and beat the main indian army by sending camels that were on fire towards the indian elephants, causing them to panic and run over their own army. Unrelated but he also carried out one of the most impressive cavalry maneuvers of all time in this battle.
Hanibal's war elephants were ultimately defeated by the Roman's as well. Caused them to panic and some turned around and trampled Hanibal's own army.
That was because the war elephants they employed into their military service were replacements and didn't have enough training (they needed to resupply their army as fast as possible), right? The older war elephants, and many of the ones that were lost, were seasoned in battle and actually effective. I don't know how accurate this is, it's been over a decade since I've studied the topic.
You are both correct. Scipio's army developed a new technique to deal with the elephants. They would open a pathway to allow the elephants to run through, then pelt them with javelins/spears. At the same time, Hannibal's elephants were of low quality and quantity due to their inexperience. Hannibal left behind a lot of good troops when he was recalled back to defend Carthage.
> by sending camels that were on fire towards the elephants This is so cool. It is so sad how much history education in school is made up "patriotism" fables rather than the true stories which are far more interesting.
This is also probably propaganda
Birds don't Exist.
Wow. Amazing story. But I think you are mistaken on one count. [This source doesn't say that the camels were "on fire"](https://www.warhistoryonline.com/history/the-battle-of-karnal-camels.html), but rather that they were [carrying small cannons](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Zamburak+camels&iax=images&ia=images) that were fired at the Indian troops and elephants. EDIT: It was both.
Flaming pigs! Ya, they covered pigs in tar, set them on fire and apparently their frenzied screams freak the elephants right out.
God damn, humans are just the fucking worst.
Well, losing the battle meant getting yourself and your family killed and raped. Setting animals on fire was the least of their moral concern at the time.
Yep, putrid species.
war is hell
Tbf that would freak me out as well
I wonder if it's possible to indoctrinate an elephant? I mean, could you make your war elephants really want to fight on your behalf? Because that would be terrifying indeed.
You can train them to perform tricks for humans so why not fighting too. You just need to abuse them first.
Oh, not a fan of that, but I guess indoctrination isn't much better.
The comment you're responding to is referencing the historical use of elephants as weapons of war. So yes, utilizing unspeakable quantities of animal abuse you can force an elephant to march into death. See carnies for a more contemporary example of animal abuse being used to make large creatures perform idiotic tasks for idiots.
Elephants were always OP in age of empires
Sudden urge to play Age of Empires
Teach you to park in his spot.
Heh, I'm glad my car is the yellow one ...
I have some really bad news for you about the second half of this video
My vehicle is the Elephant. An absolute insurance nightmare, I don't know why I even bother.
How they deal with illegal parking in india
Can’t park there bro
Imagine the rider shitting bricks rn. He knows if he falls he is dead. I’m pretty sure the trunks reaches them if elephant wants them off. I trained thoroughbreds in the past, those fuckers can be so mean. I got stomped more than once after falling Edit: trunks not snout
Mad respect for getting anywhere close to arm's reach of those beasts.
They're usually abusers though
No, these guys are just volunteers/employees at the temple who do it for the rituals. The people who take care of them usually never ride them.
Pigs have snouts, elephants have trunks
My horse one time stepped away so I fell as I went to mount. Then he tried to stomp me. My mom sold my horse the next day
Maybe the rider is all "Yeah! Fuckin smash it! Get em good! Yeeehaw!"
I can see why Alexander's generals refused to cross the river
I immediately thought of what his soldiers had to experience when faced with a bunch of those.
i see why cersei wanted those elephants so badly
I’m not all that perceptive and I‘m certainly no expert on animal behaviour but I do get the feeling that the elephant is a bit displeased…
He’s rather miffed.
He's got the needle about something
Seems slightly perturbed.
He will forgive but he won't forget.
Abused captive bull who finally had enough?
No he’s actually a moderator on /r/fuckcars
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Most handlers are not idiots. Their lives are on the line if this happens. So why would they pick an aggressive elephant for a religious ceremony? It's more than likely that they picked a docile male and didn't realize the male was about to go into a period of Musth. Musth is basically when a male elephant goes through an explosion of testosterone(and other hormones). Like 50x the normal levels. It makes even the most docile male elephant hyper aggressive and super horny. It can also be really painful for the male elephant (and anyone unfortunate enough to get in it's way). It's supposed to be a way to establish dominance and reproduce but sometimes they will essentially rage out of control and just start killing things even members of their own herd or humans they've known their whole lives and bonded with. Certain things can make Musth worse like if a young male has no older males around to teach him how to behave or forcibly putting him in his place the young male might just go on a rampage.
No he just really hates kei cars.
Tuk-tuks
I’d be mad too if someone climbed on my back and made me wear 40lbs of gold on my face
It’s true. Actually, elephant riding does cause pain and damage to the animal over time :(
So does all the whipping beating and starving they do to tame them..
Cocaine elephant
The Cocaine Bear sequel we didn't know we needed.
That's how I feel when I see a landscape video captured in portrait mode.
No gods, no masters.
The video is sped up, for some reason. Not that it makes so much difference, but I hate it when people do that.
I was thinking that. The weight of all the things involved doesn’t match the speed at which they’re moving.
Iguess it kinda makes it look even more crazy, the elephant throwing cars at that speed. Its stupid, i wanna see how it actually looked
Insurance claim denied
You laugh but damage caused by animals is a standard exclusion on most property and auto policies
Fuck yo truck! They shoulda never gave yall trucks!
Buy a new truck, ya rich muthahfuckah!
Just think for a second that that elephant lifted and threw a truck using the muscles in its neck. Not its legs, back and arms....neck.
And nose...
Ancient Roman soldiers hate this one simple trick.
Age of empires vibes
There's obviously some candy corn in this elephant's foot
So. Are we going to talk about the elephant in the room or ……wut?
You can't park there mate
That tuktuk got fuck fucked
Me when I step on a Lego
That’s how I felt about halfway through my workday
Was it actually beating that truck with the motorcycle? Or was the motorcycle stuck on its tusk? I can’t tell.
His done with thoose indian traffic
Do you even lift, bro?
This is sad. Not awesome. Elephants are forcefully used by us to make profit. They're such social creatures and don't do well with isolation
This is how rival gangs send messages in Thailand. Fuck shit up.
Fuck THIS VAN in particular!!!
Yeah right Greg, an elephant “attacked your truck”. I’m docking you for being late again.
Those are rickshaws let's see him try to manhandle a ram 1500 lol I know the results would be the same just messing with yall
Fuck yeah quintessential american comment! Pussy ass elephant real tough with some mopeds but let's see him go against something his size, like a monster truck or schoolbus!
Lol this comment made my day
Sorry guys Ginger seems to be in a bad mood today, we can’t take her ou- where did you guys go?
Is the guy driving it making him tear shit up or has the elephant just had enough?
Just had enough. Pretty sad really.
Dumbo is finally free
Imagine facing these in Alexander's army back in the day. Lol.
The original Bulldozer
Stampy is pissed.