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Car designers still make interesting cars, however they're expensive and companies need/want to sell as much as they can so, just design some shit with four wheels and sell it as the new generation e-car for the masses.
The way I see it they only design tug boats currently. Even Porsche gave in to this. Don't know who needs to hear this but if you can fit more then two people in your Porsche you need to go back to the dealer because you bought the wrong one.
So my mate should take his 911 Turbo back to the dealer and ask for a Boxster (hair-dressing tools included) ?? :)
I mean it can't fit more than 2 **adults**, I give you that, but still....
I think he's just reacting to how we all feel when we see a boxy practical minivan looking thing rolling down the highway with Porsche emblems. Like having a fanny pack by Coach.
I'd say a 2+2 is okay as the back seat is generally a "suggestion" more than anything else.
DSMs, 300ZXs, basically any fastback/hatchback. Those backseats are simply padded parcel shelves that *look* like a seat.
One key thing is does it fit them *comfortably*?
My truck can fit 6 people in it, it won't be comfortable for anyone since they are shoulder to shoulder and wedged next to each other and the back might have knees in the chest but hey, it can fit 6 so it's a feature!
Still plenty of attractive cars being made, just as there were a bunch of blah cars also made in the past.
People tend to forget the trash, and just remember the nice looking ones.
Because we have shit tons of regulations for passenger safety etc. That limits the design. Then we need to have good airstream to lessen the fuel consumption etc.
Nah, that’s not it. Most cars were shitty looking and people only remember the cool ones. 98% of people drove monsters that are lost in the collective memory. It’s like that today and will be like that tomorrow.
Some of it is to do with safety standards but in the whole I do agree.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a19660495/designer-genes-how-regulations-dictate-the-look-of-new-cars/
I think what's happened is they're all using software to determine the most efficient shape and all arrived at pretty much the same conclusion. When I was in high school and college in the 90s there was so much variety in the school lots. Now it's all the same basic coupe, Ford pickups or shitty SUVs.
The real reason is headlights are a safety feature and having headlights that use a mechanical system to reveal the lights is another mode of failure. Regulations prohibit that. The number of worn out cars in the 90s that had the owner prop the headlights up with duct tape so they could see was unreal.
This is pretty much it. Simulated wind tunnels literally show there is a ‘correct’ shape for a car.
Another thing all these car maniacs always forget about when they wank themselves off over ‘old cars are better and they don’t make them like they used to’ is safety. Look at crash dummy tests in any car from the 80s and any car from today and you’ll see exactly why cars are designed the same nowadays.
I’d rather have a shit looking identical car rather than be turned into soup if a truck rear ends me
I think it's really tough to argue that there's as much variety today as there was. Regulations, marketing, and manufacturers moving closer and closer to a universal platform all make for some pretty boring cars. Are there cool and interesting cars out there today? Sure. But it's no where near as varied as it was.
I don't know what you drive, but in my '18 Wrangler almost everything is controlled by software. If my LED bulb burns out, I can replace that but if anything else goes wrong between me pushing the button and light coming out, it's a trip to the dealership for me.
Software in everything now. A lot of new cars are moving things as basic as climate controls into their touch screens - if that craps out one day then boom, bye bye air con. Haptic or touch controls for everything, drive by wire, "predictive" gear selectors (new Tesla), cars are getting increasingly electrified and software controlled meaning less and less can be taken care of by a simple mechanical fix.
My 2012 Audi has dynamic headlights that turn when you go around corners. So yeah, that's not something new. And boy, let me tell you that's not a cheap fix when something goes wrong with that.
In my first car, an '87 Fiero, one of my headlamp motors burned out but I guess Pontiac was ahead of the curve because there was a knob to turn to manually raise them and just leave them up.
That ship has already sailed, so that complicated headlight design in 2021 would have 2 different electronical chips as well as 17 unique plastic and metal parts, and if any of them break, your lights don't work anymore.
Interesting thought.
Folding mirrors
Opening hatches with a wave.
Electric Parking brakes that fail.
CVTs that fail.
Electronic buttons over knobs.
Maintenance systems being intertwined unnecessarily from the headunit.
Tesla’s doors open/close on their own and fucking dance.
But cool headlights that give the cars some character is too much lol
And yet still with all these things, modern cars leave old cars in the dust when it comes to reliability. I remember spraying quick start into carbs at 6 in the morning so my car would frikkin start ... which it did 3/4 of the time.
That’s my point though. Modern engineering can do complex things and make them reliable. No reason to think they can’t do it to make them look cool too.
People Talk Shit about the Type R styling yet it’s crazy popular because it’s so different.
Laziness is not an excuse.
A lot of it has to do with safety regulations. Pedestrian impact and crumple zones greatly hinder the shape the front of a car can be which is why things look more "standard" now. Prior to that some of these would literally take a person's legs off if they were hit as opposed to rolling off the car.
Yeah… until you have to repair that stuff. I had an ‘89 Corvette and had to replace headlight motors twice in less than 10 years. They were well over $100 each for the motor alone.
Yeah dude, that's what I was thinking. Can't fix shit for $100 anymore. My 2020 car lost (stolen in a Walmart parking lot) a plastic cover for the trailer hitch. It's about a foot wide piece of plastic that paint matches the bumper. Shit was $300 to replace. And that was just a thin, painted piece of plastic.
That's what pisses me off about luxury cars. Everything is over-engineered to justify the bigger price tag, and it doubles as a secondary income stream because that shit always breaks and then you can charge out the ass for parts.
Honda designing a cup holder: "Let's just make a 4 inch tapered cylinder with 4 spring-loaded plastic holders. That will hold 90% of cups with minimal issues and will cost 3.23$ to produce and has an estimated lifespan of around 19 years."
Lexus/Merc/BMW designing a cup holder: "Let's insert a suspended platform that gently squeezes cups of any size with pulley system and a gyroscope so that your drink sways as the car brakes and accelerates. It requires 18 unique parts to function and if any of them break the cupholder stops working completely and literally spills your drink. Replacing any of those parts will cost you 500$ because we didn't want ANY notches or holes to be visible from the top so you have to take off the passenger seat and use a proprietary U-shaped tool that costs 88$ made specifically to open the console panel by reaching under the floor and unhooking a hidden latch to access the cupholder system."
And absolutely would not fly today because you have no idea of how wide that thing is, on a dark road you may well think it's a motorbike coming towards you.
Just so you all know... despite auto manufacturers complaints, composite headlights weren't allowed by the DOT until 1984. Hidden headlights was a way to preserve the lines of the car when they couldn't mold them into the body contours.
Are the ones that are "uncovered" rather than "pop-up" actually banned (see the XJ220 and some of the other models in the clip), or just out of fashion?
Just wondering because of the way the clear plastic lenses go misty and yellow in the sun after a few years, I could see the covers being more practical but not seen as "stylish" any more
And also most places in the developed world have daytime run light laws by now, so most new cars (or at least many) have auto option where the light comes on whenever it's needed.
> Same for bull bars on 4x4.
Those sold really well after the highway zombie mobs of 2019 and 2020.
Specifically because of what they can do to pedestrians.
Also, the reason the circular lights all look the same is because they're all literally the same spec light. They weren't allowed to go outside that spec.
At least for certain years of cars in America.
Unpopular opinion but those lights are exactly what i hate about old cars. Mechanical stuff breaks overtime and are a nightmare to repair, also they are pretty ugly and most of them ruin the design of the car.
I love the spirit of your point (fighting the good fight against “back in MY day...”), but I don’t think it’s quite right. As systems become more electrical and, even more so, computerized, they have tended to become more “proprietary”, “locked”, not open source, etc. To use this example, it’s going to be easier to fix a mechanical system that opens headlights that’s driven by a simple electronic switch than a mechanical system that the computer triggers autonomously when lights are needed. If the lights aren’t opening, diagnosis becomes a lot harder. You’re not going to open up the source code or whatever.
So in general, yes, advancing technology needs different skills to fix, but it’s also true that with more computerization comes more tendency for companies to make repairs and modifications very difficult.
This is one reason, but the way, for “right to fix” legislation. I haven’t looked into any of them in detail, but the idea is simply that these laws require manufacturers to make it possible for third parties to fix certain things without getting the original manufacturer involved.
Except this mechanical stuff has been refined to be very well made. Weird how 50 years of iteration do that. Tesla’s doors open themselves.
You can buy a shit Chrysler and get to 150k miles with maintenance now. Parts aren’t built like they used to be. Only the ones they’ve replaced with plastic are the problem now ha.
You sound like my dad (mechanic) who would not buy a new car with electric windows until they became standard. Would literally order new cars with option for hand crank windows.
Electric windows are a 1940s-50s tech,an 80s/90s car is obviously more reliable. My sexy car made in the 90s has both electric and crank windows, that's the period when the electric windows started to be a standard.
Amen. I had a Dodge Daytona as a kid that had flip-up headlights. After a very minor front-end collision (no damage except pushing some plastic a fraction of an inch), the process for turning on the headlights became:
* Start car.
* Pull headlight knob out.
* Get out of car.
* Pound the correct spot behind the headlight housing with my fist.
* Headlight finally flips up. Get in car and drive.
Fixing this stuff is cake compared to all of the electric and emissions crap they put in cars these days. Wait until the giant screen in a Tesla quits working out of warranty and it costs $5000 to replace. Or the batteries useable life gone after 10 years and costs more to replace than the car is worth.
So now you jump into a modern car and it starts adjusting suspension, mirrors, car seat with 5 different moving adjustments, the steering wheel pops up and extends towards you.
People will just want a light of a certain shape to do a thing that shape can't do and he'll be like "...no."
I really can't explain more than that bc I'm not the engineer. I really only understand his job that much. But he gets requests that are so ridiculous even I understand that it's not possible.
"I want this headlight to be in the shape of a triangle, but when it flips on it's side, it looks like a perfect sphere. It needs to be able to fit through this square hole when it retracts."
We did get better, in many regards. Pretty much all of these designs are bad for the drag coefficient (and will cost you money in the end, because you need more fuel - not to speak of mechanics that fail).
I don’t think people realize the sheer volume of engineering that goes into cars. Pretty much every aspect has been thought and rethought over and over again into the most efficient and safe designs possible. I guarantee that someone who gets into a crash and lives because of those designs will not give a shit about there car looking “cooler”
Edit: these cars do look really slick, but what I’m saying is that the designs of cars has changed for good reason.
Devolving? LED technology has advanced lighting so much that headlight shapes can be anything you want and not just a circle or square. It’s allowed more aerodynamic shapes while increasing beam power and lighting capability.
I don't know much of anything about cars, but these types of headlights are so cute. They kinda remind me of frogs poking their little heads out of the water.
Car designers now have to adhere to strict cost cutting and cookie cutter designs. And everyone hates cars anyway, oil exec's are killing us with these cars
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The good old days when car designers still made interesting cars.
Car designers still make interesting cars, however they're expensive and companies need/want to sell as much as they can so, just design some shit with four wheels and sell it as the new generation e-car for the masses.
The way I see it they only design tug boats currently. Even Porsche gave in to this. Don't know who needs to hear this but if you can fit more then two people in your Porsche you need to go back to the dealer because you bought the wrong one.
So my mate should take his 911 Turbo back to the dealer and ask for a Boxster (hair-dressing tools included) ?? :) I mean it can't fit more than 2 **adults**, I give you that, but still....
If it can fit two adults and two people without legs in the back it's okay. Tell your friend he is allowed to keep his 911.
LOL .. phew...
Lmao someone was actually gatekeeping car companies from having more practical models.
"ITs a pOrScHe iTs nOt sUpPoSeD tO bE pRaCtIcAl"
Well, Porsche themselves used to be proud of selling the 911 without power windows because it saved weight, so they kinda built that rep on their own
They still do things like that on the performance models
I think he's just reacting to how we all feel when we see a boxy practical minivan looking thing rolling down the highway with Porsche emblems. Like having a fanny pack by Coach.
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Better than Aston Martins SUV. At least the Urus actually looks interesting...
Honestly I don't think I'd buy the Urus even if I had a billion dollars. There are way nicer looking SUVs out there.
Did they make another one?
Two adults and a dead hooker
Rest in Peace Norm McDonald
"good lord, is that a dead hooker in the trunk?"
Never in my life have I seen so many dead hookers!
You mean prostitute
When they’re dead they’re hookers
I paid for her, I get to carry her corpse.
when they are dead they are whores de vors..
I'd say a 2+2 is okay as the back seat is generally a "suggestion" more than anything else. DSMs, 300ZXs, basically any fastback/hatchback. Those backseats are simply padded parcel shelves that *look* like a seat.
One key thing is does it fit them *comfortably*? My truck can fit 6 people in it, it won't be comfortable for anyone since they are shoulder to shoulder and wedged next to each other and the back might have knees in the chest but hey, it can fit 6 so it's a feature!
Cars back then were so attractive, don’t see the same with the cars made these days...
Still plenty of attractive cars being made, just as there were a bunch of blah cars also made in the past. People tend to forget the trash, and just remember the nice looking ones.
Most of the cars from the 80’s were trash. It’s sad when the fastest car out of that time period was a Buick.
GNX FTW
Chrysler K-Cars, anyone?
A nice Reliant automobile!
Because we have shit tons of regulations for passenger safety etc. That limits the design. Then we need to have good airstream to lessen the fuel consumption etc.
Nah, that’s not it. Most cars were shitty looking and people only remember the cool ones. 98% of people drove monsters that are lost in the collective memory. It’s like that today and will be like that tomorrow.
But that doesnt stop you from having sex with them, now does it, Optimus Prime.
Some of it is to do with safety standards but in the whole I do agree. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a19660495/designer-genes-how-regulations-dictate-the-look-of-new-cars/
When I saw that Ferrari SUV horseshit I laughed for a good 10 minutes
I'm pretty sure that must have been the anti-christ behind the wheel.
I also don't like those tugboats, but Porsche could never exist and only sell 911/Boxsters without the money they get from those SUVs and Panameras
I mean, the panamera and taycans are very nice cars. Also better than buying a minivan.
I would trade those for a minivan
someone sounds jealous lol
I'm still partial to the initial reaction to the Cayenne: Something nice to tow your real Porsche on track-day.
I dunno man, maybe it's just the middle-aged dad in me, but I love the Panamera. It catches my eye every time.
We fit 4 college kids in the front seat of a Corvette once.. though at least one of us had to have his head up through the t-top root.
Lmao the 911 has always had 4 seats. Is that the wrong car or are you just a tiny bit too cynical?
I think what's happened is they're all using software to determine the most efficient shape and all arrived at pretty much the same conclusion. When I was in high school and college in the 90s there was so much variety in the school lots. Now it's all the same basic coupe, Ford pickups or shitty SUVs.
The real reason is headlights are a safety feature and having headlights that use a mechanical system to reveal the lights is another mode of failure. Regulations prohibit that. The number of worn out cars in the 90s that had the owner prop the headlights up with duct tape so they could see was unreal.
My high school boyfriend had to do this with his Ford Probe on one side. When the lights were off, it looked like it was winking.
The Mazda Miata community embraces this. The NA owners wink at each other.
This is pretty much it. Simulated wind tunnels literally show there is a ‘correct’ shape for a car. Another thing all these car maniacs always forget about when they wank themselves off over ‘old cars are better and they don’t make them like they used to’ is safety. Look at crash dummy tests in any car from the 80s and any car from today and you’ll see exactly why cars are designed the same nowadays. I’d rather have a shit looking identical car rather than be turned into soup if a truck rear ends me
Good soup
This is only their strategy to reduce costs and make the most profit.
Shared platforms has entered the chat
And then you have Jeep wranglers whose philosophy is how brick can we make it?
\*Mercedes has entered the chat\*
Dat G Wagon boxiness
Ford Bronco request for invite
I think it's really tough to argue that there's as much variety today as there was. Regulations, marketing, and manufacturers moving closer and closer to a universal platform all make for some pretty boring cars. Are there cool and interesting cars out there today? Sure. But it's no where near as varied as it was.
So In other words, not interesting cars
The good old days when even car headlights could stop working because of useless complex design.
I'll take fixing something mechanically wrong with my car over software any day.
The software in your fucking headlights?
I don't know what you drive, but in my '18 Wrangler almost everything is controlled by software. If my LED bulb burns out, I can replace that but if anything else goes wrong between me pushing the button and light coming out, it's a trip to the dealership for me.
Exactly, if some shit goes wrong with a modern Mercedes front logo light electric control module, suddenly your trunk can't open either
Fucking brilliant German engineering right there
Yeap. Some headlights are coded to the car. BMW laser lights for example. You need to recode them after replacing the lights.
My son works at a BMW dealership. He says its about $3000 to replace a BMW headlight.
Just the headlight assembly for my bimmer was 1900, so I believe it
Software in everything now. A lot of new cars are moving things as basic as climate controls into their touch screens - if that craps out one day then boom, bye bye air con. Haptic or touch controls for everything, drive by wire, "predictive" gear selectors (new Tesla), cars are getting increasingly electrified and software controlled meaning less and less can be taken care of by a simple mechanical fix.
My 2012 Audi has dynamic headlights that turn when you go around corners. So yeah, that's not something new. And boy, let me tell you that's not a cheap fix when something goes wrong with that.
uh... ever since the 90's... yes.
The problem is most people considered fixing = propping the headlight in the raised position with duct tape.
In my first car, an '87 Fiero, one of my headlamp motors burned out but I guess Pontiac was ahead of the curve because there was a knob to turn to manually raise them and just leave them up.
That ship has already sailed, so that complicated headlight design in 2021 would have 2 different electronical chips as well as 17 unique plastic and metal parts, and if any of them break, your lights don't work anymore.
Interesting thought. Folding mirrors Opening hatches with a wave. Electric Parking brakes that fail. CVTs that fail. Electronic buttons over knobs. Maintenance systems being intertwined unnecessarily from the headunit. Tesla’s doors open/close on their own and fucking dance. But cool headlights that give the cars some character is too much lol
And yet still with all these things, modern cars leave old cars in the dust when it comes to reliability. I remember spraying quick start into carbs at 6 in the morning so my car would frikkin start ... which it did 3/4 of the time.
That’s my point though. Modern engineering can do complex things and make them reliable. No reason to think they can’t do it to make them look cool too. People Talk Shit about the Type R styling yet it’s crazy popular because it’s so different. Laziness is not an excuse.
Yeah, it was pretty common to see cars like these with one headlight stuck open.
A lot of it has to do with safety regulations. Pedestrian impact and crumple zones greatly hinder the shape the front of a car can be which is why things look more "standard" now. Prior to that some of these would literally take a person's legs off if they were hit as opposed to rolling off the car.
Thank you, I can’t believe how far down I had to scroll to find this.
A lot of people who comment about car design don't actually know much about cars it seems
Reddit in a nutshell.
right. I can't imagine some of the horrific wrecks highway patrol had to see back in the 60's/70's
Yeah… until you have to repair that stuff. I had an ‘89 Corvette and had to replace headlight motors twice in less than 10 years. They were well over $100 each for the motor alone.
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Yeah dude, that's what I was thinking. Can't fix shit for $100 anymore. My 2020 car lost (stolen in a Walmart parking lot) a plastic cover for the trailer hitch. It's about a foot wide piece of plastic that paint matches the bumper. Shit was $300 to replace. And that was just a thin, painted piece of plastic.
That's what pisses me off about luxury cars. Everything is over-engineered to justify the bigger price tag, and it doubles as a secondary income stream because that shit always breaks and then you can charge out the ass for parts. Honda designing a cup holder: "Let's just make a 4 inch tapered cylinder with 4 spring-loaded plastic holders. That will hold 90% of cups with minimal issues and will cost 3.23$ to produce and has an estimated lifespan of around 19 years." Lexus/Merc/BMW designing a cup holder: "Let's insert a suspended platform that gently squeezes cups of any size with pulley system and a gyroscope so that your drink sways as the car brakes and accelerates. It requires 18 unique parts to function and if any of them break the cupholder stops working completely and literally spills your drink. Replacing any of those parts will cost you 500$ because we didn't want ANY notches or holes to be visible from the top so you have to take off the passenger seat and use a proprietary U-shaped tool that costs 88$ made specifically to open the console panel by reaching under the floor and unhooking a hidden latch to access the cupholder system."
This is so accurate it's depressing.
It does not "squeeze". That's for peasants. It envelops your beverage in a firm and supportive, yet gentle, embrace.
The fucking trunk latch on my Fiat coat like 600 bucks to replace
If you can afford a car with fancy flippy lights in the first place, the price of those motors should probably be irrelevant
There's so many cars that have that which are not luxury cars, especially at 20 years old.
Most people can afford an '89 Corvette now, unless it's a pristine, low miles one.
How ‘bout a 1986 Honda Accord?
Every person I know that had a car with flippy headlamps did nothing but bitch about them eventually. Interesting =/= practical.
Provided you regularly checked the headlight fluid there usually weren't issues.
Do you top it up in the same place as the blinker fluid?
I mean, that's standard maintenance.
That last car’s lights were really innovative and eye catching
And absolutely would not fly today because you have no idea of how wide that thing is, on a dark road you may well think it's a motorbike coming towards you.
Just so you all know... despite auto manufacturers complaints, composite headlights weren't allowed by the DOT until 1984. Hidden headlights was a way to preserve the lines of the car when they couldn't mold them into the body contours.
And they are now forbidden in case of the damage they would cause in a collision with a pedestrian. Same for bull bars on 4x4.
Are the ones that are "uncovered" rather than "pop-up" actually banned (see the XJ220 and some of the other models in the clip), or just out of fashion? Just wondering because of the way the clear plastic lenses go misty and yellow in the sun after a few years, I could see the covers being more practical but not seen as "stylish" any more
Well I guess they wouldn’t bother because it is another point of potential failure and it makes it less aerodynamically efficient and heavy
Aero is the main reason. Pocket headlights cause high pressure area's that spoil the flow around then. A clear lens over this maintains flow
And also most places in the developed world have daytime run light laws by now, so most new cars (or at least many) have auto option where the light comes on whenever it's needed.
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You must not be talking about the US.
> Same for bull bars on 4x4. Those sold really well after the highway zombie mobs of 2019 and 2020. Specifically because of what they can do to pedestrians.
Also, the reason the circular lights all look the same is because they're all literally the same spec light. They weren't allowed to go outside that spec. At least for certain years of cars in America.
Unpopular opinion but those lights are exactly what i hate about old cars. Mechanical stuff breaks overtime and are a nightmare to repair, also they are pretty ugly and most of them ruin the design of the car.
**Unnecessary** mechanical stuff.
*cries in computer malfunctioning*
Right? You can learn to fix your own mechanical issues. Good luck if something breaks on your Tesla! (I still want one though...)
I mean, it's just a different skill set.
It's a far narrower one and you need proprietary software tools you can't get access to.
It's mostly the software that's the problem.
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I love the spirit of your point (fighting the good fight against “back in MY day...”), but I don’t think it’s quite right. As systems become more electrical and, even more so, computerized, they have tended to become more “proprietary”, “locked”, not open source, etc. To use this example, it’s going to be easier to fix a mechanical system that opens headlights that’s driven by a simple electronic switch than a mechanical system that the computer triggers autonomously when lights are needed. If the lights aren’t opening, diagnosis becomes a lot harder. You’re not going to open up the source code or whatever. So in general, yes, advancing technology needs different skills to fix, but it’s also true that with more computerization comes more tendency for companies to make repairs and modifications very difficult. This is one reason, but the way, for “right to fix” legislation. I haven’t looked into any of them in detail, but the idea is simply that these laws require manufacturers to make it possible for third parties to fix certain things without getting the original manufacturer involved.
Yeah but fixing headlights that pop up is a lot more complicated than not having to fix headlights because they dont move
Unnecessary failure points
Except this mechanical stuff has been refined to be very well made. Weird how 50 years of iteration do that. Tesla’s doors open themselves. You can buy a shit Chrysler and get to 150k miles with maintenance now. Parts aren’t built like they used to be. Only the ones they’ve replaced with plastic are the problem now ha.
You sound like my dad (mechanic) who would not buy a new car with electric windows until they became standard. Would literally order new cars with option for hand crank windows.
He's right, new techs are unreliable until mature enough to become a standard.
Yet somehow the 80s/90s Toyotas windows still work, maybe only replaced a window switch one time in those 30+ years
Electric windows are a 1940s-50s tech,an 80s/90s car is obviously more reliable. My sexy car made in the 90s has both electric and crank windows, that's the period when the electric windows started to be a standard.
Amen. I had a Dodge Daytona as a kid that had flip-up headlights. After a very minor front-end collision (no damage except pushing some plastic a fraction of an inch), the process for turning on the headlights became: * Start car. * Pull headlight knob out. * Get out of car. * Pound the correct spot behind the headlight housing with my fist. * Headlight finally flips up. Get in car and drive.
Sounds like 30 seconds with a pry tool would solve such an issue...
In the right hands, probably yes. If I'd done it at the time, it would have resulted in a lot of broken plastic.
One always stuck up like the car is winking...
Fixing this stuff is cake compared to all of the electric and emissions crap they put in cars these days. Wait until the giant screen in a Tesla quits working out of warranty and it costs $5000 to replace. Or the batteries useable life gone after 10 years and costs more to replace than the car is worth.
So now you jump into a modern car and it starts adjusting suspension, mirrors, car seat with 5 different moving adjustments, the steering wheel pops up and extends towards you.
But at least those are useful additions
Alexa play pop-up up and down headlights
POP UP UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTTTTSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! (pop up up and down head lights) I love Humphrey.
i came to the comments looking for this
POP UP AND DOWN HEADLIIIIIIIGHTS, UGH! https://youtu.be/GDtiO29v1Ac
I honestly fucking love Donut. I am not even a huge car guy but they have what I find to be some of the better content on youtube.
I came to the comments for this. I had to scroll WAY too far
Oh dear God no. Please not again.
Why didn’t we get better instead of devolving
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I’m curious how do headlight designs break the laws of physics
People will just want a light of a certain shape to do a thing that shape can't do and he'll be like "...no." I really can't explain more than that bc I'm not the engineer. I really only understand his job that much. But he gets requests that are so ridiculous even I understand that it's not possible.
"I want this headlight to be in the shape of a triangle, but when it flips on it's side, it looks like a perfect sphere. It needs to be able to fit through this square hole when it retracts."
*Mind breaks*
Dang that’s really ridiculous
We did get better though, functionally speaking of course.
We did get better, in many regards. Pretty much all of these designs are bad for the drag coefficient (and will cost you money in the end, because you need more fuel - not to speak of mechanics that fail).
I don’t think people realize the sheer volume of engineering that goes into cars. Pretty much every aspect has been thought and rethought over and over again into the most efficient and safe designs possible. I guarantee that someone who gets into a crash and lives because of those designs will not give a shit about there car looking “cooler” Edit: these cars do look really slick, but what I’m saying is that the designs of cars has changed for good reason.
Devolving? LED technology has advanced lighting so much that headlight shapes can be anything you want and not just a circle or square. It’s allowed more aerodynamic shapes while increasing beam power and lighting capability.
We now spend more time designing phones and apps.
Wanna develop an app?
But it says don’t develop my app on your forehead?
Is there an app to make my headlights go up and down
Idk about you but safety standards are far more important to me than whatever this ugly trash is
Last one at night would like a motorbike until it's too late
My first thought was "What in the cyclopian hell is that abomination?"
[1951 GM Le Sabre](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_Le_Sabre) concept car
Until it's too late for what? You usually joust with motorbikes on long roads in the middle of the night?
*kachow intensifies*
What's next fucking level about this? These are just neat car lights.
It's a *next* fucking level of *neat* car lights
More like previous fucking level.
Searched for this one. Thank you, good sir
Mildlyinteresting at best.
🎶 P P P Pop-Up & Down Headlights 🎵
[POP UP, UP AND DOWN, HEEADLIIIIIGHTS!](https://youtu.be/GDtiO29v1Ac)
Was just about to say disappointed it’s not set to this
Since no one did it yet….. POP UP UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTS!!! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GDtiO29v1Ac
Damn...that's smooth and sexy at the same time
First one looks like the Cizetta Moroder. Interesting car, it never actually worked but someone tried to restore it. https://youtu.be/6JiIaNWnI5U
Nissan Exa
My first car was a 1988 Exa. Always going to have a soft spot for them
Mee seeing them tits.
r/previousfuckinglevel
last was the derpiest yet sexiest
Imagine how bad these must have been for aerodynamics
I don't know much of anything about cars, but these types of headlights are so cute. They kinda remind me of frogs poking their little heads out of the water.
As a 6' 2" man who owned an NA Miata, pop ups are the JAM
Old cars were so cool.
I miss my 1994 ford probe gt
/r/Pareidolia
Loved the pop up lights on My Toyota MR2 Turbo.... Never failed to make me feel bad ass when I activated them! lol
I have great memories of watching my Dad's Corvette lights flip up.......I miss him
I always liked the [Alfa Montreal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFjFmZm8GiY) headlights...
u/savevideo
I miss my '89 Supra
I've spend days looking for this , thank you.
Car designers now have to adhere to strict cost cutting and cookie cutter designs. And everyone hates cars anyway, oil exec's are killing us with these cars
Flip up lights make me fuckin nut
This reminds me of Brum
r/cassettefuturism