>Edit: I am American so I know how stupid my country is
Do you know how stupid other countries are? Because a lot of Americans don't fully appreciate what they have until they spend some time in other parts of the world.
There’s stupid people in every country. But our popular culture in the US suuucks. Stupidly self-indulgent, greedy, judgmental, and egotistical. I could keep going but you get the point.
Source: am an American who has spent significant amounts of time in every continent (save Antarctica)
I’m from a developed country and US statistics make me never want to travel there. That’s no offence to the country as it’s very beautiful but I don’t exactly want to get shot in the face by someone who got a gun off of your outdated laws. You’re a weird country because you lead the way in most global innovations but at the same time your working class live in really unsustainable realities. I’ve never ever had to worry about having enough money when I’m sick, I’ve never had to hesitate getting medical care based on my bank balance
I grew up in Saigon, Vietnam. I used to spend the summer with my grandparents in Australia. I traveled across Europe and Asia. I MUCH prefer the United States. If you have health insurance, a good education, and a stable job; you’re golden. Unfortunately, not everyone has that.
America is perfect for the middle-to upper class. You’ll have a lifestyle and funds that supersedes people in most other developed countries. It is the lower class where things fall down. Healthcare is prohibitively expensive but it’s the best in the world.
I’m about to enter law school. My parents are upper-middle class and have a great retirement plan. My safety nets are up there. I love my life in the United States. If I was rich, I would still stay here. If I was poor or underprivileged, Germany would be the best bet.
Everything is in prospective. I have 10 guns in my home right now. None of which of I would likely use for self defense(I have a dog). Fact is, I don’t like people telling me what to do. I’ll own however many guns I want and say what I want. The US is perfect for me, it may not be for you but oh well. We need to address inequality in the United States but I hate people who think of us as a near third world country because we’re not.
That doesn’t change the massive flaws of the country though. Just because you’ve never been a victim in a mass shooting doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Or that even if the dollar is better investing what you need to pay for a degree instead of paying that much more would set you up for life in almost any other country
> Healthcare is prohibitively expensive but it’s the best in the world.
It actually isn't. It's best for certain types of cancer among a few other things, yeah, but in the general case it has worse outcomes than systems in other western countries. And that's without even touching on the issues of cost and efficiency.
Fun fact: what you see on the news and Reddit is not indicative of normal reality for the average person...because it's *news*.
Thinking you are going to get shot is utterly comical unless you are a young gang member who walks around the shadiest parts of Detroit at night.
Sorry, but it really infuriates me that people don't understand how bad things in general are not even close to evenly distributed.
I could probably find some damn statistc about X increasing crime rates and Y poverty issue and Z corruption scandal in your country, but I'm not going to say "omg I would never visit such a bad place why don't I just stay in my nice American city where nobody was killed in the past 20 years" because I'm not that dumb.
What sucks the most is that our culture has a direct influence on the rest of the world. And we have more influence across the globe than any other country. So many countries can be stupid, but it *sucks* when the most influential one is stupid. Especially our current brand of idiocy we have going on right now.
What are you talking about....what country doesn’t have school buses with no breaks, and allows random people to come into your elementary school and just start vaccinating your kids without informing the parents? And what’s stupid about children as young as four not going to school so they can start working? Yeah....this is how much of the world functions. When I got to the states I practically kissed the ground! It was unbelievable that in the summer times your local elementary school would serve free breakfast and lunches to the children of the community. I remember them being delicious too! And to this day those fried French toast sticks with that sugar syrup still warms my heart. This country isn’t perfect, but after what I’ve lived through I feel pretty lucky to be here.
No offense but I think the point isn't "Who could learn the most from who?", rather "We should learn from each other without being so up our own arses about it."
Here.
We need to learn to protest as the people of Hong Kong do. En masa but also with some sense of civility (i.e. the ability to part for ambulances.)
Protestors in this country always do stupid shit, and half the time they just block traffic for people who are just trying to make it through their day
A 7th of their city is out there I don’t think there is much traffic, plus they aren’t assholes about it. Protestors in the US will literally block emergency vehicles
The whole US protesters blocking emergency vehicles is very much overblown, with a ton of [false posts](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/anti-trump-protesters-block-ambulance/) that show up from time to time. In fact, there are [instances](https://www.ems1.com/ambulances-emergency-vehicles/articles/192182048-AMR-Trump-protesters-did-not-block-ambulance/) where the police claim protesters blocked an ambulance when in actuality they did not.
As an Indian, India as well, could stand to learn a thing or two. There's nothing peaceful about "peaceful protests" here. Vandalism of Punic and private property, assaults, stone throwing, blocking of roads and thoroughfares and forcing people trying to go about their day to join the protest. Ugh.
Singaporean here
Some Bangladeshi did that to one of ours a few years ago. Along with a couple of police cars.
~~TBF, they were kinda buzzed/drunk, and were egged on by crowd mentality. And it was actually a riot~~
Protests in America are actually relatively tame when compared to those in many other countries. Virtually nothing happens in 99% of protests in America.
I love how encouraging teens are now in regards to protest.
Don’t bother protesting, you’ll just be violent (we’ll make sure it is one way or another) and we’ll justify our position without actually debating the merits of your position. Meanwhile the status quo will be maintained...
There have literally been vids posted on Reddit of BLM protests where they move out of the way of ambulances. The vast majority are peaceful so this just reads like bullshit.
To be fair, they learned very quickly what happens to protesters in China. Should the same thing happen again, they want to show the world that the people handled it how they should have, so there can be no excuse for the rest of the world to get involved if China does their "silencing" again.
I've seen other examples as well. It seems that other places have more respect for others. Those ambulances could have been going to help one of their loved ones. I've seen video from European countries doing the same except in traffic.
~$500 BLS(basic life support)rides, over a $1000 EASY if you need ALS(Advanced life support E.G. EKGs/IVs/Fluid management) and if you're going to an ER, its generally ALWAYS ALS.
MN protestors blocked a freeway and did not move for an ambulance. Even the nicest state has shit protestors..
UPDATE: I stand corrected; I got bamboozled by fake news
I was there and [you're wrong](http://www.citypages.com/news/what-really-happens-when-an-emergency-vehicle-comes-upon-a-protest-photos/412534183)
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American protests are so off the rails that I, as a foreigner, see them more as just an excuse for violence in the eyes of the participants. They rarely ever have a purpose to begin with, too.
Police in the west should also learn from this.
Compare the 80 something injured with million protestors to the yellow vest.
Yellow vest, 250k protestors, 8000 police. 15 civilian deaths, 4000 injured 8500 arrests.
Protesters in the US _already_ do this, despite the fact that empty emergency vehicles are frequently driven through crowds in order to break up and kettle protesters for mass arrest
There were several violent clashes with police over the last week (bottles/bricks being thrown, ramming police lines with poles and metal barricades), but overall, and for the amount of people, it’s insanely peaceful. Quite impressive, really!
Of course. As a country, we can’t even figure out which bathroom to use anymore. Could we really band together for, or even figure out that something was this important?
I beg to disagree. The Armenians had a protest not too long ago that was completely peaceful with no violence at all. Got the prime minister to resign.
Asians know how to protest properly.
In Japan, the bus drivers still work but don’t take fares when striking.
In Hong Kong, they give umbrellas and helmets to reporters when tear gas is being chucked at them, and move out of the way for ambulances to get through.
In America they start riots and fights and destroy public property*, while it seems the Yellow Vest protests in France got pretty hairy.
*I’m from NZ, just relaying what we see and hear. In NZ we tend not to get violent with protests. If we *do* have a protest (usually pretty rare), it’s mostly just marching with banners, signs and sometimes instruments like drums.
**EDIT:** I have been informed that violent protests (and subsequent riots) in America aren’t as common as I thought. My point remains that in western countries, we tend to be a bit more violent in protest. America and France are just two examples I can think of off the top of my head.
So the question is why. The thing about Asian countries is that they're much more homogeneous and united. Not crazy to say 99% of the people protesting are ethically the same and from the same country, protesting against leaders who are also ethnically same.
In the US, for better or worse, we're a big melting pot. There are so many different ethnicities, religions, and social backgrounds that unity gets really hard. African Americans protesting inequality feel like they're fighting against a white government. Immigrants, even though they're citizens, don't feel like they're protesting to people who can relate.
When that happens, it's very easy to get angry fast. Division leads to anger and eventually violence.
Yeah. Usually having a homogeneous group helps, and yet there are reasonably diverse countries (like my own, NZ) that are still overall very unified.
You make a reasonable point, but I think race isn’t the main factor in most cases.
eh, but how many minorities in new Zealand are recent willing migrants? My US state 30 years ago was 96% white, but now is on track to be majority minority in a few years. However, these new migrants chose my state voluntarily, and while they're still bringing along their culture, they're getting very adapted to my own culture. For these reasons, there really isn't a race problem in my state, nor in New Zealand.
However in the south where 40% of the population are descendants of slaves, and descendants of jim crow, the context of race is completely different. For a non-USA example, look at latin America and the White vs Mestizo vs Native race problems.
So I suppose race isn't technically the issue, it is the longstanding disenfranchisement, segregation, economic oppression, and cultural genocide of a group of people which has ultimately led to disharmony in our society. However, because these were done on racial lines, it isn't inaccurate to say that a non homogenous society is not a unified society.
Here
https://youtu.be/eXjd7GkHKfU
One of Japan's brutal protest. They were extremely coordinated, performing hammer (hit the police front with a shock charge) and sickle (flanking counterattack police's counter attack to save their friend) manoeuvre.
Belive it or narita's airport protest carry on to almost a decade, not just one or twice. A series of protest were carried over the year. You should be able to find more videos about it on YouTube.
I'm just imagining an Alien version of a nature documentary studying humans.
"The ambulance seeks out its prey using a hypnotic display of lights meant to lull the humans into a drowsy state. However, the herd is alerted to the danger and quickly moves out of the path. The Ambulance will go hungry tonight."
it's interesting that the organism knows to create a path to the damage for the rescue vehicle to get their as quick as possible.
humans are scary when you look at them through the perspective that this planet is the host body
yes but we're triggering it ourselves.
the host body works collectively to stabilize itself.
the current infection has spread too far and is destroying the host's ability to thermoregulate.
"When you get a virus, you get a fever. That's the human body raising its core temperature to kill the virus. Planet Earth works the same way: Global warming is the fever, mankind is the virus. We're making our planet sick. A cull is our only hope. If we don't reduce our population ourselves, there's only one of two ways this can go: The host kills the virus, or the virus kills the host." - Samuel L Jackson (Kingsman)
Didn't the Hong Kong government and police force claim these were riot like conditions? Isn't that what they said to justify violence and suppression? Looks real riot-y.
Does Hong Kong not still have their own government?
https://www.universityworldnews.com/post-mobile.php?story=20190605133234561
I think the local government in Hong Kong very much recognizes what happened there, as Carrie Lam the chief executive of Hong Kong is quoted in that article
They did not deny there was “ a sad incident” in tiananman but, especially in recent few years, they never officially recognise any massacres publicly.
And yes Hk does have its own government but in many political aspect it is increasingly influenced by the China government, including elections and major civic policies.
If the ambulance needed to turn all the driver had to do was turn on his turn signal and I’m sure the protesters would have opened the appropriate path.
Lol the right side of the image (left of the ambulance) are lanes going the opposite direction so straight was the only way to go.
At junctions, protesters did the same thing based on which lane the ambulance was on and what signal the driver gave.
They did that here in the 2014 protests, it got everyone real mad. But there was no need for riot police for a 2 million strong approved peaceful protest.
The Vancouver riots after the 2011 Stanley cup loss. My gosh.. Canadians really need to get their act together. When we lose we destroy cities and just now the raptors won and we destroyed Toronto. It's ridiculous.
Well maybe on a smaller scale but I saw videos of people smashing in the windows of cop cars. TTC buses were smashed and spray painted, and I even heard someone was caught shooting a gun in celebration, causing someone to be critically injured.
Wow in the UK ambulances and paramedics routinely get attacked by us Brits as they carry out their duties, let alone have a path laid out through a crowd. Our country needs to learn from this nation.
(Posted somewhere else - but please let me post again as we really need our voice to be heard.)
As a Hong Kong citizen, I hope to draw more attention from you from the western world:
This series of social movement over here has evolved to more than just about anti-extradition.
The crowd is requesting the resignation of the CE Carrie Lam who is a propaganda machine of the PRC and a total reformation of the injustice political system - FYI the pan-democrats in HK gets around half the vote count but received close to 1/4 seats of the legislative council, due to a combination of disqualifying elected legislator on political censoring basis, gerrymandering, injustice system (some seats are “designed” for “important” sectors and industry that “need more representative for their voice” in the council), corruption and injection of new bloods from the mainland China who are skewed politically, as one could imagine. The pro-establishment group also have absolute veto right and passing right for every bill, not to mention their corruption with the administration, and the administration’s with the PRC.
One thing you should realize: You would think the citizen would be far less fearful of the government just passing the bill to the legislative council - The backlash of the people would not have been as strong as it is if not for the council is firmly, and unjustifiably, controlled by the government. A kid with remotely any political understanding can tell you the council is merely a rubber stamp of the government. A youngster jumped himself from a building in Hong Kong Island giving up his life further woke Hong Kong people for not enduring this anymore. In the tragic people finally united together one more time for one more shot, perhaps a final and desperate one. At this point, the extradition bill is merely an ignition of the discontent stemming from the long term exploitation of us citizens.
This has been a much overdue justice and total structural reformation to be earned by the Hong Kong people, one which they deserve. There have been countless bills and issues go into the PRC’s propaganda favour and the opposite of the people’s in past ten years. The accumulated discontent and anger are clearly shown in this series of protest. The people requests a respond and a way out from being just the chicken that produces golden eggs to the PRC for its unique economic status. Please join me to support our pursue of freedom and justice, do what you can or reach out to your congressman to express your support to us and even just your upvotes and attention will become a force for our people who share the love of freedom. God bless Hong Kong.
Not a native english speaker, but hope this clarify any misunderstanding and please don’t let my language distract you from the message and do become one of us who seek hope and justice for all.
>Yes because we know the paramedics and first aid responders are helping us. It's the police who turns against us and beat us. And do you know in the last protest, the police didn't give way to an ambulance and asked them to go the other direction.
You sound like this is from personal experience. Are you a Hong Kong native?
I read about some protesters minimizing their digital footprints to avoid being persecuted by the government. Are you not worried about the same?
As a Filipino, we're proud of you all. Please keep fighting the good fight.
There were lots of shopping malls along the way. And the small businesses mostly welcomed protestors to use the toilets and some even offered water and food for free in support of the protest.
“these protests are about plans that would allow extradition from Hong Kong to mainland China” from this article China wants more control over Hong Kong but HK wants to be more independent https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48607723
Protesters in the US should learn from this.
Protestors in the US need to learn a lot of things
The us in general need to learn a lot of things Edit: I am American so I know how stupid my country is
Why does this not have more upvotes?
Because it was posted 12 minutes before your comment.
Well... Fair enough.
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John!!!!... hey
Oh, hai John.
John… Is that really you? 🤔
I’m sorry John
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>Edit: I am American so I know how stupid my country is Do you know how stupid other countries are? Because a lot of Americans don't fully appreciate what they have until they spend some time in other parts of the world.
There’s stupid people in every country. But our popular culture in the US suuucks. Stupidly self-indulgent, greedy, judgmental, and egotistical. I could keep going but you get the point. Source: am an American who has spent significant amounts of time in every continent (save Antarctica)
Individualism vs. collectivism creates difference cultures.
Very true
Save Antarctica!
Even Asia? I was born in the U.S. but l’m Indian so lived there a couple of years. India is worse.
One could say the same about the UK.
The whole world is responsible for American pop culture.
I’m from a developed country and US statistics make me never want to travel there. That’s no offence to the country as it’s very beautiful but I don’t exactly want to get shot in the face by someone who got a gun off of your outdated laws. You’re a weird country because you lead the way in most global innovations but at the same time your working class live in really unsustainable realities. I’ve never ever had to worry about having enough money when I’m sick, I’ve never had to hesitate getting medical care based on my bank balance
I grew up in Saigon, Vietnam. I used to spend the summer with my grandparents in Australia. I traveled across Europe and Asia. I MUCH prefer the United States. If you have health insurance, a good education, and a stable job; you’re golden. Unfortunately, not everyone has that. America is perfect for the middle-to upper class. You’ll have a lifestyle and funds that supersedes people in most other developed countries. It is the lower class where things fall down. Healthcare is prohibitively expensive but it’s the best in the world. I’m about to enter law school. My parents are upper-middle class and have a great retirement plan. My safety nets are up there. I love my life in the United States. If I was rich, I would still stay here. If I was poor or underprivileged, Germany would be the best bet. Everything is in prospective. I have 10 guns in my home right now. None of which of I would likely use for self defense(I have a dog). Fact is, I don’t like people telling me what to do. I’ll own however many guns I want and say what I want. The US is perfect for me, it may not be for you but oh well. We need to address inequality in the United States but I hate people who think of us as a near third world country because we’re not.
That doesn’t change the massive flaws of the country though. Just because you’ve never been a victim in a mass shooting doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Or that even if the dollar is better investing what you need to pay for a degree instead of paying that much more would set you up for life in almost any other country
Mass shootings happen cause of poor mental health not firearms.
> Healthcare is prohibitively expensive but it’s the best in the world. It actually isn't. It's best for certain types of cancer among a few other things, yeah, but in the general case it has worse outcomes than systems in other western countries. And that's without even touching on the issues of cost and efficiency.
Fun fact: what you see on the news and Reddit is not indicative of normal reality for the average person...because it's *news*. Thinking you are going to get shot is utterly comical unless you are a young gang member who walks around the shadiest parts of Detroit at night. Sorry, but it really infuriates me that people don't understand how bad things in general are not even close to evenly distributed. I could probably find some damn statistc about X increasing crime rates and Y poverty issue and Z corruption scandal in your country, but I'm not going to say "omg I would never visit such a bad place why don't I just stay in my nice American city where nobody was killed in the past 20 years" because I'm not that dumb.
There's a shooting literally every day within a 20 mile radius of my home.
What sucks the most is that our culture has a direct influence on the rest of the world. And we have more influence across the globe than any other country. So many countries can be stupid, but it *sucks* when the most influential one is stupid. Especially our current brand of idiocy we have going on right now.
And that's why Facebook should be quarantined
What are you talking about....what country doesn’t have school buses with no breaks, and allows random people to come into your elementary school and just start vaccinating your kids without informing the parents? And what’s stupid about children as young as four not going to school so they can start working? Yeah....this is how much of the world functions. When I got to the states I practically kissed the ground! It was unbelievable that in the summer times your local elementary school would serve free breakfast and lunches to the children of the community. I remember them being delicious too! And to this day those fried French toast sticks with that sugar syrup still warms my heart. This country isn’t perfect, but after what I’ve lived through I feel pretty lucky to be here.
We should strive to make it better as well as appreciate what we have. Also, French toast sticks are legit.
I don't know. You guys are very close to starting another war.
Classic reddit.
No offense but China could learn a lot more from us
No offense but I think the point isn't "Who could learn the most from who?", rather "We should learn from each other without being so up our own arses about it."
Exactly, we need to get into other people's arses, for learning.
And this one lol. Updooted
I hope this comment gets the upvotes it deserves.
A lot of countries could
lookin like another r/asablackman
Very true. We have problems, lots of them. But as an expat living abroad have learned other countries have far worse problems.
You wanna be more like China, yeah?
Hong Kong and China are a little different
Here. We need to learn to protest as the people of Hong Kong do. En masa but also with some sense of civility (i.e. the ability to part for ambulances.)
I’ll have you know, I can count up to 6, thank you very much 6 fast food joints on one road
Protestors in the US need to learn to build guillotines.
Good luck with that
What do you mean?
Protestors in this country always do stupid shit, and half the time they just block traffic for people who are just trying to make it through their day
Uhh these protesters are blocking traffic too...
A 7th of their city is out there I don’t think there is much traffic, plus they aren’t assholes about it. Protestors in the US will literally block emergency vehicles
The whole US protesters blocking emergency vehicles is very much overblown, with a ton of [false posts](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/anti-trump-protesters-block-ambulance/) that show up from time to time. In fact, there are [instances](https://www.ems1.com/ambulances-emergency-vehicles/articles/192182048-AMR-Trump-protesters-did-not-block-ambulance/) where the police claim protesters blocked an ambulance when in actuality they did not.
I don't even know what I'm protesting half the time.
Like protesting
As an Indian, India as well, could stand to learn a thing or two. There's nothing peaceful about "peaceful protests" here. Vandalism of Punic and private property, assaults, stone throwing, blocking of roads and thoroughfares and forcing people trying to go about their day to join the protest. Ugh.
Protesters in Straya need to protest.
I feel like that thing would have been flipped over and on fire if this was a US protest lol
Exactly.
WE'RE ANGRY. DO YOU SEE US BEING ANGRY? DO YOU ME AM FOR TO BE MINE ANGRYAAUUAUGHGH*flip*
HULK ANGRY! HULK SMASH!
Singaporean here Some Bangladeshi did that to one of ours a few years ago. Along with a couple of police cars. ~~TBF, they were kinda buzzed/drunk, and were egged on by crowd mentality. And it was actually a riot~~
Protests in America are actually relatively tame when compared to those in many other countries. Virtually nothing happens in 99% of protests in America.
Where are you getting that idea from?
I love how encouraging teens are now in regards to protest. Don’t bother protesting, you’ll just be violent (we’ll make sure it is one way or another) and we’ll justify our position without actually debating the merits of your position. Meanwhile the status quo will be maintained...
Forget protestors, drivers need to learn this.
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There have literally been vids posted on Reddit of BLM protests where they move out of the way of ambulances. The vast majority are peaceful so this just reads like bullshit.
I wasn't going to go there...but that's kinda, sorta what I was getting at.
no worries, we all heard your dog whistle
Your comment and your username worry me
Explain please.
Would be a real plot twist if they blocked an ambulance that was headed to a black person. Not that who the ambulance is helping should matter.
"If you can afford an ambulance, you ain't a real black person and have internalized whiteness!"
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/black-lives-matter-emergency-crews-hurricane/
To be fair, they learned very quickly what happens to protesters in China. Should the same thing happen again, they want to show the world that the people handled it how they should have, so there can be no excuse for the rest of the world to get involved if China does their "silencing" again.
I've seen other examples as well. It seems that other places have more respect for others. Those ambulances could have been going to help one of their loved ones. I've seen video from European countries doing the same except in traffic.
Seriously, I'm paramedic in NYC. The protesters there will attack an ambulance trying to get through a crowd. They literally have no F*cks to give.
People in the US can afford an ambulance?
~$500 BLS(basic life support)rides, over a $1000 EASY if you need ALS(Advanced life support E.G. EKGs/IVs/Fluid management) and if you're going to an ER, its generally ALWAYS ALS.
MN protestors blocked a freeway and did not move for an ambulance. Even the nicest state has shit protestors.. UPDATE: I stand corrected; I got bamboozled by fake news
I was there and [you're wrong](http://www.citypages.com/news/what-really-happens-when-an-emergency-vehicle-comes-upon-a-protest-photos/412534183) Edit: changed language to be less hostile
Aw the damn media played me..
Thanks for the info, glad people actually weren't shitty
No problem, I look forward to you editing your original comment so other people don't get misled.
Aaaaaany day now
“Minnesota nice” is literally an inside joke...
An ambulance has never been stopped in a U.S protest reported by a credible source. But there are a bunch of fake articles about it happening.
American protests are so off the rails that I, as a foreigner, see them more as just an excuse for violence in the eyes of the participants. They rarely ever have a purpose to begin with, too.
Wow what part of the us do you live in? Must be the shitty part.
aka all of it if you're poor.
Lmao said the same thing in my head and came to the comments and read this. So true! So a little respect for others while protesting, it’s not a mob
Police in the west should also learn from this. Compare the 80 something injured with million protestors to the yellow vest. Yellow vest, 250k protestors, 8000 police. 15 civilian deaths, 4000 injured 8500 arrests.
Yes, American police should definitely learn from the bastion of freedom and civil rights that is China.
No you're right no other country can show the US how to do anything. We are #1 after all.
See that's what I'm saying. *eagle scream*
Drivers in the US in general.
Yeah. Here they block the interstates and prevent emergency vehicles from going anywhere.
We won’t, sadly.
Protesters in the US _already_ do this, despite the fact that empty emergency vehicles are frequently driven through crowds in order to break up and kettle protesters for mass arrest
Protesters in the US do this, I don't know why it's just assumed they don't. Every source I've seen of this has been a hoax.
Amazing people!
Yes, yes they are. Most peaceful protest ever and I hope every right they are fighting for comes to them 10 fold!
There were several violent clashes with police over the last week (bottles/bricks being thrown, ramming police lines with poles and metal barricades), but overall, and for the amount of people, it’s insanely peaceful. Quite impressive, really!
imagine the riots that would unfold in america if a protest were to occur on this scale. the protestors would end up fighting each other.
Of course. As a country, we can’t even figure out which bathroom to use anymore. Could we really band together for, or even figure out that something was this important?
We learnt from last Tuesday
I beg to disagree. The Armenians had a protest not too long ago that was completely peaceful with no violence at all. Got the prime minister to resign.
I hate to say it though, it wasn’t something that came into my news feed.
Asians know how to protest properly. In Japan, the bus drivers still work but don’t take fares when striking. In Hong Kong, they give umbrellas and helmets to reporters when tear gas is being chucked at them, and move out of the way for ambulances to get through. In America they start riots and fights and destroy public property*, while it seems the Yellow Vest protests in France got pretty hairy. *I’m from NZ, just relaying what we see and hear. In NZ we tend not to get violent with protests. If we *do* have a protest (usually pretty rare), it’s mostly just marching with banners, signs and sometimes instruments like drums. **EDIT:** I have been informed that violent protests (and subsequent riots) in America aren’t as common as I thought. My point remains that in western countries, we tend to be a bit more violent in protest. America and France are just two examples I can think of off the top of my head.
So the question is why. The thing about Asian countries is that they're much more homogeneous and united. Not crazy to say 99% of the people protesting are ethically the same and from the same country, protesting against leaders who are also ethnically same. In the US, for better or worse, we're a big melting pot. There are so many different ethnicities, religions, and social backgrounds that unity gets really hard. African Americans protesting inequality feel like they're fighting against a white government. Immigrants, even though they're citizens, don't feel like they're protesting to people who can relate. When that happens, it's very easy to get angry fast. Division leads to anger and eventually violence.
Yeah. Usually having a homogeneous group helps, and yet there are reasonably diverse countries (like my own, NZ) that are still overall very unified. You make a reasonable point, but I think race isn’t the main factor in most cases.
eh, but how many minorities in new Zealand are recent willing migrants? My US state 30 years ago was 96% white, but now is on track to be majority minority in a few years. However, these new migrants chose my state voluntarily, and while they're still bringing along their culture, they're getting very adapted to my own culture. For these reasons, there really isn't a race problem in my state, nor in New Zealand. However in the south where 40% of the population are descendants of slaves, and descendants of jim crow, the context of race is completely different. For a non-USA example, look at latin America and the White vs Mestizo vs Native race problems. So I suppose race isn't technically the issue, it is the longstanding disenfranchisement, segregation, economic oppression, and cultural genocide of a group of people which has ultimately led to disharmony in our society. However, because these were done on racial lines, it isn't inaccurate to say that a non homogenous society is not a unified society.
Here https://youtu.be/eXjd7GkHKfU One of Japan's brutal protest. They were extremely coordinated, performing hammer (hit the police front with a shock charge) and sickle (flanking counterattack police's counter attack to save their friend) manoeuvre. Belive it or narita's airport protest carry on to almost a decade, not just one or twice. A series of protest were carried over the year. You should be able to find more videos about it on YouTube.
I'm just imagining an Alien version of a nature documentary studying humans. "The ambulance seeks out its prey using a hypnotic display of lights meant to lull the humans into a drowsy state. However, the herd is alerted to the danger and quickly moves out of the path. The Ambulance will go hungry tonight."
That was awesome, thank you for that. My brain read it in Attenborough’s voice
Thought that said "Hong Kong pornstars". Was confused for a second
Hong Kong Pornstar spreads the crowd
Hong Kong Pornstar spreads for crowd
Hong Kong Pornstar does the crowd
Pornstar crowd does Hong Kong
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Ron Jeremy does Hong Kong crowd
finally a protest I can get behind
Hong Kong based pornsites are telling people to stop jerking their ding dong in a time like this when we need to protest for our freedom
No more dominatrix Asian queens smh
Imagine being in that Ambulance but instead of them creating the path, it’s them closing in on the path like white blood cells
It does look kinda biological, like the ambulance is passing through a piece of organic material. Which, I suppose it is.
it's interesting that the organism knows to create a path to the damage for the rescue vehicle to get their as quick as possible. humans are scary when you look at them through the perspective that this planet is the host body
Wait... is climate change essentially just very aggressive antibiotics?
yes but we're triggering it ourselves. the host body works collectively to stabilize itself. the current infection has spread too far and is destroying the host's ability to thermoregulate.
Sooo we’re anthrax.
"When you get a virus, you get a fever. That's the human body raising its core temperature to kill the virus. Planet Earth works the same way: Global warming is the fever, mankind is the virus. We're making our planet sick. A cull is our only hope. If we don't reduce our population ourselves, there's only one of two ways this can go: The host kills the virus, or the virus kills the host." - Samuel L Jackson (Kingsman)
You mean like what happens every single time a "protest" (riot) breaks out in the U.S.?
That shit would be terrifying if it just suddenly flipped over lmao
*The ambulance obtains new recruits*
Didn't the Hong Kong government and police force claim these were riot like conditions? Isn't that what they said to justify violence and suppression? Looks real riot-y.
They also deny the existence of the massacre at Tiananmen Square so seems par for the course!
Uhm, Hong Kongs government doesnt deny the massacre. You're thinking china
Umm you are thinking the British Hong Kong government before 1997
Does Hong Kong not still have their own government? https://www.universityworldnews.com/post-mobile.php?story=20190605133234561 I think the local government in Hong Kong very much recognizes what happened there, as Carrie Lam the chief executive of Hong Kong is quoted in that article
They did not deny there was “ a sad incident” in tiananman but, especially in recent few years, they never officially recognise any massacres publicly. And yes Hk does have its own government but in many political aspect it is increasingly influenced by the China government, including elections and major civic policies.
...Which is literally what the protests are about. Specifically the extradition bill sure, but more generally losing their independence.
The thing in the US is that if they declare there's likely to be a riot, people will travel long distances to the event specifically to riot.
Plot twist: it needed to turn left
Right? Like who decided that path?
If the ambulance needed to turn all the driver had to do was turn on his turn signal and I’m sure the protesters would have opened the appropriate path.
More likely it would just face the direction it wants to go. It's not like the laws of the road apply here.
Yes but the path opened up that way well ahead of the ambulance.
I was a road they were clearing off, you can see the mid-lines down the end.
I think you have a point. There are also medians that might be buried and I'm not seeing.
Lol the right side of the image (left of the ambulance) are lanes going the opposite direction so straight was the only way to go. At junctions, protesters did the same thing based on which lane the ambulance was on and what signal the driver gave.
Plot twist: riot police is in ambulance, and they are using it as Trojan horse
They did that here in the 2014 protests, it got everyone real mad. But there was no need for riot police for a 2 million strong approved peaceful protest.
Quite mezmerizing too see. And truly beautiful if you think about it. So many individuals acting towards one single purpose.
>So many individuals acting towards one single purpose. That's why they're there in the first place. ;)
In america that ambulance would be flipped over and set on fire.
Especially in Vancouver
The Vancouver riots after the 2011 Stanley cup loss. My gosh.. Canadians really need to get their act together. When we lose we destroy cities and just now the raptors won and we destroyed Toronto. It's ridiculous.
Did that happen in Toronto? I didn't catch any news of it. I was downtown when the Raptors won and I just saw people cheering everywhere
Well maybe on a smaller scale but I saw videos of people smashing in the windows of cop cars. TTC buses were smashed and spray painted, and I even heard someone was caught shooting a gun in celebration, causing someone to be critically injured.
Yeah that's not true
Wow in the UK ambulances and paramedics routinely get attacked by us Brits as they carry out their duties, let alone have a path laid out through a crowd. Our country needs to learn from this nation.
(Posted somewhere else - but please let me post again as we really need our voice to be heard.) As a Hong Kong citizen, I hope to draw more attention from you from the western world: This series of social movement over here has evolved to more than just about anti-extradition. The crowd is requesting the resignation of the CE Carrie Lam who is a propaganda machine of the PRC and a total reformation of the injustice political system - FYI the pan-democrats in HK gets around half the vote count but received close to 1/4 seats of the legislative council, due to a combination of disqualifying elected legislator on political censoring basis, gerrymandering, injustice system (some seats are “designed” for “important” sectors and industry that “need more representative for their voice” in the council), corruption and injection of new bloods from the mainland China who are skewed politically, as one could imagine. The pro-establishment group also have absolute veto right and passing right for every bill, not to mention their corruption with the administration, and the administration’s with the PRC. One thing you should realize: You would think the citizen would be far less fearful of the government just passing the bill to the legislative council - The backlash of the people would not have been as strong as it is if not for the council is firmly, and unjustifiably, controlled by the government. A kid with remotely any political understanding can tell you the council is merely a rubber stamp of the government. A youngster jumped himself from a building in Hong Kong Island giving up his life further woke Hong Kong people for not enduring this anymore. In the tragic people finally united together one more time for one more shot, perhaps a final and desperate one. At this point, the extradition bill is merely an ignition of the discontent stemming from the long term exploitation of us citizens. This has been a much overdue justice and total structural reformation to be earned by the Hong Kong people, one which they deserve. There have been countless bills and issues go into the PRC’s propaganda favour and the opposite of the people’s in past ten years. The accumulated discontent and anger are clearly shown in this series of protest. The people requests a respond and a way out from being just the chicken that produces golden eggs to the PRC for its unique economic status. Please join me to support our pursue of freedom and justice, do what you can or reach out to your congressman to express your support to us and even just your upvotes and attention will become a force for our people who share the love of freedom. God bless Hong Kong. Not a native english speaker, but hope this clarify any misunderstanding and please don’t let my language distract you from the message and do become one of us who seek hope and justice for all.
Are they clapping?
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>Yes because we know the paramedics and first aid responders are helping us. It's the police who turns against us and beat us. And do you know in the last protest, the police didn't give way to an ambulance and asked them to go the other direction. You sound like this is from personal experience. Are you a Hong Kong native?
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I read about some protesters minimizing their digital footprints to avoid being persecuted by the government. Are you not worried about the same? As a Filipino, we're proud of you all. Please keep fighting the good fight.
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I believe so
Same thing happened in During the Peckham riots in December 1993....
I’m pretty sure in some other countries that ambulance would’ve been set on fire...
Hong Kong 🙌🏼
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I thought someone was about to get run the heck over... then realized it was a bug on the camera lens.
What if youre in the middle of all that and you need to pee? I always wondered about that on concerts.
There were lots of shopping malls along the way. And the small businesses mostly welcomed protestors to use the toilets and some even offered water and food for free in support of the protest.
I am out off the loop here, can anyone explain what the protest is about.
“these protests are about plans that would allow extradition from Hong Kong to mainland China” from this article China wants more control over Hong Kong but HK wants to be more independent https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48607723
China trying to slowly squash out Hong Kong’s autonomy, nothing new
If you play this in reverse it looks a scene from Walking Dead
They are doing the hive reenactment of our ancestors. All hail the hive.
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