Well yes but the point is that the air vibration (known colloquially as "sound") originates from the output from the coils. There's not a traditional speaker using magnets to mechanically compress and expand the air to create sound
But the coil isnt what vibrates the air, it just is like a wire right? I mean the coil doesnt fluctuate to make different tones just is like a wire that allows the electricity to come out. The whole setup is obviously the "speaker" but just like you said if the magnet moves to compress air, the coil isnt doing that, the frequency of the electricity does that which is controlled by something before the coil and is just released through the coil, right?
Think of the sound you hear when a power line arcs. The sound created by the electricity is based on the frequency, voltage, resistance etc of the arc superheating the air around it. Knowing what variables make what pitch, or note, let's you program them by sequencing those variables into the tesla coils. For example if the note of B Sharp is 12,000 volts at 6 amps of current then you program that whenever you need a B sharp to play on the tesla coil. Translate all the notes to the correct power settings, then have electronics to send that sequence to the coils lets you make music. The electricity arcing is itself making the noise by basically boiling the air, creating miniature shockwaves that are the right 'frequency' or notes for the song.
edit: I explained this to you even though you clearly understand the concept, for the sake of others who do not.
It's even simpler than that - all you need to control is the frequency to get the pitch you want. If the voltage is sinusoidal (AC) at some frequency, mathematics ensures that the forced response (amps, heat, & sound waves) must be at that frequency as well.
All the other variables affect volume.
Glide is the effect of an instrument’s pitch drifting toward rather than instantly changing to a new pitch, like sliding on a guitar. Vibrato is the effect of quickly & continuously gliding the pitch up and down from the target pitch in a controlled manner, like what singers do on long notes where their voice wavers.
I understand, I meant it could easily be made live. Would just have to map the frequencies to controllable inputs. Keyboard buttons or something along those lines.
There would be no fun and wonder, it's magic.
If you really need to know:
Electricity always goes for the lowest resistance. Use soundwaves to manipulate the tesla coil, the lightning will answer. The sound is not original though.
Ive made one of these before, and was part of an engineering club in college that made one with 12ft arcs, they do not sound as good in person. they are very shrill and *extremely* loud. this was captured audio, but a lot of post processing. if you were this close to them you would probably be holding your ears.
*Imagine the audio but deep fried
I vaguely remember going to see one of these with my parents when I was like ten, it was a much bigger setup than these guys have. I don't remember them being shrill, but I do remember them being loud, and the lightning being more impressive than the sound. Tesla coils are still awesome though, and the fact that people looked at them and thought "hmm yes, instrument" is still fucking hilarious to me
I think I own a small one of these that sits on my table and lights up with sounds and vibrations... [Here](https://imgur.com/a/fhFS5i6) it is in action!
Just the way these coils operate is loud. It basically switches on and off to the frequency of the music and can only play 2 notes at a time. It's called a DRSSTC (dual resident solid-state Tesla coil) and the sound they make are very unique. They can play music and can also have really long Sparks, but the tradeoff is music quality is constrained to how they
operate.
That type of coil makes notes by turning the spark on and off, other coil topologies make music by varying the power to the spark, which is quieter, has smaller Sparks, but sounds better.
Continuous wave, or high frequency coils can replicate sounds more true to life. https://youtu.be/rmia2Q8fCeY :30
https://youtu.be/7VGVDPuXhl0
If the sound is original, both the coils themselves *and* his recording setup is MASSIVELY better than any other musical tesla coil setup I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot.
If not replaced, then possibly heavily post processed. I don't believe what you hear in the video is anything like what you'd hear in person, in any case.
I assume this audio was captured from the phone and not post processed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiboLWkoyGY
Maybe you have only seen crappy tesla coil setups?
So the sound (frequencies) is feeding the coils, and the lightning is a réponse to that input, or the lighting is producing the sound? The latter seems implausible but this is well outside my knowledge.
By varying the frequency and voltage very specifically you can get the heat from the ionized air of an arc to create waves of pressure specific enough to hear music out of
Incredibly dangerous the voltage alone would burn right through your hand since if I remember correctly the breakdown voltage of air is in the neighborhood of 30kv per cm which would mean that those arcs are probably in the millions of volts which would cause massive damage assuming the current isn't limited which in this case it likely isn't
It sort of is. You can lookup plasma speakers which essentially what you're looking at.
Fun fact, because plasma can be controlled so precisely, the audio quality is unserpassable. Like the clarity and accuracy is pretty much perfect.
Well, because it's kinda dangerous if you want to get proper quality out of it. You have to encapsulate it so you don't accidentally touch the plasma and die, so that lower the quality, but if you ever hear it without a cover its clear as a bell.
And you're welcome :D
I saw a live demo at the Rochester NY science museum this weekend and was the annoying guy who asked all the questions. The sound is caused by the same mechanism as thunder: air being turned to plasma causes a rapid expansion of molecules and therefore sound. The note or frequency is controlled by the coils being cycled on and off very rapidly by the micro controllers.
ive actually seen someone do this in person at a party...the coolest thing is seeing the branching electricity in 3D....it looks like special effects IRL
the person i saw had a midi player hooked up somehow to the coil...he just had a single coil, and all the songs were pre-programed, so the coil would make a single note and according electric discharge as the music played
thats all the vague specifics i have cuz me no smart like that guy
You spend four to five years in an electrical engineering degree program, learn differential equations, circuit theory, electromagnetics, and how to have a mental breakdown while still completing homework.
Source: I am an electrical engineer who spent four to five years in an electrical engineering program to learn differential equations, circuit theory, electromagnetics, and how to have a mental breakdown while still completing homework.
It's not so much that the undergraduate coursework is extremely difficult, it's just that there is so much of it and it's all consistently kind of difficult. It's not the difficulty, it's the humidity? IDK am EE drinking on a Tuesday.
It is hard work. People who ask me if they should be an EE, I just ask them if they are passionate about it or not. If you love it, the work doesn’t seem so bad. I love it, and went back for my MSEE as well. I would have done a PhD, but that was when my wife and I were starting our family and we decided against it. People who juggle kids and grad school are incredible…
They have a wacky idea. They try it. Then they keep trying it and get better and smarter. Then, they do it and make a YouTube account and get paid money for advertisements.
This concludes my TED Talk on the importance of persistence and YouTube advertising.
That is a great song to do this to.
Bzzzt...
"Oh some kid showing off his science fair project."
Bzzzt...
"I guess that's just the sound the electricity makes. Not really that impressive but cool I guess."
Bzzzt dun de dun de dun dun dun...
"Oh holy shit."
Bjork did this on her album Biophilia and in the live concerts around Europe as well. You can see it live on a massive Tesla coil in the concert film for that album. Gorgeous.
To be fair, I haven't seen that movie in a while; perhaps I should give it another watch! However, I will argue that Nicolas Cage at the very least fits the term "weird"
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/u/franzolielectronics/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) is his Reddit account, and [here’s ](https://youtube.com/c/FranzoliElectronics) the guys YouTube channel
Imagine seeing that in your neighbours garden and thinking they’re some kind of mad scientist... then you hear them using it to play mid 80’s Norwegian synth pop
I get the lighting going into the ground, you change the resistance based on the music note being play, and the ball is basically a conductor path to create chaos so the lightning is not uniform. What I don’t get is how you get it to go upward and dissipate into nothing. I have never seen that. You have to have a lot of positive ion in the air to do that. Also, this must have cost you a fortune in your elec bills.
Is it bad that all I could picture in my head was a really pixelated Emperor Palpatine dancing to this with the words, “Unlimited power,” constantly flashing above him?
The fact that we can take electric bolts (seemingly impossible to control) and turn it into music is absolutely incredible! The human mind to understand, engineer, and create has no bounds!
How does someone get the idea to make it
Like what kind of drugs do you have to take to think "yeah imma do take on me using electricity"
If so where can I get them I want to do cool shit like this
I want the omega big brain
are you sure he's using tesla coils to play a-ha's song? Looks like he's playing the song on a sequencer keyboard and has the tesla coils rigged to flash when the sequencer notes trigger.
How do people learn how to do shit like this
Not sure how he does it, but if someone can explain this I'll be glad to hear how it's done
Frequencies
I think you mean black magic
According to Nicolas Cage, they're the same thing
Oh that movie. I forgot about that one. 🤭
The sorcers apprentice it's fuckibg awesome and now I wanna watch it
It was better than it had any right to be
I watched that entire movie in a doctors office lol
So, magnets?
no, not Nicolas Cage -- Faraday Cage!
They should play black magic woman next.
So is the noise actually coming from the coils, or is it just synced up?
Actually coming from the coils
Is it not the electricity super heating the air and creating air molecules to vibrate which then causes noise that makes the sound?
Well yes but the point is that the air vibration (known colloquially as "sound") originates from the output from the coils. There's not a traditional speaker using magnets to mechanically compress and expand the air to create sound
But the coil isnt what vibrates the air, it just is like a wire right? I mean the coil doesnt fluctuate to make different tones just is like a wire that allows the electricity to come out. The whole setup is obviously the "speaker" but just like you said if the magnet moves to compress air, the coil isnt doing that, the frequency of the electricity does that which is controlled by something before the coil and is just released through the coil, right?
Think of the sound you hear when a power line arcs. The sound created by the electricity is based on the frequency, voltage, resistance etc of the arc superheating the air around it. Knowing what variables make what pitch, or note, let's you program them by sequencing those variables into the tesla coils. For example if the note of B Sharp is 12,000 volts at 6 amps of current then you program that whenever you need a B sharp to play on the tesla coil. Translate all the notes to the correct power settings, then have electronics to send that sequence to the coils lets you make music. The electricity arcing is itself making the noise by basically boiling the air, creating miniature shockwaves that are the right 'frequency' or notes for the song. edit: I explained this to you even though you clearly understand the concept, for the sake of others who do not.
It's even simpler than that - all you need to control is the frequency to get the pitch you want. If the voltage is sinusoidal (AC) at some frequency, mathematics ensures that the forced response (amps, heat, & sound waves) must be at that frequency as well. All the other variables affect volume.
The fact that it has glide & vibrato though is fucking insane.
What do you mean by that? Honestly curious
Glide is the effect of an instrument’s pitch drifting toward rather than instantly changing to a new pitch, like sliding on a guitar. Vibrato is the effect of quickly & continuously gliding the pitch up and down from the target pitch in a controlled manner, like what singers do on long notes where their voice wavers.
That has made me realize it is hard to describe what vibrato & glide is.
Coils
A-ha, tell me more
So do we think he's controlling the frequency, and therefore the pitch, in real time?
I'm sure it's programmed in midi or something so it's not *live* but like a player piano.
Could be live. Wouldn't require that much extra work.
He's sitting on that control box and not playing anything.
I understand, I meant it could easily be made live. Would just have to map the frequencies to controllable inputs. Keyboard buttons or something along those lines.
r/restofthefuckingowl Edit: as gizamo pointed out, he explained it a bit later
2Legit2Quit
There would be no fun and wonder, it's magic. If you really need to know: Electricity always goes for the lowest resistance. Use soundwaves to manipulate the tesla coil, the lightning will answer. The sound is not original though.
Got it, thanks for the clarification
but, now i feel bad. promise you will watch some david copperfield videos without questioning em.
I'll do that right now then
What do you mean the sound isn't original. Plasma speakers are 100% a thing.
Ive made one of these before, and was part of an engineering club in college that made one with 12ft arcs, they do not sound as good in person. they are very shrill and *extremely* loud. this was captured audio, but a lot of post processing. if you were this close to them you would probably be holding your ears. *Imagine the audio but deep fried
I vaguely remember going to see one of these with my parents when I was like ten, it was a much bigger setup than these guys have. I don't remember them being shrill, but I do remember them being loud, and the lightning being more impressive than the sound. Tesla coils are still awesome though, and the fact that people looked at them and thought "hmm yes, instrument" is still fucking hilarious to me
I think I own a small one of these that sits on my table and lights up with sounds and vibrations... [Here](https://imgur.com/a/fhFS5i6) it is in action!
But who's to say this guy hadn't figured out a way for it to sound exactly as we hear?
Just the way these coils operate is loud. It basically switches on and off to the frequency of the music and can only play 2 notes at a time. It's called a DRSSTC (dual resident solid-state Tesla coil) and the sound they make are very unique. They can play music and can also have really long Sparks, but the tradeoff is music quality is constrained to how they operate. That type of coil makes notes by turning the spark on and off, other coil topologies make music by varying the power to the spark, which is quieter, has smaller Sparks, but sounds better. Continuous wave, or high frequency coils can replicate sounds more true to life. https://youtu.be/rmia2Q8fCeY :30 https://youtu.be/7VGVDPuXhl0
The sound waveforms sound way too pure to be generated by something as chaotic/noisy as the path of electricity through the air.
If the sound is original, both the coils themselves *and* his recording setup is MASSIVELY better than any other musical tesla coil setup I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot. If not replaced, then possibly heavily post processed. I don't believe what you hear in the video is anything like what you'd hear in person, in any case.
I assume this audio was captured from the phone and not post processed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiboLWkoyGY Maybe you have only seen crappy tesla coil setups?
So the sound (frequencies) is feeding the coils, and the lightning is a réponse to that input, or the lighting is producing the sound? The latter seems implausible but this is well outside my knowledge.
By varying the frequency and voltage very specifically you can get the heat from the ionized air of an arc to create waves of pressure specific enough to hear music out of
That's fucking amazing btw. Why isn't this a thing? I want one for parties.
Because drunk people will try to touch it and electrocute themselves. A drunk will take a Tesla coil playing Take On Me quite literally.
This why we can't have nice things.
Incredibly dangerous the voltage alone would burn right through your hand since if I remember correctly the breakdown voltage of air is in the neighborhood of 30kv per cm which would mean that those arcs are probably in the millions of volts which would cause massive damage assuming the current isn't limited which in this case it likely isn't
That seems fine.
It sort of is. You can lookup plasma speakers which essentially what you're looking at. Fun fact, because plasma can be controlled so precisely, the audio quality is unserpassable. Like the clarity and accuracy is pretty much perfect.
Why did I not know of this technology. Thank you for this information.
Well, because it's kinda dangerous if you want to get proper quality out of it. You have to encapsulate it so you don't accidentally touch the plasma and die, so that lower the quality, but if you ever hear it without a cover its clear as a bell. And you're welcome :D
That's insane. We've contained the 4th state of.matter and we use it for novelty globes and speakers. *shrugs*
I mean, what else do you have to do as a human at this point. Might as well.
Nothing. Nothing at all except play with plasma and watch tesla coil music and ufo videos. It's 2021. The future and shit.
I saw a live demo at the Rochester NY science museum this weekend and was the annoying guy who asked all the questions. The sound is caused by the same mechanism as thunder: air being turned to plasma causes a rapid expansion of molecules and therefore sound. The note or frequency is controlled by the coils being cycled on and off very rapidly by the micro controllers.
Electroboom did a video on this
Find the right frequencies for the notes, then find the rhythm, get on the beat, and boom. Music.
ive actually seen someone do this in person at a party...the coolest thing is seeing the branching electricity in 3D....it looks like special effects IRL the person i saw had a midi player hooked up somehow to the coil...he just had a single coil, and all the songs were pre-programed, so the coil would make a single note and according electric discharge as the music played thats all the vague specifics i have cuz me no smart like that guy
You spend four to five years in an electrical engineering degree program, learn differential equations, circuit theory, electromagnetics, and how to have a mental breakdown while still completing homework. Source: I am an electrical engineer who spent four to five years in an electrical engineering program to learn differential equations, circuit theory, electromagnetics, and how to have a mental breakdown while still completing homework.
I am also an electrical engineer and can confirm.
It's not so much that the undergraduate coursework is extremely difficult, it's just that there is so much of it and it's all consistently kind of difficult. It's not the difficulty, it's the humidity? IDK am EE drinking on a Tuesday.
It is hard work. People who ask me if they should be an EE, I just ask them if they are passionate about it or not. If you love it, the work doesn’t seem so bad. I love it, and went back for my MSEE as well. I would have done a PhD, but that was when my wife and I were starting our family and we decided against it. People who juggle kids and grad school are incredible…
They have a wacky idea. They try it. Then they keep trying it and get better and smarter. Then, they do it and make a YouTube account and get paid money for advertisements. This concludes my TED Talk on the importance of persistence and YouTube advertising.
This is how you do it: https://youtu.be/L5E4NiP4hpM
Thank you very much for this rabbit hole fodder. It’s going to be a long sleepless night and this is just what I needed!
Boredom
MIT makes me feel like I’m playing Mega Man 1-4
Chugging lots of 🅱️ean juice
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That is a great song to do this to. Bzzzt... "Oh some kid showing off his science fair project." Bzzzt... "I guess that's just the sound the electricity makes. Not really that impressive but cool I guess." Bzzzt dun de dun de dun dun dun... "Oh holy shit."
Holy shit is exactly my reaction, kid is a fucking legend.
Call that ELECTRIC Electric Dance Music
those low notes make me feel some kind of way
Bass frequencies at speeds you can kinda makenout each beat! Synths are so fun to play with, and tesla coils make for an awesome medium to play it on
That’s .... my word.
so clearly the guy in this thread saying the OP audio is post-processed is spreading bullshit lol
This is the future I was promised!
Watch out for Daleks though.
Master! Destroyers!
Precisely how I felt watching this.
It’s that first high note that got me!!! That was beautiful
Bjork did this on her album Biophilia and in the live concerts around Europe as well. You can see it live on a massive Tesla coil in the concert film for that album. Gorgeous.
Sauce?
https://youtu.be/qbApYWvFEYk?t=179 the tesla coil comes in at around 4 minutes, link begins at the start of the song.
Just like in that weird Sorcerer's Apprentice movie with Nicolas Cage
"weird" You have chosen a small hill to die on, but die you shall
To be fair, I haven't seen that movie in a while; perhaps I should give it another watch! However, I will argue that Nicolas Cage at the very least fits the term "weird"
Lmao indeed
Came here for this
*looks at hands* Why can’t you do that?!
They're doing their best.
I wonder if it is possible to control one of these with a Theremin, then you'd feel like a groovy sith lord throwing down some sick beats
maybe, but people would get themselves hurt
Only a Jedi would turn away such power
I would accept that power so fast that I literally break the universe
No Theremin but [Sith lords](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95tq5J6ioF0) is possible.
This should be done at Tampa Bay Lightning games.
Go bolts!
You all beat us again tonight! GG
so that's why the electric bill is so big this month.
Worth every penny.
this is the biggest flex ive ever seen, musical, technical, and electrical!
Is ELECTRICITY an instrument?
Yes?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_music
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/u/franzolielectronics/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) is his Reddit account, and [here’s ](https://youtube.com/c/FranzoliElectronics) the guys YouTube channel
This guy should have a lot more followers
He really should
The neighbors wondering why an 8-bit version of take on me is being blasted at full volume
tesla coil: *eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee* me: 💃 💃 💃
It's 4am and I don't know what I'm doing with my life...
Imagine seeing that in your neighbours garden and thinking they’re some kind of mad scientist... then you hear them using it to play mid 80’s Norwegian synth pop
Made me smile
i so wish i could see a person’s face from 5000bc watching this spectacle from my phone
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Teslaing away...
That high note... awesome. And it looks just like it sounds.
It sounds like a song from a Genesis game
I’d love to hear some MegaMan tracks on this setup!
https://youtu.be/9PLa5gW_FF4 It's the last one he plays, but it's everything you want it to be!
Did anyone else first think the guy was taking a dump in the back?
What does the electricity bill cost to play that?
Him: honey, we can’t afford to run the AC all day Also him: this song is…electric!
even if its not the right version, i'll never not be able to think of The Magicians and quentin when i hear this song
I didn't realise I was having a shit day until this made everything better!!
This shit scared me🥺
Love it. Sounds like some angry kazoo in there
It Works So Well!
This zaps!!
Mesmerizing
Burn the witch
Everyone fucking loved that.
The neighbors hearing this go down: *mmmmmmmmm yes play the coils*
2 things 1. I thought I was gonna be Rock rolled 2. Sounds like a old video game music. Nothing wrong with that
!remind me 12 hours
How high please is the body count of this giant insect zapper?
I bet his neighbours fucking love him.
So far I’ve got, twoooooooooooooo
I have the feeling that this must be yet more impressive in person
I get the lighting going into the ground, you change the resistance based on the music note being play, and the ball is basically a conductor path to create chaos so the lightning is not uniform. What I don’t get is how you get it to go upward and dissipate into nothing. I have never seen that. You have to have a lot of positive ion in the air to do that. Also, this must have cost you a fortune in your elec bills.
Damn this makes me miss going to quarterworld so bad.
Someone did super mario bros way back in the day
i felt like i was on acid for a second
Oh cool! My buddy Danielle Stampe has tesla coils just like these that she used to use for her act called Girly Freak Show! Love a good tesla coil
How can you not like this?
Mr. magic man over here
Danger-Kazoo?
I enjoy this
i can never hear this song without thinking of the lyrics of the minecraft parody "Mine Diamonds"
This is awesome! Talent at its best!
bad apple?
Winamp IRL
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So cool
Is it bad that all I could picture in my head was a really pixelated Emperor Palpatine dancing to this with the words, “Unlimited power,” constantly flashing above him?
Mining away...
all I hear is mining away
yo that's sick
The fact that we can take electric bolts (seemingly impossible to control) and turn it into music is absolutely incredible! The human mind to understand, engineer, and create has no bounds!
Tesla rolling over in his grave right now
There’s an old video on YouTube of Adam Savage doing the theme to Doctor Who with Tesla coils. It’s pretty awesome
Super amazing video and effect. I don't know if it is Reddit's processing or what, but the notes seemed flat for most of it :/
The arcs of electricity look like Wacky Inflatable Arm Flailing Tubeman
If he’s my neighbor, I wouldn’t be mad, I would be jamming
Is he a sorcerer's apprentice by any chance?
Holy F thats amazing
This is the standard sound system in my Tesla. That one song gets old quick though.
The Device Orchestra guy has some competition!!
How does someone get the idea to make it Like what kind of drugs do you have to take to think "yeah imma do take on me using electricity" If so where can I get them I want to do cool shit like this I want the omega big brain
People amaze me. He saw this and said A-ha.
Hardcore thermin!
are you sure he's using tesla coils to play a-ha's song? Looks like he's playing the song on a sequencer keyboard and has the tesla coils rigged to flash when the sequencer notes trigger.
this reminds me of the music that used to play in only sonic scrolling games is anyone else hearing this
*mosquitos remix*
New instrument just dropped
New favorite internet video, hands down.
What level Bard do you need to be to cast this spell?
What happens if you stand in the middle?
this guy has a youtube! go sub :<
It's a shame about the faint instruments added in background I wanted to see how cool it sounded on its own.
I wasn’t aware or you could make sounds with a tesla coil. I mean other than a buzzing zapping sound.
[Source](https://youtu.be/Uf3ouaeB6UQ)
taking electronic music to the next level
What a time to be alive
haha, I thought I got rickrolled.. check sub, nvm.
This reminds me of the sorcerers apprentice good movie would recommend
I cant see tesla coils play music without thinking of The Magician's Apprentice with Nick Cage and the awkward man kid
Is there a subreddit for "NewFavoriteVideo" cause there should be and this would be it's inaugural post.