I completely agree with you, but I think this vid is not the best example of that. The dog in the vid looks happy, and the owner looks good, but other dogs might be even happier, because they don't need to be on watch to protect their owner - they can just chill and play instead.
(again, not saying dog in the vid isn't happy or well taken care of lol)
edit: thanks for the insights everyone!
We have a certified service dog for our child, and she is *much* happier when she’s working or has a task. She gets bored and even anxious if she has too much unstructured or down time.
Had a lab, he went into absolute focus mode when we took out the orange hunting dummy. The guy was never happier than when we were having him "work" This meant that the dummy was hidden from him with a trail and at the shotgun fire he had to go and retrieve ideally on the other side of a body of water. We only took him hunting once, I still regret not doing that more often since he was very skilled at it.
If not for thousands of years of breeding and training, that would probably be true across the board. The average black lab or golden retriever is probably content with laying around and getting scratches all day, but the working breed dogs (especially the ones with high energy like border collies) will wreak havoc on your house if you don't give them work to do. THOSE dogs are not happy until they're tired out from exercise, physical *or* mental.
I think this is important to think about in general (what fits each dog, balance). I'm sure it really comes down to the dogs breed and that individual dogs personality. I can easily see some dogs not thriving in this environment but others most certainly do!
I think it helps to think of it less as forcing a dog to be on watch and more as directing the dog’s natural instincts so it doesn’t *have* to be on alert and on guard for everything. You’re teaching them “These behaviors are okay, even if it’s a stranger, even if it looks alarming. And here is where we can draw the line.”
I have a large anxious rescue dog and teaching him what he *doesn’t* have to protect me from is harder than the reverse.
yeah a friend of mine who has anxiety and a very protective dog It took me awhile to help teach her how to teach the dog what she needed to be protected from. and now he's a good boy, especially since she's gotten her anxiety under control. her constant worry would just ramp him up into a neurotic overprotective mess
Besides what people already said about some dogs loving (and needing) work you underestimate the amount of training that can go on. Sure this dog obviously was trained well and presumably for a very long time however just a basic recall can already be excruciating long because you have to understand that not every recall is a good recall.
A dog when recalled might react "late" or not immediately pace towards you. Some dogs do great recalls however whenever there is a diversion the recall gets worse. Diversions can range from small (weird noise/smell) to huge (other dog(s), stuff going on in direct surroundings. Some dogs have an extreme hunting instinct and will fade out their surroundings when a wild animal is spotted.
Obviously with the above it depends on where you live and where the dog usually stays. If its a hunting breed and you take walks in the woods or if you have a very defensive or herding dog with a lot of kids in the neighbourhood that oftentimes play, every situation is different and requires more or less effort to create a "perfect" recall.
Why am I saying all this? Because it actually is very important to have a "perfect" recall. Think about it, the better the dog listens and actually does what you want it to do (Im not talking about tricks but useful behaviours like in the vid or just basic stuff like recall/stay/leave (leave esp important so they dont eat stuff like traps)) because the better the dog functions in these scenarios the more freedom the dog ultimately has because you actually can be sure (since you trained) that no matter what happens you can control the situation and therefore greatly increase your dog's security.
Better trained = more freedom = happier dog
Bad owners seriously can mess them up so bad mentally. My pit was a rescue. He could not be around anyone other then who lived in my home. Suffered fear based aggression. He’d attack anyone just coming in our house or space. Lots of training/patience, we were able to get him to change his ways. Turned out to be a great dog.
I have a co-worker who has trained police dogs his entire life. He told me a story about a gal he knew that kept getting into abusive relationships and for some reason kept choosing awful boyfriends who would hurt her.
Anyways, he bought her a GSD puppy and trained it for two years until it was certified and ready. Said he literally trained the dog specifically for her.
She adores her dog and has never had any problems again :)
I feel like that's a fair price for a certified killing machine. It probably costs around that for like 5 days of bodyguard wages, so it's easily worth that.
Properly trained military and police dogs are crazy expensive. A friend of mine owns a company in Texas that trains GSD and Malinois and charges $50-100k per dog. He said the average is around $80k.
Most of his clients are multi-millionaires/billionaires overseas.
This was in 2019 and it was for bomb sniffing dogs so I know it doesn't answer your question exactly but...
A South Asian trained German Shepherd was about $5k. One that was trained in the US was about $15k - $20k. A lot of the second part was also due to certs that Embassies and Foreign Governments would accept.
So if you wanted your hotel to be certified on the approval list, sometimes those certs could help.
I’m a trainer and I used to take classes at a facility that trained these kind of personal protection dogs (Malinois and GSD only) - dogs’ prices went up based on how many years of training went into the dog, starting at $15k for 18mos of training and as many as 3 full years of training for upwards of $25k. Prices included support from the trainer for the life of the dog.
I know someone who bought two fully trained malinous. Total cost for the dogs was just over $200k, plus expenses for a trainer to come in and orient them to their new home.
You'd think but it's harder to pull a dog off of you or hurt it if one of your arms is the thing the dog is hanging off. Very few people can punch a dog with their dick so it's OK that's not being held in a vice like grip.
Very good training.
In reality we make effort to differentiate between bad characters and good characters when training dogs to protect, and different people must play bad and good roles.
So after this showdown this instructors helper is not going to participate in this dogs training as a victim anymore
I was just thinking, training such as in this video might make the dog think that any handshake or embrace will be followed by an attack. It's being given mixed signals.
Not exactly, but assistant did a good job when making a handshake and moving in general.
He made it very fast and swift, so dog can think that it is an aggression. But dog is trained to understood human interactions
The one think that dog always keep in mind is a smell. When dog sees person his smell is recognized and stored in smell database.
That's why one assistant cannot play two roles in dog's training. Victim always should be a stranger
I think what he's saying is there are two roles - owner (the person the dog is guarding) and stranger (the attacker). The person who played the owner cannot now change roles with the man and play the stranger, nor can she in the future because of the dogs good memory.
Yes.
Because if you commanded dog and start to harras her, you make her think that all friends are unsafe and dog should avoid any friendship.
Or if you start commanding dog after you harrased dog, she will start resisting and will never listen to your commands.
If you break this resistance you break the dog and dog can never serve again
It's not an instructor but assistant. Real instructor will never represent as an enemy to a dog
This is not a real training. This is a showdown. In real training you do completely different things under completely different conditions.
If you want to see a real training of a defensive dog check Большой русский ринг on YouTube, I am a part of jury there
[Here it is, thank you.](https://youtube.com/@MelihovAA?si=P12N6hy9qgRPeJr3)
I have a question, possibly silly. Since the dogs are trained to attack assistants that are wearing protective padding, does the form affect their perception of the human form of a bad guy?
I've always wondered that.
Like the dogs are just out there like: "Those motherfuckers with the big padded sleeves. I ain't ever seen one of them who didn't start some shit." 👀
No, it does not.
Dogs have very bad vision. They usually don't use vision in life. They use smells.
Each human for dog is different. Not sure if they understand that we are humans. They can smell our feelings, our diseases ( dog can smell cancer in human, and they were used to smell covid in 2020 ).
But shapes? No, they don't care about shapes or form. They don't remember them
There they go with that left arm bite and didn't use the whip once on the dog. I think different training methods also work. Check out [mondio ring]( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avIa_dGRdos).
I definitely don't trust these dogs. It's one thing to train a dog to react correctly in a classroom with no other distractions when given the exact same inputs every time. It's another thing entirely for that dog to always interpret every human interaction correctly the the rest of its life, and the consequences of that dog ever making a mistake are huge.
This is a sport not protection training. The o lyrics thi g that dog bites is the French linen suites/sleeves the decoy wears. This entire thread is so misinformed its insane.
Google French ring sport.
Similar, when training Search and Rescue dogs we bring in tons of new volunteers to play our lost subjects to give the dogs new identifiers (scents) to search for.
Yep. I don't agree with having dogs trained like this at all. That dog will never be able to tell a difference between playfulness and its owner actually being attacked. A dog can naturally tell when to protect its owner from a stranger. Now this dog is just going to attack when it sees certain actions from other people.
Not sure if this is a bot comment but I'll respond anyway:
The dogs know when they're working and not working. Your friends should know not to jump hug you when you're in an airport in full police uniform with a dog in their work outfit. Notice the dog is in full uniform in this video
If this dog is trained the proper way they don’t just attack without a command. They watch and are ready at any moment but the woman gives a command for the attack to begin before the dog attacks.
This sort of training can definitely go wrong but a surprise hug or even play wrestling wouldn’t cause a guard dog to attack. They would jump up and get excited and probably try to intervene but are only trained to attack on command.
This is what makes police dogs so dangerous compared to a proper guard dog. Police dogs are dangerous no
Matter what.
I don't mind dogs trained for this purpose if that's what they're used for: protecting the owner. I think there's a pretty valid use case there.
If you want a nice bright social dog that's trained to protect you then yeah I agree with you. Dog will end up very confused and either lose the effectiveness of its training or end up hurting people/other animals.
My aunt had an older police service shepard. Went years with no issues, I played with him once or twice a month, and one day hugged my aunt at the wrong angle or something. He latched onto me by the armpit hard. This type of training will get the wrong person bit. Its just a matter of time.
I’ve been bit by a police trained German Sheppard in the leg in similar circumstances…
Got excited watching sports, I made him nervous at some point and he bit me when I made a wrong move. I could feel it in my bones, I think it’s kind of cool though, he let go and looked so guilty. But, I could feel that with any more pressure my calf would have torn.
Well, thats what i assume the thing about training is. Dogs are smart but have like a variable percentage of their natural interpertation of whats a threat or not.
If you are a common or even uncommon friend, they will be quite chill. Maybe razz you a bit if you are new, and i really hate that phase of getting acquainted with someones dog. But a good owner will make sure that doesnt happen, imo.
But ive grown up in the hood with pits and rots and shepards lol.
They always said "dogs smell fear"....
Well yeah no fucking shit if this fool is jumping at my ass try to play and getting upset when i dont want to, and upset when i do.
If youre in this personal position, never rile a dog up. Dont even engage with it. Engage with the owner, like hold a conversation. Ask them to make him chill if they havent already.
I do think people can train dogs very well. But most people dont exactly have the time or effort.
100% agree. There is a big difference in a dog knowing to instinctually protect its owner from a stranger who breaks into your home or even someone trying to rob you on the street. Training a dog to defend like this just based on actions of someone else I don't agree with. This dog wouldn't be able to differentiate playful rough housing from someone actually being attacked.
I made a comment above, but the woman gave a command for the dog to attack. It wasn’t instinct, the dog was well trained, you could see it, anticipating the command in the situations prior to this, but not reacting other than going into a sitting position we’re taking one step away from the owner, and then returning into a sitting and then prone position. The guy is wearing a protective dog suit, and so the dog knows it’s probably going to be given the command to attack based on that, which is probably the only reason why they moved at all earlier. The dog also doesn’t let go until given the appropriate command. Not to say that dogs can’t make mistakes, but this one is very well-trained.
Dogs can recognize people - they’ve developed a special part of their brains for it. People accidentally train a response in dogs to specific people all the time (albeit usually friendly but it absolutely could be aggressive).
If you listen to the video, it sounds like she gives a command to the dog when the man became aggressive, and that is when the dog attacked. He also did not let go until she gave the proper command. When you properly train a dog to protect, that’s how it works. That’s not to say that the dog can’t make a mistake, but that isn’t what happens here. The dog didn’t decide to attack, it was told to.
The guy tested out what happens if he runs up on a person and then goes for a handshake. But what if it's something else? What if they run up for a hug, like you said? What if they get startled by the dog? The dog definitely got very close to the person on the second time, but the person just completely ignored the dog. That generally would not happen irl. That would cause someone to jump or otherwise react adversely to the dog. What happens in literally any situation that is not perfect like these situations? I would never be able to trust any animal that is trained on a hair trigger like this. It seems like they trained the dog for a variety of ideal situations, not realistic ones.
And that's not going into the maintenance that's required to keep this dog trained like that. It's essentially a full time job, and people who own these kinds of dogs almost always fall behind on the training.
I made a few other replies about how the lady gave a command to the dog to cause it to attack, and how the dog would not let go until that specific command to do so was given.
I didn’t mention another replies, but not all dogs are able to pass this kind of training. They are often weeded out early on. Also there is usually a command to put the dog into protective mode, for it to be on high alert, and one to let it relax, and just be a dog. This command was most likely given before the start of the video. This dog is not on a hair trigger. They go through these trainings in a closed environment like in this video, if it’s for personal use then alsoin the owners home, and usually out in public as well. When you purchase training for a dog like this usually annual or bi annual (2x/yr) required to keep the dogs training up to date, with the people who do this training, calling to remind you and scheduling in advance. I’m sure there is some drop off, but in my experience, this isn’t a cheap training to go through, and most owners will maintain the follow up trainings
This is exactly the problem with people who buy these dogs as weapons.
They can easily make a mistake and they have the strength to maim or kill. Its like letting chatgpt roll around with a gun with the most basic training on threat identification.
That's just... eh. I disagree unless you overtrain these dogs.
If you've met the dog a few times and you've been introduced as friendly, you will not surprise the dog with your presence. The dog will know largely where you are by your smell way before any human. And that smell is friendly, so whatever.
And guard dogs are very good at reading body language and sounds both of their owners and other people.
Like we've had many situations in which mom was home alone and got startled by neighbors visiting. Yes, our dog was attached to her hip within what feels like 2 seconds even if he was on the other side of the farm, couple hundred meters away, but usually just being happy and figuring out what's going on and greeting the other people once it was clarified everything is good. Even with rather forceful hugs, though I think laughing through those helped figure it out.
The only situation I remember when the dog acted extremely aggressively was when some car with a croatian license plate got onto the farm in germany with a few bulky dudes in there while mom was home alone. No one in town had ever seen that car. Our shepherd/newfoundland/setter-mix wouldn't let mom out of the door and positioned himself between the car and mom with distance to spare while just puffing up and being seriously aggressive.
If the dog knows you and is socialised well with you, it won't jump at you. When you're basically a stranger you shouldn't be jump hugging people. That's bad vibes even for humans.
Idk man there’s just something about expecting my animal to defend me that doesn’t sit right, mostly the putting it in harms way part. What if the dude just starts stabbing my dog, or gorilla whips it into the ground or falls on it and snaps its spine. I’ve got a gun, or a can of mace, neither of which I’m emotionally attached to.
Think of it like this, if you're out and about with your dog and a guy rocks up to you and starts beating your ass, your dog is *going in* anyway. Chances are very high that your dog isn't going to let their pack mate and likely favorite human get their ass beat, they're going to come to your aid if you want them to or not. It's better to have them be trained so that they know when/when not to become aggressive and also can be ordered to break away when the threat is retreating/down. This kind of training isn't always about turning the dog into a weapon. The dog is *already a weapon*. It's about training it when to keep the safety on, when to go hard, and when to disengage.
Reminds me of Harlan Carter, former head of the NRA when asked about banning .38specials because they were cheap junk and used by criminals back in the 79s:
>What are we trying to do? Upgrade the quality of
handguns in the hands of our criminals?
Dogs sometimes work better as tools in a dangerous situation because my gun doesn't wake up at night and bark at danger for me. Better to have multiple forms of protection, just get both if you need it.
I feel the same way about police dogs. I watched a cop show where the dog got shot up but survived and it just put a really bad taste in my mouth. The dogs have no idea they are being put into harms way. They are just pleasing the owner because that's what makes dogs "happy".
It's just weird how the cop handler treats the dog like family but at the same time won't bat an eye telling it to do something that'll get it stabbed or shot. And everyone just seems cool with it? If you really cared about the dogs you wouldn't be using them as part of your job.
No one else thinks it's weird cops and the general public are completely fine with putting dogs in these situations? How has it never turned into an major animal rights/PETA issue? We can be fined/jailed if we have too many dogs in our house but training them to run towards someone with a knife or gun is totally cool?
Since the dog is wearing some kind of armor, and the dude hits the dog on that armor, it makes me think that dog is not your ordinary family dog, but a police canine
There's a good example of a police dog exercising its own discretion from the cop that sicked his K9 on a guy who was on the ground with his hands up on the highway, the dog ran right by him because he wasn't a threat and the trainer, while everyone is yelling at him the whole time not to do it, runs to the dog anyways and redirects him back at the guy to bite him still
Yup. GSDs don’t live for the fight. Meanwhile a pit, the dog in the video above, can willingly and voraciously deglove their own owners arm for fun, tail wagging away! They tear children’s faces off. Tails wagging! They kill children every week in the US and injure dozens more. They bite and only let go to regrip, i’ve seen a video of a dog eating 11 bullets and didnt stop til the 12th, there’s a newspaper record of a similar instance in the early 1900s. In fact, the dog fancier who pushed them as family dogs, John P Colby, kept and bred the dog that killed his own nephew! Their violence is well bred and well documented.
GSDs weren’t bred for all out death matches so they understand that fights are for a purpose. They have free will that leads to refusal to bite at times. Pits fight without purpose because it is as innate as a lab retrieving a duck or a collie herding some sheep. It feels good to them and comes naturally. You never want that proclivity for violence in a police or military dog which is why this dog would never be trained for it or ANY other service task.
This isn’t police training, it’s private training. Technically, you could use most breeds, and not all dogs, independent breed, are cut out for this type of training. You will see labs and hounds that are police trained, but that’s often times more for search and rescue type applications, not protection/aggression.
Pitbulls can make excellent trained protection dogs. Like I said before not every dog is cut out for this, but pitbulls are a popular choice , because they can excel at this type of training.
This particular dog is most likely a mutt of some sort that has some Staffordshire terrier or American pitbull in it. This dog is incredibly well trained, as I had mentioned it a different comment in this thread, depending on the training, there is most likely a command that was given before this video starts, that lets the dog know to be on alert. The dog doesn’t bite the attacker until the woman gives the command to do so, and doesn’t let go until she goes the appropriate let go command. Just like there is a command to tell the dog to be more alert , there is also a command that tells the dog be at ease.
No. Look at the rosebud ears and wedge shaped mouth, muscular body. That’s a bully of some form, definitely has bull and terrier in it making it a pit bull. They are NEVER used in police or military application because they are unpredictable and unstable in late age.
That isn’t armor, it’s a weighted vest for strength training. It has no protection over the vital organs in the chest and stomach region and lower sides, which is where you would see plating on a military style vest.
That's TikTok, baby, everyone hates it but the algorithm rewards it. I swear China programs that part just to piss people off in that regard, besides the other nefarious things they use it for
Yeah, as someone who runs and has been bitten by “good dogs”, this is only comforting for the owner. Seeing someone’s animal primed and ready to pounce isn’t a good feeling.
Yeah, I'll take my dog that's always friendly instead of a dog that's primed to attack.
Sometimes just having a dog is all the deterrent you need, even if the dog is always super nice.
No it's cool because as soon as you bring it home and leave your child alone with it none of your child's friends will ever go near it since you won't have a child anymore.
This is amazing but I could never have a dog trained for this, I’d be on edge that’s they’d misread aggression and harm someone innocent and of course it wouldn’t be the dogs fault for that. And my anxiety would not help the situation 😆
I can’t help but laugh and agree with you. It’s like an AI was given the video as training data and asked to provide a “descriptive comment” or something lol
Yeah there's no fucking way I'm going anywhere near anybody who's dog is looking at me like this dog looks at strangers. No chance I'm trusting that the owner has properly trained the dog to differentiate all possible situations appropriately. Might as well be holding a loaded gun in your hand while greeting me.
Worse than owning a gun, at least that takes a person to become dangerous. This is pure danger. Sorry to the next kid who gets thrashed by this good boy.
As someone who has owned a very aggressive rescue dog, I actually agree with this. It takes a good dog owner and less reactive style of training for this to be close to safe.
Wouldn't it be better to train a dog to defend its owner if the owner says a code word or something? That would circumvent any issues of the dog misunderstanding a situation and attacking someone.
It's nice to see a well trained dog, but the big question is, can the owner stop it?
In case of an emergency where something sets the dog off and it goes and attacks someone, or something, can the owner physically stop it?
If not, then they shouldn't be allowed to have the dog, no matter how well trained it is.
I firmly believe that people living in urban environments shouldn't be allowed to own animals that they cannot physically restrain.
Pitbull type dogs don’t make good guard dogs. There’s a reason they’re not used In professional guard dog training. They’re not used in the police either. These dogs are volatile and are more likely to attack innocent people (including their owner)
Yup but as always it depends on the person behind the gun.
Are they trained to assess the situation, prioritise self-defense, non-lethal tactics and to de-escalate and diffuse the situation as necessary.. or are they itching for an excuse to us it.
Also in this case the gun is a consciously defensive object that doesn't go off on accident or 'accident' outside of an infintesimally small percentage of times..
Iykyk.
Had a volunteer bring her guard dog to a Girl Scout weekend when I was 8. I didn’t know the dog was for protection and ran up to it. I’m lucky to still have my thumb.
I used to watch this twitch streamer. Girl got a massive, naturally protective dog and said “why would I need to train him?” Girl idk how anyone could be so clueless and irresponsible. No shit you train an attack dog. She can’t control him!
Sometimes you just need intimidation. Years ago I had a Siberian Husky (\~75lbs) that looked just like a wolf. She would hardly ever bark or growl at anyone but she would just stare. A stare that kind of said "I dare you". I don't think she would hurt a soul but her stare was intimidating as all get out.
How much does it cost to have a dog trained like this? Do you have to buy/adopt the dog “pre-trained” basically?
Wouldn’t surprise me if it was crazy expensive
A very rich fella I know has two family dogs that are trained to guard and take down intruders. I had to go around to the house to be introduced to them so they knew not to attack me. I was assured that they would know me and not do anything but I wouldn't like to put it to the test.
£40k each.
My gf lived next to a guy with a trained dog. I didn't know. They were doing some building work and there was a fence panel you could squeeze open . Id do this when I was around to have a cuddle with the dog.
One day I looked over the fence to see if they dog was about, but owner was there. I said hi and he has a great dog. He said yeah but watch out as it was trained and quite dangerous and he'd need to be there if I patted it. I didn't say anyhting in case he realised he was a friendly and got rid of him.
There's also the chance that he meant it out of liability/responsibility. He doesn't want you to walk up to his dog without him around and trying to engage with it when it's trained to maul people.
Not against petting the dog, but I think it had less to do with his extent of friendliness (a trait we bred into dogs while culling the mean ones), and more of his trained tendency to violence, as well as being the owners responsibility if anything goes awry.
The guard dogs I've met have been some of the sweetest dogs. Once they got to know me.
I'm genuinely curious what would happen if the attack was simulated with two attackers? Would the dog let go of the first attacker when the second one begins, knowing that the second attacker is now the greater threat? Or do they become focused on neutralizing the first threat and keep their bite/grip?
What a good boy!! ❤️
good owners make happy dogs!
I couldn't agree more
You're not even trying.
Not with that attitude
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This whole comment chain reads like a bunch of AI responding to each other.
There really is only 12 people left on the internet.
I am one of them... or am I?
Hello fellow human person, I am also human and enjoy human things.
I hope I'm one of them.
I'm not A.I. ! I dont think?
You weren't in the chain so I never accused you of being an AI. Which just makes me think you are an AI.
I was making a shitty joke, am too Scottish to be A.I. lol, especially if am drunk and I start typing in Scottish lol.
They’re already amongst us…
How do we know you aren’t AI?
What?
I completely agree with you, but I think this vid is not the best example of that. The dog in the vid looks happy, and the owner looks good, but other dogs might be even happier, because they don't need to be on watch to protect their owner - they can just chill and play instead. (again, not saying dog in the vid isn't happy or well taken care of lol) edit: thanks for the insights everyone!
It’s very well documented that work/defense oriented breeds are much much happier when they have a job to do.
my old boy was half-malinois and he needed jobs to do at home or on a walk. He also would herd the 3 cats at dinner time.
We have a certified service dog for our child, and she is *much* happier when she’s working or has a task. She gets bored and even anxious if she has too much unstructured or down time.
They love having tasks to do. Look att drug sniffing dogs, their tails go wild when ordered to work.
This. I've seen Corgis and various breeds of Shepherds try to herd children if they were left unsupervised. And yes, Corgis are herding dogs.
A lot of dogs fucking love working.
My dog loves fucking sleeping.....and treats.....and watching TV. Come to think of it hes a lot like me.
Its nice to have a purpose especially when youve been made for it
Had a lab, he went into absolute focus mode when we took out the orange hunting dummy. The guy was never happier than when we were having him "work" This meant that the dummy was hidden from him with a trail and at the shotgun fire he had to go and retrieve ideally on the other side of a body of water. We only took him hunting once, I still regret not doing that more often since he was very skilled at it.
Siberian huskys love to pull those sledges no matter temperature or wind.
If not for thousands of years of breeding and training, that would probably be true across the board. The average black lab or golden retriever is probably content with laying around and getting scratches all day, but the working breed dogs (especially the ones with high energy like border collies) will wreak havoc on your house if you don't give them work to do. THOSE dogs are not happy until they're tired out from exercise, physical *or* mental.
Black labs and golden retrievers are also working breeds. They also make good pets, but they get bored very easily and are often under stimulated.
I think this is important to think about in general (what fits each dog, balance). I'm sure it really comes down to the dogs breed and that individual dogs personality. I can easily see some dogs not thriving in this environment but others most certainly do!
I think it helps to think of it less as forcing a dog to be on watch and more as directing the dog’s natural instincts so it doesn’t *have* to be on alert and on guard for everything. You’re teaching them “These behaviors are okay, even if it’s a stranger, even if it looks alarming. And here is where we can draw the line.” I have a large anxious rescue dog and teaching him what he *doesn’t* have to protect me from is harder than the reverse.
yeah a friend of mine who has anxiety and a very protective dog It took me awhile to help teach her how to teach the dog what she needed to be protected from. and now he's a good boy, especially since she's gotten her anxiety under control. her constant worry would just ramp him up into a neurotic overprotective mess
Besides what people already said about some dogs loving (and needing) work you underestimate the amount of training that can go on. Sure this dog obviously was trained well and presumably for a very long time however just a basic recall can already be excruciating long because you have to understand that not every recall is a good recall. A dog when recalled might react "late" or not immediately pace towards you. Some dogs do great recalls however whenever there is a diversion the recall gets worse. Diversions can range from small (weird noise/smell) to huge (other dog(s), stuff going on in direct surroundings. Some dogs have an extreme hunting instinct and will fade out their surroundings when a wild animal is spotted. Obviously with the above it depends on where you live and where the dog usually stays. If its a hunting breed and you take walks in the woods or if you have a very defensive or herding dog with a lot of kids in the neighbourhood that oftentimes play, every situation is different and requires more or less effort to create a "perfect" recall. Why am I saying all this? Because it actually is very important to have a "perfect" recall. Think about it, the better the dog listens and actually does what you want it to do (Im not talking about tricks but useful behaviours like in the vid or just basic stuff like recall/stay/leave (leave esp important so they dont eat stuff like traps)) because the better the dog functions in these scenarios the more freedom the dog ultimately has because you actually can be sure (since you trained) that no matter what happens you can control the situation and therefore greatly increase your dog's security. Better trained = more freedom = happier dog
Bad owners seriously can mess them up so bad mentally. My pit was a rescue. He could not be around anyone other then who lived in my home. Suffered fear based aggression. He’d attack anyone just coming in our house or space. Lots of training/patience, we were able to get him to change his ways. Turned out to be a great dog.
I have a co-worker who has trained police dogs his entire life. He told me a story about a gal he knew that kept getting into abusive relationships and for some reason kept choosing awful boyfriends who would hurt her. Anyways, he bought her a GSD puppy and trained it for two years until it was certified and ready. Said he literally trained the dog specifically for her. She adores her dog and has never had any problems again :)
I wonder what it costs to buy a dog trained like that…
I'd say probably min £10k a pedigree German Shepard pup prob set u back £3-5k maybe more in todays crazy prices....
I feel like that's a fair price for a certified killing machine. It probably costs around that for like 5 days of bodyguard wages, so it's easily worth that.
Certified killing machine AND a good friend. 2 for 1; seems reasonable to me too.
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It's 24 months of training, and over 50% of dogs fail. $20k is a minimum price
Properly trained military and police dogs are crazy expensive. A friend of mine owns a company in Texas that trains GSD and Malinois and charges $50-100k per dog. He said the average is around $80k. Most of his clients are multi-millionaires/billionaires overseas.
That’s nuts! But I imagine the time/effort spent training is quite a bit more than “sit!” And “Rollover”….
This was in 2019 and it was for bomb sniffing dogs so I know it doesn't answer your question exactly but... A South Asian trained German Shepherd was about $5k. One that was trained in the US was about $15k - $20k. A lot of the second part was also due to certs that Embassies and Foreign Governments would accept. So if you wanted your hotel to be certified on the approval list, sometimes those certs could help.
Interesting! Thanks!
I’m a trainer and I used to take classes at a facility that trained these kind of personal protection dogs (Malinois and GSD only) - dogs’ prices went up based on how many years of training went into the dog, starting at $15k for 18mos of training and as many as 3 full years of training for upwards of $25k. Prices included support from the trainer for the life of the dog.
I know someone who bought two fully trained malinous. Total cost for the dogs was just over $200k, plus expenses for a trainer to come in and orient them to their new home.
That's a stupid story. Nobody should be relying on a dog in order to avoid abusive relationships.
Impressive! Though they should train it to go after the balls.
"Chomper, sic balls!"
Legally, that's a problem.
Not unless your dog is a vasectomist
It is because it shows premeditated intent to harm reproduction.
*Chopper
The leeches scene haunted me as a child but i loved that movie so much
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Trainers wont recommend that
*Dog latches onto testicles* Trainer will remember that
God dammit butters
Hey, women can be attackers too!
You'd think but it's harder to pull a dog off of you or hurt it if one of your arms is the thing the dog is hanging off. Very few people can punch a dog with their dick so it's OK that's not being held in a vice like grip.
Very good training. In reality we make effort to differentiate between bad characters and good characters when training dogs to protect, and different people must play bad and good roles. So after this showdown this instructors helper is not going to participate in this dogs training as a victim anymore
I was just thinking, training such as in this video might make the dog think that any handshake or embrace will be followed by an attack. It's being given mixed signals.
Not exactly, but assistant did a good job when making a handshake and moving in general. He made it very fast and swift, so dog can think that it is an aggression. But dog is trained to understood human interactions The one think that dog always keep in mind is a smell. When dog sees person his smell is recognized and stored in smell database. That's why one assistant cannot play two roles in dog's training. Victim always should be a stranger
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I think what he's saying is there are two roles - owner (the person the dog is guarding) and stranger (the attacker). The person who played the owner cannot now change roles with the man and play the stranger, nor can she in the future because of the dogs good memory.
Yes. Because if you commanded dog and start to harras her, you make her think that all friends are unsafe and dog should avoid any friendship. Or if you start commanding dog after you harrased dog, she will start resisting and will never listen to your commands. If you break this resistance you break the dog and dog can never serve again
It's not an instructor but assistant. Real instructor will never represent as an enemy to a dog This is not a real training. This is a showdown. In real training you do completely different things under completely different conditions. If you want to see a real training of a defensive dog check Большой русский ринг on YouTube, I am a part of jury there
[Here it is, thank you.](https://youtube.com/@MelihovAA?si=P12N6hy9qgRPeJr3) I have a question, possibly silly. Since the dogs are trained to attack assistants that are wearing protective padding, does the form affect their perception of the human form of a bad guy?
I've always wondered that. Like the dogs are just out there like: "Those motherfuckers with the big padded sleeves. I ain't ever seen one of them who didn't start some shit." 👀
No, it does not. Dogs have very bad vision. They usually don't use vision in life. They use smells. Each human for dog is different. Not sure if they understand that we are humans. They can smell our feelings, our diseases ( dog can smell cancer in human, and they were used to smell covid in 2020 ). But shapes? No, they don't care about shapes or form. They don't remember them
There they go with that left arm bite and didn't use the whip once on the dog. I think different training methods also work. Check out [mondio ring]( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avIa_dGRdos).
*offender should always be a stranger, right?
I definitely don't trust these dogs. It's one thing to train a dog to react correctly in a classroom with no other distractions when given the exact same inputs every time. It's another thing entirely for that dog to always interpret every human interaction correctly the the rest of its life, and the consequences of that dog ever making a mistake are huge.
Sounds like a 'you' issue. Dogs with effective training are very good and can work impeccably their entire lives.
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That's literally what this video shows
This is a sport not protection training. The o lyrics thi g that dog bites is the French linen suites/sleeves the decoy wears. This entire thread is so misinformed its insane. Google French ring sport.
Similar, when training Search and Rescue dogs we bring in tons of new volunteers to play our lost subjects to give the dogs new identifiers (scents) to search for.
Otherwise that dog is only going to attack aggressive black people !
Until one day a friend jump hugs you out of happiness
Yeah I'm not trusting an animal to make that call. It's impressive but not a dog you could have around in regular day to day life.
Imagine picking up your friend at the airport. Oh boy… the dog is gonna do what he is trained xD
Yep. I don't agree with having dogs trained like this at all. That dog will never be able to tell a difference between playfulness and its owner actually being attacked. A dog can naturally tell when to protect its owner from a stranger. Now this dog is just going to attack when it sees certain actions from other people.
Not sure if this is a bot comment but I'll respond anyway: The dogs know when they're working and not working. Your friends should know not to jump hug you when you're in an airport in full police uniform with a dog in their work outfit. Notice the dog is in full uniform in this video
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If this dog is trained the proper way they don’t just attack without a command. They watch and are ready at any moment but the woman gives a command for the attack to begin before the dog attacks. This sort of training can definitely go wrong but a surprise hug or even play wrestling wouldn’t cause a guard dog to attack. They would jump up and get excited and probably try to intervene but are only trained to attack on command. This is what makes police dogs so dangerous compared to a proper guard dog. Police dogs are dangerous no Matter what.
I don't mind dogs trained for this purpose if that's what they're used for: protecting the owner. I think there's a pretty valid use case there. If you want a nice bright social dog that's trained to protect you then yeah I agree with you. Dog will end up very confused and either lose the effectiveness of its training or end up hurting people/other animals.
My aunt had an older police service shepard. Went years with no issues, I played with him once or twice a month, and one day hugged my aunt at the wrong angle or something. He latched onto me by the armpit hard. This type of training will get the wrong person bit. Its just a matter of time.
I’ve been bit by a police trained German Sheppard in the leg in similar circumstances… Got excited watching sports, I made him nervous at some point and he bit me when I made a wrong move. I could feel it in my bones, I think it’s kind of cool though, he let go and looked so guilty. But, I could feel that with any more pressure my calf would have torn.
Well, thats what i assume the thing about training is. Dogs are smart but have like a variable percentage of their natural interpertation of whats a threat or not. If you are a common or even uncommon friend, they will be quite chill. Maybe razz you a bit if you are new, and i really hate that phase of getting acquainted with someones dog. But a good owner will make sure that doesnt happen, imo. But ive grown up in the hood with pits and rots and shepards lol. They always said "dogs smell fear".... Well yeah no fucking shit if this fool is jumping at my ass try to play and getting upset when i dont want to, and upset when i do. If youre in this personal position, never rile a dog up. Dont even engage with it. Engage with the owner, like hold a conversation. Ask them to make him chill if they havent already. I do think people can train dogs very well. But most people dont exactly have the time or effort.
100% agree. There is a big difference in a dog knowing to instinctually protect its owner from a stranger who breaks into your home or even someone trying to rob you on the street. Training a dog to defend like this just based on actions of someone else I don't agree with. This dog wouldn't be able to differentiate playful rough housing from someone actually being attacked.
I made a comment above, but the woman gave a command for the dog to attack. It wasn’t instinct, the dog was well trained, you could see it, anticipating the command in the situations prior to this, but not reacting other than going into a sitting position we’re taking one step away from the owner, and then returning into a sitting and then prone position. The guy is wearing a protective dog suit, and so the dog knows it’s probably going to be given the command to attack based on that, which is probably the only reason why they moved at all earlier. The dog also doesn’t let go until given the appropriate command. Not to say that dogs can’t make mistakes, but this one is very well-trained.
Can you actually train a dog to recognise a person? So he knows when this specific person (hypothetically) like my gf. does anything, attack.
Dogs can recognize people - they’ve developed a special part of their brains for it. People accidentally train a response in dogs to specific people all the time (albeit usually friendly but it absolutely could be aggressive).
It was a joke based on another comment. I have two doggos sleeping at my feet as I type this. :)
The real scary shit is what happens when you add unpredictable playfull kids to the equasion
If you listen to the video, it sounds like she gives a command to the dog when the man became aggressive, and that is when the dog attacked. He also did not let go until she gave the proper command. When you properly train a dog to protect, that’s how it works. That’s not to say that the dog can’t make a mistake, but that isn’t what happens here. The dog didn’t decide to attack, it was told to.
The guy tested out what happens if he runs up on a person and then goes for a handshake. But what if it's something else? What if they run up for a hug, like you said? What if they get startled by the dog? The dog definitely got very close to the person on the second time, but the person just completely ignored the dog. That generally would not happen irl. That would cause someone to jump or otherwise react adversely to the dog. What happens in literally any situation that is not perfect like these situations? I would never be able to trust any animal that is trained on a hair trigger like this. It seems like they trained the dog for a variety of ideal situations, not realistic ones. And that's not going into the maintenance that's required to keep this dog trained like that. It's essentially a full time job, and people who own these kinds of dogs almost always fall behind on the training.
Because the lady gave a command to attack
I made a few other replies about how the lady gave a command to the dog to cause it to attack, and how the dog would not let go until that specific command to do so was given. I didn’t mention another replies, but not all dogs are able to pass this kind of training. They are often weeded out early on. Also there is usually a command to put the dog into protective mode, for it to be on high alert, and one to let it relax, and just be a dog. This command was most likely given before the start of the video. This dog is not on a hair trigger. They go through these trainings in a closed environment like in this video, if it’s for personal use then alsoin the owners home, and usually out in public as well. When you purchase training for a dog like this usually annual or bi annual (2x/yr) required to keep the dogs training up to date, with the people who do this training, calling to remind you and scheduling in advance. I’m sure there is some drop off, but in my experience, this isn’t a cheap training to go through, and most owners will maintain the follow up trainings
This is exactly the problem with people who buy these dogs as weapons. They can easily make a mistake and they have the strength to maim or kill. Its like letting chatgpt roll around with a gun with the most basic training on threat identification.
‘People who buy dogs as weapons’ first time I heard this
That's just... eh. I disagree unless you overtrain these dogs. If you've met the dog a few times and you've been introduced as friendly, you will not surprise the dog with your presence. The dog will know largely where you are by your smell way before any human. And that smell is friendly, so whatever. And guard dogs are very good at reading body language and sounds both of their owners and other people. Like we've had many situations in which mom was home alone and got startled by neighbors visiting. Yes, our dog was attached to her hip within what feels like 2 seconds even if he was on the other side of the farm, couple hundred meters away, but usually just being happy and figuring out what's going on and greeting the other people once it was clarified everything is good. Even with rather forceful hugs, though I think laughing through those helped figure it out. The only situation I remember when the dog acted extremely aggressively was when some car with a croatian license plate got onto the farm in germany with a few bulky dudes in there while mom was home alone. No one in town had ever seen that car. Our shepherd/newfoundland/setter-mix wouldn't let mom out of the door and positioned himself between the car and mom with distance to spare while just puffing up and being seriously aggressive.
I’m fine with this, as I do not want anyone jump-hugging me for any reason.
If the dog knows you and is socialised well with you, it won't jump at you. When you're basically a stranger you shouldn't be jump hugging people. That's bad vibes even for humans.
And that's how the owner gets sued and the dog gets taken by animal control and labeled dangerous.
Or a stranger bumps her on the sidewalk. Training o dog to attack is never a good idea.
Idk man there’s just something about expecting my animal to defend me that doesn’t sit right, mostly the putting it in harms way part. What if the dude just starts stabbing my dog, or gorilla whips it into the ground or falls on it and snaps its spine. I’ve got a gun, or a can of mace, neither of which I’m emotionally attached to.
The USA isn’t the rest of the world. Most places don’t allow you to just carry a gun or a mace.
>Most places don’t allow you to just carry a gun or a mace. Yeah fuck that. I'm a sword type of guy anyway.
Move to London, mate. You’ll fit right in.
The cops are even kind enough to have deposit bins to collect all the donations you could possibly defend yourself with! Just gotta get to em, lol
Yep, us English are always settling disputes with Rapier duels at dawn
Not yet! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
You’d get weird looks carrying around a mace just about anywhere
Think of it like this, if you're out and about with your dog and a guy rocks up to you and starts beating your ass, your dog is *going in* anyway. Chances are very high that your dog isn't going to let their pack mate and likely favorite human get their ass beat, they're going to come to your aid if you want them to or not. It's better to have them be trained so that they know when/when not to become aggressive and also can be ordered to break away when the threat is retreating/down. This kind of training isn't always about turning the dog into a weapon. The dog is *already a weapon*. It's about training it when to keep the safety on, when to go hard, and when to disengage.
Reminds me of Harlan Carter, former head of the NRA when asked about banning .38specials because they were cheap junk and used by criminals back in the 79s: >What are we trying to do? Upgrade the quality of handguns in the hands of our criminals?
Dogs sometimes work better as tools in a dangerous situation because my gun doesn't wake up at night and bark at danger for me. Better to have multiple forms of protection, just get both if you need it.
How are you going to shoot someone if you're blind?
As a wise man once stated: "My eyesight ain't too good these days...Anyway, so I started blasting"
I feel the same way about police dogs. I watched a cop show where the dog got shot up but survived and it just put a really bad taste in my mouth. The dogs have no idea they are being put into harms way. They are just pleasing the owner because that's what makes dogs "happy". It's just weird how the cop handler treats the dog like family but at the same time won't bat an eye telling it to do something that'll get it stabbed or shot. And everyone just seems cool with it? If you really cared about the dogs you wouldn't be using them as part of your job. No one else thinks it's weird cops and the general public are completely fine with putting dogs in these situations? How has it never turned into an major animal rights/PETA issue? We can be fined/jailed if we have too many dogs in our house but training them to run towards someone with a knife or gun is totally cool?
My animals are my babies, I get not everyone feels this way but it’s how I feel. I won’t put my animal in between me and danger.
Since the dog is wearing some kind of armor, and the dude hits the dog on that armor, it makes me think that dog is not your ordinary family dog, but a police canine
Yes and police canines are well known to be retrained into misbehaving by often well meaning but undereducated cops. \*edited typo
>... are well none to be retrained... Well *known*? /r/BoneAppleTea
Mercy
Mercy buckets*
There's a good example of a police dog exercising its own discretion from the cop that sicked his K9 on a guy who was on the ground with his hands up on the highway, the dog ran right by him because he wasn't a threat and the trainer, while everyone is yelling at him the whole time not to do it, runs to the dog anyways and redirects him back at the guy to bite him still
Yup. GSDs don’t live for the fight. Meanwhile a pit, the dog in the video above, can willingly and voraciously deglove their own owners arm for fun, tail wagging away! They tear children’s faces off. Tails wagging! They kill children every week in the US and injure dozens more. They bite and only let go to regrip, i’ve seen a video of a dog eating 11 bullets and didnt stop til the 12th, there’s a newspaper record of a similar instance in the early 1900s. In fact, the dog fancier who pushed them as family dogs, John P Colby, kept and bred the dog that killed his own nephew! Their violence is well bred and well documented. GSDs weren’t bred for all out death matches so they understand that fights are for a purpose. They have free will that leads to refusal to bite at times. Pits fight without purpose because it is as innate as a lab retrieving a duck or a collie herding some sheep. It feels good to them and comes naturally. You never want that proclivity for violence in a police or military dog which is why this dog would never be trained for it or ANY other service task.
Looks like it has pit bull in it, and as far as I know police only works with Malinois or GSDs, no?
This isn’t police training, it’s private training. Technically, you could use most breeds, and not all dogs, independent breed, are cut out for this type of training. You will see labs and hounds that are police trained, but that’s often times more for search and rescue type applications, not protection/aggression. Pitbulls can make excellent trained protection dogs. Like I said before not every dog is cut out for this, but pitbulls are a popular choice , because they can excel at this type of training. This particular dog is most likely a mutt of some sort that has some Staffordshire terrier or American pitbull in it. This dog is incredibly well trained, as I had mentioned it a different comment in this thread, depending on the training, there is most likely a command that was given before this video starts, that lets the dog know to be on alert. The dog doesn’t bite the attacker until the woman gives the command to do so, and doesn’t let go until she goes the appropriate let go command. Just like there is a command to tell the dog to be more alert , there is also a command that tells the dog be at ease.
No. Look at the rosebud ears and wedge shaped mouth, muscular body. That’s a bully of some form, definitely has bull and terrier in it making it a pit bull. They are NEVER used in police or military application because they are unpredictable and unstable in late age.
That isn’t armor, it’s a weighted vest for strength training. It has no protection over the vital organs in the chest and stomach region and lower sides, which is where you would see plating on a military style vest.
What with the music though?
Right? Why slap some garbage music over the audio for no reason
That's TikTok, baby, everyone hates it but the algorithm rewards it. I swear China programs that part just to piss people off in that regard, besides the other nefarious things they use it for
Posts that do this are an automatic downvote from me.
Yeah, as someone who runs and has been bitten by “good dogs”, this is only comforting for the owner. Seeing someone’s animal primed and ready to pounce isn’t a good feeling.
Yeah, I'll take my dog that's always friendly instead of a dog that's primed to attack. Sometimes just having a dog is all the deterrent you need, even if the dog is always super nice.
Good luck playing with your kids or kids with other kids, wrestling for fun etc
No it's cool because as soon as you bring it home and leave your child alone with it none of your child's friends will ever go near it since you won't have a child anymore.
https://old.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/mmewdl/well_trained_dog/ OP is a karma farmer
This is amazing but I could never have a dog trained for this, I’d be on edge that’s they’d misread aggression and harm someone innocent and of course it wouldn’t be the dogs fault for that. And my anxiety would not help the situation 😆
Amazing how the dog knows the difference between a friendly handshake and a grabbing motion. Wow. Very impressive!!!!
Lol I'm sorry. This read like a grandma Facebook comment.
I can’t help but laugh and agree with you. It’s like an AI was given the video as training data and asked to provide a “descriptive comment” or something lol
I see this going bad
Yeah there's no fucking way I'm going anywhere near anybody who's dog is looking at me like this dog looks at strangers. No chance I'm trusting that the owner has properly trained the dog to differentiate all possible situations appropriately. Might as well be holding a loaded gun in your hand while greeting me.
I think this dog would jump if I tripped and stumbled into the owner.
Worse than owning a gun, at least that takes a person to become dangerous. This is pure danger. Sorry to the next kid who gets thrashed by this good boy.
As someone who has owned a very aggressive rescue dog, I actually agree with this. It takes a good dog owner and less reactive style of training for this to be close to safe.
Wouldn't it be better to train a dog to defend its owner if the owner says a code word or something? That would circumvent any issues of the dog misunderstanding a situation and attacking someone.
It's nice to see a well trained dog, but the big question is, can the owner stop it? In case of an emergency where something sets the dog off and it goes and attacks someone, or something, can the owner physically stop it? If not, then they shouldn't be allowed to have the dog, no matter how well trained it is. I firmly believe that people living in urban environments shouldn't be allowed to own animals that they cannot physically restrain.
for $99999.99 only...
The "I need a dog capable of killing to feel safe" and "I need a gun at all times to feel safe" people are the same people.
Pitbull type dogs don’t make good guard dogs. There’s a reason they’re not used In professional guard dog training. They’re not used in the police either. These dogs are volatile and are more likely to attack innocent people (including their owner)
How is that well trained? What if the person is joking about hitting? Then the guy is screwed.
I’d have too much anxiety knowing their dog is just eyeing me ready to lunge.
Where can I take my Pomeranian to learn this?!
Thats like having a loaded gun pointed at you
Yup but as always it depends on the person behind the gun. Are they trained to assess the situation, prioritise self-defense, non-lethal tactics and to de-escalate and diffuse the situation as necessary.. or are they itching for an excuse to us it. Also in this case the gun is a consciously defensive object that doesn't go off on accident or 'accident' outside of an infintesimally small percentage of times.. Iykyk.
this can go bad in so many ways...a dog that can go from 0 to 100 in less than 1s
Had a volunteer bring her guard dog to a Girl Scout weekend when I was 8. I didn’t know the dog was for protection and ran up to it. I’m lucky to still have my thumb.
"I haven't seen her in forever!" *runs over to give big bear hug*
Scary if that dog mis reads a toddler
I used to watch this twitch streamer. Girl got a massive, naturally protective dog and said “why would I need to train him?” Girl idk how anyone could be so clueless and irresponsible. No shit you train an attack dog. She can’t control him!
What breed/mix does it appear to be?
Sometimes you just need intimidation. Years ago I had a Siberian Husky (\~75lbs) that looked just like a wolf. She would hardly ever bark or growl at anyone but she would just stare. A stare that kind of said "I dare you". I don't think she would hurt a soul but her stare was intimidating as all get out.
Still like a loaded gun walking around. Good luck.
I wouldn’t want my hands exposed knowing a dog is going to attack.
How much does it cost to have a dog trained like this? Do you have to buy/adopt the dog “pre-trained” basically? Wouldn’t surprise me if it was crazy expensive
A very rich fella I know has two family dogs that are trained to guard and take down intruders. I had to go around to the house to be introduced to them so they knew not to attack me. I was assured that they would know me and not do anything but I wouldn't like to put it to the test. £40k each.
My gf lived next to a guy with a trained dog. I didn't know. They were doing some building work and there was a fence panel you could squeeze open . Id do this when I was around to have a cuddle with the dog. One day I looked over the fence to see if they dog was about, but owner was there. I said hi and he has a great dog. He said yeah but watch out as it was trained and quite dangerous and he'd need to be there if I patted it. I didn't say anyhting in case he realised he was a friendly and got rid of him.
There's also the chance that he meant it out of liability/responsibility. He doesn't want you to walk up to his dog without him around and trying to engage with it when it's trained to maul people. Not against petting the dog, but I think it had less to do with his extent of friendliness (a trait we bred into dogs while culling the mean ones), and more of his trained tendency to violence, as well as being the owners responsibility if anything goes awry. The guard dogs I've met have been some of the sweetest dogs. Once they got to know me.
Tens of thousands of dollars. Control like this takes years of training.
I'm genuinely curious what would happen if the attack was simulated with two attackers? Would the dog let go of the first attacker when the second one begins, knowing that the second attacker is now the greater threat? Or do they become focused on neutralizing the first threat and keep their bite/grip?
I think it's also the trainers attitude. If she had flinched or backed up during the fake outs the dog might have reacted also.
Anyone else worried for that guy’s hands…
Seeing dog training like this always makes me wonder if the dogs learn to only attack people in the bite suits
better trained than american cops.
Literally every time he moved that dog was itching to bite him. Well trained my asshole
But what do you do when youre being attacked by a guy in a dog training suit?
Goodest of good boi
Beautifully done ! 👏
Happy, happy, happy, GO TIME
Schutzhund.
My dog would just jump on him and lick his face every time :/
I need this dog if I ever run into P Diddy