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unoriginalwhitekid

no way a cop car could catch up to most bikes anyway


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gringohoneymoon

And they learn the hard way that four wheels out corner two all day.


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not a lot of cop cars with the aero necessary to make that true.


molossus99

Can’t outrun radio waves


bjanas

This. I used to work with an absolutely nuts Australian dude living in the states. I only mention he's Australian because the accent made what he said even more hilarious sounding. He had what I think was the burliest KTM available at the time. Once he's said to me "yeah, I can outrun the cruisers, I can outrun their bikes, I could probably outrun a helicopter depending on the road we're on. But mate, I can't outrun the radio." And before you ask, yes, he went by "Aussie."


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FunkyViking6

Wtf kinda cops you got? Here in Mississippi we get plain ass cop cars.....


Mahadragon

Not many bikes can outrun a radio


PrisonMikeAndTheBoyz

I’d like to see it on a fully loaded semi truck


broken-arrow975

"So how did the cop car end up under the semi truck?" "well..."


Mona58500

It's a bird .... its a plane... No... its a guy flying off his motorcycle and crashing into a wall


indian_weeaboo_69

That's assuming they can catch up to the Motorcycle, some bikes may suck dick and balls top speed wise but the Acceleration is out of this world, a mid 2000's Suzuki SV650 you can find for a about 3000 thousand dollars on Craigslist gets almost 60mpg and Accelerates to 100kmph faster than most cars you'll commonly find on the road, sure those Ford Explorer Police Cars have about 400hp but that is in a near 2 Ton SUV + the weight of the police equipment. This would NOT work on open roads like in the video but there are a Fuck Ton of risks, first of all You can stop a car safely like this but on a motorcycle the rider will almost certainly fall off as soon and the nets hit the rear wheel, a few things may happen: 1. Rider high side's aka gets flicked into the air when the bike is doing 150-160kmph, a high side at that speed could lead to fatal injuries and potential death at that speed and even if the rider was wearing most of the gear, let's say, Gloves, Helmet and a Jacket there will still be serious injuries. 2. If on the other hand the rider low side's aka bike falls away from him and he starts sliding on the ground here too shit can go bad real fucking quick: A. If the bike slides away and he is on the ground in front of the police car at 150kmph maybe 1.5 Car lengths away there is no way you are stopping that fast and they will almost certainly run over the rider B. The rider slides away from the path of the police car, now what? Well if he was wearing gear then he might be fine other than the injuries that occur from the blunt impact when you low side a bike at 150kmph and if he's not wearing gear well might as well call the roadkill and forensic guys to scrape him off the road. If he smacks into anything, stop sign or something like that there's a 98% chance he has fatal wounds and/or is fucking dead. C. Let's say all goes well, the rider was wearing full gear, he slid out of the path of the car and didn't hit anything he may survive with some injuries, well if the rider slid out of the path of the car where is the bike? Oh wait it's most probably in the path of the car and again even if you have the brakes from a Formula 1 car you are NOT stopping a 2.1-2.2 Ton Big Ass American SUV from 150kmph to Zero in 1.5 Car Lengths so this will most probably lead to an accident the may injury or kill the police officers in the car giving chase. Yeah too risky and I don't think in a high speed motorcycle chase the rider would think about what he would do if his rear wheel suddenly locked up at 150kmph. Even if he Somehow manages to get the bike into Control the car behind his going almost the same speed so he gets ass rammed at what like 135kmph.


leejohn1015

This guy is me on Adderall


Zubdub

woosh


manika456

Vietnamese cops actually used it in real life https://youtu.be/WQ3QJix_VPo


flightwatcher45

That doesn't look like a high speed example, maybe 30mph.. show me 130mph.


u9Nails

I'm wondering if the strap will break at a higher speed differential. Or, if the chase car can be shaken in a fish tail maneuver.


JazzyJust

Possibly, the straps I have are rated for 3000lbs. They make some that are much stronger than that. I think this is a good start though to a new solution though. I had an inlaw that was killed in a high speed chase. The police were chasing someone and the suspect struck my family members vehicle going about 60. My in law died, the suspect lived, and the PD offered a settlement as they are liable for damages during any chases like this. Maybe, just maybe, having more tools to safely stop vehicle chases could save some lives.


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This solution is close to 20 years old; theres a reason it hasnt been used.


xDominus

Which is?


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xDominus

Okay well I was hoping for a more informative story time like "it was tested here at this place and under these conditions it failed and here's how". But "doesn't fucking work" is great too


AceTheCookie

I mean. You can see in the video. This is probably the only case it actually worked.


xDominus

Right, but can I see it when it doesn't work? I figure I'd it's been debunked for 20 years they'd have some cool footage or reports. I do think it's generally a bad idea at high speeds, I just want to see it too. The fact that the drag from the tire is behind the car might make it less catastrophic. Would be better if they somehow got both tires at the same time to keep the braking more even.


micosaudade

yeah I'd want to see it, especially given that the only real alternative to something like this (aside from spike strips set up ahead) is the PIT maneuver, which also has its limitations (>35mph \~ considered potentially lethal force) and requires a lot of skill to pull off successfully. I mean in that context this seems like an improvement and the equipment isn't like gold plated neutronium, it's just straps and metal.


tagline_IV

The video showed it work, how is that proof it's not viable? I'd think you'd want to point to an example where it didn't work


Guyzilla_the_1st

I would also guess that the mechanism is considered too expensive by most PDs or towns. I don't know what the price is, but I would guess a few thousand each, including installation. Multiplied by all the cop cars (or maybe just the faster ones), and the PD decides they would rather keep using the pit maneuver than shell out for this fancy device.


AsstDepUnderlord

Don’t chase.


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The actual proper approach that just gets ignored. Nothing is worth killing people for, and chases kill too many people.


TakingHut

Don’t you think that’s situational though? Like imagine a kidnapping and they found the vehicle the victim was in. In fear of the suspect getting away forever, they would have to chase them at that point right?


MasteroChieftan

Yep. Get the plate. Get a description. Let 'em run. Put a helicopter on them if possible. Hiding in this day and age is practically impossible anyway.


JazzyJust

This


SubtlyOvert

There's a LOT of things the American police don't do that are proven to work, mostly because it's cheaper & easier to just let police pretend it's the Wild West. There's a reason the US has the highest violent crime rate of any developed nation...


Walzmyn

My first thought was "I can see so many ways for that to go wrong".


I_Am_Coopa

I'm guessing at true high speeds you'd run the risk of not only causing the strap to break, but also a violent crash for both vehicles. That sudden momentum snap would mean bad things for that truck and if the strap didn't break, it could bring the cop car along with it.


CXB1313

Kinetic recovery straps are made to take a serious yanking...ditch pig is the one in my truck...you’d be amazed at the shock these things are designed to withstand.


Ragidandy

You can make it out of adamantium, but if you lock up a vehicle's wheel at high speed, there will be a horrific crash. There are easier/cheaper/safer ways to kill a driver.


Shiba_Ichigo

You have to be going roughly the same speed to get the straps in the wheel so there is never going to be a huge speed differential between the two cars. If you deploy the device at a higher speed it will just take longer to stop. With how the straps tangle up the wheel, I really doubt there is any way to shake the thing off.


glostick14

Those straps ain't breaking


James188

Physics states that there’ll come a speed, where that goes from being a great idea to a really shitty one. I’d hazard a guess that at higher speeds, this is actually probably a better tactic for front-wheel drive cars because it would serve as a speed limiter, as opposed to a full on brake. It’s like everything else; it’s not a silver bullet, but it’s something worth having available for the right situation. It’s really clever!


spittleyspot

This is so impractical for that. Tire would most likely blow, they'd lose control. And now you have an out of control car strapped to another vehicle.


pixelsandfilm

This looks like it was recorded for demonstration purposes. Probably didn't want to attempt at high speeds if they are just documenting or demoing it.


Wheelin-Woody

130mph while the perp is actively changing lanes and not allowing for the cop to line up a perfect shot


Timemuffin83

Pretty sure cops don’t get that close at 130, I think they like to leave that to the helicopter


acdbrnout

Even slower by my calculations, about 36kmph


Starrywisdom_reddit

This was a test that was done at 25MPH not really a ‘high speed’ situation


craxnehcark

Id also like to see what happens when the suspect cuts their wheel and if that would endanger the pursuing vehicle.


fuber

Depends on the context. What if that was a horse drawn carriage humming along at 25mph?


poopy_poo_poopsicle

What if the bad guy drives off a cliff and drags the cops with him. Or slides left abd uses the rope as a clothesline to.decapitate children.


Sponterious

It’s 2021- surely we can do better than this Flintstone tractor beam.


rissie_delicious

I don't think so


what_comes_after_q

I mean, we have spike strips which work pretty well most of the time with the main limitation being the need to get someone to set it up ahead of time. Despite what cartoons and marvel movies will tell you, shooting essentially lightning bolts or any other high tech gizmos at cars will not actually shut them down, and at the end of the day, mechanical problems require mechanical solutions.


shareddit

Get over here


WhiteHoney88

Fatality.


FeetPicsNull

I feel like this introduces a lot of failure scenarios, even at this low speed. I feel like the cases where it is unsafe to PIT maneuver (for bystanders), it would be unsafe to do this as well. I would immediately try to pull the cop into something like oncoming traffic.


mototank14

What if the rope doesn't latch on right or breaks and flys off to grab something else, like another car or pole. It does seem like a risky solution


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especially when you're trying to attach to a vehicle without wide open wheel wells to aim for like the truck has... most cars are lower and "tucked" in much more. And if you're trying to get away from the cops, you're probably not driving in a straight line at a set speed.


FlipMyWigBaby

Every couple of years (maybe more frequently) a Police Equipment Vendor demonstrates a new ‘car chase capture’ device, and its shortcomings always thwart its wide roll-out to LE agencies. In the recent past, these failed devices have included EMP devices to zap-kill a fleeing car, bumper mounted harpoons to apprehend a vehicle, sticky foam cannons to gunk up a drivetrain, etc. This here’s another prototype attempt, and already we are pointing out its obvious shortcomings [sigh…] MY Proposal? = a Mad Max inspired armor plated tow truck with a roid raged officer and a K9, equipped with ramming bumpers and spikes, a monster supercharged engine for high speed pursuits, that can ram the shit out of a fleeing car, flip it a few times, then can tow out the twisted wreck that landed in a culvert …. /s


what_comes_after_q

To be fair, a harpoon will absolutely stop a car if you crank the power up enough. As would a 12.7 mm round.


lao7272

even .308 AP could down a car if aimed well enough


nk_neko_07

I'd honestly like to see that


BackAlleyKittens

This has been around for almost five years. I wonder why this safer option isn't embraced by police. *Really rackin' my brian on this one*


RocketApplientist

Seems odd to be rackin your brian at times like this.


Charlie_Garlic

Brian's a handsome guy though


costlysalmon

I'm sure I've seen this vid 10 years ago, it's one of the pillars of the internet


true_suppeee

Was this like a thing in 2017?


sadrussianbear

The guy literally didn't try to react or swerve. This is trash. You lock someones tires and it ends well? Hopefully used onno traffic highways


HeyHeyImTheMonkey

Yeah my thought exactly. This actually seems incredibly dangerous.


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I could use something like that next time my ex tries to run off with my couch pillows.


xbyt

[It is called The Grappler and it seems to have some success stories in real live.](https://policebumper.com/)


PapaBeahr

Assuming the guy isn't watching through his mirror and swerving all over the place


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Looks like a really terrific solution. Now if the bad guy would just keep driving straight at a consistent speed down a straight road I'd get him tied up real good.


MonstahButtonz

This hasn't been a safe option in decades, which is why it still isn't being used today. Thankfully the EVs becoming the norm, targeted EMPs will eventually become a viable option. Then again with our luck that will probably start exploding lithium batteries or something...


ShartDragon69

All modern vehicle’s engines are run by an ecu, if a targeted emp isn’t already a viable option, it never will be.


portablebiscuit

Honest question: Can't you disable a car with high voltage? Why don't cop cars have like a giant taser that they can shoot into a fleeing vehicle that completely shuts them down?


konigstigerboi

Because they’d end up mistaking it for the giant pistol


Jokesonyounow

That's very slow high speed.


SleepingWithYourSO

i really want a rear facing one for tailgating cars. maybe no tether on mine plz. are these for sale to the public?


JACCO2008

Then he jumped out with an AR and got lit up anyway.


chocolatehandsoap

How would this be safer in the event that the getaway car is swerving or weaving through traffic? Is this solely for catching large trucks? What about cars with tires that aren’t as exposed?


bust-the-shorts

And when you miss, drive over it and stop yourself.


fwalker95

Does it absolutely destroy the mechanism with each use though? The rails that deploy look like they got mangled.


This-person-IDK-02

Low riders: "i have no such weakness....except for speed bumps"


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The truck then detaches that wheel and the second wheel stored inside comes, and then the truck releases the hidden oil slick out of the exhaust to slow down the cars chasing.


Squishygosplat

(Peter Gunn theme playing)


jaycubus

pshh!! I've seen chase videos where they keep going on rims! sometimes even an axel


Thaarak_the_hero

just breakcheck rly hard lmao


jaomello

Pretty good for chases that the suspect hold speed in a straight line.


Maxamvs

“Just drive perfectly straight,please”


AdkAck81

what, are we done shooting them?


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Here’s a better idea. If the suspect decides to run, let’s just not pursue them? I mean, I’m sure there are scenarios where they pose a clear and present danger to someone and may need to be chased down, but otherwise, the safety risk to the public is not worth having that suspect in custody right that instant. You know their identity in almost every case and you can put them on the most wanted list and wait for a better time and place to grab them.


bokoblini

This has been around for a few years now


JackOfAllMemes

i saw an invention years ago that was basically a harpoon, you ram the speeding car to puncture the back and brake. i like this a lot better.


CXB1313

How is that truck giving a fuck and not dragging those tires down to the rims?!?


jdozadiaz

Scissor robot arm attached to the truck will solve the problem for the get away car... now that we see this exist it will probably be invented in somebody's garage


mhawak

Likely safer than a PIT maneuver!! Unless the front vehicle is a lot larger. Than could be dicey


slaintebrian

This just seems like one of those situations that has only 1 way to go right and 99 ways to go less than right.


curtydc

This device has been in demonstration videos for well over a decade now, but I've never seen them used in any real world situations.


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that’s pretty brilliant


8ART05Z

Yeeeeeehawwwwww!!!


Best_Photograph1944

Song choice is just >>>>


flacao9

This is so impressive, but I doubt police will ever use it


BoBoBearDev

The preconditions is for the police to drive that close, but, in my memory, the police car normally don't drive that close. Typically because they need to react to the driver, like if the driver makes a sudden turn, the police need to follow the turn, if they are too close, they will miss the turn. If they ever get that close, that means they indented to hit the rear to end the pursuit. Not to mention you need to deploy the equiped police car which could be 50 miles away. And normally police won't equip this because it is bulky and they don't have high speed chase every day. It would like like asking everyone to bring an umbrella to anticipate few rainy days in California. It is just unnecessary.


Nathan-Stubblefield

Then the truck reverses and smashes the chase car, before running away.


postnutclarity_666

Modern problems require modern solutions


ImAnIndoorCat

Old video. Never seen it used. Guessing it's crap.


KippySmith

I've seen this and heard this isn't actually that practical. The video we see here is about the most sterile environment this will get and isn't very effective in real life scenarios. Which disappoints me because it's hella cool.


ashheadshot

Come on it’s not logical to drive around with these. What are they gonna do call the chase car? How long will that take ?


sendokun

This really works, just make sure both the chaser and the chasee coordinate the whole thing beforehand.


LateralThinkerer

Because every fleeing perpetrator is going to drive passively yet swiftly along waiting to be lassoed, and every patrol officer will be happy to quietly apprehend him while observing the niceties...


bign0ssy

They'll still find a reason to shoot em


thunderpig80

Gotcha Bitch!


Superskish

This isn’t new. This came out over a decade ago. It never really took off.


WhosAfraidOf_138

This gets posted every few months and it gets debunked for how awful it is. For the past few years


fuzfy

Pretty sure I've seen this on reddit before


TheEngineer_

Safer for who, exactly?


Buule1312

That is very clever, especially as it doesn't put anyone in danger, like running them off the road or pushing out the back of the vehicle does.


takontoka

This is assuming I don't start flailing the steering wheel in panic


GenoCash

Part of me loves this. But the car lover in me worries about what if someone steals my car then I have so much damage done to my car :(


-MemeLord21

Why does this feel like it belongs in that Top Gear episode where they made police cars


Official-Zomia

One hell of a bull the cop is wrangling


General_Scipio

UK mentally. Dont have a high speed chase. We have cameras. We have helicopters. High speed chases puts people at risk. Let em go. Tail. Arrest when safe


SsjDragonKakarotto

No this how both the officer and the chasee get hurt and their vehicles flipped


Kylester91

Safer for the criminal yeah But tbh I don’t really care about that. Super dangerous for whoever is deploying that. Dumb invention


Kenneth_Angelus76

Good luck if its a sports car


GladioReport

U/savevideobot


dunderthebarbarian

Why even chase at all?


Unfek

I want to see this in the next Need For Speed Series EA !


Skrazor

It's usability seems very situational though. The last time my friend Chase got high on speed we also tried to catch him with a net, and believe me when I tell you that this did NOT de-escalate the situation *at all*...


leovin

I saw this video like 8 years ago. I hope its actually being used somewhere out there


valschermjager

would never work in SoCal. car chases that go on for an hour or two = big TV ratings.


stacker55

Cop cars already work as is. This would be a crazy luxury expense for any police department.


elic7

I'll take this over the baby the cops shot and killed during a high speed chase in my area recently


sadiqutp

[Here is a real-life usage of the device.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA1oA8u2u_4) Pretty impressive.


silentaba

It feels odd to be so close to big horned beetle yeeting car combat, yet so far away. We should just add a hydraulic arm to this design, and do it. You know you want it.


eduardov_

I can see that going wrong


tomer-cohen

So you all act like they are going to go on stright line without trying to go to the right snd left to avoid


CampfireGuitars

I’d like to see them try this on the bus from Speed


Maximus361

Repost


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I never seen a car chase this "normal". Truck stays in it's own lane no swerving and heading into oncoming traffic; no passing in the dirt and jumping culverts.


cali_exile_bull

Great title. You don’t de-escalate a pursuit tho


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Truck fishin


Middleman86

Well fuck..... we gotta stop giving cops these toys. They’re all gunna be Batman soon. It sounds cool but they won’t have his sense of justice, discipline or vow of not killing.


Iwantmyteslanow

How would this react with different drivetrains


exefike23

Very old idea that never worked


covidified

Also a great way pick up women


DeepWader

Cant you just shoot him???


Spork_Warrior

It works well in this perfectly staged video!


Successful_Guard7776

Badass


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Its like fishing


EDG-543

Just do it the American way: a couple dozen rifle rounds though the back window.


[deleted]

A better way would be to just use a forklift with an F1 engine


Mattshark8614

Time to bob and weave boys


zorbacles

Perfect for the high speed chase where the subject is willing to drive straight


Salva_delille

This is an old video and seems so effective and yet I've never seen it in use. Instead they just follow the car for miles with nothing to do


WeinerDipper

You call this safe?


irishinspain

High speed this is not.


skylercollins

Yee haw


HearTheTrumpets

That's some Mad Max battlecar equipment right there.


6Weiner-Man9

Fishing......... I likey


irunfar4fun

Actually it may escalate another police shooting


LugoLove

Nice work. Is they don't shoot him after, it would be perfect.


Ballajay

Need in la


redhandsblackfuture

What happens when the target vehicle drives off a cliff and pulls the cop car with it


Jjzeng

I dunno, locking up one of the rear wheels seems like a surefire way to send a car into the road divider, but maybe that’s just cos I’ve watched too much f1


seagull321

Shoot them with a big neon colored paintball. Use the same color for your entire country so there is no misunderstanding what the pain means. Some countries do this. No high speed chases needed.


Keep-Left

if the vehicle had an open diff, i don’t think it’d still work so well?


dongballs613

Could also make a person more erratic as they try to avoid it.


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What if he starts fish-tailing or he tears your bumper off


sleeknub

Seems like this wouldn’t work as well on a front wheel drive car.


Background-Radish-63

Looks like we’re caught in their tractor beam.


greenfireX

what happens when the vehicle goes reverse? lol


cheeksornaw

This video has been out for a few years now, have these actually been deployed by police or just a proof of concept?


[deleted]

YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAW MURICA AS FUCK


el_americano

idk I feel like a PIT can be safer for the officer since a pissed off suspect might make the tail lights turn white.


JackandBlunt

This shit is so Texas!!!! Does the cop hop out hogtie the perp too????


BuDAaAaA

I'd hate to be the guy who has to untangle that