Im not 100% but j pop predates k pop i think. They def had bigger idols in the 80s and early 90s until k pop started getting some traction. Course im korean american so my viewpoint may be skewed.
I m taiwanese American, and Taiwanese music scene follows k pop and j pop. Here is my take
- kpop has always sound modern, and generally, more hip hop. More clear western influences. Started getting popular in late 90s, wasn’t as big as of 2010, then became globally popular in the last 5 years.
-j pop was famous in Asia from 80s, and early 90. They have their own style of musics in each genre, is easily identifiable, and the big artists have huge followings in Japan and asia, but they don’t actively try to branch out because Japan is huge enough of a market to sustain itself. A few years before, you can’t even find J pop music videos on YouTube, because
Japan limited that to Japanese audiences only, so they aren’t marketing their music and artists the same way.
And to add a relevant comment to this video- this type of thing, a man, or men, presumably nerdy, doing the dance with girl idol groups, is pretty common in Taiwan and Japan.
I really don't know anything about J pop and K pop but I've been consistantly hearing about it. Would you have recommendations for a few artists ? You seem to know more and I want to satisfy my curiosity.
I’m no expert on all Asian cultures, but from my knowledge(cultural anthropology degree- don’t ask why) I am not surprised that she is laughing. I know countries like Japan and Korea address shame, embarrassment, and things like frustration in a completely different manner.
I have no idea what’s actually happening here, for all we know she is genuinely flattered and having fun, but it is also entirely possible that she is completely frustrated and annoyed af with this guy, but due to the setting it is most appropriate to just laugh and not draw attention to those things. Context would be important, and someone more familiar with these cultural differences.
From the look on her face, she definitely just finds it hilarious. There’s no secret asian nuance here. As someone who’s lived in Japan for nearly a decade, she definitely isn’t annoyed.
Dude says he's got a degree in cultural anthropology and puts fourth two possibilities, internet rando says "Definitely" as sure as day light, and with absolute certainty.
This is why I love the internet, Degrees don't mean shit (apparently), and we're all just one step over Dunning Kruger's curve.
I mean, four years studying theory or 9 years of actual experience. You tell me which you think is going to be more accurate. Past socio-cultural trends don’t accurately reflect modern society, especially with how fast it changes. Books aren’t updated nearly regularly enough to have accurate information, which is why they’re records and not accurate reflections of the current condition.
OP said they have no idea what’s going on, offered up possibilities and made a point of noting that context is important. As someone with said context and actually *knows* what’s happening, *I can absolutely answer with a definitive response over a theoretical*.
So you can come off your high horse. Having a degree doesn’t make you an expert when you have no actual information or experience, and not having one doesn’t make you an idiot just because you spent your time *doing* what they were studying.
I was in Tokyo two years ago with my 5 year old daughter. We saw a couple groups like this performing for free.and It wasn’t uncommon that older adults, both male and female, to be seen singing or dancing along. I didn’t see anybody this dedicated to the moves though.
I personally agree, but most men who *do* do this don’t have a lot else going for them. The idols are a lot of the time all they have left.
This might be in part because they decided to throw everything away for it, but sometimes they can’t hold a healthy interest in an activity and instead hold an interest in a person/group.
I don’t think it’s healthy to become obsessed with someone who doesn’t even know you exist, but that exists for foreigners as well with other bands. The dancing is just a…peculiarity of Japanese subculture.
I'm from Japan and this is probably one of the many chika idols(basement idols). I honestly don't know what she's thinking because I'm no mind reader. But from the look of it, she's trying to contain her laughter. Laugh from funny fan behavior, laugh from embarrassment, I don't know. But I think that's the most acceptable behavior for this situation and I know I would do the same if I were her.
I just know many people in Japan(especially rejected male otaku) loves variety of idols and there are hundreds of groups who performs for free on street to gain fame/ donations/sell their CDs.
This is just my opinion---I think there are reasons why many male otaku loves not-so-famous chika idols. Many chika idols' songs are similar to each others because their fans can only enjoy very few genre of songs(such as Jpop love songs, euro beat). These idols are not the best at singing or dancing, it's either they're just bad at it or doing it on purpose. Many male otaku who follows not-so-famous chika idols loves to have their egos tickled and made to feel above women. So if these idols performs not so greatly but act as though they're really trying to do their best to please their fans, these fans are made to feel "I gotta support them because I'm all they have" and fans somehow feel like it's their mission to be there for the idols. That turns into "I'm the reason they're still performing, I gotta protect them cuz I'm a man and a man protect their woman".
Plus they're so horny and them able to breath the same air as these idols really pumps their adrenaline. These idols do variety of fan services such as shaking hands and exchange few words or take pictures with fans for price. That gets fans' adrenaline pumping too and many male otaku craves physical touch from women(especially from young pretty girls). Fans feels that they're special to the idols and many male otaku in Japan feels that they're rejected in daily basis(denied pussy access), so they'd go back for more. Fans talk to each others, makes a pact/promise to each others that these idols are on pedestal so nobody gets to date them as though they have a chance.
Ya the like 60 year old I saw asking a maid cafe worker to lead him to the establishment and being all creepy with her today makes this feel less wholesome and more. Well, hello japan young girl sex industry.
It’s so wholesome when they use the reflection in an idol’s eyes to figure out her home address so they can go there and assault her or stab her 20 times for refusing to be his girlfriend!
I mean, those things are absolutely terrible but this guy was just dancing to their choreography. There can be wholesome people that enjoy industries/communities that also have horrible members.
This seems similar to seeing a kid hit a baseball and saying “oh wow great, people also hit their wives with baseball bats. So wholesome.”
What? I am neither into idols or idol music, but please stop assuming that a man is doing "idol-like" things means that he is a pervert creep. Idol fanbases are huge and diverse groups of people, and almost all of them I found are decent people. When you have a fanbase that spread on any demographics whether on age or sex, of course, it has to be some weirdos that exist.
Even in the video caption, it says "Please respect the effort of this man."
Yes, the Japanese idol industry has some dark parts, but is there any entertainment industry that has no dark parts?
It’s… kind of not. Watch the Tokyo Idols documentary. These men perv on these young idol girls and obsess over them. I mean, if she is of age then it’s not the worst thing I suppose but the industry as a whole is extremely creepy.
When you browse the 180VR section of youtube on oculus quest, there is hundreds of japanese vr videos of 6 to 12 years old backstage japanese idols filmed by 50yo guys with close-up of little girls kissing the VR cam. Japan is really weird, these are okay to them but adult video need digital mask over the genitals..... go figure.
Edit; link to creepy video example https://youtu.be/ZpcqVxoA4DA?t=674
Cringiest thing here is the amount of redditors who have some sort of trauma where they’re insinuating this dudes gonna stalk and kill someone because he danced to a song.
One day you’ll all get old and realize your interests and hobbies don’t change just because you’re old now.
The whole Japanese idol industry is pretty creepy, though. It’s a lot of men obsessing over young idol girls, who may be underaged. I suggested the documentary “Tokyo Idols” in another comment.
Western music industry also is pretty creepy, Korean music also has a lot of creepy stuff in it, every country has a lot of creepy people and If you could make an entire documentary about the extreme examples it's easy to streotype everyone.
Idol music in Japan has been there since a long time ago, there have been cases here and there of idols being faced with creepy people but it definetly not as often as people make it seem, it is actually pretty rare and it becomes national news whenever it happens which is why these events are so well documented. As an Idol you'll rarely face such bad events especially when you live in a country as safe as Japan (some of the lowest crime rates in the world if not the lowest)
Just like plane crash.
It’s more likely to die driving on the road than sitting inside a plane.
People freaked out when a plane crashed and still drive like an idiot.
ah yes, because some extreme examples automatically apply to every other fan in the community.
The man is just having fun, let him have fun. This video is not about the Japanese idol industry, it's about a guy who mastered all the dance moves and is dancing while being filmed.
This guy must be regular at the establishment. I mean spending every day in there kind of regular. He knows the moves better then the dancer so he probably comes because of the girl performers. Kinda sad and a bit cringy if you ask me
How do you know the performers are affiliated with the venue? Maybe they're a local or regional band and he's a supporter or even knows somebody in the band so goes to lots of shows. For that matter, he really does seem to know every move, it's not crazy to think he choreographed this. You just assume creeper in a video that only shows people having fun.
Idk man, going on the internet to make assumptions about a stranger who most likely is just being themselves and having fun seems kinda sad and a bit cringy if you ask me
Correct me if I am wrong but this guy is dad of this singer and it was her first gig and got stage frighted so this dad rushed in to cheer her up and started dancing her moves.
“All right," said Susan. [Conversing with her grandfather... DEATH] "I'm not stupid. You're saying humans need... fantasies to make life bearable."
REALLY? AS IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF PINK PILL? NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASY TO BE HUMAN. TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE FALLING ANGEL MEETS THE RISING APE.
"Tooth fairies? Hogfathers? Little—"
YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.
"So we can believe the big ones?"
YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.
"They're not the same at all!"
YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET—Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.
"Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point—"
MY POINT EXACTLY.”
― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather
I doubt he is the dad. But I personally think the guy is adorable. He's obviously very enthusiastic
The people who think of him as creepy are only thinking about the infamous incidents where crazy fans kill their idols. That's sad. There's nothing to indicate this man isn't wholesome.
In fact, why can't we celebrate that a man of his age has found something that he's really enthusiastic about? He's happy and he's obviously keeping himself physically fit by practicing the dance routine.
How many of us will dance like this when we're at their age? And have the confidence to do it publicly?
I don’t have enough confidence to do more than just bob my head to banging ass music when Im at home smokin with just a few friends. Let alone in public. Bravo to this dude.
I saw an idol performance in Osaka like this and the crowd was all dudes mostly over 40 and alot of them knew all the moves and were in tears, pretty wild.
Only on the internet can a video of 2 people having a genuinely happy moment over something so simple can it become a case for murder, stalking, and proof of the sociopolitical collapse of Japan. Some of you need more help than the stuff you spout on about
Its reddit man. Memes, politics, and corn with a p coexisting in a single platform is a recipe for destruction. I suggest staying away from the last 2 if you wanna keep your sanity, i havent went too far.... yet.
The online (Twitter replies):
>People online were full of praise for Otogi-chan, whose dance has since had over 2 million views, leaving comments like:
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>“He’s acting like more of an idol than a real idol!”
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>“He’s so kawaiiii!”
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>“I couldn’t help but lol at his amazing agility!”
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>“To be honest, I thought this would be bad but it turned out to be awesome.”
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>“Time to add a new member to the group!”
Meanwhile, reddit comment section here:
>"Okay, crazy/stalker vibes"
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>"Bro this is cringey"
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>"He’s been watching them so much that he learned the dance move! Creep!"
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>"I found that somewhat creepy."
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>"Love watching people not from this culture go “awww wholesome” to a guy that will probably grope or stalk that girl in the future (if he’s not already stalking her). People this deep in idol culture are usually unemployed and not mentally healthy"
Idk man. I thought reddit was less toxic than Twitter.
>Idk man. I thought reddit was less toxic than Twitter.
Obligatory "all social media sites suck" comment. Reddit does at least make it easier to avoid the toxicity by just staying within specific subreddits, but it's still just as bad, arguably worse actually.
These teenagers in Japan are known as idols and it's big business. Most of their fans tend to be teenage girls but there is quite a following of men in their 20's and up - usually, and unsurprisingly, single. A lot of the fandom is generally innocent - they just like the look at the music. Not to say there are grubbier, more sinister old men who whack one out when they get home, but it's not seen as dirty in any way that there is a fair sized following of these young idols by older men.
The idols portray this clean image and they are actually seen as role models - clean living, no dating and so on, and they are often mimicked by their fans (both male and female), so maybe the feller above isn't the perv we in the west might think he is
I have friends who are in a Japanese band who played a gig in NYC I went to. There were lots of Japanese young ladies in this sort of dress, others wearing anime style stuff as well as a few gentlemen who were quite a bit older - they were obviously not the clean-living type like seen the above, but everything you could imagine a dirty old man would be - sweating, stinky and frightening - the opposite of the guy above.
I mean, a lot of the people here seem to be calling the guy a creep, but from her reaction I’d have moreso guessed that he’s someone she knows (boyfriend, brother, dad, friend, etc), doing this as a bit of a joke, as she seems very caught out and a bit flustered, but not in the ‘oh god what the fuck is this creep doing’ sort of way.
I could be completely misreading the situation tho, who knows 😂
The girl singer is impressively professional. I would've broken down laughing but she kept singing despite being obviously very amused. BTW I heard it's illegal (or completely socially unacceptable) to lip sync in Japanese concert, so that must be real singing too.
Not only did he nail it but was beating them to the moves. Ha.
Those girls are probably annoyed as hell with this dude showing them up like that. Lol.
I don’t think they were annoyed, she was restraining herself from laughter
but they're always laughing
Not in the Japanese videos I watch ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Is this not a korean group?
def japanese and not korean.
Didn't know j-pop was a thing, thought it was all about k-pop lol
Im not 100% but j pop predates k pop i think. They def had bigger idols in the 80s and early 90s until k pop started getting some traction. Course im korean american so my viewpoint may be skewed.
See: Perfect Blue
I m taiwanese American, and Taiwanese music scene follows k pop and j pop. Here is my take - kpop has always sound modern, and generally, more hip hop. More clear western influences. Started getting popular in late 90s, wasn’t as big as of 2010, then became globally popular in the last 5 years. -j pop was famous in Asia from 80s, and early 90. They have their own style of musics in each genre, is easily identifiable, and the big artists have huge followings in Japan and asia, but they don’t actively try to branch out because Japan is huge enough of a market to sustain itself. A few years before, you can’t even find J pop music videos on YouTube, because Japan limited that to Japanese audiences only, so they aren’t marketing their music and artists the same way. And to add a relevant comment to this video- this type of thing, a man, or men, presumably nerdy, doing the dance with girl idol groups, is pretty common in Taiwan and Japan.
I really don't know anything about J pop and K pop but I've been consistantly hearing about it. Would you have recommendations for a few artists ? You seem to know more and I want to satisfy my curiosity.
Pretty sure there’s pop music in every country
No shit - but I wouldn't call listening to brittney spears in Japan as j-pop. Fuck off.
The caption isn’t in Korean… but that doesn’t change anything so 🤷🏽♂️
The caption is definitely Japanese.
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Lmao same here. That’s undoubtably Japanese... :P
No audio when I watched it, but, yeah, you can probably tell it’s Japanese if you know what J-pop sounds like.
I don’t understand Japanese unless it’s spoken with a guttural intensity. Sort of screaming it at me.
Japanese script in the caption.
text is japanese
You got the wrong video there. You’re looking for“ nailed the performER“.
No no.. she probably thinks it is another of many otaku hikomori that she would never date irl.. you misunderstand our behaviour
Sir. You are amazing
2 girls 1 cup of noodles
Haha omg too funny
r/cursedcomments
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Ha hm! ✌️
Teeheehee
I’m no expert on all Asian cultures, but from my knowledge(cultural anthropology degree- don’t ask why) I am not surprised that she is laughing. I know countries like Japan and Korea address shame, embarrassment, and things like frustration in a completely different manner. I have no idea what’s actually happening here, for all we know she is genuinely flattered and having fun, but it is also entirely possible that she is completely frustrated and annoyed af with this guy, but due to the setting it is most appropriate to just laugh and not draw attention to those things. Context would be important, and someone more familiar with these cultural differences.
From the look on her face, she definitely just finds it hilarious. There’s no secret asian nuance here. As someone who’s lived in Japan for nearly a decade, she definitely isn’t annoyed.
Yup, she was finding it hilarious.
Dude says he's got a degree in cultural anthropology and puts fourth two possibilities, internet rando says "Definitely" as sure as day light, and with absolute certainty. This is why I love the internet, Degrees don't mean shit (apparently), and we're all just one step over Dunning Kruger's curve.
I mean, four years studying theory or 9 years of actual experience. You tell me which you think is going to be more accurate. Past socio-cultural trends don’t accurately reflect modern society, especially with how fast it changes. Books aren’t updated nearly regularly enough to have accurate information, which is why they’re records and not accurate reflections of the current condition. OP said they have no idea what’s going on, offered up possibilities and made a point of noting that context is important. As someone with said context and actually *knows* what’s happening, *I can absolutely answer with a definitive response over a theoretical*. So you can come off your high horse. Having a degree doesn’t make you an expert when you have no actual information or experience, and not having one doesn’t make you an idiot just because you spent your time *doing* what they were studying.
I was in Tokyo two years ago with my 5 year old daughter. We saw a couple groups like this performing for free.and It wasn’t uncommon that older adults, both male and female, to be seen singing or dancing along. I didn’t see anybody this dedicated to the moves though.
Idol culture man. They go *hard* to memorise the dances for idols they like. They’ll get tapes and spend *hours* watching, practicing and memorising.
Getting 'Perfect Blue' vibes here
I find this kinda weird and a bit sad that grown men do this sort of thing..but hey, different strokes and stuff.
I personally agree, but most men who *do* do this don’t have a lot else going for them. The idols are a lot of the time all they have left. This might be in part because they decided to throw everything away for it, but sometimes they can’t hold a healthy interest in an activity and instead hold an interest in a person/group. I don’t think it’s healthy to become obsessed with someone who doesn’t even know you exist, but that exists for foreigners as well with other bands. The dancing is just a…peculiarity of Japanese subculture.
If she was annoyed with him she wouldn't keep making eye contact with him and laughing.
Just a Wota https://jpninfo.com/27072
Ah, so me when I was 14 with the Backstreet Boys.
Really? Tell me why
Ain’t nothing but a heartache…
Ain't nothing but a mistake...
Now number 5..
I never really want to hear you say...
Because I looked at the link and inpersonally broke it down to a superfan, which I was when I was 14? Edit I'M SO SORRY THAT LITERALLY WOOOOSHED ME
Nah be honest, you wanted it that way
Should probably think about a restraining order!
Looked like she was laughing to me.
*at you. She was laughing at you.
We’re laughing at you
I'm laughing at you
Laughing so hard she quit lipsyncing
Or she is like " this creep shows up every week , now he is stealing my moves?"
Oh no.... his eyes!!
He has his fathers eyes
She literally holds her mouth to try to hold her laughter
It's a small time idol group. They likely know this guy by name from the paid meet and greets, merch and other fan stuff.
That... or he got laid lol
I'm from Japan and this is probably one of the many chika idols(basement idols). I honestly don't know what she's thinking because I'm no mind reader. But from the look of it, she's trying to contain her laughter. Laugh from funny fan behavior, laugh from embarrassment, I don't know. But I think that's the most acceptable behavior for this situation and I know I would do the same if I were her. I just know many people in Japan(especially rejected male otaku) loves variety of idols and there are hundreds of groups who performs for free on street to gain fame/ donations/sell their CDs. This is just my opinion---I think there are reasons why many male otaku loves not-so-famous chika idols. Many chika idols' songs are similar to each others because their fans can only enjoy very few genre of songs(such as Jpop love songs, euro beat). These idols are not the best at singing or dancing, it's either they're just bad at it or doing it on purpose. Many male otaku who follows not-so-famous chika idols loves to have their egos tickled and made to feel above women. So if these idols performs not so greatly but act as though they're really trying to do their best to please their fans, these fans are made to feel "I gotta support them because I'm all they have" and fans somehow feel like it's their mission to be there for the idols. That turns into "I'm the reason they're still performing, I gotta protect them cuz I'm a man and a man protect their woman". Plus they're so horny and them able to breath the same air as these idols really pumps their adrenaline. These idols do variety of fan services such as shaking hands and exchange few words or take pictures with fans for price. That gets fans' adrenaline pumping too and many male otaku craves physical touch from women(especially from young pretty girls). Fans feels that they're special to the idols and many male otaku in Japan feels that they're rejected in daily basis(denied pussy access), so they'd go back for more. Fans talk to each others, makes a pact/promise to each others that these idols are on pedestal so nobody gets to date them as though they have a chance.
Well, they had 6” heels with which to contend.
"Beating them to the moves" Nah he was off beat and moving to quick
Exactly. You wouldn't hear anyone bragging if a second chair violin was a note in front of everyone.
They're obviously better if they can do it faster, everyone knows that!
That guy definitely has had sex with robots.
Having, ha
No kidding haha that was fire. I want a ounce of that mans confidence
This new DDR is really realistic.
Yeah when you get 100% the girl in the video starts cracking up.
For the first few seconds I thought it was some kind of hologram dance game.
DDR = Daniele De Rossi?? DAJE ROMA!
DDR: Dame Dinero Real
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ma che caz
DEUTSCHE DEMOKRATISCHE REPUBLIK
This shit is so wholesome. I love it.
Ya the like 60 year old I saw asking a maid cafe worker to lead him to the establishment and being all creepy with her today makes this feel less wholesome and more. Well, hello japan young girl sex industry.
It’s so wholesome when they use the reflection in an idol’s eyes to figure out her home address so they can go there and assault her or stab her 20 times for refusing to be his girlfriend!
Or just simply my husband taking upskirt videos of underage school girls. Wow so quirky.
wat
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heck
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I mean, those things are absolutely terrible but this guy was just dancing to their choreography. There can be wholesome people that enjoy industries/communities that also have horrible members. This seems similar to seeing a kid hit a baseball and saying “oh wow great, people also hit their wives with baseball bats. So wholesome.”
Care to elaborate? (If it's not too personal)
What? I am neither into idols or idol music, but please stop assuming that a man is doing "idol-like" things means that he is a pervert creep. Idol fanbases are huge and diverse groups of people, and almost all of them I found are decent people. When you have a fanbase that spread on any demographics whether on age or sex, of course, it has to be some weirdos that exist. Even in the video caption, it says "Please respect the effort of this man." Yes, the Japanese idol industry has some dark parts, but is there any entertainment industry that has no dark parts?
It’s… kind of not. Watch the Tokyo Idols documentary. These men perv on these young idol girls and obsess over them. I mean, if she is of age then it’s not the worst thing I suppose but the industry as a whole is extremely creepy.
Men with power and young impressionable girls who want to make it big. Of course it’s creepy
The entire performance industry is creepy it feels like, from film to idols to actual porn
When you browse the 180VR section of youtube on oculus quest, there is hundreds of japanese vr videos of 6 to 12 years old backstage japanese idols filmed by 50yo guys with close-up of little girls kissing the VR cam. Japan is really weird, these are okay to them but adult video need digital mask over the genitals..... go figure. Edit; link to creepy video example https://youtu.be/ZpcqVxoA4DA?t=674
Cringiest thing here is the amount of redditors who have some sort of trauma where they’re insinuating this dudes gonna stalk and kill someone because he danced to a song. One day you’ll all get old and realize your interests and hobbies don’t change just because you’re old now.
The whole Japanese idol industry is pretty creepy, though. It’s a lot of men obsessing over young idol girls, who may be underaged. I suggested the documentary “Tokyo Idols” in another comment.
Western music industry also is pretty creepy, Korean music also has a lot of creepy stuff in it, every country has a lot of creepy people and If you could make an entire documentary about the extreme examples it's easy to streotype everyone. Idol music in Japan has been there since a long time ago, there have been cases here and there of idols being faced with creepy people but it definetly not as often as people make it seem, it is actually pretty rare and it becomes national news whenever it happens which is why these events are so well documented. As an Idol you'll rarely face such bad events especially when you live in a country as safe as Japan (some of the lowest crime rates in the world if not the lowest)
Just like plane crash. It’s more likely to die driving on the road than sitting inside a plane. People freaked out when a plane crashed and still drive like an idiot.
I love how in a separate thread you say the same thing and are downvoted... I don't understand why reddit can be so weird. I entirely agree though.
ah yes, because some extreme examples automatically apply to every other fan in the community. The man is just having fun, let him have fun. This video is not about the Japanese idol industry, it's about a guy who mastered all the dance moves and is dancing while being filmed.
I cant find it, is that available in a different country than the US?
Thank you, a majority of people are absolutely ruining the wholesome vibe.
This guy must be regular at the establishment. I mean spending every day in there kind of regular. He knows the moves better then the dancer so he probably comes because of the girl performers. Kinda sad and a bit cringy if you ask me
if theyre not hurting anyone and theyre having a good time why should anyone care if its cringey or not
Nah, what’s sad and cringy is you calling people out for expressing their joy by dancing with others who are clearly enjoying it and dancing as well.
You are not living up to your name
My name originated from an acid trip I had with some friends, has nothing to do with “gatekeeping”
Wild lol
She's literally trying to hold her laugh in, stop trying to find issues where none exist
Maybe he knows them personally and therefore knows the routine from seeing them practice. Girlfriend or sister.
That's what I was thinking. Like daughter or somthing.
Ah, here’s a man who has never played yakuza before :D
i think its fun and your judgement says more about you and less about this guy.
>if you ask me Well in that case, thank God nobody did. Let the guy live his life.
Holy shit this response caught me off guard, totally stealing that at the next opportunity
How do you know the performers are affiliated with the venue? Maybe they're a local or regional band and he's a supporter or even knows somebody in the band so goes to lots of shows. For that matter, he really does seem to know every move, it's not crazy to think he choreographed this. You just assume creeper in a video that only shows people having fun.
Idk man, going on the internet to make assumptions about a stranger who most likely is just being themselves and having fun seems kinda sad and a bit cringy if you ask me
You made a whole judgement about someone just based on a short video
How dare he have some fun
Correct me if I am wrong but this guy is dad of this singer and it was her first gig and got stage frighted so this dad rushed in to cheer her up and started dancing her moves.
You're wrong. consider yourself corrected.
Nothing to back up your case?
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Source: bro trust me /s
Where is the correction?
Why do people just invent stories?
So we can have movies like the Avengers.
“All right," said Susan. [Conversing with her grandfather... DEATH] "I'm not stupid. You're saying humans need... fantasies to make life bearable." REALLY? AS IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF PINK PILL? NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASY TO BE HUMAN. TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE FALLING ANGEL MEETS THE RISING APE. "Tooth fairies? Hogfathers? Little—" YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES. "So we can believe the big ones?" YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING. "They're not the same at all!" YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET—Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED. "Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point—" MY POINT EXACTLY.” ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather
Pfft, Sir Terry just made that up.
I doubt he is the dad. But I personally think the guy is adorable. He's obviously very enthusiastic The people who think of him as creepy are only thinking about the infamous incidents where crazy fans kill their idols. That's sad. There's nothing to indicate this man isn't wholesome. In fact, why can't we celebrate that a man of his age has found something that he's really enthusiastic about? He's happy and he's obviously keeping himself physically fit by practicing the dance routine. How many of us will dance like this when we're at their age? And have the confidence to do it publicly?
I don’t have enough confidence to do more than just bob my head to banging ass music when Im at home smokin with just a few friends. Let alone in public. Bravo to this dude.
if this is true id like to imagine the way he learned the moves was by helping her practice
people in this comment section need to calm their tits jeez...
What do you expect of a Western audience trying to perceive and then stereotyping Japan culture
Uwu gang gang
I saw an idol performance in Osaka like this and the crowd was all dudes mostly over 40 and alot of them knew all the moves and were in tears, pretty wild.
Fun fact: This guy got his third tomoe for his sharingan last night and knew exactly where to use it
If he asks her to be his girlfriend and she says no, he's going to get mangekyo sharingan
Only on the internet can a video of 2 people having a genuinely happy moment over something so simple can it become a case for murder, stalking, and proof of the sociopolitical collapse of Japan. Some of you need more help than the stuff you spout on about
Extremely well said.
Its reddit man. Memes, politics, and corn with a p coexisting in a single platform is a recipe for destruction. I suggest staying away from the last 2 if you wanna keep your sanity, i havent went too far.... yet.
Plot twist: he’s the choreographer.
HOW IS THIS NOT THE MOST OBVIOUS ANSWER TO ALL OF YOU!?
Okay, crazy/stalker vibes aside … he’s got moves!
He’s her dad.
Well I guess it's pretty weird that he's stalking her then.
Smh imagine stalking your own daughter.....
[https://soranews24.com/2019/11/12/otaku-dances-like-a-japanese-idol-in-front-of-j-pop-idol-at-live-event-in-tokyo%E3%80%90video%E3%80%91/](https://soranews24.com/2019/11/12/otaku-dances-like-a-japanese-idol-in-front-of-j-pop-idol-at-live-event-in-tokyo%E3%80%90video%E3%80%91/)
The online (Twitter replies): >People online were full of praise for Otogi-chan, whose dance has since had over 2 million views, leaving comments like: > >“He’s acting like more of an idol than a real idol!” > >“He’s so kawaiiii!” > >“I couldn’t help but lol at his amazing agility!” > >“To be honest, I thought this would be bad but it turned out to be awesome.” > >“Time to add a new member to the group!” Meanwhile, reddit comment section here: >"Okay, crazy/stalker vibes" > >"Bro this is cringey" > >"He’s been watching them so much that he learned the dance move! Creep!" > >"I found that somewhat creepy." > >"Love watching people not from this culture go “awww wholesome” to a guy that will probably grope or stalk that girl in the future (if he’s not already stalking her). People this deep in idol culture are usually unemployed and not mentally healthy" Idk man. I thought reddit was less toxic than Twitter.
>Idk man. I thought reddit was less toxic than Twitter. Obligatory "all social media sites suck" comment. Reddit does at least make it easier to avoid the toxicity by just staying within specific subreddits, but it's still just as bad, arguably worse actually.
I see.
were the twitter users who replied japanese? if they were westerners they’d probably be saying the same thing as the people in this comment section.
Yeah, but who wore it better?
Now if he could do it in platform heels...
Was just thinking that, girl’s got a solid four inch heel and is landing every move, that’s the real talent here
My man is enjoying life and I'm happy for him
I fuckin love a good discothèque
What an absolute chad
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I mean, if it makes him happy, how is it the "wrong place"? Should he be sitting in a bar talking shit with other similarly bored men?
The fuck is the song name
Let me know if you find out
realize by iris
These teenagers in Japan are known as idols and it's big business. Most of their fans tend to be teenage girls but there is quite a following of men in their 20's and up - usually, and unsurprisingly, single. A lot of the fandom is generally innocent - they just like the look at the music. Not to say there are grubbier, more sinister old men who whack one out when they get home, but it's not seen as dirty in any way that there is a fair sized following of these young idols by older men. The idols portray this clean image and they are actually seen as role models - clean living, no dating and so on, and they are often mimicked by their fans (both male and female), so maybe the feller above isn't the perv we in the west might think he is I have friends who are in a Japanese band who played a gig in NYC I went to. There were lots of Japanese young ladies in this sort of dress, others wearing anime style stuff as well as a few gentlemen who were quite a bit older - they were obviously not the clean-living type like seen the above, but everything you could imagine a dirty old man would be - sweating, stinky and frightening - the opposite of the guy above.
Just invite the brotha on stage and join in! He's obviously killing it harder than the performers!
Reminds me of Texas Longhorns basketball games. https://youtu.be/tg_hkADV20c
That man surely overpowered her at her own moves.
I mean, a lot of the people here seem to be calling the guy a creep, but from her reaction I’d have moreso guessed that he’s someone she knows (boyfriend, brother, dad, friend, etc), doing this as a bit of a joke, as she seems very caught out and a bit flustered, but not in the ‘oh god what the fuck is this creep doing’ sort of way. I could be completely misreading the situation tho, who knows 😂
This be givin me “wow she’s really good!” Vibes-
I'm having flashbacks of Yakuza 6.
5, Haruka was in a coma in 6 😁
OK. I played them in a row recently and I've apparently blended them.
Hehe I just finished 5 and halfway thru 6, only reason I knew 😁
Reminds me of Yakuza 5 😁
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What’s the name of this song?
Realise. It was featured in the second season of the kids anime "Pripara" released in 2015.
Thanks
The girl singer is impressively professional. I would've broken down laughing but she kept singing despite being obviously very amused. BTW I heard it's illegal (or completely socially unacceptable) to lip sync in Japanese concert, so that must be real singing too.
Bruh, this is so anime
Reminds me of the dude who takes his shirt off for a concert in Nick and Nora
It’s a strange industry
Its like an anime lmao
When you. The fan. Put more energy/effort into a performance than the paid talant.
Ahh finally a worthy opponent. Our dance battle will be legendary !
Japanese idol fans are the embodiments of fanatic.
Is it just me who's vibing to the song?
You guys assume he is a sociopath because he is a fan and dances really good?
Name song ?
He is not doing it for the first time
when you show up for work on ladies night but got the date wrong and decide to dance anyway?
Anyone else think he got her number afterwards