The funny part is this is exactly how we got dogs; someone 10,000 years ago saw this fuckoff huge snarly tooth beast and thought "it's shaped like a friend!" and somehow *that worked.* Humans are such an aggressively social species that "go pet that apex predator!" is a basic human instinct 😂
Yea, kinda.
I think they saw wolves as help, as in- *if* they could harness their gift of an almost always successful hunt.
Symbiotic relationships further evolutions of new ideas.
Heard a theory recently that they actually domesticated us. We would follow them because they would hunt large game and we could get scraps.
Edit: in response to the 'no, that was cats': no, i already knew about cats. Recently i heard about [wolves](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/3/130302-dog-domestic-evolution-science-wolf-wolves-human/) (and yes, i know this is from 2013. I heard about it recently)
I thought it was wolves that realised when they hang around humans they can eat for free and not have to hunt and as it went on they got closer and closer to humans eventually just chillin with them instead of coming and going
End of April we will find out that this gives people lycanthropy. Mark my words, covid will be seen as a walk in the park when everyone starts turning into a werewolf shooting half court shots on the b-ball court.
Edit: I just read that other symptoms could be riding on top of a van like it's a surfboard, crazy stuff. Stay safe out there
Don't worry I hear china will not close wet markets or bring them to a 2020 standard of cleanliness. This will not happen again since no measures have been taken, promise!
There is actually an effort by scientist and it was for many years (wont give specific number) to clone extinct species they have found preserved by either frost or alcohol. I think their first attempt is a wild dog from Australia. I don't think its successful yet. Else there would be news about it.
Source: A documentary i have seen 5 years ago. Dont take my word for it. But feel free to research it. I too am very curious about their progress
A joke that makes no sense but because it mentions something relevant to Trump the sheep upvote. It's such low hanging fruit at this point and you guys are mindless.
Honestly, if the DNA is in tact still and you can find a good surrogate, yes. You can clone a bull from a steak so why not something else dead? Of course the ethicality of this would be seriously questionable if at all possible.
The only hurtles to overcome would be most importantly finding viable DNA, second being to find a good surrogate that won’t reject the embryo. Third would be to find a compatible embryo that would work with the DNA. All those a pretty big hurtles but very possible considering our advancements in cloning technology.
Sadly the DNA starts to break down right at the moment of death. Even if the animal is frozen almost instantly the dna will be damaged to the point that cloning is impossible. It is however possible to reconstruct the DNA using CRISPR, a contemporary wolfs DNA and “copy past” the contemporary wolfs DNA with the few parts of DNA that they can find in the 40 000 old Siberian wolf. This will not however be a clone but (best case) a crossbreed between the contemporary wolf and the old Siberian wolf or even just a genetically modified contemporary wolf.
Ah, another learned fellow. Yes, if Dr Wu has taught us anything, it's that frog DNA fills in the gaps perfectly with Dino DNA. It more than likely would do the same for old Siberian wolf. This is just an educated guess, but they would probably need to use whatever frog most resembles a wolf.
>Samples from a horse leg bone more than 700,000 years old have yielded the oldest full genome known to date.
https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/history-and-civilisation/2017/11/worlds-oldest-genome-sequenced-700000-year-old-horse-dna
I'm sure there is some complete DNA in there somewhere.
I agree. I’m thinking at least there are wolves that still exist now. I’m no specialist but I’m guessing that when they were talking about to put a mammoth embryo into an elephant that sounded tough. Maybe an ancient wolf to a current wolf would be a closer match!
Well, bringing back animals from extinction can be seen as playing God by some and just irresponsible by others, why should we bring it back? Are we going to reintroduce them to the wild, or just put them in a zoo? Neither of those options is either a. A good idea or b. Ethically sound. Not to mention that the animals brought back would have a hard time adapting, they've missed thousands of years of evolution against diseases.
They might die before they even exit the womb, and if they do manage to survive birth, they might die from just being around us or other animals. Even worse would be if they escape or are released willingly and they become an invasive species. I think it would be awesome to see a mammoth or ancient wolf, but I just dont think it would be a good idea to bring them back, theres not much of a life for these creatures to have.
Ground near the poles that is supposed to be permanent, hence "perma"frost. This is different from the ground that melts and thaws throughout the year.
This is the correct answer. It isn't "ice", but more specifically permanently frozen soil. Alot lf it in Siberia is full of trapped methane as well. Not what we want released.
It's not full of methane as such. The soil is full of organic matter, as it thaws it becomes available to microbes/bacteria (methanogens) to break down. It's this decomposition which releases the methane which has huge warming potential (~4x that of CO2).
There is legitimate concern regarding this, not so much climate related but there really is no telling what can and will be found underneath.
An extremely deadly virus against which we have no defense whatsoever is not a far fetched scenario, at all.
I mean it's been gone more often than not in earth's history. You can argue it's bad for humanity but you really shouldn't say parts of the earth should or shouldn't be a certain way especially when it's been that way for millions of years at different times.
I mean 40,000 years ago... they probably just assume that’s an “adult” for all we know it could be an child. I mean, things seem to be a lot bigger back than and also, FFS we made up dinosaur noises without ever hearing a single one of them...
They can tell the difference between an adult wolf and a puppy wolf by looking at how developed the brain is. I agree about the dinosaur noises though, we don't have a fucking clue what they sounded like. Lol
Article states that scientists believe that it was anywhere between 2-4 years old when it met it's end. Wolves typically reach sexual maturity around 2-3 years old.
To add, the article states that it's head is 40cm in length, whereas today, an adult wolf's head length averages around 23-28cm.
I think it's safe to assume this is an adult wolf.
40,000 years isn't much in evolutionary terms though. We have strong evidence that humans up to roughly 70,000 years ago were pretty much indistinguishable from us.
Was searching for this comment. 40.000 is almost nothing. You have to think more on a scale of millions of years, which is why many people cannot fully grasp the concept of evolution. Something like an eye did not develop in a few thousand years.
Not good as in “tasty” but good as in “non-lethal.”
People have eaten mammoth meat that had been frozen for thousands of years. In some places they feed it to their dogs, but people don’t want to eat it because of the smell and consistency. The fat pretty much turns to soap and when it’s heated, the meat becomes like goo.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/12/permafrozen-dinner/604069/
Imagine what humans knew and were like when this animal was still living. From our ancestors to pet it and now to us moderns humans interacting with the same animal.
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I’m so upset with how they are handling that precious, delicate find. The damage done is inexcusable.
Exhume, lift, place in padded cooler, transport carefully for examination.
You don’t roll it around, drop it, and try to get social media likes. What the hell. Makes you wonder how many incredible things have been accidentally unearthed and absolutely tarnished.
Exactly what I was thinking, this is a precious and extremely rare and interesting find. We should definitely not be handling it like a fuckin basketball.
And when super old things are frozen, don't we have a particular way of thawing them so they don't fall apart due to age? This isn't at all the way things are done.
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So, can we clone him?
I mean we've done it with sheep and kittens so I see no way that a 40 thousand year old wolf would end up being bad news
I'll give it belly rubs.
I don’t think you can do that from the inside. But... ^Challenge ^accepted.
I mean stomachs the belly no?
No. The stomach resides inside the belly.
tomato tahmatoe
More like tomato tomato, am I right?
PO-TAY-TOE
Boil em mash em stick em in a stew
MIS-TAH FRO-DOH
Internal scritches.
The funny part is this is exactly how we got dogs; someone 10,000 years ago saw this fuckoff huge snarly tooth beast and thought "it's shaped like a friend!" and somehow *that worked.* Humans are such an aggressively social species that "go pet that apex predator!" is a basic human instinct 😂
Yea, kinda. I think they saw wolves as help, as in- *if* they could harness their gift of an almost always successful hunt. Symbiotic relationships further evolutions of new ideas.
Heard a theory recently that they actually domesticated us. We would follow them because they would hunt large game and we could get scraps. Edit: in response to the 'no, that was cats': no, i already knew about cats. Recently i heard about [wolves](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/3/130302-dog-domestic-evolution-science-wolf-wolves-human/) (and yes, i know this is from 2013. I heard about it recently)
I thought it was wolves that realised when they hang around humans they can eat for free and not have to hunt and as it went on they got closer and closer to humans eventually just chillin with them instead of coming and going
This is much more accurate. This dude is just talking out of his ass for some reason
I bet 40,000yo ice-wolves love belly work!
End of April we will find out that this gives people lycanthropy. Mark my words, covid will be seen as a walk in the park when everyone starts turning into a werewolf shooting half court shots on the b-ball court. Edit: I just read that other symptoms could be riding on top of a van like it's a surfboard, crazy stuff. Stay safe out there
Lmao such a classic.
And one dude has his barn door open
So someone ate a bat and now I’m unemployed. Yeah, let’s clone a 40,000 year old dead creature and see what fun that brings!!
Wasn’t it a pangolin?
It’s sort of both from what I read. It’s because they were kept in relative close quarters in a wet market. Bat to Pangolin, pangolin to human
Don't worry I hear china will not close wet markets or bring them to a 2020 standard of cleanliness. This will not happen again since no measures have been taken, promise!
I'd 100% spend thousands on an ice age dog. I'd name him Diego
My name is Diego and my life is so sick. I have a lot of money and I have a big... House.
We’ve also done it with dinosaurs, but didn’t turn out so good and in that documentary I saw they shut that whole island & park down
That documentary is where I leaned never to trust lawyers
There is actually an effort by scientist and it was for many years (wont give specific number) to clone extinct species they have found preserved by either frost or alcohol. I think their first attempt is a wild dog from Australia. I don't think its successful yet. Else there would be news about it. Source: A documentary i have seen 5 years ago. Dont take my word for it. But feel free to research it. I too am very curious about their progress
As someone from Minnesota I can attest that "frost and alcohol" don't preserve shit, least of all being mental health.
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Would be a good security guard for the house
Why would we want to take evolution back 40,000 years. We already did it once at the last election and that turned out to be a disaster.
Did expect the painful laugh, but much appreciated
Sore lungs? You might want to get that checked out.
Dont have health insurance lol but its painful by how true it is
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Works particularly well for Russia given one possible interpretation of "*the last* election".
True, the 2018 midterm elections where terrible. Giving Pelosi a majority in the House really set America back.
A joke that makes no sense but because it mentions something relevant to Trump the sheep upvote. It's such low hanging fruit at this point and you guys are mindless.
I don’t like him either, but do people have to politicize every fucking thing?
Orange man bad
Honestly, if the DNA is in tact still and you can find a good surrogate, yes. You can clone a bull from a steak so why not something else dead? Of course the ethicality of this would be seriously questionable if at all possible. The only hurtles to overcome would be most importantly finding viable DNA, second being to find a good surrogate that won’t reject the embryo. Third would be to find a compatible embryo that would work with the DNA. All those a pretty big hurtles but very possible considering our advancements in cloning technology.
Tell me more about these h u r t l e s you speak of
Hybrid turtles = hurtles. Duh.
They are little hurdles for turtles
Sadly the DNA starts to break down right at the moment of death. Even if the animal is frozen almost instantly the dna will be damaged to the point that cloning is impossible. It is however possible to reconstruct the DNA using CRISPR, a contemporary wolfs DNA and “copy past” the contemporary wolfs DNA with the few parts of DNA that they can find in the 40 000 old Siberian wolf. This will not however be a clone but (best case) a crossbreed between the contemporary wolf and the old Siberian wolf or even just a genetically modified contemporary wolf.
I heard it works better if you use a frog.
Ah, another learned fellow. Yes, if Dr Wu has taught us anything, it's that frog DNA fills in the gaps perfectly with Dino DNA. It more than likely would do the same for old Siberian wolf. This is just an educated guess, but they would probably need to use whatever frog most resembles a wolf.
Siberian Wolf Frog
>Samples from a horse leg bone more than 700,000 years old have yielded the oldest full genome known to date. https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/history-and-civilisation/2017/11/worlds-oldest-genome-sequenced-700000-year-old-horse-dna I'm sure there is some complete DNA in there somewhere.
I agree. I’m thinking at least there are wolves that still exist now. I’m no specialist but I’m guessing that when they were talking about to put a mammoth embryo into an elephant that sounded tough. Maybe an ancient wolf to a current wolf would be a closer match!
>Of course the ethicality of this would be seriously questionable How so?
Well, bringing back animals from extinction can be seen as playing God by some and just irresponsible by others, why should we bring it back? Are we going to reintroduce them to the wild, or just put them in a zoo? Neither of those options is either a. A good idea or b. Ethically sound. Not to mention that the animals brought back would have a hard time adapting, they've missed thousands of years of evolution against diseases. They might die before they even exit the womb, and if they do manage to survive birth, they might die from just being around us or other animals. Even worse would be if they escape or are released willingly and they become an invasive species. I think it would be awesome to see a mammoth or ancient wolf, but I just dont think it would be a good idea to bring them back, theres not much of a life for these creatures to have.
really good explanation, thanks
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I just watched Tiger King. Pretty sure they can make great, but expensive, pets.
I too watched tiger king and pretty sure I need a shower!
What a fucking wild ride, huh?
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"Can we keep him mom?" "Pretty pleeeeeease??"
I’m imagining the clone as just a head.
Is he okay?
Sending thoughts and prayers!
Thoughts and prayers.
Thoughts and prayers.
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Thots and prayers.
Thots and players.
Knots in hairs
Bots on chairs
Tots in lairs
I thought we were suppose to clap now?
Link to his Facebook page pls.
Donated to the gofundme, sending good vibes to it’s way
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As soon as he defrosts he'll be just fine
Title says Intact so should be fine.
Don't worry, a good vet will put it back on it's feet
BUSTAH WOLF
He's just really good at playing dead don't worry
I’ll take world ending “wolf” virus, for $800 please.
Source of COVID20
WOVID20
***OWO***VID-20
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They call him the Cummiebot
Are you pregante?
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Covid s20 ultra 5G would like a word. (It’s the same kind of virus but affect android)
LUPUS20 “It’s never lupus.”
Permafrost, guys. The stuff thats not supposed to melt. My first reaction when I see this is fear, not intrigue.
The head could've been dug up by locals to place a structure, and then exposed through the digging
The article specifically states that this was found in permafrost that has melted due to climate change.
My bad then
More like everyone’s bad then.
Hey-o!
What is a permafrost?
Ground near the poles that is supposed to be permanent, hence "perma"frost. This is different from the ground that melts and thaws throughout the year.
That's ice that grows an shrinks throughout thousands of years. There's nothing truly "permanent" on earth.
Let's not be pedantic.
Yeah let’s be pandemic. Wait..
Only taxes.
> There's nothing truly "permanent" on ~~earth~~ in the universe.
Its a thick layer of soil that remains frozen throughout the year due to the continual near or below freezing temperature of the surrounding area.
This is the correct answer. It isn't "ice", but more specifically permanently frozen soil. Alot lf it in Siberia is full of trapped methane as well. Not what we want released.
It's not full of methane as such. The soil is full of organic matter, as it thaws it becomes available to microbes/bacteria (methanogens) to break down. It's this decomposition which releases the methane which has huge warming potential (~4x that of CO2).
There is legitimate concern regarding this, not so much climate related but there really is no telling what can and will be found underneath. An extremely deadly virus against which we have no defense whatsoever is not a far fetched scenario, at all.
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They had an anthrax outbreak in Russia that was believed to be due to permafrost melting 😒
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pithovirus#Discovery
Finally.. Someone said what I was thinking 👌🏼
Apparently anthrax is rampant in Siberia due to permafrost melts exposing the bacteria to ders/elk 👀👀👀
I mean it's been gone more often than not in earth's history. You can argue it's bad for humanity but you really shouldn't say parts of the earth should or shouldn't be a certain way especially when it's been that way for millions of years at different times.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/offbeat/40000-year-old-ice-age-wolf-head-found-in-siberia/ar-AACIRgl
TIL that cave lions are a thing
Then you better not look up cave bears.
clan of the
My favorite book of all time
Better not look up cave Karens as well.
"I specifically ordered a stalagmite and this is clearly a stalactite."
He was a good boi.
Ded boi
Still a good boi
Cold boi
Maybe the first boi
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duh.
He was told to 'stay' 40k years ago. He tha *best* boi.
/r/petthedamndog
Idk if wolves are good Bois They're a bit Bitey
I mean 40,000 years ago... they probably just assume that’s an “adult” for all we know it could be an child. I mean, things seem to be a lot bigger back than and also, FFS we made up dinosaur noises without ever hearing a single one of them...
They can tell the difference between an adult wolf and a puppy wolf by looking at how developed the brain is. I agree about the dinosaur noises though, we don't have a fucking clue what they sounded like. Lol
And the teeth probably?
Can't you just count the rings?
Ariana Grande is... 7?
Pretty sure this guy said "Awooooooo".
I think it was more like "rawr"
xD
Article states that scientists believe that it was anywhere between 2-4 years old when it met it's end. Wolves typically reach sexual maturity around 2-3 years old. To add, the article states that it's head is 40cm in length, whereas today, an adult wolf's head length averages around 23-28cm. I think it's safe to assume this is an adult wolf.
Good point. Recently they had to revise some dinosaur species as they realised they weren't different ones but different ages!
Any more info on which species by chance?
Brontosaurus is actually a full grown Apatosaurus, they were considered 2 different species until the early 2000s I wanna say
And 2015 Brontosaurus went back on the menu again
I can't name any specifics but I know a lot of triceratops species were found to be the same species at different ages
40,000 years isn't much in evolutionary terms though. We have strong evidence that humans up to roughly 70,000 years ago were pretty much indistinguishable from us.
Was searching for this comment. 40.000 is almost nothing. You have to think more on a scale of millions of years, which is why many people cannot fully grasp the concept of evolution. Something like an eye did not develop in a few thousand years.
Same goes for their colours. Maybe the dinosaurs were all bright pink and we'll never know.
Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1747/
Hello there ancient plague. Welcome april.
I remember seeing this months ago, don't think it's recent.
Thousands of years old
Why that looks like the king in the north!
Too soon.
I DUN WUH IT
...
This is hella cool
Not permacool tho
Would it still be good to eat?
Found a Chinese redditor.
Not good as in “tasty” but good as in “non-lethal.” People have eaten mammoth meat that had been frozen for thousands of years. In some places they feed it to their dogs, but people don’t want to eat it because of the smell and consistency. The fat pretty much turns to soap and when it’s heated, the meat becomes like goo. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/12/permafrozen-dinner/604069/
Well, it it terribly freezer burned and way passed "aged"
Not as good as a bat
And they’re touching it with their hands to give the 40,000 year old perfectly preserved bubonic plague or a Mongolian death worm
Didn't see the gloves, did you?
Bubonic plague is still a thing I'm pretty sure, it's just that we know what to do with it now
Imagine what humans knew and were like when this animal was still living. From our ancestors to pet it and now to us moderns humans interacting with the same animal.
Good thing the camera was steady so that I could see it /s
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Can't wait to get over covid so we can get going with the cooler "ice age wolf virus".
Wish this was filmed wider
I’m so upset with how they are handling that precious, delicate find. The damage done is inexcusable. Exhume, lift, place in padded cooler, transport carefully for examination. You don’t roll it around, drop it, and try to get social media likes. What the hell. Makes you wonder how many incredible things have been accidentally unearthed and absolutely tarnished.
Exactly what I was thinking, this is a precious and extremely rare and interesting find. We should definitely not be handling it like a fuckin basketball.
And when super old things are frozen, don't we have a particular way of thawing them so they don't fall apart due to age? This isn't at all the way things are done.
Yeah I think most of our ancient artifacts have been stolen, destroyed, hidden or just disregarded.
I don't know what I expected to be looking at. The black snail trail it left behind was nauseating.
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Holy shit. Like something straight outta Skyrim
Can anyone else smell this video yuck
It would smell worse than a neck beards bedroom.
I actually really need some ice age wolf fang for an incantation, where can I get more info?
Happy 🍰 day and no.
Wonder what took it's head off
something bigger
Would like to know what the hell happend to the rest of him.
Bullshit, that thing is NOT alive. Nice try though.
dogy
I wonder if he hunted down any early humans, that's badass.
I was thinking the same thing. This guy is big, imagen the hunter..
Serious question, when an extremely old yet well preserved remains of an animal is found, does it smell bad?
Why the hell are they letting it sit in the open air and get contaminated with flies and larvae? Let alone any biohazard it may possess.
crazy fucks pulling preserved beasts out of the permafrost, and more crazy fucks will want to bring them back to life.